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Did Tempus really steal their fans?

>> No.50160972

>>50160912
If they did then we need to see who stole them from Tempus, cause their numbers are sad

>> No.50161014

Oh, yeah, Alban is a thing. He's EN again?

>> No.50161032

>>50160912
2k isnt good?
>t. anon who dont watch homos or nijisanji

>> No.50161515

>>50161032
For a Bday celebration it ain't good

>> No.50161572

I don't know about viewers, but Better sure stole some paypigs

>> No.50161987

I don't think tempus could steal mail from a front porch, let alone anybody's viewers

>> No.50162139

>>50160912
Before Cover got their own male EN branch, people here said it was a stupid idea and the (early) NijiEN males' success was not copyable because their fans were all chink fujos who of course would never watch Cover vtubers. So if Tempus did steal their audience, anons were wrong - or Tempus has another audience, separate from NijiEN, and OP is wrong.

Either way, the reasons for NijiEN males' recline has probably less to do with audiences migrating to StarsEN, and more with problems or simply staleness in the NijiEN branch itself (similarly to how HoloEN girls' recline has little to do with NijiEN girls, as those don't see a commensurate audience boost, and more to do with problems within HoloEN itself).

>> No.50162778

>>50161572
kek what? really?

>> No.50163503
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>>50160912
It's hard to say considering Tempiss themselves are barely above 3views.
I think it's just people walking away from vtubing, Tempiss didn't have much of an impact on the Niji decline even when Magni and Vesper were the hot shit.

>> No.50163659

>>50161014
He cut the hypothetical red ribbon of HoloEN x NijiEN partnership by collabing with Altare.

>> No.50167571

>>50161032
For a corpo? Yeah, it's horrible. Pippa could easily get that in her normal streams.

>> No.50167683

>>50163503
Say what you will, but Stars didn't make a dent in NijiJP's homos, and history was doomed to repeat itself with Tempiss, even with the sinking ships that are Luxiem and Noctyx.

>> No.50168065

>>50167683
It repeated almost beat by beat with StarsEN having a few low 4views and the rest being 3views needing raids or events to go above that mark, but Cover truly believed this would be their time and pushed 8 of them in 6 fucking months. The hilarious part about it is that they actually understood how much of a fuckup that retarded decision was to the point they made a new open auditions form exclusive for HoloEN.

>> No.50168385

>>50168065
It's almost like a tragedy. Cover does a lot right, but they learned precisely nothing from the failure of StarsJP, even with the boost of popularity Roberu got from the memes. To add on the salt in the wound that was StarsJP 3, which was basically DOA. All the signs read that Tempus was a bad idea, but you can't blame them for trying, considering HoloEN had meteoric levels of popularity and Luxiem struck gold with the chink fujos. At least they learned, which is more than I can say for Riku.

>> No.50168778

>>50160912
>not even his highest numbers for that stream
>tempiss are all 3view shitters except the clown
If they're stealing viewers they aren't doing a very good job

>> No.50169071

>>50168385
They still tried at the expense of HoloEN, something they should've never done it and there are plenty of example of other, much bigger companies who tried to attract a new market at the expense of their main one that got close to or straight up went into bankruptcy. The fact that HoloEN is still at the top in the west is a testament of how retarded their competitors are and not how smart Cover is.

>> No.50169205

>>50160912
Vanguard did. As far as I'm concerned no Nijifag would go to HQ

>> No.50169299

>>50169205
>Vanguard did
If they stole anything then those fans ended up fucking off from vtubers forever because they definitely did not keep any of them.

>> No.50169348

>>50169299
They kept their paypigs and that's better than non-paying viewers.

>> No.50169412

>>50169348
Because Cover only cares about whales, right?

>> No.50169540

>>50160912
You should use Vox's instead of Alban. Nijisis left him in droves for Doppio(2.434) and Bettel(Tempiss)

>> No.50169605

>>50161032
Tempiss bdays almost got 10k ccv even with overlap, so yes. It's pretty bad

>> No.50169644

>>50168385
>At least they learned
They literally shat out a 2nd gen of homoENs that nobody asked for, while claiming that everyone had asked for it.
And even to this day Yagoo still personally shills Tempiss a lot.

>> No.50169734

>>50169644
Oh that's the blue homo's fault. Funny part is no one else in Tempus knows about it except him.

