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Road to 3 views edition

>> No.49853444
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49853444

Well Hololive, looks like I win.

>> No.49853619

>>49853399
Have sex, gain height, take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue

>> No.49853654

>Popular demand
yeah. /here/. great job anon you did it

>> No.49853745

>>49853399
He needs to leech more of the girls that way he will surely become a solid 4viewer again....!

>> No.49853919

>>49853619
>gain height

height??

>> No.49854061

>>49853399
>turn yourself into Kronii's pet/collab accessory after spewing a bunch of shit about how streamers live and die by their solo stuff
>people become interested in you only when you're around her and her raspy voiced wigger friend
>your audience is now 65% people that only watch the collabs with those girls, they literally only watch those and nothing else
Oh golly gee such a mysterious analysis of numbers oh gosh AHYUCK golly gee I wonder why the numbers are low oh maaaaan the biggest mystery of all time. Fucking faggot did it to himself. Second wave of tempus might also be low numbers but at least they're keeping to themselves for the most part.

>> No.49854135

>>49853399
I remember when tempiss fags claimed he'd keep his debut numbers and would keep beating Kiara in her timezone.
He can't even beat Mori's disastrous Raid shadow legends shill stream.

>> No.49854142

>>49853919
Knee enhancements

>> No.49854219

>>49853399
>look ma, I made YET ANOTHER retarded shitty catalog bait post, and disguised it as a general this time!
kys

>> No.49854302

>>49853399
This is crazy, i used watch him and usually got 10k doing zatsudan, i leave around he got 8k avarage
And now this is his number..

>> No.49854475

>>49854061
I dropped Tempus despite liking them and /MANS/ because of all those collabs.

>> No.49854496

>>49854302
I never paid attention to tempiss. He really got numbers like that int he past?

>> No.49854572

>>49853399
say the word

>> No.49854666
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>>49853399
BY POPULAR DEMAND

>> No.49854753

>>49854219
I thinking they should make more of these stealth homo shilling threads, /vt/ really likes them

>> No.49854809

>>49854475
This, I overall hate collabs no matter who... can I just get some chill streams with streamers I like??

Like Mag is chill solo I dont want others talking over each other in a mess of a discord call... especially not Mori.

>> No.49854824

>>49854666
That's... Not good.

>> No.49854901

>>49854496
Surprisingly yes. I think I still have a screenshot of him peaked at 13k or something during a normal zatsu I think

>> No.49854952

>>49853399
>numbernigger
>always think about dick
name iconic duo

>> No.49854993

1k7, his usual number despite different time frames than usual. He's fine

>> No.49855079

>>49853399
>have dedicated schizo
yeah they are still popular

>> No.49855081

No matter how much you seethe you will never get a chance to talk with kronii unicorn-kun

>> No.49855135

>>49853399
I think if you can maintain as a 4view for a zatsu at this stage, he's not going to be a 3view. Even Chloe drops to like 2k when she does a zatsu.

>> No.49855147

>>49854901
Screenshot from your dream

>> No.49855185

>>49855081
Based. Hope Kronii talks with Vesper's cum.

>> No.49855187

>>49854993
Nov-Feb he averaged around 3k
"He's fine" is a nice cope

>> No.49855204

I DON'T KNOW ANY JAPANESE

>> No.49855264

>>49855135
>Chloe drops to like 2k
Is she boring or something? Because that’s pretty low

>> No.49855266

>>49855079
>3 view
>Popular
Well by some standards I guess

>>49855135
But Chloe aint even remotely interesting as a person though

>> No.49855304

>>49854061
>>49854475
>>49854809
Retard you literally can count with finger how much he collabed with girls ,it's not everyday things stop falsefagging

>> No.49855319

>>49855264
I'm not Japanese. I just sometimes see numbers.

>> No.49855366

>>49855264
very basic and naively stupid, but not in the charming Nene/Miko way... more annoying fashion

>> No.49855383

>>49854135 >>49854666
Don't worry Tempus is ok and already auditioned another member

>> No.49855424

>>49855187
That's many month ago, non dedicated fans left when he slows down, that's to be expected. When I check out his stream it usually around 1k6 - 2k

>> No.49855435

>>49855366
>very basic and naively stupid
you're mom...

