/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why is this board so against the numbers? The numbers mean everything to the talents themselves. You will not be motivated to stream, to act peppy and entertaining, if you're only being watched by a hundred people, none of which sub or donate. 95% of the reason why someone graduates is because of a lack of traction.

[Anonymous No.]

1. This board likes numbers when it's their oshi

2. This board likes numbers when they can use it to shit on other people's oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>5080690
if you're going to post about numbers, at least use a talent that likes numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

have you looked at the chumbuds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5080690
Chuubas are better when they make decisions based on what they want to do rather than what get them the most numbers. Simple as

[Anonymous No.]

numberfags care more about numbers than watching the streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>5080690
Numbers matter, but the numbers that actually matter aren't visible to you as the audience.

[Anonymous No.]

The numbers themselves are fine.
When a vtuber grows in numbers it's a cause to be celebrated, and should they fall to be mourned.
The problem is when numbers are used as a way to pit vtubers against each other. It becomes not portrayed as a fight to stand out against the YouTube algorithm, which it actually is, but rather a fight to the top of the vtuber hierarchy at which Gawr Gura currently sits. That usage of numbers is evil.

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>>5080817
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[Anonymous No.]

>The numbers mean everything
wrong.

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>>5080690

numbets give guidance and objectivity. some people think you can not or should not put ratings on people performance or entertainment value. philosophically they are correct. practically they are. does not matter if you care or acknowledge it. its still there. unfortunately does not lend their talents the support they need to make something of this. its basicly tbrowong an abbacus at a girls head and expecting she does something useful with it.

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>>5080943
If there was some way to quantify "the best" vtuber, and that person got six concurrent viewers and made zero money for their trouble, it wouldn't matter that they're "the best". They would give up because it isn't worth the time and effort.

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>>5080787
This.

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>>5080690
We don't hate numbers we hate chuubas who obsess over numbers. That said I don't think any chuubas are all that obsessed over numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

numberfagging is only good for highlighting goals reached. What most do here is trying to use it as a measure of success or failure. If you go for subs, then they will turn it to SCs, if it turns to SCs then it turns to live viewers and so on and so forth.

>>5082765
Uh, Pekora. She actually mentioned losing 3,000 subs over taking a break. Pekorafags are the biggest numberfags on this board. Not sure how Gura keeps getting brought up in this when she's the most humble one of them all. She probably wouldn't even celebrate the 2 million sub milestone if it wasn't for Kiara urging her. If she wanted to exploit hitting sub goals for SCs, she would've do so sooner going forward, or done late freetalk celebrations to collect them during an available free period like some of ID and JP do. If someone is bringing up Gura, it's usually someone else punching her down, and not the other way around.

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>>5083159
What Gura wants and what Chumbuds do are two separate things entirely. Never has a numberfag numberfagged harder than a Chumbud numberfag.

[Anonymous No.]

It's not the numbers that's the problem. It's the braindead understanding of the numbers a lot of anons exhibit that's the problem.