[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers


View post   

File: 827 KB, 1546x739, 1670630571971834.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50014088 No.50014088 [Reply] [Original]

GET bullshit killed the thread- Edition

>What is /fig/?
/fig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss idol vtubers who play fighting games, either from large companies, small ones, or indies, as well as to discuss fighting games about Hololive and other vtubers in general.

>So is this thread about fighting games or Idol showdown?
Neither: this is a thread about idols and fighting games.

>But what is an idol?
An idol is something unobtainable and moe that makes your kokoro go doki doki (WIP)

>Idol Showdown wiki
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Idol_Showdown

>IS patch notes & Beta builds
https://steamdb.info/app/1742020/patchnotes/
https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1660016297164390405

>Glossary of Fighting Terms
https://glossary.infil.net/

>Hololive Smash Clone fangame
https://twitter.com/AoiSora_3D

>Fighting Idols
Coyote
https://www.youtube.com/@Coyote_KemoV
Coyo from Kemono Friends, likes Tekken.
Shimada Tiger
www.twitch.tv/shimadatiger (embed) (tiger) (tiger) (tiger uppercut) (tiger)
Genki Tiger who likes SFV, SFVI and Guilty Gear
Nade chama
twitch.tv/nadechama (embed)
Comfy witch with an obsession over GBVS and other anime fighters
Rie Himemiya
youtube.com/@HimemiyaRie
Cute princess who recently picked up Strive, has played Idol Showdown on stream

>But....What the hell is an idol?
[Definition Pending]

>are non idols ok?
As long as they are playing idol Showdown yes I guess? We need to figure that one out

>"FT10 NOOB!" "My oshi can beat your oshi!"
Take that somewhere else, this thread is full of newbies who just want to play the funny idol game. Be nice.

>How do I git gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm9IECEnKHQ [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R0hbe8HZj0 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2wX4EiD5tg [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtoDCmvN_5M [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>Twitter Hashtags for Character Tech
https://pastebin.com/XQtD5D1y

>Discord alternative for hosting tournament only (DO NOT USE UNLESS YOU PLAN TO HOST):
https://y99.in/r/1061387

>News for May 19 2023

-Collab patch implemented https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1659433734175637505
-Street Fighter VI beta is officially live!
- Mori is preparing an Idol Showdown tournament ANY MOMENT SOON
- First /vt/ tournament in two weeks! Assuming we can find a host!
- /fi/ggers explore discord alternatives not to end like /fgg/:
Discord was a mistake, says /fgg/ survivor.
- Coyodachis seen refunding SFVI after Coyo did not touch the beta, some say they will stay play it if only for Chun li MILF hips
-Shimadatachis sleeping now due to ASMR free feel to steal their wallets
- Nadetachis have no general so they live here now
- Will the new Phase connect gen have a dedicated fighter games player? Polls predict no with 100% results
- Opinion: Forecasters predict a day will come when there will be intense OP wars. Experts recommend making six other threads too when it happens in order to kill all the bait threads as well
-No one reads the OP so bakers can literally write anything here
-HEY GUYS
-Today confidence status: Lots of confidence!

>Tiermaker of characters
https://tiermaker.com/create/idol-showdown-characters-86484

>tigers
>https://www.twitch.tv/zoolifetiger (install) (install) (install) (install) (yubi) (yubi) (install) (install) (install)

And remember: No discords, no names, no fighting. Only idols and love.

Other useful threads
>>>/vt/hfz/
>>>/vt/ybc/
>>>/vt/fps
>>>/vt/tsunx/
>>>/vt/kemoV/
>>>/vt/doog/
>>>/vt/pcg/
>>>/vt/tekken/ Tuesdays/ (only on Tuesdays)

Previous

>> No.50014304

>>50014088
why are those particular threads linked in OP?

>> No.50014400

>>50014088
LIVE

>> No.50014525
File: 3.27 MB, 2893x4092, 1680444552073372.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50014525

>>50014304
The three first are there because they are game related.
Tsunx, kemov, tekken, are there for shimada, coyo and Rie, and Doog for yubi
I just add/remvoe whatever people suggest once it hit bump limit anyway

>> No.50015208

>no subject

>> No.50015490
File: 73 KB, 300x168, 1660965222251447.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50015490

>>50015208
I was in a rush

>> No.50017786

SFVI soon pls

>> No.50018347

Dead thread dead game dead hololive branch
Captcha: yso gay

>> No.50018453
File: 83 KB, 646x655, mcdonald.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50018453

Newfag question: why isn't Gura in Idol Showdown? I thought she was the most popular english hololiver by a wide margin?

>> No.50018493

AYAME MY HONEST WIFE

>> No.50018595

>>50018453
She wasnt active in 2020 which is when they started making the game.
My guess is that they will be released during the EN batch along with Ina and Mori so not next one

>> No.50018830
File: 81 KB, 1200x800, suisei.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50018830

>>50018493
die.

>> No.50019260

>>50018493
>Only honest character is the brazilian
The reverse of real life

>> No.50019517

>>50019260
Too bad none of them have a decent connection. I seriously haven't played an Ayame that has a decent connection.

>> No.50019636

>>50018595
oh is it all japanese tubers right now?

>> No.50019683

>>50019636
except for 2 assists yeah

>> No.50019694

>>50014088
>-No one reads the OP so bakers can literally write anything here
I see (You).

>> No.50020233

>>50014088
>GET bullshit killed the thread
don't blame that on the general uninterest in these threads. smaller generals than this one survived just fine.

>> No.50020328

>>50020233
I would had bumped it but it was dead in less than 40 minutes

>> No.50020815

>>50020233
but then, how can we make these threads more active?

>> No.50021096

>>50019694
Finally someone did read the op

>> No.50021270

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmRiHUJ1AiA
ebin

>> No.50021360

>>50021270
cute

>> No.50021364

Having now played your character, I can confidently say
one: EX DP pickup is some ultra fuckin bullshit. This bitch doin 40% on wakeup wtf
two: her stagger game is some real shit due to this game's hitstop + vacuuming + sc cancels + chip + ghost. Spaced properly, that shit can be damn scary.
three: her buttons are just short of godlike. You don't even have to risk your way in - crouch block, chicken block and easily throw out a button when they least expect into a full meterless confirm into anime. Hell, flip is fuckin -5 AT WORST; 236X are pokes in their own right and 2M might as well not have recovery at all lmao.
You idiots have NOTHING to complain about except say 214H gives nothing despite being metered and huh... her base custom colors being kinda shit.

>> No.50021551

>>50021364
I feel this applies to many chars

>> No.50023087
File: 2.00 MB, 1500x2143, 1677049194329115.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50023087

>>50020815
The only answer is making your reps

>> No.50023208

>Shimada doing Fightcade tomorrow
Wonder what prompted her to bring it back

>> No.50024359

>>50023208
Probably playing SFVI with a bunch of boomer 40 year old kens

>> No.50024511

>>50023208
SF6 addiction withdrawals. Street Fighter and Tekken cured her of anime fighters.

>> No.50024544

>>50024511
It's for the best
Strive is a horrible thing

>> No.50025023

>>50024544
True

>> No.50025763

>>50025023
What makes it so bad?

>> No.50027465

>>50025763
Bullshit mechanics

>> No.50027520

>>50023087
But when are you making yours hmm?

>> No.50027936

>>50025763
It is effectively the last big game from the "simplification era" of fighting games, which was when devs decided the best way to bring new players was cutting everything that was interesting and different from the previous entries for a sterile and super focused system. Some people liked it, in particular people who had Strive as their first GG, while old fans of the series and other fg veterans didn't like it as much or straight up hated it.

>> No.50028286

>>50027936
>Simplification era
Is that why KOF XV has autocombos?