>> No.49855474

>>49855304
I meant in general, I hate Calli that is true but I dont like most of his collabs with other Tempus either
Overall I dont fancy collab despite gender basically

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>>49855435
"You are mom"
???

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>>49853399

>> No.49855595

>>49855544
i'm the baby

>> No.49855604
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>>49855135
>Even Chloe drops to like 2k when she does a zatsu.
No she doesn’t. Here is her last chatting stream
>pic related

In Vesper’s case, chatting streams are part of his main content.

>> No.49855635

>>49853399
we lost incelbros

>> No.49855651

>>49855604
birthday buff

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>>49855604
>No she doesn’t. Here is her last chatting stream
>birthday talk
Really? Is this a serious attempt at defending her zatsus?

>> No.49855836

>>49854302
The menhera arc really hurt him. A lot of the tempus box doesn't like him much because of them. That's why he's gone from 4k to 1.5 to 2k.

EN as a whole has been on the decline for both hololive and nijisanji.

People are moving to small corpos and indies.

For this stream though it was uscheduled and middle of the night for most of his audience. So it's impressive he still got 1.5k out of it.

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>>49855147
maybe, but I still remember someone talked about it

>> No.49855983

>>49855942
Look at the dates. That was still well within debut buff range.

>> No.49856211

>>49855836
after all the guerillas he's been doing he has a 1k floor no matter what he does. far cry from the past but decent after all the yabs

>> No.49856217

>>49854666
for a guy who stopped leeching, not bad, i'm proud of him standing on his own two feet.
vesper and the mag on the other hand
nepotism hires shows it's "talents"

>> No.49856267

>>49856217
>standing on his own two feet
>carried for over a month by the grace of Axel's invite and Selen

>> No.49856321

>>49856217
Vesper, Magni, and Bettel are the only ones in Tempus that aren't complete flops.

>> No.49856368

>>49855836
>The menhera arc really hurt him
look more like the yab affect more the rest of tempiss than him

he's the only 4 views , even magni is getting 3 views streams lately

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49856426

THEY ARE DOING FINE OKAY

t. indog

>> No.49856480

>>49856217
runtare is a three view and he was carried by selene a whole month and even with that barely beat vesper's media that month

>> No.49856487

>>49856217
>for a guy who stopped leeching, not bad, i'm proud of him standing on his own two feet.

Selen still got the aftertaste of his semen in her mouth anon...

>> No.49856571

>>49853399

>> No.49856656
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>>49855836
>People are moving to small corpos and indies.
No they’re not. There is a single small corpo and indie right now in the EN YouTube market with a 4 digits median (Pippa), all of the rest are on 3 digits.

The drop from Nijis and Holos was in the thousands, tens of thousands of their regular audience, if they had moved to small corpos and indies it would have shown up in their numbers
>it didn’t
Because it didn’t happen in any significant numbers

>> No.49857496

Bump for good thread

>> No.49857588

>>49856656
Tempus really showcasing their insane popular demand once you put it into graphs lmao

>> No.49857603

>>49856217
Those are 250K celebration unarchived karaoke numbers

>> No.49858995

>>49857603
Aint he supposed to be good at singing too? Pretty grim numbers then

>> No.49859027

>>49855135
Anon, for vesper zatsu are his main content, it's wasn't rare that his zatsu were more popular than his gaming streams. Well in the past.

>> No.49859130

>>49859027
>Well in the past.
you said it
his zatsu isn't a buff anymore, his gaming streams has more consistent numbers and it can being between 2k to 3k if it's buff enough

>> No.49859228

>>49856656
>Reine became the lowest viewed ID
What the fuck.

