/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Whore
>GRRRRRR :@
Whore, JP
>kawaii chuu~ =D

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
No one watches matsuri tho. She literally became bottom 5 HoloJPs in terms of ccv because of this shit. Luna unironically mogs her now, imagine predicting that in the past lmao

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>>49941248
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
>matsuri

[Anonymous No.]

I think it's fine in any language.

[Anonymous No.]

Whore
>GRRRRRR :@
Whore, JP
>

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
Yes, now bend over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
>matsuri
she got nothing left to lose because of "stuff", even she is aware of it as she said on RUST stream, so expect more of these.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
You must be really desperate to pretend anyone likes Matsuri rumao

[Anonymous No.]

No one but hardcore matsurisus defend or even care about Matsuri. Find better bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
>whore
>jp
Japanese women by definition cannot be whores. Even a japanese prostitute wouldn't be considered a whore the way a western club girl is.

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>>49941248
unironically yes, keep seething

[Anonymous No.]

>kamito
based retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
I fapped to her years ago, I fap to her now

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
Maybe Matsuri wasn't the best choice here OP

[Anonymous No.]

/vt/ is for sinophobic misogynists, where do you think you are

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>>49941385
Play the electone Nanora~

[Anonymous No.]

>People hate me so I'm just going to keep doing what people hate me for and hope something somehow changes for the better.

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Matsuri and Towa are lost cases, only their own small pool of retards haven't given up on them. OP is 3+ years late to the party

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>>49944141
This.

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>>49941248
Matsuri have it worse than anyone else what rae you saying. She is last stage male collabing illness : nobody care about her anymore. She is forgotten, a litteraly who in hololive. And it's the reason why collabing with m*les is unironicaly bad. And INB4 "at least she doesn't have a toxic fanbase" she have worse : a dead fanbase.

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>>49941385
Did she drop off that hard? Jesas

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>>49944141
The only people who watch Matsuri are the ones who are essentially in a battle royale to become her single last viewer so she will marry them

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In japan, a whore has a body count of 10, in the west a normal girl has a healthy sex life and at least a body count of 40 (Not counting the amount of blowjobs to random guys, only those she had sex with)

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>>49941248
Counterpoint
Laplus
>GRRRRRRR :@

[Anonymous No.]

oh, it's this thread again

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone who supports this kind of behavior is a fucking clown

[Anonymous No.]

Are you retarded? Matsuri struggles to break 2k most days.

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>>49941385
why is luna always used as a measurement of bottom tier

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>>49941385
she's probably bottom 3 by now

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>>49941385
oof, even getting mogged by michaelcat

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>>49941248
Why are we pretending Matsuri doesn't have more than her fair share of antis?

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>>49941248
This but unironically

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>>49946304
people some shitters like aki are so unpopular we don't even remember their names

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She not going to be in hololive for much longer, she already prepared for it and is dragging 774's wat with her.
She could leave tomorrow and no one in hololive would give a shit, in fact they'll probably celebrate it. I know luna would.

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>>49941385
Cope

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>>49944141
Towa is not only popular but also organizes a lot for Hololive events and is constantly in collabs. Matsuri is nowhere near in the same league.

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>>49941385
this, people assume that a JP existing and at least 1 (one) fan in the West liking her = she's a mega popular super star that is completely free from consequences. this is constructed by people who understand fucking nothing about holoJP attempting to use it to prove some bias.

actually the decline of Matuli is probably one of the biggest if not the biggest in all of Hololive, or at least holoJP. thing is it's not just her coomerbaiting but also just being a menhera, a bad friend to other holos, spamming apex/male collabs all the time etc. just because Cover doesn't fire girls for doing things that turn off a lot of fans =/= they're in roughly the same status/positions as the top JPs too. absolutely not.

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>>49953845
We're outnumbered by newfags who came in from EN and never even watched JPs. Homobeggars too. Not surprising they don't know what the fuck they are talking about and assume Matsuri is still popular.

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>>49953845
also to add to myself, there is an inherent disconnect between east vs west where western fans don't really know a lot of details or deeper assessment of these chuubas and just see cute clips of them and like those. they're shown cherrypicked moments spread out over years, they don't watch these girls daily typically. so even if someone tries to let them know "fyi matsuri is kind of a shithead" they just go "nnooo that can't be, I saw this clip of her saying she's god isn't that funny? there's nothing wrong with that you're just a hater anti" and only envision JPs in the little shoebox caricature versions they're fed.

so you might easily find people on like, reddit or twitter who still think of matsuri very similar to how JPs thought of her like.. 3 years ago, when she was one of the absolute main-girl pillars of Holo. but, they're not caught up to speed on modern matsuri and why she's not remotely as big as she used to be. after all that's not good clip material so they never see/learn about it. funny thing is JP fans do the exact fucking same years-behind-on-knowledge + flanderization with the ENs too - that's just what language barrier does.

