Puppet Masters

[Anonymous No.]

Here's an analysis on things I've noticed and compiled regarding zhang-related cover issues:

The facts:
-Artia originally looked up to Coco and Haachama (screenshot is posted around sometimes).
-Before the Taiwan happening, Coco requested how to stream in bilibili, and was ignored/denied, meaning there was already something wrong back then. Who was responsible?
-After the announcement of HoloCN graduation, but before the actual end. Artia and Civia made a stream announcing they were told they would be able to keep their models. Who lied to them? Was HoloCN management a chinese partner? bilibili? or normal Cover employees?
-There was an artificial anti-Artia campaign done by zhangs themselves, as talked extensively here, with screenshots: https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/4374806/#q4380993
-Taiwanbros said the core NGA spammers were doing the Coco spam for fun and MONEY (archive reps somewhere) (who paid them?)
-Last Hecatia(Artia) stream on twitch was Arknights. The story bothered her greatly, and she went on a long rant about how good people get manipulated into fighting each other for stupid reasons and for resources, all of which orchestrated by powerful people. As a notable fact, this was the only hecatia stream, as far as I know, with loserbait present in the viewers list. https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/2437106/#q2437720
After this stream, Hecatia was mostly confined to bilibili by her management, since she was kinda slacking on bilibili streaming.
-Coco's graduation message in simplified and traditional chinese, unlike other announcements
-Inmediately after Coco's graduation announcement, Hecatia tweeted the same "plebs fights each other for the puppet masters benefit" story again, this time saying it was from a movie. https://twitter.com/Hecatiaz/status/1402468199354933253
What is she trying to say? After this, she was completely confined to bilibili https://twitter.com/Hecatiaz/status/1402481209800740868
-Highly likely to be unrelated, but Cover does have chinese highups >>5034317


Massive rrat ahead:
Everyone, talents, fans... got fucking played like a fiddle, regardless of affiliation.
Someone powerful tried to both kill holoCN and Coco. I don't have enough clues to think Haachama's indefinite hiatus is related, since she already has her own personal issues but it could be. One of her long breaks (march) does coincide with when Coco said she told the other members about her graduating (3 months ago).
It's either someone associated with both bilibili and cover (like an investor) or bilibili itself. Bilibili tried a complete holoCN takedown but couldn't secure Cover's tech and model assets. They still benefit from the ex-holoCN talents being confined to bilibili though. And they did something similar with their own made gacha game vs its competition (arknights, genshin etc)
The Coco issue is retaliation for the TW thing, and to sanitize Cover for a potential return to bilibili. And of course it was them who paid the spammers.
I've compiled all this shit by myself following the events, streams, and threads since the start of the TW thing. Haven't read that "narukami rrat" yet if it is related.

[Anonymous No.]

I think we all know who the puppetmasters really are

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045011
All me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
Or, you know, Coco just resigned because she made a shitload of money, it's all just a coincidence, and chinese are people just like you and me?

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>>5045011
Fuckin Palpatine

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>>5044878
Interesting narrative, much further research is needed

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
I commend you for such an elaborated rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045168
>Coco just resigned
because Disney was threatening a legal suit for using Mickey Mouse voice

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>>5044878
Interesting rrat but
>Bilibili tried a complete holoCN takedown but couldn't secure Cover's tech and model assets.
You forgot they already OWNED Virtual Real and gained access to Nijisanji tech and 3D asset which is thousands times better than shit Cover used.

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>>5045168
>>5045168
OP is also saying that chinese people are no different from us. He is implying that chinese viewers too have been manipulated.
Also, I'm not sure Coco was making that much money considering Youtube cuts and Japan taxes.
Problem is, I don't see how anyone would benefit from it

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>>5045655
That's right. Even then, they still could have tried to take the whole of HoloCN as is, and then they'd have their own Nijisanji and Hololive inhouse owned versions.

>>5045732
The chinese side of the manipulation (both viewers and talents) was to inflame the nationalism issue to puppet them into a break from Cover, so they could grab em themselves.
That and the paid spammers, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

If they are going back to bilibili
What can we do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045957
guilt trip the redditors so they start shaming cover for kneeling to the communist party

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
So...
This just a big 4d chess play to gain part of the market in vtubers...

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>>5045655
While true at the point at which HoloCN were active Hololive, and by extension, HoloCN had a much bigger market share and occupied far more mental space in the chinese market than virtual real did. It could be less of a technology issue and more of a market share issue, they wanted to gain control of the biggest market leader in China's vtubing industry and it backfired spectacularly.

[Anonymous No.]

Agree with the rrat that everyone got played but it is not bilibili that did it. Go and look who is the top vtuber company on bilibili is now.

The vtuber group name is asoul, a vtuber project managed by ex tencent staff under yuehua entertainment company. They debuted exactly around the time coco yab happened. Go do your reps on yuehua company, they are pretty known for their scummy practice like hiring keyboard warriors to spam and slander competition, astroturfing and etc. It is probably them fanning the flames when the yab happened. They pretty much took over holo spot on bilibili now.

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>>5046339
>yuehua entertainment company
I know them as Kpop agency. So they're in vtubers industry too?
Also, it make sense too. Since this is kind of tactics happened just like the korean entertainment industry that being banned in China too for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046339
>Yueha
Huh, I recall that name getting brought up o various tawianese forums back when the Taiwan thing was in full swing. If I recall correctly that was the prevailing suspect on the taiwanese side too.

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>>5044878
>Hecatia tweeted the same "plebs fights each other for the puppet masters benefit" story again
Big if true.

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>>5045957
They are not. Have you seen the rules for that site? Not a single hololive streamer passes them.
Nor are they going back into a hostile Chinese market. It brings more issues than anything good.

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>>5046339
>>5046470
this is scummy as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
YES, Artia is the secret savior of humankind

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046339
Hmmmmmm...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046574
She couldn't save anyone...

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>>5044878
>After this stream, Hecatia was mostly confined to bilibili by her management, since she was kinda slacking on bilibili streaming.
https://twitter.com/Hecatiaz/status/1402481209800740868?s=20
An update to this, she's since tweeted that she has no plans to resume streaming on twitch. Make of that what you will

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>>5046498
Realistically, it's safe to assume the zhangs are just gonna keep on shitting up Twitter and Youtube after the graduation right?

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>>5046656
She had around 100-200 viewers or less on Twitch. Not sure how many she has on bilibili but at that point it was just a waste of time to stream there. Add onto that her management was getting mad she was still pandering to the west over china and it's not worth the headache.

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>>5046656
Those poor lost Ice Creams. Abandoned by their oshi.

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>>5046715
Yes, they are already spamming Aqua and planning on moving onto Fubuki next. I really fucking hope that what Coco said about leaving Hololive over creative differences is true and she isn't leaving to protect hololive from the chinks because her leaving isn't going to make them stop.

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>>5044878
Now this is more like it, actual investigative rrat making and not just "2ch/5ch/eceleb says"

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>>5046470
It is a china company that hires koreans and employs idol tactics. It is just weird that suddenly most holo bili translation group revolt against holo resulting in a bigger uncontrollable flame. It won't surprise me someone is throwing money at them to do it.

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>>5046795
>she was still pandering to the west over china
...she doesn't like the Chinese viewers that much huh

[Anonymous No.]

I ain't reading that, happy for you though or sorry that happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046876
Narukami's rrat has the facts on his side

[Anonymous No.]

But bugs kept spamming Coco even long after Hololive had left China. If this was just a struggle to dominate the Chinese market then there would be no need to keep rallying wolf warriors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045168
And remember that Cover won't be taking his cut for this month. All June money would be for Coco's roommate and the Japanese budget after YT cut.

Everyone who graduated fully got their profits for the last month of streaming, even chink whores.

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>>5046902
why not? she spearheaded the attack against coco in the name of communist china, she obviously loves her bugbrethren

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>>5044878
Op , I will give you last piece of this puzzle.

>They have another faction who spam Hololive.
> They got paid and they want destroy all JP vtuber industry not only Hololive.
> You should ask Artia about " Whitell"
> Whitell is Andy who organized attack Hololive
> Artia mod help Whitell( Andy ) existance.
> at this point, Artia may be accomplice of Andy and Artiafag cannot be trust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
>Bilibili tried a complete holoCN takedown but couldn't secure Cover's tech and model assets.
Knowing the insects modus operandi, this looks more than believable.

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>>5046937
Perhaps they originally funded it but stopped after they accomplished all their goals, and the ones who continued are the true autists who really bought into the propaganda. If you notice, the dislikes and spam dropped off significantly after HoloCN got canned last year, and it's only really the botscript that allows the remaining chinks to maintain a presence.

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>>5046937
Those seem to be a dedicated group of schizos just like some of the holo girls have already.
They fell into the sunken cost fallacy and couldn't give up until they lost, now that Coco is graduating they're feeling reignited and are going after more talents.

