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>> No.49264015
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.49264063

Thread theme
https://youtu.be/JrbASwSdyx4

>> No.49264130

>>49264007
This go by percentage,not real number so it only mean their domestic is larger than foreigner and many foreigner open their fan account with JP region.

>> No.49264142

So what's that 2% label on the graph mean and why are streamers 16 to 20 hovering around 2%?

>> No.49264331

>>49264142
>earnings for each talent's merch, sponsorship, concert etc..
Their contribution to the gross revenue

>> No.49266401

>better than blacksanji and cover
also 70k

>> No.49266588
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>>49264142
>So what's that 2%
Nijisanji merch cut

>> No.49266662

>>49266401
Runa will get over 100k
Ema even more

>> No.49266882
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>>49266662
Noah could have been the peak given her old popularity, but i do hope Nose gets 100k

>> No.49267157

hololive is ded, vspo is now

>> No.49267351

>>49267157
I for one welcome VSPO displacing Niji as the main competition

>> No.49267430

Numberfags consume numbers data like digimon but more retarded

>> No.49267492

So did cover hide the homo away from the investors?

>> No.49267511

>>49267492
Not entirely, but they didn't have a lot to say about them either.

>> No.49267563

>>49267492
Nope, yagoo even proudly show starsen subs.

>> No.49267600

Is the vspo box just really strong at the moment or does she have some other buff? Just checked her vod numbers and outside of like a week of 100k rust streams she has lower than HoloEN numbers. Like her numbers wouldn't really stick out in NijiEN even

>> No.49267630

>>49267600
JP FPS community is tight bruh

>> No.49267649

>>49267511
They combine them with hololive numbers lol. Coward!

>> No.49267656 [SPOILER] 

100K

>> No.49267685

>>49267600
vspo have finally taken over niji as the 2nd

>> No.49267723

>>49267351
No one in the west will give a shit about the competition until they get a VSPOEN. Back before NijiEN no one really gave a shit about nijisanji even though they were a far greater competitor back then

Not talking about people giving a shit about individual vtubers, like of course there were people in the west caring about Luna and Mito and etc etc, just talking about the brand as a rival in the west. Outside of /jp/ no one gave a shit about the rivalry. Like how there will be no animosity towards VSPO now even if they continue to incline

>> No.49267733

i remember VSPO's growth being pretty impressive in the rolling avarages chart
i wonder if they'll ever dethrone NijiJP or HoloEN

>> No.49267738

>>49267685
Not like that lol
3D, collab, birthday
Doesn't count, nigger
Regular stream number
Even BlackSanji now pathetic, can't even reach 15k number

>> No.49267777

>>49267733
>i wonder if they'll ever dethrone NijiJP
already did
>HoloEN
already did

>> No.49267820

Sora really likes games where she appears as a character. She didn't touch Holocure until she was added and now she's going for a second dip on Idol Showdown.

>> No.49267874

>>49267351
Based. I agree.

>> No.49267934

>>49267723
VSPO was not VSHOJO Japanese branch?

>> No.49268010

>>49267934
No, more like Better NijiJP branch with a good FPS Vtuber.

>> No.49268097

>>49263995
>zero vspo 3d pictures itt
Are you guys gay?

>> No.49268175

>>49268097
Wait till the end of day first, can't you?
go prepared VSPO lewd and come again 5 hours later.

>> No.49268261

>>49267934
VSPO started as >lemao women esports, then they realised that women suck at it and should just be cute and entertaining instead

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>>49268097
Here you go anon. Don't cum yet

>> No.49268320

>>49268294
dont do it anon, you're gonna get the vspo ninjas on you

>> No.49268327

EASY 10K FOR MY AUTISTIC MAP WIFE

>> No.49268335
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Vspo day

>> No.49268367

>>49268097
Imagine losing to Patra 3D live in EOP mindshare. VSPOshills need to learn to tone down their arrogance

>> No.49268376

Have VSPO ever got 100k before?

