/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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What are the biggest instances of vtubers actually tricking and manipulating their fans?

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>>50240839
I forgot about this. Kek

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I'm not sure it counts as outright tricking but Gura's way of handling her fanbase just seems incredibly underhanded and snakey to me, like she knows exactly how hard her fans are seething and then just posts some cringy uguu LARP where she fakes 50 spelling mistakes before rolling her head on the keyboard to seem cute. Hypes her "grand return" just to milk Valentine's Day and then immediately disappears again after. Stuff like that. It's so cynical.

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>don't even watch clips
>get mad at the titles of clips instead
now that's a reddit moment

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>>50241073
Can you blame her? I'd milk the fuck out of dumbuds too

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>>50241073
Wrong thread bot.

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>>50241073
So your shitty 3view isn't satisfying you, huh? Can't move on?

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>>50240839
>Tranny think they win
KEK

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>>50241151
Cute projection.

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>>50241181
they kinda did because pikamee's betrayal proved she didn't quit because of harassment indeed, imploding the entire anti-tranny "cause"
rather she simply wanted some of that vwhore goy money and had kikeson whisper in her ear

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>>50241181
They did. They were 100% right about Pikamee. Literally everything they said, they were right.

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>>50241217
the only projection I have is of your oshi's views
1 year from now, 0 views

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>>50240839
Kiki Lockheart gamer chair.

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>>50241181
In a way they did since her return meant that they they could argue that they did nothing and sweep everything else under the rug

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>>50241073
Gotta agree with this. It comes across as extremely cynical, especially when she had that week of constant "uwu i will do maid cafe asmr now the guys are here (><) chu" only to never do anything like that again

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>>50241073
SHARK
GIRL
IDOL

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>>50240839
Yuri's donations for a new pc just before she ditched Phase

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>>50241073
For someone to be her fan they need to accept that she’s a free spirit that consistently preaches the idea of “If it doesn’t make me happy, I won’t do it.” You either love her for what she is or hate it.

I don’t support that mentality, but I’m her simp, what can I say.

Captcha: I’ll never forgive the Japanese

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>>50241073
It's clear by now that they deserve it. The only thing you could say she's doing wrong is endangering real children by mentally destabilizing thousands of chumbuds.

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>>50246189
That's not a free-spirit, that's just called being a sociopath

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>>50240839
>Freedom?

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>>50244176
Lmao, that was probably in the same level, if not worse, of a scummy move than Hitomi Chris's. Surprised not many people remember it.

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>>50241120
>Truth hurts?

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>>50240839
ogey

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>>50241241
>>50241416
You’re not fooling anyone.

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>>50241241
You'd know that the tranny harassment really did cause a scar on her if you'd watch her.

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>>50241073
so much of how gura conducts herself is being terrified of her fans. if chumbuds were less psychotic she'd probably be a lot more open

its the nature of being that big though. shame

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>>50240839
>graduate
>join the very people that forced you to graduate
>but its ok because you get a shiny new model

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>>50241241
>>50241416
>>50243790
samefag?

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>>50240839
Or you can take it at face value.
>Pikamee bullied into graduation
>Kson tried to give her advice
>harassment too much for her to tolerate, goes through with it
>she's a menhera though, & streaming is too important to her identity
>runs straight into the arms of her friend
>takes Vshojo offer without considering competing opportunities because she's a liver not a businessman
>somehow works out because the preceding series of events generated a lot of hype

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>>50240839
Gura. She tries so hard to hide everything from her fans. It's obvious what she's doing off-stream.

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Holoseethe
Maybe don't wait over a year to open EN auditions in favor of males your fanbase hates, you fucking moron
Gunrun saw the (better) opportunity and took it because he isn't a lazy hack

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>>50246189
>If it doesn’t make me happy, I won’t do it
That's also Kson's philosophy and she still streams every day

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>>50257069
Henya's Youtube, Twitch, and Twitter accounts were created just 2 days after Pikamee's graduation. A contract had been in the works weeks prior, during the same time Kson told Pikamee to cancel her graduation. Kson is literally Two-Face here, "noooo don't graduate", "but HEHE sign my contract!"

