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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

Give us EN3 Yagoo

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I hope that Bae passing Fauna in subs lights a fire under her ass and she goes back to stop being so lazy with her content selection.

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Niji effortless 6k within 10 minutes. Highest ccv stream right now.

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>76,042: Aki (Hololive)
>58,439: Aqua (Hololive)
>46,169: Fubuki (Hololive)
>38,386: Kanata (Hololive)
>32,353: Lize (Nijisanji)
>28,237: Okayu (Hololive)
>23,139: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,913: VSPO (VSPO)
>18,348: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>16,243: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,766: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,353: AZKi (Hololive)
>13,819: Nui (Nijisanji)
>12,608: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>12,299: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,025: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,421: Chiroru (Indie)
>11,412: Choco (Hololive)
>11,136: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,948: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,760: Akina (Nijisanji)
>10,480: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

[Anonymous No.]

SOMEONE NERF KORONE!

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Feels like EN as a whole is undergoing another era of decline.
Is there an immediate reason? Viewership rankings from this month are basically the same order as last month but about 1k lower. Is May just a shitty month? Will we see another incline for the Summer?

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>>50599775
> JUNE 2023 GOLDS
1) Aki (Hololive) - 76,042 - Anniversary 3D Live

> PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
1x: Aki

> 2023 GOLDS
> PER COMPANY
117x: Hololive
24x: Nijisanji
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
2x: VSPO

> PER STREAMER
42x: Pekora
15x: Miko
13x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
4x: Hal
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Lui, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Ui, Watame, Yashiro

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>>50599792
Zelda arc and only thing to look forward to is the concert

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>>50599784
She already does that by herself

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first JP to play D4?

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Is my WifeRyS streaming today?

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>>50599784
Damn, I remember when Kuzuha would get 10k from his load screen no matter what. He did so with Idol Manager 4 in the morning back in the days

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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

> 6/1 DAILY TALLY
6,456: Baelz (Hololive)
6,205: Kronii (Hololive)


> EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 6,456 - Unarchived Karaoke

> PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
1x: Baelz

> POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
5p: Baelz
3p: Kronii

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>>50599853
wamy

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>>50599469
>Laplus
She absolutely got hit.
>Towa
She got hit the hardest. But I'll give you that she managed to come out on top thanks to the FPS scene, eventually. Her homo collabs are still her worst performing collabs, though.
>Noel
Urgent medicament intake needed.

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>>50599853
Wamy in 30 mins

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>>50599853
She played the Beta, as did Botan. Other girls played beta too but I can't remember who.
Official release she is the first to play

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>>50599884
> 2023 EN GOLDS
> PER COMPANY
112x: Hololive
38x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

> PER STREAMER
16x: Mori
14x: IRyS
13x: Fauna
12x: Baelz
11x: Gura, Mumei
10x: Kronii, Ina
9x: Vox
8x: Amelia
6x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca, Finana
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

> 2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
142p: Fauna
117p: IRyS
116p: Ina
114p: Mori
105p: Baelz
103p: Mumei
74p: Vox
68p: Kronii
61p: Amelia
60p: Kiara
55p: Gura
53p: Mysta
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
27p: Shu
17p: Pomu
14p: Ike
13p: Finana
12p: Enna
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Elira
9p: Millie, Fulgur
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka, Bettel
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Maria, Pippa, Nina

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>>50599825
>2x: Aki
>2x Nijisanji

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>>50599853
Ramirez

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Ina made it over the cripple hump

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>>50599893
Noel has collabed with males?

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>>50599835
Speaking of things to look forward to, has Gura even made a peep about her birthday? Coming up is a few weeks and no hype at all.

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>>50599984
no, she's fine with her toys

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People here really staring at a 5.6k Fauna and 5k Ina right now and thinking either “everything is fine” or “it’s because of homos”

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>>50599984
Not vtubers, not in years at the very least.

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>>50599825
>117x: Hololive
>24x: Nijisanji
This year has been such a mauling. I don't think they'll reach 60 golds.

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>>50600010
Her graduation is more important.

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>>50599984
flare is a cute male

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>>50600010
She talked about having a birthday live but thats it really. No mention of the stream itself.

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>>50599893
Pekora wasn’t touched from collabing with male e-celebs.

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>>50600051
it's fine
they still have Koshien month
they literally bending their own rules to make Kuzuha participate again

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>>50599984
No, even as C-word she never has.
She's just one of the people who said no holostar collabs directly so holobeggars hate her. Most JP holos don't say it directly.

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>MAY 2023 (NIJICOPE) GOLDS (No first army, Koyori or Korone)

1) Nagao (Nijisanji) - 19,344 - Outfit Reveal
2) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 37,369 - Valorant Tournament
3) Mio (Hololive) - 50,971- GW Totsu
4) Kanata (Hololive) - 24,857- GW Eroge
5) Akira (Nijisanji) - 68,511 - 3D Debut
6) Furen (Nijisanji) - 40,492 - 3D Live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 33,643 - Offcollab with Fubuki and Ayame
8) Botan (Hololive) - 21,623 - Green Hell
9) Patra (774) - 38,225- Graduation Stream
10) Shigure Ui (Indie) - 15,323- Zatsudan
11) Mio (Hololive) - 24,569 - Minecraft
12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut
13) Mel (Hololive) - 58,589 - 5th Anniversary 3D Live
14) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 35,552 - Sponsored Collab
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 26,621 - League of Legends
16) Towa (Hololive) - 28,363 - Raft
17) Laplus (Hololive) - 22,617 - Return Stream
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 94,012 - Birthday 3D Live
19) Towa (Hololive) - 82,921 - God Field Tournament
20) Okayu (Hololive) - 25,644 - Minecraft w/ Iroha
21) Toya (Nijisanji) - 23,741 - Discussion w/ Shiina
22) Nose (VSPO) - 136,222 - 3D Debut
23) Roboco (Hololive) - 66,843 - 3D Live
24) Akane (Nijisanji) - 45,486 - Graduation Stream
25) Laplus (Hololive) - 80,502 - 3D Birthday Variety Stream
26) Kanato (Nijisanji) - 67,982 - 3D Debut
27) Aki (Hololive) - 65,938 - 3D Live
28) Lui (Hololive) - 51,167 - Horse Betting
29) Matsuri (Hololive) - 23,173 - Apex Legends
30) Shigure Ui (Indie) - 50,146 - Birthday Zatsu
31) Fubuki (Hololive) - 21,889 - Live of Sky Gatcha

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive,
10x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: 774, VSPO

Who will be removed from this month's nijicope tally?

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>>50600135
>they literally bending their own rules to make Kuzuha participate again
I've never seen a source for this. That'd really be a shitty thing to do though.

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>>50600135
>bending their own rules to make Kuzuha participate
How does it work?

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>>50600051
Sadder thing is that over half those golds are from one month, which is also the last time they won a month.

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Why does my subscription tab looks weird all of a suden?

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>>50600178
its a rrat, never saw the source

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>>50599954
Hamada that's racist

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>>50600195
Nijisanji hasn't won a month in 2 years.

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>>50600195
Wait, I'm an idiot, that's just the EN branch.

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so what was the first Hololive EN twitter post after the "merge"? was it Hololive EN post or Holostars EN post?

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>>50600195
wrong tally

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>>50600178
>>50600182
make one of them give up "voluntarily" and have Kuzuha fill the slot

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>>50599784
krone is doing good. More importantly her game choices capture the niche audience

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>>50600037
I mean it’s definitely not great but it’s a 2 month old CouncilRyS RPG stream with no hype left, and Zelda part 129 or whatever.
I do think were seeing another recline in general EN viewership though, at least partially due to lack of the excitement which, yes, is somewhat due to Tempus eating up so much of Cover’s spotlight in EN.

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Desperate.

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>>50600226
That's weird. Try clicking on the grid of boxes in the upper right.

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So it turns out, Faunas floor is basically the same as it was pre-vacation?

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>>50600268
But what's the rule that's being bent?

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>>50600315
Anon nobody being serious thought anything would happen to her.

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>>50600238
Since September 2020 Hololive is 28-1-2 with the only month they lost they lost by 1.

