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What is our verdict on production kawaii and its talents?

A true black company like Niji or actually okay? Also how do you even manage to make an entire gen graduate at the same time?

>> No.50190492

>>50190461
>our verdict
Can't figure that one out for yourself?

>> No.50190553

>>50190492
No. This is a deflection thread and I need you to sperg out on my behalf.

>> No.50190580

>>50190461
>I'm scared of having the wrong opinion
Come up with one yourself pussy. Fight against the entire world in defense of it if you have to.

>> No.50190628

black company, talents are the managers, they will go down in couple of months

>> No.50191395

>>50190461
an obvious bias shown to nene with her competition all strangely hamstrung

>> No.50191426

>>50190461
boring

>> No.50191508
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the first vtuber company to host a concert on US soil, so they're not that bad.

>> No.50191679
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>>50190461
LARGE fan of Nami myself

>> No.50192845

>>50191679
>LARGE fan of Nami myself
Tell me what you like about her

>> No.50193048

Reminder that they will be debuting their regular outfit 3D models over the next few days. Reina's starts in about 2.5 hours. Here's a playlist with all the scheduled streams.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIRvAu2pYvnRDE26n0qmdaIr4tLvfIlqf

>> No.50193929

>>50192845
she hates discordtroons

>> No.50194358

>>50190461
>7 Active
>8 Retired
Sounds like a firm who'll cut their losses and takes the "fail fast" mentality to things rather aren't working.

I know gen 3 left of their own accord, were the others the same?

>> No.50194771

>>50194358
Hana's leaving was pretty much mutually agreed by both sides.
Neena left because she wanted all her gachi's money and wanted to exploit them in private discord which is against Kawaii rules.
Aruru left because... uh, she left. She just ghosted everybody. Even her "graduation" video was put together by staff and she couldn't bother to say even a simple goodbye message.
Oceane was fired due to doxing and violation of several Kawaii rules.
Letti, Airi, Sava, and Miryu left due to disagreements with management and they likely thought they could make more money without Kawaii.

>> No.50195118

>>50194771
Wow, sounds like a lack of trust and communication between corporate and the talent, in some cases atleast.
Is there a blatant case of favouritism going on at this place?

>> No.50195163

>>50193929
Based

>> No.50195347

>>50194771
>Oceane was fired due to doxing and violation of several Kawaii rules.
This was never proven. Of all the people that left the company, Oceane was the biggest lost because she got terminated because of the Gen that dropped, just when she was inclining very hard.

>> No.50195855

>>50195118
>Is there a blatant case of favouritism going on at this place?
Not that I can see. For instance, the Kickstarter money went to fund each of the 7 talents' idol outfit and regular outfit 3D models equally. They actually reversed a decision previously made that would have definitely involved favoritism (if Nene had been the only one to get her regular outfit 3D since she was the only one above the 100k subscriber count which, prior-to, was a requirement to get a 3D model)

>> No.50195876

>>50190461
I know none of these people

>> No.50195965

>>50190461
>more graduated than active
Grim.

>> No.50196149

>>50191508
> you could realistically attend the 3 events
Any anon badass enough?

>> No.50196229

>>50194771
>Oceane was fired due to doxing and violation of several Kawaii rules.
wasn't she set up by the rest of her gen that ended up quitting anyway?

>> No.50196462

>>50190461
"Black company" is being thrown around this retarded board just like the word "yab" and "menhera" are thrown around for every other stupid thing and every other girl that doesnt act completely vanilla. Basically people are fucking braindead.
It's cool to hate on vtuber companies now when a bunch of them went indie, but all these faggots and roasties sucked hololives and niji's dick in the past , probably applied and got rejected and then started throwing out terms like "black company" around.
Also even if ONE talent graduates from any company ever, that somehow makes them a "black company". This is the mind of your typical 14 year old twitter shitter /vt/ user.

>> No.50196512

>>50195965
You post in /pkg/ every day and talk shit about the company. Get a life you miserable faggot. Sorry that your marriage with an anime girl didn't turn out the way you wanted.

