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Rough guesstimates on Talent/Company profit sharing based on Cover's FY2023 financial report and some known data such as channel profit sharing.
Source: https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/4f1872d7/00b1/4608/ae53/91e8fe62579e/20230512160316925s.pdf

if we assume holomems gets an even split between them and Cover on all earning generated from their yt channel and twitch, 10% out of concert sales, and 5% out of sponsor deals, then we can estimate that merch profit sharing is around 30:70 (that is, holomems gets 30% of merch revenue after production costs/raw materials etc, 70% goes to Cover for operational expenses (merch staffs, etc))
This includes averages from all commerce sales such as voice packs, general merchs, custom merchs, event merchs, etc.

>> No.49274101
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>>49274026
Nijisanji intern this is pathetic, not even gonna bother reading whatever bullshit you wrote.

>> No.49274134

Who cares?
Btw my oshi is Lui, who's your favourite Holobros?

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>>49274026

>> No.49274150

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBKr8YLuVgs

>> No.49274151

This is embarassing, NijiIntern.

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Also hololive gonna die soon btw

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>> No.49274172

So after being completely humiliated here in the other thread >>49262917 you decided to start a fresh thread instead?

>> No.49274206

>>49274134
Haachama.....

>> No.49274218
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>>49274026
>had to retreat to catalog after getting mocked on /#/ for your >guesstimates, even with your little discord raid

>> No.49274224
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>>49274026
tl:dr pic rel

>> No.49274251

>guesstimate
Lmao

>> No.49274260

Nijinigger seething. 30% (false number) is still 30 times more than 1%

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>>49274134
The one and only.
Watame approved my shitposting tendency.
So, i will make her proud.

>> No.49274300

>>49274101
>>49274134
>>49274150
>>49274151
>>49274162
>>49274172
>>49274218
>>49274224
Fauna confirms it, Holofags
https://streamable.com/0nwjfv

>> No.49274371

>>49274026
>make up numbers
>wtf cover is a black company by my made up numbers

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>>49274300
didn't watch the clips, so pic rel.
I like it more than the black one because it's subtle.

>> No.49274435

>>49274300
>sometimes
Like when the Merch flops and there is only a small/no profit.

>> No.49274442

>>49274026
Come the fuck on anon, if you are a nijifan how does cover doing good or bad affect you in any shape or form? Same to holofags too

>> No.49274471

>>49274026
Advanced coping there nijinig

>> No.49274518

>>49274300
She didnt confirm shit about the percentage. All she gave was a vague "sometimes".
The irony is that even 30% would be much, much larger than the 1-2% that Nijisanji gives out. Cover isn't in the realm of black company tier.

>> No.49274522

Lmao, I knew it was smart not to say anything about the 1% meme. You never know how much that is unless you're given context. Looks like Nijisanji gives the better deal, but drones will just dismiss the data because it doesn't confirm to their worldview.

>> No.49274546

https://twitter.com/dvckyVT/status/1655824455858520064
Educate yourself.

>> No.49274549

>>49274435
Kronii...

>> No.49274606
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>>49274026
How can Cover be a black company if it pays its employees 82 mil a year, with top talents earning 2-1 million dollars per fiscal year?

>> No.49274621

God my side, to orbit, this amount of coping is unreal

>> No.49274628

>>49274026
Why are nijinigars like this.

>>49274135
Hehe 1% vs 50% this really destroys any argument nigars has

>> No.49274634
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>>49274026
>get called out for being a retard on /#/
>run to the catalog
>>49272400
>>49273606

>> No.49274685

God I always knew holoshit was way worse

>> No.49274688

>>49274634
Fucking snitch

>> No.49274744

>>49274300
>Fauna: I would say, birthday merch is always good, safe bet

She's talking about how much money is made through merch in general, not the percentage as far as I can tell.

>> No.49274751

>>49274634
Huh, I guess FalseEye'd was right about one more thing. Anycolor really do have spies everywhere, only in this case they're shills.

>> No.49274783

Nijiassume

>> No.49274801

>>49274300
Are you 1% sure?

>> No.49274812

>>49274688
>weeeeee let me spread bullshit in peace
how about you neck yourself

>> No.49274814

>>49274628
50% is VShojo, drone

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>>49274522
>>49274685
Go on, nijiniggers.
Keep making these stupid posts.
I'm sure anon here will believe your lie.

>> No.49274839

>>49274026
Anykara could at least bother using the money they steal from their talents to good use instead of paying incompetent interns.

