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>> No.50626242

>>50626212
Translate it to non corpo cha-ching cha-ching smol indie company pls andastand please, this sounds important

>> No.50626274

>>50626242
https://note.com/cover_corp/n/n7305a6030de8
post is here, but there's no official translation.

>> No.50626303

>>50626242
New studio, new equipment. Some of the staffs are transitioning and re-learning how to use the new stuffs.

>> No.50626306

>>50626212
Just in time for Haachamas anniversary. Just a coincidence, surely

>> No.50626310

>>50626212
Blah blah blah less 3d stuff, to make a long story short?

>> No.50626319

>>50626242
>>50626212
our 3d is busted because our tools our busted, it'll take a while to fix, don't bitch to the girls about it

>> No.50626327

>>50626303
>>50626319
Okay thanks anons

>> No.50626357

>>50626212
If this delays Gura's birthday, It would explain a hell of a lot, just saying.

>> No.50626387

Holo tech in shambles

>> No.50626399

>>50626306
>>50626357
OK, so that's what it is all about.

>> No.50626404

>>50626357
Yes, 3D being busted for the company affects her streaming. Totally.
Retard.

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>>50626242
too much jism in the circuitry

>> No.50626435

>>50626212
Moving office to the big expensive one was more complicated than they expected.
What a shock said every company ever

>> No.50626481

kek few weeks ago they were boasting about they're new studio now it blows up in their fucking face and what's worse the girls have to face the music and disappoint their fans because of the managements fucking incompetency

>> No.50626502

>>50626481
Small indie company
Please understand

>> No.50626547

>>50626357
already coping i see

>> No.50626612

holoconnect cancelled

>> No.50626630

>have 99999 nigorillion dollars
>um 3d is hard OK

Fucking useless cunts, is convenient it lines up with haachama anniversary tho makes do the big think.

>> No.50626648

>>50626612
It's already been essentially confirmed by multiple girls the concert was recorded months ago.
I don't expect any delays.

>> No.50626651

>>50626612
Proof next thread?

>> No.50626687

>>50626242
They brought a lot of brand new technology iirc they have like 200 mocap cameras and it's very hard to integrate all of it into one system that works perfectly which can lead to audio hiccups like chloes live and other technical problems they would be facing behind the scenes.
Since it's new tech all the staff will need to relearn it and they will have to record multiple practical lives to get all the settings right
TLDR. we are facing a lot of tech issues in the new studio please be patient as we try to fix it.

>> No.50626718

>>50626648
That would make sense for most members but Fauna and Mumei weren't in Japan long enough for that.

>> No.50626746

>>50626687
That actually explains it even better, thanks

>> No.50626753

>>50626687
Wow if only the companies that sold this cutting edge expensive ass near-unique equipment offered to help set it up instead of jap black company having $8/hr intern wagie to make it all work on day one.

>> No.50626755

>>50626481
>Disappoint there fans
Nobody gives a shit choles live had audio fuck ups and nobody noticed, and cover refunded her the full amount, although akis live got postponed it had a high production value when it came and the aniversary one was on time with equally good production.

>> No.50626808

>>50626242
They fucked up both Chloe's and Sora's bday Lives because they're still learning how to with the equipment.
And they's sowwy purease don't dox them, hunt them down and slit their throats for their gross incompetence.
Also don't take it out on the holo; it wasn't their fault cover staff are literally retarded monkeymen 5 years behind fucking Kizuna Ai tech.
The End.

>> No.50626809

>>50626753
>black company
Wonder who’s behind this post.

>> No.50626828

>>50626753
Not to mention cover is understaffed even with 500 or so people but i don't see a reason for Sony to help them out.

>> No.50626847

>>50626755
Aki didn't use the new studio at all.
Her's have been in the making long before cover's studio was open for business.

>> No.50626874

>>50626809
Not a fucking argument retard. Any company that sells this absolute top of the line shit also has free or near free services to hook it up because it would be fucking embarrassing for them and fuck over future sales if it shits out on its first performance. Kill yourself imbecile.

>> No.50626914

>>50626847
She probably did for atleast one live i don't see why Chloes live that was before akis aniversary got recorded in the new studio and akis didn't.

>> No.50626970

>>50626718
Then they will rent a studio for those two to finish their songs. Zero chance it gets delayed, especially if 80% of it is already recorded.

>> No.50626990

>>50626914
Aki's was done before Chloe's. But she delayed it for some post-production stuff.
These things take half a year or more f planning and recording and she wasn't 100% happy with the final result so it was delayed to be rectified.
When the Lives are aired says nothing about when they were recorded unless it's Sora or Asskey who actually live Lives.