>> No.49859287

>>49859228
ID2 take turn for being the runt

>> No.49859414

>>49855604
damn, from 100k bday live to 6k zatsu
that's a level of recline Homos only experienced in context of debut

>> No.49859457

>>49856656
>17 days of May
>16 streams
Mori is finally starting to embrace the pink woman power

>> No.49859584

>>49859457
Mori is the definition (and Kiara) of a streamer who is active but never grows from it

>> No.49859613

>>49853399
If you're going to use a graph to make your point, why not use one that actually makes your point? Like, say, average CCV over time since his debut, rather than one single stream?

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>>49853444

>> No.49859773

>>49859613
Well it was posted but not by OP >>49856656

>> No.49859790

graduate all homos NOW

>> No.49859791
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>>49859750
All natural

>> No.49859809

>>49859750
the fuck wasnt Selen the shining star of female nijiEN chuubas what happened?

>> No.49859827

>>49853399
>>49854666
my oshis career was destroyed for this

>> No.49859838

>>49856656
Not if they were spread out among the corpos and indies. 500 here. 500 there. It starts to add up. Small corpos are on the incline. Large corpos are on the decline. You figure out the math.

>> No.49859882

>>49859791
considering there are still sisters who hold grudge for the japan arc, it a really good retention

>> No.49859889

>>49854135
How bad is her Raid shill?

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>>49859889

>> No.49860294

>>49859827
Who's your oshi?

>> No.49860326

>>49860294
It was Kronii back then
Now I don't have an oshi

>> No.49860391

>>49859827
anon... kronii only is looking an excuse to bail

>> No.49860422

>>49859838
> 500 here. 500 there
That’s the things, there is no “500 here, 500 there”. Third highest is Tenma, from that point down its low 3 views.

Their audience came from cannibalizing the dead and dying small corpos: Tsunderia, Cyberlive and others (and so did their streamers)

>> No.49860457

>>49853399
Kiara killer btw

>> No.49861298

Why are numberthreads allowed outside of /#/?
Why hasn't SEA been rangebanned yet?

>> No.49861501

>>49861298
shit on homo is always welcome by the jannies

>> No.49861714

>>49861298
so true sister, your whinny tears are so tasty

>> No.49861756

who cares? all that matters is you couldn't get rid of them. Seethe bitch

>> No.49861757

>>49859773
I did see that (and do appreciate >>49856656 s data). Arguably the 1741/1523 CCV for May in there is enough to refute the "road to 3 view" claim of OP, but it's just May.

I'm curious about July 2022 till now. I'm sure it's gone down since debut, but so has everyone in EN. I haven't noticed any particular decline recently and I'm curious what the objective data shows.

>> No.49861815

>>49861298
Enjoy your "vaycay" bro

>> No.49861896

>>49861757
If the thread survives a few hours I can bring it

>> No.49861908

>>49861757
His #1 content being zatsu and that not reaching 4 digits is alarming though

>> No.49862015

>>49860326
From what laughing at a couple of jokes in a collab that maybe happens once or twice a month at most? The rrat about kronies being a bunch of menhera is true it seems.

>> No.49862175

>>49861896
>>49861908
According to Playboard for the year 2022 he averaged 1453 CCV. For April 2023 it was 1533, and so far in May it's 1401.

So pretty much flat for his entire existence. OP is full of shit.

>> No.49862179

>>49859809
Apex

>> No.49862258
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>>49862175
>According to Playboard for the year 2022 he averaged 1453 CCV
He did not. His median for 2022 was 4303 and his average, 3948

>> No.49862294

>>49856656
I've been one of the people at Cover to present this on EN meetings every month, but they just shrug the information like it's nothing. I went ahead to collect my own data without relying on third party sources like 4Chan and presented the methodology and conclusion to them, they don't like it. Fuck me. Japs and unityfaggots there are pulling my strings. I don't even know when EN3 is gonna drop. Even Tempus was a surprise that it went really fast.

>> No.49862342

>>49862294
If you were on Cover you wouldn’t need third parties, just open the channel analytics and fetch from there with even greater details, including demographics.

After COVER became a MCN they don’t even need to do it channel by channel, they likely have it aggregated on their MCN dashboard

>> No.49862520

>>49862342
It wouldn't make my presentation convincing if I include stats that staff can access normally here. I needed outside channels too to gauge the market and competitors.