>> No.50169784

>>50169412
Pretty much otherwise they wouldn't be telling StarsJP to encourage others to buy memberships and merch.

>> No.50170240

>>50169644
Yagoo is just a desperate faggot who wants more guys to groom. Simple as.

>> No.50170373

>>50161032
It’s his birthday celebration.

>> No.50170446
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>>50169348
Did they though?

>> No.50170518

>>50170446
Yeah. I didn't stutter.

>> No.50171343

>>50169784
They're doing that because most of the StarsJP members are completely incompetent in regards to growing their audiences so they depend in their current, small one to buy whatever bullshit they offer to them.

>> No.50171405

>>50160912
Gamer wave will be Luxiem 2.0

>> No.50171441

>>50160912
Nigga it's 12 noon on a weekday while the Chinese are at work

>> No.50171462

>>50160912
A sizable amount of the clowns fans are ex-niji. People are kind of sick of the drama.

>> No.50171557

>>50169644
Tempus was originally supposed to be a 6 man group but at the last minute split into two separate 4 men groups due to Johnny come lately additions.

>> No.50172087

>>50171343
Well whatever Astel and Roberu are doing is working. Maybe they should follow their example.

>> No.50172122

>>50171557
I don't believe it. The other two didn't have manga pages and that's all just lore BS anyway.

>> No.50172425

>>50172087
Unfortunately none of them outside of maybe Gamma really wants to do that, so that's a lost cause. Their audiences coddled them too much to the point most of them are either incapable of understand their own shortcomings or just don't care about it, and Cover for better or for worse isn't cutthroat to the point of axing the branch for underperforming which makes them even more unlikely to change. The worst part is how one of the biggest culprits for the standard merch treatment they're now under are the Starsfags themselves who tried their hardest to maintain the "comfy" and "small" fanbase the dudes have instead of pushing them to do their best to become more popular, and now they're forced to do this if they want to have the same treatment Hololive has.

>>50172122
They were literally teased with the whole blue faggot has amnesia thing on that manga. Red twink also mentioned that he was the gorilla manager during their first Rust stream.

>> No.50173007

>>50160912
no

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>>50160912
You tell me

>> No.50173344

>numbers thread besides the numbers general thread.
Should be a bannable offense.

>> No.50173627

>>50173344
But it’s not. So go fuck yourself. Simple as.

>> No.50174778

>>50160912
there's only 0.1% of fags and fujos in the market
kek
it's limited

>> No.50176775

>>50160912
Yes and no, they cater to different audiences in many ways. People just self sorted accordingly.

>> No.50177830

>>50160912
>Did Tempus really steal their fans?
maybe

>> No.50177910

>>50173627
I could split your misshapen brown skull with ease, smelly manlet shitskin.

>> No.50178165

>>50169644
>while claiming that everyone had asked for it.
who said that?

>> No.50178330

>>50178165
It's somewhat of a misquote but Omega came back from his hiatus to say that "our voices were heard" before announcing the homos.

>> No.50178346

>vox 10k
>tempus 1k or 3view
yeah, no

>> No.50178514

>>50178346
For an offcollab 10k isn't that great either, especially for VOX. He's past his prime.

>> No.50178537

>>50160912
I don't think women are built for watching long livestreams unless you come really hard with the pandering nonstop.

>> No.50178579

>>50178346
After a string of flop asmr so he did
>off collab
>asmr
>fujobait
All in one just to get 10k. He can't get that "normally" anymore.

>> No.50178640

>>50178346
>>50178579
So Tempus not only isn't able to steal anything from Luxiem they also came after those faggots lost most of their viewers? Wow, what a great idea, Yagoo.

>> No.50178661
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50178661

Tempus walked so Hololive could run laps around Nijisanji

>> No.50178689

>>50178661
They could've just debuted more girls and the results would be the same.

>> No.50178737

>>50172425
> the Starsfags themselves who tried their hardest to maintain the "comfy" and "small" fanbase the dudes have instead of pushing them to do their best to become more popular.
Man, people don't kid when they say that /vt/ is the least 4chan board on this site. There's plenty of people in this place that would say that the more underground something is, the more value it has. From where I see, the Stars never really needed to achieve the same sucess as the main branch. As long as they can sustain themselves by doing what they're doing and have a public that appreciates them for it, it should be fine.

