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Coco Kaichou thread.Kiryu-Kai is forever!
If Towa didn't have her incident at the beginning, or Luna had a better departure from her past, 4th gen might have more cohesive collabs from the start. From here on out, I'll try to support 4th gen as a whole more, hope that's what Kaichou would've wanted.
>>4978971Hopefully we'll see a lot more gen4 off collabs because they were there anyway to visit Coco
>>4978971There were two months between Towa's debut and her incident. The issue with her was that she was busy with real life things at the beginning of her activity which also meant having a normal sleeping schedule.
>>4978752Good fucking riddance.
ill miss her...
>>4978847Is Luna in denial or something? Real question.
>>4980151yeah, she refused to believe it wasnt some kind of joke
>>4980151She probably is. It's understandable since she's been feeling overwhelmed by singing/dancing practice and she doesn't really have time digesting it. Marine seemed to be taking it well though.
After she graduated, will her member-only videos be free real estate for clipping?
>>4980512They'll be gone three months after her graduation. They technically won't be deleted, but the channel will be demonetized and membership will be disabled as a result, removing everyone's access to the videos.
I hadn't had the time to watch the Coco booze stream. I actually shouldn't be watching it right now - it's playing while I work -, but I work alone on Saturdays so it doesn't matter.Anyway, holy fuck, it was decided 3 months ago?! Was it after they gave spanners to the bugs and Kanata had to run in to help?
>>4980704She kinda repeated what she said on the members' stream.
Will we ever get that ring fit stream?
>>4980871I did watch the members stream live tho, and I don't remember her mentioning the 3-month thing.
>>4980704Bugs definitely plays the part but the decision comes after they swatted the bug problems semi successfully. I'm more inclined to believe what she's saying that it is largely a creative differences and the direction of what she wants to be as a entertainer and what cover wants. Ironically Cover seems to be a bit more lax on what kind of content their talent can produce after the deal is signed between them and Coco.
>>4980389She will probably be off to join Coco soon anyway
>>4980704>Was it after they gave spanners to the bugs and Kanata had to run in to help?That was in February. About 3 months ago was the first time I can remember her outright saying she isn't allowed to do Asacoco rather than dancing around the question. Also said she had other show ideas that were denied.
>>4981146Yep. This is when Kanata brought in the switch as well. Probably pushing Coco to try out more games that she might enjoy
Watching Nene's concert kinda lessened the pain and sadness I felt towards Coco departing.
>>4981000That is depressing to read
>>4981146In the end, did we ever find out what kind of idea for a shows she had that were denied?
>>4981253I don't think we will ever know. But the time also coincides with Pekora's 1 million idea and Marine million yen's project getting canned which resulted their breakdown as well. If Cover does not learn their massive error after losing one of the most iconic vtuber of all time then they deserve to fail.
>>4978752I haven't watched full streams with her. What are some kino EOP coco streams? Which meme reviews are watchable?
>>4980976It will be a mass exodus if they didn't light up. The talents themselves are quite vocal behind the scenes like Towa and Suisei. Polka plays it coy but she was probably able to assert her thoughts as well. Lamy rants on stream and a manager gets fired. Imagine what the older ones can do. I remember too that this is when a surge of job openings showed up.
>>4981352Cocopanish is kino. Minecraft too. And anything collab-related. And Coco Mama Bar... fuck...Last meme review with Kanata, Towa and Luna was great. Others that jump to mind are Pekora, Subaru and Polka. And Mori if you're into hard cringe.
>>4981352Meme review faves of mine are Pekora, Okayu, Subaru, Matsuri, Miko, Polka (some were funny), Korone, the 4th gen, and Rushia. I'm hopeful Ame will be better. Shion I expect will be a troll so I want to watch that.
>>4981356Cover should never forget that they should put their talent's priority at the very top and always try to create an environment where all they have to focus is to create an entertaining content and projects. Denying their creativity because of the company's inability to deal with conflict is the absolute worst thing you can do and it is a complete antithesis of what makes Hololive popular in the first place.
>>4981091Don't say that.
>>4981654Sometimes you need to die to begin living.
Does she ever say anything about that cursed statue thing in her room?
>>4981352If what you want is something you can enjoy as an EOP you need to check out Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes with her, Haato, and Marine. They did it twice and both streams are good but the one from February 2020 is particularly great. The two big group collabs hosted by Haato and her from around the same time were incredibly funny too.
>>4981707The thinker/baphomet thing? iirc someone gifted it to her in a birthday stream. Marine, maybe?
>>4981352All of the other recommendations anons have made are solid, but if you want a sense also of what makes people respect Coco, look up the fully-translated stream of her and Aqua on the Raft. Coco is just finally getting more confident in her Japanese, at the time, and is talking to Aqua after Aqua had some major drama, and is still recovering from it. This is only 4 months after her debut, and she is already trying to help her senpai keep things in perspective:https://youtu.be/jEP-paRxWKA
>>4981843There's also the one where she calms Watame's numberfagging. And all the bar advices.Not to mention all the times the other members, though maybe mainly Watame, mentioned how much she has helped them, either by promoting them in Asacoco or behind the scenes.All the shitflinging between amher and Kanatan is also top notch.
>>4981253I don't remember her ever saying, but knowing Coco, it's probably some sort of Hololive highlight//clip/skit/variety -type shows.
Hey mikoboat here, we're holding an aggie for Kiryu Coco! Please come and pay your respects if you want!https://aggie.io/nblov_jrwg
>>4981707There's no specific meaning to it. She started with an empty room background and told fans to draw things to fill it with. She stopped adding more very early though.
its cant watch other streams right now. everyone smiling trying to keep the show going since theyve had months to process and prepare for this but its only been days for us so it feels weird to me
Marine is drawing Coco right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzcPLH4FNsM
>>4982302Anon. It's also just been days for them. Everyone was hopeful she won't push through. During those 3 months, the girls were actively trying to change her mind. It's not real not unless she sets a date. Just watch Suisei. Up until now, she is still mixed about it. Watame, cried like her dad abandoned her again after watching the announcement because now it's real. Even fucking Botan couldn't keep it straight. I bet Cover dragged it far enough to make her change her mind. Like "see! See! I can chaaannggee!!!" But nah. She still wants divorce.