>> No.49274908

>>49274814
Aww Vei, Vale and Nyanners missed out a lot then

>> No.49274991

>>49274839
Come on anon, doing things cheaply is the Anycolor way. From their concerts, their merchandise, their debuts, their fucking panels where they didnt even have chairs in one case, to their interns.
How else do you think they make so much money?

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>>49274839
Please anon, if they only give 1% to their talents, what make you think they will give more their interns?
Gift card is the best they can offer now.

>> No.49275038

>>49274442
>if you are a nijifan how does cover doing good or bad affect you in any shape or form? Same to holofags too
Every time I make a shitpost about our competitor 1₱ is deposited on my account.

>> No.49275041

trying your damnest sissy intern

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>> No.49275089

How is 30% worse than 1%? Do you people even read the shit you steal? The NDF really aren't sending their brightest.

>> No.49275093

>>49274026
Your "gotcha" is that Cover only pays 30% when everyone has been shitting on Nijisanji for 2%? How retarded are you?

>> No.49275097

>>49274522
Nijiniggers working overtime again I see >>49274739

>> No.49275099
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>>49274814
Kson was bitching 50%?
Jesus, hololive share cut must have been bigger for her to be bitching on 50%.

>> No.49275104

>>49274814
lolmao

>> No.49275142

>>49274135
Based reddit dragon spilling the beans

>> No.49275153

Cover isn't a black company, trust Foobs.

>> No.49275161

>>49274814
HAHAHAHAHAHA look at this faggot got got, didn't even think twice before spouting bullshit.

>> No.49275180

>>49275089
Because the vague merch split numbers people are aware of is a 50:50 split. But you wrote a 30:70 split, which makes it seem like the Holos are getting a smaller cut of the profit despite having to put in more effort for the custom merch

>> No.49275184

>>49275089
Cause it fits my narrative

>> No.49275200

This HAS to be a Cover psyops to make Nijifags look bad, right?
...right?

>> No.49275230

>>49275099
>Jesus, hololive share cut must have been bigger for her to be bitching on 50%.
>the company where talents don't even own their characters
Now you're trying too hard. Coco left because of le talent freedom.

>> No.49275238

>>49275161
>>49275104
>>49275099
Not my fault I'm not illiterate, drones. 50% was clearly VShojo based on corpo vs. custom merch average.

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>>49274546
>niji talents make more on merch sales at !% rev share compared to hololive at 30%
This faggot is retarded
>napkin math
I see Im right

>> No.49275280

>>49275200
I wish
look at them assuming that I'm a sapling for simply shitting on their fat 1% prime cut
you wish nigger
I will never subscribe and I will never donate/supa
And I will watch from a stolen wifi

>> No.49275293

>>49275238
Kson would have never complained if 50% was actually that much better than her Holo contract.
Vshojo and Holo are worlds better which is why Kson said that 1% is fucked up (if true).

>> No.49275305

>>49275200
I wouldn't be so sure - nijiniggers have 0 reading comprehension
Even if half of the numbers here are completely made up, it still makes holo look good
30% (again, made up) > 1% merch cut
Like half a mil usd per talent for a single quarter

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>>49275230
>>49275238
Ah yes, please show me clips where kson complain about vshojo's merch.
I'll wait.

>> No.49275321

>>49275200
They don't need to try. The irony is that Nijisanji makes itself look bad on a weekly basis. If its not the talents becoming menhera about the fact that they're overworked or getting scammed by Nijisanji with their 1% merch cut, they start shit amongst each other and try to drag down other people to their level the moment they see one growing.

>> No.49275334

Fucking retarded holodrones. Anycolors makes 15x more revenue than Cover, therefore distributes more profits to livers.

>> No.49275337

>>49275238
Still too hard for your micro brain huh? I won't point out your retarded part, that would be your homework to discuss with your discord friend.

>> No.49275352

>>49274991
>>49275002
Fair enough, guess it's true that you get what you pay for.

>> No.49275360

>>49275238
make sure you DM Nyanners to tell her she made a mistake leaving since she was getting 50% and couldn't read

>> No.49275370

>>49275242
Are you fucked in the head? People are aware it's a 50-50 split, it's 30-70 that makes it seems like Holos are getting a much smaller cut of the profit despite more effort being made into custom merch. How does that not register into your thick monkey skull?

>> No.49275380

>>49274026
There's nothing here Op, I know you niggers are dumb but I didn't know that you were this retarded holy.