>> No.50196570

huh, had no idea sava graduated
hope she does well. her halo streams were fun and the asmr was nice.

>> No.50196575

>>50190461
Remember when everyone was convinced Hana was going to be in Nijisanji?

>> No.50196592

>>50196229
That is a rrat that /vt/ sisters came up because they are so bored they have to make shit up all the time. The reality is that Oceane's own discord was full of people sharing doxx info and she possibly also commented on it without warning people not to do it or take it down.
I think the so called "bot attack" in the past where girls had to keep their chats on members only mode for a while was initiated by Oceanes little personal army, because they would go into chats and openly talk about some girls past lives.

>> No.50196736

>>50196592
>The reality is that Oceane's own discord was full of people sharing doxx info and she possibly also commented on it without warning people not to do it or take it down.
No proof of this.
>I think the so called "bot attack"
And making shit up.

You must be from /same/.

>> No.50196867

>>50190461
Nene for EN3

>> No.50197004

Charzu sex.

>> No.50197023

>>50196512
What are you even talking about? Are you schizophrenic?

>> No.50197149

>>50190461
they are good
>black company
only holocultists say this shit

>> No.50197306

>>50196736
>And making shit up.
You are obviously a tourist because you missed girls chats being on members only mode for quite a while and you missed screenshots of people coming into girls chats and posting doxx-worthy shit. They were all painfully ESL btw.
Btw I can't even begin to describe how stupid you are. You are actually borderline retarded for calling me a /same/ guy when I just described what happened. Please remove yourself from the gene pool you imbecile.

>> No.50197445

>>50190461
>Enchantasia
kek, more like Euthanasia.

>> No.50197588

>>50190461
>production kawaii
really dislike them
>talents
extremely high quality. easily the most likeable small corpo talent line-up. They have a gigantic marketing problem though.
>a true black company
nope they just suck

>> No.50198060

>>50190461
the ceo is yagoos brother i trust them

>> No.50198280

Closest thing you can get to holo jp but that factor filter a lot of western audience as well as some western vtuber who bail out from the company.

>> No.50198328

>>50198060
The CEO is actually the grandson of Kyosuke Kinoshita who is the CEO of ACOM. This puts his personal wealth at above 4.5 billion.

>> No.50198413

>>50190461
>Coleman
lmao

>> No.50198452
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>>50196736
>>50197306
I like the rrat that Oceane was set up with her genmates.
It has the "framed villainess" vibes I like so much. She is a very good vsinger too, sadly she is white. My dream menhera SEAwoman should be tan.

>> No.50198458

>>50198328
Why the fuck is he so down bad for Noel and her massive tits?

>> No.50198534

>>50198458
why are you not so down bad for Noel massive tits and zero sex appeal?
She handles dildos like a handle powertools.

>> No.50198745

>>50196149
Are there sensible people here that just enjoy the medium and don't care about the brands at all?

>> No.50198788

>>50198452
>sadly she is white
She is a Chindo, not your usual brown SEAwoman.

>> No.50198819

>>50198452
Can't get tanned if you never go outside.

>> No.50198865

my verdict is that nene is my wife and charzu rape is good

>> No.50199158

>>50190461
all companies are black as long as they're vtuber focused.
>Production Kawaii?
Black. Has management issues and endless juicy drama behind the scenes.
>Prism Project?
Also managment issues, extreme restrictions, talents are hardly making any money, sony buyout was a mistake.
>Phase Connect
owned by a money hungry chink who can take the IPs of their talents, even after their contract expires.
>Idol
Seems promising, but weary that they're just putting on a show.
>Niji
literal definition of everything black.
>Hololive
threw talents under the bus for the CCP, but unironically probably the most trustworthy corp

Am I missing anyone? You can't convince me VTuber companies aren't all run by fags hopping on the opportunity to just make some money. At the end of the day they'll always throw a talent under the bus in order to protect their earnings. All these agencies have at least one shady graduation.

>> No.50202014

>>50198452
Oceane's design is the best among Kawaii girls.