>> No.49268470

Niji using bots again. 70k in 5 minutes? This should be 200k stream.

>> No.49268471

>>49268327
who

>> No.49268543

Boltaction vs VSPO? Is this a race?

>> No.49268558

>Vspo getting Hololive level numbers
How?

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>>49268471
Kys

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>>49268471

>> No.49268751
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49268751

Cute

>> No.49268756

>>49268558
>Vspo getting mid level Holomembers numbers by raiding one another
I wonder...

>> No.49268765

>>49268543
Man Manjisanji is outsourcing their whores nowadays

>> No.49268803

>>49267600
It’s the FPS box

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49268834

>>49268097
Sorry, I'm busy watching Ayame mama

>> No.49268852

GeoGuessr >>> Idol Showdown confirmed

>> No.49268867

Why are there two threads who link to different OPs now, did I miss something?

>> No.49268883

>>49268010
VSPO and HoloJP both picked apart Niji fanbases

>> No.49268884

>>49268867
This one is really really early thread

>> No.49268885
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49268885

This look bad

>> No.49268893

>>49263995
previous
>>49264009

>> No.49268897

>>49268751
>>49268834
>Watching a Homo enabler

>> No.49268902

>singing
AYYY VSPOBROS OUR FPS NARRATIVES AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.49268916

Sumire is singing AAAAAAHHHHHH~

>> No.49268936

>>49268867
Looks like this was an earlynigger thread

>> No.49268937

>>49268885
Damn, this is koikatsu level 3d.

>> No.49268941

>>49268884
Oh, just that? I was hoping the ENsharts had finally made their own thread.. I'm sad now.

>> No.49268948

>>49268885
not even VR chat look this shit

>> No.49268971

why is this thread still alive?

>> No.49269028

Bros... I'm leaning back in my chair, I'm reclining...

>> No.49269037

Hey it's number 90k

>> No.49269064

>>49268885
Holy shit it false

>> No.49269109
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49269109

Migo!

>> No.49269154

>>49268885
Did false infiltrate Niji HQ?

>> No.49269298

>>49263995
There's a chance that one of those big 20, making millions, are ID.
I don't know how much cost of living there, but I'm guessing they already make enough money to retire right now if they want to.
How old is kobo again?

>> No.49269316

100k

>> No.49269422

110k

>> No.49269468

>>49269298
>There's a chance that one of those big 20, making millions, are ID.
Uh no. No chance. Kobo would be the big earner of ID and she's poverty tier compared to even mid range JPs like Nene.

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>>49268885
I can't believe niji dogeza to false and gave him a 3d debut

>> No.49270750

i love my map wife.

>> No.49270837

So falseeyed lewds?

>> No.49271258

>VTA graduates gets 100k
This is the future of VTubing

>> No.49272023

>>49270662
lmao can't unsee

>> No.49272121
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>overseas viewers up compared to 2020
>but holoEN viewers way down
Kek people are just straight up watching women they don't understand in order to avoid the laziness and toxicity of holoen. Ruh roh white woman, looks like you've been outshined by japanese chicks again and all they did was just not be totally insane and horrible.

>> No.49273680

>>49272121
Or perhaps the post-processing numbers are higher than >we thought. No one outside of Hololive members and management has seen those so that only remains a guess (which could be terribly wrong to the level of copium), of course.
If even Niji***EN*** got a 20% viewership cull last year (according to Vox), I think it's reasonable to assume HoloEN & HoloID are at least affected by the same level, likely higher. (the same applies to those with high portion of Western audience, i.e: NijiEN chuubas who have been streaming and building their fanbases in EN hours)

>> No.49273951

>>49273680
Kronii's collapsing merch sales speak for themselves I think.

>> No.49274018

>>49273951
Kronii shit all over her fans, and is genuinely a terrible human being. Most Holos haven't done that.

>> No.49274183

>>49274018
Curious what it is about chicks from the frozen shithole commie country like enna and kronii that makes them -like that-.