I feel so bad on niji more now, not only are they profiting so less and getting gutpunched by their management, but also having fans this stupid.
They really can't stop losing...

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>>49275334
>therefore distributes more profits to livers.
kek

>> No.49275419

>>49275370
Explain to me how 1% of 500k is MORE than 30% of 300k. I'll wait Ducky you stupid fat fuck.

>> No.49275424

>>49274026
>assuming
>estimate
>probably
What's next?

>> No.49275427

>>49275360
Vshojo JP contract is not the same as Vshojo EN contract. Already confirmed by Kson. Also Nyanners leaving might be for different reasons, for example sponsorships.

>> No.49275446

>>49274300
The way I interpret it, some merch is sponsored, and thus has a different profit sharing scheme. Birthday merch is probably the 50% Kson mentioned.

>>49274744
She's comparing it to SCs, chat was parroting the usual statements about how a bigger part of merch sales goes to the talents compared to SCs.

>> No.49275450

>>49275334
15 * 1% = 15%
1 * 30% = 30%
Holos earn more still

>> No.49275474

>>49275334
If we use your "assumption" that cover give 30% to talent. Holo talent get two times what nijilivers get

>> No.49275484

>>49274172
Holodrones are the softest pussies. You actually care that you're being called out on catalog LOL

>> No.49275493

Why do holofags lash out at nijis for their NOT MY FRIEND yabs?

>> No.49275499

where is this 1% come from? is the info reliable? I don't watch nijisanji but why are you guys shitting on the chuubas.

>> No.49275495

>>49275446
She makes a lot in SC while her merch sales are not really great, like other ENs bar Gura

>> No.49275540

>>49275424
>almost
>maybe
>assume
>perhaps
>feel
>gut

>> No.49275559

>>49275446
And Fauna disproved that.

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>>49275334
Trickle-down economics do not work the way you think they do anon.

>> No.49275575

>>49275200
You wish. One glance at Twitter and you know most of nijisisters are turbo retard. Even gloating how 2% is more than enough because the company does all the work and the organs probably should earn even less than 2%. Who needs anti if your fans are a bunch of retards like them.

>> No.49275586

>>49275484
Sound like it you who is crying here nijikek and im not a holobronies but you guys certainly deserved it.

>> No.49275590

>>49275334
Ladies and gentlemen, this is what retardation in its purest form looks like.

>> No.49275597

>>49275499
Has been said by Mysta, other JPs and from False's several sources so it is 100% legit that they get 1-3% mostly 1%

>> No.49275598

Does talent renumeration being almost double the net profit mean that investors get less money than Holos? That's insane and good for Holos.

>> No.49275605

>>49274026
Sis, gross profit include gain from investment, you want to use operating profit for your estimation table

>> No.49275606

>>49275450
>>49275474
Slow moving holo brains. Merch isn't the only source of income. Streaming revenue alone is in the millions.

>> No.49275608

>>49275575
Their oshi is unironically anycolor

>> No.49275609

>>49275493
Elira did what?

>> No.49275627

>>49275493
Because it isn't the yab you think it is Mister 1%

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>>49275499
>defend nijisanji, didn't watch niji liver
Hilarious!
Kuzuha and mysta literally talked about it on their stream.

>> No.49275648

Holo defense force on full tilt with this one. Guess they were tired of making Fauna bait threads.

>> No.49275659

>>49275334
Keep posting bro! Maybe you'll get to spend 1% of a day on his yacht!

>> No.49275675

>>49275597
>>49275642
I mean, 1% is ridiculous number

>> No.49275714

>>49275642
hey now anon, the dude isn't defending nijisanji he's just asking for sources.

>> No.49275719

>>49275334
Let's assume that Anycolor gets $15000 and Cover $1000, that means that a Niji girl gets $150 and a Holo gets $300, so even with that bullshit statement that stills makes Anycolor look like shit.

>> No.49275748

>>49275499
It actually minus% profit for liver, selen losing 5k money just to pick 5 outfit for her contest while nijisanji get 50-100k worth of outfit design for free.

>> No.49275765

>>49275675
Mysta did
mostly with strained smile though and tried to pass it off as a joke
but with the revelation from Zaion's doc, it seems more believeable

>> No.49275775
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Fuck you Yagoo I thought you were a savior fag, couldn’t have been more wrong

>> No.49275802

>>49275675
It not ridiculous when their top top top liver kuzuha said he didn't even make a dime on merch.

