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>> No.50529181
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.50529187

FOOL
WE WERE FREE FROM THIS HELL

>> No.50529206
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50529206

Wich one?

>> No.50529217

We're so fucking dead

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50529232

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>64,036: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,343: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,198: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,926: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,889: Fubuki (Hololive)
>18,911: Fubuki (Hololive)
>18,805: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>16,651: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>16,048: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>14,576: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>13,442: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,410: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,709: Watame (Hololive)
>11,628: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>10,691: Salome (Nijisanji)
>10,664: Chiroru (Indie)
>10,231: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,227: Koyori (Hololive)

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>>50529232
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament
7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 2
8) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown
9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown
10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)
11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time
12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut
13) Mel (Hololive) - 58,589 - 5th Anniversary 3D Live
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,892 - Minecraft 1.20
15) Subaru (Hololive) - 52,757 - Marshmallow Reading + Announcement
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,970 - Chat GPT
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 81,111 - Sausage Legend Competition
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 94,193 - Birthday 3D Live
19) Towa (Hololive) - 82,943 - God Field Tournament
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,748 - Minecraft
21) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,131 - I'm on Observation Duty 5
22) Nose (VSPO) - 136,222 - 3D Debut
23) Subaru (Hololive) - 86,363 - Outfit Reveal
24) Miko (Hololive) - 56,059 - Minecraft
25) Laplus (Hololive) - 80,541 - Birthday 3D Live
26) Kanato (Nijisanji) - 68,004 - 3D Debut
27) Aki (Hololive) - 65,938 - Birthday 3D Live
28) Lui (Hololive) - 51,167 - Horse Racing Club (w/ Koyori, Botan, Pekora)
29) Miko (Hololive) - 43,933 - The Outlast Trials (w/ Fubuki)
30) Shigure Ui (Indie) - 50,287 - Birthday Totsumachi
31) Pekora (Hololive) - 64,036 - Haircut Reveal

> PER COMPANY
27x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie, VSPO

> PER STREAMER
7x: Miko, Pekora
3x: Marine, Subaru
1x: Aki, Chloe, Hibari, Kanato, Koyori, Laplus, Lui, Mel, Nose, Towa, Ui

> 2023 GOLDS
> PER COMPANY
116x: Hololive
24x: Nijisanji
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
2x: VSPO

> PER STREAMER
42x: Pekora
15x: Miko
13x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
4x: Hal
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori, Towa
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome
1x: Aki, Aqua, Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Lui, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Ui, Watame, Yashiro

>> No.50529305

What are the chance that HoloPro account celebrate Pride Month?

>> No.50529338

>>50529206
Kanata, Ina, La+, Shion, Gura in that order.

>> No.50529353
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50529353

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>5/31 DAILY TALLY
8,630: Fauna (Hololive)
7,716: Ina (Hololive)
7,001: IRyS (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft
10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke
11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)
12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)
13) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,884 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,114 - Pikuniku (w/ Gura)
15) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,493 - CHADcast
16) Finana (Nijisanji) - 6,991 - Unarchived Karaoke (w/ Pomu & Elira)
17) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,197 - Valkyrie Connect (w/ Kronii)
18) Mori (Hololive) - 12,008 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Subaru & Botan)
19) Mori (Hololive) - 11,130 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)
20) Mori (Hololive) - 10,629 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)
21) Ina (Hololive) - 18,722 - Birthday Stream
22) Baelz (Hololive) - 7,457 - Unarchived Karaoke
23) Baelz (Hololive) - 16,717 - Genital Jousting
24) Kronii (Hololive) - 9,914 - Minecraft
25) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,727 - ASMR (w/ Ike)
26) Kronii (Hololive) - 10,381 - 3D Zatsudan
27) Kronii (Hololive) - 17,250 - Council Mario Party Collab
28) Gura (Hololive) - 21,083 - Outlast Trials (w/ Fauna, Kronii, Mori)
29) Ina (Hololive) - 6,731 - Breath of the Wild
30) Mumei (Hololive) - 16,342 - Karaoke
31) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,630 - Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
27x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: IRyS
4x: Mori, Fauna
3x: Kronii, Mumei
2x: Baelz, Vox, Gura, Ina
1x: Luca, Amelia, Kiara, Finana

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
40p: IRyS
33p: Ina
31p: Mori
30p: Fauna
25p: Mumei
21p: Baelz
18p: Kronii
12p: Kiara
10p: Vox, Gura
9p: Shu
6p: Amelia
5p: Luca, Finana
4p: Ike
3p: Elira, Enna
2p: Bettel
1p: Pomu

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>>50529305
Like a 5% anon, they arent that stupid.

>> No.50529360

Drama?

>> No.50529372

>>50529305
If the rrat about Omegalul being there is true, it wouldn't surprise me he'd try to do it.

>> No.50529400

>>50529353
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
111x: Hololive
38x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
16x: Mori
14x: IRyS
13x: Fauna
11x: Baelz, Gura, Mumei
10x: Kronii, Ina
9x: Vox
8x: Amelia
6x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca, Finana
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
142p: Fauna
117p: IRyS
116p: Ina
114p: Mori
103p: Mumei
100p: Baelz
74p: Vox
65p: Kronii
61p: Amelia
60p: Kiara
55p: Gura
53p: Mysta
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
27p: Shu
17p: Pomu
14p: Ike
13p: Finana
12p: Enna
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Elira
9p: Millie, Fulgur
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka, Bettel
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>> No.50529411

>>50529206
the one that looks like a boy the most

>> No.50529452

Axel going for raspberry gold

>> No.50529455

>>50529372
Nah, someone'll just slip out a "support the cause" during stream instead

>> No.50529457
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>>50529400
>MAY EN SILVERS PER COMPANY
24x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji
NOTE: There were 2 days this month where nobody earned a silver

>PER STREAMER
5x: Ina
4x: IRyS
3x: Mumei, Mori, Fauna, Baelz
2x: Shu, Kiara
1x: Elira, Enna, Ike, Kronii

>MAY EN BRONZES PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars
NOTE: There were 5 days this month where nobody earned a bronze

>PER STREAMER
8x: Ina
3x: Shu, IRyS
2x: Baelz, Mori, Bettel
1x: Kiara, Mumei, Amelia, Ike, Pomu, Fauna
>2023 EN SILVERS PER COMPANY
101x: Hololive
42x: Nijisanji
6x: Holostars
NOTE: There were 2 days this year where nobody earned a silver

>PER STREAMER
22x: Fauna
17x: Ina
13x: Mumei, IRyS
12x: Baelz
10x: Luca
8x: Kiara, Mori
7x: Mysta, Vox
5x: Amelia
3x: Uki, Axel, Kronii
2x: Selen, Sonny, Shu, Enna, Ike
1x: Hakka, Millie, Magni, Vesper, Finana, Fulgur, Kotoka, Elira

>2023 EN BRONZES PER COMPANY
80x: Hololive
46x: Nijisanji
9x: Holostars
1x: Phase Connect
NOTE: There were 15 days this year where nobody earned a bronze

>PER STREAMER
15x: Ina
11x: Fauna
10x: Mori
9x: Baelz, Mumei
8x: Vox, IRyS
7x: Mysta
6x: Kronii, Kiara, Amelia, Shu
5x: Selen
3x: Luca, Ike, Bettel
2x: Regis, Uki, Axel, Elira, Pomu
1x: Meloco, Shinri, Enna, Vesper, Millie, Maria, Pippa, Rosemi, Nina, Ren, Fulgur

>> No.50529465

/#/ do you think the hard working myth members like mori and kiara resent the fact that the lazy ones like gura and ina are popular and basically don't have to do much to stay a float compare to them.

>> No.50529476
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50529476

>No fauna
>No ina
>No gura (probably)
It's gonna be a GRIM day

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>>50529452
Incredibly BASED and IMPRESSIVE

>> No.50529547

>>50529488
>>50529452
He might still slip, he should have made it a japanese stream to lock in his gold

>> No.50529573

>>50529465
Hard work dosent mean shit if you are boring as hell, say whatever you want but gura dosent just get 20K's for being cute.

>> No.50529583

>>50529476
I'm going through CGDCT withdrawal, my hands are shaking and I just vomited even though I haven't eaten anything since Minecraft M'Tuesday...

>> No.50529587

>>50529452
>>50529488
What was the worst performing stream that these homos had this month? It got to be a fight between dingo and red faggot, right?

>> No.50529591
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50529591

I didn't expect it to reflect on her number this quickly. It took months for Kronii to recline from the homo collab.

>> No.50529606

>>50529465
Kiara can't bring herself to resent her coworkers, or any holo really, and Mori knows that her lower numbers are partially self-inflicted. I say psrtislly because even she is hurt by the lack of EN3 and its replacement.

>> No.50529623

>>50529452
Call me a newfag, but what is this one about?

>> No.50529625

Homos can’t play outlast either so there goes that.

>> No.50529654

>>50529623
Raspberry gold is lowest stream of the day. Was a fun shitposting tally from summer 2022 when Aia and Scarle were competing to plunge new depths on a constant basis.

>> No.50529662

>>50529625
Is the penis game still allowed tough? Isnt that like 10 times worse?

>> No.50529673

>>50529465
>/#/ do you think the hard working Gen2 members like choco and subaru resent the fact that the lazy ones like shion and ayame are popular and basically don't have to do much to stay a float compare to them.

>> No.50529672

>>50529591
Not to mention she only get slightly better number compare to Kronii for the Outlast collab.

>> No.50529690

>>50529206
Ina and Kanata aren’t cunny they’re just flatchested. What a retarded image.

>> No.50529703

>>50529623
basically who has the lowest number of the day and don't worry about being called a newfag since it just started recently and is inconsistent.

>> No.50529722

>>50529625
Management won't be THAT biased. It's straight up impossible, and if they somehow let holostars play it they'd get burned by fans, holos, and even stars alike.

>> No.50529737

>>50529591
Fauna is going to take a deep decline in ccv. Next month 2k, I am ready

>> No.50529757

>>50528606
The guy I responded to said top 3 are Gura Ina Fauna so it seemed like overall. That’s still wrong though third most consistent with viewers is Kiara

>> No.50529756

>>50529606
I doubt even the Rrat is happy with the current situation of EN.

>> No.50529761

>>50529591
>throwing all those numbers away for a single speech
Kinda sad ngl

>> No.50529769

>>50529591
sister, your pride month is coming.... arent you busy with that??

>> No.50529788

>>50529206
Gura, Kanata, Ina, Shion, La+ at the same time

>> No.50529792

>>50529672
Only thing she is good at... is squatting on a timeslot.

>> No.50529797

>>50529187
I THOUGHT WE WERE DEAD

>> No.50529806

Did something happen for the sister to already start this timeloop or it's just peak retarded hours?

>> No.50529816

>>50529769
I might be going schizo but im afraid one of the fags is gonna start bringing their pride shit into holo.