>> No.50202202

>>50194771
>Letti, Airi, Sava, and Miryu left due to disagreements with management and they likely thought they could make more money without Kawaii.
how are they doing by the way? i enjoyed them well enough, but didn't care enough to follow them wherever they went.

>> No.50202347

>>50202202
I think only Leti and Sava are hovering around their usual numbers. Leti seems like she fell off a bit. Miryu is around 60-80 ccv as she always was and Peony is a negative entertainment value boring bitch and no one watches her.

>> No.50202427

>>50190461
My sultry hagwife, Lua Asuka.

>> No.50202538

>>50198413
She's literally a camping stove.

>> No.50202888

>>50190461
Not sure about the company, but the girls are good.

>> No.50204159
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>sadly she is white. My dream menhera SEAwoman should be tan.

>> No.50204648

>>50190461
All the girls still in the company are very happy they're there
Hana I don't know why she left
Aruru was a lazy fuck who never streamed and even to this day barely streams after being reincarnated
Neena was a greedy lying whore who realized she could make bank without having to give Kawaii a cut so she got herself fired
Oceane didn't want to leave Kawaii but got terminated (my eternal rrat will be that she was set up by the other 4 girls in her gen for not being part of their clique)
The other 4 are still a mystery but according to Nami, Miryu hated the corpo life and was the most eager to quit, I still think Peony only left because she didn't want to be alone or for the sake of "unity", she was so meek and harmless

>> No.50204921

>>50190461
is not a black company, its pretty much a mafia leaded by nene.

>> No.50205042

>>50204648
The idea the Oceane was framed by gen 3 is really dumb.

>> No.50205091

>>50195347
She's Filipino so it's proven by default.

>> No.50205176

>>50205042
I know but it's really funny at the same time, it's also weird to think she did all that stuff that could get her fired when she was doing so well and was very comfortable being a corpo vtuber

>> No.50205355

>>50205091
>Filipino
wrong

>> No.50205639

Nene seems to know what the target demographic wants and is more than willing to provide. Feels like it's an oldfags only club though, so I don't stick around. I like Shee though and it's comfy to sit in there and heat her talk while I relax. Don't know enough about the others.
Company overall seems to have a terrible time vetting.

>> No.50205873

Oceane was set up to fall by the Horse bitch to buy her treachery time.

>> No.50205966

Lua is pure sex. That's all I care about. I like a husky voiced Hag who knows she's pure fucking sex.

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>> No.50208863

It always makes me laugh when Oceane's doxxcord paypigs jump into threads like this to try and defend her and always just end up leading the conversation towards reminding everyone of what a cunt she was.

>> No.50209006

>>50208863
Oceane dindu nuffin

>> No.50209965

>>50205966
I came to Lua's voice more than I would like to admit.

>> No.50211057

>>50208863
>>50209006
You sound just like how nijisisters disparage Zaion, right down to the "zaion dindu nuffin".
Corpo bootlickers are the bottom of the barrel of all vtuber fans.

>> No.50212460

>oceane doxxed people
>oceane ran a discord to doxx people
>proof? just believe me bro
Kawaii's reputation is fucked and the rest of gen 3 is confirmed to be snakes. Nobody is buying your baseless accusations anymore. Either bring receipts or fuck off. "Dude trust me" doesn't work when you have given people countless reasons not to trust you.

>> No.50212522

Purge the weak, only the strong survive.

>> No.50213778

>>50212522
Nene will be the last woman standing in Kawaii after she purges the rest of the other girls.

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>>50208863
it's bizzare how they crawl out of their discord at once. as if gen1&2 girls didn't confirm the doxxing since they were the first targets. really shows who made /pkg/ miserable to read back then

>> No.50215064

>>50214584
Wasn't Isla's invasion of privacy a result of Oceane's doxxing?