>> No.50178915

>>50178737
>As long as they can sustain themselves by doing what they're doing
But here's the thing: they're struggling. A lot treat it as a side gig and some are barely scraping by having budget only to do the bare minimum without spare cash for bigger projects, and now they have to deal with the whole standardized merch problem which most likely reduces their cut from sales since they only have input in one or two items while the rest is all generic stuff that Cover takes care of. You're right that they don't need to be as successful as the big Hololive girls but they also shouldn't be fine with the state that they are right now, and only Roberu and Astel really think about that and it's why they're trying harder than the rest.

>> No.50179439

>>50161572
yeah I checked the account names, that was surprising

>> No.50179473

>>50160972
must be sad for you if they don't give a shit huh?

>> No.50179541

>>50178915
It sounds like you're assuming on the cut, from what I've seen in threads the stars make back their money for their birthday and anniversary events and not all of them can branch out to the fps box or want to be a sidekick to a female vtuber and alienate what fans they do have like Roberu or Astel.

>> No.50179745

>>50179541
You meant birthdays/anniversaries from last year? Because now they straight up don't have anniversary merch anymore and only get the standard merch on their birthdays. If they want custom merch now they need to reach milestones that look like 100k increments, and we don't know how much they got from the standard ones since the first one to receive the treatment was Rikka back in April.

>> No.50179779

None of you watch Alban it seems. He's been distant from EN as a whole and hasn't been the same since he got Korean hag pussy

>> No.50179955

>>50177910
Too bad you can’t split this skull you pathetic faggot. You also just assume I’m some brownie? Lmao did me telling you to go fuck your self hurt you so badly that you went straight to brain dead racism? LOOOOOOL

>> No.50180053

>>50178915
We can only hope that Cover going public has a negative affect on the fag branch. God be willing may he imbue the investors with anti homo rage.

>> No.50180143

>>50178915
I don't accompany Roberu and Astel that much, but from what I know, they managed to grow by expanding outside the Hololive influential sphere, didn't they? A lot of their fans have also complained that the hololive brand is more a debuff than anything to them wich makes me believe that Cover is more of a negativity to them than vice versa. In that regard, maybe it'd be best if the branch was dismantled so that the boys could have a try in go indie and do stuff without having to worry about corporations shareholders and stuff.

>> No.50180180

>>50179745
No I mean recently, didn't one of the smaller starsjp have a birthday and revealed he made back the money he put into it? Astel has said that too and he goes over budget every time, since the change is so recent and there aren't any numbers for it a lot of merch cut has always been assumptions. It sounds like they have dedicated gachis even if a small amount.

>> No.50180347

>>50161515
>>50170373
>>50169605
Are you guys retarded? Have a problem with reading comprehension? The title says "birthday COUNTDOWN", the real celebration is not even started yet
>https://youtu.be/ideLwSCLaa0

>> No.50180360

>>50180143
Yes, and Astel recently started joking about joining NeoPorte. In reality the Stars can grow under the brand but they will never have access to the Hololive audience, no matter how much they try. They will always have to look outwards and try to grab the attention of viewers from other vtubers otherwise they'll forever be in 3view hell, and a lot of them are more than fine with that and it's unlikely they'll change their ways even with the new milestone treatment.

>>50180180
Then it would be a birthday that happened early this year/last year because they literally can't know if the standard merch did well yet since it's not even 2 months since it started.

>> No.50180494

>>50178330
And now he’s fired. Guy was handed success on a platter with Myth and Council and managed to fuck up when he actually had to do work.
Anyways, the biggest problem is that it’s obvious Gen3 got skipped in favor of the homos instead of having a proper separate release cycle like ID/JP and StarsJP have. Even homobeggars didn’t want VG and thought Yagoo was going full Nijisanji. The stark difference to how HQ was received by the girls compared to VG shows that even they were upset about it to some extent.

