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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://www.hololive-songs.com/ Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/ Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.
Homocollabs bring numbers so we the numberfags here should love it and demand them to do more.
>>49507829you could at least look at her channel and Twitter.
>>49507916It's on her free chat
Thanks for the reminder that these are the only good CouncilRyS.
>>49507952Recent clip numbers>>49460819>>49460859>>49460888>>49460924>>49460970
>>49507927Well, it makes sense if you take into account those rrats about her RM.
>>49507952Anchor in.Sisters in.IKZ~~
>Every homocollab sisters have to suffer through Kronii to own le unicornholochads keep winning
* FINAL VOD TALLY FOR 05/14/2023 *(Values are measured 24 hours after stream end)>338,139 Kuzuha (ANYCOLOR)>334,881 Houshou Marine (COVER)>327,511 Usada Pekora (COVER)>314,466 Kurumi Noah (Brave Group)>247,456 Sakura Miko (COVER)>245,978 Inugami Korone (COVER)>245,726 Ryushen (ANYCOLOR)>211,706 Virtual eSports Project (Brave Group)>198,384 Oozora Subaru (COVER)>179,424 Hakui Koyori (COVER)>178,918 ZEA Cornelia (ANYCOLOR)>169,831 Amane Kanata (COVER)>158,902 Uruha Ichinose (Brave Group)
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>52,757: Subaru (Hololive)>36,999: Suisei (Hololive)>31,184: Pekora (Hololive)>26,710: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>16,947: Koyori (Hololive)>15,379: Mio (Hololive)>15,332: Lamy (Hololive)>15,209: Korone (Hololive)>14,334: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>13,010: Hayato (Nijisanji)>12,807: Okayu (Hololive)>12,571: Nene (Hololive)>11,756: Sora (Hololive)>11,615: Lauren (Nijisanji)>11,399: Botan (Hololive)>10,810: Noah (VSPO)>10,789: Nui (Nijisanji)
>>49508068MODS?
>>49508055Updated version.
>>49507779but why?
>>49508027You mean it brings a bunch of tourists who will just fuck off when they're not collabing and will never be part of the box. Anyway, this is another ttrpg, right?
>>49508068Nani? What happened?
>>49508137>MAY 2023 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 28) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut13) Mel (Hololive) - 58,589 - 5th Anniversary 3D Live14) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,892 - Minecraft 1.2015) Subaru (Hololive) . 52,757 - Marshmallow reading plus announcement>PER COMPANY14x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER5x: Miko3x: Marine, Pekora1x: Hibari, Koyori, Mel, Subaru>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY103x: Hololive23x: Nijisanji4x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: VSPO>PER STREAMER38x: Pekora13x: Marine, Miko6x: Toya5x: Subaru4x: Hal3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Towa1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Koro
>>49507779>Japanese people need to go back to being irrelevant shittersSure let's just ignore how Sony and Capcom are doing better than ever by catering to western fans and how hololive is mogging nijisanji thanks to dominating the western market
>>49508027>in case of low numbers break Kronii glass
>>49508149>vaguepost>MODS?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?1????Anonchama, I'm not even being specific.
>>49508192>>49507752
>>49508280
>>49508055IRyS good, mumei fauna....okayKinda sad that EN2 came to this. And we presented with Tempus 1&2
>>49508241The only reason NA market is so lucrative is because USD is overvalued due to its status as world reserve.
>>49508027The same stream back to back days though? I don't know if twitter tourists are up for that anon.
>>49508305Me too, it's even harder with no Moom stream
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*>5/15 DAILY TALLY7,493: IRyS (Hololive)6,711: Ina (Hololive)6,658: Ike (Nijisanji)6,491: Mysta (Nijisanji)5,889: Mumei (Hololive)5,451: IRyS (Hololive)5,251: Selen (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 20231) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 29) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)13) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,884 - Unarchived Karaoke14) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,114 - Pikuniku (w/ Gura)15) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,493 - CHADcast>PER COMPANY13x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER5x: IRyS3x: Fauna1x: Luca, Gura, Mumei, Amelia, Mori, Vox, Kiara>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)31p: IRyS21p: Fauna15p: Mumei13p: Mori, Ina6p: Amelia, Kiara5p: Luca, Gura, Baelz, Vox4p: Shu1p: Ike
>>49508329what's that?you want tempus 3?
>>49507952Should've made this the op
I love her
>Collab with Mumei>Straight into Homo collabs>Member karaoke afterShe does this every fucking time it's actually sad at this point. Also >One solo stream and it's a fucking SC readingholy christ
>>49508241
>>49508184Fixed that for you
>>49508184Fauna pretty solid, women moment got her and she got real for once. Forgive her.Fauna has not done anything like Ame or Kronii.
>>49508263>hurr breaking rule 1 is allowed if I'm VAGUE durr!retard, enjoy your [Deleted]
>>49508321
>>49508410That is not Council anymore though.
>>49508241>hololive is mogging nijisanji thanks to dominating the western market"Western fans" don't watch HoloJP and the HoloEN numbers are garbage
I wonder if the rest of da boiz are really hurt and feel excluded that only THE SQUAD gets collabs anymore.I could imagine some resentment building there.
>>49508374>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY97x: Hololive36x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER14x: IRyS13x: Mori12x: Fauna10x: Gura9x: Baelz, Mumei8x: Ina, Amelia, Vox7x: Kronii6x: Kiara5x: Mysta4x: Selen3x: Pomu, Shu2x: Luca1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)133p: Fauna108p: IRyS96p: Mori, Ina93p: Mumei84p: Baelz69p: Vox61p: Amelia54p: Kiara53p: Mysta50p: Gura47p: Kronii43p: Luca31p: Selen22p: Shu16p: Pomu11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny, Ike9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur8p: Finana7p: Regis, Elira6p: Rosemi, Ren5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English4p: Vesper3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina
>>49508428Sure, whatever.
>>49508192Westerners are entitled if they start to listen to them anime will become like cartoons with all the sjw bullshit the dub industry is already in shambles subs are enough.
>>49508390this is the numbers thread, not the tribalism thread
>>49508471But she is part of CouncilRyS. She's so importan her name is part of the group name
>>49508410What's the point of staying in EN then? EN's a mess and JP is far brighter. I want EN to succeed though.
>>49508506They should pester the other girls. Mori and Kronii are already taken
>>49508506They only have themselves to blame. Magni and Vesper has numbers and not bunch of 3views. What does the rest have?
>>49508410keep coping
>>49508241japanese should not change their ways of producing because westernfucks starts bitching around when something gets popular among western people
The worst thing is that both homocollab will unironically get gold again
IT'S REAL
>>49508551I know, but without the other 4 it will just be IRyS.
>>49508506I like to pretend and imagine that there would be more if it wasn't for IRyS laying the law down and Kronii's fuck up. At least that's my headcanon
>>49508604>MagniHe's dangerously close to becoming a permanent 3view.
>>49508192The homogenization of culture makes everything garbage. Everyone has the same values and tastes so we won't get anything unique anymore. The reason anime blew up in the first place is because it's something unique to what we were already getting in the west. But now all that boiled down to "anime fight scenes" where people only think of anime as sakuga fights while ignoring all the unique cultural elements and tropes that has been built up over the years
This will finally be the last little push the boys need to get "over" with the Hololive audience. Mark my words, this is the moment of triumph.Mori and Kronii have finally done it. They've saved them.
>>49508626>POPULAR DEMAND>Your voice has been heardXe was right. (You) asked for this.
>>49508626>no fauna>nobody else cares to stream>the fat wigger and her crew is the only optionIf nobody else streams at that hour, I'll just rewatch the VODs of my favorite twitch whore.
>>49508611What this suppose to even mean?
>>49508560Nothing. EN is a dead branch where nobody wants to stream and the only people streaming are all trash tier losers who can't even muster up 5k viewers to save their lives. Imagine getting less viewers than Chocosen. This is your HoloEN box. You deserve this
>>49508604>They only have themselves to blame. It's largely management's fault. Management fucked the bois up pretty hard.Just look at Tenma and Aruran's growth all these years you can tell management is really shitty in managing the bois, Especially if you take into account of Cover's resources
>>49508729No wonder LA only loves battle shounen
>>49508055>RyS
>>49508626Part 1 might but i don't know how much they can retain after that
>>49508929The first stream is gonna be character creationThe second one is the real one-shot
>If there's an ASMR, Karaoke, or Mumei collab there's almost always a guarantee of a homo collab later or right beforeI don't want to think she's doing this on purpose but it's really hard to think it's just a coincidence every time.
>>49508885So what should management do to help them? Because it feels like they've been doing everything short of completely forcing them inside the Holobox like allowing them to play on the same MC server or making HoloFes a HoloPro concert.
>>49508885Aruran's numbers have only nose dived since Shinove left, so I'm not gonna blame the old management for them being unable to grow since Astel and Roberu have manged, while Rikka has his niche as well.
>>49508506Altare was unironicially a part of the initial collab that started it all, but stopped after he didn’t want to be part of clipbaiting faggotry
>>49508321>>49507465why are you guys such console war retards?
>>49508908Do you know how much I HATE how every single Western video game goes for Trigger when it comes to making "Anime OPs"? They're a very specific company style that set them apart from their contemporaries, but they've basically become synonymous for "anime style" in the West for some fucking reason and it's retarded as fuck. Where are the people asking Studio Bones for their OPs? Or DavidPro? Or KyoAni? Normalfags have a very specific image of anime in their heads and it's Dragon Ball fight scenes with Trigger style animation for some fucking reasonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buk-A68b9Aw&pp=ygUQdHJpZ2dlciBhbmltZSBvcA%3D%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0WdUsip1is&pp=ygUVdHJpZ2dlciB2aWRlbyBnYW1lIG9whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H08y7_AFygU&pp=ygUVdHJpZ2dlciB2aWRlbyBnYW1lIG9w
>>49508343Chink cope>>49508399Exoprimal is trash designed with a Japanese mindset so what's your point here, all of Capcom's Western-focused games have been lucrative smash hits >>49508479>HoloEN numbersAre culled and higher than they look>>49508614>let's not cater to the largest and most influential market in the world because of a vocal minorityMeanwhile the Japanese stalk and murder idols or force them into killing themselves, that's so much better than people bitching on Twitter I bet
>>49509025Which system they'll use this time? Also It's hilarious how Mori decides to do one-shots format only after the failed long-form campaign.
>>49508729I agree with you but you can't deny it's clearly working for them
>>49509047That is called "apology ASMR". It is done if you know your fans will be angry at what you are about to do. This is why the real talke came before Fauna's ASMR too. She had this all planned out.
>>49508241Except Hololive is dominating the west by being more Japanese than their competition.
>>49508850> Imagine getting less viewers than Chocosen. JP and EN market different. Invalid comparison. I'm not angry that some ENs are not popular, I'm angry that they aren't trying or striving.
>mori wants to get back in the box>2 days ttrpg with starslmao
>>49508532>he thinks the numbers thread is about numbers
>>49508395/#/: No one would mind collabs with the boys if they mixed up the content with non-boy stuffAlso /#/: reeeeee Kronii is pathetic for mixing up content with non-boy stuff
>>49508850I guess you could say, our voice has been heard.
Mori restarting homo collabs and her side job after using holo fanbase for her bluray lol.Though will be funny how low the homos will get after the collab since every collab they recline after.
