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What is /asp/?
A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

RESOURCES:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P

Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet

Previous thread: >>4937030

>> No.5075625

After seeing the designs from the recent big way of indie agencies, I'm kinda glad I decided to go for a very simple design. They're starting to all look really over-done and generic, or wildly outlandish.

>> No.5075709

>>5075625
have to be at least a little bit eye catching

>> No.5075732

>>5075709
I think I look kinda hot. If that helps.

>> No.5076438

https://booth.pm/en/items/1830196
Just discovered this tool. Some of the props are pretty fun!

>> No.5076703

>>5076438
Cute! Nice find!

>> No.5076786

>>5045333
>don't stream JPRGs if that's what you're asking
Nah, not a JRPG, I was thinking of Castlevania Rondo of Blood
>>5045834
Would Apex be good for that?

>> No.5076837

>>5076786
>Castlevania Rondo of Blood
Pretty niche, but might work. I've seen a few retro and retro-like games get some good traction.
>Apex
Avoid Apex as an indie vtuber. It's not worth it.

>> No.5077725
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>>5075625
>>5075709
How "normal" can a design look? Because I just saw Han Macchia post her reference picture, and it's very... basic? https://twitter.com/Hana_Macchia/status/1307863391772397568/photo/1

>> No.5077775

are there any good voice changers that will make me sound less like toad

>> No.5078119

>>5076837
Any other suggestions instead of Apex?

>> No.5079794

>>5077775
you need voice training, not voice changers.
that or your just not confident in yourself and hear yourself that way when your not.

>> No.5080118

I’m becoming vtuber again and already remembering why it’s hard, and why I stopped it, messaged artist but they didn’t reply in 4 days In middle of a convo, do I look for a new one by now? Seems like they just don’t wanna do it
But what if they just busy?
Social stuff is hard

>> No.5081605

>>5080118
4 days of not responding isn't much in the artist world, some of those artists don't respond when you already commission'd them

>> No.5083531

>>5080118
I'd recommend you start looking around but for a new artist but still wait a bit to send out a new message

>> No.5087175

I seriously have no idea how this Twitter thing works. It just seems so fucking shallow and meaningless tweeting things out to the void.

>> No.5087606

>>5087175
if you have fans its nice to give them opportunities to interact with you, thats one way of keeping them watching

>> No.5087975

>>5087606
>if you have fans
Well there's a problem there already.

>> No.5090506

I realised I don't really have a big personality and can't play a character for shit... I will just cheer you guys from the sidelines

>> No.5090570

>>5090506
You can just "be yourself" and be a streamer without playing a character. This is like 80% of the reason why /asp/ recommends against kayfabe, not only do most viewers who watch give 0 fucks about kayfabe, it's not something most streamers can keep up on their own.

>> No.5092113

Has any1 written a tool for egosearching? A crawler for chans or twitter to save you the time from checking each site?

I am not going to pretend I don't do it. I just want to be more efficient.

>> No.5092237

game recommendations? something platform would be perfect but open to anything.

>> No.5094576

PNGtuber question: how do I set it up so I can cycle through expressions in obs? Do I make several variants of the thing from the one YouTube vid, and make it so I can switch them with a hotkey?

>> No.5095434

>>5094576
You can do that veadotube if im not mistaken, there is another pngtuber software on resources pastebin but its in japanase.

>> No.5096199
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5096199

I need a badass pro rigger that knows how to physics, anybody know a guy?

>> No.5097108

>>5092113
>open search engine
>" your vtuber name "
>only get exact matches

>> No.5098377

Oh god I keep checking my twitter and mailbox every few hours for updates from my artist and to see if I get an email from Iron Vertex. I know there's not much chance but I still hold out hope.

>> No.5101663

What are you even looking for when it comes to Iron Vertex tier rigging? For the most part, it seems like a decent rigging can be had for just $1k.

>> No.5102297

>>5101663
IV is more than decent rigging, but also for me another major aspect is quality control. The stuff's looked over by multiple people so "good enough" doesn't really get passed QA.

>> No.5102421

What would be the dividing line between simple design and basic / generic design? I was thinking of making a simple but at the same time memorable (easy to remember) model, does anyone have examples? one design i can think of is ENA

>> No.5102465

>>5102297
Yeah, but like, what are people actually looking at? Like, good movement on the hair, good perspectives when turning the head and doing 45* angles. I'm seeing rigging that's pretty solid for $800-$1k that any indie can get started with.

Plus, unless you're a professional VA and have connections that Iron Vertex can exploit themselves, they're not even looking at your models. IV's recent selections have made it clear they know their worth and are clout chasing now to get bigger names for more expensive rig work.

>> No.5102475

Niggas ITT still think spending 2k+ on a model is a ticket to success

>> No.5102589

>>5102465
>I'm seeing rigging that's pretty solid for $800-$1k that any indie can get started with.
This is true, I'd never argue otherwise. However, I have the money to comfortably be able to pay for IV rigging with no impact to my lifestyle, so that I can basically have a "one and done" rigged model instead of having to upgrade down the line. I'm fussy when it comes to details as well, which is part of it.