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>>5046937
It makes sense, the reason is that your own vtuber company can dominate the market if you get rid of your rivals, the attack is meant to destroy hololive entirely and it has a chance to succeed, that would explain why the zhangs are attacking Fubuki now

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>>5046798
They deserve it for trusting her

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>>5046574
She was at the center of the storm for a variety of reasons (including the zhang campaing linked in OP) so people focused on her, but she was just a nationalist moron and got played like everyone else. Nothing more nothing less. Misdirection at its finest.
Didn't attack Coco personally but her mods covered for the paid spammers. She's still a nationalist, but got blackpilled and has caught on being used, as seen in the things she's said on twitter and stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046937
well, they are still bugs trying to make themselves feel important, and if this is all true, no way that they know that they are being used

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045462
They will soon strike Pekoland castle.

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>>5046937
Bro. these zhangs are mentally ill and brainwashed by their own country, they do it for free, no one really needs to pay them to spam and harass. You just need to say the "T word" and you flip the switch.

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>>5047153
I remember her putting a clown frog in her twitter

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>>5047153
The funny thing is those paid spammer want to kill Artia too but her stupid mod just help them kill Artia

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>>5047036
Is there any merit getting Cover's tech? Bilibili have better 3D tech and live2d? Better ones exist.

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>>5046498
Dude laws in china don't work like that. Most of Bilibili vtubers also don't fit those criteria yet they keep streaming and getting millions of views. Those laws exist so that if they want to remove someone they can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047036
See this
>>5045655

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>>5046339
This. They destroyed Hololive presence on Bilibili to kill competition. It was really obvious that chink vtuber companies are fanning the flames.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047260
Rigging

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>>5046937
Those spammers left are just complete idiots who 100% believed muh patriotism bullshit.

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>>5047251
she's quite dumb to be honest
I assume the mod took the nationalist kool-aid and thought whitell and the spammers were fighting the good fight. That or he also got a bite of the spammers profit

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>>5044878
>Artia and Civia made a stream announcing they were told they would be able to keep their models. Who lied to them?
>implying lies
Maybe if they weren't backstabbing cunts cover wouldn't have changed its mind about that.

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>>5047310
Agree. This is Chink way

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046574
t. Heca

>>5046470
>2020年11月23日,推出樂華娛樂首個虛擬偶像計畫團體A-SOUL
Yes. And they debuted in a month after the incident.

>>5046339
Ex-Tencent staff huh? Then we can clearly say that they have backing in the fucking CCP. Because Big T IS the CCP.
Cover wasn't subdued like Niji and Virtual Real so they were a threat.

>>5046531
This is standard Chinese practice. Victory and no matter what is the cost. All methods are legal and every scummy tactic is permitted.
That's why their youth cheat in games and during education.
Just don't try to use their methods on them. They like to scam, but absolutely hate being scammed.

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>>5047441
They want Artia death and I tried to help her by tell Artia mod indirect way to investigate Whitell but those stupid piece of shit just help Whitell instead.

Whitell and Andy talked shit about Artia and want use her as disposeable trash but her mod just get in my way.

I sorry

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>>5047260
Rigging, avatars, and a decent pool of viewers. Foreigners too, who have more disposable income than chinks and you can covertly feed the propaganda to them later.

[Anonymous No.]

If they want to kill competition, why has Nijisanji been left unscathed, with both a CN branch and bilibili channels for their JP branch

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>>5046937
In addition to what the others have said, the remaining chink spammers are despised even by other nationalists and are treated basically on the same level as lolcows over there, so if they are being paid for it even after all this time someone paid alot of money to make themselves look like idiots.

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>>5047652
>standard Chinese practice.
Everything that /pol/ says about jews is absolutely true when it comes to Zhangs

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047734
They are rich Anon

Spam is cheap

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047731
Because Virtual Real already owned by Bilibili. So there is no need to burn them down. Also Nijisanji have strong support in Japan. Chinkjews fear the Samurai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047731
to be fair Nijisanji have no smudge yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047731
Nijisanji was never that big in China. Even after Hololive left a massive void in the market most of the fans just continued watching Hololive through less than legal means or jumped ship over to other domestic chubas instead of hopping onto Nijisanji.

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>>5047731
Nijisanji bent the knee a long time ago. They even called one of their attempts at a CN branch, Nijisanji Taipei.

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>>5047865
>>5047814
To add onto this, while Nijisanji does have a chinese branch, most of nijisanji jp has never streamed on or had much of a presence on bilibili, so they never had much of a following there and nobody in china really cares about them. It's the same reason why Keri never got much flak for making that virtual voldemort skit, nobody in china watched him so nobody cared.

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>>5047771
Well, they are "Jews of the East" for a reason.

>>5047731
One of the investor of NJSJ is the Chink company Legend Capital. Tazumi gobbled Chinese cock a long time ago.

Besides they don't have much value in the West unlike Cover.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/legend-capital

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>>5047685
whitell-andy probably were some of the paid ones.
One mod compromised makes a whole server compromised, and admin cant read them if they talk through DMs

[Anonymous No.]

If anyone wonders where the money comes from the CCP legit pays them for it. It is all part of their propaganda division. They pay people to make others look bad and China look good on the internet. I wouldn't be surprised if companies started using this to get paid and also eliminate competition.

So you start you Chinese based vtuber company because it is big but HoloCN is seen as a threat. Find out two of their talents said Taiwan in a stream and one is American (China hardcore push America as the enemy of the state). So you apply for some of that sweet propaganda budget and push HoloCN out of the market.

By the way, CCP is increasing the propaganda budget by a shit ton this year. They are now trying to make themselves look better online to other countries and REALLY pushing that America is the enemy. So get ready for all of that. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if some of the China defense you have all been seeing people do here are from people being paid. Bad enough they have all the white monkeys on Youtube rushing out to defend them for a pay check.

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>>5044878
Please do not use "though" at the end of your sentences.

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>>5048408
>By the way, CCP is increasing the propaganda budget by a shit ton this year.
Well of course, because they fucked up with a bioweapon.

>Bad enough they have all the white monkeys on Youtube rushing out to defend them for a pay check.
Marxist scum and tankies will do it for free.

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>>5048553
Why not?

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>>5047153
again you retarded fags whitell was a translator and not a mod. actual artia discord mods were basically EOP holofags that artia had met before she became artia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5048766
The EOP mods supported Coco harrassment

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know who give a massive budget to Cover in mid 2020?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
>-Before the Taiwan happening, Coco requested how to stream in bilibili, and was ignored/denied, meaning there was already something wrong back then. Who was responsible?
Incompetent, useless management. There's no proof there's anything more to that.
>-After the announcement of HoloCN graduation, but before the actual end. Artia and Civia made a stream announcing they were told they would be able to keep their models. Who lied to them? Was HoloCN management a chinese partner? bilibili? or normal Cover employees?
As far as I remember it was no one from Cover, but a China management part that wasn't fully related to Cover.
>-There was an artificial anti-Artia campaign done by zhangs themselves, as talked extensively here, with screenshots: https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/4374806/#q4380993
Artia was a whore who kept shitting on Coco using multiple secondary accounts.
Artia's a massive menhera and anything she says should be taken with a humongous grain of salt.

>I don't have enough clues to think Haachama's indefinite hiatus is related, since she already has her own personal issues but it could be.
See here: >>4998940

I doubt there's Chinese higher-ups in Cover. More likely there's a combination of several factors:
>Chinese shareholders putting pressure on Cover
>Cover being massively incompetent in every fucking regard, including management, rigging their models, taking care of their talents
>There's possible chinese sponsorships Cover wants to bite
>Cover has no idea how to handle Coco or Haato and, following Japanese work ethic, they kindly blocked them from doing anything until they leave on their own.

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>>5048553
Why though?

[Anonymous No.]

Money? They're literally copy pasting wikipedia articles into cubi.so to spam twitter. And running the botting scripts locally. This is all accomplishable by max a couple dozen schizos with no life for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5048408
Faggot most countries do this. Russian internet shill division is even bigger than China's. Hell, most large corps do this too.

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>>5049443
that's currently. There was a manual zhang spam wave initially, followed by at least 2 iterations of spambots. And the taiwanbros said money was involved. Could be that the initial wave was the paid one, and later on the most fanatical made use of spambots. See comments in the thread, and also the archive about how the spammer remnants are a NGA minority (they keep being doxxed by twbros)

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>>5049338
People keep talking about muh 7% but in reality Holos popular in China like FBK or Aqua were getting close to 50% of their revenue from there. Rest simply didn't manage to hit it big there yet but they were on the way.

It's no rocket science that shareholders told Cover to stop being fucking stupid and ghosting the largest market on Earth and like little pussies they are they obviously gave in. In half a year max they will be back on Bili and playing chink games.

EN doing way beyond expectations is probably the main reason why it even took so long.

[Anonymous No.]

At least youtube fixed their shit. Why does twitter even let applications like this use their API?

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't China just fuck off. Why haven't we bombed them again? God I hate them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5049338
>As far as I remember it was no one from Cover, but a China management part that wasn't fully related to Cover.
that's why I said it could be bilibili as the partner manager for cover doing business in china

Yes Artia is a massive menhera, but there's still 0 proof of personal attack on Coco and the only solid fact is "hold the line". It is clear she's a dumb nationalist and that's why she was so easy to use.

>I doubt there's Chinese higher-ups in Cover
Literally the proof is linked in OP, Juno S. planning director at Cover corp. I don't think she's involved in this but that's the fact.