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list of the graduated/hiatus chuubas post-2023

>Nunki https://twitter.com/nunki_dayo Graduated Febuary 26th
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff Graduated Febuary 29th
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune Graduated March 20th
>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber Graduated April 2nd
>Elaine https://twitter.com/Elaine_KoMETA Graduated May 8th
>Wabyuu https://twitter.com/waabyuu Graduated May 20th
>Iekushi Chapipi https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi Hiatus May 25th
>Blair Labri https://twitter.com/BlairLabri_NS Graduated May 26th
>Natsumi Moe https://twitter.com/vtuber_moe Retired May 30th

upcoming graduation/hiatus chuubas

>Ayane Hylo https://twitter.com/ayanehylo Graduating July 16th
>Miori Celesta https://twitter.com/mioricelesta Hiatus in June/July

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>>50600315
Depends on whether you think her floor is 6k or 7k.

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Reminder that these are the new First Army members.

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>>50600358
I don't really follow Niji much, but from what I've read here it's something like you can only be a captain 2 years in a row?

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>>50600253
Polkaden and Holo Alt translation post. They haven't posted anything else.

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Cunt

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>>50600315
You actually tought she would fall off from such a nothingburger yab?

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>>50600273
The holoen girls just need to stream better games. For example Bae genetial jousting game out performed her birthday and is one of her best performing vods. The en box is still there is just that most of the girls are not taping into it.

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>>50599792
1. Same old contents.
-Some are trying new content but few were well received
-People that stuck with old content inclines, other saw it and started to make sure their contents as little variability as possible
2. Laziness is rewarded
-Gura, nuff said
-Bae, Mori and Kiara, nuff said
-very few impromptu collabs between members (announced, written in the title of the streams)
3. No fun 3D events
-By that I mean REAL events, not some impromptu shit they did when they gathered up
-No one has the will and political (?) power to organize a real scripted event
4. No internal unity among the biggest company
-They don't even bother to show up in some big collabs, like the amongus collab (ID's amongus stream had all 9 members in it)
-Direction (cgdct vs homo collabs) is not really a true divide, at least not on the JP side (Foob is still invited by all, Matsuri too in some degree) so don't give me that.
5.No external collabs (most contentious point in all of these)
-Nijisanji JP was (and still is) pro-unity outside of company back then when they were the biggest company
-First army members (6 of them) all have external collabs and ties, while in EN only Kiara has that
-HoloEN can have their walled garden, but some of them need to reach outside (not to the homos) in order to give the entire industry a fresh look

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>>50600304
i'm already on grid mode, the list mode is even shittier

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>>50600110
Event/sponsored streams aren't at all the same as collabs made for leisure and bonding. Only beggars who purposefully misrepresent what homocollabs entail will push those as damning. And Pekora is perfectly aware of that, unsurprisingly.

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>>50600408
7k floor seems to be the same timeslot but solo

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So you’re Fauna and Ina right now and you’re looking at your metrics, what are you thinking? “Dammit tempiss this is all your fault” or are you thinking “Damn I need to stop peddling lazy content”?

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>>50600454
You're getting A/B tested for some sort of Shorts shilling feature, maybe. Looks horrible.

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>>50600315
As we all know your floor is what you get on fangames

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>>50600493
Why would Fauna give a shit

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>>50600493
"Dammit it is all Babski's fault!"

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>>50600491(me)
works for either Ina or Fauna I mean

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>>50600273
Tempus needs more limelight since they're sinking towards the Mariana trench. The girls are way more successful so they don't need as much attention. Also if the EN stars were a big hit they'd also get more attention since Cover really wants the brand to succeed. Is this fair? No. Is it equitable? Yes.

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>>50600491
Good point, makes sense.

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>>50600444
At least for the 3rd point it shouldn't be held against the girls, there isn't much they can do. Hopefully the new studio helps with that, but the fact that Ina's Live is nowhere to be seen doesn't inspire confidence.

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>>50600493
Anon RPGs/Zelda/etc aren’t lazy content they’re just not big numbers catchers. Lazy content is react stuff imo.

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Are the any vtubers that get high viewer counts, high superchats and high monthly subscribers?

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>>50600444
>Laziness is rewarded
Sana: I can relate to that

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>>50600560
Actually it can with the 3D studio in Ame's house. They had those ghetto 3D a few times already but very little skits or scripted fun content out of it.

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>>50600578
Pekora

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>>50600444
Calling bullshit on Bae being lazy, her stuff might not be the constant best for numbers but you can't deny she does and tries a lot.

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>>50600578
Hololive(35)

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>>50600649
Retard, he's using those 3 as an example of those who AREN'T lazy but don't pull numbers. Christ.

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>>50600550
Funny part is that their own upcoming product (Holoplus) will basically kill their mindshare since people will be able to curate their own feeds instead of being force fed Homo shit.

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>>50600444
>Laziness
>Kiara
Excuse me, what?
>all the reasons of 5
lel

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>>50600466
Explain Kanata sperging out about it and doing everything within her power to show her fans she distanced herself from the males if it was such a nothingburger?

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>>50600649
People are stuck on calling her lazy because her Febaerary was so shit this year, but other than that shes been at least average in effort.

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>>50600641
I think Pekora is great but there are very few vtubers that get high monthly subscribers and I don't think she's one of them.

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>>50600649
Mori, Kiara and Bae are all hardworking which is why it is in another category as opposed to Gura. I guess the title should be "Laziness is rewarded, hardwork is punished".

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>>50600444
>HoloEN can have their walled garden, but some of them need to reach outside (not to the homos) in order to give the entire industry a fresh look
I've said this 10 times.
Holofags don't care what's happening outside. That's nijifag's mentality.

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>>50600719
go back advertisersan

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>>50600702
Kanata is not the norm. She is crazy. Don't worry about her.

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>>50600670
then it's stupid to put it under the "laziness is rewarded" section, that's their problem

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>>50600631
All of those ghetto 3Ds were either VRchat or had heavy Kanauru influence. Having said that, the Easter one was fairly well done but >Kiara channel

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>>50600679
That feature will be disabled for the holostars.

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>>50600724
holofags are a depleting well in EN.

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Tempiss status?

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>>50600724
The healthiness of the industry as a whole can affect their numbers too. First army knew this and are actively reaching out in their own ways
>Suisei - music industry
>Pekora - streamer's industry, rival company
>Miko - ....
>Subaru - normalfag appeals, also streamer's industry
>Aqua - fps community
>Marine - underground seiyuu/doujin industry

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>>50600841
You joke but I unironically think they will force you to see them in some way.

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>>50600444
>No external collabs (most contentious point in all of these)
Who in the EN industry is worth collabing with? NijiEN? Reclined far harder than HoloEN, down in the dirt, also a yab disaster factory that can't go a week without a drama.
Twitch indies? Mostly reclined, and are a poisonous nest of clout-chasing vipers who will backstab you as soon as you're no longer useful. Collab with them if you want a Twitlonger knife in your back 3 months later.
Vshojo? Not JP for obvious reasons and who the heck even is in VshojoEN besides Ironmouse, who HoloEN collabs with pretty frequently?
Idol corp? Small-timers who would benefit far, far more than Hololive ever would.

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>>50600538
>unironic superchat cope
Maybe Fauna was the one who stole Luxiems audience not Tempus

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>>50600444
Bae is about to retake Fauna in subs. If anything she’s proof that trying things outside the box works.

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>>50600863

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>>50600805
It is on Kiara's channel because she organized it.
It was one of the best one because Kiara organized it.

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>>50600702
Kanata explicitly promised to not collab with males to her viewers, and she supposedly got tangled in that collab unaware of the details. I do agree she overreacted to the situation though.

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Kobo hit 100M video views a few days ago. I'm surprised I missed it.

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>>50600949
How long you gonna keep spamming this anon

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>>50600701
see >>50600722

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>>50600782
Kanata is based, actually.

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>>50600939
In the perspective of Fauna nothing is "wrong". Less viewers, sure, but she's still raking in cash so why should she care? You have IDs in the same fucking company pulling 1/5 of her numbers, sometimes even 1/9th of her numbers, and they're doing fine too. You really think that they give a shit about numbers like these threads do?

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>>50600912
>Who in the EN industry is worth collabing with?
Keanu Reeve
Megan Fox
Disney
EA

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>>50601066
I'm into all of these ideas. You should send your résumé to Jap-sama.

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>>50600444
way to kill your whole argument with the most retarded arguments on item 5
all holoEN needed was consistency and good events. Now they need something major to shake the whole shit up.

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>>50600895
>You joke
I'm not. I have yet to see Cover not try and force the holostars on an audience that has rejected them.

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>>50601037
>Less viewers, sure, but
stopped reading there

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Awwwwwwww Koyori ended before we can get a triple Wamy

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is pekora still shadowbanned for you guys?