>> No.50028804

>>50028286
To a lesser extent, but it's more related to games in that era removing and retooling character to have less commands. KOFXV actually goes the opposite way while giving back a bunch of missing specials that were missing since KOFXIII, but in that game's case they were removed not due to a conscious design choice but because of budget constraints. SFV and Strive are the most emblematic games of that era and if you take the former's movelists and compare it with SF6 you'll see a stark different of the gameplay philosophies between the games.

>> No.50029323

I think I finally getting the timing for Sora's mid-combo dashes

>> No.50029506

>>50028804
>SF6 vs SFV

So they gave up on gathering casuals

>> No.50029581

>>50029323
gambatte an idol never gives up

>> No.50029646

>>50029506
No, they realized dumbing down the gameplay and removing options won't bring in casuals.

>> No.50030481

>>50029506
They realized casuals like single player and custom characters and went for that instead. SF6 has what veterans and casuals want in one package because they stayed true to both.

>> No.50031926

>>50029646
>>50030481
I actually heard good things about SF6 single player and bad stuff about everything else

>> No.50032112

>>50031926
Are you spending too much time on /vg/ or you're taking your info from Dunkey? Because the only thing I've seen people talking about that wasn't wholly positive is the new artstyle and some of the animations, otherwise SF6 has only received praises from all angles.

>> No.50032395
File: 148 KB, 1837x1041, 1617636994988.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50032395

I fucking did it

>> No.50032451

>>50032112
>Are you spending too much time on /vg
Actually yes

>> No.50032525

>>50032395
good good

>> No.50032768

>>50032451
There's your answer then.

>> No.50033514

>>50032768
should had guessed it

>> No.50035780

>>50032395
Competed a Virtual Arcade run
I think I am finally ready for online gaming

>> No.50038243

>>50035780
Train some more before in training mode or you will get wrecked

>> No.50040812

>>50033514
/vg/ hates pretty much everything so it's obvious they will find any excuse to shit on SF6. Sometimes the criticism is valid, tho most often than not is just people saying "different game is bad because its different" or them using the trademarked 4chan newfag cynicism.

>>50038243
He will never learn if he doesn't get wrecked.

>> No.50043857

>>50038243
getting wrecked is part of the process

>> No.50044488

Is it me or is the game eating up inputs more compared to a few weeks ago?

>> No.50044659

>>50044488
They changed how the game reads inputs recently. It's harder to accidentally get 22 inputs for example.

>> No.50045522

>>50038243
My first match online was a mirror who beat into me everything I needed to know, so I'm glad for that.

>> No.50047545

Aki love

>> No.50047549

>>50044659
That explains why teleporting has been harder as aki

>> No.50049672

>>50032395
Nice

>> No.50051329

Bump

>> No.50052145

>>50014088
Retard, I clicked this thread thinking it was a shitpost because you left out the subject.
Do better next time.

>> No.50053079

>>50051329
Seconded

>> No.50053862

Fast board.

>> No.50054271

Reminder that Sora is actually top tier and don't let Sora fags try to trick you to believe that they are some underdog.

>> No.50054431

>>50053862
Dammit what now

>> No.50054542

>>50018595
Some of the meme stuff like the Risu truck is from 2022 though and Myth debuted in September of 2020.

>> No.50054727

>>50054542
The assist and the trophies are easy to include but characters are probably being released in the order they were worked on

>> No.50055237

WTF?! Sora is way too cute! How am I supposed to interrupt her wackass 5m blockstrings?! Trade?! And why do her buttons have such range?! It goes further than my fuckin MOVELIST at -10!! HOW?!! She can zone AND anti-zone at the same time?! For fuckin what reason?! And once you're in the corner? DEATH! I demand nerfs NOW!! An entire FUCKIN set and I all I can manage to steal is 3 games?!! Holy shit! Which FUCKTARD thought this was OK?!! How do Bakayames even survive?! 236X is even actually disjoint! Why is there a goddamn extended hurtbox during RECOVERY?! Who the fuck asked?!! Why do I NEVER have meter?! How am I supposed to commit EX DP frawdhulence without the goddamn meter?! What the fuck am I supposed to AA with?! 2H?! REALLY?! Fuck Dickora! Fuck DLC!! I want proper fuckin balance RIGHT FUCKIN NOW!!

>> No.50055336

>>50055237
Don't you love how Sora can win a round off a 5M/6M ON BLOCK because she can get orange note out that you can't do anything about and push you all the way into the corner? Yea.

>> No.50056189

Anyone wants to fight a newcomer SA with shit internet? I promise I'm wired at least
1DA88F59

>> No.50057322
File: 158 KB, 600x600, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50057322

>>50056189
Still here...

>> No.50058037

>>50057322
I joined, I'm new as well.

>> No.50058387

>>50058037
ok going in

>> No.50059225

>>50058387
Sorry, think my internet cut out. Still can play more if you are up for it

>> No.50059293
File: 958 KB, 955x1351, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50059293

>>50059225
I g2g but it was fun
thanks it taught me a lot
you were my first online match ever

>> No.50059559

>>50059293
GGs, if someone's putting pressure and you are blocking everything, throw in some light punches and try to counterhit them.

>> No.50059633

>>50059559
hmm hmm
guessI need to study which moves are + in block but I still dont understand that frame business

>> No.50061576

>>50059633
Put simply + usually means you have enough time to do something before the opponent can do anything. - means the opponent will likely be able to do something first before you can do anything. So knowing what your opponent's character's - moves are and what moves your character can do that can take advantage of that can help you choose what to do when you see it coming.

>> No.50061771

>>50061576
hmm hmm

>> No.50063410
File: 1.39 MB, 1123x1296, 1683378456779697.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50063410

Sora players are whores

>> No.50064615

>>50063410
They indeed are

>> No.50066809

But I like whores...

>> No.50067420

>>50066809
Go back to lig

>> No.50068558
File: 156 KB, 500x281, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50068558

>>50067420
I love figdols

>> No.50069163

Artist formerly known as Slugma is officially cute
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Mihfz5jxPAY

>> No.50069688

How does ayame rekka outside of 2m?

>> No.50070844

>>50069688
hardly

>> No.50073643
File: 370 KB, 758x697, Fl2am2TaEAEI4gQ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50073643

alright /fig/, who should I learn in third strike?

so far I'm thinking Dudley or maybe Makoto

>> No.50073743

>>50073643
Learn Ken. move to brazil and play on wifi

>> No.50073758

>>50073643
Makoto is fine
Cute is justice

>> No.50073873

>>50073643
Makoto

>> No.50073943

>>50073743
i'm not a shoto cringelord

>>50073758
>>50073873
my only reservation is shimada plays makoto and i don't wanna show up to her stream biting her style

>> No.50073954
File: 36 KB, 500x500, avatars-000182086510-rn5fm8-t500x500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50073954

>>50014088
>No subject

>> No.50074024

>>50073943
I reccomended makoto precisely because mirror matches would teach you the most about your char and I assumed you were going to fight Shimada today me too I main Chun li

>> No.50074670

>>50055336
Also she gets 5M at round start so she starts pushing you in the corner already. I learned with Coco I can at least trade with note with fire breath and get a knockdown, or 236H to just bypass the note. But then it becomes a mindgame. If she doesn’t throw the note, I get punished for using fire or super cartwheel. Fubuki could probably do the same thing with tatsu, my main issue with her is that her pokes fucking suck.

>> No.50074675
File: 943 KB, 595x810, 1683362166732879.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50074675

Devs add Luna with an argentinian flag skin or else

>> No.50074752

>>50069163
Does she play fighting games? I recall back in the tsunderia arc she asked shimada to train her

>> No.50074944

>>50073943
Also what was the trick to get roms in fightcade
the jav thing
It;s been a while

>> No.50075388

>>50074944
https://fightcade.guide/

>> No.50075439

>>50075388
thanks thanks

>> No.50076876

>>50075388
Ok i think i got it to work

>> No.50077477

>>50076876
No it didnt

>> No.50077546

>>50075388

>Saw Shimada Tiger in the lobby of SFIII just now
>She must be testing the game
>Too much spaghetti to challenge her
> too much spagetti to join her discord

Life is suffering

>> No.50077765

>>50077546
>too much spagetti to join her discord
you couldn't ask for a more approachable chuuba. for all the bluster some chuubas give about being "one of the boys," she actually pulls it off pretty effortlessly.

