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49856791 No.49856791 [Reply] [Original]

Twitch really is small

>> No.49858152

>VShojo lost 3 of the top 10 Twitch vtubers
Grim

>> No.49858240

>>49856791
Still will only watch Vinesauce on it.

>> No.49858416

>>49858240
Based

>> No.49858663

Tell me about Twitch. Are followers like YT subscriptions?

>> No.49858717

>>49858663
yeah basically

>> No.49858770

>>49858663
Followers = Subs
Subscription = Memberships
Bits = Superchat
3rd party Donations = 3rd party Donations

>> No.49859569

twitch fanbase is more dedicated. you get per capita more subs.

If I hear vtubers talking about being broke at 1k youtube views while 1k twitch views means swimming in money.

>> No.49860269

>>49859569
completely the opposite
twitch views and subs are meaningless, the most popular streams are rarely because they are popular streamers but because you get fortnite codes or some shit for watching them, or they got put on the front page because it's one of the 342 days a year they have to celebrate black and/or gay and/or trans people

>> No.49860285

>>49858152
ccv wise they're still the top

>> No.49860381

>>49856791
Kson and Nazuna loosing to a fucking bot lmao

>> No.49860773

>>49860285
In en sphere? Only ironmouse gets decent CCV and henya right now, rest are all 2-4k stremers, and twitch is dominated by korian vtubers at the top no one in en comes even close

>> No.49860859

>>49860285
Twitch CCV of twitch partners is bullshit and everyone knows it.

>> No.49860881

>>49860269
the top twitch chuubas make more than HoloEN

>> No.49860894

>>49860881
Proof next thread?

>> No.49860937

>>49856791
Huh I thought Hinano have popular than Nazuna

>> No.49861018

>>49860269
It's called
>Drops
Basically gaining in-game items for watching stremes combining with the fact that they count embedded and multi tabs it's an unholy combination of botted or quasi botted stremes that people are watching just for the item's i game, and they have a 50/50 revenue split from all shit youtube pays based on vod views so yeah youtube definitely pays more depending on where you live that is.

>> No.49861035

>>49859569
The entire ecosystem is dedicated to extracting money from viewers. It's why every twitch streamer's interface is polluted with "sub goals", "latest donor", "latest subscriber", etc., with all sorts of paid interaction. The system works well if you're a streamer who likes constantly shilling yourself, or if you're a viewer who wants to be told how great you are for giving them money. If you're actually interested in the content, though, from either side, it sucks.

>> No.49861063

>>49860773
>twitch is dominated by korian vtubers at the top no one in en comes even close
This isn't true anymore. The Korean vtubers have been declining recently. I'd say they're comparable to the Korean vtubers now.

>> No.49861092

>>49861063
There are 2 companies on there isagye and stellarlive i think? And they both have multiple 5views some of them had 13k or so average last time i checked

>> No.49861131

>>49861063
regardless idk why people bring up the korean chuubas whenever they talk about (en) twitch chuubas
just because they're both on twitch doesn't mean it's the same thing, it's two different markets
you don't compare en holos with jp holos obviously

>> No.49861191

Twitch is fundamentally western, so indonesians such as yourselves can't possibly hope to understand it.

>> No.49861236

>>49861191
true if you'd remove all the seafags no one would watch the holowhores

>> No.49861237

How does Shxtou keep managing to get so many followers despite his ccv dropping so hard?
The dude went from 12k to less than 5k ccv

>> No.49861545

>>49858152
This is kind of flawed since it's using followers not ccv but still not good regardless. It honestly really shook things up for the EN Twitch vtuber scene when Nyanners, Veibae, Silvervale left.
Suddenly, the English Twitch vtuber scene became indie-dominated.

>> No.49861724

>>49861191
Dosent change that fact that it is a small market for vtubers retard

>> No.49861768

>>49861724
Twitch is still relatively new for vtubers though. So they haven't really had as much time to build up followers as non vtubers.
There are some streamers out there with more followers than many of these vtubers yet have a lower ccv just because they've been streaming for like over a decade.