>>49509135Go back to /a/. I don't care what the masses think. Only my viewpoint is objective. Only my opinion matters.
>>49509271cope. go shill your whore in /mans/ or something
is this Kronii's new clique?
>>49509271What fucking content retard.Her ONLY SOLO STREAM IS AN SC READING. Then it's a fucking paid shill stream. Then it's 2 homo streams and then of course the fucking apology karaoke.
>>49509221ya boy is not very smart
>>49508390fuck off BVTM
>>49509340No.
>>49509271I hate when kronies show up on /#/
>>49509135>for some fucking reasonIt's because Trigger design and style comes closest to the fluid stylized quality that characterizes Western animation
>>49509221She doesn't need to get back in the box, the bluray is out. There's no need for her to shill it anymore.
>>49509135not related, but i remember the interview from Michael B. Jordan about his insperation of anime in his directing. And all he came up is naruto, hxh, one piece and dragon ball
>>49509197Their greed and desire to get more money from the wider Western market is stupid and I hate them for it. I remember reading an article saying that Persona 6 will have more Western influences and everyone was praising it for that because P5 was really popular in the West. Can't even have good things anymore
>>49509142Main point: Do not pander to western fans because they don't even know why they like your product to begin with. It will stay popular in the west even without the "western morals" bullshit on it.You: JAPANESE KILLS IDOLS! DRAGS NOW! SLAAAY XDDDDDdd LGTV4KS+ POWER
>>49509271
>>49509326The general public is who these companies are pandering to, so you'll get dragged into what those normalfags love whether you like it or not
>>49509221She probably just wanted to sell those bluray. Once her mission is done she just goes back to do what she wants.
>>49509419How are they going to achieve that? P5 is pretty well balanced in western influence imo but i can't imagine pushing even further.
>>49509431The point is that pandering to the Japanese market is utter idiocy that promotes toxic mindsets while not making them as much money as they could have
>>49509135I love anime discussion but long /a/ text here is fucking no go buddy. You literally wasted 1 post slot for me tribalfag
>>49509340Yea. Its the Double Date Duos. Personally im glad. As long as she stays away from girl collabs shes terrible in those. Give me ORK baby. Or Kouncil. Its been a while
>>49509416>Shounen shows niggers loveOf fucking course. Why am I not even surprised
>>49509416It's called grifting. Why would he note literal who animes like gintama, kinmoza, azumanga, etc? Gotta maximize that clout chasing
What the fuck is Gun? Why do they need two days for that?
>toxicThere was an attempt. Can't even call this a raid because it's just one retard being an obvious retard.
>>49509419>Their greed and desire to get more money from the wider Western market is stupid and I hate them for it.Well, they have to get their money SOMEWHEREWhat, you're going to tell me you want them to go back to China?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YDiJH5253Uwhat the fuck did she mean by this
>>49509530https://gamerant.com/persona-6-international-travel-concept-p5-cut-idea/
>>49509405I find it even weirder because Gurren Lagann wasn't even that mainstream back in the day, much less Kill la Kill. They're popular among weebs, sure, but the extent of anime knowledge that's mainstream begins and ends in Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon
How did Bae just lose 500 superchat reading viewers to Kronii starting her own superchat reading?
>Kronii asked Fauna to join in on the oneshot>she quickly invented a holiday to get out of it
>>49509654https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWKNXRCND3wMemes
>>49508241Hololive could drop EN and not even take a great hit.
Ok TT as a whole might be shit because they shat on hololive, but why people are saying Gigguk is an "ironic weeb"? He clearly still watch anime.
>>49509271Who said the first statement? I strongly dislike collabs with the dudes and think they should stay in their corner like good little boys and accept the generous unearned benefits of being a Holostar. My merch money subsidizes their (future) use of the 3D studio, so the least they could do is stay out of my sight.But I'm also not mad if Kronii or Mori collab with them, I don't really watch either unless they collab with the other girls.
>>49509708Sasuga le "mother" nature invented mother's day
>>49509703This is a classical chemical reaction ODE
>>49509630mori wants to do more event collabs with the boiiiz
>>49509575(You)
>>49509512I just get a new hobby, as many have done in the past. This isn't the first time companies have done this, zoomzoomchan.
>>49509654Thanks, I am now reminded of how much I miss her
>>49509703Sorry Calli 5k is for grown ups
>>49509708Source. Or off yourself. Preferrably both
Apparently Magni is getting his l2d fixed. How long did it take Irys?
>>49509703Homo audience unite
>>49509652They were already making money, Square Enix is one of the biggest video game companies in the world and Pokemon is literally a multimedia juggernaut. You don't have to pander to the West since the West was already buying your stuff regardless
>>49509679They're popular with the Western game dev hipster crowd, your typical Trigger anime looks like what a Western parody of anime would look like back in the 90s
>>49509630Western themed TTRPG by the Kill 6 Billion Demons guy. 1 day for character creation 1 for the oneshot>Why not do character creation offscreenThat was the most viewed part of MythBreakers.
>>49509746>losing 40% is not a great hitAnd other hilarious jokes brought to you by the numbers thread
>>49508305>>49508364>>49508388just remake the general.
>>49509788>cedeing ground to moral busybodiesBefore you grow enough to step 1 foot into the coffin you will have no hobby left.
>>49509746>Hololive could drop EN and not even take a great hit.EN market is not real. Losing it doesn't hurt you. Amen.
>>49509801She already got 5k TouristGOD.“Calli” stupid ass Nijinigger.
>>49509431I’ve started making this point and sticking to the message more tightly, and I wish more people would stick to it.International media is popular because it’s different from what people are used to. Therefore, don’t listen to them and let the people in the country it’s being made do their thing and let things take their course.Japanese anime is probably going to get “more western” anyway because Japan is a lot more open now than it was even a decade ago. Which means Japanese creators will naturally come up with ideas influenced by them watching western media and including some of it in their stuff, which is how anime got started in the first place.But no, this bullshit about how not being disgusted by idols means you’re automatically ok with gachi schizos killing people or how every anime trap is secretly a troon is ridiculous.
>>49509703bae fucking sucks on overlap.kronii is far stronger and has more toursit apeal and priority with other council viewers.if kronii liked buff content she would good but wouldnt be "kronii" so now we have to deal with more homo collabs.
>>49509878Remake it? This thread is perfectly good, hasn't even hit the bump limit yet.
https://poal.me/7kxc2w
damn, are burger hours always this bad?
>>49509922I blame EN watchers here who refused to do their reps.
It's not worth it to member somebody if she is not your oshi.Abayo funny shark.
>tempus numbers in the fucking trashliterally bringing anohter mori and kronii collabthey arent even subtle.Also why the fuck are these gay faggots not doing their own fucking rpg sessions, they even got fubuki blessing.
HoloEN is a lost cause. Even Gura agrees which is why she only does the bare minimum to be associated with it. Why do you not go watch a 3view that appeals to you? Better yet go watch a JP that has a live translator. This brand loyalty thing is weird.
>>49509976Name me one good hour
>>49509975>poal
>>49509820Around a year? Council got their NY kimono around early January 2022 but the decision to give IRyS a redesign was likely earlier than that.
>>49509820Homo master race. 2 gen debut in half year.
>>49509975Wrong thread. My oshi is Montu Plays.
>>49509049>allowing them to play on the same MC serverThat is where I draw the line. Hololive is dead to me at that point.
>>49510001The collabs don't save their numbers anyway, it's a temporary boost that wears off and makes them fall even faster.It's like taking amphetamines when what you really need is 10 hours of sleep.
>>49509820IRyS had a whole redesign, he's just getting a rigging update
>>49509142some people care about quality.
>>49510001i don't know, tell that to mori
>>49510078is the most existing thing they have for nowbecasue cant do their own content anymore.
>>49510033Dead hour.
hey guys i dont visit the numbers thread often why do we use blue archive OPs
>>49510078> temporary boostThey dont even get a boost. Each time they collab their numbers dip. Its happened every time
>>49510094im talking about tempus ttrpgthey got like 5-8k when they were doing D&D and even got fubuki to watch. Could have easily keep doing that without mori.
>>49509708Based samefagging >>49509451
>>495100331600 - 1800 JST.
>>49510120>becasue cant do their own content anymore."You live and die by your solo content" sure stings.
do people watch stream here or just stats and analytics like me
>>49509135maybe people can't afford Studio Bones animators?
>>49510132EU time was pretty good back when it's dead, but now it's even worse than NA and SEA hours.
>>49510182Because Vesper is a dumb motehrfucker. It's that simple. He ended up making the rest of the campaign some pre-recorded garbage that he released during his menhera trip to Japan
>>49510170it's because there are more unicorn sisters AND THEY FUCKING HATE MORI
>>49510141They have great cunny. This thread is also secretly /cunny/ among other things. shhh. Dont let it get out
>>49509708>holidayYou mean management mandated "leaves" to get away from yabs?
>>49509495Welcome to the start of Nijification Era.
>>49510141The whole point of the OP picture is to be something that's unrelated to vtubers to show people that anons here only care about numbers, not the vtuber attached to it.
>>49509922Japs shouldn't even give them an inch desu.They don't even put porn magazines with normal magazines in the konbini anymore because western fucks said kids could look at them. It's fucking over.
>>49509841>They were already making moneyAnon do you NOT understand the point of capitalism?
>>4950985040% of what?
I hate holokeks so much.
>>49510091What about Aruran? He got a redesign and is getting a new costume soon. IRyS still only has her default costume in almost 2 years
>>49510182becasue vesper ruined tempus 1 with his menehra japan travel. All of tempus recline has an origin there.Collabs and creativity died with that arc
>>49510141We use non-vtubers specifically to avoid bias. I think the rule is that the thread after the date changes in Japan features the winner of the day’s tally, but all the other ones feature anime or game characters.
>>49510206I watch streams just none of the slop discussed here
>>49509890>no hobby leftNo such thing. Even GRIM can be enjoyable.
>>49509708Fauna such a mommy she made her own Mom and then created an entire day around "Mother's" so she has an excuse. Exquisite.
please backseat my doghttps://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1658318715988099073
>>49510332What has IRyS done for the cause lately?
>>49509055Shinove left? Why?
>>49510382She collabs with Mori of the SQUAD
>>49510141Baker is a footfag doesnt matter the franchise. It's so even if the thread is shit you might get a half erection at least if you're a footfreak
>>49510382What cause?
Someone should send a SC to say who made the collab so we can stop throwing hate to Calli
>>49510378>grooming minors>blaming the controllerShe's already a full-fledged FGC member.
>>49510481...are you fucking retarded she's literally talked about this before. It's 100% her idea and why she wanted to finish MythBreakers.
>>49509788Giving up on your hobbies because people who aren't fans of what it used to be came in and changed it is a shitty way to lose one of your interests
>>49510332Did you forget entirely about Irys Kimono outfit? Aururan didn't had anything for his redesign until yesterday.
>>49509997Why do I need to do my reps when I can watch LITERALLY anything else? Brand loyalty is just a form of content restriction anyway
>>49510462Footfags are genetical deadends. You can't make feet pregnant.
>>49510514i don't know, maybe it was grandpire's idea and Calli wanted to help him
>>49510277does it work?
I wish Kronii at least had good taste in video games. Everytime I try to give her a chance it's a boring ass indie game that puts me to sleep.