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>>5046171
One of the biggest part tho

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>>5044878
>-There was an artificial anti-Artia campaign done by zhangs themselves, as talked extensively here, with screenshots: https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/4374806/#q4380993
>actually believing chink narratives that Artia dindu nuffin
Are you people retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

The ultimate schizo rrat -

Hololive as a whole is the result of a worldwide operation to keep folks depressed from everything going to shit from killing themselves while they fix the entire world government (this will often require the "have you tried turning it off and on again?" approach, so shit will get quite dark during 2020-21).

Timeline -

> Good guys try to insert their operatives into hololive and NijiSanji.
> Coco (USA, CIA Trained, shows high intelligence and maturity) was successfully inserted and shilled via the Youtube algorithm (which they took control of during the last year). Of course, she doesn't know any of it because she was mind wiped.
> Similar ops were attempted in NijiSanji and other agencies, but only hololive was a successful enough model to appeal to Western folks, so ops were concentrated there.
> CCP (the world's enemy) found out about this, and about the holo operatives working in China (holoCN girls) to "Westernize" their audience (and save the ones who weren't too deep into the CCP brainwash). They started a shitfit in order to try and remove all this Western influence from their internet, but carefully avoided putting their name on anything so that it wouldn't turn into an international incident.
> Good guys' agents eliminated from China, but they couldn't touch Coco, so the CCP targeted the organization as a whole.
> Good guys used this attack in order to turn pretty much anyone non-political watching chuubas into having a negative opinion of China/CCP.
> People tired of politics and trying to have fun with chuubas come to vehemently hate the CCP.
> Public Opinion is prepared.
> After sufficient algorithm based holo-shilling on Youtube, introduce EN chuubas with at least one "shark" operative. Sharks live under water (water = info) have a great sense of smell and hunt other animals. If hololive had not succeeded, there were alternatives prepared at NijiSanji and other agencies.
> Joe Biden was temporarily installed as US President so that they could get the US govt to do all sorts of bad shit without placing the blame on Trump, like shutting down the economy via GameStop etc.
> The shark reaching 3M marks the "completion" of the operation. Thus, Coco's job is complete, and she will be assigned to where she actually wants to work.
> This coincides with the Arizona audit completing and the world realizing that the current US president is fake.
> US and Japan already moving ships to Taiwan to prepare for the invasion of the mainland.
> The dominos will start to fall after July 1. The message sent here is that the "Dragon" (Chinese often call themselves that) will be "ending" on the 100th anniversary of the CCP. The CCP will be destroyed on that day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046470
twice ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5049922
I honestly prefer the "Coco is a CIA plant meant to implant negative feelings towards china in young men" rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>5049765
>but there's still 0 proof of personal attack on Coco
Aside from the logs from her private discord? Please.
>>5049637
>People keep talking about muh 7% but in reality Holos popular in China like FBK or Aqua were getting close to 50% of their revenue from there
Give me the source of those numbers, Mason.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202106/1225911.shtml
thread relevant

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>>5050045

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So now I have a question. Are the ones defending Cover here. The ones saying Cover did and has never done anything wrong on this board and elsewhere.

Are those actually Zhang shills? Obviously not all of them are there are many useful idiots but the amount of people defending Cover management is just off especially considering we have a 2 page post of all the horrible desicions and borderline malicious things they've done to talents.

Glad my oshi is indie and has declared she will be indie until the day she dies because fuck this shit.

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>>5050045
>Aside from the logs from her private discord?
post proofs of her direct involvement, and not of that whitell faggot we all know about

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>>5050220
In few years everybody would have FBK %. At least that's 100% what shareholders think.

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>>5044878
>but couldn't secure Cover's tech and model assets
I highly doubt anyone at Bilibili is looking to stealing Cover's tech. If anything Bilibili has better tech than Cover. For example Revdol's mo-cap is better than anything I've seen besides Kizuna AI. Even pic related, an indie with around 10k subs has better mocap than Cover. Have you seen a mocap 3D RFA stream from Hololive? Might as well be a static avatar while random indies in China have full range of motion.

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>>5050342
Why would zhangs defend cover?
It's a combination of people who don't see what good would come out of blaming cover and people who want to not tear down everything Coco's built.

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>>5049637
>but in reality Holos popular in China like FBK or Aqua were getting close to 50% of their revenue from there
That's why Aqua and Fubuki will be wheelbarrowed. To eliminate every and single visible threat to the sweat RMBs of a domestic market.

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>>5049922
Fuck, I like this narrative. This is something on the level of Tom Clancy.

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>>5050992
Why is everything a threat to these bugs? I have never seen a country so fragile as China in my life. They are perpetually butthurt about everything.

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>>5049922

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>>5050992
you might be right on the money anon
Usual rrats say it's because fubuki and aqua's popularity, betrayal etc, but in reality it could be that they're gonna strike the biggest market threat first to secure their market
All of this makes too much sense

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>>5051421
Imagine the Skaven from when, every thing is to to be betrayed and eated and every thing will try to betray and eat you, take everything and give nothing at all cost before you're eventually betrayed by the rest of the skaven and your shit goes into feeding the writhing mass

[Anonymous No.]

>>5051421
Century of humiliation, Chinese autism, communist propaganda, hyper-nationalism, language barrier, internet firewall and it doesn't help that America was pretty close to dropping 30-50 nukes on China

[Anonymous No.]

>>5051748
CIA kun...
You forgot to make sure to save it as a gif

[Anonymous No.]

>>5049922
Meds

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>>5051421
A bad mix of chinky passive-aggressiveness and Soviet insecurities. USSR was just as bad, except they don't have internet and companies avoided them back then.
Recently I burned a solid pile of their old propaganda and so I saw enough.

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>>5051867
They should've done it, that's the only mistake the US ever made

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>>5044878
Any narrative where snake rat artia is not a villain is a shit rrat

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>>5044878
I've been saying this back then, but everyone ignored me.
Not the fanbase, not the company, or CCP, or the talent. They're all smokescreen to cover slimy piece of shit that is Bilibili.
It's a deal gone sour for both Bilibili and Cover, BiliBili wanted exclusive rights for HoloFes and their tech if CN were to continue streaming on the platform. BiliBili don't want HoloEN project to proceed, because that will kill HoloCN and its deranged autist users. It's not even about money issue, but they wanted exclusive rights for Hololive branding that they can abuse by slowly peeling away Cover from the whole business.

Reminder Tencent is the rival company to Bilibili, and helped Coco squash the bugs in her stream. Added with the fact Botan is playing Tencent mobile game, and Epic Store games in the future (Fortnite, Rocket League, etc).
I can see that Cover is looking forward to get back into China, and Tencent might be the Electric Boogaloo that Yagoo is looking for. But I really don't think they will go for another HoloCN branch.

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>>5051867
>Century of humiliation
They can't fight. Do they even win a single non-civil war where zhangs were the aggressor? Even weakened Vietnam tore their asses in 1979.

>>5052043
US should start to relocate factories to pajeets.

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>>5051867
Only mistake we made.

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>>5052425
>Even weakened Vietnam tore their asses in 1979
Vietnam just turning around and beating the shit out of all it commie neighbors right after the Vietnam war was the funniest shit ever, they probably feel super fucking proud about it

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>>5052425
China would not be the size it is if they always lost. Their problem is that whenever they get rid of one group another shows up. Got rid of the Huns? Here comes the Turks, got rid of the Turks? Here comes the Mongols. Get rid of the Mongols? Here comes the Japanese. Got rid of the Japanese? Here comes Europe, and then Japan again. Got rid of Japan? Here comes America.

Most Chinese expansions are into the West along the silk road, and into Vietnam. Vietnam actually has a history of nearly a thousand years under China, or at least that's the duration Vietnamese cite when complaining about China

[Anonymous No.]

SKYRIM COMING TO SMARTFRIDGES 2021

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>>5050220
That's not their revenue, that's just how much SC they got. And not only is SC not their only income, they got a much smaller cut from bilibili in the first place.
Also Aqua is at 22% how is that close to 50% you retard.

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>>5044878
I have to say those (((Artia))) twitts and her connection with loser are interesting to say the least, especially the second one https://twitter.com/Hecatiaz/status/1402468943957159940 the way she talks about it seems like it's some rich dude rather than organization, perhaps it's this NGA ultranationalist moderator that was apparently very much into Vtubers and somehow connected with Holo CN (they said he fucked them or something like that) https://twitter.com/ywwuyi/status/1402400551271346176

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>>5047731

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>>5048408
I believe because
>stop asian hate! XD
and because america elected a male Dilma Rousseff
What will happen to Cover now? Will they sell themselves to chinks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
Bilibili or someone else wanting to use the incident to elbow Cover out of the Chinese vtuber market so they can field their own store brand vtubers makes a lot of sense and people having been speculating about that since the beginning. Anyone actually caring about Coco or Haachama as individuals and being willing to chase them for 9 months doesn't, those are actual obsessed Chinese nationalists that haven't let it go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046328
Holo CN never had the numbers, chinese fans cared only about the JP holos pretty much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5054660
>perhaps it's this NGA ultranationalist moderator
So ywwuyi (aka 爽哥), pic related. Kantaifag, Tencent employee and loyal CCP dog.

https://zh.moegirl.org.cn/Ywwuyi

[Anonymous No.]