>>4982814Fubuki is the only one to appear to really have come to terms with it. Which made it very grating for the first couple days.
https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1403685978653401088Stream at 23:00
>>4982961Fubuki has to appear strong because even if she broke down then the entire Hololive will collapse. It's an insane burden.
>>4982962due to work i will miss this stream live. have fun
>>4983061She will eventually cry. I'm sure of it. Maybe a day after July 1st. She's always like this. For the MK tournament, she cried on her free talk stream after it.
>>4983073I'm working and watching yesterday's stream anon. And this one in an hour and a half.Unlike yesterday, I don't have meetings in the middle though. Just 10 hours of excel sheets in front of me.
>she's gonna upload a voice pack and give permission to use it in videosI mean, I fucking love it, but you should watch The Cancerless Jim Show and then decide what power you give your fans, Kaicho.
https://www.bilibili.com/read/mobile?id=11679968Guess coco is right, there still is actual and logical fans left in bilibili, not much but something.
after a few days of soul searching I think the thing that made me the most sad and angry is that I couldnt protect that smile
https://twitter.com/Hecatiaz/status/1402468199354933253This is the one thing that pisses me off more than anything. Artia and the Chinese Bitches can't let go that their Lost their jobs, and are still saggy cunts and smacktalking Coco as she decides to leave
gatta gatta gatta
LET'S GOOOOOOKITE OKITE OKITE OKITE OKITE KUDASAI NE
I love this singing bitch.
I wonder if she’ll ever do another unarchived karaoke before she goes. I missed the last one and I’m pretty sure it’s been a while.
https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1403715694873645057She'll be attending coco's live on July 1st.I hope haachama picks herself up. I don't think I can deal with two graduations.
I hope we get that KanaCoco karaoke stream...
I want Coco to sit on my face
>>4987897I got the impression that the members knew for a month or longer that Coco was leaving but didn’t really feel it until she made the announcement and set a hard date (hence why even Botan cried on stream). Hachama was the other member that got swept up in the whole incident so I imagine she took the news just as hard, but in a different way. I’ve heard she’s been doing entrance exams for college, which could explain wanting to take a break from this job, but I don’t know for certain.
ETERNAL WINDHer voice is so beautiful for this song
I'm crying again
BASILISK TIME LEEETTSSSS GGGOOOOOO!!!!!!
Basilisk is her best song, been that way for a long time.
She’s improved so much bros.....I hope Suisei takes her to karaoke even after all this is over.
>>4988467jesus that song was too sad, too powerful it's perfect but painful
>>4989158She mentioned Tegami, if she sang that song again i would have probably closed the stream.
WEATHER HACKERS TIME
GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS
She needs to finish her last live concert with this song. Imagine the emotions people would go through.
ouch my eyes
Weather Hacker official mv confirmed.
Secret base?!She wants to cry.
>secret baseFUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
I guess it's time to lie down and be sad for a while
Secret Base is such a good song
>open stream>it's secret base>start crying
Reminder: She will be gone forever in a few weeks. So treasure this moment.
>>4990422She said she is coming back to us in 500 years. She won't lie would she?
Remember how long she was training her singing, and how terrible it was at first?She really did come a long way since then.
>>4990422I wonder if she'll still sing sometimes
>>4990519She seems to thoroughly enjoy it, so I would assume she'd even stream singing on her other account once the drama has died down a bit.
Tsuki no mayuFuck I love this song too
I can't take it manIt's too much
Hope i can find a quality archive afterwards...
>>4990472After that first member stream, I was pretty convinced she'd come back sometime next year. After the public talking stream, I was convinced she's never coming back. Who knows. Treasure what you have now, and archive, archive, archive.
>>4990872This stream will be archived
>>4990289Not like this
>>4990872>>4990911I had to bail too, its just too much right now. I'm just now starting to be able to watch regular streams. Way too much emotion in the songs. I'm hoping for a proper torrent or mega archive, just in case.
>>4990911Oh thanks for telling me i wasnt sure if it was or not cannot check myself thank you
>>4990902I don't see how she could know when. She said it's not impossible on her end, but the conditions for it to happen don't seem likely.
>>4990902If Cover does a 180 and gives their talent creative freedom again she'll be back, but they're big and getting bigger so that isn't gonna happen.
>>4990989Better open the stream again, she's going to sing uninstall, she absolutely nails that song, i actually preffer her cover over the original
What are the odds of the zhangs holding interest in their next target after Coco? You think it'll be as big?
>>4991094Yeah, I ment the conditions sounded different to me between the two streams. Like it was possible for things to clear up the way I understood them at first, but now I dont think they will.
>>4991155They probably think they got both Coco and Chaamers right now, so they're probably riding high and will go hard after fubuki.
>>4990864Stay Positive, anon
>>4991155It's been proven they want fubuki next, dunno why it isn't kanata but it sucks no matter who cops itMy best hope they drop off like they always do when its literally not coco but I got a feeling they feel empowered by her leaving
>>4991155One group of the Coco spammers was specifically Coco antis who like the rest of Hololive, and the other is anti-Hololive in general. So the spam will continue but be smaller, and there may be a zhang civil war which should be interesting.
>>4991147I did, and now the tears are flowing again. I do love this bitch.
>>4990902This is what made me relapse kind of hard from acceptance to sadness again i had convinced myself she could come back then after the regular talking stream seemed to kill that notion since i know cover will never bend as its only getting bigger...