>>49510481nigga is obviously mori, is a waste of 5 dollars.mori organzie the 90% of that gorup collabs.
>>49510332IRyS have her kimono, but Aruran debuted his redesign with a second outfit from the get-go which was weird so now he has 2 options besides the base design. As for how long it took him I have no idea. With IRyS it's easier to guess because she didn't get her kimono with the rest of Council, while Aruran might've started asking management around the same time Astel got his but then his case is also weird because he first got the redesigned 3D and then a few months alter he got the Live2D.
>>49510462You’re bringing back memories of the time I argued with an anon about the OP pic. The schizo talked shit about Casino. Yes, I went on my own schizo rant about Casino’s mastery of the art that used the word “sprezzatura”. No, I am not ashamed.
It sucks because I really want it to be on a homo channel just to see it fail to get 10k
>>49510575Kys.
>>49510078The boost only happens during the collab. Their solo numbers keep getting worst and worst. But them getting over 20k for so long is fascinating to me.
>>49508614From business viewpoint, pander to whatever sells AND don't listen to loudfags who often don't pay.Even Disney couldn't understand this.
>>49510570sounds liek someone is jealous they cant masturbate to SFW images while at work
>>49510575Go back
>>49510551I did forget about it, but Kimono outfits are only really used for 2-3 months in a year
>>49510316Irrelevant because Pokemon Sun and Moon would have been the best selling Pokemon games in history regardless if it pandered to the West or not. If it was set in Japan and all the black characters were replaced with pale skinned "Japanese" characters, it would still sell like hotcakes
>>49510402He didn't want to support the cause. That bigot.
It’s been over a well over a month since Niji JP’s Heroes of the East wave debuted and two of them still aren’t over 50k in subs. Grim
>>49509135some of their early actions gave them more Western mindshare.
>>49510586THIS
>>49509976only when Kronii posts schedules.
>>49510696Anon, Pokemon target demographic is LITERALLY FUCKING CHILDRENSThat audience don't need reason to consume
>>49510583You’re seeing the problem with the homocollabs. I can’t stand either female member of the squad in their solo content, and even though I have mildly positive feelings about Vesper and Magni, I literally can’t be bothered to watch their streams.Sometimes I watch their collabs together because it’s more interesting than any of them apart. And I’m pretty sure most normalfags feel the same way as I do about Tempus. They’re cool and I vaguely hope someone can save them, but I don’t care enough to do it myself and I’m not going to be that shaken up if any of them graduate because of financial problems.
So is it over for HoloEN? They're just going to push the males endlessly and no longer even try with girl vtubers?
>>49510402He felt like he did everything with Holostars and wanted to start again from the beginning with another company. Who knows how much of this is true tho considering how the branch barely grew after he left and now they're all under a milestone gate for custom merch.
>>49510481>>49510575>CalliGO BACK
Someone has that pic of the man drinking water leaving just drops of water to the thirsty? i want one edit with mori implying the squad collab and the subs she receive instead of them
>>49510212Even Disney went for Trigger for their Star Wars Visions anime project
>>49510332I used to watch Aruran in the past when no interesting Holo was streaming. After Aruran used new l2d he became so ugly I just can't watch him anymore
>>49510402HoloEN management debuting a homo branch without giving Shinove any kind of heads up probably played a role.
>>49508410Fixed, check my picrel.
Is the TTRPG going to be on one of da bois channels? If not how does it really help them
>>49510586and people still think Mori didn't strongarm Ina into suggesting getting a flesh pro commentator for the Holo fighting game. Ina who knows fuck all about the FGC versus brapper Mori and her e-celeb friends
>>49510551Kimono outfits are free, if I recall. Everyone gets one
>>49510330Do you hate holokeks or 1% more?
>>49510692>Kimono outfits are only really used for 2-3 months in a year>laugh in HoloIDWhen was the last time Kaela even use her default over her kimono anymore?
>>49510972Probably the way they handled Uproar as well. The no Holostars branding and not being a numbered gen was weird back then
>>49509135please not KyoAni, their style is also popular, and also doesn't work for most stuff.
>>49510719Damn it is over a month now? Time sure flies. I sure hope to see them debuting "Heroes of the West" in nijiEN around June.
>>49510875I desperately want a Botan or Korone tier gamer hag for EN3. Please I just want vidya games that aren't boring indie games or cleaning simulators.
>>49511081Is Anya all over again.
>>49511085HoloX technically wasn't numbered either, even if some of them say rokisei
>the top twitch whoretuber is JP nowTOTAL JP DOMINATION
>>49511085>Maybe the problem is the word Holostars?t. some dumb salaryman in early 2022
>>49511085No, they talked about that. It's just how male idol groups work, they debut sister groups instead of Gens, especially when they were spaced out by like 2 years between the old and new. Shinove was involved with Uproar.
>>49511142HoloX is clearly Rokisei
>>49511153>the top twitch whoretuber is JP nowwho?
>>49510402Vesper started screaming at him during a meeting.
>>49510676>pander to whatever sells AND don't listen to loudfags who often don't pay.This is an extremely hard concept for companies and its hierarchies to grasp.Even Linus can't get it right and fall for the positive loud people.The only thing that prevents most of Japanese things to get fucked is their mindset of being closed and minding their own shit. It comes with side effects but I rather wait for the fax machine to deliver than have a cock claiming to be a vaggo on my screen.
>>49511142Did you completely miss the number pun in their name?
>>49511081>When was the last time Kaela even use her default the day before getting it but her kimono outfit is gorgeous so it's understandable why she doesn't use the default anymore
>>49510719They just don't want Anykara to have any more plaques in their break room
>>49511081Have you seen Kaela's Kimono outfit? Shit us sex and good enough to be a default outfit
>>49510994Mori is setting up these collabs so I would say no. They haven't had a pov ever since Vesper got back. It's only been on Kronii's or Mori's channels. Also Mori is planning on bring more members in, she is just starting with the squad.
>>49511142HoloX = hoROKUsu
>>49511265Meanwhile Kronii uses her kimono outfit because she doesn't want us to look at her boobs.
>>49511225No, I get the pun (horrokusu -> roku -> 6), I'm just pointing out that they're always referred to as 'Secret Society HoloX' in promo material and that their gen number is totally ignored otherwise.
>>49511124Heroes of the West already exists...like a little over 2 weeks ago. Two of them still have not reached 40k yet kekhttps://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1651058680920707072
>>49511120Violet Evergarden is absolutely gorgeous and you can totally hire them for some artsy fartsy trailer.
>>49511304>Also Mori is planning on bring more members inSo Bae and tempoop
This must suck for Axel since he actually likes TTRPGs, but since he's not part of the group he can't play with them. I ask for more of these kinda streams but within their own branches, fucking monkeys paw.
People in charge or in management position are often narcissistic bunch who seeks constant validation from their surrounding and are good at lying to get to their current position. Woke shit and PC culture are constant source of validation and self fellation on social media. Even if other metric shows the mistake in their decision, they often lie and shift the blame to anything but themselves, which in turn convince others to keep following their decision and even if it is a mistake, they will keep it going because they will be admitting their mistake otherwise
This weeek actually just sucks. Between the BOTW/TOTK spam, these fucking shitty ass homo collabs, and the only fucking saving grace is the Gartic collab and I guess Girlstalk ,except that one is at a shitty fucking timeslot for a normal person,, everything just feels like a goddamn joke. Why did it have to be THIS week that Fauna decided to fuck off? Why can't Gura just fucking stream at least twice this week or something instead of being stuck in another fucking collab.Fuck Ina too.
>>49511428>tempoopThey wish
>>49511388>15.1M ViewsThat is a yikes from me
>>49511346Same for Anya. oppai loli is shit but she should have embraced it cuz she had the market cornered on it in Hololive
>>49511130You will get Sana 2, someone specialized in drawing yet reluctant to do drawing stream. Drawing is not a skill related to streaming anyway. But a lot of western otakus are drawfags.
>>49511357>At least they don't get in trouble for numbering genCan't say the same for EN>They don't have meetings when someone calls Gura a senpaiCan't say the same for EN
>>49511388Holy shit.... Is that too much acceleration?
>>49511454mori needs kronii since kroni abner against the voys is good.mori + stars wont bring numebrs she knows this we know this.Tempus should be doing their own ttrpg again
>>49511428Yeah, I can't wait till these homo collabs buff wear off. Them spamming these will hopefully cause it, if no new girl joins.
>>49511463i found exremly insulting ina is just streaming the ORGINAL botw rather than the new one.
>>49511463>This weeek actually just sucksThis but since mid 2022
>>49511223Well, consider that every public space right now is overran by the "loud" crowd, the ONLY way for companies to gouge actual interest is AFTER the sales figures have been published, which is ... Well, kinda too late. And by that time you have already committed too much resource to change course
>>49511526>too muchlollmao even
>>49511538>Tempus should be doing their own ttrpg againIt didn't do so for the effort they need to put into it. If you want it to come back, better hope the squad gun collab fails
>>49511526They’re gonna accelerate even faster. They still have a bunch of students that have not debuted yet and they’ve recently announced a 5th VTA audition a couple days ago
what are we doing today?
>>49511428Dont forget ID if they can even comprehend TTRPGs
>>49511538Ame + Mori got 18k so really it's just any other girl. Don't know if Bae will work though.
>>49511573Homos: we will grind homo collabs until we make it. Koyo and Kaela had proven grinding worked.
>>495105791 out of 10 times
>>49511538She just needs to bring in Gura. It would kill of two bird with one stone. It would finally make the boys popular when even the most subbed Vtuber interact with them. Imagine the clips that would be generated. It would also kill the cancerous chumbuds fanbase she has now and replace it with normal fans that make up the Holopro fanbase
>>49511709Might as well ask Mariah Carey to guest star with mori and the boys, it would be easier than getting Gura to respond to that DM
>>49511581I don't even know why because no one will care if she doesn't finish BotW. Zelda has shitty stories and if she's worried about not understanding shit that happens in TotK, then she could just watch a story recap video before playing it.
>>49511647seething while everything but HoloJP is crumbling around us
>>49511538That's what I'm saying, tempus should have done more of them at least weekly/Bi-weekly so it wouldn't feel spammy. But as everyone has already said Vesper fucked up the group feeling.
>>49511581I honestly cannot tell you who's worse. Mumei with 10 fucking parts of BOTW who decided to just finish off stream or Ina who only had 2 parts with not a single temple done until the FIFTH who decided she was going to keep going after a fucking year for no real discernable reason
>>49511655The only IDs that would do a Homo collab and TTRPG collab are like Iofi and Ollie.
>>49511647the same as yesterday
>>49511607>linus release female merch due popular demand>later on wanshow he says it didn't sell well>consider that every public space right now is overran by the "loud" crowd, the ONLY way for companies to gouge actual interest is AFTER the sales figures have been published, which is ... Well, kinda too lateIts over
>>49510402they hired burgerlanders
>>49511634Look forward to dozens of more flops
>>49511647Starting to feel nothing as HoloEN crumbles to the ground. What is there to save when they dont want to save themselves.........
>>49510033The hours I'm watching my oshi
HoloEN 2023
>>49511709Look, the day it happens, I will make the popcorn and watch the catalog, because the drama of Mori lying to Gura and tricking her into a collab is going to be kino. But it’ll destroy the branch and you know it.