>> No.50626994

>>50626212
I hope they get their shit together until September

>> No.50627027

>>50626874
Okay, now provide the proof that this
>>having $8/hr intern wagie to make it all work on day one.
is what happened.
>inb4 “the OP proves it”

>> No.50627060

>>50626755
There talking about having to cancel events and the girls needing to tell their fans themselves individually

>> No.50627066

>>50627027
NTA but they are right. Whether or not Cover took them up on those services is another question.

>> No.50627078

>>50626242
They BROKE THE NEW STUDIO AND ARE SHORT OF STAFF TO RUN IT
tl;dr: THEY ARE FUCKING RETARDS

>> No.50627100

>>50627027
>now provide the proof

The fact that it doesn't fucking work is clear proof that they chose to try and integrate it in house (to save money).

>> No.50627113

>>50626990
I am talking about the aniversary live, that was on time.

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>>50627027
>now provide the proof
>op is not proof
>op is literally cover saying we are fucking retarded and couldn't make it work

>> No.50627187

>>50627113
Still probably mostly recorded some time earlier this year using whatever studio they usually use. She didn't use the new studio.

>> No.50627286

>>50626212
better to have some transparency rather than blaming it on """Covid"""

>> No.50627302

>>50627066
That’s integral to this equation. There is no way of knowing this, but the automatic assumption is the most accusatory.

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50627335

deepl translation
less doomer more "we got way too much shit"

>> No.50627526

>>50627335
Im just thinking of all the kino shit we could end up getting with that fancy ass new studio and hoping beyond hopium that Cover gets their shit together and makes it happen.

>> No.50627551

I wonder if this is what Kiara's "WTF" tweet was about. She's also trying prepare something big.

>> No.50627584

>>50626808
Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention to them, what got fucked up in Chloe's and Sora's Lives?

>> No.50627628

>>50627335
Boilerplate black company bullshit ass covering statement, checks out

>> No.50627726

>>50626612
>nijinig thinking every company are as black as them
Ngmi

>> No.50627751 [DELETED] 

>>50627726
>holobrony pretending their black shit isn't black

>> No.50627811

>>50627628
>BLACKCOMPANYBLACKCOMPANYBLACKCOMPANY
Maybe it’ll be real one day if you keep saying it.

>> No.50627875

>>50627811
>shitcans top talent because chinks cried

wholesome company

>> No.50627919

>>50627751
>>50627875
>refund chloe concert
>give aki 1 free concert
Meanwhile
>organ get 2% merch sale
>organ pay for botting
>being an antis themselves
You guys a runner up behind wactor, congrat

>> No.50627955 [DELETED] 

>>50627919
I don't watch nijishit, keep projecting holobrony

>> No.50627967

>>50627919
Anon, you forgoting zaion termination grudgelist like a ccp.

>> No.50628189

>>50627100
Please understand anon
they need that money for the development of their own streaming service, which definitely isn't going to be a disaster

>> No.50628223

>>50627628
Wowowow
Calm down, nijisister.

>> No.50628418

>>50626212
Holo summer bros... are we in trouble? This won't affect us, right?

>> No.50628579

>>50628418
Depends, can your talents be bothered to stream more than twice a week?

>> No.50628671

>holoearth
Development hell
>metaverse
Doomed to fail
>homos
Kek

They waste so much money on useless thing it's ridiculous.

>> No.50629892

>>50628671
And that huge new studio. Was it really worth it if you lowered your profits significantly because of it since you're going to start seeing some benefits from it in a year or two at best. This doesn't make investors confident this makes them think you are wasting money on useless assets.

>> No.50630209

>>50627584
Audio was trash for one.
Go listen to Sora sound like she's singing out of baby's first streamer mic.

>> No.50630251

Here we see the Nijiniggers in their natural habitat.
Don't disturb them, for they're delicate creatures.

>> No.50630348

>>50628671
yeah they should buy yachts instead stupid ass fagoo

>> No.50630519

>>50627584
in sora live at the start the audio was shit but it got better when she started singing, choles also apparently had audio issues but nobody actually noticed, it was chole herself who told cover to make an announcement regarding it and she also said that they refunded all cost for that live.

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50630642

>>50630348
>whataboutism
Here comes SEAfaggots defending cover incompetence

>> No.50630740

>>50628671
Retarded anon holoearth is the metaverse thing

>> No.50630871

>>50630642
There's no incompetence in buying a huge fucking new studio, the incompetence is in not making it work yet, which I guess part of the blame also falls on the partner companies they mention, since they always help in installing and setting up their equipment

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>>50627335
>>50627526
it is fancy ass new studio, in fact it is TOO FANCY.

literally nobody so far has studio with 100 IR cameras, I wonder why....
because we don't have the software or the hardware that can handle all that data in real time
TL;DR Trying to throw money at problem, failing

>> No.50630954

>>50630642
They really can't help themselves. Dump tons of money into the new studio. Oops no 3D. Can't even have the covid excuse.