>> No.50077843

>>50077546
Nigga just join the fucking discord no one in global has to know

>> No.50078481

>>50077765
Even so, I can't...

>> No.50078512

>>50078481
tigerbro... even her community is very welcoming. please. you can't keep doing this.

>> No.50078783

Been gone for a week, has Aki been patched yet?

>> No.50079354

>>50078783
Never

>> No.50080297
File: 8 KB, 186x186, le sad shark MAX MODE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50080297

>>50079354

>> No.50080359

>>50080297
Devs waifu will never be nerfed
might as well learn her

>> No.50080983
File: 33 KB, 1103x755, persecuted.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50080983

>>50078783
Ok it finally worked

>> No.50081986

80DCC5B5
Someone from South America join, I wanna check something

>> No.50082799
File: 97 KB, 1369x851, Ft6dOkYaYAAZxEs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50082799

>>50081986
I'm your guy

>> No.50082943

>>50081986
well I never said I was good

>> No.50082983

>>50082799
>>50082943
Cheers, I wanted to see if the net issues were on my end since the last 10 matches I had were above 200 ping and I didn't know if it was people from the other side of the world joining me or if it was just me.
Apparently it's me since I'm also an argie so.

>> No.50083053

>>50082983
is your oshi luna too? there is a bunch of us spic lunaitos

>> No.50083088

>>50083053
I oshi Aqua and Shion

>> No.50083125

>>50083088
good choices
Love that baka onion

>> No.50085124
File: 140 KB, 1920x1080, 1680949664664173.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50085124

Sora is too weak she needs a buff NOW. Her damage is too low to have any chance she's so bottom tier right now...

>> No.50085284

>>50085124
are you trying to trick the developers just because they are clearly here and will believe literally anything we say?

>> No.50085691

Make Oni Flip hit overhead

>> No.50085848
File: 2.22 MB, 3840x2160, 1680329647335822.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50085848

>>50085284
No I'm being sincere here she's too hard to master with little payoff. Devs PLEASE

>> No.50086108
File: 241 KB, 1145x689, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50086108

My body is ready

>> No.50086574

Am I the only one that checked out completely of Idol Showdown after the SF6 beta?
I've seen the devs do a weird beta patch thingy for the IS. This was so unecessary. I don't really get what they're going for with the game and it doesn't make me want to come back to it

>> No.50086647

>>50086574
Nah it's completely empty since a week ago.

>> No.50086830

>>50086647
That's a shame. Didn't even made a full fotm cycle. The game is pretty fun despite being a kusoge, it could have live longer with better timing

>> No.50086967

>>50086574
They did the beta for a patch because the 1.2 patch majorly broke shit, so I guess now they use betas to trust so it doesn’t happen again. Shit was crazy, if you used Burst against Coco she could become invincible for the rest of the round and timer scam you if she was ahead.

>> No.50087200

>>50086574
Most fightans pros will go away and only hololivers will remain
I'm here to main my oshi dont care about anythign else

>> No.50090009

Shimada with SF3 soon

>> No.50090327

get

>> No.50090534
File: 93 KB, 720x720, b7ee294d3d441f0304d66c9021ef27bc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50090534

>>50090327
what where you even aiming for

>> No.50091585

>>50086574
It's not unnecessary at all, they're indie devs trying to fix and implement a bunch of shit at once. It was inevitable that a patch who break things. Betas help prevent that from happening again.

>> No.50092282

>>50091585
So... when is the new character beta coming out

>> No.50092540

>>50090534
ready for the next battle

>> No.50092626
File: 588 KB, 2803x4093, Fv7jMs-aMAMEPkn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50092626

>>50090534
suisex

>> No.50093013
File: 698 KB, 1280x1000, 1595269973023.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50093013

Anyone from NA region feel like playing some matches in Idol Showdown? I'll throw up a room if so.

>> No.50093132

>>50093013
Best I can do is SA, sorry

>> No.50093136

>>50093013
Sure, set one up and I’ll be there.

>> No.50093357

>>50093136
Cool
8D605DF1

>> No.50093561

>>50093357
You were from NA right? Game was shitting itself

>> No.50093653

>>50093561
I think the microwave or something is screwing the connection, gotta wait for this guy to finish.

>> No.50093696
File: 274 KB, 1244x1563, E3JmOpZX0Ac1LY3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50093696

dunno if you guys allow chuuba links with games other than fightin idols but i heard you liked shimada
https://www.twitch.tv/shimadatiger
she's live with SF3 3rd strike with viewers!

>> No.50093903
File: 142 KB, 480x360, 1669003683743844.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50093903

>>50093696
No one reads the op...
This is the fighting games general + idols
Thank for posting tho read the funny news Shimadatachi Shimada is often featured along with the other only 4 corpos who play fighting games

>> No.50096950
File: 1.22 MB, 1140x1028, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50096950

I lost...

>> No.50098713

Shimada laugh fills me with life

>> No.50099095

>>50098713
best tehehehes around

>> No.50099308

>>50099095
Cute deflating balloon

>> No.50100506

>>50099308
cutest helium rush indeed

>> No.50103153

Twin Fang Double Bump

>> No.50103177
File: 1020 KB, 1099x607, 1683605337875964.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50103177

Shimada skin on IS for Okayu when devs

>> No.50103644

alright third strike is way too fucking hard goddamn

>> No.50103751

>>50103644
the inputs are pretty unforgiving, honestly just makes high level play that much more impressive

>> No.50104118

I like Fumiko Hoshi. She's a vtuber, and she plays fg.

>> No.50104622
File: 1.96 MB, 1423x2048, 1661041248885100.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50104622

>>50104118
But is she an idol? if so I can put her in the op

>> No.50105101

>>50104622
no, she's just cute

>> No.50105156

>>50103751
the wiki for it sucks so much ass too, holy shit, there's so little information of real value here

>> No.50105220
File: 112 KB, 340x340, 1676610712194212.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50105220

>>50105101
>But what is an idol?
>An idol is something unobtainable and moe that makes your kokoro go doki doki

That works for me

>> No.50105309

>>50105220
ok fumi is an idol then :D
https://www.twitch.tv/fumi

>> No.50105341

>>50105156
are you looking at the supercombo wiki? it's got frame data and hitboxes for every move as well as cancel options and meter gain for you and the opponent on each character's page, idk what else you'd want

>> No.50105405

>>50105309
tell me a blurb to put in the op, what games does she plays

>> No.50105523

>>50105341
i'd like a dustloop style explanation of the strengths and weaknesses of each button and special and the contexts in which they should be used, given that's the most relevant thing to learning to use them, whereas supercombo just has strictly mechanical information

>> No.50105832
File: 938 KB, 900x600, 1681090494632816.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50105832

>>50105523
check out the Combos/Matchups/Strategy pages linked at the top of the character page, there's info like that up there, but keep in mind if you're coming from modern fighters the 3S community is pretty old and they use wack terminology based on how they decided to localize the button names for SF2 back in the 90s

>> No.50105887

HOW THE FUCK DO I UNLOCK INFINITE AZURE

>> No.50106063

>>50105405
she is a very good Millia player in Strive but she recently switched to Ram. It looks like she plays Under Night too. She's very nice and she doesn't get tilted.

>> No.50106260

>>50106063
that works, I will put her in next op
Any other suggestions?

>> No.50106475

Playing Idol Showdown made me dust off my fightstick that's been untouched for years.

Had an hour to play the SF6 beta last weekend and I'm actually kinda excited for it now. Sucks that my main boy Bison isn't in the game (yet?) after all the time we've been through since vanilla SF4, but there's plenty of other charge characters to fall back on.