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>>49954105
It's funny cause there are literally translated clips of Matsuri being a shithead though.

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>>49946304
she was like the bottom 3 in whole holo back in early gen 4 era, the baby gimmick didn't work and she didn't offer much outside of it. later matsuri helped her with collabs and stuff but their relationship broke in the end

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>>49941248
sasuga homobeggar i saw this getting recommended earlier today on youtube and was surprised no one used this to shit post yet till now

also machuli is a well known menhera whore i'd be amazed if she still has unicorns . shes more on nijilevels of content. shame cause her yuribaiting content was good. what a fall from grace

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri just wants to join VSPO

[Anonymous No.]

She should join emoechi desu.

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly think only 3 anons /here/ would care if Macaroni graduated

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>>49953845
>>49953943
>>49941565
Is there no salvaging the Festival?

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>>49944141
I have no idea why your rent free dumbass brought up Towa but as >>49953159 said, she's basically popping off right now.

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>>49944282
Not just a dead one.
She's got that turbofag mod liger that scares away any fledgling livetranslator but does nothing himself
>livetranslation
yeah I fucking know, but it would help build a foreign fanbase that isn't aware of past taint and this guy sabotages even that last resort.
What a joke.

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>>49941248
That is a bad example, holy shit. Matsuri is the prime example of how the mighty can fall by constant yabbing. Youtube used to be filled with clips of her, nowadays she is on Roboco/Akirose tiers, except at least these two are likeable people even if unpopular.

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GRRRRRRRRRR

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>>49955016
Guys like Lyger scare me, he has been attached to Matsuri like a leech since I started watching Hololive in 2020 and has often gone turboschizo over other translators and clippers like it's his life mission to perfectly translate every word that comes out of Matsuri's mouth. I can't think of a world where he doesn't want to get in Matsuri's pants.

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>>49955222
That reminds me, isn't she the most hated vtuber in japan?

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>>49956028
sukikirai is a meme and shouldnt be trusted but shes definitely not the most hated vtuber, that's only about holos.

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>>49956028
It's a tight competition between her and Gundo, and one of the two is probably going to be forcefully graduated soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49955295
/pet

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>>49956028
>sukikirai
really anon.

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>>49956231
desu I like them both because they are hot. Both their rms and avatars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49943933
s/ob/il/

[Anonymous No.]

I kinda feel sorry for Matsuri.

[Anonymous No.]

I always thought Matsuri was immune to the whole "She streams with males therefore shes a slut" stigma because nobody gave a shit.

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>>49957483
it wasn't male collabs, she been doing those forever, but i can't talk about the real reasons because of /vt/ rules.

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>>49957483
>Nobody gave a shit
More like nobody watches her

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>>49941248
Hi sister
Today you learn a new term called "honorary Niji"
Another example, pink woman in the EN branch

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>>49954824
She COULD try being less of a slut since she DOES have good humor sense. She used to be a powerhouse in hololive.
Unfortunately japanese woman with menhera mindset folded 1000 times, she just can't help herself.

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>>49944141
Wait why Towa, she gets 8kCCV om average except for boring collabs that also include males she goes down 2.9 or something.

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>>49941248
and who the fuck doesnt call matsuri a whore?

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>>49958315
let's not forget the id zombie

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>>49941248
>matsuri still exist

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>>49946230
the homo clown actually do support this type of whorish behavior especially on married women

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>>49954465
pussies no longer satisty her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
Love Kamito. Big Oreapo fan

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>>49941248
Vei slur deflection thread

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>>49947483
rushia still making bank I see.
good for her

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>>49941248
what are you talking about, she got a lot of haters, she dont give a fk thats really the only difference.

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>>49954824
She's that kind of woman who makes sex her personality and hates people who think that's crass unironically, as a cope because she knows japanese chads don't want to date slutty mentally ill women. The 'sex cult' needs to drag other people down with it, because otherwise people grow up and realize they have to pay their mortgage and do their taxes and don't have time for highschool shit like 'omg girl did you hear who her new beau is?'. This is the kind of woman who tries to keep highschool going, forever.