>> No.50631003

>>50630887
Anycolor has a studio with 100+ cameras and it's working out great for them.

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50631014

>>50626212
Fine then!

>> No.50631125

>>50631014
>Implying the studio isn't broken because Ame attempted to nigger rig something with duct tape and AMEWAY and broke a bunch of expensive shit in the process.

>> No.50631245

>>50631125
Hey! It is at least in commission and it works. For what it is worth (probably not much) Cover staff was really impressed with her setup.
Kiara will be there soon so we'll see the fruits of its labours again, she already did her birthday herself with Kanauru and that was pretty decent

>> No.50632151

>>50630887
>literally nobody so far has studio with 100 IR cameras
2022.04.21
https://www.moguravr.com/nijisanji-interview-3/
I think it's quite a big deal to have 100 units of "VICON," which should cost several million yen per unit.

Suzuki: I was thinking to myself, "Really? But it is more interesting when you do everything you can with everything you have.
I think it is rare to find a company that performs real-time motion capture and rendering using such a large number of VICONs. The same employees who do motion capture for live events and those who are in charge of delivery in our in-house studio are the same, so I can say that they have an overwhelming amount of experience.

--By the way, is the in-house studio in operation now (the interview was conducted at the end of February)? I thought there was talk that "Niji Sanji's B-Grade Variety (tentative)" could not be recorded.

Suzuki: As for the studio, we had stopped operations since early February, and will resume operations starting with ChroNoiR's live performance ("ChroNoiR Winter Live - the end of the journey -") on February 27. One topic to mention is that we added a 3D studio during the time we stopped operation.

--You said that there are more 3D studios.

Suzuki: We were in a situation where even if we operated 7 days a week, 365 days a year, it still wouldn't be enough, so we added one more optical motion capture studio. It cost us a considerable amount of money, but I think it is necessary both from the viewers' and the livers' point of view, so we want to continue to invest in equipment sparingly, and we also plan to hire more staff for the studio

>> No.50632759

>>50626874
As someone who works in big IT you would think that was the case but I can say differently doesn't happen that way all the time. I don't know how many times I've been left trying to Google my way out of a defect for some product that a single device costs almost 1 million dollars while the manufacturer's support throws up their hands saying "idk we've never this before". Meanwhile on Google there's like 100 cases going back over a year of other users running into the same issue.

Cisco is real good about this. They throw a document at you when you contact support and say configure it the way the document says, and if that doesn't work it's "well it must be a bug, I'll file a defect and get the devs to look at it." After maybe 2 years the devs will finally fix that bug, but introduce 10 new ones in the process. Meanwhile you have basically a 6u paper weight taking up power and space in your DC.

>> No.50633011

>>50632759
>*Definitely
Got to love auto correct

>> No.50633072 [DELETED] 

>>50630519
Chole?

>> No.50633453

>>50633072
Hole in Chloe

>> No.50633904

>>50632151
this is why Anycolor is 70 billion yen ahead of Hololive in profits. Trend setters.

>> No.50634335

>>50626242
Remember how Cover made a huge deal about the Live2D 3.0 update and how much better the new models would look? Well they had so many bugs with the software that they haven't given any updates for 11 months. The 3D studio isn't that going that badly since they admit they are having technical problems.

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>>50626212
Stars need their 3D first incel.

>> No.50634394

>>50631125
Smells of Last Samurai

>> No.50636147

>>50630887
just turn some of them off them, problem solved, and you also have replacements now

>> No.50636424

>>50633904
You're conflating profits with market cap. Two very different things. We're still waiting at least another week for Anycolor's 2023 report.

>> No.50637275

>>50636424
you don't need to wait anycolor already won without a full year

>> No.50637552

>>50626242
You know in Star Trek 5 when they get the brand new Enterprise and it's full of problems that need to be ironed out?

>> No.50637706

>>50626718
Anon, Mumei was in Japan for most of January and Fauna was there even longer. If everyone else had enough time, so did they.

>> No.50637862

>>50637275
This was meant to be a joke but checking up on it it's basically true.

Cover Full Year 2022/23 Financial Results (in millions of JPY)
Revenue 20,451
Gross Profit 9,396
Operating Profit 3,417
Net Profit 2,508

Anycolor 3rd Quarter 2022/23 Financial Results (in millions of JPY)
Revenue 19,407
Gross Profit 8,989
Operating Profit 7,509
Net Profit 5,235

>> No.50638006

>>50637862
Gypping the talents certainly pays the big bucks, I’ll have to admit that.

>> No.50638109

At least they're transparent about it, but you really should have the staff for this place ready as you open

>> No.50638123

>>50637862
Curious on the q3 vs q4 for anycolor and cover since q3 is nijifes and q4 is holofes.