>>49511849It's not over. Cover now has the feedback and realizes that whoops, there actually isn't any real popular demand.It's not an ideal situation, but the course correction is easy: 70% reduction in resources to the bois and recruit a new female gen asap.Pretty decent chance that's what they're doing since the Holostars are on heavy belt-tightening these days.
KRONII'S NUMBERS AFTER THE SCHEDULE REVEAL?
LOL Elira is also doing it. Luca's having a "Girls dating show" on his channel, where all the girls try to win his cock. I guess Elira thinks it's a great idea.
>>49511130I don't understand those posts, why not just watch Botan and Korone then.
>>49511709The only way to get Gura involved with holostars is to surprise her with it or just never mention that they are involved it the thing
>>49512021Haha fuck off.Well at least NijiEN is proof that it can ALWAYS be way worse!
>>49511709I would slap you if I was standing right next to you irl not because of suggesting Gura is going to collab with a Stars member but rather insinuating Gura of all people is going to show up for another TTRPG and expecting her to stick around or be consistent.
The stench of homobeggars ITT is pungent
>>49511887Holy shit
>>49511538Very nice good English
>>49511942It will have high ccv though.
>>49512054>begging>Gura mention>holostarsFuck off tourist
>>49512143Begging?
>>49512098Gura loves collabs though especially those where she does not need to do even 1 second of preparation. We can see she only spams collab nowadays
>>49511920Imagine you are an EN fighting for success but your comrades are Gura, Ina, Mori, Ame, Kiara, Sana, Kronii, Fauna, Mumei, Bae. (IRyS is JP)You don't feel like trying anymore aren't you. You will feel like an idiot for even trying.
>>49511647Seething over people who have already collabed with homos collabing with homos and pregaming how the collab numbers don’t count.
>>49512230It's like asking for something but with a more pathetic connotation.Usage in a sentence: The homeless person was begging outside the 7-11.
>>49512029The time they stream relative to where I live is brutal since I have class and studying the next day typically and I only know very limited Japanese.
>>49512251>(IRyS is JP)Fuck off
>>49512021>>49512071Elira doesn't call it what it is on her schedule, but Enna does.And if Elira's gonna be there, so will Pomu.
>>49512273How was that begging?
otsuray~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b45f009brb0
>>49512303You know what youre doing beggar, go back to twitter
>>49512248Yes, but there’s a difference between phoning it in because you have enough mindshare to still sell merch and killing your passive income. Gura makes six or seven figures by barely doing anything and she sure as hell isn’t going to risk that by collabing with the homos.A Tempus collab would probably kill her revenue stream more than six straight months without streams would.
If Mori wants to collab with the boys why doesn't she just do it alone? what happened bts to make her only collab with them if there's another girl?
>>49512021Luca collab vs Girls talk vs squad TTRPG lol
>>49511981
>>49512021You think that is bad? Enna will have a collab with Millie and Kyo for that sweet sweet threesome. She fucking had Kyo on her schedule image as seen here >>49512299 . I fucking hate her for doing this and I fucking hate her for saying "low key" every 5 minutes.
>>49512321Please take your meds
>>49512356Sort-of a good question. Maybe she just legitimately likes they dynamic and chemistry of the SQUAD
>>49512398
Zhangspam is the only way to teach these whores
>>49512456t. zhang
>>49511942>Mori lying to Gura and tricking her into a collab Mori invite Gura to offcollab in Mori's houseSuddenly homos cameGura locked herself in a room but eventually rapedSound real to me
>>49512428Yeah, i also don't care for Kronii
>>49512410Well, it's not the "Best" dynamic EN has per se, but it's up there (Yes, I know this board is biased, but hey, numbers talks)
I'm not going to let you forget that Fauna is a stupid fucking cunt who doesn't give a shit about her fans. She's unironically worse than Kronii in that regard.
>>49512356>Mori + Boys = small numbers>Mori + Kronii + Boys = big numbersnot that complicated to understand, really
>>49512396That is something she talked about doing a while ago, a "dating stream" but the ironic part is that Millie and Kyo will be flirting while Enna is on the sidelines interfering. It's another one of Millie's retarded ideas that's bound to end in disaster.
finally, the thread will be better
>>49510552How dare you. Don't you feel pity for the corporations?
>>49512396>KyoHe's the weakest nigga out there.https://youtu.be/WpYb0nN-1DQ?t=145
>>49512248It's a TTRPG collab it took several months to organize the goddamn finally of Mythbreakers because certain people just weren't into it and couldn't bother finding time to actually do the damn thing until Mori organized it herself just to put an end to the goddamn thing.
>>49511463>Fuck Ina too.Gladly
>>49512363Gameshow - 6-8kGirls talk - 9-10kHomocollab 18-20k
>>49512496>shitting on other girls to deflectkronies are truly cuckbeat 2.0
but why is it always magni and vesper? why can't they pick the boys from tempus batch 2?
>>49512303Because even asking is one of the rudest things you can do that aren’t the obvious schizo things. Collabing with a guy is a very unpleasant and unrewarding move for a female vtuber’s career, and asking her about it when she hasn’t shown any interest is basically asking her to kick her income stream in the balls so you can feel good about owning the unicorns.It’s a dick move, and people should be shamed for doing it, just like people who ask male collabers to stop collabing with males should also be shamed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVMoHOLbpGUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVhp2GipUNghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVgvp-FnYVYAre you guys bored?Which one of those clips has the best English translation?
>>49512524NijiEN is so impossibly shit, you couldn't write a parody that would sound that ridiculous
Homobros we eating good today.
>>49512021NijiCN is a joke
help decide the favorite indie vtuber.https://poal.me/7kxc2w
>>49512553Not a Kronie. But I know you faggots will use this to pretend Fauna did nothing despite the fact that Kronii collabing with those faggots is normal
>>49512350Does it matter? I think it will finally purge the cancer in her fanbase. Sure she will lose some money but the new fans will not have any expectations nor standards which seems to be what she is looking for based on how hard she has been trying to filter her fanbase these past 6 months
>>49512580the third one
>>49512101
>>49512553It's Fauna schizo
>>49512558Magni and Vesper got their hooks in early and are now grandfathered in. Leeching early and often pays off. Regis could have the same thing with Kobo but he gave it up because his pride got in the way. Remember, kids: Shamelessness pays.
>>49512632cope. go back to your shithole>>49481372
>>495125581)don't know2)gavis has part of fans mix with luxiem, and you know how they are
>>49512570I agree with this, but the post was mentioning that the only way Gura will be involved with anything involving the stars is through trickery
>>49512495numbers talk but they don't differentiate viewers that pay and those who don't. And talent's income was not revealed
>>49509221It's called trapped in falsehood>she knows exactly the problem>unfortunately already made a promise with the squad to do a collab at least once every two months>doesn't want to break her promise>also matter of ego of owning 'le unicorn incel'>happy with the squad collab>forget about her problem>then numbers go to shitter again after all her effort to get back into the box>trying again to get into the box>repeatOnce you go Homo collab you almost can't get back.
Good morning /MANS2/, what are we mad about today?
>>49512656the bukakke...
>>49512656Mumei isnt going to collab with your faggots
>>49512558>They have to get Mega Flygon instead of the ones they actually get along with because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>49512524Yes. From the stream she had with Meloco, she revealed that she is aware that she is using the phrase "low key" too many times, but she never address this issue in the stream.Also yes you are right they will be flirting. Have you seen Kyo x Millie's Good Job collab? Millie was fucking thirsty.
>>49512632>Not a Kronie>But
>>49512558Cus Mori wants to jump Magni and Vesper is Kroniis favorite. Why do people still ask this? Its been very obvious from the beginning
>>49512656bossu is a whore...
>>49512656Moon lust for Aruran ojisan... screw his fuccboi model.
>>49512714Aruran, Shien, Oga, and Roberu left evidence I see
>>49512606If you described NijiEN to someone from 2020, they’d think you were a far-right fanatic who was making shit up to try to vaporize “muh JP purity” or something.Only the stupidest of content creators who listen to the most deranged twitter schizos would ever actually make it a thing. Of course, we all know what path most of NijiEN’s management and talents picked.
>>4950922120k+ SQUAD numbers.
>>49512496>Fauna worse than Kroniino meds can save this anon
>>49509209it wasn't this bad in 2020, EN actually used to get new fans
>>49512671Pays what though? Mori's hogging all the ccv and their numbers tank after each collab.
>>49512718they need to save my boi hakklingzwhy are they blatantly picking favorites like that?
>>49512553>shit on her fans with "real talk">noticed she fucked up, blame the one who sent the SC and banned him>followed by doing apology ASMR>then took management's advice and went for a vacation to let things cool offYou can't make this shit up.
>>49511205my boing boing wife
>>49512528Brands are not people, so no
Annual large indie pollhttp://poal.me/7kxc2w
>>49512827just cuckronie deflecting
Reminder that homos have been a disaster for Cover and it's basically negligence at this point that they havent been graduated
Fucking homo timeloops I hate it
>>49512837What would be the way for them to get new fans now?
>>49512841Oh yeah, that's true. It doesn't pay in money or metrics.But they're owning a lot of chudcels, and that's really its own reward.
>>49512692Vespfag might not join the homo rust server
>>49512889I wonder how big they would be if the tourists who only give a fuck about mixed collabs actually watched them.
>>49512881how weird this "kronie" appeared when everybody was talking about mori...
>>49511011Every holomem, or at least EN and ID, are supposed to get one outfit per year. Of course delays are guaranteed so they don't get them that frequently.
>>49512939>Insist on RUST full pvp violence and decide to bailout instead.What a fuckking faggot.
>>49512850He picked Holotori as his leeching target.
>>49512674So you can turn this thread into a Saplings playground? Not on my fucking watch
>>49512857Fauna fucked upKronii still fucking upTell me who's worse
>>49513017Too late for that
Contrary to popular opinion, I am NOT owned and never have been owned
>>49513030Fauna is worse
>>49513030mori
>>49513017So you'd rather we have ANOTHER Kronii/Homo timeloop? Admit it, this thread has nothing of value to talk about
>>49512671The problem with Alter + Kobo is that Kobo's major audience behaves like monkeys, spamming in his chat for the next week every time he collabs with her
>two homo collabsBad day for the unicorns huh?
>Homofags>Faunaschizo>NijiniggersI see the circus has arrived early today
>>49513061fuck off kronii, stop trying to drag down mumei and stay in your tempiss hole
>>49512857>noticed she fucked up, blame the one who sent the SC and banned himNeck yourself Babski
>>49512580>first onehas some mistakes that make me think he slightly used machine translation>second oneuses the context to completely rewrite stuff, some people like it, some people don'tit's like those localized subs from crunchyroll>third oneclearly knows japanese but english is not his forte
>>49513138yawn. wake me when they score new ground.the boys have been kept at absolute standstill for months now, that looks to me like a massive gatekeeping success
When EN3 debuts, they will never collab with males and be GFE!
>>49513138Anon please, this place is all they have leftReddit, Twitter, even YT comment has already under the sister's control
>>49512857Still don't know how saplings started to see fauna as a mother figure, like an e-girlfriend sure, but an e-mother?
>>49513151>samefagging because nobody wanted to replyanon...
>>49512841Brilliant move, people can't accuse her for not giving the bois any bone while she reap(kek) all their reward.