Definitely prefer the back and forth pacing of SF versus anime fighters like IS

>> No.50106537

>>50106475
Idol showdown was just a conspiracy by capcom to get people back into fighting games just before their release

>> No.50107482
File: 44 KB, 640x358, anya-to-the-frontpage-v0-0g2n0jz0vpoa1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50107482

>>50105220
We need more idol discussion to keep this thread alive
So tell me, what is an idol?

>> No.50108199

>>50091585
So maybe don't rush patches every week? Not even NRS was doing this. Just take your time leave the game in the state it is and release a big stable patch when you release a new character

>> No.50108234

>>50105887
Finish Virtual Frontier with gladiator chains

>> No.50108961

>>50107482
According to Kiara: not a Hololive member

>> No.50109727

>>50108199
What a shitty idea. Taking longer with patches is the last thing this game needs. Nor does "longer time" guarantee stable patches. Sometimes there's bugs that'll slip past a small indie dev team, even AAA can't avoid gamebreaking bugs not a chance in hell can a literal free game avoid them.

>> No.50110471

>>50109727
>Nor does "longer time" guarantee stable patches.
Do you have any idea how game developpement even work? Proper QA hours do absolutely improve the stability of a game tenfold. Gamebreaking bugs happen for AAA teams that rush releases without enough QA and/or just ignoring QA's feedback entirely. And it's mostly for games with huge scales. Have you heard of fighting game studio making patches that break the game every other patch? It only happens once in a blues moon because they don't try to rush-fix things past their first emergency fixing patch.

If I was to judge by the credits and the state the game releases in, the small QA team they had for this game was obviously not enough. Now everybody deemed the game to be a kusoge it's too late to do anything about that.

Because of that there is no need to rush. There is virtually no gain to put out a patch every week. People that still play the game at this point will keep playing, people that left won't come back because of small patches every week. The results show there is no hype cycle for that.

Also, they rushed the game release without enough testing: the game was full of bugs at lunch. They rushed an isolated Botan "fix", they rightfully got backlash for it. They rushed a IPS fix, the game adding weird buggy interactions. They rushed a 1.2 patch, they broke the game.
Going fast for stuff like adding voices is fine, but the devs need to learn how to chill and take their time to do things properly when it comes to gameplay

>> No.50110630

>>50085124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V34MGGI65o4
watch this and think it again

>> No.50111392

>>50110471
Yes they absolutely should've left Suisei's jank 5M alone for several months I totally agree

>> No.50113254

Oni front bump

>> No.50113615

>>50108961
Le yagoo dream...

>> No.50113663

>>50110471
If you are a dev please add Luna next
If you are making a Game add Luna first

>> No.50113883

>>50110630
Woah you can pressure with sora like that? That looks cool

>> No.50115886

Impaling knee twin bump

>> No.50115945

>>50110630
Fighting sora is fighting Ram in strive but with the best projectiles in the game as well and there's no air dash/double jump to beat her hueg normal/projectile.

>> No.50117186

>>50110630
>Fubuki's Super getting reflected by A-chan
Wew lad

>> No.50117768

>>50115886
Is the board unusually fast again?

>> No.50118026

1 hour gaps before page 10, so not really

>> No.50118109

Post live links to bump the thread

>> No.50119123

>>50118109
Anyone still playing Idol Showdown at this point?

>> No.50119812

>>50119123
1 views

>> No.50119993

>>50119812
>Find a 1 view femchuuba
>Challenge her
>Post results

>> No.50120164

>>50119993
>Fight club in le secret 4 chan thread
Sounds good

>> No.50120678

>>50120164
Cringe

>> No.50120847

>>50120678
But free

>> No.50122278

>>50120847
Still cringe

>> No.50123117
File: 1.84 MB, 1560x2138, 1662350033385632.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50123117

Slow day, watch are you guys watching?
Also
>Oshi
>IS Main
>SF main through the series if you have one, else any other main from a different one

>> No.50124870

>>50123117
Subaru vods
Haven't played enough fighting games to have mains

>> No.50124950

>>50123117
Nothing atm, Kiara and Kronii later.
Kronii
Coco
None

>> No.50124982
File: 93 KB, 316x500, 1683354590061263 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50124982

The thread waitig for someone to talk to :(

Korone
Korone
My main in SF IV was zangief but i was never good

>> No.50125934

>>50123117
>Shimada
>Suisei
>Cammy

>> No.50126061

>>50110471
Except that's not what happened. Literally no one complained about the beta choice except for your whinny ass. This game isn't good enough to leave questionable designs and things that blatantly need tuning for a patch that takes forever is a garbage approach for the people that want to stick with this game. Letting a wider audience test it gets shit down faster.

>> No.50126110

>>50126061
*done faster
Quicker updates is better for a game that is inevitably jank from being free and gives the illusion of constantly adding to the game in content. Letting a lot of shit sit even longer is the worst thing to do with a game like this, fuck that noise.

>> No.50126412

Being willing to admit their mistakes and involving the audience more in testing of the game only earned them MORE respect in fan reception not less. The idea that it'd be labelled as a kusoge for any mistake at all is purely your own headcanon, not how reality works.

>> No.50127461

>>50126110
You fucking moronic delusional retard. First of, how many people are going to go through the trouble to sign up for the patch beta AND regularly report every bugs they encounter? It's not faster in anyway than putting actually effort to build a team that hunts for bugs + giving them the time to properly test the version. Not even mentionning it will be less and less effective as the playerbase decreases.
You're talking out of your dumb ass without anything about the subject.
Now you braindead bum, broken patches aren't content, the majority the non fgc Holo fans AND of the fgc didn't care about it. They are online 400 players playing the game right now. The game is already destined to become a discord fighter in 2 weeks.
Nobody cared if you unemployed unwashed ass gets the "illusion" of getting content and force the devs to make half assed patches every week. It's not good for the game and not good for them because it teaches them bad developpement habits.

>> No.50127597

>>50126412
It's not a kusoge because they made a mistake. It's a kusoge because of how they made it. The bugs just contribute to that perception.
Also kusoge is not an insult in the fgc. Chill.

>> No.50128151

Ok so for the third day in a row my ping when playing with others is 300+
Every single other game and page loads just fine, it's just Idol Showdown having this issue.
Has this happened to anyone else?

>> No.50128473

>>50108234
HOW CAN I DO IT OUTSIDE OF GETTING GOOD
I GOT RNG'D BY SHIT ITEMS
Any ones who are good?
I'm playing Ayame btw

>> No.50129202

>>50128473
Always pick healing snacks. You want a full lineup of 3 heals. Do some red fights early so you can get good items early. I don't think you should take Error items, at your level. Even though AO is very useful.
Try to hold on your money until you can use it to buy a blue item at Mumei's shop.
But even with all that you still need to know how to play... Don't hesitate to lame it out. You still win by the clock if you have more life.
With all that being said the easiest solution might just be to switch from Ayame to an IP zoner like Botan or even Aki if you're not too bad with her

>> No.50129997

>>50127461
You're the one whose moronic by trying to make a big deal out of this beta shit. "Effort to build a team" it's a fucking free game you retard, they're not building shit from what's essentially a slapped together passion project from volunteer work consisting of Twitter artists more or less. Beta is nothing more than an additional source while they still go at this like they were prior you braindead retarded. The only one talking out of your ass is you, because you're trying to speak for thousands of people when the reception is pretty clearly positive for the beta and admittance of mistakes.
>No one cares
And no one cares that your personal whining when you haven't even looked into it properly since you were focused on playing Street Fighter 6 you pretentious filthy dickheaded piece of shit.

>> No.50130097

>>50129997
*from your personal whining. No one is thinking of this or any "half assed patches" as a negative for the game. The standard drastically changes when this is given for free you dipshit. You are delusional to try and speak for the players. Especially the idea of "encouraging bad habits" when they literally acknowledged that the fucked up patched was an issue, it's the entire reason they reached out with differing solutions with the beta branch being one of them. Get a grip on reality, stupid fuck.