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>>50241241
she has said on stream she doesn't look at twitter, she has a "manager" who filters everything and sends her stuff like art people made
It's still dumb she joined the same company as fucking Froot though. But what do you expect from someone stupid enough to fall for kson's lies.

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>>50257610
He struck gold with her, I have nothing but respect for that backpack peddler

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>>50257069
>liver
kys nijizhang
>>50258022
watch the clip mongoloid, it's a joke about them taking a long time to beat the game

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I like all this henya dickriding, her inevitable recline will make delicious grudgeposts.

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>>50256196
>shiny new model
That is pretty garbo. Is this her thing, having a shitty model?

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>>50258022
Timing works out to Pikamee doing exactly what kson asked her to do: cancel her graduation.
(graduation was already confirmed with VOMS management and announced, so she functionally-cancelled it instead by reincarnating as fast as possible into a model VSJ had ready for a new employee).

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Kiki Lockheart, the pink one from EIEN. It’s still a who corpo, but the yabs that came out during her donothon exposed her absolute wild manipulation.

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>>50260668
nice fanfic, here's what happened
>Voms is a shit company
>No 3D or concerts for them fucking ever
>The faggot running it gets a huge cut on merch
>Kettle is friends with Kekson
>Kekson convinces kettle to join and she'll have more money, 3D and a concert
>She accepts
>gets harrassed WANTING to play HL
>leaves for a month
>comes back saying she'll graduate, thing that already has been planned since voms sucks ass
>Won't say that is because she already wanted to join Vshojo cause of contract
>People see her as a martyr
>said ''martyr'' debuts
>People are retarded enough to think Pikamee was going to leave Vtubing forever for some fucking reason
>buff numbers becasue ''THIS IS A MIRACLE KSON DID IT AGAIN!!!''
Nigga Kson just got lucky twitter and Vtuber fans are retarded enough to make pika a martyr, just like she got lucky when rushia went full menhera

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>>50257069
Except this was in the works months before she graduated. They already have merchandise for her prepped and ready to go. You don't just get that randomly or on the spur.

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Anyone who thinks Pikamee was forced to graduate is a fucking dumbass, there's no way Vshojo had the capability to make her a new model in the time from when she graduated and her debut. She graduated because she wanted to join Vshojo and it was planned for a long time.

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>>50241241
>I bullied a girl into suicide but she didn't so that means I'm the coolest person alive

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>>50261293
That and she already has merch. Merch isn't just made in the span of a month.

Plus, Pikamee has dropped hints in the past she is seriously not happy at Voms. She has not been happy since Monoe got graduated.

She was probably realizing if Voms goes under so does her career. Voms is a dead end and Vtubing is the only thing Pikamee has. She's a NEET Gaijin living in Japan. Early 20s-mid 20s.

Vtubing is the one thing she likes. And she's damn good at it. With Vshojo the most important thing: Henya is her's. Forever. it's her character not Vshojo's. No matter what happens: she will always be Henya; unless he joins Hololive but, I doubt she would ever want that.

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But she did. Henya isn't Pikamee. Our Kettle liked being Pikamee. But, she's not getting any younger and VOMs isn't getting any bigger.

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>>50260951
I'm getting real tired of Kson using her savior complex to compensate for her lack of entertainment or personality

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>>50253873
>>50256722
Nta but he's right. Pikamee reincarnating after less than half a year of "death caused by trannies" basically proved to the harassers that their harassment was
>justified and not really that bad!
Even vocal pikamee defenders had a hard time arguing that it was their actions that led to her graduation. You can honestly just look at twitter and see for yourself.
Doesn't really help that silver also became a raging cunt so I mean, ultimately I think trannies did win.