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>>49942302
You are fucking insane

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>>49944141
>Towa
EOPchama...this js embarrassing

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>>49941385
but does she really care though? sounds like you're making an issue out of it

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>>49954824
The God has fallen
The only way to save her is to go back like how she used to 3 years ago
Man, I wonder if things would be different if that Hoshikawa arc didn't happened

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>>49976031
She doesn’t give a shit, she just streams what she want, with whoever the fuck she wants.

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>>49956028
>FBK
I can understand all the others since they have big yabs but wtf, nips hate Friend?

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>>49976031
>>49976406
She don't have a choice, "stuff" happened. She know she can't go back so she is just going to stream whatever she want until she decide to graduate.

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>>49976406
That should have been the norm, but those black souls in white couldn't let it be the case because it challenges their fragile ego.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49949810
You have to be smoking crack to actually think this is true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49977380
stop your homobeggars vs unicorns smoothbrain for a sec. even for normal youtubers, viewers want to see things they like, doing whatever you want without listening to audience input is just a recipe for decline.

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>>49977357
Either stop mentioning it or stop being a faggot and say what she did. This pathetic "oh umm some stuff h-happened with her... hehe" is embarrassing
>"T-the mods will ban me though!"
Don't care. If you're gonna bring it up just fucking say it instead of being a coward about it. Cause until you do there's zero reason to believe anything you say unless you show proof.

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>>49977357
>"Stuff happened"
>110% just referencing Za Hando incident
>Months old at this point and barely any meat on the rrat at all to begin with
Yeah I'm sure thats what's gonna make her graduate anon.

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>>49977995
i am not getting ban for you faggot dumb ass who too stupid to look into yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49978078
it is more than that EOP, i am not getting ban, research yourself.

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>>49944141
Towa makes up her loss of male viewer with more female fans that wants her twacock.
So which one is the one who lose anon?

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>>49978087
>>49978211
>"L-look it up yourself f-f-faggot!"
Okay so its Za hando or its made up gotcha.
>"N-no its totally real I just d-d-d-don't wanna get b-banned!"
Don't care. Don't act like a faggot by repeatedly bringing up "stuff" like one of those epic "le forbidden knowledge" losers you see under every clipfag video then.
>Also
Fuck off samefag

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>>49953845
>1 (one) fan in the West liking her
The one western liking her is also a TL gatekeeper, so much that one of a dedicated Suisei clipper/translator turned into a dedicated Holoenclipper after getting scolded by him in Discord

[Anonymous No.]

>>49975751
No its very logical, the internal mechanics at play are different. Japanese women sleeping around are simply a women exploring her sexuality, a western women sleeping arlund is just her being a hoe.

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>>49979844
>a women

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>>49956028
That would be Sio, god bless her soul.

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>>49978550
Everyone else is being a little bitch, so I'll tell you, anon.
>sexfriend yab
>helped Miko rape Pekora yab
>slapped Aqua in front of YAGOO yab
>pushed Aloe off building yab
>Roberu sextape yab
>molested Luna yab
>period soup yab
>nepotism yab

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>>49978968
you discordfags are the worst. no one outside of your little bubble full of bottomfeeders gives a fuck about you.

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>>49976135
What happened in that arc? Was it the one where she went full menhara and took a break right after?

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>>49981969
>menhara
I dont know why you retards keep misspelling this

[Anonymous No.]

>>49977232
Ayame streams enough to have yabs?

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>>49983318
manhera?

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>>49984584
manhara
menhere

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>>49941248
Is l*ger still around?

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>>49956028
That site is a mix between meme tier and schizo central. Any site having pekora and miko close to the bottom should be just disregarded. Worst part is that you go into their threads and there’s nothing to be hated on: no yab no nothing. It’s just a couple of organized schizos downvoting and maximizing any dumb shit they do.
That being said, matsuri is easily the most hated active holo along with laplus, but when you have a site where people like Noel, Iroha and Lui are in the bottom only because japs decided to hate on them (again, no real yabs) it takes away any resemblance of credibility.

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>>49954105
>funny thing is JP fans do the exact fucking same years-behind-on-knowledge + flanderization with the ENs too
I love when JPbros exclaim "Kari-san kakkoi!"

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>>49983481
They hate her because she doesn’t stream and she only comes back to stream when either her birthday or anniversary live is close. To them she’s a money grabbing whore who doesn’t care about her fans and since she doesn’t stream they assume she’s a bf too.
That’s why they hate her.

