/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you realized you could have had 2 gens of girls instead of holo tempiss

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OP just cant stop thinking about men

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OP always thinking about men and Selen graduation deflection thread

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>2 gens of more lazy whores
Replace management before even thinking about en3. There's no excuse for the biggest vtuber company in the world to hire dead weights like Sana and Ina over girls like Filian or Selen.

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Prigozhin still not getting his shells deflection thread

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>>49349743
Selen what? rrats?

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>another round of TDF calling everyone who doesn't like his homos a nijinig
That's not helping your case here, anons. Especially when your "boys" are now competing with Iluna for the last place.

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>>49349613
Bae is such a retard
Who the fuck gives people a spoonful of vegemite? Apply it to a buttered toast.

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but it's not the same audience

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>>49350667
Yeah, and the audience they got is already leaving.

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I don't believe tempus has any direct relation to wether or not EN3 is a thing, but if it did somehow waste resources that would have gone into EN3 then for sure was a HUGE mistake.

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>>49350667
>girls
>big audience
>homos
>no audience
Wow you're right

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>>49349613
The existing 2 gens were a disappointment, what makes you think the next two would be any different? If anything, you'd expect that Cover already skimmed off the cream, and any further gens will only get worse.
If you haven't found an oshi yet, maybe try a jp member instead? I'm quite happy with mine.

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>>49350667
>but it's not the same audience
And the 'audience' they got wasn't worth the opportunity cost. I get why they did it with Homo1 because of how Luxiem got the Chinese audience but what the fuck were they thinking pushing out Homo2 so early and already auditioning for Homo3? What the fuck is wrong with EN management?

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>>49351254
wow let's expand our market by making more of the same thing

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>>49351303
idk anon, maybe they're looking for a male Gura

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>>49351257
Why not Indonesia? They speak japanese and english.

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>>49351330
It worked for JP

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>>49351403
The problem is that even if they found a guy with that kind of talent willing to be in Homo3, the Homostar brand and association with Hololive would be a noose for him.

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This is the 3rd Tempiss shill thread today.
Keep going advertising sister. Your attempts at "shitting" on them is only seen as advertising because everyone already knows they get shit numbers.

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>>49351303
for what ive seen in ither threads, the retards hired 6 members instead of 4, because they clown and falyon were "too good" to let go, so instead of getting rid of the blue homo and flayon they decided to hire other 2 and release tempus 2 asap, yeah they were that stupid

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>>49351773
They should do that again with tempus 3 and 4
EN's death needs to accelerate to the point where they either cut off all homos or die together

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>>49349613
They killed HoloEN.
HoloEN is dead.
R.I.P.

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>>49351196
What more proof do you want? Radio silence about the female auditions for 13 months, almost 2 years with no new HoloEN gen, 8 dudes pushed in less than 6 months, Tempus 1 was shilled harder than any other foreign gen with a bunch of shit that has been NijiEN staples. Tempus was Cover's answer to Luxiem, that's is extremely obvious and I still don't get why so many anons refuse to accept this, and either the EN staff convinced the JP higher or they thought about it themselves that the western audience would be much more open to male group than the JP one so they are EN3's replacement. They're not HoloLIVE EN3 and will never be, but they are HoloPRO EN3 and in a scenario that they end up as popular as the girls (or worse, more popular) we would probably see a much harder push for that angle. That didn't happen, they are nowadays doing only marginally better than StarsJP and this update to their site came after 3/4ths Tempus 2 almost instantly became 3views after debut, so even if we still have some sequelae from that plan such as the HoloPro twitter it's likely that things internally have changed after Tempus didn't bring the same volume of new fans like Luxiem did.

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>Tempus 1 was shilled harder than any other foreign gen
This is a lie, ShilloX exists. I don't remember seeing ANY posters about Tempus plastered anywhere IRL. Picrel.

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>>49352761
Reading comprehension reps, now. You even quoted the crucial word.

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>>49349613
look who's projecting

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>>49351454
Not only it worked really well for JP they also debuted 28 (and every soon to be 33) girls on the same time it took EN to debut 11 and lose one, but for some reason a portion of the EN fanbase convinced themselves that doing this with HoloEN wouldn't work and they HAD to debut 8 dudes in quick succession without a single girl gen in-between because chasing Luxiem was infinitely more important than nurturing what should've been their main focus.

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>>49351330
>he fell for the blue ocean meme

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>>49352761
>Tempus 1 was shilled harder than any other foreign gen
>shiller harder than any other foreign gen
>than any other foreign gen
>foreign gen
>foreign
You Tempus shills really strive to be are more retarded than the nijinigs.

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>>49352853
Passed the retard check

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>>49351430
Probably because they're not unicorn-friendly, considering the kind of thread we're in...

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>>49351257
And the existing 2 Tempus gens are an even bigger disappointment than Myth and Council. Your point?

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>>49351257
Stop LARPing you cringe faggot. You will never be Japanese.

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>>49349897
>Fillian
Lol what a piece of shit. She can't do anything at all if she couldn't steal YouTube videos.

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>>49352811
>B-b-but what about niji

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>>49349613
There could be 8 more girls right now bros….

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>>49350298
How much longer do you think the “free advertisement/u r gay” posting will stay the go to?

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>>49351257
I have an inherent bias for the girls in Hololive. They don’t have to be perfect, they just have to not be some retarded Yabbing Niji or a fucking wasted slot faggot debut.

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>>49350051

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I blame omegay and t-chan

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>>49353754
More that it illustrates that the western male vtuber market was fool's gold that was heavily dependent on the Chinese.

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>I can't stop thinking about cock, the thread
>endless homo seethe thread
I don't understand why you're not doing anything about it and you're just here endlessly seething at their existence. Why don't you do something about it you pussy faggot? instead of making several threads about wishing you could take a cock in your ass.

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>>49353658
Looks like I hit a nerve.

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>>49354093
Doesn't look like they'll ever stop doing it and it'll probably only get worse the more of a failure they become. >>49355352

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>>49354002
wouldn't make a difference, every single anon in here would get bored after several months and move on to the next asking for another gen. You're discarding your old oshis for new ones and that's not loyalty bros

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>>49355863
>projecting this hard
Mad that the 8 faggots they got were so fucking boring?

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>>49356318
>failed to read between the lines
I didn't mention any homos now did I?

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>>49356485
>not understanding what projection means
Not just a faggot but a newfag as well? Christ.

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>>49349613
is he eating vegemite instead of marmite ?

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>>49351454
Because the Japanese have nothing better to do.