>>49512857>You can't make this shit up.You literally fucking can because she fucking announced her vacation a whole fucking week+ prior to that Minecraft stream.
>>49512635Fans without expectations or standards don’t pay up, you imbecile. The whole reason she can get away with not streaming is because she got a bunch of people hooked at the beginning and now they’re willing to stick around even after she absconds for months on end and clearly doesn’t give a shit about streaming regularly anymore.Also, Gura is by far the most famous vtuber in the west and one of the few ENs anyone in Japan gives the slightest shit about. The people who would replace her actual fans would all be tourists who already know who she is and don’t have the strong feelings of attachment her old fans have. They’d forget about her and leave the minute she goes back to her prolonged absences.>t.one of those casual fans who doesn’t give a shit what a vtuber does and who has also never membered, superchatted, or bought merch
Even the Vshojo beggars are invading now.https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/13io6tc/sister_from_another_mother/
>>49512558My guess is their RM are friends with notMori.
>>49513105Sounds just like the homobeggars
>>49512900EN will add homos in future. You will get used to it.
Blue Lamy with the powergap. A shame green Fauna is on break
>>49513187Sorry anons, only GEChuubas can't be friends with (You)
>>49512939Huh, What's the problem? Isn't it full pvp like he wanted?
>>49513030fauna for STILL trying to eat her cake. lmao imagine separating yourself from the viewers yet still tries to roleplay with them. crazy
>>49512889the impressive part is that I see more people recommending them and begging others to watch them and "give them a try" than people actually watching their streams
>Suisei collabs with holostars and still sells boatloads of merch>gUrA wiLL LoSe a loT oF mONeY iF shE tAlks tO tHe boiz
>>495132502 mr wks
have any Niji said anything about dynamic props in the works or would they rather keep spawning 3views
>>49513249Kobokeks have some deranged shipfags, to the point from wholesome brother and sister relationship into wild incest one.
>>49513198The EN fanbase is retarded, they are genuine drooling basement dwellers going with the "hehehe mommy" meme unironically like the classic creepy weeaboo.Fauna is more like a teen or college student-like figure.
>>49513105>>49513249Honestly I think we might be seeing the first vtuber shippers that are not yurifags.
>>49513295No women.
>>49513238>ctrl+F>collabEverytime
>>49512889Took less than a year to become a 3 views. Should’ve stayed and built their own fenced backyard away
>>49512889Graduation special would just make them look shitty like kurosanji. Anyone smart has already realized to focus on appealing to their own base rather than worrying what the homos are doing.
>>49512939I think I saw a something mentioning that, initially, only 3 tempussies would join the server>fagni>flygoon>spicit was like 3 days ago, might be different now
>>49513198Maybe because they are motherless?
>>49513307That's true, none of HoloEN whores can match gigastacy Suzy and her awesomeness.
>>49513264> blue LamyShes just Lamy numbnuts. Pink and Green Lamy come from her
>>49513401Wow sounds so kinô
>>49513440Dont reply to me
>>49513030>who's worsethe literal cucks that still watch them
>>49512857>t. Retarded faunaschizo
Range ban SEA for fuck sake
should've debut as holoID, kroniiyou get free homo collab pass here
>>49513295I couldnt tell you. Some of the sisters are worried he wont. I guess he hasnt mentioned it while a bunch of other homos have confirmed theyll be there.
>>49512558Mumei and Fauna are gonna form their own SKWAD with Flayon and Hakka.
>>49513264I'll never get tired of seeing JP members getting twice as many viewers than EN when they're streaming on the most insane hours like the middle of the day when everyone is working/on school or in the fucking morning while EN struggles to get 5k on primetime PST.
>>49513238>youtuberfageverytime
>>49513440Blue Lamy’s called Blue Lamy because she has blue hair. Green Lamy and Pink Lamy are called that because they have green and pink hair. What’s the problem with that? Why are you so mad anon?
>>49513535Which one is for fauna? Flayon?
Meidos need to give Faunaschizo a longer ban
>>49512939Rust streamer servers are SHIT!! These things never goes wrong, there is ALWAYS some pussy-ass-bitch crying and causing drama.That last Rust JP streamer server was pathetic, it was just a role-play server for dating sim.The last Rust Twitch Rivals these spics were CATCH LIVE using hack and stream sniping.
>>49513401 meit was either Astel or Temma, but also said that >more people are allowed to join as long as the server is onthey are also using a similar ruleset to holo's prev server, particularly for the world loot multipliers
How fucking sad is it that the Squad collabs keep going while the latest Kromei in a while is going to be for a forced shill stream.
>>49513517won't change anything as long as phoneposters are allowed to proliferate. allowing them to stick around was m**t's last and greatest mistake.
>>49513299>imagine separating yourself from the viewers yet still tries to roleplay with them. crazyNever hire normalfag for holos. They are forcing themselves to do something they don't agree, enjoy or understand.NijiEN is the perfect environment for normalfag twitch streamers who like to use anime avatar.
We're melting down.
>>49513600(me)These things always goes wrong*Pardon, I had a stroke writing
>>49513307Anon, I don't think the people who cares about music is the same one who screech about "Muh males"Case in point, as much as this thread likes to deny: Mori
I'm confused, what is the best action for Kronii?She used to be Megalia supporter so that's a BIG NO to me but now she is also happy collabed with males.The only good thing is she stopped being male hater cultist but now she is wasting her potential to be the most powerful vtuber.
so babski turned into a new faunaschizo huh?
>>49513694>we
>>49513524So their making up rrats then? Eh, guess they will have to wait until the sever opens to find out.
>>49513580Yeah, Fauna will be Flayon's mommy
>>49513694
Hoshiyomis explain
回レ!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b45f009brb0
Oh is it "make up/misconstrue/outright lie" about what Fauna said hours?
Interesting that the thread went to shit oncethe kronii and homo collab got posted last thread. The usual cockroaches decided to crawl out of the woodworks and shit up the thread with the usual begging, fauna timeloop. I wonder who could be raiding us right now.
>>49513714termination. kick the whore out of Hololive along with Mori and their boytoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_bUhF3SCn4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_bUhF3SCn4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_bUhF3SCn4WHAT THE FLYING FUCK?
>>49513714Anon, she doesn't say preach any shit about pro-feminist, Kronii just a misguided mentally ill turbo dyke and thanks to her shitty friends for that.
>>49513809It's Fauna schizo they literally just copy paste posts from the day before
>>49513809who else but the Kronii cucks
>>49513714>collab with literal charity cases, knowing that at worst she siphons their viewers for herself>spite the predominantly male audienceNot that hard to see, anon.>>49513843sasuga
>>49513869He's here, but there's about 3 others
>>49513843>2amhuh I guess I'll watch sui after a movie then since this thread will be a dumpster fire for the foreseeable future
>>49513600I mean, the people got what they wanted on the vaultroom server>autists got their farming>newbies and casuals got their rp>viewers got their entertainmentand the only ones that lost were the hardcore players that had to live on a snoozefest
>>49513843AAAIEEEEEEEEEEEE GRADUATIONSISTERS STATUS!!!???
>>49510589>but Aruran debuted his redesign with a second outfit from the get-goNo he didn't. It was just a different jacket.
>>49513809Kronies already accepted their fates, have you?
>>49513809vespies and deadbeats deflecting
>>49513360heehehe that fanart was kinda cute ngl
>>49513714it will kick in for her in a few years when she realizes that she will never be able to make that amount of money again and that has to literally suck cock in the VA industry to get one of the lowest paying jobs in the country
>>49513714>what is the best action for Kronii?There’s literally only one option, which is to no longer be menhera, because that’s the source of all her problems. She’s too fucking depressed to really commit herself to vtubing, even though it’s really damn obvious she doesn’t have all that many other options. Menhera is the reason she handled the furore so poorly after she started collabing with Vesper. Menhera is the reason her solo streams only appeal to gachikoi who can stand the boring content without any of the things that made her popular at debut, while also collabing with males and shooting herself in the foot. Figure out which one she wants to do, understand the costs and benefits of that path, and stick to it. Which is not possible for her because she’s a menhera.
>>49513809Who evens give a shit anymore? People should have left Kronii and Mori long ago but for some reason hold out hope that they will change. They won't.
>>49513516shut up brat
>>49513714>what is the best action for KroniiOnce a slut, always a slut. Kronii gotta follow her current route to the very end. After Towa fucked up big time in the past, Towa went all out on male collabs and venture the FPS scene. It worked. >wasting her potential to be the most powerful vtuberKronii was never meant to be the top EN. Not in this Holo idolfag culture environment. I feel like Kronii is more happy this way. Krocucks are winning too.
>>49513105>spamming in his chat for the next week every time he collabs with herlel, I remember him seething because of that, it was fun
>>49513714Stop being Korean.
>"please don't put your real name">still adds an option with random real nameswdhmbt?https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame/status/1658307905454759937
>>49513714It's aligned with her belief.Megalia only hate Korean, Asian, and 'purity' males in general. She hates her own audience but still need their money.
>>49513796>Plain pancakesWoman, why!?
>>49514072>option to turn off namesGood
>>49514072It means Steve from Accounting isn't real
>>49509750He's the one that had a melty over Nene being on Playboy's influencer list, right? I can't picture him watching anime to do anything other than shit on it for content
>>49513714>being male hater cultistHoly shit, EN could have their own Kanata
>>49513918it's fantastic honestly how fast Matsuri adapted to that server. From invading and burning things down to selling porn voice packs
>>49514119are you sure about that?
>>49514144>clipwatcherchama...
>>49513714Kronii has a problem being extreme left or extreme right. Like the anon before me said, she only needs to stop being menhera
>>49513796So she likes to use crackers
>>49514129no that's Aussie nip Anime Man Joe, he's a big faggot.
>>49513796Not gonna lie. The SuiSchizo is starting to make sense after this.
>>49514144Kanata hate for homo aren't as close as Megalian roastie, newfag.
>>49510526Audience can't change anything in production, all they can do is take away their own money from the equation and tell others to do so. If it's a hobby you can still enjoy without spending money, by all means do so.You can also move to a hobby that you KNOW can't be corrupted. I've switched almost completely to Japanese media nowadays (songs, anime, streams, videos etc.) and life's been pretty good.
>>49513714Stream better games, get her shit together and stop acting like a depressed menhera, and do something that would offset the homo debuff. Towa gets a pass because she's one of the notable singers of Hololive while Kobo gets a pass because she's the biggest ID streamer that blew up for being a literal kusogaki so Kronii better do something notable.
>>49514146best part was how everyone actually followed the rules and the salt was kept at a minimum, people literally had guild-zenloss over ddos attacks and didn't rage quit
>>49513843Didn't she unironically had a paranormal case last time she played this game?
>>49509750because while gigguk watches anime, people shitting on him don't
>>49513796pancake = flat chestplain = no toysshe groped kanata
>>49514305>Kronii better do something notableHer voice is notable
JUST. DO. IT.CONSISTENTLY
>>49514305Sounds like you don’t like Kronii’s personality.
kyururun~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KshZpLMCG9o
>>49514386my cute coyote has come so far...
Menhera woman are easy prey for groomer like Vesper.
Lamy wants to turn Cover into a black company...
>>49514336Yeshttps://youtu.be/mDJhw-IH_1k
>>49514212the clipwatcher who went ballistic with the husband joke?