Is she gonna read supachas?I send a small one yesterday but I dont think she had the time to read it
>>4991286>It's been proven they want fubuki next, dunno why it isn't kanata but it sucks no matter who cops itThey are still butthurt from Fubuki being the first obe to give the middle finger to the zhangs, they also made all kind of retarded narratives about her embezzling all the money she got from bili
>>4991429She said yesterday that even if she doesn't read them all on-stream but will read them all off-stream
>>4991446>embezzling all the money she got from biliHoly shit, are insects that delusional?
>>4991446they really are fucking weirdos aren't they but her spam isn't as consistent as coco's spam
>>4991521>are insects that delusional?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHsGO8a8WOE
>>4991512I mean thats great and all but I wanted to clip her reading something in particular for... reasons.Anyway will there even be another chance to send a supacha that she could read?
>>4991680Of course, she'll probably be streaming almost everyday.
>>4991680You can keep trying every stream, I guess.Dunno if she's gonna make a dedicated SC reading stream with how packed her schedule is.
>>4990902>>4991099She's going to start her own company and overtake cover, show them they were wrong and either buy them out or mergethey've already laid the groundwork for playing multiple characters with Kurokami, Coco Kaine etc
>>4991779>She's going to start her own company and overtake coverit's a nice thought, anon, and i guess she's got nico and that site she streams on, but, like, overtake cover outside of youtube? and if oh she'll still b on youtube then she's going to need lawyers and she still wont be able to do the content she wants to do
I guess the annoying orange-haired v-tuber is gone for good.Shame, would've wanted to see her collab with her western predecessor.
At least her last song is a positive one. I think I'm feeling better now.
She's actually good bros, it's amazing. I'm crying.
>>4992477Watching her grow this much was a treasure, and it only hurts that I wont be able to see more.
>>4992085She's going to make her own company like cover except not retardeddont be surprised to see a lot of current hololive talent move over to her new companyI know you're new but this is just the same thing that happened with upd8
>>4991721>>4991767Huh well I wonder if now is a good time to do it or I should just do it earlier next stream
FUCK i missed some minutesWho is she talking about right now
>>4992693and i just don't think it's possible on youtube. fuck, nevermind trying to beat copyright claims on your own, channels just randomly getting fucking deleted, kiara even later just lost weeks of videos because ???, demonitization for no reason, one of the niji ens just failed that somehow, and what the fuck did suisei get flagged for? this would take all your time. you pretty much have to laywer up and be a part of a company, which she can start i guess, and hire i guess, but, man, i dunno. so then we get all of that out of the way and oh yeah she still has tow the line of california. she can go somewhere else i guess, but, like, you're never gonna get the reach. biggest thing on bitchute, oh boy
>>4993108Her recording session. How Luna was... clingy. How she was supposed to have 3 hours of takes, but she's been training at home so she only took one.
>>4993234Sounds like classic Kaichou, always going above expectations
>Luna: "I don't want this nanora~">Coco: "Come on, it's not like I'm dying">Luna: "ARE YOU GONNA DIE? NORA~"I love this bebi
>>4993213Streamlabs ad reminder.
I realized i'm actually okay when she's streaming, even if i cry.The hard part is when the stream ends and i have to go through what's left of the day trying to not think about her only to fail every couple of minutes.
Just a thought i just had, imagine if coco followed management and actually didnt had told anything to the other holomembers until that announcement...Feels like things would be like 100x worse, fuck mngt
>>4996065That's such an out-of-touch request, it's like they don't know how close Coco is with so many holos, she could never betray her friends like that.
>go to parents house for the weekend>"hey anon! you look sad, did something happened?">going through every possible explanation in my head that doesn't make me sound like a retarded weeb>"It's nothing, mom, i'm staying positive">she's not convince>she cooks me my favorite foodHave you tried explaining coco's graduation to someone who isn't into vtubers? what did they say?
>>4996220I just hold it in as best as I could
>>4996220I only told my girlfriend because i live with her and i don't really had an option given how broken i am.She knows how much i love Coco even if she doesn't enjoy vtubers she still cares about them, even more so for Coco who she always saw as someone who innovates, pushes forward and breaks norms, especially for women in japan.
>>4991147>she's going to sing uninstallfrom bokurano?
>>4996451Yeah, she already sang it a couple of times before, it really suits her voice.
>>4996220I dont have anyone irl to confide my feelings to, i wish i did. My online friends who are somewhat into vtubers were shocked a bit but have all kind of moved past it yet im still devastated so it feels like im alone in my feelings
>>4996220>>4996433>>4996832Even if you dont have people irl to confide, this thread and the people here will always be here
>>4996220I held back because I knew there was no way anyone could understand. These threads have been a great help
>>4996220I think some things are just best left kept to yourself. Not everything has to be explained to normalfags around you
Me a few days after the announcement and today's news. I don't know if I can make it to July 1st without having a mental breakdown.
>>4996220Told my rents and my boss how my favorite "youtuber", whose channel I'm a member of and of whom I've bought merch - someone I highly respect and admired, had announced her retirement. Mainly for political reasons relating to China. Told my parents because they saw me down, and my boss because I changed all my social media pictures to Coco or tatsunoko-related stuff and he asked (I've had an angry Popuko avatar in the company's gsuite account for a couple years, and I changed it to that one Bkub pic of Coco pointing a gun at the viewer. Though I did crop the gun out).Got vacations for the 7/1 week. Mum's getting ready for my incomimg hepatic coma.
>>4998095Coco isn't even my oshi but the news hit me hard and left me devastated for two days. I even rescheduled all the stuff I had to do for the rest of the month to watch and treasure each one of her remaining streams. I'll be ready to break down completely again the 1st of July but until then I'll enjoy Coco month while it lasts as she's making an enormous effort to share all the time she's got left with us.
SELECT YOUR CHARACTER
I guess I'll add to the thread praise pile. I'm certainly not going to try and explain to everyone why I'm constantly on the verge of tears over a anime looking dragon girl vtuber retiring, but seeing people talk about how they're in the same place I am on these threads has helped me at least get part that bit of guilt you feel for feeling so upset over something so relatively unimportant. I'd probably be in a much worse place right now than I am if it wasn't for these threads.