>> No.49277025

>>49274018
>Kronii shit all over the people trying to deliberately start shit in her SCs who weren't even regular viewers in the first place and acknowledged them as such
Schizos really hate including that little bit of inconvenient context because their house of cards collapses pretty easily otherwise

>> No.49277548

>>49277025
Total
Merch
Collapse

>> No.49279220

Rank them in regards to how much do they love their fanbase
>Kiara
>IRyS
>Fauna
>Mumei

>> No.49279288

>>49272665
Elden ring you have the expectation of seeing the girls being tortured by bosses, Zelda is more about the exploration and sense of wonder by arriving in certain places, is not that fun to watch

>> No.49279307

>>49267820
Goddesses often have high standards, yes.

>> No.49279308

>>49267492
they sold it as "opening up new markets" or some shit like that without indicating if it was successful or not

>> No.49279331

>>49279220
Kiara>Bae>Mooms>Fauna>Irys

>> No.49279346

we using this thread?

>> No.49279376

>>49279346
Fuck no why did you bump it? It's like three threads out of date.

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49279377

Stop shitposting and come watch Hime, I’m not asking nicely anymore

>> No.49279406

>>49279346
if you like using bait OP and letting the fuckers shit this thread, then sure
otherwise bake a new bread with VSPO/NIJI OP since they did get the gold

>> No.49279441

>>49279308
So... We can assume it wasn't successful, no?

>"Hey, anon, how did it go with that girl you asked out?"
>"Uh..."

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>>49279377
I can't, hearing her baby voice makes me hard and I can't explain it to my family

>> No.49279443

>>49266401
>better than cover
Don't get too cocky vspchud, you don't want to anger watamage right?

>> No.49279460
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Rough guesstimates on Talent/Company profit sharing based on Cover's FY2023 financial report and some known data such as channel profit sharing.
Source: https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/4f1872d7/00b1/4608/ae53/91e8fe62579e/20230512160316925s.pdf

if we assume holomems gets an even split between them and Cover on all earning generated from their yt channel and twitch, 10% out of concert sales, and 5% out of sponsor deals, then we can estimate that merch profit sharing is around 30:70 (that is, holomems gets 30% of merch revenue after production costs/raw materials etc, 70% goes to Cover for operational expenses (merch staffs, etc))
This includes averages from all commerce sales such as voice packs, general merchs, custom merchs, event merchs, etc.

>> No.49279487

Come on anon! I've been waiting for b2 to sweep clean Cover's stock since your IPO shitposts!
Where is it anon?? Wheeeerrreeeeeeeeeee???

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Holokeks we are going home.

>> No.49279496

>>49278883
No holofans biggest percentage in jp are casual tourists that would defend the company thats done right by the talents first. The west is limited tourist who are obsessed with each talent and no matter how in the wrong they are will defend the talents. When pekora cried about her event, or coco’s graduation a good portion defended the company with they’re trying to look out for you or they did their best and she didn’t want to stay. On the flip side you have people that would praise siphoning almost 100k subs to your rm because “cover didn’t make you famous you did it alone.” or push them to become indies because all cover does is steal. Though there are those that blame the company for anything and everything on the jp side and a few that defend cover on en side. It all depends on the level of tourist/casuals which is a sad thing that Gura’s core is larger then the tourist and casuals of every en vtuber

>> No.49279498

you're reposting that shit again here?
really nigga?

>> No.49279530

>>49279487
Preparing $75BY bid to buy Cover.

>> No.49279536

>>49272121
I mean, I watch what piques my interest, and holoEN definitely doesn't provide that because they either stream boring shit or none at all.

>> No.49279541

>>49279530
2 more weeks?

>> No.49279560

>>49279308 (me)
the exact phrasing is
>debuts in new areas

>> No.49279571

>>49279442
Isn't it because you know it's an adult woman thats speaking like a baby?