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>>49941248
1%

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>>49985375
>again, no real yabs

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>>49986268
Yes, no real yabs. Instead of quoting like a cocky faggot say the yabs. They are clean, at least as of today. They don’t even have rm yab (just in case you were gonna mention Noel’s rm like retard believing what she does constitutes a yab).

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>>49941248
I feel like I don't see her with the other holos besides stars anymore

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>>49944130
Kek
Matsuri in a nutshell

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>>49965612
Damn bro you must've been starving for the past year...

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>>49944141
The difference is that Towa has lots of sex but doesnt talk about it and Matuli does not have sex at all but talks a lot about it

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>>49944130
Being yourself is the definition of based

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>>49985375
Why is wagahai so hated? I thought she was super popular

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>>49983318
I thought some anons purposely spell it wrong, but they aren't?
>>49984584
Menhera
I don't know if you're the type to misspell oshi as well, but just in case
It's oshi not oishi

[Anonymous No.]

>>49991599
>lazy
>doesn't care about hololive
>sucks up dicks to male apex streamers
Ungrateful Zoomer Bitch deserves to be shunned

[Anonymous No.]

>>49991599
syphilis

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>>49992923
and to think that she was supposed to be the gen leader and was hyped so much...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49991599
There has been at least 20 threads about it, look it up.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah pretty much

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>>49941248
idk who is saying whore unironically nijinigger deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>49991599
Slightly less bad Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941567
I love matsuri
I love nozomi

[Anonymous No.]

>>49992519
oishi desu nee....

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>>49941248
Matsuri before all the male collabs and rm incidents used to be near 5view CCV. Now, she's doing good if she peaks at 4k. She is a perfect example of a JP that was punished by unicorns.

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>>49945922
Still a whore. People here only like in delusional state. Because she is japanese and asian. And have yellow fever. Whores are whores even in Japan. All over the world are whores men and women.

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>>49941248
Bae deflection thread

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>>49956028
Japs make sense in their (dis)taste for once.

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri is fine and this shite fucking board is full of retards who don't know anything about her and just want to shitpost about unicorns and male collabs for the 50th time today. She reclined because she got tired of the CGDCT idol shtick (which Hololive only pivoted towards long after Matsuri joined, so it's not like she knew what she was signing up for) and mostly gave up on the holo box to spam Apex with outsiders. It's a dumb move from a numbers perspective but it doesn't make her a bad person. The supposed big yab that people here keep mentioning did nothing, her numbers were already shit when it happened and they didn't drop any further because of it. She's just Towa if Towa didn't put in the effort to stay inside the box by doing frequent collabs, organizing tournaments, showing up in other people's lives, etc.

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>>49992957
You have no idea how much she has fucked up until now. It’s honestly amazing. And it’s not even about male collabing, if it were only that (like Towa) it would’ve been fine but she’s really scummy. It’s so bad not even matome sites need to make up shit: what she does for real is bad enough and is constant enough they can just add more shit without having to lie.
Cover fucked up big time with that hire to be frank. And they even made her the leader of that gen… quite a mistake on the hiring process.

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>>49997775
> She's just Towa if Towa didn't put in the effort to stay inside the box by doing frequent collabs, organizing tournaments, showing up in other people's lives, etc.
So she’s completely different besides of collabing with males. Za hando and the host club affected her a lot. Just because she was already in the shitter doesn’t mean she wasn’t affected.
And to say she got tired of idol shit… yeah, you either don’t watch her or don’t understand what she says.

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>>49999054
>Just because she was already in the shitter doesn’t mean she wasn’t affected.
Affected how? Her numbers haven't really gone down since the great Apex filter.

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>>49945922
>i learn from internet
Body count of 40 is fucking insane, idiot, not even some porn actresses have that

[Anonymous No.]

>>49999329
That's like 1 year if you go out to party most weekends, not unrealistic at all. If anything a bit on the lower side

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>>49999200
Her karaokes used to get more numbers and even her apex streams used to get more than nowadays.
A lot of hakooshi moved on from her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49999329
You have never talked to an american woman apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>49999378
a fairly average sized meal for a person don't you think? i wouldn't want to consume 40 people, but i could, easily.

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>>49999385
Very unscientific method but I went to her channel and scrolled down to like 2 years ago and the first normal karaoke stream I saw had like 20k more vod views than her most recent karaoke from 2 weeks ago, and that's a vod that's had 2 years to get additional views. She also had a 10k+ ccv Apex collab with Kamito yesterday. I don't think your yab drama bullshit has had any real effect outside of your doxxnigger websites.

[Anonymous No.]