>> No.50529821

>>50529757
Anon, they mean consistent and high CCV. You almost sound like a social moron, but only almost.

>> No.50529826

>>50529737
You know we can all tell you’re trying to set up some OHNONONO NIJINIGGERS You SAID FAUNA WOULD GO 2K SAPCHADS KEEP WINNING right?

>> No.50529832

>>50529806
Well, going by the end of last thread, SEA woke up.

>> No.50529834

>>50529737
I bet you are as ready as when she threw out that speech in the middle of SC reading.

>> No.50529840

>>50529206
I'll go with the classic GuraShion

>> No.50529848

>>50529806
They like to take a crack at various topics with a little samefagging when a new thread is started, to see if they can spawn some discussion and timelooping

>> No.50529856

>>50529816
Rio is a they, according to red shits

>> No.50529875

>>50529606
Wow a newfag

>>50529673
Subaru one of the top 5 most popular members in hololive?

>> No.50529877

>>50528811
It's actually surprising/unexpected (both big and small) numbers that are interesting to discuss.
Can we finally get empty cripple?

>> No.50529878

>>50529305
>>50529372
>>50529455
Stop samefagging to lower the quality of the thread.

>> No.50529902

>>50529878
samefagchama...

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>>50529832
But it's like 5AM at the earliest there.

>>50529848
We do a little same-fagging here.

>> No.50529906

>>50529826
I am sorry to give you that impression. I am just messing with the guy. I would be impressed to actually see something

>> No.50529912

>>50529353
WTF no one in nijisanji streamed today?

>> No.50529922

>>50529591
Neck yourself, Nijisis.

>> No.50529923

>>50529206
Lacunny needs some serious correction

>> No.50529924

>>50529856
which is fucking retarded since Rio is a male and considers himself a male.

>> No.50529932

>>50529903
Well, the anon did say he just woke up at 5am...

>> No.50529934

>>50529806
They've been going at it all day really... One of the early morning threads was nothing but doxx shit

>> No.50529940

>>50529761
>a 10 dollar SC
at that

>> No.50529955

>>50529912
Didnt they have a "CGDCT" collab yesterday? Was it that bad?

>> No.50529973

>>50529924
So true sister, trans men are men!!

>> No.50529976

>>50529878
Excuse me? I only wrote the last reply in there.

>> No.50529977

>>50529955
Do you consider Uki a cute girl?

>> No.50529982

>>50529305
Doubtful but I don't put anything past them
Homos on an individual level definitely will in terms of wishing people happy pride month when the inevitable superchats about it start coming in and what not

>> No.50529984

>>50529922
>showing numbers
>"oh nonono you can't do that or else you are a nijisis!"
Not to mention the MC stream is in the tally today so it is on topic.

>> No.50529989

>>50529924
The also implied something like that with Kairu and Kira. Dude has the brain worms

>> No.50530011

>>50529934
I remember that one, it was a mix of the most basic dox imaginable and a shit ton of porn.

>> No.50530031

>>50529973
The fuck?

>> No.50530039

>>50529984
You're too transparent, Nijifag.

>> No.50530047

>>50529924
I see people dance around this topic sometimes and I have no idea if it's shitposting or if it's an actual Yugo situation

>> No.50530085

>>50529806
Niji sisters stopped watching more than one Luxiem member so they have free time to shit themselves while the branch reclines.

>> No.50530087

>>50530047
He has a high voice and has a somewhat feminine design, but he is very much a man.

>> No.50530109

>>50530047
Oga has said he is a dude and I trust him on this. Some guys are just born with a very feminine voice

>> No.50530123

>>50530047
Rio is a guy with a girly voice, so it’s a bit of a bitch move for someone in his own company to call him an “it”, especially since they’re a pronoun person.

>> No.50530143

>>50530047
Regardless of what Rio's rm is the character is male since Holostars is all-male. Calling him a "they" is fucking retarded.

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>was talking about homos all thread last thread
>immediately trying to deflect to niji the moment her low numbers are mentioned
So Vespling is really a thing, apparently.

>> No.50530181

>>50529875
Yeah, I thought twice about putting Subaru in. But my point is still valid, especially when you include aqua. Imagine streaming once a month and getting similar(shion and ayame) or even better ccv than subaru. Hololive had the problem since the begininnig, Do you have issues with it? Hololive is not for you and the whole entertaining industry. So you are either a giant retard or a nijinigger.

>> No.50530197

>>50529821
>They mean
I didn’t know you could read minds guess what I’m thinking. If you didn’t answer imbecile you’re not very good at it. Guy I responded to said Top 3 are these three and then the next anon said consistent viewership. Neither of these two used highest or consistent together.

>> No.50530213

>>50529932
>5am
>half an hour ago
That must be JP/KR time, anon.

>> No.50530255

I guess some SEA are early birds huh? I hope you have good luck grinding those (you)'s pagpag

>> No.50530260

>>50530213
He might be like me and wakes up at 4-5 AM. I'm a mountain Euro, though.

>> No.50530268

>>50529989
God I hate these fucking faggots that speak for others even when those people they speak for are telling them no your wrong.
>>50530047
no it's just a bunch or retards that think that just because his voice is feminine means he wants to be a girl even when he has said he's a male.

>> No.50530313

>>50528788
You say this but every time a YouTube primary streamer has streamed on Twitch, their numbers have basically been about the same or worse. Look at Ame’s ccv average on Twitch vs YouTube for example. Was a bit higher than her usual YT peak the first time she did it, but every time since her numbers have actually been lower than her YT average.

If there is any viewership buff on Twitch as compared to YT, it’s so slight that you can probably chalk it up to Twitch having a userbase that is explicitly there to watch livestreams where as the vast majority of YouTube’s userbase watches pre-recorded content.

>> No.50530353

>>50530181
I get your point Subaru was just a weird choice. Besides Aqua, Shion, Gura, Ayame all streamed really consistently their first or second year so it’s not like they started this way like Kronii

>> No.50530368

Could a deranged /vt/ sister make it as a vtuber? The kind who seethes nonstop about girls

>> No.50530429

>>50530368
As a vtuber? Sure. In a corpo? No.

>> No.50530462

>>50530313
Just look at the votes. On twitch you are lucky to hit half of your viewer. On yt you are lucky when you have less voter than viewer

>> No.50530486

>>50530313
Why didn’t you also bring up the reverse?

>> No.50530493

>>50530179
Damn, no wonder faunaposting and homo-discussion go hand in hand.

>> No.50530505

>>50529149
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>> No.50530518

>>50530313
Switching platforms is obviously going to hurt your numbers unless you commit to a long-term change. A better example is Twitch streamers who went to Youtube. Look at Ludwig, Pokimane, etc. They generally had large declines

>> No.50530564

>>50529353
Nijisanji didn't stream, huh?
No wonder they are reclining

>> No.50530600

>>50530493
Damn, samefagging

>> No.50530621

>>50529591
Yeah, as discussed during Kronii's debacle, things like this usually took time to reflect on their numbers, I wonder what makes it this fast this time around. It is less than a month from the incident so I am still observing instead of drawing conclusion right now.

>> No.50530672

>>50530600
Link both posts so I can show you my (You).

>> No.50530683

>>50530368
>>50530429
Is she American or from Americanized? I don’t know the actual title but there are streamers and content creators (hate that title) that do that content. Some do it in a mean spirited way but generally it’s a water cooler vibe. You complain about your boss but don’t outright hate them. A vtuber complaining about annoying ticks of vtubers but not actually attacking them would be popular.

>> No.50530691

https://youtu.be/rKXhwj4qr9g?t=3997
>Pomu says parasocial is a buzzword and not a bad thing, members get mad in chat
Sad

>> No.50530714

>>50530313
That always happends tho. Did you remember the whole ordeal about some streaming company paying Ninja a million buckaroos to switch and it turns out no one followed him on a new platform? Or all the Twitch streamer YT bought recently just for half of them to completely die off?

>> No.50530724

>>50529591
>>50530621
You might not be the same person but you two sure speak the same way, kinda like people on Reddit.

>> No.50530726

>>50530691
pic or didn't happen

>> No.50530739

>>50530564
>4x nijisanji in cripple
>2x nijisanji in the real tally
Pathetic showing from EN.

>> No.50530747

>>50530691
Was pomu the PARASOCIAL FUCKS one?

>> No.50530746

>>50530691
Nijiniggers having internal conflicts is normal

>> No.50530752

>>50530683 (me)
Flip the beginning I’m tired

>> No.50530762

>>50530179
>t.Nijifag

>> No.50530777

>>50530747
nope, that was retarded fish.

>> No.50530788

>>50530724
No, I am not from global.

>> No.50530791

>>50530747
No that was Finana "The word Trap is a slur, educate yoruself" I forgot her last name.

>> No.50530816

>>50530726
Similar situation happened with miori having a melty towards half her chat not taking her advances seriously

>> No.50530838

>>50530739
Yea, just disband NijiEN

>> No.50530850

>>50530462
See my second point. This is explained by Youtube having a much larger viewerbase but on average way more transient and having less patience for watching long streams compared to Twitch viewers. Youtube vs TikTok viewers is the same story but with the shoe on the other foot, with TikTok videos amassing an insane amount of views compared to YT.

>> No.50530857
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50530857

With the month's end, here are the "usual tables"
>30 DAYS MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, KAIGAI ONLY, MAY 2023
As usual, five (5) or more streams to qualify for these tables
>which, among others, excludes Gura's 2 public streams in her channel and her 17,447 median and 14,099 average

Some comments

1) Fauna finishes as #1 in the median table, repeating her feat of March 2023.
Ina finishes as #1 for the average, being the one to hold that position in all of the 2023 months so far.
2) Mumei is the other Holo to complete the top 3, being #3 in the median and #2 in the average
3) Kronii and IRyS complete the top 5 in both tables, in alternating order
4) The highest ranked NijiEN in both tables is Shu, in both cases under 5k
5) The Kiara line held strong in both tables and Moona as well finished the month ahead of every NijiEN girl
6) The highest median for the Holostars went for Vesper, 1799. The highest average for Bettel, 1844.
7) Pippa finished the month with a 2.6k median, and Rin Penrose, 1.2k. Both also sport a four digits average
8) Shinri, Hakka, Axel and Flayon, plus Scarle, Finana, Vermillion, Aia and Aster finished the month with a 3 views median
9) The ranks of the kaigai tables grow steadily, with 149 tracked channels.
It is one of the only things growing in it tho, because both the #1 median and the #1 average being the lowest no record, for the first time either below 8k

and the punchline
10) DaCapo, from the Thai vtuber group Algorhythm Project (ARP) is the highest ranked male vtuber of the tracked kaigai ones, surpassing all of Luxiem for the feat.
His company mates are very well positioned too, with Baabel outranking Vox and Ike and Schneider outranking all non Luxiem males.

Maybe Luxiem dropped a segment of the audience from that region and the ARP guys picked them up?