>>49512650>>49513173Thank you very much for the inputsReminds me to anime fansub wars decades ago
>>49514386Josh-kun that followed koyori since the beginning are the biggest winner for koyo's rise
>>49514386> long running series actually inclines over timeWhy cant EN be a quarter as motivated as Koyo. Im not asking for much. Just a quarter is fine. Ffs
>>49514484his react clip still on r/lsf i think.
>>49514386rapekoyo
>>49514386Koyo and Kaela are Cover's most deserving new hiresHope the recruitment team has the skills to identity future talent like this
Anons, agreed that anyone who joins Luca's dating stream should be considered persona-non-grata from Hololive?
I don't get it. People who watch The Squad (tm) and beggars are obviously SEA, but unicorns here are also ESL as fuck and fail basic reading comprehension.
>>49514681name them turd eater
>>49514386>Ame>episode 1>episode 2(?)>no delivery
>>49514533Koyo proves a holo doesn't have to be vtubing genius like GuraPekoKobo, all you have to do is love streaming
>>49514512I'm going to pretend to be an early day one Joshu-kun and nobody can stop me
>>49514726Basically just nuke every retard that can't pay the rice bag for their daily english lessons
>>49514533>>49514760>long running series actually inclines over timeLol, not with EN it's notYou either do something new every time or fucking die> all you have to do is love streamingNeed I point you to the total stream hours of EN?
>>49514726Spics and yuros aren't counted? lot of them watch Hololive before HoloEN boom and tempussy debuts.
>>49514594I'm on my way
>>49514760but peko loves streaming...
>>49514739So far it's Enna, Aia, Kotoka, and Elira. We're still waiting for other names.Enna is an unforgivable whore already. Aia and Kotoka are literally who and nobody cares. The one that matters so far is Elira.
https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1658334060245303296>spazzedZoomer using words she dooesn't understand. Bae's about to get cancelled. Not that it has ever worked on holos, they're immune to that crowd.
>>49509197>>49509419I don’t understand the point none of those games cater to west.
>>49514458Matsuri: sounds fun, try me
>>49514843En hasn't done anything consistently though. No Chadcast isn't consistent.
>>49514886>they're immune to that crowdUnless they're retarded and react, like the fat wigger.
>>49514886I don't think I've seen someone sperg out over spazz in like 10 years
>>49511788meanwhile, on the other side of the world
>>49514886Don't hyperventilate over the word usage bro
>>49514886Unironically who gets offended by the word spazz theirs like hundreds of different youtube channels that have that word.
>>49509878Ignore the schizos or report them
>>49514386EN: streaming is jobKoyo: lets fucking goooooKaela: I do minecraft afk in my personal off time and I got backlash
>>49515006Report them for what?
>>49514952Even a normalfag uses it in a video of his.https://youtu.be/kO9HmhwGzXs?t=969
>>49513809Stop pretending that the thread is better when you are the one doing the spamming, kill yourself.
>>49515021>Kaela: I do minecraft afk in my personal off time and I got backlashWait isn't that what happened to Kronii?
Magni raided Mori
>>49514992In what world does it seem like I mind it?
>>49515038hurting my feelings
>>49515094
>>49515094insectchama...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people
>>49514843If Gurame was still alive and fishtank was a regular thing it would be as legendary as Coco's meme review
>>49515080oh nice of him. Was that the bird one?
>>49515077I think the difference is that Kronii was doing all the parts most people stream (like building the bunker) all off-stream when that’s specifically the stuff people want to see on a solo Minecraft stream.
>>49515080>completely ignored the japanese homo
>>49515161Izuru more like izur-who
>>49515161izuru doesn't need EOPs
>>49515161Do you think Magni's viewers will stay and watch Mori or Izuru?
>>49514502I used to do subs (EN/ES/JP) when YT allowed third parties to upload subs into videos, keeping it close too the second is the best since more people will understand, after all, there's untranslatable things in any language
>>49515161To be fair Izuru probably has the raid function disabled.
Luca’s getting sub 2k for Zelda. Is it that much of a debuff?
>>49515207>>49515213Doesn't he like to filter gaijins too? I remember that form before.
>>49515122>If Gurame was still alive and fishtank was a regular thing it would be as legendary as Coco's meme reviewcoco meme = all holos involvedHow are they even comparable?
>>49515161Izuru hates EOP, I think
>>49515218Yeah, and his channel is fucking imploding too, there's also that
>>49515094This is exactly what sapkeks were doing for the past few days lmao. I would just take it like a man or change my oshi instead of being pathetic.
>>49515235He doesn't mind EOPs as long as they behave themselves, which 99% of the time they don't so he ends up being known as the gaijin hater.
>>49515003homobeggars who Bae panders to
>>49514760Don't put pekora in the same category retard. Gura and Kobo is one in a million hire their charisma and talent can't be compared to pekora. Pekora just got lucky.
>>49515244Izuru needs some good ass fucking
>>49515235yeah, shogun completely shut down liveTL on his channel
>>49515280Can you point to any of them?
>>49515304He allows liveTL in the free chat.
>>49515161Tempus would sooner sacrifice StarsJP in a volcano if it meant more clout
>>49515218He got like 5k for a 1m celebration stream after 3 raids LMAOWhy would you think he would get numbers casually playing a game
>>49515240Gurame was red hot popular so they could be the host and cohost and then have guests on. Ina was slated to go on sans Gura after the 1st episode but Ame is a dumb bitch
>>49515276based, EOPs often derail JP streams it's annoying
>>49515218karma for ruining Pomu's Minecraft content
>>49515218besides his botted outfit-reveal, this is the best stream he has right now.7 person fujobaiting collab, including all of Luxiem, that doesn't break 10k
>>49515357>literally segregation and apartheid
>>49515161This raid is pathetic. She's below 5k again.
>>49513809You.
>>49515464If he didn't do that most of the chat would be English translations of what he's saying.
>>49515470Eh it's alright, she lost about 200 people but she's retaining the rest
>>49515509oh I forgot homos chat are slow af
>>49515509Imagine having such a slow chat.
>>49515357>>49515464holy based
>>49515515There might be a "Squad" box all along.
>>49514961Makes me laugh that pekora speedrun this in order to play the new game just to see that the game is a freaking neutral to debuff
>>49515541>>49515549Such is the life of 3views. He also hates when EOPs spam emojis during his singing streams.
>>49515240Gurame is literally the heart and soul of hololive anon.
>>49511887Man VTA honestly has a lot of potential in being a chuuba group on their own, with school life lore, streaming classes n shit (with occasional guest appearances from their niji senpai), classups and graduations every 4 months etc. (with the 3 year school period being condensed into one) similar to how .Live used to be.They could even make things make financial sense by giving them png models, but allowing a more wide variety of designs to show more individuality. They could also go for more recruits (maybe get them to pay for it, similar to college) that they could train and potentially route into Anycolor (or any other company) after their 1 year training period ends, with the streaming experience being similar to being in an actual classroom just hanging with your friends and shooting the shit until the next bell. Instead it's just this husk where there's no class system, 3rd years still stay for more than 2 years wasting their time "learning" god knows what, people randomly graduate into Nijisanji regardless of class, everyone has Live2D but all the designs are soulless and there's zero chances to interact or learn from their senpai.
>>49514760Lui streams a shitton and is the worst performing of her Gen by a mile. AZKi’s incline involves max 2 couple hour streams a week.
>>49515419>host and cohost and then have guests on. They cant even talk in jp, how are they comparable to coco meme review?Without huge array of guests, the show will run out of guest soon. But gurame doing anything together is always good. Podcast is good idea too.
>>49515620The fuck? Spamming emoji during a singing stream is the norm.
>nip didn't know about hololive>nip got recommended the puyoteto tournament>nip started playing puyoteto>nip heard a holo game came to steam>nip wanted to try it>nip having fun but still doesn't know about hololivealways surprise me finding these kind of things
>>49515620Doesn't the girls chat do that?
>>49514961This is the correct way to play these long as boring games, speedrun the shit out of it instead of dragging it through Episode #34 when only 500 people are still watching
>>49514924>that doesn’t count because it ruins my point
>>49515654VTA should've just been a reality show but for vtubers and with elimination competitions every month with paid voting. It would make millions.
>>49515161>raid an EOP audience into not just a JP but one who actively refuses to pander to EOPs.
>>49512487stop projecting cluck kun
>>49515654>maybe get them to pay for itIf that happens people will spam "Kurosanji".
>>49515608Possibly. Deadbeats are in his chat the most from EN, and Mori's chat overall has a significant 9% lead over Kronii. Interestingly, Mumei and EN below her have very few members in his chat
>>49509750Usually when I see people shit on TT gigguk is the one people shit on the least. While he isn't as into anime and manga these days as he used to, he clearly still gives a fuck about it and cares about being in the anime space, unlike the other two retards who have pretty much shifted towards japanese life blog style content
>>49515077Kaela does most of the gathering off-stream while building on stream, no? I think Kronii just took the "I WANT TO HAVE FUN" route which according to her it means "playing alone/playing without the annoying chat"
>>49515661Lui's problem is she doesn't do anything interesting. When she did the horse racing thing without Peko overlap she got 11k.
>>49515661>Lui streams a shitton true but far less than Koyo and Kaela. Am I wrong?
>>49513843I still think she's leaving.
>>49515665>>49515685Yeah hes justified in his regular streams but policing karaokes is kinda menhera
>mori has to shill bluray>she spams holo collabs>she stops shilling blu ray>immediately schedules homo ttrpg and notmori streamsAm I the idiot for thinking that Mori might be able to change?
>>49515829Her content is also more intimate in general. She prefer to do this chatting collab or just chill game stream.
>>49515775Has Kronii been streaming? Her being so low is weird.
>>49513843holy shit cool.
>>49515889Yes you are.
>>49515829D you think Lui would get better numbers if she streamed even more to match Koyo/Kaela hours? The answer is no, she would get less.
>>49515889Yes, yes you are.
>>49515901>lowKronies are the second highest fanbase after deadbeats. I would say that her low overall number might be because she hasn't had many tourist streams.
>>49512904DEBUTMOREFUCKINGGIRLS
>>49515889Yes it was confirmation bias. She is and always will be garbage
>>49515423Just get ctrl c ctrl v whatever the jp audience is spamming, is it really that hard?
>>49515990EN 3 will only have male collabers
>>49516056Go away cuckposter
>>49515889She is still the third best merch mover in EN, why would she change?
>>49515618>just to see that the game is a freaking neutral to debuffImplying Pekora, of all people, wasn't already perfectly aware of that.
>>49515990EAT YOURVEGGIES
>>49516078I’m just saying the truth
>>49515885>kinda menherayou are getting really close to the reason why holostars never blew up
>>49516084>If i keep repeating this one day it will be true
>>49515889She has HoloYoi offcollab with 2 JPs literally this week.
>>49516133Is it not true anymore? Last I saw she was still third.
>>49515936I don't think so. Koyo streamed a lot and cover a lot of time zones. A variety of games. Basically capturing all kinds of audience.Grinding is not like you stream 1000 hours of Apex. Grinding is streaming a lot, bonding with holos and networking, and learn and grow as a Holo. Koyo and Kaela did that. That's why they get results.But I would like to listen to your reason. Why not?