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>>50601178
Crisis averted

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>>50601005
They are separated by only 4k subs anon. A genmate overtaking another genmate in subs this far after their debuts is a pretty big deal.

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>>50601111
Told you 5th point is the most controversial one. Good events can only bring you so far. They have the responsibility to make the industry better. They just need to choose their collab partners carefully.

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>>50601169
I'm sorry you're literally retarded enough to project your numberniggerism onto the talents.

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In the span of time it took HoloJP to debut 6 gens and add RBC, Miko, and Suisei to Hololive it took HoloEN to debut 2 gens and add IRyS.

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since its just some mid streams right now nobody is talking about, how about a dogshit hypothetical that will never happen
>holoEN management tries to overcorrect the course
>drops 10 girls
how bad of a bloodbath does it become

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>>50601254
Don't forget Tempiss and Tempoop.

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>>50601228
Pretty good bait but I think you've veered too far into overly obvious

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>>50601254
Because HoloJP had explosive sustained growth that merited expansion while EN has been on a straight path of recline for 2 years.

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>>50601254
bro your tempus?

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>>50601254
Pretty crazy to think about. Even crazier if you include the homos (relevant since the JP homos debuted in that same range).

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>>50601211
Especially in vtubing where subscribers are slow.

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>>50601325
>bait
It is not. Hint: the collab is not necessarily between vtubers.

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>>50601302
Not a terrible idea. Doing EN3 right now and then En4 in January 2024 or something is better, but 10 right this second is preferable to 5 in two months and then 5 more two years later.
The biggest problem would be logistics and scheduling. But it would be so unusual it could draw crowds back.

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>>50601302
Like at once? Short term is probably nightmare mode, but it might be better for the box long term

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>>50601302
I dunno but 5member gen is bad luck, it's better with 3 or 4

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>>50601302
>>holoEN management tries to overcorrect the course
They don't even see a problem. Yeah, EN3 probably won't be doing much better than 4k at this rate. Still better than nothing and will draw some of the audience back.

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>>50600226
You got an update. I got something similar on my playlist on mobile

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>>50600891
>Pekora - rival company
kek all pekora managed to get from that was to tank her regular numbers a bit

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>>50601369
JP homos also debuted during that span of time, so if anything that makes it worse.

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>>50600315
I mean she literally got 4k the other day so not really.

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Numbers with this game
>Mumei 9.6k with raid
>IRyS 7.6k without overlap
>Bae 4.2k overlapping Ame with 4.9k
thoughs?

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>>50601447
>>50600891
forgot the pic

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Homos = niggers
Niji = chinks

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>>50601408
People forgot how low JPs numbers were with twice as many people back in the day. Worse than EN now, and look what they became.

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>>50601368
Nigger shut the fuck up with this reverse causality bullshit

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>>50600949
baes ccv is as shit as ever

[Anonymous No.]

Til got her first 100 subs despite being shadowbanned on twitter.
https://www.youtube.com/@Til_abyss

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601254
And JP still has a better percentage of successes too, even with how many people they have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601504
Was a pretty good numbers game at first, but the buff was probably gone after a week or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601254
>debut gen 0
incline
>debut gen 1
incline
>debut gen 2
incline massively
>debut gamers
incline
>debut gen3
another massive incline
>debut gen4
somewhat inclined
>debut gen5
stagnated for a while, which is why holoX took so long

For EN
>debut Myth
incline
>debut IRyS
somewhat inclined?
>debut Council
decline

Do you know why there is no EN3/4 now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50600891
That's just part of their identities. Aqua played apex zeons ago just not good enough back then. Why don't you list Roboco then? Where's her apex reach out buff?
By your logic where should they reach out next? Can they keep reaching out to new territory every year or indefinitely?

[Anonymous No.]

>Mumei only 16k from passing Kronii in subs
>Bae only 4k away from passing Fauna in subs

Welcome to the new MuBae world order KroFaucucks.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU2m_Dh5mS4
>350K views in 10 hours
how many was miko's at this point?

[Anonymous No.]

A lot of people here forget the one massive difference from the JP Vtubing industry and EN Vtubing industry is the in the early days of the JP Vtubing industry the entire community worked together to cultivate it and grow in to the way it is now the EN side on the other hand did not have such unified effort to do the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601585
Didnt irys have a 5k average last month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601610
Mumei will pass Kronii
Bae wont pass Fauna no matter how many times you scream it brrap

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601585
>debut IRyS
this is when shit gone wrong

[Anonymous No.]

Ina is closing the gap somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601368
I would agree that for EN it would have been counterproductive to release that many gens in such a short span of time, but it still needed enough to build an actual self-sufficient branch. The lack of new members by this point IS part of the reason for its recline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601504
Fauna seems about expected taking those numbers into account. Irys also had the first play buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601585
Yet they're still doing ID4 even though the debuts declined from 2 -> 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601668
This, shitrys is a mistske

[Anonymous No.]

>>50600912
Shylily? She's a fan of hololive and has defended them from "muh parasocialism" takes both in twitter and twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's your EN sponsor

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601668
Well at least IRyS got more subscribers than any other channel in the world for 1 day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601559
NijiEN already showed you the results of ACCELERATE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601610
Oh I just realized Mumei got to 850k.
Good for her though she hasn't been able to celebrate any of her recent milestones

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601598
>Why don't you list Roboco then?
Because I was talking about First Army and their feats.
>Can they keep reaching out to new territory every year or indefinitely?
No idea. Aqua surprised me with massive number for Apex and I am sure they can surprise me again.
EN can do it too. Bae surprised me with her good numbers few days ago but it is hard to incline solely on shock value so she has to find another way if she wants to surprise people again.

[Anonymous No.]

they should debut Council as two part gen with IRyS
like
Space Time Nature 1st wave
Hope Chaos and whatever Mumei is 2nd wave

[Anonymous No.]

speaking of 1m songs
>Amelias king is 4k from 1m after 8 months
>Baelz 943k with 3 days til 1 month so will miss 1 month for 1 million just by a bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>50600444
>in order to give the entire industry a fresh look
Here is my disagreement with this point
>there is no “entire industry”
Here is my evidence
>pic related
That’s what happens when you mash up the disparate incompatible pieces that call themselves “EN vtubers”.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601703
>ID2 debut -> decline
Do you guys really memory-holed how big Ollie was back in the days?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601228
eh then its not about unity and saving the grifter assholes who keep whining and begging (as it seemed like in some part of your post), and i agree with you i guess. A few carefully picked collabs would fall under the events category in the end. But thats not something they should ever depend on and would not be what makes or breaks them, unlike the other items.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601730
Ok you're just shitposting. fuck off then

[Anonymous No.]

>>50600971
She over did it, but she proved to her audience that her words actually mean something

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601772
amusing how all the bad models all slowly normalized to proper anime stylized models over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601741
Time to kill shitrys

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601772
This collab is the reason why I only watch Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601807
Have you memory-holed that Cover cares enough about debut CCV to include it in their IPO docs? So much so that it's the only time CCV is mentioned?

[Anonymous No.]

How come Fauna and Mumei topping the Council nowadays? Kronii was like a mile above everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601637
most of the EN industry lives for drama and controversy pretty much

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601661
This actually worth a screenshot grudgepost. Bae is likely passing Fauna before Mumei passes Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

En gold for the og en vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601772
Oh I guess you've never seen how scuff the models were during the early stage of vtubing in JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601637
cant be unified when the biggest dog lives in his own yard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601881
Bro they love subs the most, like actually putting them on their train station banner or something during the fes
Ollie 1M subs > All of council

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601881
IPO docs are for the investors to look at, doesn't mean that is what the company cares about, it just mean that is what they think their investors would care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601302
This would be an over correction. One gen and 2 special debuts would be the most they could get away

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601830
How is that a shitpost retard?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601975
>Ollie 1M subs > All of council
Oh shit now that you mentioned it, at least Ollie has that going for her, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Double Lamy feature right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601843
I still can't believe Silvervale used to look like that. It's like art from a bad catgirl knockoff of a Bratz doll.

[Anonymous No.]