>> No.50530886

>>50530726
There's a timestamp anon

>> No.50530923

>>50530788
No no, sorry, I didn't mean that you speak like a Reddit user, but that you two, just like they do, write exactly same way. Like you might all be clones of each other.

>> No.50530927

>>50530886
sorry, i only can see at 144p

>> No.50530980

>>50530816
Chat tries to get good boy points by being against it even if the vtuber insists on it.
It’s like when the girl asks chat if X is a bad idea and they all go “it’s a good idea!” and then run to discord and talk about how it’s a terrible idea.

>> No.50530982

>>50530791
Ryugu which I actually think is one of the best vtuber puns? lore? Idk but I like the idea of a fish vtuber with a dragon last name. Would fit perfectly in hololive. On her 3D debut her room has an underwater dragon style instead of completely fish themed

>> No.50530989

>>50530923
I get it, you are trying to say "you are samefagging" but couldn't find the words for it.

>> No.50531003

>>50530857
Damn imagine being as big of a numbernigger as IRyS only to be slightly better than Kronii who doesn't even seem to give a fuck. Also below someone spamming Zelda.

>> No.50531030

Why was the reason holomems couldn't play darkest dungeon?

>> No.50531041

>>50530857
How is Enna stronger than Selen and Pomu for peak and average ccv?

>> No.50531045

>>50530982
what's the pun?

>> No.50531051

>>50530989
Nah, I believe that you aren't doing that. Just saying that you all are the same.

>> No.50531055

>>50530691
I'm not giving Nijis views.

>> No.50531064

>>50531030
Just perms

>> No.50531080

Anyone else finds it funny how EN homos not only managed to fuck up all of their amazingly high goodwill but also most of JP one?

>> No.50531083

>>50530518
>Ludwig had a large decline

Not really. Looking through his Twitch stats, the vast majority of his content on Twitch at the height of his popularity usually ranged from 14k-24k which is literally the same as his numbers on YT.

>> No.50531095

>>50529591
>already a bait thread in catalog for this
kek

>> No.50531099

>>50531041
We don't call'em cucksanji for nothing.

>> No.50531114

>>50531064
about "what? perms to stream? fax? kek *ignores*"?

>> No.50531117

>>50530857
>DaCapo
Literally fucking who? Heard this name in this thread before but how come it just parachuted at the top of the table?
>Mogging Luxiem
kek

>> No.50531153

>>50531045
In Japanese folklore or mythology the carp that can swim upstream and jump the gates can become a dragon. She’s a fish and her last name uses Ryu which is dragon. I’ve always liked it

>> No.50531157

>orange tempiss playing valorant now because the jap fps girls are moving over to valorant
I am 100% sure this nigger is a sex pest

>> No.50531162

>>50531117
thai chuubas are stronger than chinese chuubas

>> No.50531173

>>50529591
Assuming it's actually related then it's probably people just checking out from EN in general, there's not much of worth left there what with Mumei fucking off for a good while and Gura streams being rare as fuck

>> No.50531186

>>50530816
Anon, that’s because if I said “Mio, your voice makes me diamonds. It’s obviously a joke when I say I want to marry most vtubers, but with you I sometimes think about how the main reason it isn’t happening is that I don’t live in Korea,” that would not actually be good for her mental health.
And also, while the above is technically true, I also know that dating someone who used to be your oshi creates a really awkward dynamic that my autistic ass would not be able to handle.
Like, there does come a point when you have to keep your oshi from going too schizo.

>> No.50531189
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50531189

>>50531083
>the vast majority of his content on Twitch at the height of his popularity usually ranged from 14k-24k
His **AVERAGE** for the year 2021 was 28k. he took a massive tumble changing platforms

>> No.50531208

>>50530857
Looks like Mumei holds a larger consistent viewership this month at least

>> No.50531232

>>50531153
I'll give it to them, that's actually pretty original.
>>50531157
No shit

>> No.50531253

>>50531153
ohhhh thanks, thought you meant like a haha pun.

>> No.50531277

>>50530047
Everyone is shitposting since Rio does sound very much like a girl, especially when singing, while having a fairly androgynous design, but he has never asked to be referred to as anything special and is in the male group so he's a he even if people shitpost about my male wife the same way people shitpost about Tamaki

>> No.50531301

>>50531157
This guy joined Stars to get into the Japanese FPS scene. It’s going to murder his channel but that’s his choice.

>> No.50531324

>>50531173
Gura still got her 21k during a 4 way collab. People actually do miss Gura. Others? Not so much.

>> No.50531325
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50531325

-50 days

>> No.50531341

>>50531208
Ina, Fauna and Mumei are 500 from each other in both metrics. On the premise that Ina has the larger of the three, between consistent Fauna and inconsistent Mumei it's a tossup.
When Mumei is streaming regularly, it is a no contest and Mumei has a larger audience in any comparison with Fauna

>> No.50531354

>>50530109
Why did Niji hire a female for a male role to begin with? It's vtubers we're talking about, so it makes sense to hire someone who actually has a male voice. That and being a tranny is obviously a menhera sign

>> No.50531363

>>50531189
He coped by becoming a crit1kal-style drama commentary fag on his other channel.

>> No.50531394

>>50530047
He's a dude with a cock and balls, I can confirm, I sucked him off and his moans were really cute, especially when I was fucking him in the ass later on

>> No.50531405

>>50531157
did he pull a Luca and burst into their stream, or was he already streaming with them and they wanted to switch. cause if the later that doesn't really scream sex pest to me.

>> No.50531406

>>50531189
NTA, but lockdowns are over, my friend.

>> No.50531432

>>50531186
That’s fair but when she’s doing an rp stream about tying you down and straddling you while giving kisses is definitely not the time for a reality check

>> No.50531434

>>50531325
Connect the World is the absolute last chance for anything to be announced, if nothing has happened by July 4th we're hitting the record for sure.
I wouldn't bet on it myself. I think pretty good chances they don't have anything ready and are recruiting the gen as we speak for a Fall debut.

>> No.50531462

>>50530109
japanese genes...

>> No.50531497

>>50531405
Reading comprehension, anon.
He’s moving towards Valorant cause Apex is dying among the FPS circle.

>> No.50531501

>>50530857
People doubted Ina but she is merely below Fauna by 200 CCV in median CCV on top of raking up tons of hours watched for the month.

>> No.50531544

>>50531405
He's playing alone because no one likes him, but despite not being a Valorant player at all he started playing Valorant now because that's where all the girls are nowadays. He's also playing on the Japanese server despite Valorant being basically unplayable with lag, I wonder why lol

>> No.50531550

>>50530850
That are just giant speculations. Why would anyone vote in flyby? How many do flyby in a normal mc stream? Why would the TikTok audience on yt even watch streams? And the crux, why doesn't it happen on Twitch? I sometimes click on a stream and see some better streams.

>> No.50531552

>>50531501
Not to mention she poisoned her numbers with totk this month.

>> No.50531555

>>50531173
>checking out from EN in general
I can't believe this thread has already memory-holed the best showing from the EN box in ~7 months. It hasn't even been a week.

>> No.50531565

>>50530714
Ninja is a shit example because he didn’t go from a major streaming platform to another major streaming platform, he went from a major streaming platform to a literal start up. And that’s ignoring his numbers at the very start were actually about the same, he just quickly reclined afterwards. I actually watched a documentary about Ninja’s rise and fall, and the short of it is even if he stayed on Twitch, the guy was still destined fall off the face of the planet even if he never switched platforms because he was an incredibly unlikeable cunt who was only relevant due to his Fortnite gaming skills, and his numbers REALLY fell off once a bunch of better Fortnite players came along.

>> No.50531584

>>50531189
Twitch viewership being as high as it is would have much more worth and at least would only be bleeding as much as youtube is which is manageable. YouTube even increased payouts on some things while twitch decreased it overall. That should be the biggest sign that twitch views are shaky to say the least

>> No.50531586

>>50531394
don't know why but this made me hard

>> No.50531587

>>50531497
ahhh thought it was implying he was joining a stream with girls.

>> No.50531622

>>50531406
Anon was talking about "the height of his popularity"

>> No.50531640

>>50531341
Which was my point arguably Mumei is higher

>> No.50531651

>>50530857
damn, 28 streams, Mori really is like a machine when she focuses her autism on something

>> No.50531666

>>50531552
She is playing botw anon.

>> No.50531692

>>50529940
I still don't understand this. It is not that she should ignore the SC or anything. That SC was not even worth a lengthy rant of that caliber. I think she just used that opportunity to let off some steam.

>> No.50531700

>>50531354
Why did japan hire a woman to voice an anime man. Let me go watch a clip of DBZ and Naruto then get back to you

>> No.50531731

>>50531666
Is it better number wise?

>> No.50531757

>>50531157
It was pretty obvious from the little I've seen of him.

>> No.50531763

>>50531640
Mumei has a higher consistent viewership than Fauna when Mumei is streaming consistently.
Right now she is not streaming consistently, meaning she is up there with Fauna but without any significant advantage (or deficit).

That's a silly distinction tho, nobody questions that Gura has a higher consistent viewership even if her viewership at many points is zero because she's not streaming consistently in her channel.
If all you wanna say is "Mumei has a higher consistent viewership than Fauna", like that, unqualified, you can safely say it
People might say "true, but not right now" but that's a silly debate

>> No.50531766

>>50531731
funnily enough, yes

>> No.50531790

>>50531731
I'd say so. A large amount of Zelda fans aren't watching totk streams because they don't want to be spoiled (which is fucking hilarious, since Zelda's "story" is the most brainless trite and intelligence-insulting thing that has released this year)

>> No.50531794

which big streamer will play holocure first when released?

>> No.50531819

>>50531434
July, August, and September are packed. July or August will also be ID2 3D showcase and homos should be getting there’s as well. Also their first anniversary you think En management would let the thunder be stolen? September is the least pack event wise but with their new retarded no overlap rule that’s a weird month for a debut.

>> No.50531830

>>50531700
man, i grew up on dubbed DBZ so when I heard Goku's Japenese Voice for the first time, I was just like "why".

>> No.50531867
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50531867

>>50531763
>theoretical numbers
I love Fauna and Moom, buts let stick with the actual data

>> No.50531869

>>50531700
Vtubers are not voice actors. The "person inside" imbues the character and the model with a part of their soul and, for a role as demanding as following up Luxiem, that was clearly a mistake, not because Yugo was not successful (she was) but because she couldn't possibly deliver what was expected from the position.

If you want JP examples there is Tamaki (for instance) or Ito Life (on the opposite direction) both with no problem taking a model from the opposite sex and making the character work

>> No.50531881

>>50531432
Well, chat’s retarded, what else is new? I don’t ever participate in that virtue signaling bullshit. If viewers don’t listen when a vtuber lectures them and just seethe or leave, why the fuck would a vtuber listen to a bunch of greynames lecturing her?
I just stay silent whenever it gets to the “they’re being parasocial for chat” part.

>> No.50531891
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50531891

any collab that can top this one?