>> No.49862757

>>49862258
I'll take your stats over mine. Not sure why Playboard is giving me retarded numbers.

>> No.49862821

>>49862757
They have a 10 min wide sampling rate vs. a 15 seconds sampling rate for vrabi and holostats, and a 60 seconds wide for vstats. They also usually only include the last 14 days of streaming or the last 10 streams
Their numbers outside of superchat are garbage

>> No.49862939

>>49861298
Another # thread shitting on girls was made alongside this one and it was quickly deleted. SEA/EU mod allows shitting on everyone expect the holos. That's also why the gnarliest and most persistent shitters go after holos usually, favoritism does that. The mod knows it yet still does his thing, dunno why.

>> No.49863042

Homoshits were a mistake and the single worst thing to happen to Hololive.

>> No.49863087

>>49863042
How so?

>> No.49863139

>>49862258
Do you have 2023 data? It feels like almost every EN vtuber declined this year, and only a few somehow managed to capitalize on others fucking themselves over. Is it because of drama, stagnation or market saturation? I wish I could say it's because of normies going back to their usual lives, but that happened in 2022.

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>>49861757
>I'm curious about July 2022 till now.
>>49861896
>If the thread survives a few hours I can bring it
Here it goes
>* 30 DAYS MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND AVERAGE *

1) It starts 30 days after his debut (being a 30 days average chart)
2) The "dashed line" is his suspension, and his december and january unavailability, whose number of streams were low enough for it not to have enough for the median and the average in 30 days to be significant.

His numbers are in a steep recline since debut but it accelerated since mid April.
I don't follow him enough to even attempt to explain the reason, but he went from stable over 2k for most of 2023 to a STEEP DOWNWARD SPIRAL starting in mid april.

Did he do anything significant in April to piss his audience?

>> No.49863417

>>49863087
HoloEN needed a new gen almost a year ago, instead we got two gens of faggots no one asked for.
Said faggot only brought in fucking drama and a rupture in the fanbase while their results are absolutely laughable.
Their fans are an insufferable sisters that always end up clashing with the core HoloEN audience.
Now HoloEN is in the fucking gutter and reached their lowest point ever while Tempiss are getting regularly mogged by Pippa and half of the ID girls.

>> No.49863499

>>49862294
Hi Loserbait

>> No.49863563

>>49863404
Maybe the PL collabs?

>> No.49863565

>>49863087
Spent resources that could've been used elsewhere for better results for the company as a whole.

>> No.49863748

>>49863417
But the drama is caused by people here? They themselves don't have anything to do with ENs who pander to your kind nor do they stop someone like Gura/Ina from streaming either who were the 2 biggest ENs? I'm still confused...

>> No.49863834

>>49863748
even reddit had to be on a lockdown for like 48h when Tempus2 instead of EN3 was revealed, its clearly not only a /here/ problem anymore

>> No.49863845

im impressed by how much of these so called anti homostar anons knowing full details of these males despite never watching them. Sasuga as always /vt

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>>49863404
Here is one more data point
>his every chat stream
In green, the ones sub 3k, in red, the ones sub 2k.

His numbers too a turn for the worse and its very recent

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>>49863845
You are mistaking interest for numbers with interest for holostars.
There is a thread dedicated exclusively to numbers in this board and there are 801 tracked channels with this exact type of analysis

Here is a recent chart for Neo-Porte's Niu. It doesn't mean there is any particular general interest for Niu's content, grudges or anything of the sorts, only that people requested and numbers were produced for her channel.

>> No.49864007

>>49863834
The shitposters from here are redditors as well, it's more than well known and it has been the case since EN1 was released. The posts here are posted there and vice-versa? Ofc the parasocial or gachis or unicorns (larpers mostly being offended on behalf of others tbf) or whatever they are wanted to post where it's more visible. Not all of them ofc, but it takes like 20 people to make an impact. I can see like... 20, 30 people being mad. I'm still confused...