En gold for the og en vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602046
>post his tweet
fucking retard, kys, go back containment breaker

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602046
I swear to god some of our regulars are the most "prolific" containment breakers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601975
So you did memory-hole it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602089
>>50601925

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601637
>in the early days of the JP Vtubing industry the entire community worked together to cultivate it and grow in
No they fucking didn’t. In the “Four Heavenly Kings” each company was set in their own universe and even a vtuber acknowledging the existence of another briber (let alone collabing) was an event.
Mirai Akari, in a collab with kson, mentioned that her collab with IIRC Kaguya Luna (mentioning from memory, maybe not Kaguya) worked like this
>managers on both side agree on a script
>collab partner shows up at the other girl studio
>both read their lines, record the video, go back home
This illusion of “unity” you’re misremembering comes from the fact the NEXT generation of vtubers (the ones in the live2D era) were mostly NicoNico imports and came with their culture and cliques baked in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602046
you cannot avoid the bois! WAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602089
This but unironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602089
Does she stream on Youtube? No? Fuck off!

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602089
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>Fauna genuinely laughing at every reference in the game
>Fauna genuinely getting excited whenever a Sapling appears on screen
how the actual FUCK can anyone say she hates her fans or Hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601585
>debut gen4
>somewhat inclined
>debut gen5
stagnated for a while
The period after gen4 debuted was one of the biggest inclines in holo's history, if not the biggest. It started before their debut, but it achieved peak incline during 2020 and the incline continued even after gen5 debuted. Where's graph anon when you need him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602046
Containment breaking aside, im surprised on how mixed the response was, a good chunk of people hated this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602237
catalogniggers wont watch the stream anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602237
shitposters generally dont care about the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601843
>>50601948
I’m not talking about the models.
Are you guys unaware of the events that transpired on that Garry’s Mod collab?

That was the pivotal event that killed ANY pretense of “cross company cross platform unity” which was being attempted by Niji and VShojo as an alternative to Holo walled garden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602240
I think in late 2019 Aqua got a large subscriber boost. Fubuki was fast the whole time too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602077
it had soul though

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601844
bro... your filename...

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602164
Mirai Akari was the vtubers at the time where videos are more popular than livestreams. Of course they are going to arrange dates and read lines for the videos. Those are the times when all of the vtubers are using 3D models. It is only when nijisanji barged into the market that live2d became a norm. Live2D was looked down at and Nijisanji was accused of pumping out gazillion of low quality vtubers using live2D instead of the "traditional" 3D. That is also when livestreams became mainstream for vtubers and collabs between companies/indies are getting more and more frequent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602272
>a good chunk of people hated this
I just looked at the QRTs, what good chunk are you talking about? 90% were hating on it KEK
>url:1664128387311611905

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602237
Because they don't watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602061
why do you need to lie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602240
>It started before their debut, but it achieved peak incline during 2020
They are riding the wave of gen3.

[Anonymous No.]

No Ads vs Ads

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602480
Or perhaps Coco was something a bit different for Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602363
>Are you guys unaware of the events that transpired on that Garry’s Mod collab?
Sorry I don't watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602237
laughing at funny or interesting reference or getting excited at cute mascot has really nothing to do with loving or hating her fans and hololive

[Anonymous No.]

EN/Tempus3 is a mixed gen. It's the only reasonable explanation about the merging Twitter accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602055
I'd honestly be willing to believe the rrat that new gens aren't launched unless one from the previous gen has a million subs (except for homos apparently), except that seems really stupid from a business perspective. Also none of the talents who say they want another gen seem to put much effort into increasing subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>EN getting mogged by JP in their own primetime

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602580
where jp7

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602480
That's not entirely true and also besides the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602240
Is vtubing finally dying off? Is this lull the end of it all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602411
That’s all true, and corroborates the point being made, that it is not true that
>in the early days of the JP Vtubing industry the entire community worked together to cultivate it and grow in
It was actually not until the implosion of .LIVE and Brave Group and the rise of Nijisanji (and the subsequent acceleration) that any semblance of cohesion and cooperation

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602580
could a holo wish for another gen with their million sub wish?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602572
I can't wait for the female part of the gen to try and brand themselves as real holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602240
gen 5 were shitty hires that fucked over the incline, you just can't see it on a chart because Myth rescued and boosted holoJP numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602580
If the rrat were true, JP wouldn't be gunning for the stars record either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602621
Hololive is fine, especially JP.
It's everything else that needs to get better

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602580
>showing signs of growth
put more resources into it
>showing signs of decline
slowly shutting down the business

Isn't this the norm in business world?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602194
T. Seething nijicuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602404
Like I said, it started before their debuts, i.e. late 2019, but it continued and accelerated during 2020.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602635
>female
Female (trans).

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602572
I UNIRONCAILLY WILL DUMP HOLOEN IF EN3 IS A MIXED GEN. I WAITED 2 YEARS FOR THAT AND THEY'LL FORCE FAGGOTS DOWN MY THROAT?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602681
Disney: you know absolutely nothing about business

[Anonymous No.]

Anykara's stock price on halt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602171
This is the shit people were complaining about. Does hololivetv retweet this kind of shit also? I know they tweet about merch of the homos and maybe official sponsor collabs which is fair desu but retweeting this shit is why people were mad with the move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602410
Again, do your reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602764
EAT UR HECKING VEGGIES

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602572
as much as i hate Trannychan, her discord leaks explain that the guy who managed the holopro one will no longer be doing it so they are pushing it all into the same guy. Which is retarded ofc

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602540
Here one of the LEAST cringe moments
>Haruka (then indie, now VShojo) badgering a clearly uncomfortable Pomu about her upcoming surgery (thought to be breast cancer related)

[Anonymous No.]

>Fauna gambles
>Numbers go up
WHY

[Anonymous No.]

Veggies status?

[Anonymous No.]

Korone is 2 steps away from 2M now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602781
I am sure people at Disney are genius in doing business and made all the correct decisions. I kneel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602763
... wouldn't be mixed gender in the first place, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602788
They’re moving from grower market (?) to regular market, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602272
Nothing unusual about it. Fans are simply getting sick of EN management spending so much time and effort on their tempiss flops while leaving the EN girls to themselves without any efforts to get a 3rd gen out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602272
I mean, it was fucking retarded on many accounts. Lets start from the beginning:
>HoloproEN twitter creation being fucking RETARDED because it completely invalidated the original Hololive_en twitter and turned it into a barren wasteland despite having 700k+ followers
>HoloproEN twitter got way too uppity with promoting the homos and made active attempts at putting them on the same level as the Hololive members
>Was ridiculously slow at promoting the girls and would sometimes not even tweet or retweet about something important of theirs, but would take no time to promote DA BOYZ
>When Stars finally gets gutted and has no traction whatsoever, they abandon the twitter and go back to the original one that now has no traction AT ALL
Just retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

I’m sorry but EN Twitch vtubers just completely and utterly mog the entertainment value of YT corpo vtubers now. They never stop acting like they’re in a constant rat race to climb to the top and their content selection reflects that, while HoloEN is out here playing multipart BoTW and a Kusoge fangame months after it came out and everybody else has played it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602877
say ahhh!

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602854
I thought JPs didn't watch Fauna

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602901
No, it would be a 6 people gen, 3 males (trans) and 3 females (trans).

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602764
What if the girls were so fucking cute though bro? Just ignore the tranny/homo half.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602681
>Basing business decisions on a single metric
You also need to invest to grow. Cover understood this in the early JP days.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna called herself mommy we've made it

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602948
You can only say this if they win the combined tally for June.

[Anonymous No.]

Will Ironmouse take the first place of most watched hours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602948
HoloEN stopped trying to give back to the fans after the first year for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXAyQw1eQfQ
Finally Subau is doing the Madoka watchalong, reckon this could break her watchalong record

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602933
>HoloproEN twitter got way too uppity with promoting the homos
That account was created with the express purpose of promoting HolostarsEN to the HololiveEN audience.

