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4915283 No.4915283 [Reply] [Original]

She straight up baits memberships the last month she can. Fucking gold hoarding dragon.

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>> No.4915502

>says she can't disclose the reasons behind her graduation
>discloses them anyway in members only stream
>publicly implies that members only stream had important information
>???
>PROFIT!
I'm starting to believe that she's half-Jewpanese.

>> No.4917069

>>4915502
read between the lines, she had fights with management or something like that

>> No.4917102

>>4915502
All Americans are Jewish by nature. Just look at Calli. They hate Jews because they share the same characteristics with them. It's a Jungian Complex.

>> No.4917144

>>4915283
She just wanted to warn people that all the member streams were going to be deleted (because it's what happens when the monetization is turned off), so everybody could watch them before it happened.

>> No.4917241

>>4917144
That she said in public announcement. This time she literally says "hey, I said some important things in members-only, better check it out!"

>> No.4917379

>>4917102
that's one hell of a claim my man, can you in anyway back that up or are you just spouting shit?

>> No.4917417

>>4915283
Jews in jewtube, what's new

>> No.4917414

>>4917379
Look at the board you're on and answer that question yourself

>> No.4917425

>>4915283
Zhang, go back.

>> No.4917443

>>4917241
What important things did she say?

>> No.4917448

>>4915283
She can have all my gold for all I care

>> No.4917457

>>4917069
I can't believe A-chan slapped her between the lines in front of Yagoo!

>> No.4917459

>>4915283
looks like shes still insecure. mentally unwell.

>> No.4917493

>>4917459
cute menhera doragon ooooooh i'm gonna cum

>> No.4917757

Can we get an translation of what was said during stream? All I've seen so far is some beta cuck talking about how he wants to "respect Coco's wishes" and just gave some garbage generic answer.

>> No.4917993

>>4917459
she just lost her job anon

>> No.4918025

>>4917443
>>4917757
She said she leaves, because Hololive cracks down on content holos make, and she wants "creative freedom". You know, the shit she got famous for like drug jokes, menstruation jokes, toilet humour, hair removal streams, etc. Basically, she wants to go full VShojo but management won't let her.

>> No.4918049

>>4917459
Please stop projecting.

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>>4918025
>words words words VShojo words words words
just admit you don't want an actually funny chuuba in hololive

>> No.4918209

>>4918025
Did she say that explicitly? I hope so. After days of this place working into a schizoid frenzy over secret chinese investors on a year long campaign to bully her out, the truth is the most boring and mundane outcome possible: it was simple creative differences so she chose to move on.

>> No.4918222

>>4918160
I just don't want trashy whores
Otherwise I'd watch nijis

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>>4918160
Good job ignoring actual information and latching onto a buzzword. I'm new to baiting, so I'm glad it worked so well.

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>>4918222
you can either have trashy or boring in hololive, no exceptions

>> No.4918276

>>4918222
Asacoco was funnier than anything bland JP girls could ever produce, idolnigger

>> No.4918329

>>4918252
>I'm new
Yeah we can tell faggot

>> No.4918336

>>4918025
>"creative freedom".
is this garbage jargon or something among your sjw/chink shill cabal? you use that shit too much. its become a /vt/s buzzword.

>> No.4918342

I'm up for some drama.

>> No.4918350

>>4918160
If you remove
>Basically, she wants to go full VShojo but management won't let her.
He isn't wrong tho

>> No.4918419

>>4918025
If this is a joke, someone should speak up. I'm not trusting one single account. Did Coco talk about her reasons in the member stream?

>> No.4918469

>>4918336
She literally said she wanted to do a couple projects but they were all denied

>> No.4918487

>>4918276
this. Rushia became fun when she started going apeshit. At first it felt like a waste of time to watch anime avatars because it was just actual streaming... Most of it felt like white noise. But it started to become interesting as all of the others started revealing their own personalities outside the idol/"character" bullshit, and then Coco arrived and did whatever she wanted. They've been giving her shit since day one, though. During the MariCoco 3d stream they had ages ago, her manager kept telling her to not do this or that, because it was too risque,, sexy, "dangerous" or whatever

>> No.4918575

>>4918419
yes it's true.
Cover values Coco, but she values herself more. She's always had crazy ideas that don't fit with the mindset of Cover and their mission. This results in mental straining for her and problems with management. The problems were purely based on work stuff, though, apparently they do like her as a person. She said she won't be joining any other agency, and if she did, she'd be back at Hololive. She kept saying that she loves vtubing and that she won't really "quit", but she'll be doing her own thing now. Everything hints to a return to Kson. But Kson isn't as crazy as Coco.