>> No.49275805

>>49275608
That's the sad part, it isn't a joke. The current Nijifanbase has leaned more on cult-like territory over time, they're like Scientology where they question nothing and shame and harass any talents on their way out, even when they've been out of the company and talking about their experiences working there, like what happened with Zaion.

>> No.49275815

>>49275370
Where the fuck did the 30/70 come from? Op just guess the numbers based on voices on his head.

>> No.49275825

>>49275675
Exactly, Kuzuha is literally the biggest nijisanji and he said something like "I don't get money from merch, so i don't care how many merchs you buy".

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>>49275648
>>49275775

>> No.49275838

>>49275499
>why are you guys shitting on the chuubas.
They are shitting on the company for not treating their chuubas well.

>> No.49275840

>>49275805
Niji fanbase is literally a cargo cult on twitter that doesnt watch streams lmao

>> No.49275850

>>49275815
Op is a drama twitter vtube reporter. That's all you need to know.

>> No.49275871

>>49275815
Read the (OP)
> Assume
> Estimate
> Source: (OP)'s ass

>> No.49275910

>>49275825
This soft confirms that the average liver makes much more than 1%. %5 is more realistic

>> No.49275911

>>49275495
The topic was what fans ought to buy to support her (as opposed to Cover), which is why she was afraid to say too much. Her earning more total in SCs doesn't mean that birthday merch isn't better for her in theory, dollar for dollar.
I.e. if fans want to spend $500 on her, she indicates that it would be better to spend that on birthday merch as opposed to SCs. (But also that this isn't true for all merch, and that some merch might be just as "bad" as SCs.)

>>49275559
Yes, she said that not ALL merch is better than SCs, but she also specified birthday merch as especially lucrative to the talents. ("You can't go wrong with birthday merch".) So the message is pretty clear: If you just want the most bang for your buck to support your oshi directly, buy birthday merch. Other merch and SCs, not necessarily.

>> No.49275940

>>49275765
Jesus, i didn't like en livers, but it's really sad seeing that vid.

>> No.49275943

>>49274026
delicious seethe, you actually spent precious time to do all this just cause the 1% thing bothered you so much! lmao

>> No.49275964

>>49275815
some nijinigger got bullied out of /#/ >>49274634

>> No.49276111

https://twitter.com/ike_eveland/status/1656993511596597251

So this is the reason. Another niji "break"

>> No.49276149

Lmao, so it turns out that holowhores have to pay when merch balance is in negative, in other words:
> -1%
Expected nothing more from a black company

>> No.49276262

>>49276111
Break for what? Should I even believe him or this another stealth suspension?

>> No.49276277

>>49276149
Anikara is so pathetic that it's resorting to wumao, the absolute state of Nijisanji.

>> No.49276313

>>49275484
>starts shit
>cries when being clapped back
why are nijinigs so pathetic?

>> No.49276321 [DELETED] 

Gross profit 9396
Operating profit 3417
Tax 909
Net profit 2508

EBIT = 2508 + 909 = 3417

I notice, EBIT is the exact number of operating profit.
Can you explain why the non-operating profit was not taxed?

>> No.49276322

>>49276277
At least their talents don't go into debt

>> No.49276374

>>49276313
t. crying holokek

>> No.49276376

>>49276322
They go into debt just by debuting

>> No.49276385

>>49276322
Name one holo that is in debt

>> No.49276407

>>49276322
Zaion confirmed that they literally do, my little bug friend.

>> No.49276431

>>49276385
All of them

>> No.49276436

>>49276322
Zaiom confirmed that every liver goes into debt at the start. Nijisanji makes 15x more revenue btw

>> No.49276469

>>49276277
They have been resorting to troll farm, bot farm, intern for as long as I can remember

>> No.49276473

>>49276262
Yeah, thats why talents like Reimu and Enna are so happy about their financial situations right? They'd never beg their fans to give them money right?
Oh wait.
https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou/status/1656471122936774659

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>>49274026
2.343%

>> No.49276485

>>49274606
AYYYY DELIT DELIT SISTERS HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN TO US 25 HOLOS EARNED MILLION LAST YEAR

>> No.49276489

>>49276374
>>49276322
very organic postings my friend!

>> No.49276514

>>49274026
Kek look at this nerd pulling out excel spreadsheet for data pulled out of his ass.
You really can't argue with retard.

>> No.49276515

>>49276407
She was talking about her debut when she just joined.
I am talking about Hobolive talents paying for negative sales, my little pagpag friend.