I say this tweet right here
https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1484017037303508996
happened when the overall plan to make “HoloProEN” the centerpiece of their EN strategy

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602633
>rescued
Myth fucking stole viewers from the ongoing JP incline. That's why Korone and Fubuki reclined while non-EOP based Holos inclined like Pekora and Marine. Of course, JP stole them back after Coco left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603139
source

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602842
>her discord leaks explain that the guy who managed the holopro one will no longer be doing it so they are pushing it all into the same guy
Isn't it the opposite? the holopro guy is taking over HoloEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603139
I disagree, at least with regards to Fubuki. The bulk of the audience she lost was from the amputation of the Chinese branch and audience from Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna 6k

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602980
>What if the girls were so fucking cute though bro?
NTA but this is a hypothetical dilemma question.
If you hate condom funds try escape as soon as possible the moment you realize they are cocksleeves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603086
>needs a month long subathon to do so
Congrats, I guess KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603113
What I find strange is that HolostarsEN genuinely acts as a competitor to Hololive, out to defeat it and claim its market share. I guess it makes sense if they don't share profits, it would only benefit them to destroy Hololive and get all their revenue for themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603086
Of all female streamers? IDK, who else counts? Ironmouse really has nothing else to do in her life but lay in bed and stream all day, so it's a little bit cheating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603302
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603302
its a parasite

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603266
dorya

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601303
If you’re going to count Tempus you have to count the 12 HomoJPs which makes it even worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603113
Man, talk about a flame out. Cover totally wanted the EN branch to be mixed. They really thought HoloEN fans would accept it. The fact that the homos didn't look like abysmal failures at first prompted Cover to try and debut more since Cover is looking for any sign that the hoilostars are salvageable.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kuzuha barely grazing over 10k with Diablo 4, only to return to below that mark
I know he started 8AM but, even then, he’s playing with Kanae (which is sub 5k).
The only time I saw the pair this rebuffed was during CCVID, their audience might have taken a hit from inconsistent streaming due to idol reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603302
>HolostarsEN genuinely acts as a competitor to Hololive
?????
How can they be competitors when their target audiences are very different. Many would even say their target audiences are enemies with each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601717
GO BACK

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603096
>for some reason
They stopped trying when they realized that they can just sit around and get free money.
Everyone now knows that 3Dlive are funded by the holomems themselves, which is why they have merch at the end of most if not all 3Dlive, including birthday and anniversary. I am not sure whether they can make even with the merch but iirc they said the 3Dlive is something they give back to the fans as a gift for their support. Aki is definitely spending more money than she earn for the past 2 weeks.

Meanwhile at most we can have for EN's birthday is either a totsu, a zatsu, a karaoke, or a scuff Ame's ghetto 3D
>they don't have access to 3D studio, you retarded last samurai!
That is beside the point. The point is that they are still selling birthday merch without the 3Ds. They are basically putting 0 investment into their birthday financially but still racking in birthday merch money (all limited sold out within a minute), compared to the JP, who had an upfront cost for anniversary and birthday.
Internally of course they know this is the case. The thing is that when they know they can earn the same amount (more if you subtract the cost of 3D studio) od money as the JPs by just having a simple birthday stream, why won't they just stream garbage, or better, not streaming (Gura) and still have those money coming in?

[Anonymous No.]

bruhs I’m tired of seeing all these 5ks and 6ks from HoloEN, please just give me a crumb of 8-9k. Not even asking for 5 digits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603566
Sorry anon. Only Lamyslot is allowed 10k at this hour

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603566
But you've deployed 2 gen of Tempus for that, Yagoo

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603545
Their target is getting fans from Hololive, though. It's not working very well but they persist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603566
I can't believe what I said 2 weeks ago became reality so soon >>49950269

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603485
I really think they looked at Luxiem's initial growth and really thought that male vtubers were the future for EN, especially when Council couldn't reach Myth's fad-era numbers. So even though they also declined hard Niji accidently damaged HoloEN in the process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603566
sorry but the top EN is on break because of throat hort

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603566
I'm tired of seeing these 5Ks. I want at least 100Ks. I am talking about monthly subscribers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602854
GACHAGACHAGACHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603566
What about watching da boiz?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602237
>How the fuck can anyone say the emotions that actors display in their roles are not real?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603560
They must be getting paid way too much by Cover to not even have the simple incentive of streaming for a little extra revenue.

[Anonymous No.]

>subathons
so... you're paying someone in subs, to do the same thing they were doing every day but in a 24hr period...
i will always hate this fucking concept.

[Anonymous No.]

get ready for diablo 4 to annihilate the CCV of anybody who streams it this week

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602948
>React slop
>drops enabled
>(Handcam) gangbanging the OTV/OTK clique

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603566
Funny how quickly the Outlast collab got memory-holed here. It wasn't even a week ago.

[Anonymous No.]

A rising tide lifts all ships
A receding tide lowers all ships

I still believe EN3 can stop the bleeding and gain everyone viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603787
It's funny because she's just getting her usual numbers. No incline at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603545
If their target audiences are very different, why is the bulk of the marketing strategy for Holostars to advertise them on the subreddit created by the fans of the girls to talk about the girls, and to shove them on the twitter account created to translate the JP girl news to English, and to create a whole new account for “Hololive (Production) EN” with the purpose of posting things about both branches, but focusing exclusively on the boys one?
One would imagine that if the goal is to promote them to a different audience they would use the Holostars subreddit and the holostars twitter exclusively

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603666
They have been stubborn retards and I dunno why. If you looked at a previous meet and greet paid event of Holostars, all visitors are females.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603686
i mean nijiEN fags could also argue that HoloEN damaged them by having their first year focus on women only
retarded companies that don't know their strengths

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603776
Yeah, 300 dollars for a 2 hours amongus stream is not really an incentive for them. They are definitely get paid significantly more than $150/hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603818
What if EN3 causes EN viewers to unsubscribe from their current oshi and dogpile onto a new shiny thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603706
Yagoo is not paying those salome bot's money

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603795
>Kuzuha 10k
>Kanae 4k
It seems to be a buff for the shitters but massive debuff from the tops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603922
Salome got over 1M in a month. Surely 100k is possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603902
They'll be back. It might light a fire under some asses too.

[Anonymous No.]

Lamy's PC is getting fucked by Diablo4
Didn't think D4 was resource heavy

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603818
>I still believe EN3 can stop the bleeding
>can
I dare you to switch the word "can" to "will"

[Anonymous No.]

>>50600702
>>50600971
>>50600782
>>50601022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDuoUAAU0ug

owarida...

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603560
If lives are talent-funded that also makes them more expensive for ENs than JPs, since ENs would need to fund their travel to and stay in Japan in addition to the normal costs, all while probably not even getting half the views. Can't really blame them taking that into account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604014
>that also makes them more expensive for ENs than JPs
Provided if they did any for their birthday. Iirc only Gura and Kiara did it. Others don't even bother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603832
>promote them to a different audience
By replicating Nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603803
React slop is based and when Gura tried to tell us, she got rebuked by her 2 digit IQ pedo fans and lost all motivation to stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604014
>Can't really blame them taking that into account.
So ENs think purely about profits but JPs like Aki are willing to bleed their wallet just for their fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604013
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604014
>if
They are talent funded. Noel talked extensively about it, in how it’s a way to give back to the fans (same as recording covers) and how she planned did three in 2022 but would “only” be able to do two in 2023 due to studio capacity

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604004
Kaela's PC seems fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603983
for reference vei had 10k viewers streaming Q remastered yesterday and this is henya's lowest numbers since her debut and silvervale's lowest numbers since possibly last year

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604112
So you moved on to pretending to be a chumbud?

[Anonymous No.]

200k! (season 3)

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602272
*deletes your complain*
nobody is mad about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604118
If a JP doesn't have a live she is gonna be left beheind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604083
>By replicating Nijisanji?
I don’t know if you mean EN or JP but it doesn’t matter, their strategy is simple
>debut hundreds
>some will succeed, most won’t
They just debuted 15 JP in 2023 alone, no? IDIOS and the two hero ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604112
kys

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju2U9DB50MI
>Another tourney
This should be easy EN gold, no?

[Anonymous No.]

HoloJP needs new competition

[Anonymous No.]

>>50600110
I'm not even trying to be against your general point, but hikakin literally doesn't count. I've seen the most hardcore JP unicorns saying they could accept a male collab if it were hikakin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604112
I do think Gura deserves an apology for this. There is literally nothing wrong with react content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604014
Not all Holos live near the studio. Some of them rent places there as well. I guess flight tickets are more expensive internationally vs domestic but that's a drop in a bucket compare to their earnings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604347
>Splatoon
>Literal whos from the top to bottom
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604351
I mentioned this before, won’t make the lengthy post again but the short summary is
>it is not because Holostars are boys
>it’s because they’re scrubs

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604351
I mean Okayu literally screamed herself to orgasm when his vid to her popped up. No repercussions right?

[Anonymous No.]

It's almost impressive how easily people get baited by every catalog shitposter and Nijifag that wanders into this thead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604349
If you remove Pekora, Miko, Marine, Suisei, Subaru, Mio, Korone, Koyori, and Towa Nijisanji puts up a good fight.

[Anonymous No.]