JP try's to shit on Matsuri but the recent RUST streamer event put her back on the spotlight. She's too sociable to disappear / or go full menhera. Her numbers are low but she's fine with it so it's all good, she's openly said she enjoys what she does.

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>>49999684
This, /vt/ is notorious for shitty on chubas but you got to try harder, prob just the general anti-loli body brigade in swing again getting triggered by her ability to gain attention

[Anonymous No.]

>>49997977
Qrd??

[Anonymous No.]

>>49992519
>>49994037
moshi moshi, ooishi kuraudo desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>49977232
Chinese still are seething that Fubuki chose Coco over them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49997977
it's THAT bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49997977
Everyone let this man cook so he can make shit up, give him time please..

[Anonymous No.]

>>49977232
Checking the comments it's just a bunch of roommate stuff and people who hate vtubers in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941248
>Its ok if the Japanese do it
Unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>50000444
back to r*ddit, zo0mer

[Anonymous No.]

>>49999684
If you really think her numbers, both views and superchats, weren’t affected by such insane yabs then there’s nothing else to discuss honestly.
She was doing poorly due to apex spam but after those yabs hakooshi idol fags dropped her and it obviously affected her numbers.
Nowadays you can even see her struggling to get to 2k and before even when she was in the middle of the male apex spam she constantly managed to get 3k.

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>>50000555
Still waiting for you to refute her Apex streams where she is comfortable with the freedom she has. Wasn't even that anon, but Karaoke isn't the measurement tool that defines JP anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49999970
>>50000444
Fags, just go to any matome shithole. As I implied everything you will find there (that happened as laplus) is pretty much confirmed at this point.
>>50000444
I didn’t do anything to deserve this nigger zoomer speak.

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>>50001112
Retard, I just looked up her stats for August 2021 which is the oldest month with stats on Vstats and she had 5 streams below 2k max ccv, and a bunch more below 3k. This month she had 1 that failed to reach 2k ccv, and 1 between 2k and 3k. You're literally just making shit up.

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>>50001300
Oh lmao I didn't read the whole thread so I thought you were talking about Matsuri

[Anonymous No.]

>>49985496
Try using the past tense when talking about 2022.

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>>49946304
The guy making the comparison is doing it because at one point Matsuri was pretty much the only person Luna collabed with because Luna is a sperglord who doesn't like interacting with new people.
At the time Luna was one of the bottom holos along with Aki and Choco (who were destroying their channels because coco introduced them to ARK autism and they kept spamming it after the fad died). Meanwhile Matsuri was one of the top 5 biggest holos because of all the EOPs watching her due to her clips of saying degenerate clips going viral.
If you had told people that one day Luna would be getting 3 to 5 times the amount of views that Matsuri is getting, people would have called you retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49997775
>>49999054
I keep hearing about this massive yab yet I've not heard anyone mention it yet. When other Holos have massive yabs its brought up 24/7 in all their threads for months sometimes years. I hear fucking Za Hando brought up more than this apparently turbo yab that's worse than that.

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>>50001434
Ok, anon. Japs don’t care about any of those yabs and it didn’t affect her. Whatever you want to believe.
She just become the most hated hololive member out of the blue and that hate doesn’t affect her somehow.

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>>49991599
She's literally Japanese Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50001637
What are you talking about? Matsuri yabs are literally za hando and host club. Nothing else. Or at least nothing tops those two.

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>>50001670
Her numbers were literally objectively factually not affected as proven by the actual fucking numbers which are extensively recorded in a number of dedicated websites. The fact that doxxniggers shit on her on sukikirai or whatever drama shithole you're browsing doesn't change that. You were the one claiming that her numbers fell because of the yab drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50001785
>Host club
Ive not heard that one. Is that the most recent thing? What did she go to a host club or something?

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>>50001800
You deeply invested in sukikirai it seems. I never stated I went there in the first place. In fact I said that site is schizo central.
But whatever, you probably are like the other 99% of retards here who don’t speak Japanese and believe whatever the voices in their heads say.
So once again, sure, anon. An idol being found out with a dude and going to host clubs didn’t affect her image and reputation at all, numbers included.
>>50001961
It was like feb 2022 iirc

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>>50002114
>numbers included
Numbers are numbers nigger, show me the stats

[Anonymous No.]

>>50001961
>Is that the most recent thing?
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>50001800
not that anon, but her cheers was noticeably less than the others talents during 4th fes and even when compare to 1st fes, (can't compare 2nd or 3rd because of online and covid rule) why that?

