/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

I think they should release Tempus 3 right now, strike while the iron is hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>49323517
Holy popular demand

[Anonymous No.]

what went so wrong? they used to be competing with nijien females, now they are at starsjp levels

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>>49323517
Tempisssisters, our response? I myself am running out of space on my arm to slit, maybe I should do it on my penis next to get closer to becoming a woman!

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>>49323517
wow that's horrendous

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>>49323588
Unironically Tempus 2. Shortening the collab ban period and spamming cross gender collabs did their fair share to erode people's goodwill but when Tempus 2 was announced even the biggest anti-unicorn holo hugboxes were up in arms about it.

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>>49323517
Please stop joking they might think you're serious

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>>49323707
i think tempus 2 was a huge mistake too, not only because of what you mentioned but also due to 4 new members spreading the dedicated tempus viewerbase too thin. it also became a lot harder to keep up with everyone so i'm guessing many people are now dedicated to just 1-2 instead of all because they've realized it's impossible to catch up with everyone.

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>>49323707
That plus honnestly nobody know what their target audience is/was. If you were going for the brotuber route, honnestly it's lacking in a visual that would attract guys (unhironicaly vesper PL is about what you need) but saying that would chase away most of the fujo (and models once again don't attract them THAT much either), so about no adventage on the pure Vtuber side. Now gaming? mediocre at best. Artisticaly it's also not that impressive either. You can easely found far better easy peasy, and since i mentioned before they have barely any pull as pure Vtubing (outside the blue dorito). The only struggly you could see them is being hated by most hololive fans, and that about it because management treat them so favorably it's almost absurd (vesper excluded) so no underdog treatment either. So basicaly in the end the audience is what? faggot who hide in the closet with poor taste and that is about it.

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>>49323517
P O P U L A R
D E M A N D

[Anonymous No.]

Why are numberthreads allowed outside of /#/?

[Anonymous No.]

This stream isn't really a example to try to say something negative, as it was just a guerilla out of the blue without announcement.
Also it was basically a black screen with sounds here and there

[Anonymous No.]

HololiveEN3 and HolostarsEN3 will debut at the same time as a 6 person mixed gen. It will blow up for the wrong reasons and only one will come out on top. Look out for the drills!

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>>49323517
would be funny if they did release it, you seem to want it so badly homoshill

[Anonymous No.]

>I can't stop thinking about cock thread

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>>49323517
By POPULAR DEMAND we have no decided to debut Tempus3, 4 AND 5 in the following months!

And you WILL watch them RIGHT?

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>>49323517
You're trying too hard Ernoul.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49324143
Also that most are incredibly uninteresting and for the most part bad game choices

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>>49326372
>>49326410
>>49326462

Hi Axel

[Anonymous No.]

I used to be a tempus fan but I've given up on them at this point, they're just not good enough

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>>49323517
yeah, sure

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>>49326499
Man cover really fucked up doing this.
I'm still mad, i used to be a Tempus full-time watcher but now i lost track and can basically just dedicate to 1 or 2 like you said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49325932
>mixed gen
No

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>>49323517
Yagoo please accelerate, we need more Tempus

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>>49326372
Absolutely, the fall out would be glorious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49323517
It even has Raid......
Even Anya can get more CCV than this FAG!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49323517
Is he the type of male trying asmr "ironically" because he doesn't want to pander to women?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49323588
>what went so wrong
Let's see...
>Half of them have shitty designs that appeal to no one and scream "outdated" or "low quality"
>Debuted in already heavily saturated EN market
>Magni had a collab with some asian girl who hates white people and that triggered some of tempus fans
>Vesper rapes Gura and is temporarily suspended fucking up his momentum
>Vesper has a menhera breakdown in Japan
>Vesper and blue omega are avoiding each other for some reason which breaks unity keyfabe
>Tempus2 members debut further spreads their already small fan base
>Tempus2 attracts more hate from holo fans because they supposedly took EN3 spot
>IMO, 70% of their streams are some kusoge that filters a good chunk of their viewers
>Some of them seem to flip-flop between content targeted toward men/general viewers and stuff that only women would enjoy which further filters some viewers
>They suffer from the same problem as HoloEN: not enough members to create huge projects/events or content that would constantly get clipped (outside Apex/Rust arcs, but that was primarily just Axel). Collabing with JPs will change nothing, and they don't have the means to create a huge walled garden with 24/7 clipable MC content like HoloJP
>They're not women. That means they can't JUST do what female vtubers do and make retarded noises all day long. They need to be really good at something to set them apart, and the only one who stands out in terms of comedy is the clown, and maybe altare in FPS.
The only thing they have going for them is their supportive management team. It gives me hope that when Cover hires new managers for EN3, they won't fuck it up again like with Myth.