Both Anycolor and Cover are up quite a bit (5-6%) in the morning trading.

[Anonymous No.]

Enna lied about her income.
She makes about $115k from superchat+membership. Add in the streamlabs gets her to $120k

Nina said that voicepacks were 1 months income for her. Although we can't be super precise, it's a fair bet that Enna gets from 5k-10k per voicepack opportunity, and she's had several. Doing 3 voicepacks a year you might expect her to get $15k-$25k.
Convention appearances bring her a couple thousand. Adsence is a couple thousand. Merch, tiny as it is, comes to another couple thousand.

Altogether Enna makes in the realm of $150k. There is no possible way she makes less than $100k like she said she did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604212
Kneel to the queen. Playing 5D chess while everyone else is playing Diablo IV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603902
If an EN3 whore can make me drop my oshi I will become an anti schizo of my current oshi and give her a red supa when she gets monetization if not, I will anti all of EN3, make multiple bait threads, shit on their numbers here and in global and ask them on twitter to collab with the homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604349
I think at the start of April MrBeast did a stream on his second channel and it got a few hundred thousand live viewers. That can be their new competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604112
If she really wanted to do react content she could have done Holo memes or something like that once in a while, but that requires some legwork and she probably just wants to watch YouTube on stream like the Twitchies.

[Anonymous No.]

i wonder how the girls cope with the fact that management is malicious
how they explain it to themselves in their minds

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604586
ogey schizo

[Anonymous No.]

-> CATALOG SPY HERE
>/pcg/ is melting down
Their girls are going full blown on virtue signaling, turns out Phase is not 20 Pippas

<- CATALOG SPY OUT

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN reclining...

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604551
>screenshotting your own post
it doesn't seem reliable to assume she's holding that membership count for 12 months. after whatever tax, high COL rent, presumable helping family if she's Asian, and concert/music perms, it's plausible that whatever's left in her checking account is low.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna ending so yeah Ina gold. Fuck meetings I wish she finished this fucking game today so she doesn't play this garbage again but nooooooo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604586
that before or after you tie the rope

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604626
Nice small corpo you have there phasekeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604626
It makes sense that HoloEN will always win since other corpos are too retarded to not avoid potential yabs.

[Anonymous No.]

Burgerbros please shots all homolovers in EN concert

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604070
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604585
I just checked and apparently it only got about 30k live viewers which is impressive since he's been breaking world records recently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604626
supporting the fag community is bad now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604070
>/#/s in charge of watching streams

[Anonymous No.]

>Fauna going to SC reading
Uuuuu why can't she stream 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604285
Holofags are dudes who come to watch girls. Cover kept using mixed collab for homos to appeal to dudes. Which defies logic and common sense. You suggested that homos weren't appealing to dudes but to a brand new group of audience. There are two critical flaws with your assumption.
1) when a mixed collab is announced, who do you think is coming to watch the show? Mostly dudes and a few homofans. Do they attract new audiences outside the current fanbase? No. So in the end who are homos appealing to? Dudes.
2) Cover built its success upon walled garden. Nijisanji triumphed with mixed collab. If Cover is targeting audience who likes mixed collab it is literally self sabotaging and trying to compete with Nijisanji’s forte.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604708
>it doesn't seem reliable to assume she's holding that membership count for 12 months.
Did you see her tweet? She says the memberships are "increasing gradually"
The key part of that is "gradually". Enna has about 3.7k automatic-renewal members. Even if those should decline, it certainly wouldn't be quickly or suddenly. In fact, Enna doesn't say they are declining, she says they are increasing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604347
JP time, all one POV, maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604551
Ennaschizo, watch this short: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r246NXXBslk

[Anonymous No.]

>people saying react content is based
you guys are just people who want someone to watch youtube videos with because you have no friends to do so.
like wow bro, you watched a video about a monkey swinging in a zoo.
do you REALLY need to know what the streamer's or vtubers thought about it as well? or do you just like independent thought and NEED their reaction and opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604456
Based, the nip fans are not so different than I. I don’t care if Fauna mentions or even interacts with popular male e-celebs, but I would absolutely take issue if she ever collabed with the failed abortion that are holostars.

[Anonymous No.]

speaking of LGTV month
I actually thought the sapling were going to send her gay SCs, it's really weird that they didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604865
By 3D I mean Cover's 3D not Ame's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604850
yes, giving your social or political commentary as an anime person is retarded. You're alienating half your audience by doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605012
Wanna let me know how Ina's is going?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604718
Ina gold isn't looking so definite

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604972
Big numbers good
Shit numbers bad
Personal attacks and projection don't matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604347
That's not a tournament

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604850
Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604983
Fauna probably has the lowest female percent of viewers, or close to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605047
Fauna hasn't fully ended yet.

[Anonymous No.]

Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605147
Context?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605073
So, Vox's early dick sucking asmr was good according to your metrics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604904
>You suggested that homos weren't appealing to dudes but to a brand new group of audience.
I did not, >>50603545 did.
My position is simpler: ***nobody*** really wants to watch male vtubers
>not to the same extent they watch girl vtubers
SPECIALLY not Cover branded male vtubers.
Proof to that is that they have two branches with over 20 of them and their collective average is on three digits, with only five of them staying on four digits (for now, with only Roberu having proved to be a perma four digits).

I don’t know if this disclosure changes what you’re talking about but you seem to be talking with someone agreeing with you for the most part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604972
>people
dont be a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605129
I wouldn't go that far, I just don't think they care to. I don't think Kiara got any either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605140
Sure but the people that would leave from gameplay to SC reading are the most likely to watch Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605147
grey

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605129
That's IRyS but Fauna is a close second

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604626
EN corpos are cucked, Vei and Silvervale dropped out so they can say retard and play trannie killing simulator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604892
Only a friend would do that for you

[Anonymous No.]

ITS
J
O
E
V
E
R

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605168
Yeah? It's gross and not something I would watch but it resonated with his demographic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604906
increasing would mean that your calculation is based on the current max. from May on she'll have 80k+ and until now it was something below.
according to the wiki, she had somewhere between 100k and 200k subscribers when she opened memberships in February compared to the current ~600k, so it's certainly not an average of 4.5k members over the past year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604718
>Ina gold
I think you mean Ironmouse

[Anonymous No.]

What if we don't get EN3 this year but some GAMERS like group of three girls. They don't have to be gamers. They could be just like Uproar. Just a group that is not defined as gen 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604850
>now

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605200
Kiara gets a lot of pride shit all year long. Helps that she's the one people actually think is really bi rather than just larping.

[Anonymous No.]

NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604956
Anon she povertybaits more than anyone in the company. Just a few weeks ago she claimed she couldn't afford takeout and couldn't afford to fix the busted dryer in her house. She lies to you, pretty boldfacedly, trying to wheedle donation money out of people.

You realize a very large number of her fans are convinced she's literally in poverty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604972
Stop shitposting on /vt/ Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604626
>CATALOG SPY HERE
How is this not in the catalog yet tho?

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry Fauna. I've been watching Kaela's Diablo IV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605394
already deleted

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605417

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605326
Are there drops for D4?

[Anonymous No.]

Any Twitch vtubers getting numbers right now other than Ironmouse?

[Anonymous No.]

Will Fauna raid Ina or will she reveal her jealousy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605073
if (you) personally like that type of shit, that's you. but personally, i think it's low tier and lazy content
why even put effort into ANYTHING if you can just put on a youtube video, put your cam/model in the corner of the stream and get views?
back in the day (yes i said it unironically) people like Jinx got shat on for doing the exact same thing streamers are doing today.
and personally, i would like to go back to that time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605491
henya
vei

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna gone...
Who do we watch now sapbros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605514
They have to be open to raid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605417
Sorry Fauna. I've been watching Blue Fauna's Diablo IV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605514
Fauna raids council only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605514
Shes going to raid lamy prime

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605491
Industry leading vtuber Sodapoppin is #1 right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605584
homos of course why even ask

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605584
your weight
you fat green fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605639
xqc not streaming?

[Anonymous No.]

Funnel doko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605651
Kill yourself beggar, I'm watching blue Lamy and Kaela

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605639
Never heard of him

[Anonymous No.]

King....