>> No.50638172

>>50638006
I mean even without taking into account what the talents do or don't get paid Anycolor's revenue is basically the same in three quarters. They straight up just sell more stuff than Hololive without whatever revenue sharing models they have.

>> No.50638339

>>50638172
They’ve got more streamers to shill, it would be embarrassing if they didn’t.
>>50638123
An interesting point of data, to be sure, though a moot point regarding cross-company comparisons.

>> No.50638737

>>50629892
You have never invested money. The notice of investment that Cover put out explicitly said that the 3D studio is not expected to see returns for a year or two at best. I know anons on /vt/ aren't acquainted with the concept of "reading shit before you open your mouth", but investors WOULD know this and it would be seen as a reasonable risk when signing off the money.

>> No.50639152

>>50638339
I mean just having more people it doesn't really follow that you will sell more stuff does it? If your fanbase is smaller across all those people combined you'll probably still make less money regardless of how many people you shit out. From the revenue being significantly higher it seems like Anycolor either has a bigger fanbase than Cover or they have richer fans that are willing to spend more money on vtubers.

>> No.50639357

>>50639152
More people means more merchandise opportunities and more potential stars, just from sheer size difference they ought to have more revenue because they have more opportunities for bigger payouts. Why do you think Riku wanting to accelerate became a meme?

>> No.50639821

>>50639357
Yeah I'm not arguing with that point. The point I am making really though is there's only so many people in a fanbase and they all only have so much money between them. To make more revenue you either need to have more fans or extract more money from the fans you do have. So either Anycolor has more fans or fans with more disposable income.

>> No.50643007

>>50639821
>extract more money from the fans you do have
Well, their stats show merch makes them a ton and if you believe the dramafags then you know why.

>> No.50643101

>>50638737
Investors want money NOW not in 2 years. Everything else is seen as a waste. It's the garbage truth. Boomer investors are actually better in that regard. Investors in their 30s and 40s want all the money right now right here.

>> No.50643186

>>50643101
>Get told "You'll get your money in 2 years if you give us money"
>It's not even been 6 months
Anon, most investors in Japan are not in their 30s and 40s.

>> No.50643289

>>50626212
Not Covid?

>> No.50643578

>>50643007
But that is irrelevant to revenue. Revenue is before any costs come out which would include revenue sharing with the talents. If we were talking about profits then yeah that would be a point. But the revenue is just everything they sell without any costs, all the money that comes into the company.

>> No.50646271

>>50643578
Are you retarded?

>> No.50647384

>>50628671
>>50643186
>>50643101
>>50638737
The attitude of Japanese companies towards dividends is not like it is in the stock markets elsewhere; you do not buy shares in a Japanese firm if you expect repayment. You won't get it. All the money is rolled back into the business.
No divis for you.
They've always been like this.
From Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to Chibichibi No Name Enterprises from some whogivesafuck prefecture.
That's the problem when investing in Japan.
You either stick to bonds or you buy into something you think's going to get BIG and you cash out then. Either way, it's a long game.
Buying jp stocks expecting dividends is only something rubes and retards do. Those that buy know the score, and don't bother pestering the board for divis. They m invest for the long haul.

>> No.50647408

>>50628671
Holoearth and the "Metaverse" is the same thing retardchama.

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>>50626212

>> No.50648438

>>50626212
Actually, the studio is working perfectly and ready for the delivery, but only for the talents Cover actually wants to support
https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1664649271495507968?t=TkdKPbSeeV1rmgW__QXoBg&s=19

>> No.50650135

>>50648438
Sadly you're wrong. This, just like the NePoLaBo live and the EN Concert were already done. Several jpstars have already stated that their individual Lives are postponed.

>> No.50650198

>Instead of mentioning something about Haachama they come up with an excuse about their 3d studio being broke just in time for her birthday
Okay she's got to be dead and they just can't say shit about it because of contracts

>> No.50651058

>>50626242
They fucked up some of the equipment maintenance, some of them don't work or they don't know how to use them.
So don't expect 3D content from the new studio for some time. Don't ask the chuubas about it or they will cry.

>> No.50651641

>>50626357
As if she'll actually show up to stream something for it.

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>> No.50653988

>>50653722
>hololive's 3D equipment suddenly brealks down the very next day after Vox announces he'll be away for a few days
Really makes you think

>> No.50658585

>>50626242
lol

>> No.50658776

>>50626303
>Some of the staffs are transitioning
I thought they fired Omega

>> No.50659035

>>50626212
At least they aren't beating around the bush, it's understandable setting up the new studio would be somewhat of a mess.

>> No.50659106

>>50628671
Go back to your containment thread nijinigger

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>>50659106
>Go back to your containment thread nijinigger

>> No.50662146

>>50647408
Both are gonna fail, yes

>> No.50662331

>>50632151
Then why many of their 3Ds look like dogshit? are they running into the same problem?

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