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>>49323517
They can release tempiss 3 after you hang yourself in your closet for suggesting such idiotic idea.

[Anonymous No.]

A Tempus thread? thanks for the support

[Anonymous No.]

>>49327369
>>49329044
this reeks of falseflag

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>>49329981
Go back to your hugbox, sister. I used to be a fan too, but Cover really fucked up with VG by releasing them so soon. They also brought in a bad crowd (aka nijisisters). Now I watch only Magni and Vesper (sometimes Axel because I have a soft spot for him). I am still patiently waiting for a continuation of project zomboid. Vesper, old man, if the others won't play it with you, please play it solo.

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>>49323517
Aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Zeta tasuketeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.]

Do the anons that makes these threads genuinely believe they have any power whatsoever?

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>>49331395
Just like Tempus then you mean?

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>>49329747
I think this is a very fair shake
I tried multiple times to watch Flayon play Idol Showdown, he has a better understanding of fighting games than the rest of holo production, but his voice is even worse than Kiara's and I couldn't last 5 minutes
All my interest died after the Vesper menhera arc, the constant YABBA DABBA DOO collabs, and the rushed VG arc
VSaikyo left a bad taste with Selen choking
Rust made me prefer VSPO/Gamma/Astel
The only thing left are occasional clips of their WoW streams

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>>49329044

Marketing 101: never neglect your core audience. To use a video game example; don't devote E3 to Wii Music - the majority only cares for Zelda.

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>>49331395
>the anons that makes these threads
>anons
It's ONE (1) singular nigger from Tennessee who is buck broken by Tempus' existence

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>>49323707
Seeing even the biggest Tempus defenders on twitter and reddit go "wait... why?" when Tempus 2 dropped sure was something.
I felt a little bad for Tempus 1 because it looked like they were hired to prove a point (and proved the opposite) but I felt really bad for Tempus 2 since literally no one wanted them.
We can only hope the person responsible for this disaster got fired, both HoloEN and StarsEN (now that it regretfully exists) deserve better than being political playing balls.

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>>49332803
is that actually true or is that a schizo theory

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>>49333383
NTA but many people do not like Tempus for obvious reasons but I can see only very few people being passionate enough to make dedicated anti threads for them especially when some others are already up
if it's one or three people doesn't really make a difference

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>>49333353
Tempus 2 was always planned because Tempus 1 was originally suppose to be 6 but they added 2 and split between both

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>>49333383
It's literally the same typing style, the same word, the same pictures. Most posters who don't like Tempus are busy posting about their oshis instead of wasting their time on the catalog.

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>>49333353
There's a real chance that Tempus 3 comes out before EN3 but I think Cover isn't retarded enough to actually do that (Tempus 3 auditions were basically announced two weeks before Tempus 2 debut).

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>>49333791
>There's a real chance that Tempus 3
There will NEVER be a "Tempus 3", see >>49333562
That's like saying "myth 2" or "council 2".

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>>49323517
There's no point in debuting more girls while the homos are around so they might as well shit out Tempiss 3 and 4

[Anonymous No.]

>>49334051
This. Instead of EN3 they should focus on forcing the girls stream more.

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>>49329981
Nah I really liked Vesper, Magni and Axel for the first couple of months and they had a ton of cool streams and great unity vibes. The Vesper suspension + menhera arc really soured my moon on Tempus as a whole but they've also gone way down in quality in general, they've lost that post debut enthusiasm and their unity's completely gone at this point. The new half gen is also awful other than the clown who just kinda fills the same role as Magni so even he feels unnecessary. Tempus just feels like wasted potential, those first few months with frequent kino streams made me unironically believe they could do well in the long term but they just kinda fizzled out starting from Vesper's suspension IMO.

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>>49334812
to this day i still wonder what he did to get suspended like that. like what the fuck did he do lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>49334812
i just wanted a monthly ttrpg stream with the boys is that too much to ask...

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>>49335281
I don't know but his behavior after he came back when he went full menhera in Japan and started ignoring his genmates and skipping big anniversary collabs convinced me that management was probably in the right and the dude's some sort of schizo

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>>49335435
He really is like me, fr fr.

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>>49335435
he was so retarded not bringing his meds. its literally a two second google search to check if your drugs are legal to bring to japan. genuinely fucking empty headed shit. mans is pushing 40s and he acts like a menhera college girl.

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>>49335397
Yea that's the thing, when they started out and they were full unity and doing all these frequent big collabs among themselves I thought they'd be able to do stuff like that and the DnD sessions would become a frequent recurring thing, instead after like half a year they're about as interesting and exciting as HoloEN except they don't even have tits

[Anonymous No.]

The absolute fucking state of these shitters.

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>>49335539
Idk the meds thing sounded like an excuse, did he also forget his meds when he did whatever got him suspended?