>> No.4918582

>>4918469
Don't bother. You're arguing with a wall.
Everything is a grand conspiracy to appeal to the CCP and you will not change their mind.

>> No.4918628

>>4918469
This has happened to all members and Coco pointed that out, without giving names ofc. But Pekora and Marine have been particularly damaged by this before. There's also how much Nene's 3d stuff got delayed, if you watch the clip of the annoucement she says that she always wanted to be in Hologra but didn't knew why she wouldn't. We all know it's because they were rebooting her character to be less chinese, but it just opens up spaces for rrats.

>> No.4918657

>>4918582
seethe nijichink

>> No.4918724

>>4918628
Nene is the one who wanted to reboot her character because she wasn't satisfied with being a Gintama parody. She had been complaining about her character pretty much ever since debut, just like Anya. She knew she wouldn't be able to be in Hologra or get a new years outfit and did it anyway because she hated the china girl aesthetic so much.

>> No.4918732

>>4918487
Please do not use "though" at the end of your sentence.

>> No.4918744

>>4918270
trashy contents only work domestically.
If you don't get trashier, you'll be boring, and if you do, you'll get cancelled eventually.

>> No.4918749

>>4918724
What is Anya's problem?

>> No.4918811

>>4918724
rrat

>> No.4918820

>>4918657
You're doing plenty of the seething for me.

>> No.4918825

>>4918749
Hates her boobs. Wants to be a sassy flat loli.

>> No.4918836

>if it's not trashy it's boring
Why ADHDfags are like this?

>> No.4918842

>>4918487
Note how Rushia can be fun by going apeshit without going vulgar or crackhead. Coco's crude humour is way over the line for an idol agency, while raging yandere Rushia or domestic violence mr.Koro is perfectly fine.

>> No.4918880

>>4918749
> Anya
who?

>> No.4918885

>>4915283
>Coco behaves like an arrogant Karen whore
Well, Cap'n Obvious, yes. Yes she does. Yes she did years ago.

>> No.4918889

>>4918842
Do you want Marine to graduate next?

>> No.4918946

>>4918749
https://youtu.be/_uIE_NimZSM
>>4918811
both the anya and nene parts are from their actual streams you mouthbreather. go watch nene's 3D announcement where she talks about how it was her choice to get a new model.

>> No.4918949

>>4918582
True

>> No.4918968

>>4918889
No, Marine's innuendos are close, but not over the line. If anyone, it's Matsuri's turn next.

>> No.4919025

>>4918487
>>4918842
I disagree with this statement. Rushia's character (the one she constructed) is not mean to be funny because it is meant to be a strong GFE, which is entertaining to her gachikois but not to the general public. I don't want rushia because of this same reason and the joke of her character is the contrast between softspoken rushia GFE and her AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA outbursts.

>> No.4919053

>>4918968
Matsuri will be ignored because EOPs never watch her content live and she never makes her weird fetishes part of her streams. She just offhandedly talks about peeing herself or wanting to rape little girls while playing Apex.
If anything Haato is next, which is why she seems so unmotivated to stream lately.

>> No.4919149

>>4918889
Marine's constant sexual talks come from herself by being Too-virgin-for-her-own-good. Her talks are all about masturbation and watching porn, even saying it's okay for her fans to fap to her hot. Remembering all this is happening in a japanese otaku kissless hugless virgin context, it fits as a whole. I guess her fans are okay with it because in the end she remains being "pure".

It is different to an outgoing girl that says getting cum in her eye got her eyelids glued together.

>> No.4919196

>>4918732
I will keep on using it though

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>>4919149

>> No.4919256

>>4918025
Highly understandable if true. Choosing fun over profit is the best way for people to continue support. If they keep putting her on a short leash I don't blame her for leaving.