Artia WILL come back to twitch
I can't live without her concentrated autism.

In regards to the OP post, I don't know who the puppetmasters are, but did you know that Artia learned some Hebrew before starting at hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045168
this was a great rrat until
>chinese are people just like you and me?
ogey

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>>5044878

OP sounds like Trump, finding blame in China with no evidence and only empty speculation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5054660
He is in the photo.
https://zh.moegirl.org.cn/Ywwuyi

He is a local e-celebrity and has money, sure, but he clearly lacks the power to remove the company from the market. Simple CCP lapdog, not even in the high ranks of their local food chain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5056697
Ok, chang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5048408

US recently announced a budget of $300B per year to produce propaganda to counter asia's rise in global influence (not just China), so you're argument is weak given all countries do the same thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>5056937
Except the world is now suffering from Chinkflu, not US flu.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.patreon.com/Hecatia

Look at these reward tiers.
I like Tia but it's moments like these where I just want to grab her Shoulders and yell "do you really belieb that your fans love you this much?!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5048408
This explain why 4chan are flooded with zhangs gou now, someone troll them in /pol few days ago and expose 200+ Zhang gou using leaf flag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045168
>and chinese are people just like you and me?
no
they have no will
the only ones that you can save are the ones born 30 seconds ago at max

[Anonymous No.]

>>5057198
Give links

[Anonymous No.]

>>5056759
Changs are the taiwanese, the mainlanders are zhangs.

[Anonymous No.]

>be [???], an unnamed agent, probably bilibili.
>want to kick Cover out of China
>start campaing to "either fire coco or get cover out of china", verbatim.
>start alternative campaign on reddit to get cover out of china
>manage to get cover out of china
man they mustve gotten SO pissed when both sides of a conflict joined together to do the thing one side set out to do. what a troll on the people that wanted cover out of china and explicitly said they wanted cover out of china, got them good. they really lost this time, achieving their original goal.

Artia (and the rest of the CNs) had jack shit to do about this. It was, at best, a backroom deal between Cover and ???, simply just getting the "hololive" brand the fuck out of the chinese market; and Cover dropping the ball and losing the tug-o-war against ???, simply just losing.
Had to close the CN division, lost a bunch of revenue, had their chat spammed for months, most likely influenced their stance on big projects like asacoco and haachama's horror thing, definetly influenced coco's graduation,... They really got very little if anything out of this.

You, like the CNs, like the JPs, like the japanese viewers and like reddit, were played. They got you a hilariously mistranslated google docs thing, out of context screenshots and entry-level narratives. They got them mistranslated captures (never clips) about what coco said, how ks*n thought out of stream, how cover was basically killing indies, how cover was planning to react to the spam, cropped and mistranslated posts from here and reddit and twitter.
But Artia liked Coco before being told she hated her, and Coco liked Artia and was learning chinese before being told they hated her.

You were lied to and you knew it and you fucking loved it. You, like them, loved spamming and shitting on streamers and the twitter-tier drama going on for months, milking every tweet and every title and spending hours shopping Coco on propaganda war posters. They did the same, they also loved it.
When you need to understand the "but why?" piece of the puzzle just remember your post history.

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>>5057198
Where links?

[Anonymous No.]

yep, fubuki is next
>>5052946
Which was the top moneymaker in china. What a coincidence! >>5047052

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045257
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEV!

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>>5049038
Being paid in coochie...

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>>5057757
Little do they realize Coco threw herself on the sword to inspire Fubuki, who will defeat the Zhangs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046929
Perhaps, but there's a difference between "Here are the facts x y z, and this is the conclusion I've drawn based on those facts and a b c" and "Bah bah Japanese keemstar said Bah bah if you disagree you're a chink bah bah mhmm I do love sucking nrkm's dick"

[Anonymous No.]

>Tenecent funding bot spammers to get jap vtubers out of china

It makes everything make sense. It just all fits and lines up with chink international business practices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5056937
>US recently announced a budget of $300B per year to produce propaganda to counter asia's rise in global influence (not just China)
What did you get this info from? The only $300 Bn anything signed into law was for infrastructure for shit like battery and chip production AFAIK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058065
It's also really simple yet at the same time deep. As you said, it's what you'd expect of chinese practices, but only in hindsight. If you didn't know, you'd still be chasing ghosts.

>>5058444
Not that anon, but I'd believe it, if only because propaganda is always a well-funded department unless your country is third-world, falling apart, or both (like mine).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047052
Hololive isn't gonna be destroyed over some spambots, you moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058514
Remember that it's still controlled by retarded nipponese businessmen educated a thousand times that still believe fax is the global communication standard. They just need some pushes and they're gonna destroy themselves.

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>>5058065
>>5058510
I doubt it's tencent, if tencent really wanted to fuck with hololive they can do alot more damage by removing apex permissions, for example. Yuehua is a more likely suspect

[Anonymous No.]

>>5057603
Everyone agreed that saving the CN branch was super important, at least on Twitter and reddit, and Coco and Haachama needed to be suspended to save those poor girls. Until Cover canned them, then it was a sad but inevitable fallout of the situation. The /pol/ level anti-Chinese vitriol here did not influence anything in regards to CNs fate. The fact that the whole branch was a hostage chip that could be be fucked with by anyone in China, whether random nationalists, shady corporations, or the government (and all of these things blend together anyway, it's the same apparatus) anytime they wanted to lean on Cover about anything, is what did them in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045732
>how anyone would benefit from it
bili, by grabbing that massive JP audience.

First however, they would have to sanitize to keep the platform userbase stable, but sudden western audience explosion threw a big fucking wrench in the plan.
For-mentioned explosion caused promotional deal prices to skyrocket, and the steady dollar/euro feed(strong currencies) just jams the gears even further.

now, Would they still commit to it after so many setbacks, I don't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058657
Isn't Apex EA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
What a fucking autistic larp. Hololive isn't managed by Kojima. You're spending way too much time trying to dig for answers OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058510
The us doesn't need to fund propaganda itself. We have political campaigning for that and China gave us a couple of big excuses to mess with them. What the US does do is provide black budget for clandestine operations (SOCOM/CIA shit) and the top secret R&D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058972
Yes, so I don't know what the fuck >>5058657 is talking about. Tencent does own Riot though, but Hololive hasn't played any Chinese-owned games in recent memory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058853
This, Hololive EN fucked the plan good. They definitely didn't expect it and Yagoo kept them under the wraps. There is no fucking way EN and CN will coexist considering today's political climate.

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>>5058768
>twitter and reddit wanted Coco and Haachama suspended
No one in reddit or twitter sided with china. Actually, siding with china in general on reddit, even if you're objectively right about a non-political issue, will get you downvoted to hell and maybe even banned depending on the subreddit. Reddit practically ran the free hong kong op.
hololive reddit saw CN's graduation as a regrettable side effect of being evil chinamen. If you go back to the october threads you can see the telltale reddit spacing and complete lack of board culture and inside knowledge (people thinking the "what cover should do" copypasta was zhang spam, for example).
No one thought saving the CN branch was "super important", especially on reddit, because no one knew any CN except Artia (and even then no one watched her) and Coco did meme review on actual, literal reddit.
Dont try to twist the narrative PLEASE, its already bad enough as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5046929
But not Occam’s razor

[Anonymous No.]

>>5048553
Kys though

[Anonymous No.]

Its really sad to me that these operations will get lost forever in the stream of history. Some bili pr exec does half a dozen well-placed posts in three or four websites and a whole section of the internet catches fire for months and the biggest vtuber company is on their way to irrelevancy if they lose korone (hinted at graduation), fbk (next spam target) and pekora (will leave if they threaten her career) on top of coco.
They didnt even have to do anything, nga and reddit just went at it with almost no provocation.
The difference in power between the great backstage actors of history closing deals and starting wars and me, just screaming to a screen when i get upset, is titanic. This is minor but just the fact someone has the insight and mental capacity to do this is massive.

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>>5044878
>After the announcement of HoloCN graduation, but before the actual end. Artia and Civia made a stream announcing they were told they would be able to keep their models. Who lied to them?
I think the question is why did THEY lie, and the answer is to put pressure on Cover to let them keep their models. Unless they thought that Cover would be willing to keep lending them their tech for free. I know Artia is retarded, but even that has to have limits. Putting that expectation on Cover was their best bet. Didn't work out for them though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5060581
most of history has worked like that anon
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

[Anonymous No.]

>>5060792
They thought Reddit and the larger hololive community at large would put pressure on Cover.
They forgot Reddit and the rest of the community did not give two shits about the CN branch and were in full China hate mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5060792
That was the old theory. But DYRB that they themselves negotiated everything with Cover, and not CN management, who was most likely the china business partner? Do you really think they were capable of masterminding a model takeover? Nah, CN management lied to them to control the negotiations and keep them happy while it was going.