>> No.49276535

>>49276385
Lamy

>> No.49276564

>>49274026
Staff and licenses ain't cheap retard. Gotta pay the workers too so they can work with the talents. Cover's CEO isn't trying to squeeze for a yacht.

>> No.49276573

>>49276473
Isn't Reimu Colombian? How bad is the situation in Niji if she has to give up food in Latin America?

>> No.49276577

>>49274522
Least obvious Nijinigger lol

>> No.49276595
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49276595

oloENshit concert that has to rely on HoloJP status?
>Gen5 crappy 2k venue and STILL haven’t sold out status??

Holokek status? Coping and seething at their equally black company with all of their livers in debt KEK

>> No.49276632

>>49276473
Jesas she is petty begging for scs. Nijilivers ares starving meanwhile CEO fucks his whores on a yacht

>> No.49276653

>>49276515
No, you were talking about what comes out of your filthy ass, I was talking about things that actually happen outside of your demented head.

>> No.49276698

>>49276653
Damn, so much projecting is bad for ones health.

>> No.49276713

>>49276595
>Kuala Lumpur

>> No.49276745

>>49276515
Just because it hurts when you get called out doesn't mean it works when you just throw it around

>> No.49276746

>>49276595
All holo livers rely on their pl because their normal pays are so low. You never see nijisanji funneling like leeches. They are loyal to the company.

>> No.49276773

>>49276698
If you know that why don't you try to improve your condition?

>> No.49276776

>>49276515
Proof?

>> No.49276778

>>49276653
Anon, stop arguing with retard.
You can't reason with their delusion. Just let them cope and live in La la land before they commit unalive.

>> No.49276815

>>49276746
It could also be that Hololive doesn't care about what the talents do when they arent streaming, while Anycolor discourages if not outright forbids past life activities that they can make money on.

>> No.49276825

>>49276595
>Not sold out
Retarded nijinigger making shit up who would have thought

>> No.49276849

>>49276778
I'm enjoying it, it's like mocking an animal at the zoo, the worst they can do is screech and look silly.

>> No.49276863

What if riku come out and say "I say, we double our talent's salary!"

>> No.49276896

>>49276863
Double of 0 is still 0 anon...

>> No.49276898

>>49276863
1% now becomes 2%

Holokeks SEETHING

>> No.49276905

>>49276863
>Double the salary
That's still 0, anon.

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>>49276595
>Livers in debt
>Top 20 making one to two million per year
Careful Milliemage, you'll curse yourself another fifty yabs if you don't shut up

>> No.49276933

>>49276746
SISTER DON'T LOOK >>49274606

>> No.49276935

>>49274026
Holy shit this retard really made up the numbers and took it to the catalog without even reading anything.
How mindbroken are you nijibros..? I'm starting to get concerned...

>> No.49276937
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49276937

>>49274134
I like the goblin-squirrel.

>> No.49276941

>assume
>30% of merch revenue
It's still 30 times better than Nijisanji...

>> No.49276962

>>49276918
Niji talents make the same if not more

>> No.49276969

>>49274026
>1 USD = 75 yen
What the fuck?

>> No.49276992

>>49274026
Wow, seems like nijisisters arse is still hurt for the 2% .

>> No.49276994

>>49276962
RORU RAMAO

>> No.49277038
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>>49275446
>>49274300
They see little rev from licenced merch that clients like Omocat or Good Smile Company sell out there.
Cover is just trading the usage of their IP on cases like that, and oversee the usage of their brand.
The talents also most likely get revenue from the licencing deal, but it's most likely as small as the deal the Nijis get.
This is how you make their IP attractive to other clients.
Talents get rich by their Birthday/Anniversary waves of merch and streaming income, which are worked under the scheme we're pretty familiar with.

>> No.49277039

>>49275099
i would bitch too if i seen it as the merch being brought almost exclusivly to support you, their oshi and having half of it being taken by a company
to her she is probably seeing it as an equal to 50% taxes on top of governement taxes

>> No.49277067

>>49274026
>Literally making up all percentage
The brightest nijinigger only amounts to this huh

>> No.49277076

>>49276969
Yeah they switched it around, it's $0.75 = 100 yen.
It's still correct in the spreadsheet conversions though.

>> No.49277111

>>49276941
Revenue =/= sales, dumb anon

>> No.49277116

>>49274026
>if we assume

>> No.49277120

>>49276992
Yep, and the topic has actually started to die down a bit.
But they have to keep voluntarily shooting themselves on the foot.
Just like fans just like company.