>> No.4919269

>>4919149
marine is a mangaka, i wonder if she has made ero doujins for comiket

>> No.4919273

>>4918889
Yes

>> No.4919303

>>4918946
>anyone on /vt/
>watching streams

>> No.4919311

>>4919149
I think she's had sex but isn't nearly as experienced as she sounds.

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>>4919256
Here. It's around 1h05m mark in her members-only.

>> No.4919349

>>4919303
Who watches every Anya stream to be honest.

>> No.4919394

>>4915283
Same reason she always picks memes about superchats, and advertises fake products with a superchatable price tag. She likes money, end of story. Also the same reason she is leaving membership open for 3 months.

It's not even a bad thing, but it definitely isn't new.

>> No.4919492

>>4918025
I don't really blame her, in fact I kind of wish the less seiso holos would either be split off from the idol side into a new branch within Cover or form their own agency to give them more freedom. It's not like I hate Cover over it either, they're trying to build a brand as a family friendly idol company and Coco knew that when signing the contract. She had been saying for months that she was trying to develop a replacement for Asacoco but there's just no place for Asacoco in the current Hololive where Kiara is giving shoutouts to toddler viewers in her superchats or whatever.

Seems like a true case of "creative differences" where no one is really in the wrong and it's for the best that Coco parts ways with Cover to do her own thing.

>>4919349
The Anya clip came out around the same time as rhombus Gura and they had the same rigger so it was a big deal that he fucked up Anya's chest so badly and was still given the job to work on Gura.

>> No.4919494

>>4919349
Nobody has ever watched even a single anya stream
All her views are bots

>> No.4919498

>>4919349
I honestly have no idea.
I never see her talked about, she's never clipped.
Doesn't collab much.

Who the fuck watches this person and why?
I'm guessing its a bunch of saviorfags because she is a literal who compared to the rest of the holomen

>> No.4919584

>>4919492
The "fuck up" was intentional just like Ame's rigger did the same "mistake", the difference is that Ame rolled with it and later on her mama adopted the change, meanwhile Anya insisted that the OG design is the canon one, pretty unfun.

>> No.4919612

>>4919492
Why do people act like Coco wasn't a idol? if she really wanted to not be one she would of had no problem collabing with the holostars.

>> No.4919662

>>4919584
Pretty sure Ame's design was intentional unless she's talked about it being a mistake. Anya cares a lot about her design and it's not really the rigger's right to "prank" her by ruining the design she and the artist wanted and the company paid for. That's not fun or funny it's just mean spirited and a waste of everyone's time.

>> No.4919724

>>4919612
That was likely one of the many things that got shot down. There's multiple girls in JP and I doubt only Matsuri and Fubuki are the only wants that want to.

>> No.4919729

>>4919311
I have no proof but I also have no doubt that marine was coerced into having sex with one of her wagecuck coworkers back when she was in that shady company. Considering her mariana-trench low self esteem plus how bad they treated her...

>> No.4919789

>>4919492
Cover only started becoming really family friendly once they getting bigger. The Cover crop back in 2019- 2020 is not same cover crop today.

>> No.4919872

>>4919612
Because loud dumb bitches are instinctively afraid of men, since they know they might have the power to shut their bitch hole up.

It's getting to the point where I have to dispense high school knowledge about women, you cocofaggots are just incredibly low IQ.

>> No.4919875

>>4918825
Man, I hope she doesn't actually believe this. No character design would save her. I hate to say it.

>> No.4919902

>>4919789
Right, they were more willing to overlook whatever their talents did because it was all in the name of growth. But now that they've achieved that growth they have to protect their brand and try to make it "mainstream" for sponsorships and TV deals and such. It's unfortunate that Coco is basically singelhandedly responsible for their explosive growth in the west and that growth is what ruined vtubing for her. Like some sick irony.