>> No.50131991

My dad works at nintendo i know a lot about game development

>> No.50132241

>>50128151
This is still a kusoge so might as well install and unistall

>> No.50133559

>>50130097
Now listen to me you monomaniac nigger. The peanut in your skull that serves you as an excuse for a brain might not be able to understand that but: even if it's free it doesn't mean you can't tell anything if the product is shit or if the dev team is fumbling. You abberant piece of human garbage. You have with Holocure the very exemple of a good FREE hololive game developpement cycle. They're taking they're time, they're testing properly, they built a team and they do it for FUCKING FREE MOTHERFUCKER.
They fucked up too at times but fucking up is part of learning that was never my problem. The problem is that the model the IS devs chose is inherently bad. Them acknowledging they fumbled is a good thing BUT they still fucked up 3 times and made the same mistake because the format they chose for patches is just bad. This is why the whole beta thing is unecessary to begin with. You're too stupid to see the vision but you should think on the long term for both the game and the dev team. IS in this current is like Melty Blood vanilla, which was a shitty broken game. It took a whole ass 3 years before it became somewhat good. It was the same for every doujin games out there like Touhou Hisoutensoku or EFZ. In case you don't realize retarded newfag: IS is the equivalent of a doujin fighting game in the modern days.
Listening to bitch ass hype monkeys like you that want to have "content" pumped into their adhd riddled dirty ass will be a detriment for the game in the long run. It will just burn out the devs sooner when there is no need to rush at all. The devs made a good fondation for the game they should learn to relax and make content at their own pace.
Now shut the fuck up and go wipe the disgusting dorito dust from your controller. You dirty bitch ass nigga

>> No.50134034

>>50123117
>A wvt
>Luna
>Aki ( Luna cosplay)
>Chun Li, I always pick the cutest one for the psychological advantage of getting people get kicked out by a loli. Thats why i picked sofitia in soul calibur too and milenna in MK. The advantage is useless in anime fighters because they are all cute girls however.

>> No.50134131

>>50133559
I heard a lot of people in this very thread complaining about holocure development

>> No.50134876

>>50134131
You got to be more specific on what the complaints were about buddy. Because on the points I mentionned they're doing it right

>> No.50135516

The way I see it, I’m okay with them quickly patching things at the start. I mean, there’s quite a few things that could use changes including bugs and questionable design choices like how armor works currently. But keeping up a quick patch cycle isn’t sustainable. After all, the meta does have to settle at some point and there’s bound to be imbalance no matter what. Simply taking care of the most egregious design choices at the start and then letting everything settle in while they work on a new character would be better. There are plenty of things that could be changed and are easy to make less stupid. There are others that will take a longer look at how the game works to truly assess how to alter it without creating an imbalance that shifts things the other way. They should focus on glaring, but easy to change stuff over things that have a less obvious solution at the start.

>> No.50135786

>>50133559
Earth to dumbass, nobody gives a shit except for your stupid ass writing essays over a beta process that's serving as an answer to their small numbers and all the issues. It gives more eyes and hand because if you haven't noticed, playtesting is objectively a good thing and lots of people have noticed and provided feedback on things that the devs couldn't have noticed. Not even with the 2-3 years of development you fucking retard.
>Holocure
Disingenuous. And nothing's burning out the devs retard, they made a set schedule for this you deluded piece of garbage.
>Now shut the fuck up
Make me, you trashheap of a human being. Oh wait, you can't. You will remain the only one crying so piss off to your Street Fighter 6 beta rather than trying to pretend you know what you're talking about. You can't speak for the devs or the fans you dumbass motherfucker and the widely received praise in response to the beta testing approach alongside their general bug fixing approach proves this.

>> No.50135979

>>50135786
Your crying of "ohhhh the beta will make it a badly received kusoge for wider reception!!!11" when that not only didn't happen but this entire beta process is to specifically STOP and further provide quality checks for it. They can't and won't make a team for "bug fixing" because that's not how reality works dipshit. Idol Showdown has a smaller team with the big content consisting entirely of volunteer work. Holocure is a completely different game and shows how retarded and delusional you are to compare it to a game that's not even a fighter nor has a remotely similar dev team.
>>50135516
Which is what they're doing. It's why they didn't touch the character balancing yet. They were letting that sit for a minute while still keeping a consistent-ish schedule.

>> No.50136398

>>50135979
I mainly worry because they could keep continuing with the weekly patches as they said. I mean, they did recently change the assists, and most of the changes weren’t bad. I’m hoping they don’t try to make some big, sweeping change to a lot of the mechanics though, since that’s the part tripping them up, like the constant burst changes. On top of that, I’m worried they could touch unintentional stuff that doesn’t hurt the game in any way. Stuff like Coco’s weird glide glitch or combos into grabs.

>> No.50136483

>>50136398
That's something they confirmed to be a longer term process. They aren't trying to rush that nor the character changes out. The devs want to keep what makes characters want while still keeping it somewhat fair.

>> No.50136542

>>50136483
*what makes the characters fun
They don't plan on gutting anyone especially not Aki. And devs have gone on record to keep some of the fun glitches (a dev saw a funny Black Hole Glitch and want to keep it)

>> No.50136685

ayame will never have her hitboxes in the wiki sadfrog,jpg

>> No.50137416

>>50136685
be the change you want to see in the world

>> No.50137447

>>50137416
I don't know how otherwise I'd have done it already

>> No.50137480

>>50137447
how do people figure those out anyway

>> No.50137601

I hate Ayame
I hate Botan
I hate Aki
Nerf them all.
simple as.

>> No.50137711

>>50137601
>Hating Honest Ayame, the character balanced on a razor's edge.

>> No.50138236

>>50135979
> they made a set schedule for this
I'd like to see your source for this "schedule" you schizo leproid. And it really doesn't matter, if the schedule is retard
>the widely received praise in response to the beta testing approach alongside their general bug fixing approach proves this.
From whom? The 400 people that are left on the game? You do realize that the "positive reception" is from Holo fans that already left the game but still like everything Holo related on their feed. This is why the tweets that talk about the beta as triple the amount of likes compared to actual players of the game. This isn't a good metric by any mean, you dumbass clown.
>ohhhh the beta will make it a badly received kusoge for wider reception!!!11"
I never say that stop putting words in my mouth, mongoloid. You have the reading comprehension of a two years old. The game is a kusoge because it plays like a kusoge. It will stay that way regardless of what the devs do.
>the big content consisting entirely of volunteer work
Don't tell me you think the people that are making Holocure are getting paid? You pathetic buffon. The devs made the decision to keep their own team small, to have only 2 QA people and then release the game full of bug.
>delusional you are to compare it to a game that's not even a fighter
>Conveniently ignores the one to one doujin fighting games with similar small teams I mentionned
You're not such a newfag that you don't know at all what those are, right Anon?
>Which is what they're doing. It's why they didn't touch the character balancing yet.
It's not at all what they're doing you pathetic lying piece of horse feces. Just in the last patch they were adding things like input rebinding and even tweaking single player content. Things that should have been there since done since the beginning or added as qol later on. This isn't the start anymore, it's just their patch cycle. And they were literally balancing collabs in that patch you dunce donkey goose. How can you even pretend you know what you're talking about if you're that oblivious about the actual changes??
Also stop cutting your replies in half.
The Anon you replied to gets it and was 100% right.
Also stop cutting your replies in half you look so stupid when you do that. You're writing the same essays as me and everybody knows it. Don't be a pussy, have some dignity and don't try to hide it with some bitch tech.

>> No.50138272

>>50138236
no, it's time to accept that I'm right and you're wrong.