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>>49357005
Yeah Bae made him eat pure Vegemite.

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>>49357344
bealz still not a million subs and demanding million sub gifts ?

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>>49357195
The fuck are you talking about?

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>>49354846
Has Omega had any noticeable influence as of recently?

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>>49349613
Problem is, the talent pool is already mostly drained. There is definitely still some diamonds in the rough, but it's hardly worth ruining the company image by doing what niji is doing and just hiring literally anyone.

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>>49360968
Last twitter activity was on September 29th, making this his longest hiatus since the one before Tempus announcement. A-chan has been much more proactive with her interactions with the EN branch lately, and someone found on likedin that there's a new branch director or something like that hired back in December, tho I don't know how trustworthy that information is.

>>49361062
>same drained talent pool excuse
And dropping 8 faggots that are now performing worse than NijiEN did wonders for the company image, right?

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>>49357195
they hate him because he spoke the truth

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>>49356682
NTA, but I think you misunderstood no offense

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>>49357964
You know exactly what I'm fucking talking about you deranged idiot.
They want to see cute girls. Most of them comprise of Otaku and since vtubers are le real anime women, they'll of course try to vye for their love even though it'll never happen.
If the chuuba plays a gacha game sponsored by a company like FGO then they're all gonna come flooding in hoping to leech off streamer luck.
They would much rather pump more anime so that Otaku could spend their money instead of spending even half of that energy trying to get their birth rate up.

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>>49362540
So they like something you don't and you're mad about it? Gotcha.

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>>49349897
Filian? Surely you're kidding anon, right? RIGHT??

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>>49351257
That was always the dumbest argument, because even at their worst a new gen would've been 10 times more successful than tempiss and tempiss some more.

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>>49349897
lol twitchbeggars deserve the rope

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>>49361062
They're half a gen by themselves.

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>>49352636
We know for sure they were in negotiations with a big talent for a while. This talents contract only expired this month. But I suspect the reason en3 did not debut last year was because there was some serious issue with the selected talents.
But it's also possible that holo thought a male gen would be as popular as a female gen based off of luxiems (heavily bot driven) success. Duped by Tazumi buttering up investors with huge CCV numbers, holo attempted to broach this market quickly in order to not completely cede the entire field to Niji. This might explain why holo pushed out 8 talents in a very short timetable.
It's also probable that it's a mix of both of these things. But everything we know today is that at least one major talent has graduated last week and is very likely to be the next holo gen. Cover has also put out a statement saying that they will expand holo en and id this fiscal year, so before march.
We also know that holo en and id have a concert in 2 months which would be a perfect time to announce a new gen.
But we will just have to see. You should expect holoen3 soon though. Certainly before August so it can have an effect on Covers fiscal year.

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Yagoo will wait for 2 or more graduations before releasing a new gen.

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>>49355863
To be fair, sometimes you don't find your oshi in the first or second gen.

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>>49363256
These retards will either ignore it or use the "they're Holostars, not Hololive" excuse while also saying they're EN3.

>>49363371
Who's this likely EN member who graduated recently? Also I will never buy the "serious issues with the selected talents" cope. That has never EVER happen before on any gen of any branch, but you expect me to believe this is the likely explanation for no EN3 for almost 2 years after everything that has happened last year? This is absurdly convenient and I'm pretty sure people started saying this before Vesper's suspension as a way to say that guys are less problematic than girls and to prop up the homos.

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>>49364095
Fuck, tagged the wrong anon >>49363763

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>>49364095
>who
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ezL9m_tQs

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>>49364095
I didn't say it was the only reason or that it's confirmed. Only that it's possible. You have seen this with other companies and even holoCN who decided to graduate as a gen because of friction with Cover. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that several members decided not to debut or decided to leave or postpone because of mental or other issues.
But as I said I think it's a combination of things. A new holoEN gen wasn't ready and Cover wanted to get some of the (fake) market that Luxiem were gobbling up. It would have been silly for them to completely ignore what they believed to be a huge untapped market and probably were quite panicked to get in there as quick as possible.
I think a combination of these things caused holoen3 to be skipped last year.

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>>49349613

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>>49361062
The talent pool is humanity which is growing exponentially, it's infinite. Everyday talented peoples are reaching age of adulthood. This is why tv talent show like the voice are still going this strong all around the world despite being older than a decade. Hololive needs to hire scouts.

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>>49364275
>big talent
>27.5k YT subs
>38k Twitch followers
>biggest video is only 631k viewers
I'm not someone who believes new members must have Gura tier numbers, but it's disingenuous to call her a big talent. In any way I'm not really feeling her style of music but she seems like a good fit for HoloEN, especially if Cover will try to make EN 3D streams more frequent now that they just finished building their shiny new studio and with the whole world coming back to normal. Wasn't there a bilingual chuuba who graduated around the time people thought EN3 would drop last year?

>>49364483
HoloCN is in no way comparable when the problem was how their managers were from bilibili and the site sent an ultimatum to Cover. Yeah, some of the talents were caught sending harassment or telling their fans to send harassment to Coco and Hololive as a whole, but the thing that made Cover close the branch was the whole bullshit with that site. Also, again, there's no way any of the "wasn't ready" or "members dropped due to x" makes any sense when it never happened before. There's no precedent for any of that and Cover was pushing for StarsEN auditions as early as March of 2022. Occam's razor makes it much more likely that Cover was more focused in dealing with Luxiem and Anycolor's rapid expansion on the western male vtuber market than nurturing HoloEN and (mistakenly) thought the western audience would accept a StarsEN the same way they accepted Myth and Council.

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>>49364483
It’s a mix of not wanting Nijisanji to have a monopoly on the male vtuber market again and trying to get these guys streaming before they went public.
Just imagine if they debut both Tempus gens after they went public and it failed, stock would crash and investors would want Yagoo’s head.

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>>49350229
only rrats.

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>>49362655
I simply stated the nip viewers would much rather watch vtubers than do anything productive. I like vtubers. I don't like the zealots glorifying the Vtuber because they tend to have screws loose.

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>>49365021
>Omg her ccv is 667 and!
My man thinks he knows who is a big talent or not based on YouTube views lmao.