>>4982961>>4983061>>4983142Fubuki cried when she learned her nijisanji friend was graduating. It was also captured live. I think FBK vents offline, so she can keep her composture while online. I admire our friend because of this.
>>5000387Who was it?
I explained to an online friend after I blew up at people hearing about it then finding out about her roommate and deciding they wanted to follow her because she's hot regardless of their disinterest before, my friend understood and got upset about it, but that's because they follow a lot of twitch
>>4980908Do it faggot.
>>4981356>Lamy rants on stream and a manager gets firedWait really?
Do we know anything about the event? Is it going to be 3D? I need to prepare myself...
>>4981356>Polka plays it coy but she was probably able to assert her thoughts as well.For some reason it always seemed like Polka had more support from management when compared to other vtubers, not just 5gen
>>5000988Isn't she a friend of Yagoo?
>>5000808Yeah, her original manager got replaced after they told her that she wasn't really compatible with any of her senpai and should hold back on collabs for the time being, and that's why they were re-assigned to the bottom of Tokyo Bay with nice pair of shoes included. You just don't mess with the yakuza princess elf.
>>5001056I have a strong suspicion that she got her place due to nepotism. But she's still cool though. She reeks of female otaku fat girl chuuni energies but she's fun to watch still. However it was kinda puzzling to see how she got Yagoo to call her, or have generally more support from mangement than any other idol at the moment, even older ones.
>>5000988>>5001416Polka is getting her l2d update tomorrow btw
>>5001416nepotism =/= cronyism
https://youtu.be/hVMa9M1Bjkw?t=246Remember that time Korone cried before Among Us? i always knew it was because she felt bad for Coco.Hell, i remember watching the JP clip she's talking about and the first thing i thought was "Damn, i hope Coco doesn't see this", she's the kind of person that would blame herself for it.Every time i see a holomen talk about Coco's graduation i get the same feeling, being an inconvenience to her friends and seeing them get hurt just because she interacts with them played a large part in her decision.>I'm not leaving to protect others, i'm leaving to protect myself.Yes, because others being hurt, hurts you too, even if she knows it's not her fault, she still blames herself for it.
>>5001812please, anon, let me have at least one night of peaceful sleep :(>>5001788that might be, i was thinking of cronyism as well. polka did have a streaming past, like almost everyone in hololive.i still wonder where did subaru come from. she's clearly not a rookie, even though cover keeps trying to sell her as the "lucky one"
>>5001056>>5001416yagoo was a fan of her previous life and invited her to join HL with the promise that they didnt treat their members poorly
>>5002005now we know Yagoo is the Asian Architect
>>5001959Subaru has discussed that in the past, she's just a rando that decided to try out on a whim and fell into success
Anybody else gonna be singing Bakamitai and/or playing an unhealthy amount of Yakuza after July 1?
>>5002385I played the first few chapters of Yakuza 0 last year. Gonna continue it the day after Kaichou's graduation. Hope I don't spend 5 hours playing Mahjong and Bowling again.
>>5002385I got started with Yakuza 0 the week before the announcement, but now the rest of the playthrough will be in memory of her.
>Needs a background for TV program>Use Kaichou's announcement poster, because why not>?????Is this a message?https://youtu.be/xW63r0hq9qc?t=722
>>5002385I haven't played video games in years, and now I want to play the Yakuza games.
>>5003805I have no idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im-PJY-0tygYeah, there's a chance she'll be back someday
I was listening to Dan Carlin's latest Hardcore History, and at some point he talks about the Japanese divebombers at the Battle of Midway, he said they were called Kyūkōka in moonrunes, but he really pronounced it like Kiryu Coco.brehs...
https://twitter.com/hololive_notify/status/1403778034184949765?s=21She’s in our heart, literally.
>>5003805It is, look at the comments. The channel hearted and pinned a comment with the timestamp and "Kiryukai invasion evidence" and they're hearting a bunch of other comments with messages of support for Coco and the Kiryu-kai.
Today too posters above my head are making gatagata noises.
>>5000387lol, FBK was disguising her sobbings with laughter during her DK3 stream after Coco announcement, she even had to stop the stream a couple of times
>>5001959I wouldn'tknow how to tell you about Subaru's pastexcept for what >>5002229 said without getting b&'d,though I'm sure some sitesought to have the mostgeneral info about it.That said though, even such sites only have a character. Not a reak face dox.
>>5005350What's up with your format here anon
>>5002055Saviorfagging whales all around the world. From Matsuri and Polka to gacha whales like Fubuki and Suisei, to international whales like Polka.I still don't blame Yagoo for this bullshit, and place the blame squarely in the bbug-infested board.
>>5005473Just being a quirky faggot, don't look too deep into it.
>>5004998And I won't ever stop ;_;
>>5005555lmao, that's fucking hilarious anon but i'm sure nobody would have ever noticed unless you posted that image
>>5000988at some point In the past, Polka was bigger that any holos, maybe Yagoo was a fan
>>4981331They should deserve it for making (me) feel this way. I will schizo until management dogeza live on stream.
>>5005830"Let's all do our best for today!"I always loved when she wrote that.
watched the clip where coco talks to watame when watame was talking about her sub count not being good and she changes her perspective on it all... the guy who translated it newest video and its description, another fan hit hard and i can see why, all he ever translated was coco clips bless him for taking that time to do them and i hope hes doing well
>>5006353He was the best EN Coco clipper for a long time, quite literally the only one for half a year that ever bothered to translate moments that truly describe Coco as a person instead of the usual asacoco drug jokes or english classes with other holos.
>>4999656>>4998597>>4998095>>4997080I've had chest pain, loss of apetite, and inability to sleep (even with meds) since the announcement. I-I'm not alone right anons...?Sorry for poking fun at all you nerds in the past. Never thought I was ever such a fag
>>5006463And as i posted this, something came through my mind.I think clipping can be dangerous, it's quite obvious that those chinese that hated Coco and attacked her for so long didn't know her at all.Clips are a double-edged sword, they can help you rise up in popularity, more people will watch your streams and know you as a person, but at the same time, those who just watch a few clips and never give you the time of the day again will forever have a very narrow view of yourself, and given the clipbait nature of clipping, probably a negative one.