>> No.50531894

>>50531794
Kaela and Kiara

>> No.50531903

>>50531501
Her watch hours are up because Ina's BotW streams have been long as all hell compared to Fauna's. Fauna streams are usually 2-4 hours while Ina's BotW streams have all been 4-6 hours. On top of that, she had her birthday this month.

>> No.50531908

>>50531794
Kiara, she's pretty regular about squeezing early releases out of Kay Yu

>> No.50531910

>>50529488
its a guerilla and Apex so low numbers are to be expected but still the whiplash from 2k vesper zatsu to this is sad. idk why sisters dont watch streams.

>> No.50531946

>>50531891
Wasnt that collab a disaster?

>> No.50531950

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGE0FsJfqo0
choco doing mooring stream after subaru told her to do more stream lol
if only telling EN side easy like this...

>> No.50531952

>>50531867
Which chart and graph don’t agree

>> No.50531959

>>50531867
I don't know exactly which side of the argument you are trying to defend there.
I am seeing a chart with Mumei ahead of Fauna for most of the range, dropping below Fauna in periods where she can't consistently stream.
Seems like you are agreeing with me and posting corroborating evidence but in a very hostile manner, I don't know.

>> No.50531968

>>50531003
>IRyS
>numbernigger
If she is a numberfag she would spam karaoke and buff games and stream daily.

>> No.50531999

>>50531894
>>50531908
I'm hoping Kaela is first since this is the ID update, so it would make sense.

>> No.50532000

>>50531891
What's the dinosaur thing?

>> No.50532017

>>50531692
None of them can keep their mask on for more than 2 years, except for Gura.

>> No.50532043

>>50530857
Mori being above Bae is kind of grim as hell

>> No.50532060

>>50531794
i believe in the Kobo insta-lock of the frame with ID finally in

>> No.50532069

>>50531908
Do you think jp member learned and asked for early access too?

>> No.50532074

/lig/ actually has a devoted numberfag who tracks Twitch numbers, the only issue being it doesn’t include vshojo numbers as well, but the cripple tally would be way more interesting if they were also included. And it’s not like the tally would even be dominated by Twitch vtubers either, HoloEN would still win more days than not. But it’s just dumb to pretend like HoloEN’s primary competition is Niji instead of Twitch vtubers.

>> No.50532093

>>50531830
It's absolutely deranged and insane that Goku was voiced by a middle-aged woman for the original JP. I don't care what people say, it's ridiculous

>> No.50532094

>>50532043
Didn't Mori have several collabs this month, including hosting the high numbered squad collabs?

>> No.50532095

How are you still fucking samefagging jesus fucking christ just go to the fucking bait thread with your bullshit

>> No.50532101

>>50531910
Sisters couldn't give less of a shit about gaming streams. This is the big problem with male vtubers, and unless they manage to sell themselves to a majority male audience or somehow gets a female one who is interested in gaming they will only get numbers with shit like superchat-reading disguised as zatsudan, karaoke streams or ASMR shit.

>> No.50532103

>>50532069
Lamy did a EA stream the day after of Kiara no?

>> No.50532104
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50532104

>>50531968
Kyun~

>> No.50532106
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50532106

No fauna but I get morning sex with choco instead

>> No.50532108

>>50531999
Kiara might be tone deaf enough to ask for it anyways.
nice trips

>> No.50532114

>>50530368
>>50530683
That kind of content is definitely NG on Hololive. The retards and autismos involved will trigger a fan war for even the mildest of critiques as it is already and you want them to go even further?

>> No.50532139

>>50532000
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13whtq0/prophet_scarra_predicting_some_future_issues_of/
It is Scarra

>> No.50532148

>>50532101
>Karaoke
>ASMR
Even if Holostars do these they won't get numbers

>> No.50532176

>>50532074
Cross-platform numbers is inconsistent because they have different way of calculating it internally, nontheless it is a good way to illustrate the decline of holoEN and nijiEN, where nijiEN barely makes it to the tally and holoEN is actually threatened by twitch thots at this point.

>> No.50532188

>>50531406
>lockdowns are over
Maybe it's just a coincidence but most of the streamers I watch have either inclined or stayed about the same ever since "the lockdowns".

>> No.50532195

>>50532103
You might be right. I forgot that then.

>> No.50532204
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50532204

Why are we saying there will be no Fauna today??

>> No.50532212

>>50532074
you compare numbers only between the same platform, it's the same as esport tournaments numberfags that exclude chinese numbers.

>> No.50532223

>>50530857
i think only showing 2 sex is act of bigotry, not supporting what certain group of people fighting for and it really make their felling hurt because this is considered as act of violence

>> No.50532228

>>50532204
I really hate you fake faggots.

>> No.50532239

>>50532148
They still do better than gaming on average. Dingo's karaoke stream did way better than everything else he streamed outside of the shitposting dick game that had a tourist buff.

>> No.50532241

>>50531908
>>50531894
gomen, i mean big TWITCH streamer

>> No.50532244

>>50532074
How many fucking times must it keep being explained to you you can't compare the numbers, they're not the same thing

>> No.50532261
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50532261

ciyoko sex

>> No.50532262

>>50532139
It's Pikamee retard

>> No.50532275

>>50532074
Twitch streamers and Youtube channels are as much competitors as Manchester City and Boston Celtics are competitors
Granted, there might be people that watch the Premier League and the NBA but nobody serious compare anything from both teams because they play in different leagues of different sports with different rules and a largely different audience.

>> No.50532277

>>50532074
>but the apple tally would be way more interesting if oranges were also included. And it’s not like the tally would even be dominated by oranges, Red Delicious would still win more days than not. But it’s just dumb to pretend like Red Delicious primary competition is Granny Smith instead of oranges.

>> No.50532293

>>50532094
2 out of 28 streams isn't some average-breaking number
she's been collabing more in general, did karaoke, does more new games, consistent timeslot - all the stuff people been asking about for years and she finally kneeled

>> No.50532300

>>50532204
Look at the schedule

>> No.50532304

>>50532239
didn't that have that sc roulette thing.

>> No.50532303

>>50531622
Gura was also getting those same numbers or better during the lockouts. Do you really think it’s unreasonable that Ludwig was also performing that well? Especially considering that nowadays with them both on the same platform Ludwig’s numbers are better than Gura’s numbers.

>> No.50532318

>>50531622
Was more a comment about how it's hard to say if it was the platform switch or just recline from a prime streaming situation.

>> No.50532336

WAIT IS TODAY ANOTHER AKIROSE GOLD?!

>> No.50532338

>>50531794
>which big streamer will play a literal who fangame
Anon just being on steam isn't some magic switch, there's always some additional factor in play that turns random games into the flavor of the week.

>> No.50532355

>>50532223
There is actually a third "sex"
>Corporate

>> No.50532365

>>50532074
Hello, newfag.

>> No.50532382

>>50531153
So she's a magikarp that's too good to make it to Gyarados... but also too damn retarded to make it as a hardcore fish...

Seems fitting.

>> No.50532386

>>50532304
Yeah, which is another thing that makes the sisters watch their streams.

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50532391

>>50532228
>fake

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50532396

>>50532336
yup

>> No.50532397

>>50532074
Youtube and Twitch streaming have different audiences.

>> No.50532419

>>50532338
there are vsfags on twitch

>> No.50532439

>>50532338
>Anon just being on steam isn't some magic switch
It literally is lol

>> No.50532444

>>50532391
>gifted

>> No.50532446

>>50532391
Yes, fake, otherwise you'd fucking know she's not streaming today considering she put up a schedule, and even said it on stream yesterday, you fake piece of shit.

>> No.50532449

>>50532093
It’s funny because she won’t stop until she’s dead or dying and wants her successor to be Naruto’s VA (Also a woman)

>> No.50532453

>>50531910
>it's a guerrilla he didn't even bother to tweet about
>it's Axel's solo Apex, which no one enjoys - not even Axel

>> No.50532465

>>50532262
Okay, who can't differentiate between a dinosaur costume/outfit and a dinosaur. You have a problem retard

>> No.50532473

>>50532074
Nah that mean hololive has a chance to lose gold. Of course hololive is going to win monthly gold when your only competition on youtube are nijisanji en and small corpos.

>> No.50532480

>>50532396
man I love her 3D live, one of the best 3D production in Hololive I might say, maybe only behind Marine kino

>> No.50532489

>>50531968
She does more karaoke than anyone, more Minecraft than anyone but Fauna, positions herself to receive funnels and raids more than anyone. She received more raids than any Holo EN this month. Hell she got two raids in one stream. She clearly cares about numbers more than anyone in her branch for middling results.

>> No.50532527

>>50532338
>Anon just being on steam isn't some magic switch
nigga, why do you think every FGC streamer played Idol Showdown?

>> No.50532530

Choco is way too sex now

>> No.50532559

>>50532489
>she clearly cares about numbers!
>proceed to list raid as one of the reason
Raid is by other members to IRyS, she cannot control it. Again she would stream regularly if she cares about numbers.

>> No.50532566

>>50532444
That's not what gifted memberships look like

>> No.50532575

>>50532530
Her morning voice is the best

>> No.50532577

>>50532293
It only took her 3 and a half years

>> No.50532589

>>50532473
Anon, nobody can stop you making it yourself. Everybody is going to hate you tho. Go on

>> No.50532631
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50532631

>>50532074

>> No.50532643

>>50532473
Stop samefagging retard. You always come up with this retarded argument of
>n-no it only exists b-because holofags fear the might of vshitshow!
And refuse the actual explanation. Or forget that the normal tally is uncontested by twitch and still won't include them. Why does vshitshow care so much for cripple fucking gold?

>> No.50532647

>>50532114
He said vtuber not hololive specifically. But if we’re talking Hololive they could do what bill burr does. It’s completely anonymous and only about the topic itself not really attacking the person. What I want to say it’s possible and if I’m being honest Gura or Mori could pull it off. I don’t watch Mori so i can’t say if it’ll be good but her personality would fit

>> No.50532667

>>50532559
she has less control over her streaming schedule than anyone in EN considering she's Cover's music mouthpiece

>> No.50532678

>>50532577
I think this is the second time I've seen someone say that Myth has been at this for 3.5 years but they debuted exactly 2 years 8 months and 18 days ago

>> No.50532685

>>50532212
>>50532244
>>50532275
>>50532277
There is more merit in comparing Twitch vtubers numbers with HoloEN numbers than there is in tracking a professional athlete (HoloEN) ceaselessly annihilating a crippled retard (NijiEN). And it’s not like comparing 2 different sports, it’s more like comparing 2 different leagues within the same sport (EPL vs La Liga vs Bundes, etc..). And no soccer fan says “oh no we can’t ever compare different leagues, some players stats might be inflated in a farmers league” rather that’s just one point of contention in the overall argument of comparing them, not the end all be all.

>> No.50532704

>>50532293
Now she needs to just fix her internet problems. At this rate Mori will be a stable streamer by just 2026!