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>>50262678
>t. twitter freak

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>>50262753
You can say whatever you want. But it doesn't change how the outlook ended up.
The narrative of pikamee being completely done with streaming and graduating because she was bullied into it, completely fell apart. Even though it was a dumb rrat to begin with(partially fueled by kson) since the CEO literally went on record saying that it had been planned for a while along with her other friends

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>>50260951
There's a point were "luck" is a button on the girl's gamepad anon. Skill issue on your whore's oshi side.

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Zylphe was right. Pikame graduating was a good thing for the entire Vtuber scene.
It made it apparent that the rest of the EN Vtuber scene cannot do anything right in terms on just putting a avatar on screen, playing vidya games, and taking money from their fans.

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>>50265522
How is it good if she sold out to vshojo?

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>>50240839
I forgot kson said that. Good stuff.

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>>50240839
>insider joke bad

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>>50267148
I'm still bothered about that boob window, absolutely unnecessary but had to be done so it looked like a vshojo whore.

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>>50269311
I made sure to report to Twitch because it still violates the sexual visual ToS agreement.

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>>50269923
why would that matter when they have titty streamers and swimsuit hot tub shit on twitch

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>>50270105
Because the banning system still works even if they are slow to ban the streamer/streamers in question.

They ban on intent and purposes.

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>>50270232
I seek to make every member in the corporate Vtuber scene poor once again and never be able to set foot on Twitch/Youtube/Rumble/Kick/Trovo ever again. That is my mission. To clean up the place so Indies would rule.

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>>50262678
>mentions several times on her streams about being canceled
>”no more canceling please”
>friends mention her being canceled on their own streams
Again… you’re not fooling anyone. You pieces of shit are evil.

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>>50260951
>>50262122
>apparently being a good person is a bad thing
Hate boner really makes them stupid

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>>50240839
kek

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>>50271055
M8 I couldn't care less about your culture wars, I'm not a troon but objectively speaking they won. Trannies said it wouldn't be the end of her and it wasn't.
Granted as I said earlier, if you truly just took ksons word for it, that she totally just graduated because of harassment, then I could see how you might believe this rrat but the rrat was pretty much debunked early on.
>friends say she was planning on graduating earlier
>"NOOO KSON IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND SHE WAS HARASSED INTO IT!!!"
>CEO says she was planning on graduating
>"NOOOOOO KSON SAID SHE WAS HARASSED INTO IT AND THIS IS JUST A MISTRANSLATION!!"
>ironmouse hints that she's joining vshojo
>"NOOOOOO KSON SAID SHE WAS FORCED INTO GRADUATION AND NOW SHES DEAD BCUZ TRANNIES!!!"
And then she redebuted into vshojo, just like everyone said she would. If there was ever a rrat that fell apart quicker, I'd be hard pressed to find it.

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>>50272090
Uh huh. So when specifically did she plan on graduating?

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>>50272090
>Trannies said it wouldn't be the end of her and it wasn't.
Trannies were celebrating as if she were gone and Henya mentioned it multiple times that she got emotionally hurt by their actions vindicating the reaction of people who condemned twitter freaks.

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>>50272330
before the tranny harassment you’re so obsessed about

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>>50272415
Point out where this was stated.

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>>50272386
Man I saw a hell of a lot more people posting shit like
>never forget what they took from you
while posting images of pikamee on a burning "trans flag" than I did troons celebrating her death. Shit. Half the accounts I saw celebrating it were created the same month and were people from /here/ and /pol/ who'd make accounts saying shit like
>I'm a trans Ukrainian female and Im glad pikamee is dead
While also simultaneously liking shit that said
>death to all trannies

What probably hurt more was the culture war she became a part of because people wanted a martyr.