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605584
Saw positive reactions to Aki's live, so gonna watch at least some of it. Parade spam releases those happy chemicals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603873
Because they're desperate as fuck to make these guys a success, even at the expense of the girls.
It'd be one thing if they started at StarsJP level and then "inclined" to 1-2k but they started at 4-5k and dropped to 1k.
I wouldn't be surprised if they tied the bonuses of some people like Jap to the success of Tempus because companies usually do shit like that to incentivize them to bust their ass.
I think it's pretty embarrassing that in the same con where Mumei/Kronii filled a hall with over 2k capacity (including second level iirc), the most popular homos couldn't even fill up half of the first floor.
HoloEN gets merch spam but Tempus is getting voice packs instead cause there's no cost in making those.

[Anonymous No.]

Name a bigger raidbabby than Vei

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605705
Dude's twitch og

[Anonymous No.]

>mega buff fan game
>sub 7k
Fauna really fell off since her yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605679
Saplings are unreasonable. They got mad when I answered politely.

[Anonymous No.]

It's been a while since I last watched Lamy, does she speak in a deeper tone now or am I just schizoing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605663
nah but i bet he'll get 50k easily if he goes live today

[Anonymous No.]

Kaela and Ina got small funnels. homos got nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605762
the numbers don't lie
saplings can cope all they want

[Anonymous No.]

>>50600724
>Holofags don't care what's happening outside.
This
I hate to say it, but just watch Friend's totsu yesterday to see how much the "Holobox" as a concept affect JP
Like, the moment people knew there's no other Holo on call, they just fucking left
I like friend, and I know she's too much of a vet to give a shit about CCV, but it still hurts to look at

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604004
Lamy fucked up her PC at some point and I don't know if she managed to fix it, it would crash playing games and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605728
>Twitch
So a literal who

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605717
>director's bonus tied to Tempus's success
>costless voice pack
These are some interesting points

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605880
To be more relevant, he's Vei's boyfriend and since he's Twitch royalty Vei gets numbers from him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601708
I watched her collab with Kobo ... It was ... Something ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605584
I'm gonna watch Mori's ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>50603902
>unsubscribe from their current oshi
Doesn't really happen - instead they just become a "dead sub" (that likely still tunes in if there's nothing else going on)

[Anonymous No.]

>retards said Ina won't get it Gold
I fucking told you faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605856
A very good example indeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605584
Akis live again. I woke up early to watch before work and was very satisfied. A-kino does it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605928
Doesn't he own Mythic too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605992
stable octopus reigns supreme
sapcucks in shambles

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605201
>>50605047
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601302
>holoEN management tries to overcorrect the course
Why do they need to? Like, judging from the start of HoloEN's career, I have a nagging feeling that this is the expected number they have for the branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604626
Phasetrannies wasn't a joke huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605478
Not until the general release

[Anonymous No.]

Cover and Anycolor both up 5%+ today

[Anonymous No.]

sapcucks...

[Anonymous No.]

EN3

[Anonymous No.]

So uh, Diablo4 a buff, debuff or neutral?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50601637
>in the early days of the JP Vtubing industry the entire community worked together to cultivate it
Lol, lmao even
Just because you don't browse NND doesn't mean it's different from Twitch anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606043
No, but he is signed with them

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/V4Mirai/status/1664436712515440640
Brave Group joins into EN market battle

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
hory shieeet

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
JP7

[Anonymous No.]

>Gets beat the entire overlap
>One ends and the other recieves a funnel
>This is shitpost worthy
You guys must lead depressing lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
Believe in the sister gens

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
Are they good? Never watched them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604956
>>50605344
Enna povertybaiting. She is notorious for doing this.

"I can't stop streaming or I won't afford my rent"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxRsF4GiOaU&t=13930
Enna implying she's close to homelessness and scares her chat
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxRsF4GiOaU&t=17994
Says she can't afford a car. Also said this in a more recent stream
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gBjiMSkZlM&t=16620
Says that she "toughs out the cold" in the winter because the heater is too expensive
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYZMc5hq3KU&t=1016
"My phone is old and I have very little data" more povertybaiting
>https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1618098563636133890
"I'm trying to save up money"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWO42rEnYg&t=15568
Can't fix the dryer because "I'm on a budget this month"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWO42rEnYg&t=15615
can't afford to buy this food because "I'm trying to save money"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWO42rEnYg&t=16040
In the past Enna begged for rent money, and then shortly after left for a 3 week European vacation across multiple European countries. That's the kind of person she is.

Enna lets the truth slip a bit when she says stuff like this:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mwBboNR5Z4&t=15191

Enna also does graduationbaiting pretty much every stream. She even hinted she would kill herself a couple times to bait sympathy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605856
The issue is HoloJP can dominate everybody with box viewership alone. HoloEN’s box is pretty pathetic state right now and the only one who seems to be trying to grow it is Bae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
ah ah ah ah

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
do what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS! I KNEW IT! THEY PASSED HOLOAUDITION

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
Wait, that's irl them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605992
did she even get it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
>No VSPO management
How long until Brave kills them with their retarded management?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
>Brave Group, known for JP Vtuber groups like VSPO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606265
>inb4 it's idolcorp

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
They have to live either in Japan or close enough right? Otherwise, FPS collabs should be impossible and that's VsPo's main niche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602272
Yeah, but not for the reason people /here/ think

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606301
It's doing that edging shit but she will

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
So it's not exactly VSPO? Not sure this piecemeal approach is the best idea. Probably end up dead in the water like Prism Project. They need to go all in and make like a 3-5 person Gen and straight up call it VSPO EN, and try to get the best talents they can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606226
Very good, I'm confused no small corpo trying to poach them. Turn out both of them probably get into EN3 or JP7

[Anonymous No.]

>>50604626
this tweet reeks of poor knockoffs of vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605992
>>50606058
>>50606124
>>50606219
>comparing fan game buff to Zelda part 12 giga debuff
>caring this much about cripple wheelchair EN tally

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
>>50606165
>Two girls debut
Coincidence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606343
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
More tempus collabers, nice!

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
What's difference between Brave Group and VSPO? They still fall under the same management and concept right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
I can't believe Moom went on break to smother another vtuber group in the crib rigght after buying out 774inc

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606244
Fauna is trying to build the Council box though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606301
Highest I saw was 5950, but I'm not looking at the numberfag sites. Currently she's around 5.9k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606369
>isreal
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606154
Neutral right now, debuff a couple days from now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
imagine it's idol corp or fucking VSPO
i think I'd probably cry from sadness

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
>no VSPO branding
>chocolate skin
it's doomed to fail

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606388
Brave Group is a holding company, VSPO is a vtuber brand that they own. They also own different vtuber groups. They all have their own organizational structures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606323(me)
Nvm, brain read VsPo-like, instead of like Vspo. I need sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606353
>into EN3 or JP7
>or
1 each

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
FUCKING FINALLY. NIJIGAMERS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN SISTERS CHUUBA

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606362
Every single stream except the one that got raided did poorly, it's baffling that you faggots are pretending that the CouncilRyS RPG is some gigabuff game

[Anonymous No.]

>>50602681
By your logic anon, the wouldn't have invested more into ID

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606388
VSPO is owned by Brave Group but Brave group doesn't interfere with VSPO's management.
These two girls might be fucked if they're directly managed by Brave group (who brought you such classics as the gamebu scandal).

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606226
unicorn safety space and love idol culture

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1664220223866826753
I know Mumei does her cute schizo thing because Korone is her oshi but will her ever do watchalong for fucked up movies like Korone does?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606353
It would be funny if EN3 and J7 were launched as sister gens and one was in each branch.

[Anonymous No.]

So did Kiara touch on what her “what the FUCK kind of morning” tweet was about? I’m probably not gonna have time to watch the stream till Sunday but im curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606148
>>50606165
NO NO NO NO NO NO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606369
they wouldn't accept non cunny avatars

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606411
>Fauna is trying to build the Council box though.
Council has 4 people. But Fauna was reluctant to play 4 players among us. Checkmate.
this is a sarcasm post btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
>Brave Group, known for JP Vtuber groups like VSPO!
So Brave is always going to take credit for VSP0s success, huh? Does it make sense as they only acquired them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
>Not even 1000 views
Holy grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
The EN fps community is dogshit. They won't be able to leech to anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606521
>gamebu
Oh... Well good luck to them I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606533
She should watch wrong turn

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606544
Probably some dumb bullshit, Kiara's dramas are always basically nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606601
Actually all this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
https://twitter.com/AbiKadabura
https://twitter.com/SerinaMaiko
New girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606433
>imagine wanting to be an idol in 2023

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606320
Those fags are probably the ones shitposting in here on clockwork.

[Anonymous No.]