>> No.49279576

>>49279496
At least all Niji fan know that Anycolor is shit

Holodrones worship Cover like a religion. Literally the consoomer mindset.

>> No.49279582

>>49279527

>> No.49279586

>>49264130
That makes more sense to you then a drop in overseas viewership coinciding with their debut. Holofes, Gura, and Ina’s return brought back a huge portion and they’re gone again. Unless you’re a homobeggar there’s no other way to read that

>> No.49279609

I consider a stream a success if the VOD ever reaches 100k views. Is that a good metric?

>> No.49279620

>>49279576
>Defends company over Zaion
>"You guys worship company like religion!!"

>> No.49279628

>>49279576
How is that in any way better?

>> No.49279632

>>49279571
probably
It's also probably that I might be attracted to a minor and that scares me

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>>49279632
sexy adulto woman

>> No.49279670

>>49279460
>guesstimates
Doing this again, are you?

>> No.49279673

>>49267492
Let’s put it this way they grouped tempukes debut with suisei’s sololive month, and equated the success of cons to being a group effort

>> No.49279690

>>49279620
>>49279628
We knew all about the merch cuts being shit for example.

Why do Holodrones defend the exact same shit for them? Oh right, it's OK when Blue Dorito does it!!!

>> No.49279701

>>49272121
I’m a burger and I skip every EN karaoke except Gura (2 time a year) and IRyS. Yet I’m here hearing Luna sing her heart out.
I love half of HoloEn but I’m hate the other half, now include the homos and I like about 30% of them only

>> No.49279729

>>49279690
one is confirmed
one is rrat

>> No.49279732

>>49279690
>defend the exact same shit for them
Stop seething about your chuubas being poor

>> No.49279783

>>49279498
That's not me, but i tried adjusting so that the talents get even splits on all sources of income but commerce and it gives a 2:98 profit shares on commerce sales. Interesting stuff.
Not going to post the image this time since it'd just be material for bait threads again.

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>>49279690

>> No.49279801

>>49279690
>50% merch cut is "exact the same shit" as 1-3%
Okay sis!

>> No.49279818

>>49279609
No because 100k Americans/Euro/Aussie vod views are going to pay your x20-30 MORE than 100k Indo/Malay/Pinoy views

>> No.49279824

>>49279690
>everybody must be as shitty as us!
the final argument of a nijinog

>> No.49279847

>>49279818
How come?

>> No.49279858

>>49279690
>Hololive had bad merch cuts
>Niji has bad merch cuts
One of these statements is a guess, the other is real, confirmed, and now, well-known.

>> No.49279913

>>49279801
>50%
It was confirmed 30% though. Read your own company's financial report.

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>based from colored scale of Cost of Sales breakdown
Here a 2nd version. Basically, a 50:50 split on revenue, but the Talent will burden the other cost of sales.

While Cover pay its own 400 employees, taxes and operations with their share.

>> No.49279944

>>49279913
>confirmed
where?

>> No.49279968

>>49279944
Did you read my source? >>49279460

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49279979

>>49279690
We finally reached that stage

>> No.49280003

>>49279913
30% is the estimated amount for commerce sales.
merch cuts, or particularly custom merch cuts are unfortunately not estimatable from the financial report.

>> No.49280010

>>49279968
"your" guesswork?

>> No.49280029

>>49279968
even the maker of that spreadsheet abhorred you for twisting his word

>> No.49280052

>>49279968
That's my source and you didn't read it anon. See >>49280003

>> No.49280060

>30% is the same as 1%
Explain this

>> No.49280071

>>49279979
kek

>> No.49280074

>>49279968
you're still trying nigger? Why dont you just kill yourself

>> No.49280091

>>49279968
>source
Are you a high schooler? Thats called speculation.

>> No.49280107

>>49279847
That’s how YouTube works. Companies buy ADs and YouTube gives you 50-55% of what they paid. Of course companies are going to bid higher and spend more on countries with more money and no monopolies.

>> No.49280114

stop using this thread, retards. There's a new one up.

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