>> No.50138313

>>50136483
>>50136542
I really hope your retarded ass isn't a dev, otherwise the game is doomed

>> No.50138420

>>50138272
>Ran out of arguments
I accept your relinquishment

>> No.50138976

>>50138236
I am not a schizo! Their twitter literally said they'll release a patch of changes every weekend. And it does matter, as they went from a whole bunch of patches at once to a weekly patch. That's a good and reasonable pace. Especially when they aren't rushing patches, them fucking one up isn't emblematic of everything they do. It's literally their first game
>That already left the game
delusion, and even if that's the case, that's still 400 more people than you. You are the only one complaining and you're under some massive cope to resort to "muh players" as if the beta had any negative impact (it didn't)
>Kusoge
So stop trying to use it as a negative that'll gene when the bugs are accepted and it has generous reception for a free game. By default it has more wiggle room and comparing it to Holocure is disingenuous, they aren't even the same genre and Holocure will 100% receive the same generous reception regardless of any inevitable bugs or blatantly being inferior to big name games. Because free games are inherently at a disadvantage.
>doujin fighting game
Irrelevant, different dev team
>Not at all
Literally what they're doing you dumbass bitch. Bitching about things that should've been at launch is dishonest, it's a free game that had more ambition and content than some triple A fighters. "Collabs" which is a smaller balance change that literally came after 2-3 weeks with them literally saying that characters and super big changes come at a later date. Not only that, but a lot of the balance changes were just tweaking minor shit in code, they didn't revamp or rework any assists so it's not some big change like you're arguing for dipshit. You failed to change my point that the bigger changes have been left to sit. They literally intentionally chose to not to start nerfing characters like Aki. You clearly don't know what you're talking about. You haven't followed what the devs have been saying and what they communicated clearly. They said big changes come at a later date, they aren't rushing it in dumbass. You're just plain wrong to claim that.

I'm not cutting them in half, dipshit. It's an add-on from me writing.

>> No.50139032

>>50138420
Nope, you're just wrong and retarded, dumbass.
>>50138313
and thankfully they aren't listening to morons like you. Especially when you're the only one pointlessly bitching over a beta process that everyone else praised.

>> No.50139081

>>50138976
*as a negative that'll turn people away

>> No.50139110
File: 99 KB, 1280x720, 1678153101140517.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50139110

Devs if you are reading this convo remember to add luna

>> No.50139764

>>50138976
>And it does matter, as they went from a whole bunch of patches at once to a weekly patch. That's a good and reasonable pace
Holy copium. It's not. They are still rushing things. They did improve but that rythm is garbage. Nobody, from triple A studio to small indie teams uses it for a reason and they'll realize it soon toi just like they realized releasing a bunch of patches at once was a bad idea.
of my only complaint about the beta was that it was unecessary when they could've picked a reasonable patching cycle.
Kusoge is NOT a negative you retard. I love the game just like I love HnK. Both are kusoge and that word has been used like that in the fgc for a while. Where the fuck do you come from if you don't know that.
I understood that you don't know what doujin fighting games are, don't worry.
From
>They aren't touching balance yet!
To
>"Collabs" which is a smaller balance change that literally came after 2-3
Nice moving goalposts Anon.

>> No.50140240

>>50139764
Nope, I'm copium free. The rhythm isn't garbage with what they're putting in each patch, as a lot of the patches and fixes worked. This was the only case of it REALLY struggling and they're implementing ways to avoid repeating that again. Like having more playtesters from the wider audience than trying to make the tiny dev team do it. "Could've picked" except doing this literally allows them to extend a branch for more people to provide feedback and playtest for them. Because if you haven't noticed they aren't making money to hire a team much less gather a bunch of playtesters that can actually experiment with this game at a mid to high level. The beta was not unnecessary, you're nitpicking something you haven't looked into nor understand.
>It's not a bad thing
Then don't say shit like "Now everybody deemed the game to be a kusoge it's too late to do anything about that." retard, it's a free game so it got leeway from being a little jank rather than framing it as something they're "too late to change" as if it was ever getting out of that status to begin with.
>Don't know
Nope, it's an irrelevant dishonest comparison just like your retarded attempt at comparing this to Holocure, a game not even in the same genre nor made by any remotely similar people.
>Goalposts
I literally said they aren't making massive changes nor did they touch the characters yet. Which they objectively haven't. Collabs was an irrelevant point as they barely changed shit with the collabs too, it was completely minor, further supporting my point that they're taking their time with the big stuff. They didn't rework or add any new collabs so your point is rubbish.

>> No.50140425

>>50139110
nah there is only 4 squares left the ones coming are peko ina mori and gura trust me my dad is the dev

>> No.50140529
File: 172 KB, 428x406, cocomu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50140529

Bored and made this. May not be accurate at the highest level but it's how I currently feel about fighting these characters.

>> No.50140754

>>50140240
Yeah sure making Marine 3 bars instead of is a just a minot change that will not have an impact in Marine's usefulness AT ALL. Retard.
Melty Blood is a fighting game that started in the exact same condition you fucking newfag. Their original team was even smaller than Bestos' and the game was free. If you're saying that is "dishonest and irrelevant", you're basically saying IS is so special and unique it can't be compared to any other game. Which is intellectually dishonest.
Why are you so obsesed with the game being free absolving it from any default?
Yes we get it it's free and the game is good. The dev are still fumbling hard

>> No.50141518

>>50140754
Which amounted to a minor change in code, retard. That's literally Marine's only change btw so thanks for proving my point! An extra slapped in bar to be in-line with other strong assists... Oh the horror. Especially when this change happened THREE WEEKS after launch! For the changes we got that's perfectly fucking fair and you're yanking my chain to say otherwise.
Hell, if you've played fighting games before you'd know that the playable characters are the meat and bones for a meta, not the fucking assists. And as that other anon said, he wanted the meta to sit a bit. Which is what happened, the devs are currently climbing the mountain of making the chars more fair without gutting them, something a lot of triple A fighting games struggle with and sometimes fail to execute. They didn't rush out big character changes nor super big changes that'd require time. The collab shit and a lot of these changes amount to bug fixes and are minor in comparison and you damn well know it!
>Melty Blood
kek, invalid argument. Melty Blood was made by devs that have game experience if you bothered to do your fucking research. Besto devs have blatantly said this is their first game... ever and is built on the foundation of being fighting games nerds not that they have actual experience making games. This game is literally upheld by volunteer work from numerous twitter artists. This game is amateur as fuck that managed to form a miracle by being fun and surprisingly content rich.
>Absolving it
Anon. It's literally free, zero money means zero capability of expanding and you should know this. Making dedicated teams come out of a check and they already made this game at a financial loss. Free = Lowered Standards by default. Even some of the more critical FGC players that don't give a fuck about Vtubers played this and praised it for being fun FOR A FREE GAME. Being free always has more leeway by default. You should know this shit by default, games that you spend from your wallet by a corporation deserves the hardest of scrutinizing. But a game that's somehow fun AND free with no finial returns is fucking insane. They aren't fumbling anything since it still manages to be fun, stable, and consistent. With the changes not being all that rushed. And any that were got rolled back with a sincere apology and a clear effort to stop that from happening again.