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>>49365021
I typed out a big spoon-feed post but Joot ate it. She is a big talent and you need to spend less time in /numbers/. Shes also friends with Gura and Mori, has big music industry contacts and her previous company was with a guy producing songs for Beyonce, Drake and other very big name talents in the industry. She left that company a week ago. Her song was viral on tiltok and she mainly streamed on twitch. For vtubers she's a pretty well known and large talent. She's also model sisters with melody and there was a big controversy around that. It's probably part of the reason she left her previous company.
>HoloCN
It's comparable.
I know what happened and you don't need to rehash it. The reality is that multiple talents can decide to just up and leave for various reasons or a common reason between them. There was that whole gen from another company who left for similar reasons. There's individual talents who leave all the time for mental issues. Or indeed talents who have friction with other talents that can spiral out of control.
We just don't know. You can Occam's razor all you want but the reality is you don't have a clue what's happened, no one does.
But they have been holding auditions and they still have them open. They have been in talks with talents and yfu was in talks with a company that's probably cover mid last year.
But Tempus was a sudden thing in response to luxifake and to think they just stopped everything with en3 because of that would be very unlikely. Probably they just didn't have the talents they wanted and were willing to wait for more auditions. They also probably thought people would be happy with tempiss and we're mistaken. But let's just remember were all talking out of our asses on this.

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>>49365021
>biggest video is 631k viewers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc09khxyXfA
She did a song for Belle Delphine at 25million views.

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>>49365765
K, and how does this relate to this whole chain? HoloEN3 would fail because it would be more of the same but Tempus was a good idea when they're starting to perform worse than Iluna?

>>49366016
The absolute majority of people in this hellhole who use "big talent" to talk about anyone is referring to their popularity, not their overall talent.

>>49366697
Well this is the first time I've heard of her. That aside you're right that we all talking out of our asses, but there's no precedent of a chunk from a to-be-announced gen dropping out before debut within HoloPro. This isn't like Kawaii with the entire third gen leaving because of (allegedly) management bullshit, or 3 members of Vshojo leaving because of of their contracts, you're proposing that Cover had at least a partial gen ready and the girls decided to just leave for whatever reason and creating scenarios to explain this happening. Why is this more likely than just Cover putting HoloEN on the backburner to laser focus on the western male vtuber market? They pushed the auditions for StarsEN 3 times in under a year while the first they mentioned the HoloLIVE EN one was 13 months after the open auditions started. Is this again another coincidence and Cover just has this insanely high standards that somehow don't apply with the male hires considering how fucking boring they are?

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>>49349613
I like holostars. I get the seethe, but at the same time think it's fucking retarded. They've never done anything to try and undermine or challenge the NO MALES crowd. They keep to their own except for the few girls that are willing to interact with them. Not saying now to collabs isn't a crime and it isn't their job to uphold the "purity" of someone like kronii or mori who don't give a fuck.

It's like the new gundam series, witch from mercury. I fucking hate that their turning the cool robot show about cool dudes and autismos into another shitty yuri bait CGDCT shit fest, but I just ignore it and things that feature the series I skip around, like reveiwers checking out the new kits. I don't sperg out at the reviewer or anything like that. It's a thing I don't like that exists and I can easily just not let it live rent free in my head.

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>>49368020
Judging popularity based on youtube views is retarded. That's my point. Also you missed the 25m view video. Again youtube is not the only measure of popularity unless you're a numbers poster.
>first time I've heard of her
Not disparaging you but you're probably new then. She's been around a while and was heavily involved with one of melody's big yabs.
>no precedent
Sure there is. HoloCN and whatever that gen was recently for another company who graduated together to stick it to management about their contracts being shit. You even have vshojo who have 3 talents leaving at once this month. Not sure why you don't think there is precedence.
But I'm not even saying that's happened. I'm saying that en3 probably had issues that meant they weren't ready to come out of the oven last year. They have been holding auditions and they have been scouting.
Just because Tempus debuted doesn't mean they just dumped all that work. Probably they realized things weren't ready and pushed ahead with Tempus 1 and 2 instead.
Whe. You get into the reeds about what exactly happened it's just fanfic at that point. But saying talents may have dropped out after being accepted isn't as farfetched as you're saying.

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>>49368121
You're too good for this board, please leave while you can

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>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE tempiss delayed EN3
I mean, the JP side had no issue debuting Uproar after a few months from Holox's debut, so i fail to see the issue here, it's either all on EN management being (once again) incompetent or them being VERY picky with their potential talent pool

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>>49368871
Upwho weren't the first male gen of their whole branch, nor were they released in a hurry to try leeching from Luxiem

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>>49349613
I agree with >>49368871
Sana throwing away her golden ticket ASAP probably delayed EN3 more than anything tempiss did

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>>49368556
>new
I just don't pay attention to whatever is happening with Vshojo so I never heard of her. Also funny how you completely forgot the "no precedent [...] within HoloPro". HoloCN was never HoloPro proper because they were under a contract Cover made with bilibili and their managers were from the site, which is why they went rogue during the Taiwan debacle. Same thing happens with Anycolor and VirtualReal, which is why they aren't called NijiCN. That aside if we entertain the idea that Cover somehow had an EN3 at least partially ready but didn't debut last year for whatever reason then what in the fuck happened behind the scenes? What is this event that made something that has never happened before with any of their branches somehow happen with the EN branch on the same year they decided to push hard for StarsEN? That would imply Cover or at least the people in charge of EN are INSANELY incompetent to lose hired members before their debuts were even announced when they held off the clown and the twink for at least 7 months before debuting them on Tempus 2. Either way you can continue to believe in what you want, but it sounds way too much that you're high on cope and doesn't want to accept that Cover (mistakenly) changed their focus to StarsEN for 2022.

>>49368871
The thing with Uproar is that they debuted around the same time another Hololive gen debuted, which is a noticeable thing that has happened with every single Holostars gens before Tempus. StarsJP1 debuted around a week before Sankisei, StarsJP2 on the same month as JP4, StarsJP3 a few weeks after ID1 and Uproar a few days after ID3. Tempus as a whole was the very first Holostars gen to debut by themselves, while it's been 16 months since the start of open auditions and there is no sign of EN3 and there's only a little over 9 weeks left for HoloEN to beat Uproar's record of longest wait for a new gen.

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>>49350124
>Prigozhin still not getting his shells deflection thread

What are you talking about Anon, you didn't see the pictures of the captured Russian tank with all the macaroni in it? Putin sent him a whole bushel of shells, and also some elbow macaroni.

>>49369902
Honestly after the whole Sana debacle it makes sense that they'd be a lot more stringent about who they hire for EN3, assuming they even get a Gen3.

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>>49368121
They're a spinoff. You don't make two spinoffs when your main series is bleeding fans.