>> No.49861858

>>49861768
It's not? It's just a little younger then the youtube market it's just that the people that watch vtubers arnt on twitch it's a rotton platform dominated by react stremers it's pretty much impossible for a vtuber to reach there level.

>> No.49861895
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49861895

>>49856791

>> No.49861936

>>49861895
high cvv less then 100k followers
isegye really is pathetic

>> No.49862006
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>>49861936
Same for JP when they get going.
East Asians follow/sub less compared to 'follow and forget' westerners, but are more dedicated.

Even with the assumption that KRs bot streams more than NA people, their chat is massively more involved even at lower ccv.

>> No.49862058

>>49856791
where this from?

>> No.49862088

>>49856791
yet they all get mogged by Isegay in actual views

>> No.49862135

>>49856791
Twitch is dying because of the trannies running it and that's a good thing

>> No.49862149

>>49862058
https://hololist.net/top/?platform=twitch

>> No.49862169

>>49861191
To be fair, seaniggers don't understand youtube either or anything really

>> No.49862192

>>49862088
Yet they can't manage to get in the top 50th most followed vtubers

>> No.49862250

>>49861895
>>49862006
Again I don't really get the point of comparing EN and KR for Twitch vtubers. They're basically two different markets.
Like you said East Asians are more dedicated followers than Westerners. It's a different game basically

>> No.49862267

>>49862149
>>49856791
>admiralbahroo
Has he even used the model in the last full year?

>> No.49862304

>>49856791
Fun fact: Hololive (Sakura Miko) only uses Twitch for irregular watchlong streams.

>> No.49862353

>>49862250
Some people on this board were coping with "But Isegye" when it was clear VShojo was dominating english twitch vtubing. Even though no one compares east asian and western chuuba numbers on youtube.
But now VShojo isn't dominant anymore after losing 3 members, so I don't get why they're doing this still.

>> No.49862355

>>49862267
I don't think so, so he shouldn't really count in this list anymore.

>> No.49862530

>>49862353
Cus u gotta differentiate the markets. You can't just say Ironmouse/VSJ is dominating the Twitch scene, when is reality its KRs. You gotta add the EN disclaimer or anons think u r claiming Twitch as a whole.

>> No.49862699

>>49862530
I mean if we're being realistic 80% of the time this board just talks about EN stuff by default. It's probably safe to assume that's what people are talking about most of the time.
And of the 20% of the time they don't, most of that is over JP Holos.

>> No.49862730

>>49856791
>neurosama catching up
Watch out vshojo.

>> No.49862741

>>49862355
By the "popular convert" rule, he shouldn't have counted from the start, but it's different for indies.
They don't have the luxury to drop their established, no cam channels to make a new "full vtuber" one.

>> No.49862770

I didn't know rpr was that big relative to the rest of the twitch vtuber scene, kinda tragic IMO

>> No.49862804

>>49862741
Follower count is kind of meaningless anyway so it doesn't really matter I'd say. But yeah it obviously wouldn't make sense for any indie vtuber to drop their old established channels.

>> No.49862811

>>49862730
Neuro has been declining lately

>> No.49862856

I just remembered that it's SEA time.
It's common knowledge in streaming circles that the numbers on Twitch are worth 4 times more than those on Youtube.

>> No.49862937

>>49862856
4 times less, yes

>> No.49864054

>>49861858
Most top streamer have been in the twitch market for 10+years and the #1 streams 12hrs every day... vtubers do 4MAX(most of them)

>> No.49866249

>>49856791
TuT

>> No.49866453

>>49861895
Didn't know Vei's ccv average was so close to mouse, yikes on losing her then. Now they don't even have anyone close to comparable in numbers and looking at youtube video/vod stats most of these don't have anything there to write home about.