Did Kiara spill anything interesting in her previous stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
pretty dumb, why not just Buisupo EN? VSPO has their own niche, their EN brand can follow suit

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606605
Are there even any notable EN female FPS streamers, even flesh ones?

[Anonymous No.]

Bae being a runt must be a curse or something... There is no way she still has lower subs than fauna after leeching off every JPmem and sliding cocks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606472
>>50606362
falseflagger cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606521
VSPO is already fucked though
>no lewds
>no clips
>muh 30min 3d debut
They live by leeching on Niji and Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606672
VSPO management will release their own EN branch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606598
It doesn't have to make sense, it's marketing. Movies do it too, they grab some 3rd tier associate producer who worked on a popular movie and then put "from the people who made Popular_Movie" on the poster and trailer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606544
i heard the food she bought came spoiled but i dont know if he was just shitting

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606165
Are you hyped?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606672
Because VSPO has nothing to do with this English branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606697
Too unhinged
Too chaotic

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606694
Pokimane?

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna funneled into Lamy? weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606759
Not really. These over-designed models suck. They could've gone for a simpler aesthetic like Qpi for the brown girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50605639
he had more viewers playing the 20 year old version of wow a couple hours earlier

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606785
Why would it be weird for Lamy to funnel into Lamy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606694
those girls that say uwu for kills on valorant maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606775
Since when is Pokimane considered a FPS streamer? Isn't she just an ethot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606712
also leech from pro players

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606785
Why is that weird? We've seen multi branch funnels before, including into EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606759
left looks like shit. Right is not bad.

[Anonymous No.]

okay first off, those girls aren't THAT into FPS to join VSPO
secondly, they wouldn't be feeling teary eyed for getting into idol corp that was gonna debut this week or last week. (or was that phase)
but... you can't leave out the possibility of a secret niji gen coming out of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50606521
>Escaped from GGN and bamboo hell
>Walk straight into gamebu 2.0 hell
no...

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>>50606411
>Minecraft (again)
>fan game after everyone else has already played it
>FotM game weeks after it was FotM
>Hitman (again)

Fauna is part of the problem.

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>>50606344
be really funny if she doesn't

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>>50606697
>>50606768
>falseflagging as deflecting sapling
Sister please...

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>>50606785
>Fauna funneled into Lamy? weird
How is green lamy funneling to blue lamy weird?

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>>50606914
>MC bad
>Hitman bad
Retard

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>>50606914
>Mineraft Bad
Are you mentally ill

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>>50606148

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>>50606914
This is a fairly weak schedule, but are you really complaining about Minecraft?

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>>50606915
Just did. Fuck off.

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>>50606914
But she still got better ccv than everyone else...

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Anons, have all version of Lamys collabed before?

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>>50606785
she didn't
why lie?

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>>50606914
Fuck off. I like her Hitman streams.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna's cripple gold status?

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>>50606809
who else is streaming?

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>>50606411
Ah yes with all those collabs Fauna organises. No raiding Baesona part 18 isn’t “building a box”.

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>>50604626
Feels half sarcastic to me

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INA GOLD GET
DORYAAAAAAA

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>>50607052
How technical do you want to get? The closest was Koyori doing her clip review show with Lamy (and someone else that I don't recall) and watching Fauna's truck clip.

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>>50607067
Ironmouse won anyway in the real tally so it doesn’t matter

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>>50607067
Niji cripple tally status?

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Fauna can't even beat Zelda...

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>>50606712
>They live by leeching on Niji and Holos.
>EN Nijis
>EN Holos
oof

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>>50606148
>>50606165
What a waste. Imagine being happy about Brave Group's EN abomination. They'll be lucky if management doesn't kill the project within the year.

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>>50607057
Yeah and I’m sure if you asked KFP/teamates/takos they’d say they loved their Zelda streams. And deadbeats would probably gush over Mori’s Persona 3 streams.

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>2+ billion "English" speakers
>50 million indospeakers
>cresting 3k
>120 million Japanese speakers
>10k plus
?

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>>50607101
Shit. guess it's time to don my JPchad cloak. ENSHARTS!!

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>>50606148
>>50606165
Hololive rejects

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>>50607145
>the real tally?
you mean global tally? probably vspo 3d will win, retard

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>>50607187
Can you imagine an entire English branch dedicated solely to leeching Selen, Aster, Maria, and like 2 people from Tempus? And uh...Froot?

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>>50607216
I HATE Ina’s Zelda streams
t. Tako

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>>50607166
Fauna only beat Ina because Ina already debuffed herself by saying she doesn't like her fans. The "not your friend" yab evened the playing field. Ina is rightfully the no. 2 of HoloEN

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>>50606727
>HOLOSTAR, from the people who created hololive

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I'm watching blue fauna kiting enemies.....and I eagerly want to do it for her.

[Anonymous No.]

When did Lamy become the RPG vtuber? For someone who hasn't touched games before her choices are pretty old.

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>>50606694
Why female only?

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>>50606759
right looks like shit, left not bad.

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>>50604004
>>50604191
Kaela also got fucked by it in the beta version
Contrary, Lamy was fine in the beta IIRC

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>>50607325
That's why they're called HOLOstar instead of something else.

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>>50607399
>Lamy was fine in the beta IIRC
you don't

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>>50607254
You're supposed to say that the cripple tally is irrelevant anon. 1/10

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>>50607383
VSPO doesn't have males, you're thinking of Neo Porte probably.

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>>50606759
The one on the left looks like a bootleg kaf

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>>50607052
>>50607132 (me)
this is as close as you're getting https://youtu.be/nkzW3MlewHM?t=15250

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Has any council managed to get global tally in 2023?

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>>50607246
>over 1 billion Indians
>NijiIN 0views because they shut the fucking branch

[Anonymous No.]

remember, if your oshi's rm is cute she has more probability to join hololive

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>>50606165
Both will be bilinguals

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>>50607166
Fauna was literally beating Zelda up until she was forced to end to attend a meeting. If no one fucking funneled you retards would be doomposting.

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>>50607492
indians don't watch anime much less vtubers

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>>50607166
Oh nyooo how did my shy introvert kirin with 731k subs lose to the best artist octopus with 1.52m subs???????

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607246
I will never stop laughing at this retarded "there's more people speaking this language therefore they should all want this product" argument

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>>50607067
Damn she beat Ironlung for the cripple fanfic fantasy gold? Zelda inclining

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>>50607540
cope

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>>50607166
we lost sapkeks...

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>>50607520
EN...ID...

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>>50606533
minchair dog

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>>50607540
What do Indians actually do for fun except watch cricket? I never see them in online games either.

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>>50607554
>Shoud want
It means they can gather more potential customers under one umbrella. It's just marketing. If they can't turn these people into customers, they just didn't market right.

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>>50607554
>water is on the ground
>rains
>water flows in creeks and rivers
>7 billion people still buy water

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607166
shouldn't have gone 'not your friends'

[Anonymous No.]

Diablo4 on top of vrabi right now but somehow Lamy is number1

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607216
To be fair im not a huge fan of Faunas Bioshock streams. You cant tell she doesnt like it but is forcing herself to continue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607485
Big thanks for this kino moment.
Incidentally I noticed they have curly hair at the same spot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607489
No

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>>50607584
>>50607637
idk probably watch bollywood and hollywood movies but anime never caught on there besides the real normie shonen shit probably

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>>50607535
>>50607551
>coping

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>>50607489
You mean global gold? No. Just hitting the tally? Yes.

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>>50607667
>bottled water
HoloJP
>sewer brown water
HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607383
Because Brave Group is not dumb
RIOT and VSPO are both female only
Female vtubers > Flesh females
Flesh males > Male vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607803
>>50607760
thanks im too lazy to check so ill believe you

[Anonymous No.]

I guess they were happy about this, not a debut.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any vtuber more proficient at simultaneously entertaining both an English and Japanese audience in their streams than Henya?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607880
Anya

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>>50607880

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607880
IRyS

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>>50607596
forgot to say adorable too

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607831
>Female vtubers > Flesh females
Okay. Pornhub has more anime than flesh. I get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607847
>White Album
they like cucking girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607880
IRyS
I find that henya makes for good clips but her actual streams are pretty meh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607880
only Mr Koro

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607923
why did she do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607880
Yeah. Pekora, Korone, Luna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607847
F kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607880
Mr Paradise

[Anonymous No.]

>>50607880
Kiara
sorry kek

[Anonymous No.]

Vtubers for this feel?