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>>49370257
>Sana
It was their fault to nepohire someone with little to no experience of content creation before Hololive. Also there's a limit to how stringent they can allow themselves to be, and elevating the standards too high will not help them at all and will only make potential candidates give up and go straight to the other options. Also how the hell they're stringent when the 8 faggots they got completely failed to gain and retain a new audience, not to mention Vesper whole suspension bullshit and Magni doing a Mori and increasing his rm activity tenfold? If those are their new standards than there's a chance the new girls will end up being worse than Sana.

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I don't watch male vtubers, ESPECIALLY not the tempus shitters or the dumb hookers in holoEN that shill the fuck out of them and I never will. Cover, yagoo and homobeggars are just gonna have to live with the fact that no matter how much they force them into shit there's always gonna be people like me who will never watch those boring useless queers and I will never support them in any way. Just gotta hold that L, hold that shit and seethe harder.

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>>49351257
HoloJP gen 3 is much better than the first and second gen, though
And between two new gen of girls and two new gen of boys, it's obvious which one is better

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>>49349689
kek

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>>49371032
On paper their tempus hires didn't really seem bad but it's clear now that some of them just couldn't learn how to be an entertaining streamer (and they don't have the safety net of being a cute girl). I think Magni and Vesper in particular suffer from not expecting management to be as anal as they are and to be shit at getting them game perms.

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>>49349613
EAT YOUR VEGGIES, YAGOO!

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>>49349897
cover wouldn't be able to pay for Filian or Shylily
they make more than most hololive members anyway

[Anonymous No.]

Time for Uproar 2 and Tempus 3 this summer!

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Better late than never. I was worried about the competition getting more of the market with their acceleration plans while HoloEN stays stagnant. Worried for nothing. The girls held up on their own without Gura and Ina. And now, just look at them. Sorry for their talents.
Though I rarely watch Stars, I don't mind they exist solely for taking some of the competition's market. They will prevail and grow....even if they did nothing.

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>>49365210
Wat? Vshojo getting stronger?

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>>49368871
>or them being VERY picky with their potential talent pool
You must think gullible is written on the ceiling if you can believe this after Council.

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ESLs STILL CRYING about no EN3. You third worlders only have Youtube to watch so you will never learn: western girls don't want to be vtubers. Why put in that work and money when you can take selfies and twerk all over onlyfans and tiktok for thirsty males?

Go back to your mud huts and learn Japanese already.

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>>49368121
You took ame away from me

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>>49349689
weird deflection but okay

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>>49372143
On paper Sana also didn't really seem bad. She had the same profile as Ina who also wasn't experience in content creation but at least during her first year and a half she managed to carve a decently sized audience on an underutilized timeslot with a type of stream that wasn't very common within Hololive.

>>49373894
Kek. And it'll only get worse for them.

>>49374711
>Uproar 2
Another retard who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

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>>49376405
>defending the blatant nepotism hire

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>>49376563
they're not wrong.
Ina survives on the COVID buff and the audience she cultivated from it

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>>49376563
So we're gonna start shitting on all of Gamers now? Nepohiring only turned into this horrible thing because Sana was a failure, and before her nobody had a problem with it and people even speculated if any of the Myth's friends would end up in HoloEN2.

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>>49349613
>Bryansk aircraft genocide deflection thread

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>>49376563
True, Korone, Mio and Okayu should be fired.

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>>49378331
>Unironically okay when Japan does it
Sometimes I wonder if there's other instances of nepotism behind HoloEN, like Gura, Kronii and Irys

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>>49349613
Don't use Yagoo to shitpost tempus.

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>>49349613
HoloEN ought to have a bright future coz EN market is huge. But myth and council are lazy, have no unity and passion. Tempus is just the final nail on the coffin.
I think EN3 will determine the long term prospect for HoloEN. By the way adition of Star gen 2 didn't boost Holostar greatly.

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>>49349613
>ANOTHER tempus seethe thread

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>>49349613
>Translation: EN3's applicants were so bad he would rather release two gens of males instead

[Anonymous No.]

Pika in Vshovecocksineveryholejo. GG Yagdabadoo, thats why EN3 will never happen, this dumb yellow retard is sleeping while every other corpo grabs the only decend girls left.

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>>49379781
Cant blame OP if he doesn't want more dicks. Especially boring ones.

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>>49349613
this is still a homobeggar thread
lol gay

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>>49380162
He's the one who brings them up the most though so it's entirely his fault

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>>49379847
Considering the time hololive exploded in popularity is also the around the time Coco numberfagged her SC earnings, there's no doubt that the majority of applicants were bottom of the barrel twitch ethots just in it for the money. Even the council girls had some sort of prior entertainment experience

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>>49349613
Cover is taken so long at this point I doubt there is even any good EN free talent that would fit hololive left

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>>49352811
Why is that Faggots Profile look like a chink character???

[Anonymous No.]

HolostarID in 2 months

source: it was revealed to me in a dream

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>>49379259
You mean if those were hired because of their connections? I've seen anons linking IRyS to Mel's roommate, and some retards say Ina and Kronii knew each other and their only proof is the fact they're Korean Canadians. As for Gura I've never heard anything about her knowing someone in Hololive before.

>>49379659
>By the way adition of Star gen 2 didn't boost Holostar greatly
It did the opposite, it actively thinned their already small audience and it's starting to make them bleed.

>>49379866
As much as Yagoo is a fucking retard for allowing 2 StarsEN gens back to back Pikamee would've never tried for Hololive. The whole idol thing is not something she wants to do.

[Anonymous No.]

Cover is fucked
if they hire some literal whos they'll become lazy as soon as the money comes in
the good ones have no reason to join them because they already swim in cash

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>>49349613
Cover expected people to accept tempus as EN3 but not even prime homobeggars call them that, we getting new girls eventually

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>>49380714
> become lazy as soon as the money comes in
If this is the case I would be less angry. I honestly think some girls just wanna do bare minimum and free ride the Holo brand.

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>>49381226
>I honestly think some girls just wanna do bare minimum and free ride the Holo brand.
This might be the reason we dont have EN3
Yahoo will never let this leeches leech off the hard working Established Hologirls

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>>49380572
Gura will leave this year anyway, so whats the point?

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>>49380714
So debuting a bunch of faggots who not even the most fervent anti-idol culture retards want to watch is better than debuting a new gen who may or may not start doing the bare minimum after a while?

>>49385578
Myth and Council stream more than at least half of the other gens in Hololive.

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>>49385872
at least the faggots stream

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>>49386762
A shame they're so boring that their biggest "supporters" would rather watch clips to promote them.