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>>50002341
He just wants to believe nothing matters and that matsuri gets 20k every stream. Let him be.
Nips aren’t forgiving. Of course idolfags moved on but this nigger thinks she has to go to 200 views tier in order to admit two insane yabs affected her reputation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50002576
>and that matsuri gets 20k every stream
Retard she was getting sub 2k ccv 2 years ago, her numbers died because of her content, not because of her rm yabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>50002718
Her numbers died because of her content and it was then further cemented by two strong yabs. I agree.

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>>50001568
meh Luna still doesn't like interacting with new people outside her clique which is a shame because her rare collab with Pekora and Marine are actually kino.

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>>50002786
judging by what happened to her in Nijisanji, she is being careful who she associate with.

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>>50002999
Yeah. I cannot believe that Runa was raped by Sasaki Saku in hot and sweltering summer of 2019.

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>>50002786
She gets on others nerves sometimes so I get why.

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>>49941248
ENtubers have always been treated like second-class citizens. Because that's what they are.

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>>49941248
>Whore
Vshojo
>Whore, JP
Hololive

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She should just go back to being a whore in minecraft instead of apex.

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>>50004111
>t. least retarded EOP

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>>49941248
Lol you think anyone gives a shit about Handtsuri

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>>50002341
You are autistic lol, people cheered normally, if anything the fact that her sound started immediately with loud guitars made the cheers harder to hear than for other girls who had a few seconds of silence or slow build up after they first showed up on stage

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>>49997775
actually sane, knowledgeable opinion, /thread

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>>49999329
>I learn from the internet
You clearly, CLEARLY have no idea how slutty most modern women are, a bunch of my coworkers have talked about it and they lost their virginity between 12-13 years old and have been having sex with different guys for the past 15 years, a new sex friend every 2 months

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>>50005893
This is pure suicide fuel as someone who wants a relationship with a virgin like myself who actually values sex as something that happens between people who love each other.

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>>50006277
There is still hope in japan and it's neet women who somehow manage to avoid sex and shut themselves in their parents house despite being completely fine in the looks department. The counter side is the turbo stacys of japan who cheat with everything that moves

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>>50006277
Virgin women past the age of 20 do exist in the west Anon, they're just 1 in 5,000 and they never leave their house so you won't be meeting one, ever.

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>>49999329
Most girls will easily hit triple digits before graduating college and you're an absolute fool if you think otherwise

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>>50006277
Nowadays, people will just tell you to just kys for not accepting other people's status, but I get you. I also believe that because I was raised that way. Our desire or belief is outdated, man.

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>>50006465
That's the thing though. I want a woman who would reject casual sex if approached and you just know that some women who live as neets wouldn't reject men if there were any actually approaching them.
>>50006594
There's also the fact I'm a massive loser myself so unless I ever improve I wouldn't stand a chance against even the most average of guys. I'll still try to self improve but it does feel hopeless at times.
>>50006813
>Our desire or belief is outdated, man.
Yeah I know man. Some people think I'm weird for wanting a partner who wouldn't fuck someone else after I die. Some people think it's a strange desire to have, but I don't think it is.

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>>49980992
You forgot the most important yab
She's pregnant
And I'm the father

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>>50007190
Same

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>>49999329
As a guy invisible to women I work in an office where women talk about how they are sidechicks and meeting multiple guys on tinder.
All you need it to be average (invisible) and have female coworkers and it ensures you're never going to get married when you consider what you're getting.

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>>49941385
Literally a 14 k Apex male collab stream the other day.

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>>49941248
Seems like on a recent stream she mentioned she would retire the moment she could get her hands on someone rich.
While absolutely reasonable, really retarded to put that out there. I hope she stays away from the other girls; her stupid might infect them

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>>49942302
Weak bait but your EN whores are still whores

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>>50014476
Japanese women cannot be whores, its in the definition. It would be like saying wet fire, it doesn't make sense.

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>>50003878
Harsh but true.

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>>49941385
I'm going to play Devil's Advocate and just say that Matsuri never had unicorns in her fanbase to begin with and therefore whatever retarded thing she did really affected her popularity little, I think most people who watch her are just for the coombait and to see what stupid shit she comes up with next and to pretend otherwise is to deny reality.

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Do the people who whine about whores really make an exception for Japanese whores?

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>>50017314
This is a thread shitting on matuli for being a whore.