>> No.50215231

>>50212460
>Hey dudes...you should like *takes a puff of weed*...totally doxx your own talents to prove that someone doxxed them
Fucking imbecile

>> No.50215762

>>50215231
>tons of people were working with her on discord to doxx people bro believe me
>can't name a single one
>no proof this discord even exists

>> No.50216014

>>50208863
>Claims Oceane doxxed literally everyone
>Gets asked for proofs
>Immediately resorts to call everyone a discord paypig

That's just sad, /same/fag.

>> No.50216301

>>50190461
Underrated, they cater to a niche and despite not watching, i would be sad if they went under.

>> No.50217235

>>50190461
>Collectively graduated on 7 April 2023
What the fuck happened?

>> No.50217621

>>50217235
A couple weeks before Aletta had a donothon and raised like 60-70k USD. As part of the contract, Kawaii takes 50% of such donations. Pretty sure horsegirl realizing that 30-35k USD going to the company wasn't something that she liked and getting her genmates they staged a protest (all 4 went on some form of break for 7-10 days) and then, after Kawaii didn't meet whatever their demands were, they quit.

>> No.50217814

>>50190461
>our verdict
are you a woman or just a faggot? think for yourself

>> No.50218637

>>50217621
This is the most common explanation I've seen, and it makes a lot of sense. But I've also seen people claim she kept all of the money, which is completely retarded to me. No company on the fucking planet would give up ~35K when it's contractually obligated to them (international legal chicanery notwithstanding).

I guess that part makes more sense if you're too autistic to have ever actually had a real job though.

>> No.50220374

>>50218637
kawaii returned the dono to her paypigs because she couldn't do the rewards.
ratt said that her paypigs gave the money directly to her.

>> No.50220838
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50220838

>>50217235
> destroy your gen

>> No.50221530

The company is fine but kind of a control freak and could chill a little also management should have taken the suggestion to use targeted ads.
They just got very unlucky with some shitty talents.

>> No.50221839

>>50221530
Well, they are running ad's now so that's something. They run around the same rate as phase connect I think, which is ads for special occassion and events.

>> No.50222640

>>50215064
no? they was her long time day 1 fans.

>> No.50223008

>>50221839
Glad to hear.
I do like Prodcution Kawaii, not my to go girls to watch regularly but I still think the girls are great and the company is ok and I like its vision.

>> No.50225091

>>50220838
women moment

>> No.50226050

>>50218637
>But I've also seen people claim she kept all of the money
nobody claims that. when people she she kept the money they mean she kept her cut, which she did, and left kawaii to do all the refunds.

>> No.50227395

>>50217621
>horsegirl
Whorse

>> No.50228104

>>50214584
Even Miori Celesta cut ties with Oceane. It’s speaks volumes that none of the indies she was friends with came to her defense back then, or since gen 3 left

>> No.50228478

You wish your kawaii or /same/ whore had even half of Oceane talent and charisma

>> No.50228678

>>50228478
Oceane is a decent singer and thats it. She is still getting good at ASMR, her second strongest point when it comes to appeal. She is a terrible gamer and not that good at zatsudans either. She would also constantly throw tantrums and scold chat for stupid shit like "dont call me mommy" while at the same time putting out shorts and during streams doing the whole "strict asian mom" act. Its like what the fuck do you expect? Of course kids are gonna bring that shit up.

>> No.50228774

>>50228478
>Oceane fan
>Calling any other girl a whore
EL OH EL

>> No.50229170

>>50190461
The best VTuber agency in the world. They all stream regularly, care about their fans and Kawaii itself, and almost no yabs at all.

>> No.50229216

>This same thread for the 5000th time with the same schizos quoting each other
I guess this is why no one will ever like you incels

>> No.50229437

>>50229216
It's just jealous Holocultists seething at Kawaii's unironic success and eventual eclipsing of their actual black company when it finally goes under next week.

>> No.50229582

>>50191508
Is this on purpose?

>> No.50230674

>>50229582
No, they targeted the Anime Expo period and got lucky with the dates.

>> No.50233662

>>50228678
she's your wife, not your mommy

>> No.50235100

>>50195855
so they finally realized how obvious they were being about it? it still went on for a long time

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