>> No.50142289

>>50140529
anyone has the pixelated tiermaker? That could be added to the op as well

Also how do you feel about Coco over all, is it truly UP

>> No.50142962

>>50141518
Nah this man gotta to be a dev. No random retard knows it's just changing an int in the code. That's why you whine so much about the game behind free. Nigga you chose to do free labor that ain't my problem. And holy fuck now it makes so much sense. You are a dev that got a bit too high on praises from the hugbox to the point your ego inflated and can't take criticism.
Just to adress some of your points retard dev: nobody was talking about giving more work charge for the devs. You gives a fuck that Anon was talking about changes that influence the game. Assists are primordial in that game you scrub, they act more than just that collabs also act as a come back mechanic. From 2 bars to 3 is a huge change. Only a dev could be such a scrub. I truly hope you don't work on the game design retard dev.
For Melty I took Melty because it was the exemple of french bread's first venture and one of the first doujin they didn't sold.
But if you want the very first game they made as Watanabe Seisakujo, the Queen of Heart works. Narita baiscally made that game with a few friends in his room but they did sold it at comiket. Even for the sequel they were barely 10 people working on the games. But now you dumbass obviously gonna Say " they sold the game it doesn't count" So fuck you retardev

>> No.50143451

>>50142289
I'd say in her current state, Coco is almost fine. I wouldn't call her good, but she has almost every tool she needs and can win any matchup, even Sora who is really bad for her. The main issue is that a lot of the moves she wants to armor, she can't. Trying to armor through grenades, notes and certain other projectiles is a death sentence because you get punished for trying. Being able to armor through stuff like Muki and A-chan with a normal is interesting but comes up more in certain pressure situations rather than neutral. One other flaw she has that isn't talked about much is her inability to get chip wins. Technically, she can through fire breath, but the move is duckable by all of the cast which hurts a ton. The lack of chip kind of sucks considering how good chip damage is in this game. But overall, while she's on the lower end of the cast, she's in a fine spot. The only thing I'd really change so far is fixing armor so she doesn't get stopped in place by specific projectiles. Changing anything else I'm a lot less sure of because of how easily she can swing momentum. Maybe improve 22H since it's a pretty bad use of 1 bar.

>> No.50143542
File: 908 KB, 1099x607, 1665325505245020.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50143542

>>50142962
>Nah this man gotta to be a dev
Developers I know your /here/ add a raid BOSS mode, add a handicap mode, add Luna, add watamelon as an apocalypsis styled last boss, add pregnant Towa, add lami cosplays to all characters so they can /become/, add Okayu and reference the mogu yatch as a meme, add a Shimada skin to Okayu, add Coyo, add a Rie skin to Coco, add the "classically romantic" rap to Mori stage, ask rratman to become an announcer, add a Holofight Z stage, add Anya and give her unlimited blade works, never nerf Aki cause that's my main now!

>> No.50143640

>>50143451
I see, but then again this game is still a babby

>> No.50144805

>>50143542
>Lamy

Ok listen up for the raid boss mode You need to beat every character with a Lami cosplay and if you win you get a lami skin
For botan who already has one she gets a lami voice pack plus an even Lamier pixel art, making her become a second grade one. As time goes by everyone gets further and further into lami territory until lami herself is released and characters can just transform into her with an item

>> No.50146630
File: 54 KB, 646x1010, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50146630

FUCK. I fucking went full autism mode on writing up the guide about a fucking pajeet site. God dammit I'm so fucking retarded but I have to finish what I started because I spent so much time on this shit. I really hope this wall of text isn't scaring you, anons, because I'm trying my best to help you host a /fig/ tourney without using the dreaded discord.

>> No.50146756
File: 110 KB, 373x324, 1662746325756112.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50146756

>>50146630
damn son that's a lot of effort
I will try to read it at least I think I can use it in my work

>> No.50147152

>>50146756
Yep, a retarded amount of effort. I shouldn't be doing this, but like I said, I have to finish what I started. Even if I'm told not to for whatever reason, I'm doing it because I want to, not because I have to.

>> No.50147724

>>50137601
>I hate Ayame
This was myself until I actually tried playing the character and Holy Fuck! I'd never felt so fuckin frustrated in all my hours in. Playing this character OPTIMALLY felt way too fuckin demanding for what is just decent rewards so you have to start all over which would be fine if the holy trifecta of BULLSHIT weren't still running around UNTOUCHED!! I should have just switched to Botan instead

>> No.50147751

>>50142962
>Makes an argument and an estimation on how little they changed it especially when there's other three bar assists they can slap the code onto
>"Y-You're just a dev!"
holy mother of cope, this is how you handle anyone that disagrees with you? Pathetic.
>assists are primordial
and they were barely changed, only minorly tweaked after again, THREE WEEKS and multiple tourneys happened you fucking nitwit.
>Melty
Still a garbage example and shows your lack of self awareness. Not their first game and they had more resources, experience, and funding in general. Idol Showdown very clearly didn't with how rough around the edges it is. But fuck you too dickhead.

>> No.50147777
File: 681 KB, 691x636, 1676130497876254.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50147777

>>50147152
you should not /become/ this thread divegrass manager

>> No.50147939

>>50147751
Also Marine isn't nearly as huge of a change as other shit is. It was proven to be powerful with it being the most used assist by a landslide. Numerous people were pointing out that her being two bar while others are three is lopsided. But only a dumbass like you would try and blow a simple change out of proportion. Nor does it change the fact that it isn't a bunch of rushed work as that's Marine's only change after 3 weeks. To make a big deal out of it shows you're moving the goalposts and reeks of you searching for a gacha moment. The characters, the main meat, weren't changed yet and that's a fact you failed to deny. The meta was still left to sit for these characters.

>> No.50147988

>>50147751
>Still ignoring half the shit I said
Still a huge faggot
But anyways retardev now that we know you're a dev why didn't you put a rank mode in the game? That could've actually saved the game from the DNF duel ass loss of playerbase the game is having right now. This game deserved better and you fucked up hard, retardev

>> No.50148050
File: 92 KB, 658x443, yubi[all].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50148050

Alrighty lads, post your Ayame memes. I need a new Steam avatar to show off in lobbies.
While at it, is picrel good enough for the wiki?

>> No.50148320

>>50147988
Except I did, your points are just dogshit. You saying "more work charge" is a trash point too. You complained about rushed patches, but there's nothing in there that's all too deep nor is there a bunch of work TO be rushed to begin with. They didn't rush out making huge changes to the characters nor the general game systems they got from feedback. If we were getting that already then your complaints about rushing shit out would make logical sense.

I'm not a dev, why do you resort to shitposting when you no longer have an argument? And ranked isn't getting in, devs confirmed that required running servers which they don't have money for, because again, it's a free game. Use your common sense, they can't get the money to expand upon it as I said prior. But keep being a dishonest dumbass shitposter faggot.

>> No.50148685

>>50148320
Retardev you can't keep saying "the game is free" and think it will matter in the end. If nobody plays the game anymore it doesn't matter if it was free, paid or whatever. Unfortunately the game at the moment is following the same exact path Dnf duel did.
So don't be surprise if the game hits an all time low in between actual content updates, retardev. The only hope for the game would be if the dlc release patch is big enough and if the character you picked are popular enough.

>> No.50148699
File: 44 KB, 735x368, 1664732692974194.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50148699

>>50148050
>Ayame meme
Got you covered there is no way you can top this
>pic
Looks pretty good

>> No.50148907

>>50148685
>Still resorts to retarddev shitpost
>Can't provide a counterargument
I accept your concession.

>> No.50149005

>>50148907
Retardev you didn't answer my questions. Why are you letting the game die?

>> No.50149006

>>50147939
Out of all the assist changes, the one I wasn't a fan of was Kiara's change. I get they wanted to make her call-in better by adding the explosion for combos, but it's still pretty awkward to insert into a combo and lost being fullscreen for it. And it's strictly worse than other combo based assists. But we may be stuck with this for now.

>> No.50149078

>>50149006
Maybe the labrats will find something to cook with Kiara's change? Who knows, they'll probably revert it if it's that bad.

>> No.50149126

>>50149005
I can't believe this is what your argument devolved to. Guess it was only a matter of time with how much you resorted to cherrypicking and conveniently ignoring a lot of my points.

>> No.50149395

>>50149078
The thing is, reverting it would suck too. I dunno, it's not very good in either form. The main issue is how bad the multi-hits are. They don't juggle, they combo into each other extremely poorly, and it can't combo in the corner because she explodes too late. So between the two, the earlier version is better for using as a shield to get through projectiles, the later version is better for combos but you can't follow as well.

>> No.50149453
File: 522 KB, 719x825, 1685060568397.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50149453

>>50148699
>there is no way
Don't be so sure now, anon-kun... Besides, I don't see that fitting the avatar dimensions properly.

>> No.50149458

>>50149395
Shiiit, Kiara just needs more help, I guess? Multihits in general within Idol Showdown are shaky.