>>5005621who was Polka previously and why did she even bother to join Hololive then?Or are we not allowed to say
>>5006887Don't mind me, just posting a clip.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNPFSYmsAU
>>5006758This is why we don't respect clipfags around here.
>>5006722its alright I didnt think i'd be hit this hard either anon, i had to take sleeping meds for the first couple days to calm my nerves. appetite still isnt back but the waves of sadness are receding. acceptance comes at different rates but the fact shes here for about 3 weeks still means itll probably just come back again after the 1st for me when it all sinks in once more. Just have to get through it again if thats the case.
>>5006722I wasn’t as big a coco fan as some of the people on here but I liked her a lot. I’ve been in a pretty depressed funk the last few days, especially with seeing the other girls reacting to her announcement and Haachama’s hiatus. It’s nice to have somewhere to talk about it.
>>5007006Nice thanks. I wonder what made her switch if she was doing so well.
Is she grooming Maciel?
>>5007978草Maybe, it's actually crazy how much of her art she used on both channels plus her twitter header.I can understand why though, she's a great artist, one of my favorites, i would probably use her for all my thumbnails too.
Last night's karaoke was the best one yet. She's improved so much. Hopefully her roommate starts singing.
>>5007155>>5007171Thank you, fellow anons. Not my oshi either. Was just a tourist newfag who got in thru EN. Watched her and chama to spite antis. Stayed for their charms (this was also the moment I learned anime reps does pay off). Started watching more and more JP as part of reps.I watched her learn minecraft for the sports festival. I watched the last few Asacoco, and the reddit meme from that point. I watched her built her house. I watch her join UsaKen and learning more about minecraft. I watched her gather materials, and construction of Sad Yagoo. And now I'm watching every stream she appears in until the very end.This is despite knowing about her roommate since December. How dumb is thattl;dr im a fag
>>5006722That first day I definitely had some chest pain, as well my limbs feeling hot, as well as the loss of apetite, and not being able to sleep. I really do wonder if anyone is actually going to die from this, or if I am on the 1st. Doing a lot better now, but you know everything's coming back 10 fold then.
>>5002385I haven't played or watched Yakuza, which one of Coco's playthroughs should I start with?
>>5002385Following >>5009796 and >>5004027, I want to play them, and I've gathered (just from comments on here on /vt/) there's a difference in release order versus chronological order? Is there a recommended order I should play them in?
>>5010571The usual recommendation is to play Zero first (it's a prologue to the story)Then Kiwami 1 & 2 (they remake the first two games)Then pick up the remastered collection for the rest of the series.After that switch back to the normal releases for Yakuza 6 and Like a Dragon.
>>5010756Thank you, Anonymous!
>>5010756>The usual recommendation is to play Zero first (it's a prologue to the story)Coco advised PekoMiko against it, if only they listened her, Miko dropped Yakuza after Kiwami 2 and Pekor went from 0 & 1 to Yakuza 7.>>5010778Majima's change from 0 to 1 will probably shock you a bit, for some people it's enough to drop the series.0 is easily the best game too, everything else except 7 will seem inferior.
>>5010911Yeah, I guess it depends on what you want to do. Follow Kazuma's story from start to finish, knowing older games will have some jank, or just have fun with the best version of the formula.If you don't want to devote hundreds of hours in playing them, Zero and 7 will give you most of what the series has to offer.
>>5010911It's a real shame the PS3 HD version of 1&2 never made it into English because that's the best way to start the series without digging out your old PS2 or having to use an emulator. Kiwami 1 and 2 are very good remakes but going from basically the combat of 0 and 6 to 3's is a real shock to the system. And like you said, not just Peko and Miko but I have a ton of friends who played 0 first and loved it but then couldn't get into the rest of the series.
>>5011289So would the alternative recommendation be to play Kiwami 1 & 2, then 0, then the rest?
Kaichou watching PPT get bodied in monhun
sorry for using this place as a diarypost but fuck i dont have anywhere else i feel i can post my thoughts, i was feeling good enough to watch another holo again, so i tuned into koro playing sonic, she was having fun i was feeling good and even ended up falling asleep to her stream. then i fucking had a dream about kaichou where i kept trying to ask her the reasons she left the exact reasons and i dont remember what she was saying but it wasnt answers. i feel like i just want real answers and not the corpo wishywashy answers, answers that probably wont ever come out for possibly years since im pretty sure coco doesnt want to hurt cover lest it hurts hololive where she has friends that still work. again sorry for treating this place like a diary but i went from feeling acceptant to breaking down again
>>5015387See it this way, she's couldn't have made it more clear that she's leaving the door open to coming back some day.The fact that she can't exactly tell all the reasons for leaving gives me hope that some of them could be fixed in the future.
I took a dose of Asacoco whey, what about you?
>>5015519idk anon ive already come to terms she will likely never come back if her current stated reasons are any reflection of the truth. Cover grows and so do restrictions and its not where she wants to be and feels shes essentially forced out by way of the companys direction that wont bend. For such things to change in a direction that favors her return i feel like cover would have to stagnate or recline heavily but as far as I can tell theyre still growing and so will the restrictions. Her slaying the manager rrat was essentially my final cope to realizing shes actually just gone besides being kanatans actual roommate.
>>5015737She said she still hopes to sing live on stage with Sora one day, and that she genuinely believes her dream will come true.I'll continue to cope with a possible return someday because i don't think restrictions are the only reason for her to leave.
you tards deserve this.this is why you don't get invested in 3dpd.
>>5001349What the fuck kind of advice is that even holy shit.That shit mind you after gen5 had to deal with the aloe fallout.I think we might have to come up with a new term to describe the levels of incompetence at play here.