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>>49333562
did they adressed WHY they hired 6 members instead of 4 in the first place? cause it feels that they fucked up and hired 2 more people by accident so they had to het other 2 and release them asap.

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>>49335668
>EN girls used to be beloved 5views
>dropped down to declining 4views because of the homos
>some had their first controversies because of the homos
>goodwill from the fans eroded because of the homos
>channel growth halted because of the homos
And what does Holopro get in return? 8 faggots that struggle to break 500 CCV
Management fucked up so hard it's slowly killing their whole brand in the west

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>>49335976
They said they were only looking for 4 but they got 6 candidates who were so good they couldn't turn any of them down (the original 4 guys + Bettel and Flayon) so they went looking for 2 more guys to make a second gen. Really they should have just dropped Altare and Flayon and debuted a single Tempus gen with Vesper, Magni, Axel and Bettel and left it at that for a much longer while.

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>>49336170
Hey, hey slow down. Don't lump my oshi vesper with the other faggots.

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>>49336198
I fucking hate blue guy so much.

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>>49336170
>dropped down to declining 4views because of the homos
They reclined because they suck, the homos have nothing to do with it outside of Kronii's retardation (but that's her fault, not the homos') and potentially indirectly delaying EN3 (but that's management's fault, also not the homos'). What amazing HoloEN content do you think is being made and not getting the numbers it deserves? As much as I personally dislike her content the only EN member who's been consistently making content correctly is Fauna and she hasn't reclined.

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>>49336198
I knew that flayon was one of them but holy they even went with that stupid desicion and made it part of the tempus lore.
I agree they should have dropped altare and flayon but man what a cluster fuck of management

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>>49336289
Did you memoryhole the couple months after Tempiss debuted when they were spamming one or two homo collabs per week and those faggots were mentioned and shoved in every other stream? On top of that sister beggars were astroturfing /here/ hard and calling anyone who didn't want to see HoloEN turn into budget NijiEN a pathetic parasocial incel. You can understand why that constant state of drama turned away some fans.
On top of that the lack of EN3, people were already asking for it a year ago and things only got worse ever since.

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>>49336289
NTA but they should’ve tardwrangled their fanbase cause they were pretty insufferable. I think Altare was the only one who explicitly called out collab begging multiple times.
Tempus 2 only magnified that because they were dunking on people who wanted EN3 and later on when they weren’t doing so hot, insulting Holos in order to prop them up (e.g. The boys are way funnier than the girls, give them a try!).

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>>49337033
Homobeggars are the most insane fans I've ever seen. You can find videos of them foaming at the mouth screaming that Holos should fuck the Stars to own the incels. Their minds are just gone. And they barely even watch the Stars.

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>>49337436
>You can find videos of them foaming at the mouth screaming that Holos should fuck the Stars to own the incels
Please link some

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>>49336289
>They reclined because they suck, the homos have nothing to do with it outside of Kronii's retardation
>Kronii fought her audience over the homos
>Ame fought her audience over the homos
>Mori still forces the homos because of her wigger savior complex
>Ina disappointed her audience over the homos
>Gura stopped streaming after the homos appeared
>the entire decline of EN views perfectly correlated to Tempiss debut and the collabs that followed
Yeah it's just Kronii being a retard tho I mean she really is a retard but that's not the point

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>>49337648
gura was not streaming WAAAAAY before tempus the fuck you talkin about nigga

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>>49337648
Yes, what made Mori recline was her bimonthly collabs with the homos, not her 10 million yabs since debut. And Ina reclined because she sang in a song that was released in a homo channel, not because she just fucked off for months to go on trips and work for chink gacha games. Might as well blame the homos for Sana's graduation as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you retards stop letting penis live rent free in your brain-lacking heads, FOR FIVE MINUTES?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49337860
>Might as well blame the homos for Sana's graduation as well.
I would if anyone gave a fuck about Sana

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>>49337436
I wouldn't be surprised if the homobeggars and the seething anti-male collab posters were the same people shitposting to make the situation worse. Felt pretty forced to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49337897
No they ruined my oshi, I will never forgive them

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>>49337966
More like they happened to reveal what your oshi was like all along

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>>49324534
>#’s bad!
They thank us for milestones all the time tho? That’s numbers and they want them

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>>49338065
I was happy living with the lie

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>>49337515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPxr6kNWZos
I remember some dramatubers like Khyo did as well but their channels are just pure bait.

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>>49323517
The popular demand of a single discord server

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>>49338879
fat pathetic cuck

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>>49338204
NTA but you know what? at least from now on people will be able to see the sneaky homo collabers from the start since EN 3 will come out in a world when tempus exists. Or maybe they will be smart enough and ignore them or not talking to them publically

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>>49323517
Gentlemen your Tempus 3

[Anonymous No.]