>> No.50532712
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>>50532473
DO NOT

>> No.50532715

>>50532667
>Cover's music mouthpiece
>not producing music for months

>> No.50532740

>>50532685
Just kill yourself, we won't do it. Do it yourself if you care, just be prepared for no one else to care

>> No.50532748

>>50532715
pls understand her producer was canned

>> No.50532749

hololive 1st gen, they make brand reorganization and set the foundation
hololive 2nd gen, they are shit
hololive 3rd gen, they are the golden gen
apply to each branch, so can en 3 do the magic

>> No.50532753

>>50532453
hi /MANS/ sister

>> No.50532758

>>50532559
Streaming at times convenient to receive raids and funnels shows she cares about numbers yes. She also streamed 19 times, only two streams less than the Holo EN with the most streams. One of her buff streams, idol showdown she streamed at 9AM JST, just to start before Bae. It was time she hadn't started a stream at in a month and hasn't since as well. She very clearly cares about numbers and its weird you're in denial about it.

>> No.50532780

>>50532685
>muh sports analogy
anon they're literally not the same stat, do you not get this? Do you just not understand?

>> No.50532790

>>50532685
yeah its like comparing Primer League (Hololive), Serie B (Vshojo) and whatever 2 tier below Serie B(lig)

>> No.50532792

>>50532685
It's more like comparing rugby to American football

>> No.50532812

>>50532303
She wasn’t after the ccv change her numbers have remained the same for 2 years now even during ccvid though that was also one of her most buff interestingly

>> No.50532817

>>50532758
>she also streamed 19 times, only two streams less than the Holo EN with the most streams.
Mori has the most streams at 28, Fauna took off 8 days and only has 3 less than she does.

>> No.50532833
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50532833

list of the graduated/hiatus chuubas post-2023

>Nunki https://twitter.com/nunki_dayo Graduated Febuary 26th
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff Graduated Febuary 29th
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune Graduated March 20th
>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber Graduated April 2nd
>Elaine https://twitter.com/Elaine_KoMETA Graduated May 8th
>Wabyuu https://twitter.com/waabyuu Graduated May 20th
>Iekushi Chapipi https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi Hiatus May 25th
>Blair Labri https://twitter.com/BlairLabri_NS Graduated May 26th
>Natsumi Moe https://twitter.com/vtuber_moe Retired May 30th

upcoming graduation/hiatus chuubas

>Ayane Hylo https://twitter.com/ayanehylo Graduating July 16th
>Miori Celesta https://twitter.com/mioricelesta Hiatus in June/July

>> No.50532835

>>50532577
she's stubborn and a slow learner, but once it gets through it tends to stick

>> No.50532839

>>50531041
She gets all the redirects, anon.

>> No.50532867

>>50532685
Anon, do it. You are just arguing here. Do you have a problem to make it yourself?

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That was a good bait ngl

>> No.50532883
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50532883

>>50532685
>And it’s not like comparing 2 different sports, it’s more like comparing 2 different leagues within the same sport (EPL vs La Liga vs Bundes, etc..).
Same difference. Nobody in sane mind would create an unified "EPL - La Liga" table and go
>WOW! Man City is ahead of Barcelona! Arsenal is mogging Real Madrid.
They're competing in different leagues, with different rules and against different adversaries.

Trying to create an unified table would be pretty much a
>my dad can beat your dad
type of deal, completely pointless

>> No.50532894

>>50532685
it's like comparing how much under the par a golf player went in a tournament vs the results of a tennis player
>They are both called Masters

>> No.50532934

>>50532223
Neck yourself.

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>>50532883
>Nobody in sane mind would
you think that anon is sane?

>> No.50532972

>>50532867
I am not autistic nor unemployed. I could try but I guarantee you it wouldn’t be a consistent tally.

>> No.50532973

>>50532685
You cannot compare them because Twitch streamers are not Vtubers

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50532980

Imminent addition to the 2m vod collection

>> No.50532984

>>50532817
Why are you acting like streaming more correlates to better viewrship when the EN vtubers that stream the most/have the most hours are the runts? She streamed more than 2/3rds of the month including members streams.

>> No.50532999

>>50532867
Of course he does, the vshojo shitter wants other people to do the work for him. Probably cause he's lazy AND knows people will tell him to fuck off so the effort will be for naught. He needs to gain the thread's acceptance of the concept and then some poor schmuck to do it for him.

>> No.50533002

>>50532972
The people making most of the tallies charts and tables in this thread are not unemployed

>> No.50533011

>>50530327
Welp another to the list that prove the existence of sapmod.

>> No.50533018

>>50532883
Except people would compare the top teams in La Liga with the top teams in EPL which is essentially what a tally is anyway. Who cares about the shitters.

>> No.50533041

>>50532972
You seem to be pretty autistic to me buddy

>> No.50533049
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50533049

>>50533011

>> No.50533064

>>50533011
We know that already yesterday.

>> No.50533065

>>50532685
>Different platforms
We've had this argument so many times in this thread and it's almost always a bad faith shitposter. Neck yourself.

>> No.50533099

>>50533018
>Who cares about the shitters
That anon sure does cares about lig shitter

>> No.50533100

>>50532999
I’m a HoloEN fan, specifically a Sapling. I know that’s cliche but I’m telling the truth.

>> No.50533107

>>50532382
I still believe that finana in Holoen would be top 3 in En rivaling even Ina. Too bad Nijisanji made her a worthless whore

>> No.50533108

>>50533018
>which is essentially what a tally is anyway.
No it's not. The tally is exactly what is in the pic displayed at >>50532883, and making an unified tally between Twitch and Youtube is the exact equivalent to merging those two tables

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>>50533011
Sapmod isn't getting my collection at least.

>> No.50533144

Choco 5k

>> No.50533148

>>50532883
This retarded analogy doesn't work this way. It's more like they're playing football but one scores 1.5 goals for every goal while the other scores 0.5 and we're trying to see who's the best goal scoring team.

This "different leagues" analogy would have to basically split HoloEN from NijiEN males caue they sure as shit don't target the same market.

>> No.50533164

>>50531555
It's /#/, where today's numbers are always and forever a surefire prediction of future trends. At least until tomorrow.

>> No.50533208

>>50533148
But we don't discount the Squad gold, aren't we?

>> No.50533226

>>50533148
>This "different leagues" analogy would have to basically split HoloEN from NijiEN males caue they sure as shit don't target the same market.
kek, it's funny that you say that, considering people are talking about
>THE FUCKING CRIPPLE TALLY
which was split from the one tally for no reason at all

>> No.50533243

>>50532972
It is not complicated, especially with >>50529181
and open source programs like python or any office. If somebody else cares they will aprreciate your work. But at the moment nobody sees a benefit and as a result we do not have it

>> No.50533251

>>50533011
>deleted
When it was not even about Fauna but EN3. Lots of fags seething in it though.

>> No.50533254

>>50532446
This is why I say don’t engage with them they think pretending gets the most (you)s. They don’t watch streams they’re just schizos so ignore them
When they get ignored they try to cycle to others like mumei after her announcement. Just keep ignoring them

>> No.50533272

>>50532872
Nodoka my oshi...

>> No.50533300

oh wait you guys just arguing about cripple tally? gomen
I thought you guys going to compare Vshojo / whatever Twitch chuuba there are to HoloJPGODS

>> No.50533304

>>50532106
Fake shit trying to give a bad name to saplings.

>> No.50533320

>>50533226
You imbecile, this has nothing to do with the topic.

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50533327

>grey lamy, death
>green lamy, death

>> No.50533331

>>50532559
>Streaming regularly brings numbers
Only a retard thinks that’s true

>> No.50533336

>>50531173
That bait is missing the early episodes of the tree arc that got around 9k, and that may have been without overlap.

>> No.50533346

>>50533304
how is watching streams bad? go fuck yourself, you're probably round like a whale

>> No.50533364

>>50533002
>>50532867
The issue with making a Twitch tally is that there is no tracking website which conveniently lets you filter for vtubers specifically. Don’t pretend like this thread is the one who does the heavy lifting in compiling YouTube vtuber stats when its the japs that compile the numbers.

>> No.50533365

>>50533208
What?
What the fuck are you trying to say? Pay attention to the topic.

>> No.50533380

>>50533331
Yeah we know it is you, Gura. Go back to stream.

>> No.50533383

I'm convinced this week is just pretty questionable because SGDQ is happening and people like to watch that shit

>> No.50533390

>>50533304
What?

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>>50533331
I love my cute retard wife

>> No.50533400

Reminder you can just embed your Twitch stream into any website on auto play and it will count towards ccv

>> No.50533413

>>50532277
Perfect analogy, except Gala is the patrician's choice of apple, even if Red Delicious and Granny Smith are also up there blow-for-blow.

>> No.50533416

>>50532704
well, she's one of the only HoloEN that has pretty much a hard lock on sticking around till then, so that's good enough?

>> No.50533433

>>50532715
Her recordings are in June/July for big projects and smaller ones litter the rest of the year. Then she gets to rest for a while

>> No.50533451

>No Fauna
>No Ina
>No IRyS
>No Mumei
>Kronii's doing a Tech Tips stream
Guess NijiEN is getting their first EN Gold of the month with Petra's karaoke, huh?

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>>50533331

>> No.50533468

>>50533331
NTA. While you still need a hook, streaming regularly helps turn curiosity into routine. Holding numbers brings more numbers.

>> No.50533488

>>50533451
>Petra
shes jp indie

>> No.50533494

>>50533451
Kronii tech tips is going to do decent numbers, better than anything NijiEN can put out anyway.

>> No.50533496

>>50533364
There is no tracking website which conveniently let you filter by kaigai vtuber channels either but tables like >>50530857 get made anyway.
It's not terribly hard to keep a list of channels and then scrape twitchtracker

>> No.50533509

Choco 6k

>> No.50533512

>>50533364
But the discussion had \lig\ in mind and they have those numbers.

>> No.50533515

why choco make those hentai trope talk in early morning

>> No.50533521

>>50532647
I singled out Hololive specifically for the audience. Definitely not a good thing.

>> No.50533522

>>50532980
How’s outlast look?

>> No.50533528

>>50533336
EN's MC number dip is just most likely people figuring out that most of EN just doesn't give a shit about MC. JP has a great box for it, EN is just starving.

>> No.50533530

>>50533451
>Enna taking off for Wed and Thurs
Nah, nijiEN won't have any gold either.

>> No.50533555

>>50533451
Kronii's tech tips stream could potentially beat that. Is Petra known for getting karaoke numbers? Niji karaoke is in the toilet nowadays.

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>>50533522

>> No.50533675

>>50533522
Dunno why you bring it up, she's probably never getting another (new) normal stream VOD at 2 million at this point. Not discouting 1 million stream VODS since shobon blew up.