>>5015859i saw this but i just chalked it up to maybe they can contract her for a special appearance not an actual return
Man that karaoke today was amazing. I hope this dispels ANY feeling of self-consciousness that Kaichou has about her singing ability. Any at all.I added Weather Hackers to my workout playlist, but I had to pause each time at the end... I still can't hear the final "ikou gebokawa sumairu de" without tearing up. This is going to be a process. One day I'll be able to listen to that, and smile for sure. One day, but not today.
>>5016307Cover seems to have an issue with managers who don't know what they're doing.Mel's harassment from her own manager is one of the bigger issues that people know about.Another one is Subaru's former manager, who mismanaged her events to the point where she broke down on stream when Mio visited her.Luckily, Subaru's new manager seems pretty cool.
>>5015859The door has definitely been left open for a possible return, but I can’t imagine it’ll be anytime soon. On paper it seems like she’s on good terms with Cover so perhaps she’ll still work there in some capacity to have a foot in the door. When considering her roommate I’d wager she’ll be fine income wise anyways since she had a pre-established fanbase there plus a sudden massive influx in the past few days.
>>5017051Yeah, seeing how much better she became as a singer is admirable.Remember, the first time she ever sang in front of anyone was as Coco, she said so a few months ago in one of her milestone streams, and the difference is like night and day, and we could all see the progress throughout the year.It shows how seriously she took her work as an idol, not just a streamer.
>>5017100They put all their stats into recruiting talents that they end up hiring shit managers.
>>5010911>0 is easily the best game too, everything else except 7 will seem inferiorI cannot express how true this statement is. I have played 0, Kiwami 1&2, then 3&4 and honestly 0 set my standards too high. If you start with 0 and go in the order I did, it is a decline with the fall from Kiwami 2 to Yakuza 3 being akin to falling off a cliff gameplay wise. Honestly considered dropping the series after 3 and 3 left such a bad taste that it ruined 4 for me.
>>5017100It is odd to say the least. Yagoo has been confirmed by numerous sources to be directly involved in hiring the talent since the start, resulting in memes of him have a god eye in that regard. Is he a part of the hiring process for managers? Did he min max his ability to finding good employees to just cute girls to be vtubers while ignoring all other positions? Maybe he was a talent agent in another life, cause for all the criticism to throw at Cover the hiring process for the girls seems really solid.
I'm sure he had and still has a say in the hiring process, but he's likely not involved like before. Hololive exploded in popularity, which is still causing a lot of problems. Meanwhile they're also expanding their reach beyond the 3D and livestream medium with Alternative so they're being spread quite thin.
>actual meme in the guess who part>the joke isn’t half badI’ve always liked Meme Review but the memes honestly have never truly been the appeal. Ame’s fanbase really buffed them in that regard.
lol is coco drunk today? shit pretty funny tho
This Reddit Shitpost Review is absolutely kino. Wish we could have more collabs between these two...
>>5022644She's unfiltered and having fun with someone new who's willing to play along with her. This is what management was keeping from us for 9 months.
Coco passing on important knowledge to Ame
I imagine many of these memes are made by Ame’s fans. Real high quality stuff, at least in comparison to the usual. I suppose not having to explain them lets her just pick whatever.
As sad as I am that she's graduating soon, having nothing to lose is basically giving Coco more power than ever and it's giving me life.
This is peak content. Plugged Ina. Amazing
>>5007155I'm honestly moved by how wholesome this thread is. It's night and day from the day after the announcement. The China rrat isn't even being brought up, and people are supporting each other and being wholesome here... holy shit. Kaichou actually taught us well. We are a family. May best doragon live forever! Now all I need is a stiff drink so I can enjoy how based and unfiltered Coco is being now that she knows she has nothing to fear anymore. :,)
>>5001812Coco is just following her husband's example and disappearing to protect the people she loves. At least we know she has very manly, golden-voiced company in the criminal underworld she's retiring to. ;)
>>4980581We have archivers on that shit right?
>>5008925I know we'll make it... I just wish we didn't have to worry about this at all.
>>5026696ive already archived her entire membership portfolio that was visible to me, it was only 23 videos i think, i might have skipped one or two ill have to sift back through it later been archiving the rest of her channel over the last couple days only like 130/760 videos in so far but i should have it all before the 1st easily. I know she said itll all be there after shes gone but part of me just doesnt trust cover or permissions for some stuff they played to stayanyways i need to sleep after that meme review my favorite EN and JP had good time together a shame the only collab theyll ever have is that one
>>5005598Now I dont get to feel like a sherlock holmes type for solving it
is this really the last meme review?the last one?
>>4993213It's an awkward situation. YouTube has certainly taken the "You" out of it and should rightly be called "CorpTube" these days, surely no one but large corporations have the reach to actually protect their shit on the platform anymore. Even car channels have gotten nuked from orbit and the very nature of the content ensures it's all completely original.While there is clearly an opening for a more independent/user focused platform to grow and replace YouTube for independently user generated content, the few platforms that start building an audience inevitably run into issues getting noticed because Google owns the search engine everyone uses and intentionally buries the alternative platform so it can't gain traction.
>>5027407There is still 1 saturday left, 2 if she's enough of a madlass to do a last review 3 days before her graduation
>>5027407there is 2 more, one will likely be the Shion one we never got if Shion decides to come out of wherever she is. Last one is TBD
>>5027407probably nobut definitely the first and last AmeCoco
>>5028513Her Everything stream made me realize there are updates to the game since I last played it.
>>5005350Unless I'm missing something, why couldn't you say it? She had a heart disease as a child and almost died, she was in a undescribed 'accident' that she almost died in, her house burned down, and even though she's ill, she needed to work at a very young age to help her family. Am I missing something really bad? Why would this get you banned>In B4 ban
>>4978752KEEP ASIAN HATE!