>> No.50181322

>>50178915
>they also shouldn't be fine with the state that they are right now

Holostars had kimono reveals at the start of 2021 in which they set themselves subscriber goals for the year
Miyabi: 100K (reached in August)
Izuru: 200K (reached in August 2022)
Aruran: 200K (hasn't reached it yet)
Rikka: No subscribers goal (had 90K)
Temma: 100K (reached in August)
Astel: No subscriber goal (had 40K)
Roberu; No subscriber goal (had 100K)
Shien: 200K (reached in July 2022)
Oga: No subscriber goals (had 50K)

It's no surprise they got demotivated when only Miyabi and Temma (who set low expectations for themselves) achieved their goals and most of them have the exact CCV as back then. I wish they'd try harder, but I'm just happy none of them graduated

>> No.50181589

>>50180494
I just hope the new guy is smart enough to bring back HoloEN to something close to their golden period. If he truly knows what he's doing an EN3 will debut in the next coming weeks and those auditions they announced are for EN4 already and they're focusing hard on debuting more girls considering how the new form makes it explicit it's for HoloLIVE EN.

>>50181322
I remember that. Kek, Seaweed being the runt of StarsJP early on will never not surprise me, he really did everything he could to incline and it paid wonders for him. It's a shame the rest of the branch doesn't have a fourth of his or Roberu's dedication.

>> No.50181990

>>50181589
I think it will debut around concert time or be announced there. In that case, these audition reminders are for gen 4 which would signal that EN is trying to make up for lost time knowing they fucked up by letting the branch stagnate (they truly believed Hololive viewers would watch Tempus when the girls were at an all time low in stream time).

>> No.50182306 [DELETED] 

>>50179955
<brain dead racism
KEK. Redditcuck, please go back to r/hololive before you have a mental breakdown and kill yourself by overdosing on estrogen.

>> No.50182369

>>50179955
>brain dead racism
KEK. Redditcuck, please go back to r/hololive before you have a mental breakdown and kill yourself by overdosing on estrogen.

>> No.50182649

>>50181990
I fucking hope so. It'll be absurdly depressing if by Council's anniversary we still don't have a third gen.

>> No.50182704

>>50160912
Tempiss did nothing but hurt HoloEN. They had absolutely nothing to do with NijiEN's recline. Male Vtubers are just dogshit and aimed at mentally ill women.

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>>50182369
I only thought it was brain dead because I’m not brown. Anyway. Shouldn’t you still be seething over this >numbers thread next to numbers thread
Or whatever other faggot crybaby bullshit you slopped out?

>> No.50182759

>>50182704
>homobeggar logic

>> No.50182936

>>50180347
>does 1k

>> No.50182939

>>50182741
Emasculated faggot. I could fuck all your female relatives and you would do nothing about it, little BROWN monkey.

>> No.50183087

>>50181322
>Aruran: 200K (hasn't reached it yet)
oof

>> No.50183250

>>50182939
I doubt you’d fuck anything if you’re prissy enough to whine about numbers threads being outside of the # thread and wanting it to be banworthy. Sounds like being a janitor is more your style.

>> No.50183313

>>50183087
Aruran lost a lot of good will by being a menhera when it came to his model redesign. Around the time the standardized merch appeared, he began spamming Hololive collabs as if he thought it would help him.
Personally I don’t think the redesign did him good cause his personality doesn’t fit the model anymore (he looks like a young, cocky mafioso but that’s not his personality). It was also a bit pathetic that he was whining about wanting to be on the JP Rust server and even thought about doing a watchalong of one of the Stars playing it.

>> No.50183355

>>50183313
>wanting to be on the JP Rust server
true
>even thought about doing a watchalong of one of the Stars playing it
That one was a # anon making stuff up

>> No.50183389

>>50183250
Watch your little FAGGOT mouth, you untermensch brown ape. I need to take a shower after seeing your shit-encrusted posts.

>> No.50183432

>>50183313
Why's he not in it?

>> No.50183808

>>50183389
Go figure. Would assume a future janny would keep himself clean.

>> No.50184030

>>50160912
Yes, which is why they get so much hate.

>> No.50184135

>>50183432
He's talking about the e-celeb Rust server that a few Stars got access to, not the current Stars server.

>> No.50184158

>>50169644
Stars is probably his pet project, which is why he’s so gungho about it.

>> No.50184168

>>50184135
Lol. He should’ve tried not being a literally who?? Nobody if he wanted on the server.

>> No.50184315

>>50184158
He was so gungho that the new EN heads straight up made a new audition form that's explicitly only for HoloEN after the retardation that was releasing 2 Tempus gens back to back without a single new girls gen.