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>>49349613
What makes it even worse is the fact that they ignored all female applicants for straight up a year.
or stringed them along, i don't want to belive in it, but chances are high

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>>49386910
HoloEN would make clips too if they were entertaining but most of them have the personality of a dead fish

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>>49387023
It's the most logical explanation at this point. There's literally no reason for Cover to not debut an EN3 in a timely manner since they know how important new gens are for the growth of the overall audience, but unfortunately they got way to scared of Luxiem's success and completely lost sight of what should be their main focus. Whoever convinced the higher ups that a StarsEN would be as big as a new HoloEN gen really has a talent, but I doubt they'll be allowed to give their opinion on important decisions ever again if they're still in the company.

>>49387224
Good burn, but HoloEn still has more clips of them being made daily than all of Tempus. Nice try tho, I'll give you an E for effort.

[Anonymous No.]

corns be like

[Anonymous No.]

>>49363371
true

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349613
ID4 soon

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>>49393392
>soon
ID3 took 6 months to debut after auditions and I don't see it being any shorter for ID4, but the question is if Cover will really drop them during August/September considering all the events that happen in those months.

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>>49394074
by ID4 I think that anon meant HoloStarID, not surprising for Yagoo

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>>49394074
Voices in my head told me that ID4 will be announced during or right after Connect the World and will debut at the end of July or sometime in August. When it comes to the ID branch, Cover gives close to zero fucks about debuting new talents near anniversaries or big events. Just a reminder that they basically instantly dropped Uproar right after ID3 debuts. Besides that, as the company grows, it will be harder each year to find "free" months without anything going on, so you'll definitely see more gens that are having their anniversaries back to back.
Finally, at this point bigwigs must already know how disappointed many people were that Tempus came instead of EN3, so they may be inclined to release EN-lite (ID4) asap to calm everyone's tits down until they get the new EN gen ready.

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>>49363763
The only talent of size that has graduated in the past year was Pikamee and we all know how that turned out. Though I do think you are on to something about them possibly having a group last year and then possibly scrapping it for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate tempus but I hate EN management even more and the fact that they're a failure is the only satisfaction I have out of this whole mess.
I've already moved on from HoloEN, that ship has been abandoned. But I still hate seeing how badly it was neglected and sabotaged like this.
Cover might be at the top of the industry and HoloEN might win by default because no one else is really at that level but it's still a massive waste of its potential, a terribly managed branch and a disappointment.

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>>49349613
And they probably would've been shit and not your friends either.

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>>49395272
Uproar dropping close to ID3 was just the previous policy of debuting Holostars gens close to Hololive ones when they understood that they shouldn't chase for a new market in detriment of the main branch. Either way yeah, they could just drop ID4 close to other birthdays/anniversaries but with the new "no overlap" rule things will get weird, especially when the ID branch streams around the same time as the JP one. As for when they'll debut actually debut I doubt they'll come out before an EN3 because Connect the World is THE place to announce a new EN gen, and while they should debut earlier to build up to the concert the chances of that happening are currently very low due to Cover's stupidity but not having any kind of news for such a big event would be asylum-levels of mental retardation.

>>49396040
>you are on to something about them possibly having a group last year and then possibly scrapping it for whatever reason
Why? Why so many people think this is remotely possible? Why the fuck Cover would have a gen ready, scrap it and then instead of trying again they push for 8 dudes while allowing the wait time for EN3 beat all Hololive records and every soon HoloPro's as well? Is there an epidemic of dementia on /vt/ lately?

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>>49349613
they are still waiting on the "5th piece" of the "EN model"
>A music focused person (Mori type)
>A person who can sing and dance (Kiara/Bae type)
>The can draw, you know! (Ina/Sana type)
>A person with a lot of streaming experience (Watson/Kronii/Fauna type)
>A person who previously had big numbers (Gura/IRyS/Mumei type)

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>>49396787
As dumb and impractical as this sounds, I really believe this could be Cover's strategy

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>>49396787
Even if that was Cover's strategy it still doesn't make sense why it's taking almost 21 months and counting for them to debut another gen. It would be too much incompetence from their part to take so long to find people who fit those niches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349613
I don't get why people idolize this dude.
It's like when Applefags were super into Steve Jobs.
He doesn't do anything.
He's just a poster boy CEO.

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>>49350331
She literally told everyone that its a spread usually eaten with bread and gave them a choice you retard
Everyone just choose to eat it raw for content

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>>49395272
I don't think so. The first English concert is a big deal. Even cover isn't retarded enough to debut id4 as the big reveal there. It's almost certain to be the fabled en3. Remember cover views gen 3 as a major milestone for the branch. JP gen 3 was the golden gen and so was Id 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349613
When you ESL monkey understand what Cover is doing?
They don't have time to hire and groom to shape another group of western whores because they currently work on more important things. Soon they'll be opening largest VR studio of its kind in Japan, they have HoloALT and Holoworld in works, there's elusive mention of their own streaming platform in works. Who cares about new 5 whores with 4/10 models playing shitty games on Youtube when Cover is prepping themselves to up the entire system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49399279
So they don't have time to debut 5 "whores" but have time to debut 8 faggots in less than 6 months?

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>>49399475
More like got pressured by Nijisanji's quick success with m*les. And seeing with how much shitshow it ended I may also suspect that this also is reason why they are hesitant to touch EN now.
They have hands in dozens different project and EN side is shape where it kinda works but is held by hopes, dreams and good will of shitters like Kronii. They have all reasons to not touch it at least for now.
Also, before hiring anyone first thing they should do is purging EN management because clearly this is where problem lies. And that's another thing to take care of on top of everything.

EN is basically rn in the same situation as Holostars JP was years ago - exists for the sake of filling the quota and generally ignored. And it's not ID who actually has decent management AND freedom of not being main branch.

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>>49399991
HoloEN still performs better than almost all of ID minus Kobo who competed with their low-mid tier members nowadays, and maybe Kaela depending on what she's streaming. If Tempus horrible performance poisoned the well for EN as a whole then Cover is fucking retard, but that wouldn't be a surprise. As for management A-chan recently started being much more pro-active with her interactions with HoloEN, so maybe Cover got fed up with their incompetence and is finally taking action, but who knows. Either it's fucking insane to believe that HoloEN doing poorly enough to receive the StarsJP treatment.