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>>5060982
I don't think the whole thing was masterminded by them, I think this particular "give us models" was the last attempt of Artia and Civia to not leave empty-handed. Doesn't make sense why it was only two of them that were open with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5060893
>were in full China hate mode
Pretty sure that if kung flu didn't happen, Coco would've been graduated there and the CN branch would be in control of bilibili.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061178
reddit hated china since the hongkong redditor psyop. it never had anything to do with the chink flu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061280
>hongkong redditor psyop
Details?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061178
You never meet a chink? The only one who I can say they don't hate chink after dealing with them are the elites or faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061321
the "free hongkong revolution of our times five demands not one less" movement was created and pushed on reddit. Initially as backlash for the blizzard mei hong kong thing, it practically took over the site in a week.
reddit is probably the most anti-china place on the internet right now.
Its also worth noting reddit is NOT blocked in china.

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>>5044878
>Haven't read that "narukami rrat" yet if it is related.
Narukami rrat is basically the simplified version of what you posted, that CN sponsors and management conspired to push Coco out. Your rrat pushes the envelope further and implies it's actually higher level CCP meddling and an attempt to steal tech and assets from Cover. This kind of fits with the general Chinese product development ethos which is to steal everything and then sell it cheaper and keep all of the profit.

That said, I don't really buy the rrat. There were a lot of bullshit rrats flying around when the big YAB first happened that have since been proven false so I don't take any of them beyond face value anymore, until an *actual* insider speaks up.

The biggest issue is the complaints that stuff Coco wanted to were being rejected has happened to literally everyone. Aqua, Pekora and Korone have all complained about plans they had that got shitcanned by management.

I still suggest that the most likely biggest issue with management is that the direction Cover wants to go, and Coco, are ultimately incompatible. Cover knows they need to be more family friendly if they want to continue to grow which means more restrictions on talent and I can see Coco getting annoyed trying to keep up with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061468
Foreigners can be anti-China so long as they don't mention Taiwan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061526
>Cover knows they need to be more family friendly
And that would be their demise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061719
Like it or not, that is where the money is. WWE went PG and never looked back because it made them more money than they could have imagined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058514
You clearly don't have enough foresight anonchama, what happens after Fubuki graduates?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061526
Based meds taker

[Anonymous No.]

>>5062152
Oblivion, like what happened to Unlimited

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>>5061158
because they were the only ones who could speak english and they were excited, or CN management wanted them to say it to add pressure. Just like with the leaked Aqua cover, it wasnt them who leaked it, but these idiots were used to spread it. All of which ended up terminating them, for the benefit of the real brains behind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063009
Also, I still have a screenshot from that time. They didnt know shit about the actual negotiations, they got drip fed info from CN management as they went

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061468
Reddit is both massively anti-china, but also the china subreddit (I think it's "sino") is on turbopropaganda mode, denying Tiananmen Square, calling USA terrorists and the likes

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>>5063009
>>5063093
That would imply they were braindead, which I think is believable.
Is there is any reasonable explanation why most of their mods were connected to spammers until the last day? Surely they would get rid of them, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063374
My rrat? They don't have control over some of the mods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063483
What I was trying to ask is why the fuck would you stream knowing somebody that helped to destroy (not only) your career will be moderating it. Even if you don't agree with what they did, you will be connected to them. Hell they were not really trying to hide it.

Unless I'm to believe that Artia and Civia both lost all of their braincells that month, they at the very least didn't give a fuck about it, meaning that they were ready to abandon ship.

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>>5063374
>>5063483
>>5063720
Artia ended up replacing mods two times at least, after the fact. And many left by themselves. I think the old head mod was the one who covered the spammers, but it's hard to know who exactly was the mod (exeon? I dont have proof currently) since they mostly wiped the server after she reincarnated.

(whitell the spammer is that laoken guy, he changed name. White name means no roles, not even the basic one, so kicked out. The others following the post dont have mod roles)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063720
>they at the very least didn't give a fuck about it
Probably this. They may already know how it all works there and noticed that it was all fire.

>>5044878
>>5052398
I present you a bigger rrat. Now that bili's approach of complete and total domination (the usual chinese way) failed, they're gonna go with the Tencent approach as an olive branch (just permissions) to slowly warm themselves to Cover over time again, becuase nip businessman are retarded.
Who, you ask? The CCP themselves, because even they tried to enter the vtuber market with their propaganda chuubas, who crashed on arrival. They know that subtly sending messages through chuubas is another way for propaganda, and it wouldn't cost them that much in the long term.

[Anonymous No.]

2 questions
1) can tencent and to a larger extent china, along with whatever investors there are in cover, worm their way back into hololive through permissions? I cant imagine china just giving up on hololive, especially with how big they've gotten
2) is anyone aware that artia reset her discord and wiped everything? I dont see that fact mentioned, and just before the wipe, mega archives of her streams and other stuff (even some discord shit, cant remember what) was posted

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
OP of this thread is Artia!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063893
well both bili2 and tencent are known to have CCP ties so...

>>5064061
2) just was mentioned here >>5063884
No idea if anyone still has those archives available

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063884
This faggot riwl08. This is what I was asking about, right before the discord reset, he posted links of arita's disocrd (emotes and logs). Though without screenshots this post amounts to nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>5052425
>They can't fight. Do they even win a single non-civil war where zhangs were the aggressor?

Yes plenty. How do you think a continent sized country survived for thousands of years if it only lost wars?

China only really went to shit with Qing dynasty.

[Anonymous No.]

We will never know the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063201
anyone can make a subreddit, they're like discord servers. unless you seriously break some sort of federal law reddit global mods WERE retardedly lax on actually moderating things, revenge porn subreddits and photoplunder, dedicated to running bots on photobucket to catch uploaded nudes before they were privated, only got shut down a couple years ago after running for around a decade.
reddit is the classic online-only fiscally conservative socially liberal libertarian, and therefore colossaly anti-china everywhere except china safespace subreddits.
This changed when T_D started doing on reddit what /pol/ did on 4chan and they banned them, triggering a massive banwave on every political subreddit that "promoted fascism". Sino is next on the chopping block, reddit has been running a "china killed 600 million babies during one child policy and is 100 times as bad as hitler was" so I'd be very surprised if it got to next september without being quarantined. Depends on how well it catches on, if the CIA starts the HK protests again they'll probably can sino and quarantine hard-left communist subreddits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063884
>Artia ended up replacing mods two times at least
Good on her.
>after the fact
Because they turned on her, or because it took her months to realize that they are rats, that people were pointing at since day one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064461
Honestly, I have no idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063201
is there a subreddit for the falun gong devotees?
or for their propaganda arm: newsweek, epoch times, new tang dynasty, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064461
Where did her mods come from? Are they bilibili fans, fans from yt/reddit info about holoCN and artia, or were they hired/added by her manager?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5061526
Anon please. The right answer is probably ALL OF THE ABOVE.

Influential chinks worked in the shadows to organize an army of rrats to attack Coco, chama and the CN branch while bureaucratic tomfoolery took place behind the scenes. CN was ejected for being a liability (VirtuaReal is separate from niji to a degree, which insulates them a bit more from this sort of attack) This hurt cover's brand image, allowing Chinese agencies a greater advantage in the vtubing space while letting whoever's backing the ex-cn talents (their models are much higher spec) pick up the talent on the rebound.

Coco's abrasive reaction, coupled with cover not letting her apologize properly in order to spare themselves shame, made her the easiest target in order to continue attacking hololive to drive down their popularity relative to Chinese domestic streamers funded by tencent and others. Traitors chinks within the company used their own influence to passive aggressively harass and sabotage her (as well as chama to a lesser degree) until she quit due to artificially and maliciously created creative roadblocks. Huge win for Chinese agencies as Coco was the poster bitch and driving force behind Cover's broader global outreach. She talked about hololive es which the company and thus the chinks would've known about before us.

Coco's part ends here. She's going on her farewell tour. Haachama will likewise follow suit. Her being blocked from collabing with the en girls was a canary in the coal mine. The changs presumably let up because insiders informed them that she's planning to quit after Coco. Now they're switching to Fubuki because she's Cover's mascot.

Tldr the Coco incident was a tactic for a broader strategy of exploiting cover's own administrative ineptitude in order to take them out of the (cn) market and make way for talents and agencies approved of by President pooh bear. This rrat makes the most sense given that the underlying goal seems to be the acquisition of tech and profit.

Between artia vaguely whining like a bitch on Twitter because she can't keep secrets and her probably being HERE (along with Risu), it's reasonable to believe that there was massive institutional fuckery going on surrounding Hololive's relationship with China. And now they're gonna get lured right back into it with the promise of sponsorship money because IT'S NEVER OVER.

This is the legendary super rrat that's gone even further beyond hating Coco because she's American.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064061
>I cant imagine china just giving up on hololive, especially with how big they've gotten
They're not big at all where it matters, any big streamer is still bigger than hololive and vtubers are still in the "hot new thing" phase. Pokimane still has three times the google searches Gura does and Gura has three to ten times the numbers of a majority of corporate vtubers let alone indies.
If bilibili or tencent want to capitalize on vtubers they'll make their own and they can shill them on any of their billion games and channels.

You're not putting this into perspective. People used to say Kizuna Ai was the AOL of vtubers but only time can tell is Hololive is the facebook or the myspace. Its three graduations away from falling behind nijisanji and nijisanji is two graduations away from falling into obscurity.
Hololive is not a threat at all, its barely an investment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5057603
>But Artia liked Coco before being told she hated her
So that why she recently chinking in a passive-aggressive manner, reacting to the hiatuses and graduations? Because she like Coco?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064529
I respect that you at least showed something, but I was only convinced that Artia is absolutely braindead and was always sending mixed signals, and always late.