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>>50272848
She didn't say that she was graduating to join another company while she was still in VOMs because she's not fucking retarded. Everyone around her aside from Kson said that she had planned on graduating long before she actually did. Ironmouse even basically said that we'd be seeing her again in vshojo soon.
People accused everyone else of lying and believed what they wanted to up until the very end where it was proven that kson was guilty of stirring shit

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>>50240839
>tricking and manipulating
you got worked you mark KWAB

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>>50240839
SHE KNEW

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>>50273244
>I saw more blah blah blah
Take your fucking meds. And newsflash, most of us don’t care about the “culture war”, we’re just stuck with dipshits and faggots ruining everything dragging us into bullshit like this.

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>>50240839
Eveyone that isn't tourist or dramanigger know that she gonna reincarnated. But of course, /vt/ never actually cares about her and only using her as ammunition to own the troons.

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>>50240839

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>>50274023
That's not true.
We're also using her to wank our jank.

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>>50273735
>says trannies were celebrating her "death"
>gets mad when someone points out that just as many people were using her "death" for culture war bullshit
>Most of us don't care "
Okay

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>>50273735

sounds like you're pretty mad about the culture war

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>>50274635
>annoying people that ruin things for their retarded beliefs are annoying
Imagine my shock.

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>>50273518
>kson was guilty of stirring shit
kson did not say anything about why pikamee was graduating you filthy catalognigger

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>we're NOT friends and we shouldn't be! go away you gross parasocial creep!

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>>50276634
pregnancy correction is required

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>>50241073
In my opinion, a fanbase deserves all the abuse it is willing to take. Good on Gura for making big bucks for little effort.

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>>50263155
>since the CEO literally went on record saying that it had been planned for a while along with her other friends
That fucking pigeon only wanted to save his own ass from further harrassment to his little project and resorted to the generic "PR apologies 101" rule book to bend the knee.

Believing otherwise would be extremely naive in this scenario.

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>>50272090
desu I figured she'd join vshojo the moment kikeson waddled out to loudly announce that she "talked" with her. The MO is always the same with her.

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>>50260951
VOMS is not a company, retard. It's not an agency either.

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>>50278188
Why would some Japanese illustrator of JP vtubers care at all about western twitter? "harassment to his little project"? Western twitter doesn't even know what VOMS is.

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>>50278204
>Someone asks Kson on stream if she's talked to Pikamee
>Kson says yes, also says that internet bullies suck
>anon shits his pants a thousand times over this for some reason

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>>50279202
>Why would some Japanese illustrator of JP vtubers care at all about western twitter?
Because Pika was his biggest influence in the western scene, essentially his magnum opus.
>"harassment to his little project"?
VOMS is a project, labeled like that by himself in several occasions during the first years, and the risk of these trannies going after the other talents was persistent around this time
>Western twitter doesn't even know what VOMS is
highly debatable when there were several instances of Pika collabing with EN Holos (Ina), EN Nijis (Pomu, Elira) and of course, Vshojo. And to add on to that, the "Let's kill da ho" meme was notoriously spread around twitter when it happened, meaning Voms was known to a certain degree in the west.

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>>50240839
me

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>>50258022
>>50261246
Good point, you're probably right. To play devil's advocate though, there's still room for the contract to have taken place after the controversy but before graduation. Having the job lined up and all, y'know.

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>>50246189
If she's a streamer and streaming doesn't make her happy then she should be graduating and moving to things that actually make her happy, not just milk her fans for as long as she can and that's a pill you cuckbuds should swallow

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>>50295941
That is still only one or two month which is very short time for preparing design, rigging, merch, and many other processes

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>>50278476
I would be shocked if GYARI doesn't run his merch through a corporation that he controls, and which also holds the rights to the characters.

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>>50298181
>If she's a [professional] and [doing her job] doesn't make her happy then she should [leave her job] and moving to things that actually make her happy
pretty sure at least 95% of people in workforce contemplates this at least once in their life
won't it be great if we can all just do whatever that makes us happy

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>>50300933
>one man
>a corporation
LOL
LMAO
He's just a small vocaloid producer and artist, he doesn't have a company with their own merch production lines that can spit out merch at the snap of a finger. He has to go through outside companies and wait in lines just like small indies.