>> No.49277136

Also, stop using sheep images if you are not watching her

>> No.49277165

>>49275002
pretty sure interns have to pay to get work experience exposure

>> No.49277191

>>49277136
Careful anon, you just incurred the wrath of the Watamage. She's going to cast a spell on NijiEN.

>> No.49277237

>holofans falseflagging and making ridiculous claims to make nijifans look bad

>> No.49277284

>>49274546
>known grifter with anti hololive bias
retard.

>> No.49277323

>>49274546
I stopped watching as soon as he said journalist and napkin math.
Fucking Retard.

>> No.49277326

Man, this thread is absolutely hilarious, even the fucking OP starts with ''IF WE ASSUME'' fucking embarrassing nijisisters.

>> No.49277344

Riku Tazumi just announced he will doubled Niji merch share.
Holokek status?

>> No.49277358

>>49276962
>X to Doubt
But post your source if it's not from your ass.
Cover released it's financials, source is talent revenue percent taken from Net Profit minus Cost of Sales (talent costs)

>> No.49277405

Why the fuck aren't the meidos banning these faggots? This isn't even a thread about factual numbers, but assumptions, all for the sake of shitposting. And that's not even counting the schizo posting in the thread.

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>>49277358

>> No.49277450

>>49277237
>Make retarded claim
>Everyone not buying your bullshit
>"I-It was holofans I swear!!"
Yeah, i can also make unfounded claim that OP mom has fucked a monkey.
You just have to believe me on it.
And if I'm wrong, it wasn't actually me, but OP hacking my computer to make me look bad.

>> No.49277470

>>49276776
next thread :^)

>> No.49277473

>>49277405
It'd be funny if Nijisanji outright funds the meidos or if they have a rogue NijiIntern among them.

>> No.49277481

>>49274546
This guy has never been right about anything, ever

>> No.49277542

>>49275606
How do they make more money in streaming revenue if they have less than half the viewers/schats/members

>> No.49277600

>>49277542
beCause I said so

>> No.49277656

>>49275200
anon, the latest pathetic attempt at defense they tried was to flex their livers money as if that absolves all the stupid shit blackcolor does.
take a guess.

>> No.49277703

>>49274634
Nijisisters made their own board and are still coming here to get humiliated daily. Boggles the mind.

>> No.49277755

>>49277191
The arbiter of fate can't egosearch my post if I don't use her name/image

>> No.49277768

>>49275200
Anon their management is unironically their fan with how they would rather throw their organ under the bus than to admit Nijisanji can do any wrong

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>>49276898

>> No.49277928
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why are holofags so obsessed with nijisanji?

>> No.49278054
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49278054

>>49277928
.

>> No.49278156

>>49275180
Leaving asides the OP's retarded assumption, I'm pretty sure if simply giving opinions like "I want my merch to look like this" or occasionally asking your manager what the progress is, is enough to get the streamers 30 times more merch cut, Cover'd still look super generous.
Custom merch isn't the same as talent-funded merch.

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>>49275606
If they are making millions in streming then hololive is making double of that so holos are richer anyways going by your retarded assumptions

>> No.49278232

>>49277755
>Nijitroons shitpost Gura/Ina's hiatus and 'bless' lazulight/obsydia's new outfits with Milliemage posting
>Watamage strikes back with an unending flood of niji yabs culminating in Zaion's exposé, a 100k Holo concert, and a new financial report revealing almost doubled profits and incredible talent revenue.

>> No.49278243

>>49277928
We love VTubers. Thus, hearing that chuuba are being treated way way below industry standards make >us feel bad even if those VTubers aren't Hololive members

>> No.49278292

>>49278175
Bots don't superchat

>> No.49278310

>>49275606
>Streaming revenue alone is in the millions
>Mysta only had to pay £21k in tax
Something doesn't check out unless you are saying that not only Mysta was a master of tax evasion, he also publicly admitted it

>> No.49278321

>>49278175
>that holostars drop
KEK

>> No.49278414

>>49278243
Speak for yourself. I'm in full support of Riku not paying his livers anything. If they can also make the SC cut 1-3% for nijiEN specifically, it would be better.

>> No.49278543
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this is unironically the most pathetic, embarrassing thread nijinigs have shit out in a long time.

>> No.49278642

>>49274026
lol nijifaggot going full schizo to cope.