Its up https://youtu.be/rzTWlwjCckQhttps://youtu.be/rzTWlwjCckQ
Tempiss status?
>>49515661What Lui isn't numbers, it's a husband and a baby to care. That woman wasn't made for streaming.
>>49516120For you >>49508456
>Luca losing to a SC reading and an IDGRIM
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1658344055707959296
>>49513238> Helmite fighting the good fightpoor guy is alone is a sea of snakes
>>49516222>Play with usFr... friend?
>>49516270This is why a “gamer” wave will never work for NijiEN. The audience is mostly female so they should’ve gone for something like Strawberry Prince where it’s just singing boys
>>49513714I don't have enough energy to think about Kronii man. She's chosen her road, she's not gonna change.Either keep watching her or don't, no skin off my back.
>>49516056>EN 3 will only have male collabersSo can we forgive Fauna now?
>>49516297Oh wow he isn't downvoted either
>>49516331I think NijiEN is topped out. This is the longest they've ever gone without a new wave.
>>49516213Kaela is the peak of "cool but cute" older woman chuuba, unfortunately she have the ID debuff so she'll be stuck on low 4view. Flare and Lui could have been so large if they used the same method.
>>49516235Hololive gives you a big start but unless you find a niche your not going to incline.
>>49515889The period where the BluRay sales stopped mattering was the day of the MamaMori poker collab. Since then she has had-Puyo Puyo Tetris with Towa-Idol Showdown with Watame-MythBreakers with full Myth-Idol Showdown with Ina-Idol Showdown with Kiara (impromptu)And she has HoloYoi (non alcohol version) this week. In conclusion you’re a retard.
>>49515618That is if you think in term of gold The 2 stream still generate as much hour watched as 2 50k stream for 1 hour, not a bad trade imo
Where the fuck is Nijisanji GAYMERS
>>49509679>much less kill la killYou have to be joking by saying that right? Kill la kill was massive when it released anon. 2013 was a huge year for anime to push into breaking into the mainstream because of several massive anime that built onto each other season after season, including Attack on Titan and kill la killI distinctly remember that time because kill la kill was the first time i started seeing mainstream videogame websites start reporting on anime, because IGN wrote a fluff piece about how they wanted platinum games to make a kill la kill gameFor a lot of nerds that yearish period sapnning late 2012-2013 was a huge surge of good anime and so a lot of people got into it around this time, with one of the major releases at the time being Kill la kill
>>49516283Putting that Hyte sponsorship to good use
>>49514533> long running series actually inclines over timeSee: ChadcastConsistency is not enough, you also have to be somewhat entertaining.
>>49516403>144pI see you're a man of culture. That stream was glorious.
>>49516442Kuzuha and friends already exist
>>49516056Wouldn't be surprised if it is a mixed gen. It would make it awkward for Gura to continue ignoring the boys if she interacts with the girls while actively ignoring the boys in the new mixed gen. So she will have Collab with the boys if she wants to be accepted into the new norm
>>49516195What was this thing you saw?
>>49515862Say, hoshiyomi, do you self-insert as Mochidoru? You know, since you don't have fan representation and all
>>49515122Man I still remember Gura's reaction when Ame cleared the table and brought up their feet...So much potential just... flushed down the toilet
Now this is advanced homobegging
>>49516384I can't poinpoint exactly to when it happened, maybe it was something gradual, but the subreddit has been growing spiteful of both outside people and holostars. Beggars and stars fans get a thread every now and then but as soon as they leave those they get shat on by the community at large.
>>49516128The stars have menhera that bad? I guess it makes sense. I’ve never believed that women were the problem, it’s always been menhera in general It’s just that spoiler aside, I’ve never heard about any major menhera-related yabs besides Vesper’s shit. Although I’m guessing it’s because nobody here (including me) really watches Stars, EN or JP, so most of us don’t know or talk about it.
>>49516213Some (most) people just can't do it. Be it keeping up with interesting streams for so long, beign unable to capture the right fans at the right time, having the "breakthrough" meme moment that puts you on the map, or simply having the mental/physical fortitude to stream that much and keep their throats functioning. Koyori and Kaela are the exceptions, not the rule, most other people would just be bashing their heads on a wall called JUST STREAM without results.
>>49516479>the entire post
>>49516412>HoloYoi (non alcohol version)Which JPs don't drink?
>>49516522I mean just look at this thread, what the fuck do you expect people to think when there's blatant begging lmao
>>49516568Botan.
>>49516479Go back
>>49516568Quite a few
>>49516479
>>49516506We don't self insert. We don't roleplay. Suisei just talks with us as like-minded adults.
>>49516588>my first two oshi>added more
>>49516331NijiEN would unironically become a powerhouse if they stopped using streaming as their main method and went full in on edited videos. Luca could totally become the hero of the children if we wanted
>>49516599She drinks and has no tolerance
>>49516506don't listen to that anon, we're all cute plushies with knives.
>>49516468For some reason I always feels like In The End would be THE music theme for Kaelahttps://youtu.be/eVTXPUF4Oz4
>>49515668got a link?
>>49516644Nah, they won't. Nijisanji pioneered livestreaming for vtubers, giving that up would mean admitting Hololive beat them up so badly they have to revert to the ancient ways.
>>49516506Stop posting my apartmentOnly lived there as a student years ago but this is still weird as fuck to see
>>49516588I hate how his dumb narrative is gaining influence.
>>49516331My guess as to why they went with Gamer wave is that they wanted to find their EN Kuzuha but the EN market that could watch male gamers would rather watch flesh streamers on Twitch.
>>49516641These people dont know what oshi means and they dont want to know.Welcome to the holo community in 2023.
>>49515889There's a reason people that gave her a second chance got burned by Mori 2.0's ending.Fool me twice and all that.
>>49516644Edited videos in general are underutilized for vtubers nowadays
>>49516479I've told you already, it's pretty much confirmed, that's the next logical step they have to try based on the numbers they currently get>solo bois = fucking failure>collab bois = another fucking failure>bois with girls collabs = success
>>49516747Is this guy ok?I s he having a stroke?
>>49516820No just ESL
>>49516760Is there any real desire for them? Clips basically replaced whatever the older format use to be
>>49516763Can't wait for a mix gen and they finally abandon holostars/hololive label for EN.
>>49516522I think when it comes down to it super unity fags are annoying.
>>49516633>>49516692WHO DO I BELIEVE???
>>49516763what about collab girls?
>>49516384HOLY SHIT the mod team is actually working for once!What changed?
>>49516843what girls?
>>49516763They'd never make a mixed gen with the Hololive branding. It'd be a brand new subdivision under HoloPro and the girls in the mixed gen would pretend they are real holos after about a month.
>>49516692Sui certainly doesn’t treat us like she does her plushies
>>49516846just report
Lamy kneels to the queen
>>49516588Please tell me someone in there finally pointed out that there’s a Holostars subreddit. Cover enables the beggars by letting them be in the Hololive subreddit. Fine, I get it. They make the rules, not us, and the users don’t get a say, and I don’t really care anyway.But if the Stars subreddit isn’t popular and no one posts there because it doesn’t get any views, that implies that their presence in the Hololive sub is leeching and they’re only tolerated, not actually liked.I know the OP didn’t put much thought in this post, but what I just typed was an immediate realization I had as soon as I read the pic. Is the fact that most normalfags are ok with them being around but seriously do not want to be exposed to them and shamed for not giving a shit to them THAT weird?Like holy shit, the vtubers I watch are all 3view shitters that get ignored /here/ outside their generals, much less reddit. I live with it just fine.
>>49516710Certified numetal chuuba.
>>49516843>i pretend i do not see it
>>49516522I get the weird sense that T-Chan forcibly driving the Redditors who weren't already in /vt/ into here for a day revealed that the begging on Reddit was pretty much word-for-word the same raid bullshit that was happening in /vt/, but with drastically less pretense of good faith. Turns out it wasn't Dare Demo Daisuki after all, huh? Turns out it really was just beggars from all angles, huh?
>>49516864>westoids>a monthlmao, the bitches would go full passive-aggressive if they didn't get recognized immediately
>>49516747I think Kris is probably like us at heart (hates nijis and wanted the homos to succeed at first), but because he probably hangs out in Discords a lot, his mind gets warped by their retarded echo chambers and stops him from being able to come to his own conclusions based in reality.
>>49516876Streaming is all Pekora has, of course it’s her life.
>>49516887They did and the cope was "BUT THIS IS A HOLOPRO SUBREDDIT AND THE HOLOSTARS ONE IS DEAD" and they told him to fucking post in it to make it not dead if they care so much
>>49516876Someone post the Pekora ramy soundpost onegai
>>49516846If it got reported enough, it could be auto-mod, or perhaps tchan decided to stop being lazy on the subreddit for a day.
>>49516887They did, but a beggar sperged out anyway
>>49516524The second half of your reply is 100% accurate. Although women are also part of the problem since they are extreme gatekeepers who would rather keep the "small but comfy" chats than see the boys grow.
>>49516945What the hell happened for the pro-homos to have so many downvotes?
>>49516866yeah, she kneels to us instead. https://www.youtube.com/live/TSVhLnEhGLI?feature=share&t=2614
>>49516876>it's like part of her lifeLamy do you know how long Pekora streamed? It is basically from her childhood through her adult life. Others merely adapted to streaming.
>>4951698690% of threads have some fucking retard make a joke or reference to them even when it's completely misplaced and people are getting sick of it.
>>49516986Kronii management tweet stuff -> Vesper suspension -> Tempus2 instead of EN3 -> Retarded menhera Vesper post-suspension anticsThat sequence of events absolutely obliterated the good will the Tempus1 boys had managed to scrap together and now even retarded redditors downvote everything that mentions Stars reflexively.
>>49516915>BUT THIS IS A HOLOPRO SUBREDDIT AND THE HOLOSTARS ONE IS DEADLiterally the same argument since hlg back in jp holy fuck. I want to find that faggot who posted in hlg back in the days and skin him alive now that this quote reminded me of him.
>>49516986Unikeks seething that their girls are starting to see open up to the idea that the boys are great collab partners and that unikeks are the real problem.
>>49516864anon, please, you perfectly know how mori and kronii would shape them to be>just take it easy>they don't control you, collab with whoever you wantwe are literally doomed if there's not a single member that understands JP culture and can stand her ground, a hag
>>49516950Yeah, they're a huge part of why the Stars are now being force to reach sub milestones to have the same treatment Hololive has. The guys got too comfy with their audiences coddling their decisions and just gave up going anything while Roberu and Astel are anti'd by Stars fans for trying to change the branch and pushing their name outside of their minuscule box. And then you have Aruran who's trying anything to grow but always fails to do so.>>49517051>>49517072Damn. So now their only support is Twitter retards like kris?
>>49516527I realized you are right. Throat endurance is a factor. Some chuubas can't stream a lot if even they want to. And first army's throats are fucked up. In the end a chuuba gotta be somewhat smart in the process. Try million things, identify what works and what doesn't.Try different things, do creative stream (not FOTM), bonding with holos. These 3 are a must. I don't see many ENs doing it.
>>49516752An EN King is the white whale Nijisanji and Cover haven’t found yet surprisingly enough with the former being borderline broken from it
>>49516887It's been pointed out multiple times, but as long as the subreddit moderation doesn't force it, the beggars will NEVER use it. They're too damn lazy to try and actually make stuff for DA BOIZ only and instead want to desperately LEECH from Hololive.