>> No.49866650

>>49856791
A lot of the "size" of twitch is noviews, the platform is super top heavy and has a huge dropoff outside of big streamers.
There was a stat a year ago that showed if you had on average 6 viewers you were on the top 6% of twitch streamers, and to be in the top 1% you only needed 50.

>> No.49866795

>>49856791
>independent
[x] doubt

>> No.49866908

>>49860881
Quality over quantity

>> No.49869381

indie chuuba now has more ccv than half of holoen and holoID, what is happening holobros

>> No.49872019

lul

>> No.49876011

>>49856791
TuT

>> No.49877222

>>49856791
>Shxtou
Fujos and BFE sisters are really fucking numerous aren't they.

>> No.49877565
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49877565

>>49877222
kek
Never underestimate the power of horny women

>> No.49877890

Is Twitch still around?
I thought streamers had long since fled to Tiktok and Youtube.

>> No.49878431

>>49856791
vhoejo can't compete with Holo or Niji on youtube, so they stayed in twitch, the king of the well, not the ocean.

>> No.49878504

>>49877565
What are women even going to do with an ass

>> No.49878565

>>49878431
>vhoejo
OHHHH SHIT

>> No.49878984

>>49856791
This list is missing A LOT of vtubers
Go ask /lig/ to fill it up for you

>> No.49879047

>>49878984
What the fuck does it matter if they're smaller than 250k followers

>> No.49879173

>>49877890
Nobody has ever fled twitch. What it takes to get them off the platform is a 7 figure signing on fee or a permaban.

>> No.49879243

>>49879047
Because they're not smaller than 250k. That's what I meant by them being missing from the list.

>> No.49879339

>>49862811
>>49861063
*reclining
They're not sitting in a chair.

>> No.49879968

>>49860859
sounds like cope

>> No.49880394

>>49860773
If you have more than 5 viewers on twitch, you've made it.

>> No.49880776

>>49862353
Almost every mention about Isegye on this board is purely to use it as a cudgel to attack VShojo so they can say that they're not even at the top of Twitch. Nobody cares about them beyond that.

>> No.49880939

>>49866453
Vei's got great numbers but her streaming habits are atrocious. She took a break from streaming when she moved to the US, but decided to just segue that break into lasting until her new model debut. So she's been on break for almost 2 months now with literally zero warning to her audience and is finally coming back today after having not streamed since the end of March

>> No.49881093

>>49856791
Does follower count matter if you can reach similar ccv?

>> No.49881338

>>49881093
Not at all. If that list was accurate NimuVT from Argentina would be at number with roughly 2.5m followers and she averages about 1k these days.

>> No.49881461

>>49860773
>2-4k isn't even "decent"
you "people" desperately need a reinforced rope my god

>> No.49881746

>>49856791
I feel bad for twitch viewers when this is the list of people they have to choose from

>> No.49881802

>>49856791
>>>>>>>>>>independent

>> No.49881849

>>49881746
True. Sakura Miko is a whore.

>> No.49888205

>>49856791
ewww

>> No.49890491

>>49856791
Vei would be number 1 if she could just stream more than once a week

>> No.49892335

>>49856791
Where are the Koreans? Aren't they the biggest VTubers on Twitch?

>> No.49892524

>>49856791
WHERE THE FUCK IS CHIBI >:[

>> No.49892577

>>49892335
Their data is garbage. They're missing loads of korean, japanese, spanish and even EN vtubers.

>> No.49892713

>>49862811
Pre re debut decline.

>> No.49894096

>>49881802
No one would argue that Jerma isn't an "independent" streamer despite also being in a talent agency, I don't get why vtuber fans get so autistic about this

>> No.49894446

>>49894096
he's not an independent streamer either, being in an agency literally fucking disqualifies you from that

>> No.49895975

>>49856791
>Miko only uses twitch for weekly watchalongs
>still in the top 20
Truly elite.

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