>> No.49864147

>>49864007
Anon, there was never a moment with more outsiders, shitposters, tourists and people interested in shitposting in that subreddit than
>the "chinkout"
in September and October 2020. Close to that, in general interest in the fandom and outside, there was
>the Rushia firing
in early 2022.
And yet, Tempus 2 debut was the LONGEST lockdown on that place, dwarfing even both of these events.

Let that sink in for a minute, one event that made international mainstream news and one event that made ripples in the whole industry didn't motivate a lockdown as long as what happened when they disclosed Tempus 2.
It was not 20 shitposters from this place. That decision was overwhelmingly reviled by the actual Hololive fandom and that's part of the reason Shinri only hit 100k subs today, 3 months after debut

>> No.49864166

>>49863748
>>49864007
The drama was caused by the fact that any sort of criticism was dogpiled by hordes of rabid sister calling anyone a dangerous schizo incel for not liking ZA BOIZ. The entire thing became some shitty virtue signaling political war which did absolutely nothing but amplify any sort of drama and turn away a lot of genuine Hololive fans. Which explains the dogshit numbers we see across the board.

>> No.49864215

>>49863404
There's nothing comes to my mind, that could piss people off. Honestly, i think it's just pretty stale schedules. Around that time he decided to make his schedule kinda stable (2 zatsus, 2 game streams and membership stream during specific days of the week). So often there's nothing new and fresh and only dedicated fans tune in.

>> No.49864326

>>49863404
>but it accelerated since mid April.
I guess it's because he was playing just hitman and dredge for a whole month

>> No.49864484

>>49863404
>>49864326(me)
he become inconstant on his streams again cuz apparently he is able to organize project and collabs again, he's cooking something but he's canceling streams on his usal time slot and doing more guerrillas

>> No.49864574

>>49855135
>Even Chloe drops to like 2k when she does a zatsu.
what are you even talk about? the only time she ever dropped below 2k was when she was doing the 6th sc reading from her BD scs, and it was literal overlap hell, and that was the only time ever

>> No.49864602

>>49864147
You're talking about debuts which my post didn't even mention since that part is weird to me. Sure it was surprising and yes, fans were expecting EN3, but I don't know why they haven't released more girls, up to JP upper management to release new gens. Maybe not immediately, but by now no one is stopping them and no, EN literal nobody managers aren't in charge of deciding when to release a gen, it's up to JOPs. My post was about them causing 'drama' and making EN decline which they haven't done. Drama is manufactured by posters here, nefariously if I may say so and the decline of EN is entirely ENs fault, mostly Ina's and Gura's for not retaining their large audiences. You just glossed over that and went on about debuts.
>>49864166
I've lurked in all manner of threads, including homo ones, and the posters there keep to themselves or they are holo/niji/indie fans that watch homos on the side. If anything, the posters there watch starsJP the least from what I've seen which is kinda surprising.
I haven't seen any sisters dogpiling on anyone if you compare it to how holofans dogpile on everyone else, including homos. I've seen some yt comments shitting on unicorns, but those are just clipwatchers that I've never seen in any of the streams nor do their comments influence any of the holos. Again, the holos are doing the same thing over and over again while either not streaming at all or constantly taking time off, at least the 2 biggest ones and I don't see how it's homo fault that girls aren't doing anything big/interesting that would retain the audience. I used to watch Kiara every day, but she filtered me with her loud eating, whining and by that point the other ENs weren't interesting either, so I went to watch indies and they too aren't that special, even the one I like is kinda boring lately. Honestly I think that there's an oversaturation, only in JOPland are they thriving, in west they're just diluting the audience.

>> No.49864694

Serves him right for being a fucking leech. He was the most liked member but turned out to be way too retarded for his own good.

>> No.49864758

>>49855304
Seriously, after seeing people reee about it on /vt/ I went to look at their catalogs (I don't watch EN) and was confused to see Hololive-Holostars collabs were once a month at best. How the hell are you gonna even call that friendship, it's bare minimum cross-promotion to connect the audiences

>> No.49864843

The mistake Cover made is that they thought that there is a female audience interested in watching vtubers.
There is no such audience.