>> No.49278711

>>49277038
Yeah, that's what I assumed. Makes a lot of sense.

>> No.49278766

>>49274135
Who do I believe? This niji intern scribbling numbers on their napkin or Kaichou?

>> No.49279140

It might be 30% of the total, but it could be 50/50 after you account for expenses

>> No.49279966

>>49274026
Oh wow, given your "napkin math" they did get 10% of concert sales on top of being salaried for the time taken for training? That's honestly pretty good.

5% out of sponsor deals? not bad especially if SCs are turned on it will also funnel some money back to them.

Btw, 30% of profit is still around the ballpark of what I imagine, given Cover staffs are the one being told to run around to contacts several factories based on what the talent wants. They also assumingly are the one handling all finances and upfront payments, which should be fairly easy since all their incomes are routed through Cover first. Its pretty easy for Cover to just withhold some of their income, so it can be used for payment of projects and other things. Honestly, really not bad at all and pretty fair considering all the investments Cover is currently undertaking.

Btw, as a sidenote, 5% is the lowest I assume for Niji so I am shocked that the number is half of that. Even Cover's "license" gives out 5%, and this is for third-party goods like Omocat, or GSC figures.

>> No.49279980

>>49274300
Fauna had to dance around the fact the talent merch split depends on whether it's generic merch or custom birthday merch. Cover shills are trying way too hard to convince people Fauna was lying but that Kson would publicly tweet confidential merch split information from hololive.

>> No.49280061

>>49279966
Btw, I did not even cross-check your "math", but even then its still well within my expectations. Companies are not your friends, but there are quite abit that are pretty fair about things

>> No.49280244

>>49279980
For the sake of argument, let's agree that they do have different split. I doubt that 4th Fes and Expo goods have same splits as custom made-to-order goods of Anniversary and Birthday.

However, that's still 2 more opportunities dedicated to them that can potentially give them alot of money. 2 opportunities for custom made-to-order goods. Compare this to Niji's. And this does not include random merchs creation like Roberu's April Fools merch, Kiara's Holotalk, random milestone celebration, and other things that are clearly prompted by talent's side. Its just generally more chance to get more money

>> No.49280303

>>49278766
Kaichou

>> No.49280362

>>49277656
>Look guys, they are able to afford Computers!! and Cameras!!! They're clearly not living in poverty line!!!!

Its just sad.... Just look at how many houses Mori bought already.

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49280409

>>49274134
Lapu

>> No.49280602

>>49274546
The motherfucker said that SC split is 25%. Surely the rest of his math is accurate, right?

>> No.49280708

>>49274606
Look, OP is a retard, but you're also a retard

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>>49274026
>this thread still up
>meanwhile my non-bait thread gets deleted

>> No.49281072

>nijikeks trying this hard to deflect from their black company
>>49274546
lmao this retard isn't satisfied with how much he embarrassed himself with the silvervale article? imagine making yourself into even bigger of a laughing stock

>> No.49281157

>>49279980
Kson was talking about vshojo not holo. when the other 3 members left she said their contracts improved.
The clip was posted on /#/ although it was on twich not YouTube.

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49281429

>>49274134
The high-spec sexbot.

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49282039

>>49275575
This one is my favourite

>> No.49282269

>>49282039
This has to be a troll.

>> No.49282400

>>49282039
imagine only putting a 5% profit share on a merch you have exclusivity to sell(if its even true)

at least put a 20% one

>> No.49282880

>>49274206
Anonchama... :(

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>>49277136
No.
Watame said it's okay to shitpost using her image.
Not even hiroshimoot can order me to stop.

>> No.49283313

>>49280244
Yeah this is the heart of it: most hololive merch is custom and the talents get a good chunk of money out of it, most niji merch is generic and the talents get fuckall out of it.

>> No.49283652
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49283652

>>49282039
They are literally making up numbers now.

>> No.49284236

>>49274134
Matsuri, have a nice day

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49284563

>>49282039
>an Indonesian

>> No.49284713

Nijiretards...
>1%
>uuuuuh but hypothetically the hologirls might only make 30% or 50%!!!
As opposed to your 1%? Lmao

>> No.49284840

>>49282039
indonesians cant into money...

>> No.49284981

>>49282039
Jesus Christ. Anycolor would be finished if this fucker was their financial advisor.

>> No.49285140

i wouldn't be suprised if they only gets 5 percent for generic shill merch and 30 percent or more for anniversary stuff.