>> No.50533688

>>50533226
I was the one who mentioned the idea of a cripple tally first. It was meant to be a shitpost (in the Luxiem vs HoloEN sense IIRC), but there was partly a reason as well - being that those with EN audiences are a lot more culled than those with JP audience, so comparing EN & JP is just unfair. Market share had nothing to do with it and it's not like >we should just arbitrarily multiply EN numbers by a random amount to compensate for the cull either.
(The shitpost part was ignoring the fact that Luxiem with their CN / JP audience was barely culled, too)

>> No.50533721

>>50532104
Those boobs, man

>> No.50533735

>>50533454
Her numbers are good for ID and that’s because she avoided males collabs and got blessed by Gura. Nothing to do with consistency

>>50533396
And we have a falseflagger that doesn’t watch her. Streaming a lot has nothing to do with her increase but you don’t watch her so why would you know.

>> No.50533737

>>50533512
Do /lig/ and /#/ numbers operate with the same timeline?

>> No.50533753

>>50533675
Her Outlast Trials vod is actually doing quite well. Much better than her CCV would indicate (in classic golden-era Gura VODCOPE fashion)

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>>50533688
>lot more culled
80% culled right

>> No.50533782

>>50533327
Turns out only JPs can be Lamies.

>> No.50533817

>>50533688
So you're saying since according to people in this thread IRyS has a larger JP audience than other ENs her numbers are actually relatively worse since they aren't culled as much?

>> No.50533836

>>50533688
>EN audiences are a lot more culled than those with JP audience
Holy shit people actually believing this shit wholeheartedly.

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Sad timeloop attempt

>> No.50533885
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>> No.50533911

>>50530857
Bae is better than shitRyS I don’t care what this graphs say

>> No.50533910

Thread is bored so we're revisiting some classics, I see. Always fun to wheel out the greatest hits.

>> No.50533924
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Noice

>> No.50533929

>>50533735
>blessed by Gura
kek cumbutt is really something else

>> No.50533956

>>50533737
No idea, my guess is they use est

>> No.50534008

>>50533924
Strong overture for the first Raspberry of the month. How are Aia and Aster responding to this?

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>>50533910
>Thread is bored so we're revisiting some classics
Gura>Pekora

>> No.50534026
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50534026

>>50533924

>> No.50534054

>>50533924
Why didn’t the PP game incline Alex? That was a 3K stream…….

>> No.50534065

>>50533454
Haven't her numbers been down somewhat recently, even Minecraft?

>> No.50534066

>>50533924
Dingo's numbers are absolutely horrifying, when the hell did he become a bottom-barrel runt of Tempus? What the heck happened?

>> No.50534077

>>50533468
>Kiara
>Bae
>Mori
All Stream a lot but get better numbers in fact when ever the branch suffers numbers go down. Streaming a lot has never been the answer. It’s why Koyori and Kaela were shitters originally. Streaming a lot made them better streamers so when they got that momentum, for kaela it was Gura minecraft and Koyori it was pekorust, they were able to keep it. Whether it’s 4 times a month or 40 times if you’re bad at streaming you won’t grow

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>>50533929
i mean the Mandate of Atlantis exists, but it's even more fickle of the Heaven one, she got a couple of 5view out of it

>> No.50534137

>>50534065
she doesn't interact with Gura anymore, and too often flirts with JP by playing the kaela shin

>> No.50534148

>>50533836
Well, either you believe that, or you have to assume that for some reasons EN viewers are both a lot more chatty and responsive to pools, while taking ages to be verified from the waiting room
>>50533817
Perhaps? Without knowing how many JP viewers she has or at least seeing some percentages, it's hard to say.
I meant, for example, both Gura and Ina had better numbers than her during JP hours.

>> No.50534150

Seriously though lol, where in the fuck is EN3?

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50534165

>>50533910
Can’t believe Kobo ended up being a Sub 5k shitter and Vox dropped all the way down to 3K getting mogged by current Kiara………

>> No.50534186

>>50534066
Not like he's ever been strong, he's the worst streamer of the original Tempus group easily. Both him and blue fag were brushing 3view territory even back when Tempus could sometimes pull decent numbers.

>> No.50534191

>>50534065
She probably unironically needs a break so that people can miss her a little

>> No.50534205

>>50534077
Kiara and Mori’s problem is that they stream niche JRPGs for long hours instead of what Kaela does with Minecraft.

>> No.50534214

>>50533587
>>50533675
Outlast not Outlast Trials. It was neck and neck with the henry stick man

>> No.50534217

Tempiss2 leans more to being more like Luxiem now that I've noticed. 3 of those faggots do BFE shit. Only Hakka doesn't.

>> No.50534236

>>50534077
>Streaming a lot has never been the answer.
Streaming regularly=/=streaming a lot.
Don't compare Kaela's autism to it.
Either way the point was that when it comes to streaming frequency not doing it usually hurts.

>> No.50534242

1million views for a 10min video in the west = $5,000 - $7,000 does this explain with Gura never streams?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLCfAII25jU

>> No.50534256

>>50533956
Just asked them, and apparently their numbers guy uses PST midnight as the rollover date instead of JST.

>> No.50534268

>>50534150
jp 3 is the best jp can offer, id 3 break the number and bring so much attention,
can en 3 fulfill the expectations of 3rd gen blessing

>> No.50534283

>>50534217
Well Hakka is a faggot

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another day of great streams

>> No.50534300
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50534300

why is EN numbers like this?

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>>50534214
Little bit behind but it's also an imminent 2mil vod
Classic stream, lots of nostalgia for me for this one

>> No.50534316

>>50534148
You do not have to bite bait, you know. We have a small consens on that field, basically the first post. Falseflagger are using it a lot.

>> No.50534323

>>50534300
>no hololive

>> No.50534328

>>50534300
>258
Hololive EN is going to get its first 2 views chuuba soon...

>> No.50534345

>>50533817
>>50534148
>If you have to ask an EN question the answer is almost always Gura then Ina
Gura has more JP viewers than some actual JP members and on the flip side Most top JP members have more en fans than most of en

>> No.50534385

>>50534345
vod viewers maybe

>> No.50534387

>>50534300
>>50534328
mans sisters said if the homos in 200 they safe

>> No.50534489

>>50534300
The one thing nijiEN still has is that their averaged CCV isn't as low as the homos'.

>> No.50534503

I would ask you to note that Kaela's success, other than Minecraft, Gura and the fact that she covers all timezones, she streams different games every week, games that sometimes I have not even heard of, she is in her own way the perfect streamer with as much content diversity as her autism allows.

>> No.50534508

>>50534236
>Gura, Kronii, Shion, Ayame, Aqua, Suisei,
Only one with problems wasn’t streaming related

>> No.50534512

>>50534066
I tried watching him back when Tempus was still new and had some goodwill to work with. Axel is just boring. Vesper at least has some "charisma" and Magni was actually creative and kinda funny before he became a lazy twitch faggot in a vtuber skin. Altare also sucks but is carried by his association with Kobo. The rest of tempoop also sucks with the clown having to hyper pander to his audience in order to get to where he's at. The stars box has completely collapsed. More than anyone, it should be Tempus who needs to pray for EN3 and EN4 to debut first before Tempus 3 because god forbid if Tempus 3 debuts first, the absolute seethe from the entire HoloEN fanbase plus the addition of new dudes who are going to siphon fans and resources from them might outright kill the branch altogether.

>> No.50534511

>>50534345
Proof? And don't post that Gura pie chart from 2 years ago.

>> No.50534561

>>50534503
its pure from gura's blessing dont denied that

>> No.50534577

>>50534150
2 more months

>> No.50534591

>>50534066
Axel is just a shitty streamer who also sucks at zatsu. There's a reason why the only thing people remember about him is him bragging about his highschool days.

>> No.50534611

>>50534503
also, she doesn't collab with homos despite being ID

>> No.50534651

>>50534512
Shitty numbers didn't stop Cover from debuting Uproar, the only group in the company with a borderline 2view currently.

>> No.50534688

>>50534150
2024 is when I’ve been telling you

>> No.50534711

EN3 isn't coming this June, is it?

>> No.50534739

>>50534711
We know it's probably coming this year but I'm not that confident it'll be this month, and they can't do it in July (overlaps our special precious boys' debut anniversary) and probably not August or September (too close to the anniversaries of actually relevant gens)

>> No.50534754

>>50534512
You forgot to mention that he is a singer that can't sing properly live and his covers sound not impressive.

>> No.50534758

EN3 tonight?

>> No.50534823

>>50534561
Gura's buff is long gone, and she is still able to gather from 2 to 4k viewers on any of her streams, with Gura buff it was from 5k+++. Kaela is good on her own, Gura helped her with success, but that is not the central part of her success.

>> No.50534839
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>>50534758
yes!

>> No.50534860

EN3 in 2 hours? Revealed to me in a dream?

>> No.50534901

>>50534328
>Hololive

>> No.50534905

>>50534711
Anon EN3 isn't coming until 2024 what are you even talking about?

>> No.50534913

>>50532577
EN hasn’t even existed for 3 years

>> No.50534917

if there's anything this almost 2 year journey taught me, no one is gonna predict when EN3 is coming out

>> No.50534942

>>50534508
Do you understand what generally and usually mean, anon?

>> No.50534947

>>50534561
Come on ESL-chama she had TWO Gura collabs a year ago. You're beyond delusional if you think that's the reason people watch her.

>> No.50534983

>>50534905
they're looking for EN3 actively now, and auditions take 6 months max, so latest possible debut would be December

>> No.50534989

>>50534917
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matthew 24:36

>> No.50535015

>>50534947
>>50534823
You mongos are replying to a thread troll that replies to everything with
>it's because of Gura
to get people to shit on Gura and on HoloEN in general

>> No.50535020

>>50534947
NTA, but the more casually watchers don't know that most IDs can speak English. Those collab clips probably did help a bit

>> No.50535025

*Final EN TWITCH + YOUTUBE TALLY OF THE DAY*
>11,023 Neuro Sama(Indie)
> 8,630 Fauna (Hololive)
> 8,203 Henya (Vshojo)
> 7,716 Ina (Hololive)
>7,568 Ironmouse (Vshojo)
> 7,001 IRyS( Hololive

>Total
0x Hololive
0x Nijisanji
1x Other

>> No.50535032

>>50534839
Jap you fucking nigger fix EN already
whip these lazy bitches harder, I give you permission to whip my oshi extra hard

>> No.50535050

>>50534256
Okay I sorted my thoughts a bit, midnight jst is 8am pst, so the streams they post are for the day prior in our thread. When a stream is starting between 12am and 8am pst, they are still part of the day before(I don't know that many streamer at all starting at that time, but exceptions may differ). That would be a look out for anybody implementing twitch.

>> No.50535053

>>50535025
>TWITCH + YOUTUBE
kys

>> No.50535097

>>50534651
This might be a cope, but looking back I think a lot of the shit that happened back in 2022 (the stars being pushed so blatantly to be precise) was Yagoo and management trying their best to salvage that sinking ship in preparation for the IPO. They definitely knew, like everyone else, that Holostars was a failed passion project that only exist because the girls are subsidizing their asses ala the NBA to the WNBA. Everything that they did last year was pretty much a salvage job to try and make the stars not look like the embarassments that they are. Yagoo was probably over the moon when he saw Tempiss debut numbers, thinking that this was it, the stars were finally gonna incline. Then the whole Ame and Kronii fiasco happened and it all went down hill from there. The fact that they did their damndest to hide the stars numbers from their investors should tell you all you need to know.