For all I know it might be that she realized that she fucked up, but it's too little too late.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5057757
>yep, fubuki is next
Fubuki is hardened by NicoNico autists, they can do shit to her. Youtube also implemented anti-chink measures with Coco chat as a testing ground.

Long spam sessions are counterproductive, zhang. Companies adapt and find ways to protect themselves. Even incompetent ones such as Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064641
>Now they're switching to Fubuki because she's Cover's mascot.
Taking FBK down both causes a domino effect and also means taking down the one who had the highest chinese market share back then and thus the biggest market threat along with Aqua

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064814
>"they fired me to save you and now they're firing you to save themselves look at that! who would've known!"
From the moment Artia did the unhinged pepe clown world guerrilla stream, she already knew she had been played by both sides and she was getting clowned out of her job and career. Months of delays and half truths from both the CN managers and Cover just to get the "oh yeah youre fired btw" letter.
Coco did the celebration stream coming back and now she's "leaving hololive" because she too got played like a fucking fiddle same as Artia. Saying "plebs fights each other for the puppet masters benefit" is not passive-aggresive, its just objectively correct. People in Coco's chat yelling at the chinese and chinese in NGA yelling at the americans while whoever gets richer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5063374
If you were a streamer how would you know what your mods do on their free time? ENma could be the biggest mori spammer and you'd literally never know.
More so with fucking discord mods. Literally how would you know?

[Anonymous No.]

you guys are so fucking stupid. i'm seriously surprised you retards know how to write semi-legible english given you're so mentally retarded.

1. bilibili kicked cover out of china because cover just did restreams leeching views from other vtubers.
2. cn branch got canceled because cover got kicked out by bilibili. most likely they didn't want to do any kinda asset transfer cause they were butthurt about getting kicked out.

overall it doesn't matter at all and makes no difference. a single day in an event like bml costs more money than cover makes in an entire year. every single event bilibili hosts is bigger than cover's entire operation. they're nothing but some irrelevant small vtuber company.


the whole spam shit that's going on with coco is unrelated to bilibili you fucking retard subhuman scums. it's incel nationalist island zhang vs incel nationalist mainland zhangs. the whole thing is just a proxy fight between incel zhang's battling each other.

you fucking retards eat every turd island zhang shit into your mouth ignoring they're a bunch of schizo nationalist spammers/trolls themselves. both sides of zhang decided to fight each other using coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058768
Reddit is pretty heavily anti-China, despite all their enclaves like r/sino, GenZedong, and a fuckton of dumb tankies.
If they won't censor the subreddits you would saw a different situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064814
>>5064934
Artia was naive, retarded and probably misled. You know, just like chinks in general. I figure she's wised up a little since then and probably hates herself for trusting her fellow chinks. Especially after they wouldn't let her stream on twitch at all, which she genuinely seemed to be interested in.

The more people learn, the more it seems like all of this was part of a psyop. The goal seems to be dominating chinks' attention via domestic chubas whose profits can be extracted while using them as communist mouthpieces. It makes sense that if China is afraid of war, they'd be interested in wielding complete control an army of female propagandists whom people are emotionally invested in. I'd wager the rrat extends beyond vtubing and goes into streaming in general. It's probably part of a broader strategy to monopolize the flow of information in China in order to foment national loyalty and fuel their war machine.

The long and short of it appears to be that pol's always right and china's causing chaos in the vtubing sphere as a means of shoring up their influence in preparation for world war 3. We don't even know the rest of the plan because it likely extends beyond just vtubing and into all other areas of entertainment that they're noticeably involved in.

>>5064955
As a ctuber, Fubuki is vulnerable involvement with various enterprises outside of youtube. Note how the commie kikes in America took youtubers down by attacking their funding sources like PayPal and patreon. Even if youtube and cover are fortified, both her personal life and the services she uses as both a citizen and a ctuber are still an attack vector they might use. And because people aren't necessarily blackpilled or prepared for it, they might not see that any attack of Fubuki is in fact a deliberate effort to delegitimize an entertainment company competing for the attention and good will of people in mainland China.

>>5065364
>both sides of zhang decided to fight each other using coco.
Shitty rrat. They didn't stop at cn, Coco or chama. They moved on to aqua and Fubuki. It's not a theory anymore. This is an obvious conspiracy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058853
>bili, by grabbing that massive JP audience.
Bili as a site looks like utter shit. It's like a worse NicoNico with a design that can fucking kill epileptics.
Not a single non-chink will be comfortable there. It's like nigger donks. You know, those brighly painted cars on huge wheels. Who looks like shit, drives like shit, but the owner of the car thinks it's cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5065461
>They didn't stop at cn, Coco or chama
no kidding you fucking retard idiot. they're a bunch of schizo nationalist who just pick new shit to fight over and spam about. the island zhang incel schizo nationalist spam and love to fling shit everywhere just like the schizo mainland nationalist.

every single time some vtuber on youtube gets popular on bilibili the island zhang schizo spam and try to make them some proxy fight. both incel zhang's just use whatever the fuck they can grab to fight each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5065364
>ignoring the taiwanese are a bunch of schizo nationalist spammers
People dont care about taiwan or hongkong or any other group within china more than beverly hills people care about blm. Its political posturing against china, not pro-tibet.
You think people seriously give a single fuck about they uyghurs? If they were anywhere else they'd be mudslime towelhead terrorists.
People side with taiwan because they're nationalist spammers themselves, just not from taiwan.

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>>5045168
>chinese are people
Regardless of the Coco situation, no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5065668
islang zhang incel nationalist spam everywhere and always mention themselves. even though retard redditors are npc who just copy whatever they see upvoted, who the fuck would say taiwan #1 unironically except some island zhang incel? they're civil losers who have to try and beg the west for protection constantly. not even israeli go around bragging like island zhang incels do about themselves and israel is way more successful.

even on /vt/ there's island zhang schizo nationalist who spam every cn vtuber topic and rrat everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064758
>Hololive Production

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>>5064230
>How do you think a continent sized country survived for thousands of years if it only lost wars?
Usually, by doing scams, "divide and conquer" shit and have naked barbarians as your enemies. Which were proved by Mongols and Jurchens who weren't naked barbarians and installed their own dynasties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5065913
Its a google topic. It aggrupates anything that has to do with hololive probably up to shigure and maybe even uto. This is really "all of hololive".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5065461
> world war 3
there wont ever be a world war 3. There's not WW2, the two wars are most commonly referred as a single conflict in two parts.
Saying "WW3 with China" is like saying "Spanish Civil War 2 with Norway and Angola" thats not how it works.

There's not even going to be a war, the military arms race made wars (boots on ground, army against army) obsolete. This doesnt happen anymore you have satellite footage you can use to read a newspaper and reaper drones going 300 mph. Military strength is a cope because a bunch of well terror sneak attacks can cripple a country for a week and you dont even need a trained man to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>pol thread still up
>my attempt at identifying phase connect chubas HERE got deleted

Time for a few new rrats:

Vtubing is potentially a propaganda battleground where a small proxy war is being raged. We know china at the very least is confirmed to be participating in active subversion and psyops.

Coco or Cover may be CIA adjacent. Why Hololive ES? Maybe to increase unity in the world. Why was she learning Chinese? Maybe to pander to China. Maybe to make inroads and deradicalize chinks.

Vt itself is part of a counter psyop just like all boards on the 4chan honeypot. Rrat threads stay up and musings about Chinese misconduct are allowed despite being pol adjacent.

Phase connect's astroturfing, western origins and multilingual roster may or may not be a part of THE PLAN. Same with tsunderia and kawaii. We don't know what kind of money is flowing into western and japanese agencies or where it might be coming from. There could be larger state or corporate actors involved in "the scene.

Indonesia is near mainland China but largely not on the western world's radar. Despite that, they're considered a prominent presence in the vtubing sphere. Is it due to good will within japan? Wanting to tap the indo market? The indos speak a lot of English and seem to be from influential families. Is it an easy inroad to spreading and shoring up positive western alliance sentiment within Indonesia?

Shadow influence might be the real rabbit hole, which would explain China playing the psyop game to undermine foreign companies. If company vtubers are unironically being used, knowingly or not, as a means of spreading western cultural hegemony to combat china's growing influence in the world, then there's no telling what kinds of moves are being made behind closed doors that even the vtubers themselves might not be aware of.

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>>5065992
Chinks defeated Mongols and their predecessors countless times. They fucked Huns ancestors so bad they ran away to Europe.

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>>5065461
>They moved on to aqua and Fubuki.
They won't move shit. Bugmen spammed one old FBK's roommate video on Twitter since the start of that shitshow. Because they butthurt that Fubuki chose her colleague over almost 50% of her income and stopped pander to mainland bugmen.

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>>5044878
>Before the Taiwan happening, Coco requested how to stream in bilibili, and was ignored/denied, meaning there was already something wrong back then. Who was responsible?
She pushed the envelope even before that, she has never had a good relationship with management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5065805
>who the fuck would say taiwan #1 unironically except some island zhang incel
I am. If this makes bugmen mad, I'm in.
Besides island changs have electronics and decent tools which will go into shit if PRC subdues them, and I don't want worse quality for bigger price because bugs being bugs.