>> No.4919907

>>4918825
iktf

>> No.4920023
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I do wonder, freedom for what. I LOVE asacoco, the 6 am morning news report style is great, there were a ton of humorous gossip going on and it was refreshing to see her dissing other member's misses like nene and her shitty thumbnails. As far as I can tell, the only issue is that the drug fake products joke got out of hand.
What else do you think asacoco had that management said it was too much? Or rather, what things to you think coco wanted to do and got the NG from the boss? My strongest bet is that she got fed up with the idol buss and that was the trigger for her to want to leave but the bad management and lack of protection were the catalysts for her to make a decision.
I want to make a passing comment on haato as well. Let's be real, she herself said that it took her 2 hours at best to rush out those "creative" videos. Is it a big deal that management told her that they were NG? sorry if I am covering too many topics at once

>> No.4920408

>>4919724
I would like to think this way. But with what she said about collabing with males during that tamaki and how much she likes money. im pretty sure she never did because she didn't want to make less. which makes sense but is still scummy imo

>> No.4920454

>>4919612
Coco is a greedy numberfag, she won't dare to risk losing even a single superchatting gachikoi, especially when there is nothing to leech from.

>> No.4920460

>>4920023
Haato spending 2 hours for her videos is mostly because she sources content from her fans and has one of the most codependent relationships between the fans and a vtuber. She got annoyed with management because she wants to promote her fans' content in creative ways but they won't let her. She also just doesn't enjoy the current atmosphere of Hololive, back when she joined there was a lot more emphasis on doing your own thing and catering your content how you want but these days they're all pressured to play the same games and collab all the time, when she doesn't like gaming and prefers doing her own streams.

For Coco it's impossible to say what kinda content she wanted to do, but given that Marine and Pekora and even Mori's project ideas all got rejected it probably doesn't take much for management to block something. Like Pekora probably wanted something more elaborate for her costume reveal, maybe some kinda viral content like a fake terrorist attack in minecraft or whatever to setup for officer oozora catching her and putting her in jail, but management blocked her because it would be seen as insensitive to victims of terrorism or some shit maybe. That's just my rrat and probably nothing close to the real idea, but even something that innocuous could get shut down if management think it might bring controversy.

>> No.4920564

>>4920023
asacoco was great but also needed a lot of work.
Coco herself said the best "there will be people that will try to take holilive down for the samllest thing". We saw it with the BL thing.
i dont know what kaichou had planned but it is different rushing out a a video in 2 hrs than go on a sleepless night to make a 30min sketch just for people to use it against the company.
At the same time as more permissions came coco taste in games remained the same, ark, yakuza, some kusoge and horro game here and there. Most girls moved onto minecraft and while she enjoys the collabs it isnt her favorite thing. Coco's forte was always coll abs, but i feel she realized that her individual streams were lacking hence she not knowing what to stream anymore. As the hololive got bigger the girls also got more busy, even with some meme reviews being without a guest.
i dont think any fan cared but i do think coco found herself in a wall.

>> No.4920664

>>4920460
>She also just doesn't enjoy the current atmosphere of Hololive, back when she joined there was a lot more emphasis on doing your own thing and catering your content how you want but these days they're all pressured to play the same games and collab all the time, when she doesn't like gaming and prefers doing her own streams.
This is the biggest thing. The culture became corporate and homogenized. People wasting time crafting schizo theories but the truuth isn't that difficult to see.

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>>4915283
You are irrelevant zhang.

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>>4918336
A burger flipper like you won’t understand

>> No.4921061

>>4920664
Anon, there were always only 3 people who ever had reputation for doing something outlandish: Coco, Haachama, and, to lesser extent, Matsuri (thanks, l*ger). I don't understand how it is becoming more corporate and homogenized when they were always doing the same things everyone else was doing, and real diversity was always coming from girls' personal approach.

>> No.4921087

>>4918025
Coco dropped the bombshell that she's creating her own agency. It's an even bigger holohouse or a real estate agency of sorts, at least according to her.

>> No.4921102

>>4920664
This is the infuriating thing.
Entertainment companies care way too much about the big money from companies and have no fan loyalty. Once they are big enough to get deals with companies they just need to adhere to not make any negative PR.
Thus they create new rules that forbid creating content that is too adult or controversial.
The old fans will leave and be replaced by new fans, the old Hololive Talents who cannot follow suit will be replaced by newer Talents that will adhere to these rules.
It all will become more artificial from here on out, content will become more mundane.

>> No.4921107

Why couldn't she just say all of this in the first stream?

>> No.4921173

>>4921107
Because NDA, even for the members she skirted it a ton.