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>>49399475
NTA but 8 faggots within 6 months is not necessarily a bad idea. EN was sinking for quite a while and Cover couldn't remedy it. Male EOP audiences were flocking to competitors. So Cover tried to explore a new market. But the prospect for male talents in Holopro really sucks. I mean, some male indies probably grew a lot faster than Aruran.
So adding more homo was proven to be a bad move in the end. Imo Cover needs to add some real solid talents in EN3 to revitalize the EN branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349613
Its not like they will hire anyone who was from a big corpo now. So good luck laughing dragon, whatever Miori's fans are called, prisim, and phase fags who think their oshi will make it in.

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>>49400739
>EN was sinking
>lets add dudes!
Great idea. Also anyone with half a brain cell could analyze Luxiem's success and reach the conclusion that not just it was a passing thing considering the major source of it, it was also unachievable for Cover considering because of the same source. It was night and day how much bigger they were in China compared to the west but somehow Cover convinced themselves or was convinced by some fujo in the EN staff that it was completely achievable for a StarsEN. Fast forward to nowadays and they're competing with Iluna for scraps when they're not redirecting all their viewers to a single members, which is Flayon most of the time.

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>>49400739
>EN was sinking
>lets add dudes!
Great idea. Also anyone with half a brain cell could analyze Luxiem's success and reach the conclusion that not only it was just a passing thing considering the major source of it, it was also unachievable for Cover because of the same source. It was night and day how much bigger they were in China compared to the west but somehow Cover convinced themselves or was convinced by some fujo in the EN staff that it was completely achievable for a StarsEN. Fast forward to nowadays and they're competing with Iluna for scraps when they're not redirecting all their viewers to a single members, which is Flayon most of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49399084
The EN girls have said that the performance of the EN concert determines how much Cover wants to invest into the branch.
It'd make sense to have EN3 debut before the concert so they can do the watchalong.

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>>49401042
I'm somewhat convinced that Cover had some sort of blind optimism that the western market would be different and would be more accepting of male vtubers.
If you checked twitter/reddit at the time, you had a loud minority screaming that they wanted StarsEN.

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>>49401193
Source on that? And considering how fast the tickets sold out I think it's safe to say it was a success before it even happened.

>>49401287
I get that and I remember how loud they were, but Cover should've know that these people are extremely fickle when the views for the Holostars web anime went to shit after a few episodes, or how hard the western audience dropped Aruran after he stopped doing the morning English streams. I do get that Cover wanted to have an answer to Luxiem fast, but debuting two StarsEN gens (or two halves of the same gen if you're being pedantic) before an EN3 was probably their most retarded decision to date.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/rakutenesports/status/1656227596026388480
I doubt he's worried.

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>>49401042
>EN was sinking
>lets add dudes!
They added 5 councils and gotten 1 Sana. You can't really blame them for trying something else kek. You will try anything when you’re desperate.
The highly anticipated and long awaited EN2 eventually proven to be somewhat mediocre to some people. Not to mention Sana resigned of her own will. This probably made the recruitment and selection of EN3 extremely difficult or tedious.
What can Cover do for EN side if they can’t debut EN3 soon? Take a gamble and debut Stars EN.

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>>49349613
Seriously tho, why did they even consider adding a new male gen when the average ccv is already that low?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49401806
And what a shitty gamble they took. It was like having a 10-high hand and going all-in thinking you have a chance of winning.

[Anonymous No.]

>EN1 is a huge success
>the west loves idols now
>let's make it clear that EN aren't idols
>let's hire mediocre egirls
>let's tell them to take it easy
>let's introduce some males
>let's spam collabs with them
>let's ignore EN in favor of them
>where did all the viewers go????

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>>49349897
Filian would never join a company like Hololive retard. She can only do the stuff she does because she’s indie. At point she did consider joining Phase Connect

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>>49398549
It shouldn't be a choice. No one eats it raw.

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>>49402398
LOL you got me good
damn funny kek
But Cover's logic really blown my mind sometimes.

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>>49399475
>>49401497
I think the first batch of StarsEN was doing better than expected (which was really low expectations)
But Kronii "idol culture is a thing" happened and she had a woman moment where she stabbed her fanbase in the back
So then stars are more hesitant to collab with girls
And then Vesper menhera arc happened, and there's some weird dynamic between blue boy and vesper now
So then stars are hesitant to collab with one another

This is my canon schizo reason on why stars EN 2 was released so quickly

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>>49402633
Jesus fuck...what happened to "only women are menhera"? How do you actually recruit a vtuber with professionalism?

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>>49349613
I think Sana ruined/changed their hiring practices.

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>>49380714
Just pull a fucking XSOLEIL and hire goddamn ESL japanese girls, even hiring burgers/canadians that live in japan is enough, clearly the work ethic there rub off even on the worse ones like Mori

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>>49402633
Flayon and Bettel were hired with the initial 4 faggots but were benched because Cover didn't want to debut a 6-man gen for some reason (even if both HoloJP1 and StarsJP1 had 6 members early on). Tempus 2 was already set in stone by the time Tempus 1 debuted and it's debatable if anything that happened in the 6 months between both halves had any influence in Cover's strategy outside of Tempus 2 being weirdly distant from HoloEN compared to how much Tempus 1 was pushed as part of "muh HoloProEN".

>>49403393
Sana announced her graduation 10 months ago but the whole thing was probably decided much earlier, likely 2 months before the announcement. If in 1 whole year Cover couldn't find 5 girls for EN3 the they're either incompetent or didn't even try during this period, and it's very likely that it's the latter when half of Tempus 2 was hired in 6-ish months.

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>>49403648
thats what they did with IRyS and now stuck with an EN that desperately wants to join the JP branch, to the point most of their collabs are with JP.

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>>49402873
Turns out the men are more drama prone than women. Which to be honest, what normal guy wants to be a fuckboy vtuber.

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>>49403721
Iirc in one of her last streams, Sana mentioned that she had been wanting to quit since her dog died but decided to stick around.
I think they just weren’t looking for girls, all that talk about resources not being the same between Holo/Stars is complete bullshit, especially when you’re talking about recruiters.

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>>49402525
Did you really laugh at your own post?
Jesas

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>>49403898
It's obvious that they weren't looking for girls. If they were EN3 would've debuted months ago because the branch desperately needs an actual new gen and even Cover fucking knows about that going by their most recent financial report. They made a very hard bet that Tempus would fill the space of an EN3 and would both compete against Luxiem and benefit from the Hololive audience, but they completely failed on both fronts and there was no plan B ready for the worst case scenario. Now that Tempus' numbers are bleeding at an alarming rate they're probably scrambling to get a new girl gen as fast as they can, or at least that's what they should be doing if they still have any interest in expanding the EN branch.