>> No.50535117

>>50535050
>That would be a look out for anybody implementing twitch.
No one here cares for twitch.

>> No.50535133

>>50534205
Excuses, the problem isn’t the jrpg it’s that they don’t know how to stream it. There are 2 things people want to see you experience it or kick ass at it. They’re female so it leads to only the first one. Kiara won’t shut up about her life, and Mori won’t shut up about work or chat interactions. When Irys played persona 5 I thought she would be the best at getting the experience right but it ended up being bae for a stream and a half. Ina could probably do it well, mumei if it’s the right jrpg, and I actually don’t know if Gura could pull it off. She was entranced by dmc but it’s also one of the few times chat crushed her spirit

>> No.50535137

>>50535025
And now, you have to format/design it a bit better. But for a start it is good

>> No.50535162

>>50535025
kys

>> No.50535192

>>50535025
>Fauna mogged Henya
>Ina mogged Ironmouse
I thought the top Vshojo’s actually averaged better CCv than anyone not named Gura? Guess that was a lie

>> No.50535201

>>50535117
Okay, you do you

>> No.50535205

>>50535025
Kys

>> No.50535241

>>50535025
The real interesting thing here is if you have the balls to post this every day

>> No.50535255

>>50534310
Not streaming has really put her channel in stasis

>> No.50535278

>>50535201
I am 100% sure you are shitposting, but this is not even new. This has happened multiple time and no one cares

>> No.50535311

>>50534917
June 10th is when EN3 will have a trailer.

>> No.50535312

>>50535025
And look your responses are so imaginative.

>> No.50535343

>>50534942
Would you like me to list all the inconsistent streamers in the world to show you it’s not true? How about you bring up people who lost viewers by not streaming

>> No.50535384
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>>50533910
Like this?

>> No.50535400

>>50535025
When you put it this way HoloEN is in real trouble.

>> No.50535412

>>50535241
It'll probably disappear like the Kaigai tally that used to get posted to include ID. If anything, he should post a twitch plus youtube vtubers main tally and include isegye, that'd be a more interesting and hilarious tally, just to show how much the first and 2nd army wipe the floor out of the rest of the vtubing landscape, regardless of platform.

>> No.50535418

>>50535384
A beautiful work of art, every time I see it is like the first time. Brings a tear to my eye.

>> No.50535425

>>50535311
Im thinking more like June 13th IF they decide to go with June. It would be a Tuesday and that week is pretty empty in general but I think June in general is super unlikely

>> No.50535448

>>50534300
Elira and Pomu still being in the top of the nijigirls despite all the debuts is not something I was expecting

>> No.50535479

>>50535412
I do kinda miss the kaigai tally.

>> No.50535519

>>50535025
>EN TWITCH
The Vshokek fears the Korean

>> No.50535521

>>50534823
>>50534947
>Her success was due to Gura
That’s the statement, that’s the truth. Her keeping the incline was due to her hard work. It’s literally how hololive has thrived since the beginning you get eyes on them and they build their audience. If you’re taking offense to it you’re a schizo it’s like taking offense to the fact that every single member would be less popular outside of hololive

>> No.50535584

>>50535425
I think June is optimal for EN to do something to build up hype for Connect the World concert. Gotta sale online tickets somehow and a new gen would do just the trick.

>> No.50535606

>>50535412
But this tally is just for EN. Isegye is not EN or is it?

>> No.50535613

>>50535025
Show where you got the data from. Also where is Isegey?

>> No.50535620

>>50529353
>>50529457
>16 streams in May
>15 entries on cripple tally
kind of curious which Nino stream didnt make the tally

>> No.50535656

>>50535584
yeah but EN management is not that smart

>> No.50535658

>>50535133
You missed my point. If Kaela decided to stream JRPGs for long hours instead of her Minecraft streams she’d be doing a lot worse. If Mori and Kiara replaced JRPGs with Minecraft they’d be doing better.

>> No.50535664

>>50535519
He wants to make a kaigai tally. Go on

>> No.50535694

>>50534191
The concept of scarcity and demand? Is it really relevant in the streaming scenery?

>> No.50535720

>>50535613
It's a list to make Vshojo look good. It's always for that reason

>> No.50535724

>>50535613
>>50535606

>> No.50535737
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>>50535656
The OLD EN management was not smart. We already know they got snapped out of existence just recently. Full speed ahead into a new golden age for EN. Trust in Jap and he will provide.

>> No.50535747

>>50535025
Kys

>> No.50535766

>>50535664
>kaigai tally
Will he include HoloID and NijiID? What about Vtubers from other countries?

>> No.50535790

>>50535584
>optimal
>build up hype
>a new gen would do the trick
We're talking about EN management.

>> No.50535795

>>50535584
I'd love to be pleasantly surprised, but I think this most recent audition announcement was them starting the search process for EN3. So no gen for at least a few months.

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50535818

>A-chan was at a hairdresser and the woman started talking about vtubers... And mentioned Hololive.

>> No.50535831

>>50535606
They may as well be posted since the whole tally itself is a shitpost, more than even the Kaigai and EN tallies are already . If you're gonna go full retard anyway, you may as well not hold back.

>> No.50535835
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>> No.50535871

>>50535818
Oh no no no

>> No.50535891

>>50535818
Have you guys even went to a public place and someone mentioned a twitch streamer?

>> No.50535907

>>50533885
>Chocolate is in Japan

>> No.50535916

>>50535795
They just couldn't have delayed auditions for this long. It makes no sense whatsoever.

>> No.50535940

>>50535097
They didn’t hide their numbers they obfuscated them.
>On average every talent among the 68 is worth 50? 500? mil yen or something like that
>Sub growth for stars YoY best in the company
>Debut is hitting a new market successfully
>Con visits being a success are a group efforts
If you don’t take your time to actually look up the channels of these members you don’t know you wouldn’t realize the vast sub difference or that a girl is 950 million while they’re 50 million to get that average. But hoping yagoo fails could impact the girls which isn’t good.

>> No.50535951

>>50535025
retard

>> No.50535960

>>50535891
The only public places I seen anything like this come up are anime cons and when I go surfer Yu-Gi-Oh in my locals

>> No.50535986

>>50535766
No clue, he says the *Final EN TWITCH + YOUTUBE TALLY OF THE DAY* misses the korean. He needs a lesson in geography because korea is not part of EN. But in the kaigaitally, there is korea westtaiwan indonesia brazil like many.

>> No.50536002

>>50535658
Oh then yes that’s true.

>> No.50536012

>>50535818
huh usually it's nijisanji

>> No.50536024
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50536024

>>50535025

>random twitch whore
>outperforms powerhouse corpo chuuba

BASED

>> No.50536056

>>50535831
Okay, I recognize your criticism

>> No.50536140

Jap-sama onegai... tasukete kudasai...

>> No.50536183

The announcement is coming june 5. If you check the hololive reddit megathread it shows something is coming on that day so get hype.

>> No.50536207

So whos streams are you watching today en bros

>> No.50536213
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50536213

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>> No.50536239
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50536239

...

>> No.50536241

>>50536207
I'm going to check out kronii tech tips, i like microphone talk

>> No.50536248

>>50536140
>debuts tempus3

>> No.50536256

>>50534165
what lessons can we learn from this?

>> No.50536274

>>50536239
Sisters... Our SC cope...

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>>50529353
>8,630: Fauna (Hololive)
>7,716: Ina (Hololive)
>7,001: IRyS (Hololive)
CGDCT 、これはベースードです?~!

>> No.50536358

knowing that I'll never find a hololive fan where im from makes me kinda sad...

>> No.50536399

>>50536239
Kek red guy really wants to be a woman

>> No.50536400

>>50535737
Homos
>Mysterious meeting to not overlap homos
>Helping them with a stupid April fools event that also came with merch
>No cover song drama
>Perms for anything they want
>Support the cause
>TWITTER

Girls
>Perms guy disappears on gura
>Cover song drama for Mori
>Forced to support the cause
>Merch delays for a Shirt
>Merch delays for subscriber milestone
>Fans had to give Gura news on about her figure
>TWITTER

All this is 2023

>> No.50536426

>>50536256
Kobo makes sense. She's trapped in a small box she herself fell into. ID4 can help her incline again. Vox on the other hand is fucked.

>> No.50536450

>>50535025
Not me but based. I totally forgot I need to track A.I tubers as well.

>> No.50536494

>listened to mori's ASMR
>it was good
...fuck that whore.

>> No.50536504

>>50536358
i work in yuro hospitality, and with the average age and sex of the koreans/chinese that come here i probably took the documents of countless sisters, don't know what's worse

>> No.50536514

>>50532017
don't have to put on much mask if you embrace the thing

>> No.50536531

>>50536400
>Merch delays for a Shirt
Oh damn, I forgot all about this. How hard is it to get a white shirt with a manga panel on it?
It's never coming, is it?

>> No.50536562

>>50536494
her only good asmr is horse collab

>> No.50536589

>>50536400
So true sis. Let's compare homos to the girls constantly like they are on the same level.

>> No.50536595

>>50536400
>Bae's Play Dice remix lost into the ether to this day only the topic version exists on youtube

>> No.50536600

>>50536241
enjoy it brother.

>> No.50536610

>>50536531
Apparently something is coming this week so maybe soon?

>> No.50536679

>>50536562
the latest one she did was good.
unlike most anons i don't hate her, i just dislike what she does.
and she's sometimes very cringe

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>> No.50536707

>>50536595
Holy shit I forgot about this.

>> No.50536724

>>50529591
>took months for Kronii to recline from the homo collab.
Then saplings are unlikely to leave Fauna for a thing that is trivial in comparison

>> No.50536737

>>50536679
hogey deadbeat

>> No.50536759

>>50536531
>>50536595
Jap is definitely so much better than omega right

>> No.50536772

It appears that I’m not the only one interested in making a Twitch/YT combined tally, so I’ll leave my effodys here as well. I’ve talked to /lig/ and /vsj/, and /lig/ has a devoted numbers guy who releases numbers at PST midnight, but he doesn’t seem to be on right now, while /vsj/ simply doesn’t have any devoted numbers tracker of any kind, but if you wanted to half ass the tally (like I was intending too), Ironmouse, Zen, and Henya are the only 3 that actually have a realistic chance of winning cripple tallys, so you could just track those 3 and combine it with /lig/‘s trackers info.

>> No.50536781

I hate irys.

>> No.50536784

>>50536494
>...fuck that whore Mori.
figuratively or literally?

>> No.50536787

>>50536400
Also one of them literally suspended for 2 weeks. Selective memory?