There are only men watching.
So if you want to attempt debuting a male branch, they have to be a group of guys that will pander HARD and EXCLUSIVELY to men.
Not even 1% of yumejo and/or fujo pandering.
>no faggots
>no tranny lovers
>no fujobaiters
>no literal trannies
>no "soft boys"

They failed and now they have to face the consequences.

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>>49855692
besides that one, this one is the only other zatsu she did on this year, and it was 1-2 weeks ago, she just dont do zatsus outside of member streams

>> No.49864956

>>49864843
How do you explain all the lesbians in wawa's fanbase then ?

>> No.49865066

>>49864956
I doubt there is a considerable number of lesbians watching EN vtubers (maybe a few hundred), lesbians are not going to watch yumejo/fujo pandering guys. They, for the sake of this example, count as "male" audience since they want similar things from their chubas.

>> No.49865173

>>49864602
Did you miss the entire shitshow when homos first started collabing with HoloEN and especially the Kronii shitshow? The situation was way different and the entire fucking fandom invaded by sisters yelling incel, even /here/.
Things calmed down but the whole thing is still controversial. Just look at that clip of Kanata talking about her no male stance, over 2k comments arguing about it when it's clear less than 1% of those people watch her.
>EN is entirely ENs fault
yes EN had some issues and desperately needed a new gen too. Homos only made thing worse, fans were already kinda bored of EN and got finally turned away from all the drama and homoshit collabs.

>> No.49865185

>>49853399
the homos are very popular /here/ almost as popular as all the girl threads in this board

>> No.49865234

>>49865185
To be fair, bait with them always work

>> No.49865347

>>49865173
I mean some of the other girls have the same stance and their fans dont bother the girls or the homos i guess it just comes down to how many retards you have to wrangle in your fandom

>> No.49865367

>>49865173
I would be more open to your point if I didn't see 10 threads everyday whining about the homos where anons admit they falseflag under Kanata's comment section

>> No.49865979

>>49865347
Yes because some like Bae were clear about their homo stance since day 1 and Mori already filtered her gachi during the TT drama. Ame and especially Kronii randomly doing one or even two homo collabs per week out of nowhere was obviously far more controversial.
As I said HoloEN was already having some issues regarding content and streams, half of the branch suddenly turning into NijiEN didn't fucking help.
>>49865367
Again things are different now. Peak homo drama was a whole different thing and every single community was on fire. From /here/ to Discord to leddit.
>everyone that doesn't fit my narrative is a falseflagger
yeah sorry and I'm supposed to take you seriously?

>> No.49866525

>>49865979
I wouldn't argue if bunch of those shitstirrers weren't trolls with 2 week old accounts or known harassers as seen when you look up their chat histories across the board. Again, sure some people are unhappy, 30-40 at most judging by any likes on any of those negative comments... but compared to tens of thousands of people keeping an eye on a streamer or thousands that watch, I'd say that majority just want to be entertained without caring for little details. Why do you think that Kronii's tempus collabs get so many views while none of those streamers can pull even 1/4 of those collab audience on their own? People don't care, they just want to see something new etc since the regular content of these "idols" is some 1h concert once in a blue moon or the same boring ass RPG or MC episode 1231 with barely anything interesting said on the side. People are getting bored, that's all there is to it, and you can't disprove that. Drama that you whiners make turns away any normal viewers who would donate and watch regardless of the nuances, you are acting like those twitter "they/them" virtue signalers that you pretend to have moved away from. No you didn't, all you did is create the same shitflinging and console war elsewhere. Streamers and audiences have only themselves to blame for any problems.

>> No.49866717

>>49864843
>There is no such audience.
>There are only men watching
go watch the hololive expo clips if you think there are only men watching you fucking moron

>> No.49866827

>complains about low view count
>couldn't find ways to get rid of them and never will
remember that vesper suspension? yeah...