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>>49403721
Cover can find 50 girls for EN3. But among 50 girls Cover probably has a hard time to find 5 girls that are one tier above Council (which was deemed mediocre by many). Cover also has to make sure there is no Sana, and preferably no personality/mindset like Kronii's.
Cover spent so much time to recruit EN2 yet the result was not exactly ideal. JP branch can carry itself so it doesn’t matter if next JP gen turns out to be mediocre talents. But EN branch is desperate for saviors, high quality vtubers that can carry EN branch. There’s no point in adding more mediocre, lazy, or unprofessional girls to EN branch. It would be adding more mud into muddy water, worsening the situation.
I don’t disagree about Cover being incompetent though.

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>>49403745
NTA but I noticed IRyS' frequent JP collab too. I wonder if it's coincidence or IRyS wants to shift her focus towards JP side.

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>>49404426
They announced HoloEN auditions at the same time as ID4 and the audition reminder for Tempus 3. I hope they release EN3 by the concert date since it would mean the HoloEN auditions were for EN4 and not EN3

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>>49404426
>they failed on both fronts and there was no plan B
That's what I felt too
>Now that Tempus' numbers are bleeding at an alarming rate
Is this true? I thought numbers will never go down unless something special happens

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>>49404591
Cover spent 6 and a half months for EN2 if we count from the start of auditions until debut, or 5 if we only count after the auditions ended. It's been 16 months since the start of open auditions and you really believe that they're having trouble finding 5 girls for EN3? Also pushing for 8 faggots didn't do anything positive for the branch, especially after Vespers menhera episode made him the first member in all of HoloPro to ever get suspended without an obvious external controversy related to him.

>>49404836
Who knows. In a good timeline we would be waiting for an EN4 to be announced or even watching their debuts, but unfortunately this isn't a good timeline.

>>49404961
Only Vesper and Bettel are consistent 4views nowadays and even then they struggle to reach the 1.5k mark. Their numbers are pretty grim and nowadays they're barely doing better than StarsJP on average.

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>>49404836
>They announced HoloEN auditions at the same time as ID4
Actually, they announced auditions in February of 2022, so they've been open for a year. They sent out a reminder for HoloEN auditions the same time as ID4's audition announcement. Though I expect HoloStars EN Tempiss 3/ StarsEN 2 t come out before HoloEN 3 in virtue they sent their audition reminder out first.

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>>49405418
I think doing that would honestly kill the branch, there’s already animosity building up because VG debut so fast and before EN3. Another StarsEN gen before EN3 could very realistically cause people to actively anti them.
Not to mention that VG cannibalized HQ’s audience instead of increasing the viewer base.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49405193
>talent recruiting
I don't actually believe Cover only recruits talents during auditions. There must be active talent hunting I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49405193
>they struggle to reach the 1.5k mark
Anything wrong with this number? Are you suggesting some factors caused the number went lower than it should be?

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>>49405630
And that doesn't change the fact that it's been 16 month of supposed auditions and nothing came out of it.

>>49405778
When they used to get twice that amount on almost every stream a few months ago it certainly looks bad. As for why it's happening? Tempus 2 so soon definitely helped that, and the complete crumble of their initial unity that so many people hailed as the best in all of HoloPro. The fuckers managed to reach this stage faster than Myth.

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>>49406131
>audition
Holox took a year and 16 months is not crazy if Cover wants to make EN3 is a surefire victory. But I can't convince myself Cover is meticulous enough to scout EN3 for 16 months. Jeez I can't speculate whats going on behind the scenes. But your analysis gave me a bad feeling about EN3. I'm in despair again thx bro.

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>>49406539
Holox took 15 months to debut after JP5. Council's 2nd anniversary will happen in 3 months, and there's only a little over 2 months left for HoloEN to beat StarsJP record of longest wait for a new gen which is 23 months. These are not comparable, especially when HoloJP had 31 total members before Holox's debuts while EN still has only 10.

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>>49406131
>Tempus 2 so soon
Now that I think of it again, debuting a new gen before the honeymoon phase of previous gen ends is pretty crazy. This decision is baffling.
> The fuckers managed to reach this stage faster than Myth.
I'm not familiar with Tempus but they looked very united to me. No way they can devolved to Myth unity level in merely 4 months. Hmmm adding new gen too quickly is indeed bad the more I think about it. From various aspects too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49406846
If i remember correctly isn't jp stars gap so big is because stars asked for a delay?
isn't it insane that holoen close to beat that gap

[Anonymous No.]

>>49407107
Yes, it was during a period that the branch finally got their 3D debuts and the big concert so they didn't want the debut of a new gen to overshadow all of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49406846
>Council's 2nd anniversary will happen in 3 months
I didn't realize this. The late arrival of EN3 is a mystery. To me EN3 seems more crucial than HoloEarth or other Holoprojects. How and why the fuck did they delay EN3 for so long? I can never understand Cover.

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>>49407339
>How and why the fuck did they delay EN3
They thought Holostars would be accepted as the new EN generation. They thought the western audience would enjoy mixed collabs. They expected Tempus to make Luxiem money and to replace the elements of the fanbase that would be bothered by the new direction.

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>>49403721
>Flayon and Bettel were hired with the initial 4 faggots but were benched because Cover didn't want to debut a 6-man gen for some reason
According to who?? First time I've heard this rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49399279
>When you ESL monkey
>makes a post riddled with ESL-like mistakes
You're an embarrassment

[Anonymous No.]

>>49399991
>Also, before hiring anyone first thing they should do is purging EN management because clearly this is where problem lies. And that's another thing to take care of on top of everything.
This is the only excuse I will accept.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349897
>a girl who excels at content filian does ever joining an archaic japshit company
yeah it wont happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>49401193
That's not what they said. They said that interest in the concert in the US would determine if they do more overseas concerts like this. It was not about whether the EN branch would be invested into which is a weird schizo rrat I hear often from antis and niji posters. we already have cover saying in their latest financial report that they will be debuting more talents in ID and EN this fiscal year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349897
Third post best post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49357195
what a weird way of coping against facts and logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349689
>>49349743
>NOOOOOOO SHUT UP JUST SHUT UP ABOUT HOMOSTARS OK? SHUT UP ABOUT THEM DEBUTING A BUNCH OF SHITTERS INSTEAD OF WHAT HOLOLIVE IS KNOWN FOR WHICH IS GIRLS!!! JUST SHUT UP! JUST STOP NOTICING THINGS OR ELSE I WIL CALL YOU A FAGGOT HEHEH THATS RIGHT : FAGGOT! STOP THINKING ABOUT DICKS! HEHEH THAT WILL DEFLECT FROM THE TOPIC ALRIGHT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349897
Kys faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49351257
It’s not about being the “best”, because there is no such thing. You are not seriously going to say that if corpos didn’t exist and all vtubers are indies, that the HoloEN members would objectively be the ten best vtubers in the west. There’s no way to measure that.
There’s only “good enough”, and then whatever the audience decides after that. After that, there’s still stream frequency and more importantly, a larger talent pool for collabs and reducing scheduling gaps.
In that case, even if the next gen are “worse” than Myth and Council, it nowhere near justifies the much worse decision to not debut anyone at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349613
*one gen of girls.