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>>50017267
>I think most people who watch her are just for the coombait and to see what stupid shit she comes up with next
Most people who watch her watch her because she's a super sweet and nice girl who has really genuine interactions with a bunch of fun people, her only "problem" is that she never conformed to the new Hololive identity post gen 3. If you look at female Vtubers outside of Hololive or even just Hololive before gen 3, Matsuri's type of flirty banter is super common even among relatively clean Vtubers who aren't seen as whores by anyone other than hardcore Hololive only EOPs.

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>>50007079
>I want a woman who would reject casual sex if approached and you just know that some women who live as neets wouldn't reject men if there were any actually approaching them.
I get that. It shows peoples values, while those who never have the opportunity may lack those values.
>>50007079
>Some people think I'm weird for wanting a partner who wouldn't fuck someone else after I die. Some people think it's a strange desire to have, but I don't think it is.
I also get this. I mean if there is an afterlife your relationship can keep going monogamously, while if you saw someone else it would be awkard as fuck. If there is no afterlife no one can complain about how they regretted living their life.

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>>50019306
I was feeling really shitty and alone on this but even having a few people understand my perspective makes me feel a bit better.

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>>50019393
Only this shithole, /soc/ and whatever female/fag infested boards you can think of may think otherwise, dude.

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>>50019575
Oh I am aware. I am pretty convinced that most normalfags are only happy with their relationships because they intentionally avoid topics like these and hope to live in ignorant bliss.

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>>50019393
If you feel the former is a rare perspective the gothic novel The Monk is based entirely around the topic of someone condemning others for how they lived, from a position where they never had the temptation, then when tempted they fail hard. Even in dating it's pretty clear. Women say they want a guy who ticks all the boxes, but they don't just want him, they want him to choose her when he could have any other woman. Thats why they seethe when men have other women they are committed too or just don't commit to her.

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>>50006277
A couple of months ago I probably would have told you to get over yourself anon, but after actually getting a GF that has had lots of ex’s, I totally understand you now and just wanna say I’m sorry. It feels horrible when she will just casually mention one of her exs and in the back of my head I have to process that it’s incredibly likely she was fucked by said ex and its really jarring and off putting, especially with the regularity that it keeps popping up. She talks about sex so casually now to the point it feels like it’s the only thing she cares about, and I’m constantly left wondering if I’m just one of her many “toys” or if I even satisfy her half the time.

I hope you can find that virgin girl who values the same things you do anon.

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>>50020502
>after actually getting a GF
kys normalfag

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>>50017267
>no unicorns
how to tell everyone you are a newfag. she was one of the most popular holo in 2020.

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>>50020997
>she was popular therefore she had unicorns
That isn't how this works.

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>>50021345
nigga she was actively pandering to them during that time. get out of your headcanon.

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>>50022693
Retard, here's a clip from early 2020 where Matsuri tells a Niji male that she wants to drink his piss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txm975xeBw8

Sure looks like unicorn pandering huh

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>>50018828
That’s not really the problem. Towa, Fubuking, Suisei and even Aki to a minor degree have collabed with males and while general audience doesn’t like that they are not actively hated like matsuri. Matsuri’s problem were her rm’s male yabs. Telling her fans she was lonely and then seeing that hand on stream was disingenuous as fuck. She alleged it was a stalker yet she didn’t move from her place. It’s pretty much a given that hand wasn’t the hand of an intruder.

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>>50023332
>Towa, Fubuking, Suisei and even Aki to a minor degree have collabed with males and while general audience doesn’t like that they are not actively hated like matsuri
Towa, Fubuki, Suisei and Aki interact with males in a very safe way that's still ultimately Holo unicorn approved even if they'd prefer no male interactions at all. Matsuri interacts with males the same way that many talents from other agencies like Niji, VSPO, 774, Neoporte, etc. do which is a big no-no for many of the newer Hololive fans. Matsuri's numbers fell off way before any of her big RM yabs. I had a look in vstats earlier and she was getting sub 2k ccv gaming streams in mid 2021, which was long after the Hololive boom (so 2k ccv for a HoloJP talent was absolutely not good or even decent numbers) but before her big yabs.

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>>50006653
starting to realize my sexual experiences are not normal based on this thread (halfway through college and still haven't lost my virginity; deranged sperg)
either you guys are lying or i'm not representative of the general population desu

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>>50024312
>i'm not representative of the general population desu
>sperg
No shit. Spergs of either gender aren't representative of the normal population, neither are people who watch vtubers (especially now the lockdown boost ended)

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>>50024597
it's just hard for me to believe that normal women are actually having sex with 20+ men a year
i'm just trying to wrap my brain around how that happens. where are they going to meet so many men dtf??? how do you proposition them without wanting to kill yourself out of social awkwardness?? how do you know they're even attracted to you???? i don't get it

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>>50024683
Anon...
Normies have cocaine parties every Friday to Monday...