>>49517087I kept telling him that NO MALES were allowed on /hlg/ but he never listened
>>49517072You should start with IRyS, that was the first blow and the first time it was publicly okay to say no
>>49517087https://files.catbox.moe/cmk2p0.mp4
>>49517120There is one among the indies, but she has expressed to not want to go corpo despite having collabed with both Holo and Niji.
>>49516827Yeah, let unsupervised cash grabbing rats become the main method for your content to spread, it won't create a culture of low-effort clips full of clickbait that never actually tries to depict your content in a good light but only how it will attract clicks through drama, works wonders, we all love clipniggers here right, anon?
>>49509340>Gunis that a far-west tabletop rpg? The Squad fans getting a large helping of Mori sheriff impression, for two days straight.
>>49516876I've seen quite a few JP vtubers talk aboud pegor lately too, good to see we have an actually good role model for vtubersfor example, vspo's chuna yesterday was talking about how entertaining pegor was when watching her play zelda
>>49517191BASED BASED BASED
>>49516720>pride above all elseclassic chinese move
>>49517167Didn't that happen before Vesper's suspension?
>>49517110That wasn't what I was saying, they're obviously gonna be cut from the same cloth Mori is. I was saying this new mixed gen wouldn't be hololibe but the girls in it would try to pass themselves off as pure blooded holos.
>>49517242Yeah it was in September
>>49517207Link the timestamp
On a scale of 1-10 I miss Fauna at about an 8. I used numbers so this is a numbers related post.
>>49517254Wasn't that the highest point of collabbegging/Stars shilling? Was there that much of a pushback against those kinds?
>>49516747>blah blah nonsenseKris-chama lately been play around with AI i see.
>>49517072>Retarded menhera Vesper post-suspension anticsHas any existing Star JP created a huge menhera moment like this?
>>49507752is that homo TTRPG adventure? Do Kronii even cares about this shit? If so why CouncilRyS doesn't do their own session, this homo squad feels like a foreign body dividing holo EN making Kronii feel distant from other girls.
>>49517303It was the first time I recall since tempiss debut that there was a noticeable pushback on leddit and in the youtube comments. >>49508673There was the Kiara moment as well a little while later, I think responding to a beggar with the Yagoo on holotalk clip. It was the peak and it started to decline after that once there was actual push back, THEN the Kronii shit happened
>>49516876I am too used to Pekora being hated on this board that this all seem surreal to me, like fake compliments to suck her up
>>49517350The only other person in Council who gives a shit about TTRPG is Fauna and she does not trust her ability to DM
>>49516876I also do
>>49517293it was a karaoke that turned into members only at the end
A cancelled stream left for days, does it fuck him in the algo?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNucXsGWYuU
>>49516907>Streaming is all Pekora has, of course it’s her life.If true it doesn't explain how the chicken got cold in first place.
I just realized, NijieN as whole both livers and managements have too much pride about Hololive.At the end they don't want to admit idol and CGDCT are thrieving
>>49517393Nobody play the role of an evil overlord than Pekora, she literally was built for it
>>49517370And now not even reddit wants to deal with beggars. Christ, I guess the HoloPro unity dream is really dead, especially when the homos biggest "supporters" think watching clips will help them in any way.
>>49517298Extremely cringe behavior.Do you think number thread is really about number?Depends on the time of the day, different things are posted here, mostly news and drama, but also got some stream discussion.Your post is just a shitpost as any other even with some inclusion of numbers.
>>49517136>>>/jp/32860200>>>/jp/32835985>>>/jp/32790780>>>/jp/32751379>>>/jp/32743941>>>/jp/32712448>>>/jp/32698837>>>/jp/32698818Honestly based
>>49517453>especially when the homos biggest "supporters" think watching clips will help them in any way.and when being told that it doesn't and that you should actually watch streams they'll reply you're gatekeeping the hobby and have no right to tell other people how to be fans/tell them they're not real fans
>>49517442I can, she just take a day off, just like when she took a day off every week now
>>49517411I don't think we've ever had any evidence either way for reservations left up forever. But I'd guess it's probably not a good thing to do and he needs to stop being lazy and take that shit down. If I were to speculate on why it might be bad, Youtube could be serving that stream reservation to lots of people, seeing them click on it then leave when they realize it isn't actually happening, and then might fuck him over for having bad retention. But it's not live, so whatever code does that might not trigger.
>>49517193He’s probably still out there. YouTube has plenty of channels and creators dedicated to gaming thats not just FPS
>>49517072Lockdown on tempoop announcement was one of the deathblows to the reddit goodwill. Especially if I recall correctly it was the day before Ame’s birthday, that pissed off the teamates who wanted to post about their oshi on the hololive subreddit but couldn’t because of the homos
>>49517483So in the end Stars fans will always be the same regardless of their geographical location. Amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_bUhF3SCn4
>>49516522>a few schizos seething and screeching mean they are getting shat on by the community at large
>>49516712https://twitter.com/limit_attacker/status/1658316397855010816
>>49517443>At the end they don't want to admit idol and CGDCT are thrievingNah they knew, they are just being retarded. It takes a real idiot not to understand the logic of why holos never mentioned about current boyfriend or spouse, while they can talk about friends, family and stuff.
I LIKED the original four tempus boys. There has been more collabs with the squad then there has been just the four tempus guild. They fucked something up after Vespers suspension, there’s not even any creative streams. Even the new ones don’t push any original stream ideas. It could’ve grown into something different and everything just shit the bed
>>49517520And I'm pretty sure the lockdown was lifted after her birthday so a lot of teamates flocked to the Tempus 2 announcement post to talk about it.
>>49517588Men don't like unavailable women.
>>49507927If she was calculating she wouldn't have done this shit, they can flirt on discord all they want but collabs bring her nothing other than hate and lost gachi she gains nothing out of this charity, homos are fucking useless. They don't really gain anything either other than prestige of collabing with some holos but their numbers keep reclining either way.
>>49517520Not to mention it was at the behest of a discord channel kek
>>49517483Do they really?Just leave it open for 3 minutes and click the like buttonIs that really too much for them?
>>49516846sorry, it was me, is just that she wasn't related to holo, nor was doing a collab recently with holo, nor sharing the same mama with holo, it was a meme for r/vyt
>>49517653You should've seen the replies to that Kris's call to arms to watch the homos
>>49517619It's oonga boonga caveman subconscious shit.Even if people are there for the content (and they are, nobody watched boring female streamers, they have to be hot or funny) the primitive lizard brain still wants to be around available cute young women. It just soothes the male mind.
>>49517626I mean it her own fault at this point so whatever.
>>49516644There’s a reason Kizuna Ai, Mirai Akari and all the others from that era are dead.
>>49517207This is not true btw.
>>49517533>Wanted to stream at this hour for the foreign viewersBut it's midnight on the other side of the world suityan...
>>49517588CDCGT literally was the anti-Twitch content people been looking for. For the longest time, female streamers and their viewer are laughed at because most, if not all of them, bring their bf into their content and their viewer are cucks in the most traditional senseVtuber finally offer a way to separate that shit from their content and now these cuck out of nowhere have the ball to call that kind of content bad
Holocope.
https://youtu.be/5ftH_7D2eycmale video protagonist again... blue journey is gonna end with tempus 3 or another starsJP
>>49517731Technically 11pm for PST but yeah 2AM for EST and like 1AM for CST
>>49517483Technically, they have a point in that not everyone has to watch streams. But what they’re saying is “my time is more important to me than Tempus’ success”. Which is fine. But that’s true of everyone else too, and if the people who actually care whether Tempus succeeds or not don’t watch the streams, who fucking will?Do they think harassing the one group of people who do watch streams any time they so much as admit they don’t really care about males is going to do it?This is peak cognitive dissonance, and the reason I don’t wonder why medieval peasants were so retarded. Because we’ve always been this retarded as a species.
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1658351650598424576THE FINAL YAB IS HERE
>>49517738Cope
>>49517603Yes, we know Tempus could have thrived with the original four, but everyone from all the talents, management, and upper management shit the bed with their handling
>>49517735That is nice about CGDCT but do you want to be real with me? If you want me to be real, I'll be real.
>>49517763>Aqua and Miko agreeing to be part of a project related to HolostarsThis is advanced retardation.
>>49516522because in all the constant shitstorm tranny-chan doesn't even ban people that shamelessly call the girls that don't homocollab whores for days, last time had to circumvent directly to reddit admins to get a fucking ban.
>>49517807>Slight fatty liverJapanese drinking culture...
>>49517819Your telling me that trying to cuck the audience your trying to court was a idea? They really missed the bro in brotuber.
>>49517350KYS crossposter
>>49517411I noticed that there's a test stream frame from before someone debuted and sometimes they forgot to private it so they're just... therehttps://youtu.be/sBF2XYj_Kp4
>>49517786The thing is they don't even HAVE TO WATCH. That's the thing. I don't fucking watch Bae because she filters the ever-loving shit out of me but my oshi gives a shit about her so I feel obligated to at least give her a click. So whenever my oshi isn't streaming I go to play vidya or watch some show or something, and when I do I just put on a stream or vod, lower the volume, put a pillow on it just to make sure, and then put on headphones and do whatever I want. She gets the click, the watch time, the premium boost, and I can freely do whatever I want for the next hour. I do this with Mumei too, and sometimes Kronii when I can be fucked to remember she exists. Maybe I'm mentally ill for doing this, I don't know. I just feel like people try to come up with all these excuses when there are things they can do.
>>49517873Things are that bad over there?
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1658355347722219521https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1658355347722219521https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1658355347722219521Mikovid
>>49517811which plushie will be the fumo of hololive, the F&U or the mochis?
>>49517721Boring content? Don't try blaming "the meta", people will watch you if make good content even after a decade.
>>49517851how about vtuber without bf? They can totally be real right? (assuming they are not entitled bitch)
>>49517873Their not even in the reddit anymore. Their in their discord cave with all their groomers.
>>49517997migo...why is it in the EN twitter
>>49517653Nta but they sound like an underage retard who doesn't understand how the industry work.
>>49517997so... who else did the robot got?
>>49517997>hololive_en????
>>49518023drunk manager
>>49517997They put it on the wrong fucking account kek
>>49517997migger confirmed enintern logged into the wrong account baka
>>49518023Intern logged onto the wrong account
>>49518001The F&UMochi are the sukusuku of Hololive
>>49517997Suisei's voice sounds so rough rn, i think she's also developing a symptom of covid. I
>>49518059>>49518070>>49518075>>49518087Bros…that account also post translated version of JP news…It’s not that weird for them to post about Miko there
>>49517989> Maybe I'm mentally ill for doing this, I don't know.I’m going to be real with you, chief, I’m not sure either. But the funny part is that this is what K-pop stans do all the time. Given that we all know homobeggars have a higher proportion of women than the main Hololive audience (it’s just how it works, male vtubers have more women in the audience and female vtubers have more men, duh), you’d think they’d be aware of this.I’m pretty sure they’re loath to do it because that would mean admitting defeat. They really want proof that Stars is popular even though we all know that’s impossible because that’s not true. They’re popular where it doesn’t matter and just doing mediocre where it does, and they can’t just be happy with that in a scene where doing “mediocre” still puts you in the top 1% of streamers.