>> No.49867780

>>49866525
Okay what's your point again?
>the drama wasn't a factor in HoloEN's recline and was entirely manifactured
except that it was. Someone pointed out the Reddit lockdown but the Kronii thing was also a complete shitshow. So much she sperged on a fucking clipper channel and needed a statement from Cover to help her out.
>homo collabs are not a problem
Hololive's bread and butter is CGDCT. 99% of their content is that. Male collabs or collabs with outsiders are extremely rare and even the few members who do them do it once every month. Fans want to preserve that and avoid a fucking NijiEN scenario, especially considering how hard Tempus was pushed during debut and in the following months. For some reason this is a taboo and a controversial opinion that will get you labeled as a parasocial incel, which makes things even worse because the core fans who want to give some feedback can't do it anywhere but here.
>HoloEN is just lazy
HoloEN desperately needed a new gen for a long time. People were asking for it almost a year ago. Not only they didn't get that but instead got 8 homofaggots no one asked for it.

>> No.49869470

>>49866717
stop coping sister
there is a reason nobody is watching your faggots

Only. Men. Are. Watching. Vtubers.

>> No.49870631
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49870631

>>49854666
Not many people supporting the cause these days I guess

>> No.49871210

>>49853399
Gas numbertrannies
Ridicule numbertranny shitskins
Ban /#/

>> No.49871298

>>49864001
NIU LOVE

>> No.49873527

>>49854666
The cause...

>> No.49873530

>>49853399
Weren't zatsudans like his big buff?

>> No.49873656

>>49873530
It was lol, literally his main thing cuz he is mediocre at games and that is putting it nicely

>> No.49874137

>>49866717
yeah, attention whores seeking orbiters and a Chad who just so happens to be into vtubing.
post tits, roastoid.

>> No.49874378

>>49859809
She's been going menhera recently because she's bad at Apex.

>> No.49874594

>>49874378
Havent she poured endless hours into that game by now? How the fuck aint she any better, is she just simply bad at games?

>> No.49874763

>>49854666
Gotta support the cause, y'know?

>> No.49875397

>>49854666
The cause doko??

>> No.49876478
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49876478

>>49853399
3 more streams of Kronii+Mori pussy coming up to save him just wait for it

>> No.49876987

>>49853399
Kronii-sama please... A collab or two...

>> No.49877282

>>49876987
Just 1 whiff of that pussy juice... eh I mean 1 collab please Kronii-senpai!

>> No.49877832

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

>> No.49877970
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49877970

An entire gen of the most fucking boring people imaginable who aren't even the protagonists of their own channels. Nobody cares about a side character, sharts and a collab will never fix that. Establish yourself

>> No.49883556

>>49869470
Keep coping incel kun

>> No.49883741

>>49861714
You are not embarassed dude?

>> No.49883786

>>49859791
>Nijishitter suddenly forgets the concept of raiding
Just as a reminder, raids are what's saving Aia and Aster from becoming literal 2views.

>> No.49883804

>>49864843
Retard

>> No.49883894

>>49863417
With or without Tempus you or vt still a faggot dramawhores

>> No.49884004
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49884004

https://files.catbox.moe/j4cndz.JPG
https://files.catbox.moe/8l593h.mp3

>> No.49884723

>>49874594
>autistic about apex in 2019 and get good
>stop playing apex in 2021 after nijien debut
>game changes, war never changes, skills recline
>tries to get back into competitions, realizes she is not as good as she was/zoomers cannot compete with gen alpha kids who totally autistic and focused on this one thing
>gets dunked on by 10 year olds
>loses her shit

>> No.49885161

>>49862015
Normalfags should stay out of anime, they fundamentally don't understand it, watch entry level shit and then say stupid things like "wow this would be great at the bar". Just stay in your bar, watching 'the game' with your smelly alcoholic friends, okay?

>> No.49885280

>>49884004
Blessed be thy nut

>> No.49886167

>>49884723
lmao thats sad

>>49884004
based

>> No.49888694

Country roooooooads
Take me hooooooome
To the two views
Where I belong
South Korea
Menhera Mommas
Take me home
Country roads

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