>> No.50149488

>>50149126
Retardev you were arguing in bad faith the whole time. Ignoring my points and quoting me incorrectly because you have the reading comprehension of a blind dog.
I didn't understand why you were so biased retardev. You kept bringing shit like "it's free", "it was praised", "they're doing everything right". Like what kind of outsider takes those parameters into consideration just to use them as shield for any form for criticism. So you're either the biggest dickridder there is in that thread or you're a dev yourself, retardev. So pick whichever you like the most retardev

>> No.50149699

>>50149488
>"nooo YOU were ignoring MY points!"
The only arguing out of bad faith is you. You showed a clear lack of knowledge on what's going on. Especially when you were the one that started dropping more and more points, not me. Even now you're being disingenuous, get a grip on reality and soothe your weird little hateboner already.

>> No.50149820
File: 160 KB, 834x1080, Comboar Bureika '23 Starts Tomo-Today!!.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50149820

>Mystery Tournament
There's NO way riiight...?

>> No.50149824

>>50149458
I'd say besides that, one other problem I didn't mention is Roboco. Kiara is supposed to be anti-projectile. Her off-collab is good for that. But her call-in is strictly inferior to Roboco if you want to blow through projectiles. If you see a projectile being thrown, you can just Roboco beam and get a big punish on reaction. And she has the benefit of missiles for non-projectile matchups so her off-collab always contributes. Kiara has her uses but she just feels way too far into the counter a specific character niche.

>> No.50150302

>>50149820
I have no idea what this means

>> No.50150362

>>50149699
>hateboner
See retardev this is what betrayed you. I didn't say anything negative about the game itself. In fact in our conversation I even praised it saying "I love the game", "it's a good game". All I did was criticising the devs direction they were taking for the game developpement.
Yet you still associate me having a "hate boner" here, why would you take it so personally? After all my initial critic was just: "the patch betas are unecessary". At first I thought you were just an autistic dickrider. But the more you wrote in that thread the more you seemed to have some "insight" about the internal developpement, retardev. You were talking about a "schedule" but all they did was to say on twitter they would release patchs weekly, retardev. You weren't careful enough, retardev. We also know that some devs are actually /here/. Therefore the most logical explanation for you taking my criticism on the devs so personally was you being one

>> No.50150607
File: 547 KB, 1920x1080, 1678314641926414.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50150607

I'm actually reading the convo keep going

>> No.50151059

>>50150362
What insight? It's a pretty easy guess that it didn't take much to code if they pushed it out on their weekly release. And literally the only thing they changed was a single attribute for a collab. Using the word schedule as a clue is retarded, releasing it every week IS a scheduled release.
>Criticism so personally
Ah yes, it's the criticism not the fuck ton of insults we threw at each other nor me finding your mental gymnastic tier arguments retarded. It must be the sheer idea of your criticism even though your critical arguments fundamentally fall apart. Especially when you stop acknowledging certain points that damage your narrative you tried to use new points against me.

>> No.50151416

>>50151059
HAHAHA it's so cute trying to see you cover your tracks retardev. Anybody that actually wouldn't be a dev wouldn't give a flying fuck being mistaken as one.
That fact only is enough to confirm I was right

>> No.50152059

best thread we had in a while

>> No.50152381

>>50110630
What the hell is that meter and superchat build up? Isn't that disgusting?

>> No.50153487

>>50151416
>Not caring to shitpost back to your shitposting must mean I'm a dev
Why are you like this?

>> No.50154203

bitches will really spend hours of their day arguing about theoretical patches in a video game

>> No.50154598

>>50150302
combo breaker schedule. Which is this weekend from what I can tell

>> No.50154608

I don't think IDS is the kinda of Holo fighter that should be considered the would be all game holo fighter. I think it's ideas aren't executed that well and another could take the mantel to make something better

>> No.50154936

>>50154598
yeah what is a combo breaker
i am new to fightan

>> No.50155019

>>50143542
isn't rratman always in /hlgg/? you gotta go ask about him there, he's a funny guy I can see him voicing something for a fangame

>> No.50155190

>>50154936
https://combobreaker.org/
It's a huge tournament event for fighting games, thinking anime con but people come to play games. Some major leagues(?) also partake in this such as the capcom cup and tekken world tour which are usually the closing Top 8s at these sort of events amongst others. Also look up things like EVO or CEO which also fall under this

>> No.50155326

>>50155019
Is he still active? havent seen him in a while, I left hlgg to not return years ago

>> No.50157299

>>50155190
Thats pretty cool
A lot of fgc are into vtubers it seems

>> No.50157490
File: 762 KB, 1920x1080, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50157490

I'M GONNA DO IT BROS
I HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS CLOSE

>> No.50157715

>>50157490
Oh yeah, that reminds me there's a glitch they still haven't fixed. It involves garlic and that consumable that gives you infinite superchat. You can abuse that super hard to get infinite superchat meter for free, no consumable used at all.

>> No.50157801

>>50157490
havent got past act 2

>> No.50158309
File: 851 KB, 1920x1080, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50158309

>>50157715
>>50157801
AAAAAAAA

>> No.50158378
File: 295 KB, 1920x1080, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50158378

>>50158309
YES

>> No.50158516
File: 432 KB, 640x905, 1682391305975606.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50158516

>>50158378
YOU DID IT ANON!!!!

>> No.50158694
File: 568 KB, 1920x1080, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50158694

>>50158516
best stage
why does it look like Tekken
do not post the doge pls...

>> No.50159066

>>50158694
It's tekken all the way down with this game

>> No.50163723

Nejiri urabump

>> No.50163884

>>50163723
So, do you have any opinion on the dev debate? That seems to start
conversations around here.
Only place on the interne where you can call chuubas and devs faggots to their face and get away with it

>> No.50164524
File: 548 KB, 1500x1000, 1668384942441203.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50164524

Slow night, what are you watching?
Have you done any reps?
>>50027520
i did mine for that day so I get to play >>50158701
see?

>> No.50164667

what's the odd of dev adding nijisanji character to IS? I mean it's not exactly titled Hololive showdown.

>> No.50164747

>>50164667
none

>> No.50164784

>>50164667
I would not say zero, but did anyone on the dev team even have a niji oshi mark?

>> No.50164832

>>50164667
The most you'll have are color references. They would also need permission to do it because of Steams rules about not owning the IP of your games, so while it's clear that Cover gave the ok there's no guarantee Anycolor would do the same.

>> No.50164948

>>50164832
why would anykara refuse free advertising?

>> No.50165265

>>50164948
It's Anycolor we're talking about.

>> No.50166355

>>50054271
How can Sora be good if 90% of her players are garbage including me?

>> No.50166365

>>50163884
Not really, skipped most of it when it devolved to name calling. There's no right or wrong in what kind of development plan devs can choose to take since they all have their pros and cons anyway, all that matters is having a team competent enough to follow through with it.

>>50164832
>anycolor
>only gets colors
Heh

>> No.50166812

>>50166355
the real good was in your heart all along?

>> No.50168610

Will there be an Idol Showdown tournament at Combobreaker?

>> No.50168629

>>50168610
I'm sure there'll be some bathroom setups.

>> No.50168690

>>50168629
Why did you reply so fast? kimochi warui...
Also do you think it'll be streamed?

>> No.50169116

>>50168629
Imagine getting Shimada sloppy blow job in a tournament venue bathroom stall...

>> No.50169170

>>50168690
Pretty sure only main games are streamed unless it's someone's personal setup. Usually there's someone streaming from a salty suite but that's up to the people there.

>> No.50169470

>>50169116
Only viewer sex on official tourneys

>> No.50169825
File: 3.88 MB, 2839x2366, 1664863353035375.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50169825

I'm adding moneybird to the op
Anything else you want in?

>> No.50170416
File: 3.86 MB, 4096x3351, 1672024397831405.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
50170416

>>50169825
Nothing? then bread

>>50170308
>>50170308
>>50170308
>>50170308

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action