>>4996220Been down at work, boss gave me the week off, due anyways. Co-worker knows of her and said to just watch her to the end, no regrets. Sent a physical letter thanking her for everything, I hope she gets it in time
>See clip of Coco saying she regrets never meeting fans who genuinely and romantically loves herShe had to mean IRL right? I refuse to believe out of 1 million people at least one didn't profess some deluded sense of love.
>>5030981Not sure what moment exactly that clip would be about but sounds to me like it's the running gag she has about her having 0 gachikoi fans.
>>5030981I'm sure there are people who genuinely see her in a romantic way but I'm pretty sure massive majority of her tatsunokos feels admiration and true friendship towards her. A completely platonic relationship.
>>5034343Guys, find a girl who will hold you the way Coco holds a bat.
>>5030981Its a joke that runs on her stream that she has 0 gachikoi fans
https://youtu.be/z8FcD3YH9nYsome news outlet used her graduation poster as background kek
>>5006722Same here and I also thought it wouldn't hit me this way.I decided to throw all shame away and just try to enjoy her the fullest while she's there so that I have no regrets, then go back to normal.I thought superchats were dumb. But during the last talking stream I just sent one in Japanese (more of a funny one), to not regret never having done it later. Her answer to it made me feel a lot better, since my message of support could reach her and make her laugh. I feel like such a pathetic loser just typing this, but who cares.What still makes me tear up if the reactions of the other girls or even some of the fan projects. It's kind of touching to see how many people love her.Part of me is also a bit disappointed in the girls though. They probably did their best for Japanese standards, but as someone who likes to say "sometimes you have to force someone to their luck", meaning, most of the time the person themselves doesn't know what the right action to find happiness is, and often they are misguided due to only having a limited point of view. You sometimes have to force them to do something that they might even think is a mistake initially, to help them get back on the right path. It comes a bit from my own experience, where something like this has turned my life completely around, so I'm a bit biased.I still don't know if her move is really correct, but the status quo is also a huge waste of potential. Tbh I also don't want her to return back to being Kson. I want her to do something radical.this ended up being quite a long post for 4chan, especially a shitty sub like /vt/
Image request: Coco and Watame.Last thread was Coco+Kanata, this one is Coco+Luna. I will to make the next thread (assuming I am awake, and no one else has) with a Coco+Watame image. I have only 2 images of that seem like they fit, and I'm not especially in love with either of them. So my request is for teetee images with just Coco and Watame in them.
>>5036477>They probably did their best for Japanese standards, but as someone who likes to say "sometimes you have to force someone to their luck", meaning, most of the time the person themselves doesn't know what the right action to find happiness is, and often they are misguided due to only having a limited point of view. According to most girls who heard her arguments for graduating, she was so convincing about it that they really had no counter arguments to convince her to stay. Mio for example ended up agreeing with her despite how sad the situation is. There's more behind the scenes that we don't know about and that Coco cannot tell us. so it's easy for us with a lack of information to make assumptions. The best they can do is respect her wishes, because they know that she isn't happy this way with how management is now. It's the best way we can go about it too, respect her decision and send her off with a bang.I've been watching her since her debut and fell in love with her chaotic nature, so I know how you feel. I've been hit hard by the news too and I'll be in shambles on July 1st. All we can do is stay positive like she asked us to (fuck you coco it's impossible to stay positive).
she was about to say something about hololive management she was going to regret, wasnt she? Lucky she stopped herself. https://youtu.be/5OgO3PDI3ko?t=3072
>>5036554I'll dump some of my WataCoco folder
Do you think Cover will actually actively go after people if they made a torrent with Coco's members only streams? Or is it OK as long it's not on YouTube? Asking for a friend.
>>5038143I wouldn't think so, if only because they lack the resources to find English-internet torrent archives, and then deal with foreign legal processes. I am making my own backup, but if you wind up producing a torrent I will happily seed.
>>5038172No problem anon, hope you found something good for an OP
>>5037288>because they know that she isn't happy this way with how management is now. Judging from the other girls, they are also very unhappy about how the management operates. Honestly I think they should completely rethink their priorities. Compared to all the controversies they've faced up until now, this is definitely the biggest slap in the face they got.I'm pretty sure the management or the business guys who can read/speak english visits this place and if you're reading this, I can tell you for a fact that keep this kind of draconian management where your talent feels restricted and unable to unleash their creativity and forcing them to play safe and vanilla, you will fall into irrelevancy sooner than later. All of your big projects like concert, holo alt, and all other stuffs are just a complementary contents because the main attraction that appeal to majority of people are their organic interaction between each members and their creative projects. Losing one of the most influential vtuber of all time who are largely responsible for accelerating your growth to the western scene is the single biggest blow to your reputation as a place where your talent can shine. One more loss and I don't think your brand can recover. Feel free to ignore me and call me faggot but deep down you know all of my words here are true.
>>5038234Thanks again! I am about to nap, and will check things in about 3 hours. If I miss making the new thread, I hope someone else is willing to pick a solid WataCoco image so that we can keep the Yonkisei image train rolling.
>>5038143They can potentially sack her for the things she talked about in them - she said not to share what they were talking about in members only.Hide it really well.
>>5037288> All we can do is stay positive like she asked us to yeah basically. I mean I trust her more, to know what she does, compared to the worst part of the whole crisis. Where she was really isolated. She's the VTuber that after the 4 Heavenly Kings including Nojaoji, and after Mito brought the industry to a new level. Obviously not only her, but she played a huge part in it.I'm not necessarily sad that she graduates. I'm sad, that a person that was so important for the industry, was practically blacklisted from it.At the moment > 推しは推せる時に推せis more my motto, right now. I'll do my part to make it the best graduation that any VTuber ever had, until now.