>>5102475
Absolutely not, and never will be. But if you can, why not.

>> No.5102931

>>5102421
I'd say the dividing line is your character and accessories. There are quite a few vtubers with super simple looking models but are very successful.

>> No.5103655

Speaking of rigging, it's kinda annoying to see all these riggers showcasing their Live2D rigging works and only doing the bare minimum.
>no blinking, winking
>no mouth shapes
>very limited demonstration of movement
>half of the demo is just preset animations and eye sparkles

>> No.5103907

just finished a stream, didn't look at the numbers and the summary arrived with 25 viewers! that's quite a bit more than usual:D

>> No.5103924

>>5103907
Sounds good anon, keep it goin.

>> No.5104372

how many viewers do you guys have on average?

>> No.5105870

>>5104372
3, but I've only had 3 streams so far.

>> No.5105956

>>5104372
like 1-2 with spikes to 5-6 when I get raided

>> No.5106262

>>5104372
0.3 average, 5 unique on my last stream. I'm playing a mega-debuff game and not shilling anywhere though, so I'd bet they're almost all bots.
(The reason I'm not shilling this anywhere is because I still suck eggs at streaming and am trying to practice. The reason I'm playing the mega-debuff game is because it's fun)

>> No.5106442

>>5104372
7 currently but certain streams tend to be on the higher end while others tend to be on the lower

>> No.5106603

>>5105956
Same

>> No.5106825

>>5102589
Unless you never plan to add new accessories or getting new costumes in the future, it's never a "one and done".

Does IV have priority slots for returning customers or grant you a path for continued business? Because if not that could be an argument against going with them as getting further work is not going to be easy.

>> No.5106985

>>5106825
I mean one and done more so in the idea of the core design. I know exactly what I want from the main design and how I want it to look, and the artist is skilled enough to pull that off, so I also want to do the artwork justice No need to re-do/fix up an existing thing if I pay for quality off the bat. New costumes and whatnot are a separate issue that I doubt will be a concern in the foreseeable future. I do think they have extra slots for existing customers, as theres a bunch of people that seem to get a bunch of special models from them constantly, but can't say for certain.

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>>5074534
Want to watch a man slowly lose faith in himself as he attempts to write a TTRPG Combat System from scratch?

https://www.twitch.tv/notepadanon

People always say I should shill more, so here is me shilling.

>> No.5110214

>>5107958
shill in /wvt/ this thread is more for tech support and advice

>> No.5110817

Made a new background Start/End screen for my stream even if it's just a flat image
feels a lot more "professional"

>> No.5112738
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5112738

Is there any market for old retro games? not as in the SNES or NES era but before then like text based adventures?
seems like a lot of people on twitch wouldn't have the patience or imagination to watch that but the people who do like it would love someone else to pick it up

>> No.5112962

What do you all think of raiding outside the vtuber community? I saw tiger raiding regular ol fighting game people and I thought it was a smart way of getting new eyes on your content.

>> No.5112971

>>5112738
I imagine that if you have the charisma to pull off a dramatized performance, it might be possible to breathe plenty of life into old text-based adventure games, and keep the audience amused.

>> No.5113026

>>5112962
It's fine. Vtubers are still streamers at the end of the day. Might help normalize face-cam streamers raiding vtubers back and the like.

>> No.5113194

I was considering being a babiniku using a persona shadow style of voice.
In your opinion does https://streamable.com/kp7s4s work at all or would it be a horrible idea?

>> No.5113216

>>5112738
Do you mean like Infocom or do you mean like Sierra? For the former you could do like >>5112971 said, though you might not be able to play them blind. As for the latter, there's at least some kind of market for it.

>> No.5113218

>>5112962
follows the same rules as normal raiding but you might want to stick to even smaller channels than you normally would raid to make it seem less like you're a cringe vtuber trying to shill yourself

>> No.5113253

>>5113194
fuck off with your voice filter please

>> No.5113260

>>5113216
most of my experience is with playing old infocom ones but it does seem like it would almost have to be like acting out a tabletop performance to get people to care about Zork 2

>> No.5113275

>>5113194
It's kinda hard to understand with the filter so heavy and seems like it would get old very fast

>> No.5113293

>>5113194
it takes a certain type of person to listen to that and I can 100% guarantee it's like a lot of other gimmicks where you are going to regret it fast and want it taken off asap when your chat can't understand half your words

>> No.5114504

>>5113218
Makes sense. I don't ever raid anyone >10 viewers anyway

>> No.5114553

>>5113194
voice changes are an instant filter for me, it's fucking annoying to listen to

>> No.5114589

>>5114553
Other than the echo/flanger/reverb type ones

>> No.5114653

>>5113194
Do not do filters unless they're for a short joke
putting a heavy echo on your voice when it is related to the game or otherwise is funny and most people don't mind
trying to understand someone with a filter for 2 hours is a no go dog

>> No.5114690

yeah, reverb and echo are only for
>silly moments when it works for a joke
>karaoke
if you have a 2 hour stream with it, fuck you

>> No.5114713

>>5114589
those are fine yeah, anything else is annoying

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