Another thread complaining about something everyone already knows instead of doing something productive like antiing them on their channels, shitting on their chats, etc.
Thanks for the free advertising.

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>>49323707
nah, i actually watched them but they're boring after a while. their best content was the collabs, bros being bros, but they stopped doing those.
final nail for me was when magni killed their valheim collabs. too many fucking excuses from the faggot.
came back for the vsai arc but fucked off right after. was a fun month and only strengthened my belief that group collabs were their best content and only content for me.
i know they have a weekly wow content but i have no love for that game.
bettel might be still watchable as a solo streamer but his timeslot is awful for me, and i rather watch a LIVEstream. and i'd rather tune to ina if im around.

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>>49339291
>since EN 3 will come out in a world when tempus exists
That's why EN 3 is cursed to fail before they even debut
You might see a cute girl with a nice voice and fun personality but in the back of your head you will always know that she is not safe to oshi
People will never be able to build bonds with new girls again the way they did with early EN 1 and 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>49339311
Max and Kenny have families so they're safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49339291
Y: If you get hired would you be interested in collabing with Holostars
>Um... I'm not sure if I would
Y: I see, well thank you for your time. Don't call us, we'll call you.

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>>49329747
>Vesper rapes Gura and is temporarily suspended fucking up his momentum
That never happened; the issue was between Vesper and the management. Last I checked, Gura isn't a manager.
Everything else is pretty accurate.

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>>49339632
Low quality shitpost. Improve yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

that iron is hot right now baby

[Anonymous No.]

>>49335281
If you read between the lines and listen to the hints then it was almost certainly a blow up at management for not getting him XCOM permissions so he could do a promised 24 hour stream over thanksgiving. It was the 2nd time management had failed to get perms for XCOM for him and it would seem Vesper went off over it.

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>>49333383
its a coping mechanism

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>>49326372
I wouldn't even mind it at this point.
If that happened I could at least release all sense of attachment I have towards HoloEN and laugh at them like I laugh at every other VTuber

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>>49325932
>>49329056
I think he's right. It would explain why EN3 hasn't been released yet, and according to rrats, Holostars has been sending call-back emails to applicants recently. Aka more guys are potentially being hired as we speak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49339682
>That never happened; the issue was between Vesper and the management. Last I checked, Gura isn't a manager.
plus i am pretty sure he would of gotten terminated extremely fast if he actually raped someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49342305
> according to rrats
In your head? Meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49339407
I do both, faggot.

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>>49337033
This. My interest in EN was already hanging by a thread due to the fact the ones I watched had already started seeming less interested in streaming (Gura, Ina, Ame, Kronii), so during the months of homo debacles I just cut off my last ties (memberships) and went back to be a HoloJP only. A positive, too, since it let me fix my sleep schedule (t. Yuro)

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>>49342898
>plus i am pretty sure he would of gotten terminated extremely fast if he actually raped someone.
kek tell that to Mel

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>>49329981
how? consider the massive number dropoff

[Anonymous No.]

>>49340815
Vtubers in the west lost a lot of strength in general, they are still going strong in Japan, so COVER will be fine

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>>49343486
Proof of you shitting on their streams and channels live?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49350894
>Vtubers in the west lost a lot of strength in general,
That's self-inflicted tho. HoloEN could have grown stronger over time but they chose to spite their audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>49352038
Man, EN as so lucky all their faults can be blamed on homos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49352994
>the cancer patient is lucky all his problems can be blamed on tumors
Not really?

[Anonymous No.]

Western do not fully understand the "purpose" of being a vtuber.

Is not a pretty mask for yourself, is for a attemp to "roleplay of a fictional larger than life character".
Holojp conquered the market by being "living anime girls", streaming games/chatting goes very well with the "anime cute girls do cute things" as anime/manga slice of life comedy is mostly a fermale thing.

But males can't really do that, manga/anime guys are mostly action oriented, you just can't do a goku streaming games.
Male vtubers as characters can't go beyond being gay for the fujo.
Males need something like advanced virtual reality and go combat shonen, a living goku can get ten million ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49355505
You're either ESL or a nip. Either way shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49333383
Nigger got so fucked in the ass about homos in idol showdown that he doxxed himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49329747
>Magni had a collab with some asian girl who hates white people
based

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>>49324143
Agreed. Holo makes a lot of good choices but Tempus 2 (let alone StarsEN in general) shows they didn’t learn as to why a lot of Nijis hang in 2-3view hell: there’s so much competition from within their own company (branch in ENs case in particular). What made Council (sort of) stick the landing is that we had a year to get attsched to Myth, just enough time to decide to shake things up. Tempus 2 was a 6 month difference, for the people that actually watched Tempus 1, it wasn’t enough time to make a connection before moving onto something new.