>> No.50536807

>>50536589
Homobeggar go back

>> No.50536814

>>50536239
>most subbed member
>doing badly as the ultimate runt
When have we seen such terrible performance? At least Mori can get music views even if she's Kiara tier now

>> No.50536835

>>50536759
Give the man sometime to adapt and sort things out. It takes MONTHS to get shit together taking over as director.

>> No.50536833

>>50536787
>2023
sister not like this

>> No.50536839

>>50536781
But why

>> No.50536857

>>50535343
When people don't stream viewers find other people. Unless you want to suggest they're all dedicated and waiting.

>> No.50536860

>>50536724
Didn’t she get some of her lowest streams ever soon after that. What are you talking about

>> No.50536893

>>50529455
If they really wanted to “support the cause” for pride month, they could just do a collab with a member of the alphabet gang, act normal, and not make a giant fuss about it.
What does virtue signaling about everything even do except annoy people? I arguably also support the cause irl but when it comes up during a vtuber stream I just go, “ma’am, you’re larping as an anime girl.” It’s not like I’m going to magically start hunting troons just because someone didn’t mention it was pride month.

>> No.50536895

>>50536494
t. Totally not a deadbeat trying enforce the narrative that "Mori is good ackshually, and everybody that says otherwise is tsundere."

>> No.50536905

>>50536772
kys

>> No.50536916

>>50536835
Not to mention he has deal with Omega's existing plans

>> No.50536945

>>50536893
no, instead they will do play games about that

>> No.50536966

>>50532685
Okay you do it then. Nobody is stopping you from every day compiling and posting a combined Twitch and Youtube tally if you want. Most anyone will do is tell you to KYS.

>> No.50536969

>>50536772
The absolutely laziest way to do it would just be to find out what Vshojos numbers are and then slap them together with the /lig/ list and hope there wasn't any other EN twitch vtuber who got on the tally. And then post it every single day, which is the really hard part. Most alternative lists die because of this. Also Henya and Kson are debatably not even EN streamers.

>> No.50536983

>>50536772
No you are. KYS

>> No.50537002

>>50535025
faunawhore

>> No.50537009

>>50536835
Not an excuse that the homos april fools merch had 0 issue but Ina shirt is delayed.

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>>50536807
>homobeggar

I don't even watch them at all to even know what you're actually complaining about.

>> No.50537023

>>50536969
>VshojoJP
Not even debatably, they just aren't

>> No.50537031

>>50536893
They sometimes collab with Rio, if that counts

>> No.50537042

Why do even twitchniggers hang out here? This board is virtual "youtubers" not virtual twitchniggers

>> No.50537045

>>50536595
How ironic that I finally discovered it and have been listening to it practically nonstop. It’s good. But yeah, it’s the topic version.

>> No.50537070

>>50537009
didn't the homos release a voice pack the other day also?

>> No.50537076

I miss her bros, being one day off schedule is kind of like a cock in the ass

>> No.50537100

>>50537042
True, we need a "Virtual Streamers" board

>> No.50537103

>>50537009
It was probably in the cards already. These things are planned months in advance.

>> No.50537114

I miss Fauna and Mumei

>> No.50537119

>>50536239
Better hope those gifted mem are actually worth 5 bucks each. Does youtube take a mem cut as well?

>> No.50537126

Considering the month rolls over tomorrow, this is the perfect time to start a Twitch/YT tally.

>> No.50537131

>>50537076
Stay strong sap. We're gonna get a kino stream tomorrow.

>> No.50537139

>>50529591
After yesterday I'm going to assume all negative Fauna discussion is in bad faith by Nijisisters. It went from "omg Fauna can't get 9k with direct Ina overlap" to spamming that over and over when everyone ignored it to absolutely deranged schizo posting and then to straight dox spamming within hours. So yeah, fuck off.

>> No.50537144

>>50537045
i discovered on yt only after the music channel merge and the new tab "releases", was on spotify since day1 meaning that the song is/was ready with her outfit for a joint launch

>> No.50537151

>>50537042
It's just the Vshojo fag. This happens when they debut someone or they are having a somewhat good month

>> No.50537154

>>50536772
Alright retard, why stop with Twitch and YouTube? You know there are other platforms right? There's also Kick, which is a direct competitor and clone of Twitch. Why not include Bilibili at this point? Hell, TikTok and Facebook have live stream functionality and the latter is right behind Twitch and YouTube. Don't need to limit by region either, how about Mildom and Afreeca? You retards were making a big deal about Chaturbate when Melody did that stream with Filian, how about that one too?

>> No.50537170

>>50537011
>I don’t know about the girls problems or the fact that the homo stuff mentioned was catalog bait made here
My mistake nothomobeggar

>> No.50537220

>>50537100
They've long resisted making an eceleb board but if that ever happened the more natural place for most twitch vtubers would be there.

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>PLEASE CARE ABOUT MY TWITCH WHORES
No

>> No.50537237

>>50537154
I seen some FC2 girls beat some of the stars. We should include them

>> No.50537250

>>50530691
based /b/omu
she spoke absolute facts

>> No.50537280

I refuse to believe it's actually fans and not just shitposters trying a new angle. Everyone knows no one gives a shit about comparing Twitch and Youtube.

>> No.50537296

apparently it may be possible that holocure may include trad chinese language

>> No.50537304

Save blue homo, onegai

>> No.50537308

>>50537103
So Ina’s outfit reveal merch wasn’t “in the cards.” So despite there being 0 changes so far or the fact that Yagoo himself is a homobeggar you’ll stand by this belief that Jap is all about supporting the girls.

>>50537070
Another one

>> No.50537334

>>50537100
and a vtweeter board and a vdrama board

>> No.50537338

>>50537296
What is that Taiwan language?

>> No.50537349

>>50536969
I wasn’t planning to track Henya long terms, just maybe short term if I felt like it. Zen and Ironmouse are the actual vshojo ENs worth tracking. Then you must combine it with /lig/ numbers and this threads numbers, you got a fairly easy way to compile a list every day. That other anon added Neuro-sama but I would personally keep A.I.tubers off my list, but if he wants to do it more power to him.

>> No.50537351

>>50536772
Only retards think a combined tally is a good idea.

>> No.50537371

>>50537338
yes

>> No.50537396

>>50537296
Hololive still have HK fans.

>> No.50537400

>>50537296
Cover selling out to china?! to the catalog!

>> No.50537410

>>50537237
Great idea, we also need to track Trovo, Picarto, and every Peertube instance as well. We don't want to be non-inclusive, so I propose that the cutoff be lowered to 1k or even 500.

>> No.50537436

>>50537170
I actually only watch the girls and have fun. This is the only place I remember homos even exist funny enough.

>> No.50537472

>>50537154
Because I don’t care about who Pajeets and chinks watch, I only care about who English viewers watch because I speak English.

>> No.50537483

>>50536772
Yes you are, stop fucking astroturfing your bullshit

>> No.50537492

>>50537400
>>50537396
retards, that's taiwanese

>> No.50537520

Good morning sir

>> No.50537528

>>50537154
You don't need to be a smartass to see relevant streamer on the streamingsphere. And we are still talking bout ENs. Chaturbate is a stream too, but I will see

>> No.50537530
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50537530

>>50537304
Pride month soon, I expect him to incline to the moon

>> No.50537549

>>50537472
But fuxiem and other niji organs stream on b2, as do a few twitchtards, so there's no reason not to include them

>> No.50537560

>>50537220
But /vt/ IS an eceleb board...

>> No.50537564
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50537564

>sexo with fatto catto

>> No.50537590

>>50537530
Oh fuck I didn't realize it's that time again in Burgers politics.

>> No.50537596
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Holy fuck, wtf?

>> No.50537624

>>50536860
There are many factors that affect views. Anons in /#/ often have wrong predictions about numbers because they can't understand or capture all the variables. Unless there is a sudden sharp decline within a very short period of time you can’t really be sure that a certain incident has impacted the views.

>> No.50537626

>>50537596
Everyone (female) is watching dez

>> No.50537627

>>50537549
So you care about Luxiem getting into the tally. Why wait, say it straight forward.

>> No.50537629

>>50537564
I love her

>> No.50537632

>>50537530
He'll incline just like GDQ usually incline from low 4view to 50k during big events, I'm know that

>> No.50537635

>>50537280
This thread has become corrupted to the point that actual numbersposters are considered trolls while retards talking about male collabs 24/7 is just completely normal posting.

>> No.50537636

Trying to convince other people to make a new tally for you is retarded. If you want to make one, make one. If you keep stubbornly posting it there's a pretty good chance it'll eventually get acceptance.
It takes like a few hours at most to write a python script to scrape numbers and generate a tally for you, and you'll learn a useful skill in the process.

>> No.50537655

>>50537635
I can't stop thinking about dicks

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>”twitch whores”
You guys know that Both Lamy and Miko stream on twitch too right???
>“La+ and Ame do too!”
They are correct on those

>> No.50537681

>>50537624
It’s always cucks coping

>> No.50537682

>>50537627
It sounds more like you're scared your twitch whores will get moggedd by other websites

>> No.50537689

>>50535133
nobody has managed to stream JRPGs in EN without their numbers plunging, putting it down to a takamori issue is cope.

>> No.50537697

>>50537636
In case you haven’t noticed there is already at least 2 anons attempting to do it.

>> No.50537705

>>50537564
This is unironically such a fucking sex outfit and no one on /vt/ has said anything about it wtf

>> No.50537707

>>50537635
>waaah please make the twitch/youtube tally!
No, it's fucking retarded. It's a cope tally of a cope tally. You only want it to exist to make shitposts about "muh vshojo won today! HololoEN btfo!" and literally nothing else, because you try this shit D A I L Y but get told to kys. You think if suddenly there's a tally, people won't call you an idiot.

>> No.50537709

Tempiss status?

>> No.50537741

>>50537627
NTA, but I want my A-Soul gold

>> No.50537742

>>50537280
>>50537636
Exact. You cannot stop it, when it happens it happens. You can not get banned for posting a tally

>> No.50537752

>deflecting to sisters
As always

>> No.50537753

>>50537635
If you were a newfag you would think this was gossip general surrounding homo cocks.

>> No.50537766

>>50535916
>It makes no sense whatsoever.
Lol, lmao.

>> No.50537779

>>50537596
They would be successful if they had taken the Minecraft youtuber route. Making TEMPUS kinda like one of those gamer houses that League of Legends created for their teams but this one focused on Minecraft and whatever multiplayer game kids likes to watch.
Just steal ideas from mr beast or big minecraft youtubers and stream it

>> No.50537782

>>50537560
It is, but it doesn't include shit like XQC. If they ever make a board like that it would make sense from Vshojo to migrate there.

>> No.50537797

>>50537689
Persona was a buff for Bae until the game took a backseat to her retarded shitpost. And I can’t understand why people refuse to consider Zelda and DmC jrpgs

>> No.50537802

>>50535916
Everything makes perfect sense when you realize that Cover hates their female branches

>> No.50537804

>>50537697
Attempting means shit. Do it or shut up faggot

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