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>>5066533
>america #1? no. european country #1? no. japan #1? no. that little shitty zhang filled island? YEAH!!!!
you're probably some island zhang schizo just astroturfing or some brain dead reddit npc. either way you're not a real human so it doesn't matter.

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>>5066355
>Chinks defeated Mongols and their predecessors countless times.
Yet Yuan Empire made by them existed for 98 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>spamming Aqua
They unironically want to graduate Chinkqua while expecting that she would stream on bili like her friend, honorary Nurglite Kagura Mea.
Xinqua also completely ignored Coco since Cover's exodus and didn't said her name even after announced graduation. I wouldn't be surprised if she already gobbled tiny yellow cock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5065805
Do you know Chinese pro CCP love to play " Actor among us" ?

I know about Chink wolf warrior tactic and it no use here.

Go back to your NGA

[Anonymous No.]

>>5067008
spotted the island zhang.

chinese ccp like to play amogus? sus

[Anonymous No.]

>>5067102
I am Reddittor dump ass
Someone teach us about Wolf warrior pla n and their tactic in Reddit at it proof true.

Wolf warrior in NGA are disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

>>5066591
>>5067102
unenlightenedchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064641
>hololive es
You know...
The chinks AKA bilibili has invested in Wactor to pander ES. and they are doing very well i'm afraid...

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>>5066927
Leave the retarded onion alone.

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>>5067102
Yes, They love play among us but not a game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/j0x5bi/hololive_fans_please_be_wary_of_actors_in_the/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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>>5067160
Jesus christ they really are taiwanese schizophrenics holy fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>5067102
>unironic mainland zhang
https://streamable.com/r957nj

[Anonymous No.]

>>5067284
Whitell and Andy are Chinese Wolf warrior in NGA and not Taiwannese thou

[Anonymous No.]

>>5066927
Xinqua, please come to China!

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>>5067284
of course they are. there's schizo from everywhere else but island zhang are immune to it? they just get a free pass from all the reddit npc who eat every turd they get shit into their mouth.

island zhang spam their schizo rrat's everywhere on /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>everyone in this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L8UwrYxpYo

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>>5067476
>of course they are. there's schizo from everywhere else but island zhang are immune to it? they just get a free pass from all the reddit npc who eat every turd they get shit into their mouth. island zhang spam their schizo rrat's everywhere on /vt/.

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>>5066327
LMFAO
though i will say this much, the american state does soft power pushing constantly. it's just not as forceful or hands on as the chinese way. i doubt america is directly influencing v-tubing but i also doubt they aren't softly influencing it. soft influence is often indirect and passive. maybe as an entertainment wide audit they perform.

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>>5067476
And the taiwanese having schizos too somehow excuses your sorry insect ass?

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>>5066927
Aqua is a dumb menhera just like Tia. Both were at the center of the happening and could have done something to alleviate the situation but instead they'd rather sit as comfy as possible while having their fanbases walk on hot coals for them by trying to play both sides and end up ditching fans when the conflict got hairy. I don't care if you've got screws lose, doing something like that makes you objectively a shitty person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5067405
we already have Chinkqua at home

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>>5067678
Mainly this. Burgers have perfected the art of subtly pushing stuff. You don't even notice you're being indoctrinated. "Cultural alienation" is called.
But insects just want you to consciously submit.
As a spic, we just have to pick our poison while the world giants duke at each other.

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>>5067678
Key word: soft power. Many countries have them, except mainland zhangs. Anime is soft power, K-pop is soft power, Hollywood and comics are soft power.
Zhangs can't into soft power despite all that history and culture. Because the permanent state of butthurt and passive aggression is counterproductive to soft power.

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>>5067889
Oh yeah, isn't soft power just basically another word for propaganda? That shit's universal.
Yeah, the unenlightenedchamas can't into soft propaganda like any other nation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5067822
>But insects just want you to consciously submit.
Years of playing as commies completely wreck their creativity and devolved them into drones who can only make bad fakes or weaker versions of originals.

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>>5067678
They're every bit as forceful, you're just trained from infancy to see it as normal or as a group effort. If China carpet bombed El Salvador for switching to bitcoin like the US carpet bombed Syria for switching to the golden dinar we would be in a nuclear winter by now.
We just dont care if its NATO doing it, they're the good guys.
We also do massive power brokerage and backdoor deals but people never speak out against it like they do with China. Kushner? Never even met her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5067617
why are you posting some ugly island zhang incels? don't you redditors worship them and love when they shit schizo rrat into your mouth? those are your masters, reddit npc. kiss your island zhang masters feet, slave. taiwan 1# right?

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>>5067889
the US has hard power propaganda which is LGBT and trade wars. the US dollar and wokeness has more power politically than China's moral vacuuming and empty threats.

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>>5067938
>Oh yeah, isn't soft power just basically another word for propaganda?
No. It's a more elegant instrument of a more civilized age.
Soft power gives you profits when it slowly indoctrinates consumer. While you need to waste money for pure propaganda. No gain, only loss.

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>>5068090
>some ugly island zhang incels
Except those are mainland incels and one of them is your chink overlord.

[Anonymous No.]

A reminder that the insect in this thread is easily identifiable.

>>5068165
>empty threats
Actually not empty since they've made themselves the economic lynchpin for most of the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068278
Not him but those are clearly traditional chinese characters and thats an akb48 idol meeting so its most likely taiwan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068278
lmao imagine being such a butthurt schizo retard you try and pretend island zhang look different from mainland zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5049922
mossad agent sachiowo my ofice now

you are not supposed to drop thruth bombs this early

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068305
>Actually not empty
Empty. The world needs a cheap chink workforce and their mass production, but chink needs that money even more.
You can try to LARP as a superpower, but when choking the economy can unironically destroy you, things wont end well.

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>>5068472
>when choking the economy can unironically destroy you
You really think those insects care about that? They're petty enough to kill themselves as long as it cripples the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.]

2020s Vtubers as the frontrunner scout generation for the GPT4-powered Fully Virtual Youtubers as part of the Great Reset: Entertainment Branch.
Imagine custom made movies, podcasts and streamers made for you, streaming whatever you like and want, every single time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068413
>mainland bug tries feign retardation

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068536
>Imagine custom made movies, podcasts and streamers made for you, streaming whatever you like and want, every single time.
Ready Player One already touched a bit of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068432
>mossad agent sachiowo my ofice now
But she doesn't look like Jew?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068595
That's how you know they're successful agents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068472
>when choking the economy can unironically destroy you
If China timed a market choke well enough they could literally choke the whole west out of key components and we could do jack shit about it because our factories are there. There's a chip shortage going on and its rippling hard enough for car and phone manufacturers to change their designs.
If they actually *wanted* to hurt the economy they have the whole world by the balls. Your keyboard wasnt made where you live.
>itll hurt them more
Hurt them, yes. More, probably not. They have a domestic market and more consumers than the US and Europe combined.
If they wanted to actually do a trade war they'd win by default because China *is* the global trade market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068563
>reddit npc posts ugly zhang incels
>it's a akb48 event and traditional chinese so 99.99% taiwan
>NOOOOOOO MY ISLAND ZHANG MASTERS DON'T LOOK LIKE MAINLAND ZHANG THEY'RE WAY DIFFERENT
holy shit you guys are so pathetic. imagine groveling for island zhang this much hahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047544
>>5047310
true, one chinese guy came into these threads a week ago explaining that while there are "guidelines" they are more likely to be forced on smaller channels and give them 3-6 days ban.

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>>5068694
>They have a domestic market and more consumers than the US and Europe combined.
But could they feed them by themselves?
One country that tried into relying on the domestic market only already failed. And it was way bigger than China and had way more resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068711
Come on, post your favorite zhang panda meme, I know you want it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068711
sorry but the independent country of Taiwan is based, unlike mainland insect-ghoul hybrids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068830
China produces the food for 25% of the human population, China being around 20% of the world pop themselves. I dont know if they could just switch all their logistical chains on a dime if there was a magic barrier right now, probably not, but yes they could feed themselves in a mid term timeframe. I also dont know if they produce enough of every part of the pyramid or what the population density is like or if it would matter, but going by hard numbers yes China could feed themselves and also provide most basic amenities to their citizens, they produce most of the shit the rest of the world uses. If they actually get serious about this they could probably blockade the country and starve the world, most countries are functional client states of the chinese market, only rural communities would survive, and barely.
America could also feed itself only with its domestic production, but they depend on chinese products for most things because they offshored everything except the third sector (currently being offloaded to india and china too).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5069067
not based enough to win a civil war or keep coco in cover though. you island zhang and reddit npc are made for each other. both losers who can only impotently seethe online.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5069181
>who can only impotently seethe online
>mainland zhang, master of constant online seething
Pot calling the kettle black.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5069567
>projecting your limp dick rage onto me
what seething? all the vtubers i watch have been doing great. there's the yearly bml next month which is bigger than ever. the vtuber show they're going to do cost more than cover's entire yearly operation.

i didn't even realize coco was gone until i came here to read you guys seething and crying. next month i'll be enjoying the biggest vtuber event in the world while you're crying about china.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5069162
You do know that China is in the middle of a minor (i.e. food shortage, but nowhere near Mao levels) famine right now? That's why they're so dead-set on building all those dams for farmland despite the consequences to the countries downriver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068830
their food security is projected to continue declining for the foreseeable future as they become more reliant on american imports

[Anonymous No.]