There are two things that still don't sit well with me. Her statements about "protecting her smile" and the "creative differences." Regarding the creative differences, I know she's been blocked from restarting Asacoco a couple of times, but surely she realizes that Cover will still provide more resources and opportunities than going at it alone? Even if some ideas get shot down, eventually one will stick, right? I know she probably cannot talk about it, but some idea as to what she wanted to do might help a lot in dealing with this.Then with the "smile" business. She always seemed happier to me during the smaller 2-4 person collabs than on solo game streams. Even during zatsudans she seemed pretty happy chatting about what her friends did or ate. It feels like she should be doing the opposite of graduating. I don't see how she will be happier streaming alone without the interaction with the other holomembers. It's not like the spam will stop because she leaves, and it's not like she will collab much with anyone because they will still get spammed despite her no longer being a holo. I guess it kind of relies on my perception and the assumption that her happiness stems from working with others, but there seems to be almost no change except her being even more isolated and even more unhappy as a result.
>>5038617Not just asacoco, seems she was being blocked from doing many different things even other talent came up with, she was also completely ghosted when trying to collab with EN, that would make a lot of people lose their smile
>>5038280> draconian management where your talent feels restricted The thing is that kind of stuff works in Japan, because there is quite a huge sense of loyalty. In my own work experience Japanese do what they are told, when it comes from a higher hierarchical level.>>5038617The creative differences part is easy to understand. But the "keeping her simle"-part that's what is bothering me. Watching the recent Kson Zatsudans also made me realize that she basically doesn't that have much to talk about as Kson, because its stuff she isn't allowed to. Its basically just her family, or stuff she bought, etc.It reminds me too much of my solution when I started to get depressive and isolated myself more and more, which just game me more opportunity to dwell in my negative thoughts, until I reached suicidal thoughts. And it is really easy to put up a facade towards others, even if you are at the lowest point emotionally.Maybe that's what makes it hard, because I have bad experience with isolating myself.
>>5038964edit: At the very least Kanata can still barge in if it gets too bad.
>>5038617this is all just cope rrat but I guess by smile I think it meant the fact that she's there means her friends will get punished whenever she's doing something she finds to be fun (collabing with other holomems). Whenever she collabs with other people, their chat will always get infested by filthy bugs. There's also a fact that she almost never participated in an official event despite being one of the biggest talent they have. Their treatment towards her is completely unacceptable.
>>5038951If Kanata was stopped from doing her idol show thing god knows what tame ideas they shot down for Coco
>>5038964I'm sure you know this already but I just want to reiterate the point where the reason why hololive exploded in the first place is because their talent can be more free to explore whatever content they feel like doing and actually gets rewarded for it. It also give a place for a more vanilla girls to shine because they can still feel fresh in a sea of crazy girls. I hope Cover won't forget what makes them popular in the first place
>>5038617Have you seen the makeup stream? I don't think she's very happy right now regardless and might just want a change. She seems like she's trying to keep the door open for a potential return in case going solo doesn't work out, so there is always a possibility for a panda situation.
>>5038617She's a retard, it's been known for a long time
>>5039244Honestly to me it feels like there is a good chance she'll come back if management ever becomes more receptive to her ideas again, unless of course she already has other plans (heard somewhere that her sister is starting a company). Which is farfetched but not really impossible, maybe if more talents start expressing their discontent and/or if numbers start declining.
>>5038617>I don't see how she will be happier streaming alone without the interaction with the other holomembers.You're looking at this from a perspective of "stream content" rather than what will actually make her happy. She has a life outside of streaming (sort of). She likes hanging out with her friends, and she will still do that without being in Hololive. You just won't see it or hear much about it.She literally joined the company to be a content producer. Making shows like Asacoco is her passion. And now she isn't allowed to do it, and after 4-5 months of discussions with her bosses, any management sanctioned ideas were lame shit she wouldn't have any fun making. Without that, the only thing Hololive offers her is a ton of restrictions on what she can stream and what she can talk about.
protecting her own smile... she could have actual depression and need to find herself so she took graduation instead of hiatus in the event she does find out what she really wants to do after getting through it and its not hololive and while she has grievances that may have contributed to this from cover and other things she'd rather not burn that bridge if she finds she wants to return after figuring it all out and she'll have alot of time to do that now.
>>5041378I've had this thought ever since i heard all the other holomen talk about her and how they ended up agreeing with her.What if the reasons for leaving are much darker than we imagine and are mental health related, as in severe depression.If i was someone a holomen, and my friend told me she wants to leave, of course i'll try to stop her while keeping up with traditional japanese manners.But if her answer is something like "i'm having dark thoughts" (that's as far as i'm willing to write), well then there's nothing i can do, that's the card that i can't counter, i wouldn't even want to change her mind at that point.
>>5041670I think its not that much about leaving, but as an introvert there is a bit of a danger that she'll tend to isolate, and with isolation she can spiral into her own depressive thoughts, if left alone with her mind.As long as she is with Kanata it should be fairly ok, though.
>>5027231Let's hold out hope that the 2 best hololive chuubas collab again before July
I just cried again. From a reddit meme review.I'm never gonna make it bros...
>>5041739another stream ill miss live because i decided to swap to morning shifts from evenings 2 weeks ago i cannot cope
>>5041772It hit me a bit on her birthday stream how she said she couldn’t make a party because of the pandemic, but she didn’t say “with my friends” but instead “with my family”.I’ve also noticed every time she talks about her bangya friends it’s in past tense.It’s pretty obvious her only friend outside hololive is M-chan, at least it’s the only one she actually hangs out IRL.
>>5043290Yup. In general she feels like a person who has more acquaintances than friends. Let's hope that she and the members she is close with can keep their friendship stable. And she doesn't pull a stunt like, pretending to be asleep, when they are over.Well, at the moment the whole graduation itself is a lot of emotional baggage.
>>5043788I'd like to think that Kanatan wouldn't let her avoid the others and will arrange collabs as an excuse to bring people over if she gets bad
>>5043850Honestly if she wasn’t living with someone like Kanata this whole thing would have been much worse for me, knowing she has her soulmate with her stops me from going insane.
Her old 2D...
Why doesn't she have the graphics she had last time?
>>5045343Server updated to 1.17. Shaders are probably incompatible atm.