>> No.49285793
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49285793

>>49282039
>how is 2% bad
Kek. They’re in stage 3.

>> No.49286243

>1 USD = 75 YEN
:3c

>> No.49286277

>>49285793
>But they still make a lot of money
is the most retarded cope, they would and should be making way more but their corpo is screwing them over

>> No.49286640

>>49274026
The only person in all of Cover to complain about the profit share, including the terminations and graduations, was Coco and she's renegged on that after seeing what you're running deflection on.

>>49274134
Marine and Fubuki, and I never miss a Suisei singing stream.jp0n8d

>> No.49287334

>>49274026
Where do you get these percentages?

>> No.49287381

>>49274026
>10% out of concert sales, and 5% out of sponsor deals, then we can estimate that merch profit sharing is around 30:70 (that is, holomems gets 30% of merch revenue after production costs/raw materials etc, 70% goes to Cover for operational expenses (merch staffs, etc))
[citation needed]

>> No.49287639

>>49282039
>20k on Marketing
Who are you paying it to? Even if I don't confirm anything else, why you spend 20k on someone else, when you literally have an influencer network?
>10k on logistics
Jesus, you're shipping few boxes, not a full container. And even a full container is not this expensive.

Not bothering to read the rest.

>> No.49287718

>>49282039
>made up numbers
>made up numbers
>made up numbers
>made up numbers

>> No.49287782

>>49282039
You know. They spend $20k on all those commercials for the merch.
Also staff has to get paid more than the talent. Cuz they totally get paid on commission and not a fixed salary.

>> No.49287854

>>49282039
>HOW IS 2% OF MERCH SALES BAD??
Beyond the non-sensical math, it makes sense that a person in fucking Argentina would defend this bad company. They probably aren't used to the idea of having money.

>> No.49287899

>>49282039
I know this retard. He was smugly making up numbers and claiming 2% isn't that bad, until someone pointed out that kson said it is bad lmao https://twitter.com/VTuberIDN/status/1656262804779974657

>> No.49287938

>>49262917 was already retarded, this is even worse. What does it take to get all these numbermonkeys back into their fucking cage?

>> No.49288025

>>49287854
see >>49284563

>> No.49288097

>>49275964
That doesn't excuse posting /#/ outside the thread. Jesas.

>> No.49288134

>>49286277
It doesn't even make sense either. That 2% profit isn't bad is still assuming the merch sells a ton of money. And that's assuming its shared between all the livers as opposed to the more realistic scenario, where the liver only makes money from the merch they sell.

>> No.49288313

>>49274688
kys

>> No.49288508

>>49288025
An Indonesian living in Argentina. Jesus, now it makes sense why he's fighting for Anycolor, he isnt used to that money.

>> No.49288623

>>49288097
How new? They did originate from /#/, but their main focus is not only posting about numbers, they specialize in all kinds of schizoposting. Those Fauna bait threads? You can guarantee it's their work.
Even at some point admitting that they are using bots for shitting up the board >>45364057

>> No.49290003

>>49274026
>guesstimates
>assume

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49290112

>>49274026
>thread with completely made up numbers stays up
>actuall thread with decent discussio gets deleted
What is actually going on here?

>> No.49290143

The actual estimates say that Cover gets like 45%, the talents get like 38%, and the cost of production/distribution is like 16%.
So it's pretty close to a 50/50 split. Not bad at all.

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49290230

you fags aren't seriously wasting your time over this shit right?

>> No.49290909

>>49274026
>Not Bl-ACK

>> No.49290972

>>49288623
You Nijifags post your bait in there and then move it to the catalog. Your kind are the bane of this board.

>> No.49290988

>>49290112
Pretty obvious one of the jannies is a sister.
Also I bet this is their attempt to rewrite history coordinated in their discord. Just keep posting again and again until it's over 100 posts and people will enter the thread thinking this is a legit thread.

>> No.49291107

>>49290988
Accurate. Got fags like this >>49288623 all over the place trying to do their revisionism as well.

>> No.49291488

>>49274026
Looks like a bigger number than 1% to me

>> No.49293446

>>49274026
Point and laugh lol.

>> No.49294900

>>49274026
not my problem

>> No.49294972

>>49283300
motherfucking sheeposters
stop stirring the pot justifying yourself with rrats
think of the consequences!!

>> No.49296089

>>49282039
A lot of these and the flexing ones are Indonesians, it's funny.
They'll never say anything about ex-KR or their very own ex-ID though.

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