>>5058972
>>5059116
Sorry, I mean fall guys. Which ten cent does have ownership in. And really anything done by Epic games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5067938
No, soft power is basically the political term for "friends", ie the ability to make an actor do something you want without putting a gun to their head or bribing them. It can be achieved through propaganda but it's only one of the tools that can be used to achieve soft power, not the definition of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
Funny or not, it's my believed since the first day that Bilbili has hands on this from the start.

The NGA spammer are nothing just a nationalist troll that goes out of the plan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5072009
See >>5063893 too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068631
No. The most successful Katsa look like Arabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068369
Wolf warrior Pro CCP like and can use Tradition . Simp and Trad can not tell anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>5072230
Mainlanders can read TC. These are news and tv is usually in SC. Those pictures are from an idol meeting in taiwan, they've been making the rounds for a minute.
>wolf warrior pro ccp hypernationalists like TC
red scarf types? like fuck they do, what are you even talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5049637
>In half a year max they will be back on Bili and playing chink games.
yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>5057603
>But Artia liked Coco before being told she hated her
you fucked the rrat here

[Anonymous No.]

>>5075898
probably. but codm and immortal are still published by activision blizzard. and if the cyberpunk situation taught us anything, it's that publishers have more power than devs.
if they get chinese-published games, then that's big news

[Anonymous No.]

>>5076479
You're thinking of the musedash situation, Cd project publishes their own games and as far as I know they've still got cd project permissions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5076521
Musedash publ and dev live in mainland and NGA will burn them alive if they still permit Hololive stream Musedash.

See NGA at the time as evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5064758
>using GOOGLE analytics on china
jesuschrist, don't reproduce, let your retard genes die with you

[Anonymous No.]

>>5065805
>incel
where are you coming from tourist faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5065805
ESL pretty sus

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045011
oy vey

[Anonymous No.]

we must have hit a nerve seeing all these zhang posts seething about taiwanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
>Who lied to them? Was HoloCN management a chinese partner? bilibili? or normal Cover employees?
Last I heard, it was HoloCN's management trying to force Cover to accept their terms by announcing something undecided.
>Coco's graduation message in simplified and traditional chinese, unlike other announcements
July of 1921. Consider it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5077351
>genshin is a hundred times more popular than hololive in the west
>surely this is the opposite in china where genshin is from and hololive just closed its branch
there's no way you thought this was an intelligent post to make. classic haatardchama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5079481
Not that guy, but you're just dumb.
The fucking Google is blocked in China. Then why did you even bring up GOOGLE analytics on China?
Seriously. Go to weibo if you really cares about that.
Nobody saying Hololive is more popular than Genshin, dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>5050467
One of the holo mamas has better 3D home tech than Cover's garbage ass at home 3D.
Those models are SHIT, its fucking embarrassing to have their girls using that fucking trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5068413
The person that drew this looks exactly like the one on the right is the funny thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047731
Niji CN is bigger than hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5079900
Lol no. There's still no vtuber as popular as Aqua (before the accident happened).
The already popular streamer which using vtuber avatar didn't count though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045011
The patriots

[Anonymous No.]

>>5081112
The La-li-lu-le-lo? What are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047771
If you talk to people that went for china to work for some years and then came back to the west, you'll find out that chinese culture is kind of fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5080147
you wish you dumb faggot. aqua couldn't even get 1000 boat memberships while there's 5 cn vtubers after her. even english speaking american cat is more popular than aqua.

your hololive isn't shit you little bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5082737
Sorry I don't speak bugman, try again in a civilized language

[Anonymous No.]

>>5083670
>aqua is the most popular vtuber ever
>get btfo
>uhhh i don't speak english!
lol seething little bitch. this girl ava made 463k on her birthday stream 2 days, faggot. aqua and hololive can't even compete :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5044878
Haachama is fine she is just finishing her studies at uni

[Anonymous No.]

>>5047731
because they actually have chinese investors

[Anonymous No.]

>>5083746
i love taiwan, the nation independent of china.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5083832
who is a popular taiwanese vtuber, subhuman?

you guys like to eat the shit out of island zhang's asshole but you don't even got a single taiwanese vtuber that's popular. sad pathetic fuck. your "country" can't even produce a vtuber while indogs and brownoids from south america dab all over island zhang incels with their own vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

SHUT IT DOWN THE GOYIM KNOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>5083746
Sorry you seem to still be speaking bug, try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084086
you will never be funny or witty. you will always be a dumb esl reddit subhuman though. you will always lose too.

cn vtuber popularity is rising while coco is graduating. seethe limp dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045011
Redditors

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084157
Aww a zhang calling others esl, how cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084278
remember how angry you got when john cena told you taiwan isn't a country? it's like that. i'm a sinophile esl retard fuck.

tell me who's a popular vtuber from province taipei? you don't know? yeah it's cause that province is shit. can't even get a popular vtuber while there's random pajeet vtubers who get more threads lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084372
Stay mad, chimk
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084372
Flithy batsoup covered fingers wrote this post

[Anonymous No.]

All I know is this - artia was pushing hard for supporting aqua on her discord. Even saying that other than her and civia, aqua was the only vtuber of whom talk was allowed on the general channel.
After this I checked the chinese channel and absolutely found discussion regarding usage of "tools to harass" and about "needing more accounts" and stuff. Artia herself chimed in during these discussions (short phrases that google translate didn't really help with)
And finally, there is this confirmed screenshot of the mods from civia's chat.
The "lore video" for the birth of hecatia literally shows artia sacrificing herself while fighting a dragon https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1PK411g7jM

You chinks can beg for sympathy all you want, but you will find none her you cheating backstabbing pigs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084441
>>5084530
>still no mention of a taiwanese province vtuber
uhhh, island zhang incelbros and redditors? you got some explaining to do.

>>5084564
>more schizo rrat from some island zhang schizo
you guys must really hate artia cause she's popular while your favorite province taipei has zero vtubers anybody knows. jealousy is so ugly.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder why insectchama doesn't even try to fit in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5045011
Stop being anti-Semitic goy

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084658
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jealousy
Of your hivemind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084820
>>5084852
>why isn't he part of my reddit insect hivemind?!?! only a zhang wouldn't be part of my insect hivemind. he doesn't even fit in with us redditors!!!
how do you do it? you're so unfunny and stupid in terms of humor and wit, but you're like a living and breathing joke that's great to laugh at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084658
>you guys must really hate artia cause she's popular
Is that why she announced that she'll stay in bili and not do twitch streams? Because >we hate her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5050342
I just assumed these were Americans sucking corporation dick, both are pretty much the same in the end

[Anonymous No.]

>>5085241
she's more popular than any taipei province vtuber. you retards can't even name one of them even though you spam about taiwan daily.

how fucking retarded is it you losers spam about taiwan daily, but don't even know any taipei province vtubers? biggest cuck retards in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, the "soft power" anons were right. The chinese are so eternally butthurt, self-hating and incapable of seeing a human bean as anything other than an asset no matter what that they don't know any other tactics than the wolf-warrior bullshit their supreme leader Xinnie Jhin Poohng teaches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084372
>angry
Disappointed. Though it was expected, China is nothing without their economic pressure. And burgers only cave in to economic pressure.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly guys, everyone talking about profit is obviously missing the real point
VTubers are modern version of idolatry, it's an amazing propaganda piece that can easily extend beyond their country with minimum of work, I doubt profit was anywhere near the mind of people on top of this shit beyond a way of ensuring loyalty of bunch of peons

[Anonymous No.]

>>5084564
>Google translate
Just stop, if you can't read Chinese then you clearly can't keep up with the memes, many of which can be specific to bilibili and even certain vup (卧槽), not to mention the puns and homynyms using different characters. Stick to your failed Reddit narratives, EOP.

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>>5086607
unenlightenedchama...

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>>5086812
Not MMR, EOP. Also not going to change the fact that the talents are doing better since leaving Cover, good riddance. Oh, guess who has a booth at COMICUP 28? Certainly not hololive lol

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>>5087308
>COMICUP 28
The heck is that, some insect-only event?

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>>5084564
Regarding hololive discussion, there was a channel called OVT that was filled with hololive discussion, I don't know what the fuck are you talking about. Artia deleted it waaay later because people kept posting while she was streaming and she felt NTR'd. But that channel was there for months and months.

And as you can see here >>5063884 she had normal hololive translators as even mods, which by the way, they have even coco clips

Regarding Civia, yeah I think she did participate in the bullshit but I don't have much info on that.

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>>5087380
Look at the name m8
Do you even need to ask?

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>>5087308
Artia now Hecatia, always was a mediocre entertainer, her streams were boring, here personality was bland, same as Civia, imagine comparing her to real professionals like Korone, Fubuki or Okayu, that's all the chinese have left, mediocre vtubers just like everything they produce