>>50184168
Pretty much. He didn't knew a single soul from there besides the Stars dudes, wasn't part of any of the recent fps events and just started talking about it when Astel, Roberu and Gamma were getting pretty great numbers from it. It was honestly pathetic to see him setting himself up for that failure.

>> No.50184604

>>50184158
This is basically his last shot at making successful male vtubers and keeping Nijisanji from monopolizing the market again. There’s still Tempus third gen slated for later this year I’m guessing and if that still doesn’t work they’ll probably freeze auditions for a while like they did after a StarsJP3

>> No.50184715

>>50179779
Considering the state that NijiEN is in, it’s probably for the best since that branch is a train wreck.

>> No.50184832

>>50184604
They froze for StarsJP because the members at the time asked for it. As for Tempus 3/StarsEN3 the latest announcement for HoloEN auditions had a different form that is exclusive for HoloEN so there's a chance we might not see another new homo gen this year.

>> No.50184950

>>50184832
Tempus third gen started getting advertised in December, basically right before the Jap guy got hired iirc
They made another tweet concerning those auditions at the same time HoloEN auditions went up officially.

>> No.50185065

>>50184950
Here’s hoping they just scrapped it then.

>> No.50185153

>>50184950
And what makes you think they went through with those? Since the reminder was around the time Jap was hired it's likely they froze that and any other project going on so that the new leadership could assess the situation before proceeding with anything, and it's looking like he is more concerned in getting back the time that was lost for HoloEN than expanding the homos. The new form being HoloEN exclusive really tells what are their current goals after all the hardcore push the previous administration did for "muh HoloProEN".

>> No.50185484

>>50185153
Because the reminder went out in February, the same time that ID4 audition reminders got sent out. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if the current members are begging management to not debut more guys cause they managed to cannibalize themselves instead of grow their audience pool. The only ones managing to keep their head above water are Vesper and Bettel at this point.

>> No.50185648

>>50184604
>There’s still Tempus third gen slated for later
nani

>> No.50185829

>>50185484
ID4 didn't have reminders, they had an actual auditions process and only a few weeks ago they changed into an open auditions process that will start with ID5. Also the February reminders were most likely pure lip service on the StarsEN side and it's likely that their only objective was to make people aware that they're still looking for girls, and with the problems you mentioned with their current numbers plus the fact that it looks like they're completely focusing on HoloEN I doubt we'll have another homo gen anytime soon.

>> No.50185900

>retards thinking tempus is scrapped when starsjp gets gens with less of an audience
All the coping is starting to get sad.

>> No.50186128

>>50185900
The last time StarsJP got a gen was more than a year ago after an almost 2 year hiatus by request of the members (tho I doubt it would be hard to convince Cover to not do it anyway). You can keep hoping they'll shove more homos down out throats all you want, beggar, but the new form literally says "this auditions is for HoloLIVE English" so the future doesn't look very bright for your boys.

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>>50160912
>last year /#/
12,568

>> No.50186795

>>50186128
Sorry, troonicorn, but you're retarded. Cover has always debuted multiple gens in quick succession for new branches and then slowed down. By your own logic, Hololive in general must be scrapped since the last gen was ID3 over a year ago.
>the new form literally says "this auditions is for HoloLIVE English"
Because stars auditions have already been announced.

>> No.50187046

>>50186795
>multiple gens in quick succession
It took 9 months for them to debut ID2 and then 15 for ID3, and 11 months for Council (10 for IRyS if you're counting her separately). Cover was never as fast as they were with the homos for any of the foreign gens, and neither ID nor EN are in a healthy enough place to have an almost 2 year delay between new gens, ESPECIALLY EN. Also there's no auditions form for StarsEN, there's only the HoloPro one that were created back when they announced the open auditions, but you can keep believing that Cover will continue to spam homos because they really give a shit about your voice, beggar.

>> No.50187143

>>50160912
Tempiss have fans? Chinks and sea fujos don't count they aren't even people with rights.

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>>50187046
So true, troonicorn sister! They aren't looking for more males at all! That's why they used Tempus exclusively to advertise it!
Daily reminder: the only group to ever be scrapped has been and will always be from the girls' side kek

>> No.50187640

>>50186795
>>50187332
>troon
go back

>> No.50190690

>>50160912
whats that website sister

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