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>>49349613
TFW the fag EN management hired another Mori
and did nepotism hires for tempiss

[Anonymous No.]

>>49402873
>>49403822
>men....
they are faggots, don't insult real men thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>49351257
>The existing 2 gens were a disappointment, what makes you think the next two would be any different?
Kobo has proven you dead wrong. Also, Myth was a smash hit. Council was not amazing from the very beginning then continued to deteriorate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49412859
You watch vtubers you are already an insult to men

[Anonymous No.]

>>49413196
ah a faggot. you know your kind well.
now piss off

[Anonymous No.]

>>49413044
Myth was a hit because everyone wanted "Hololive in english". Myth was hype, but didn't live up to it.
And while Kobo is great and entertaining, she also isn't "Hololive in english". Because, it seems, english streaming culture is simply incompatible with it.
>>49412183
I agree that abandoning HoloEN was the wrong move, I'm just saying that even if they hadn't been they would never be the thing people crave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49414010
By Kobo I meant there's always a chance to find a star talent. It's a small chance though.
Anyway the future for EN branch looks very grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349689
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>49408151
Both of them, Flayon even revealed he was the gorilla manager during that Raft stream. It's why they share the same western fantasy motif the initial 4 had while Shinri and Hakka are Japanese inspired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49413252
>you know your kind well.
You just admitted being a faggot. Talk about a self own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49404426
Fanfic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49411418
Mindbroken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49404591
If there is one more Mori, Ame or Kronni it is finished.

[Anonymous No.]

I dont care how long it takes I just won't watch hololive until they have some interesting talent
the current 10 are dialed the fuck back, clearly don't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>49425260
Great argument, beggar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49407872
>They expected Tempus to make Luxiem money and to replace the elements of the fanbase that would be bothered by the new direction
That's probably not something the higher ups in Japan thought about but a goal of the EN staff if they're the California kind. Thank god the absolute majority of the audience didn't give a fuck about them because it would be depressing to see HoloEN becoming Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49425336
Neither of them collabed or even interacted with Tempus 2 so I doubt the HoloProEN dream is still a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1V6xqIHgjA

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349613
Unicorns are always right.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_04pMA4rjM

[Anonymous No.]

>>49434594
Yeah EN3 isn’t happening anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49349613
I highly doubt Yagoo himself feels that way

[Anonymous No.]

>>49438907
He will when he looks at his tanking IPO and Chinese investors start breathing down his neck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49437905
I seriously hope not and either Kiara is being cheeky about it or Cover has the group mostly ready but haven't introduced them yet to their senpai.

[Anonymous No.]

>Current holoEN already set the precedent of not needing to stream at all
>Constantly have excuses to not stream
>Sana the nepo hire
I want EN3 soon just to see them do exactly the same thing and to see if cover learned anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49368121
>Mori
sure
>Kronii
doesn't work that way
prior emotional investment necessitates a retaliatory response if the investment is betrayed, that is basic human nature

[Anonymous No.]

>>49449237
And what lessons should Cover learn? Also if you're complaining about nepohiring then you also hate Gamers, right?

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>>49450354
> comparing Korone, Okayu and the Hag Goddess that is Mio to Sana
I liked Sana but cmon

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>>49450437
Then don't complain about nepohiring. Sana being a nepohire wasn't her problem and it was one case of it going wrong when the Gamers members are the complete opposite of it.

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>>49450577
Let's compare the nepo hires then. One side got neopo hired when company wasn't as big and they streamed and actually put in effort to create content while the other one got in when the company was already big and fucked off as soon as she could because she didn't even have to try to get in.
If Sana got in on her own then Cover sure is shit if their scouts and interviewers allowed someone who didn't want the gig to get in. There's a pretty obvious lesson to be learned here.

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>>49450995
Nepohiring isn't a backdoor access to Hololive, at least not nowadays. She at most had priority over other candidates because of her connection with Ina because having someone who's already friendly with their senpai from the get go is something desirable. She most likely went through all the same steps just with a stronger bias and the people in charge of the whole process still gave her the ok, and honestly she didn't feel like a complete waste of time back when she debuted and was willing to do stuff to differentiate herself from the others, but then she completely threw it in the garbage when she became the artist vtuber who doesn't do art streams and went from kusoge/indie game focused to pretty much only playing Pokémon/Nintendo, plus the whole hiatus series, with part 1 being the dog and part 2 being her back. In any way I also hope Cover learns their lesson and it seems like they did somewhat with the new auditions page asking the candidates to have a goal for what they want to accomplish in Hololive.

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>>49434594
oof

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>>49451318
With what happened with sana your claims are very hard to believe. Sana going through the same things everyone else did and no one during the entire process weeded her out? Holo has a pretty good track record in hiring people who actually want the job. If Cover had a history of hiring people who quit a few months in on their own accord then what you claimed would be more believable, but there is no way Cover could have fuck up like how they did with sana without nepo being the main and primary/only reason she got in. Cover has experience and a record that shows they know what they're doing. Sana being the outlier shows they did something different and it backfired immediately on them

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>>49434594
It's possible that EN3 are still in their "immersion" period discord group right now and are not yet allowed to join the EN, ID, and JP talents main discord. That is if the "EN3 at HoloENConnect" rrat is to be believed.

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>>49451914
Who knows what happens, she could've just lied very well during the process or thought things would be much different before debut. If you're willing to believe her regarding the hiatus arc then maybe things would be different if they didn't happen. Her reasons aside I do agree that Cover will be much more careful regarding nepohires, but the practice by itself is not negative and it can give amazing results like with Gamers.

>>49452096
I seriously hope that's whats happening with them, but if by July 2nd there's no sign of EN3 then be prepared for /vt/ to go full doomer mode.