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>>50023615
Matsuri had other issues before that, if I'm not mistaken she already was isolated by 2021 after fubuki tried to help her and the whole thing with luna. By then she already went on a date with hskw, had rumors about going to host bars plus the male collabs where she basically sexually harassed them. She lost her steam because of a bunch of factors that added up. The so called big yabs just confirmed what everyone already knew.

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>>50025539
>plus the male collabs where she basically sexually harassed them
That was her thing from the start though, it was Hololive that changed, not her

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>>50025654
Maybe but failing to adjust is also part of why she's irrelevant now.

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>>50025930
It is what it is, she might be a runt in Hololive but in the grand scheme of things she's still doing fine and she gets to do what she wants.

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>>49954281
Can you post them?

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>>49941385
This, matsuri never really recovered from za hando

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>>49946304
Luna is a great measurement because of how much the two used to collab with each other until they completely stopped and all the collabs on luna's channel with matsuri are gone

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>>49954824
Not really, JP has to save her and none of them want to

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>>49999970
>>50000192
not him but she tried leeching her fanbase to her IRL band and got a shit ton of pushback
she went onto message boards to shit talk otaku and started talking about self harm
she's lied on multiple occasions that she was sick or had to help family members and it's why she can't do a full member HoloX collab and then was seen just playing FPS games with jp e-celebs she's been trying to get with

After there was so much major fan pushback against her, she took a gigantic break and forced cover to make a statement saying that they will aggressively litigate criticizing her actions online
When she came back finally, she reiterated this that the next time she sees people put her down that it's the last time they'll see her

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>>50031541
>none of them want to
Some of them have tried but failed and got pushed away.

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>>50001961
One of her friends tried to blackmail her on releasing a pic showing her being at a host club. Wasn't that big of a deal as people understood Matsuri went there to hang out with her friends and the hand was a bigger issue but still rattled things a bit as legal actions might have had to be taken and probably took some wind out of her.

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>>49997977
>Cover fucked up big time with that hire to be frank. And they even made her the leader of that gen… quite a mistake on the hiring process.
Knowing that Cover management consists of people like this I think it was deliberate.

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>>49941248
yes

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>>50034702
the one with the rainbow fans is how i imagine laplus

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>>50031906
seems like festival isn't the worst by far since she at least never tried to sabotage hololive

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>>50020502
Thanks I appreciate it. I've always felt that the reason that some normies dislike girls with higher body counts is that somewhere deep down they're not completely okay with hedonism but they're trying not to think about it.

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>>50043913
Matsuri’s not worse than laplus at all indeed. Matsuri’s actions only hinder herself and while one can dislike what she does, she hasn’t done anything against hololive or her genmates in the grand scheme of things. I have yet to see matsuri canceling her appearance in a full gen collab last moment to then be found out playing valorant with male e-celebs before and after said event. I’d also need to see matsuri making up excuses like having motion sickness that made her unable to play minecraft or rust with holomems but then being perfectly fine playing said games when there are male e-celebs involved. And last thing, I have yet to see matsuri catching covid at the same time as a bunch of male e-celebs she played with on a streamer server and infecting other holomems later on.
Despite matsuri’s problems you can see she enjoys being in hololive. In the past she helped to make hololive big. She didn’t just join when everything was set in order to get money and clout to meet e-celebs and ignore holomems and her fans.

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>>50047514
La cunt is shit.
>>50031906
>When she came back finally, she reiterated this that the next time she sees people put her down that it's the last time they'll see her
Is that meant to discourage those that rightfully hate her and want her gone?

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>>50047660
nta but yes, it was a call to her antis to make them stop since allegedly she got death treats too but she forgive them (very weird to say that since I don’t see how Cover would let that slip. Maybe it el was directed to her rm? Or maybe is it a lie like everything that comes from her?).
Oh, and those are not the only things she has done. If you have time check out her matomes. She’s been involved with so much shit they don’t even need to make up rumors kek

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>>50031475
>and all the collabs on luna's channel with matsuri are gone
...Eh?
She deleted them? Did they have a falling out?

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>>49941248
I want to see her getting gangbanged anon!

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why does everyone here care about a chuuba they don't even watch

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>>50049310
drama board prs understand

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>>50049310
nobody here watches streams

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>>49941248
Based woman being true to herself and pretending to be innocent like every single other girl.