>>4917757
https://pastebin.com/kCEqHtNJ

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>>4915283
Management is trying to squeeze every cent they can out of her before they drop the ax

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Wow, vtubers are whores who are paid to extract wealth from men with nothing better to do? Who could've foreseen this?

>> No.4921462

>>4920408
If she liked money that much, she'd likely just stay in Hololive where it's financially secure and make easy money for the same content. What she's doing now is much more of a risk.

>> No.4921487

>>4921087
Really? The closest to it was probably this
>Comment: Go to Nori-pro. / Coco: Oi!
>Coco: I don't think I'll ever be affiliated to any other agencies.
>Coco: Even if I do, it'd be Hololive 500 years later.
>Coco: I might have become the god of the new world by then.
>Coco: I know there are ppl wondering if I might go somewhere else, but nope, no chance. I'm, uh, not a woman who would work under anyone else. Hah!
And that is really a stretch.

>> No.4921550

>>4921487
Sounds more like she's going indie than anything else

>> No.4921567

>>4920564
>>4920460
do you agree the reasons for haato to stop streaming and coco to leave aren't as deep or conspiratory?

>> No.4921601

>>4921567
There's no conspiracy, it's fairly transparent they just disagree with Hololive's current seiso direction they're trying to move towards. For once "creative differences" isn't just bullshit corporate-speak, it's actually true.

>> No.4921643

>>4921601
Yeah. It calms me you know? Coco was emotional and stuff when she did the announcement, but it is easy to understand why it sounded so tragic even though the reasons are not.
Keep doing your thing reddit dragon

>> No.4921649

>>4921381
So they are real idols then. Since you just described an idol.

>> No.4921654

>>4921487
She specifically mentioned a bigger holohouse or real estate company. Coco's going the same route as tamaki.

Kiryu Coco Snack House is coming.

>> No.4921688

>>4921487
yeah right. Coco won't work under anyone else and definitely not her friend. But she loves working with other people, has a background in marketing and she's an expert in vtubing.
Even if she's weird about content policing other people, which she might be. There's always the VOMs model to follow.

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>>4918575
I don't think Coco hasb't considered the importance of collabs. Without them json will not be the same as coco. That's really what Hololive is really all about. The community between the vtubers. It is one big family that coco is leaving.

>> No.4921873

>>4921061
Haachama cooking was great and really entertaining, it was a lite version of Filthy Frank’s “cooking” videos. But, that’s just it, it’s not seiso. Hololive will make people lose interest if they keep making the same content over and over.

>> No.4921904

>>4921694
I never thought of her as a person who thrives in collabs. Of course, she had many guests in asacoco ad segments and meme reviews, but outside of that, she never really had good or regular collabs. Also, 62 minutes.

>> No.4921926

>>4921694
There's nothing stopping her from making a new vtuber news show like Asacoco and collabing with Hololive talents once in a while while also being free to collab with non-Holo vtubers too.
She obviously won't do that, but she can.

>> No.4922004

>>4920023
>What else do you think asacoco had that management said it was too much?
I'd have to say collaborations. It took entirely too long for her to collab with someone like Cali and we all know the reasons why.

>> No.4922062

>>4921873
I doubt there was any problem with haachama cooking or viewers contests. I think the problem was with her R-18 reviews and schizo arc when she went self-harm and suicide path.

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>>4921649
Did I ever suggest that Idols were not whores, or for that matter that vtubers are not idols?

>> No.4922078

>>4921643
This doesn't calm me at all. I mean I'm not raging and blaming everything on the CCP again, but it kind of confirms that they are going all in on this safe "seiso" idol route.

>> No.4922096

>>4921873
If you want a vision of the future, picture three dozen identically bland, characterless girls playing mobile horse pussy, forever.

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>>4917069

>> No.4922113

>>4922062
Yeah she made ramen that could have killed her if she ate it. Too much food coloring or something.

We haven't had a single Haachama Cooking since then though, correct me if i'm wrong.

>> No.4922134

>>4921654
Yeah by all her pronouncements it might seem that she might create another V-tuber company, either going the Tamaki route of independent group or under the umbrella of Cover like the current Kizuna Ai situation.

>> No.4922138

>>4922062
She just had an R18 feet review stream where she lusted after a female fan that she was unsure if she was underage or not.
I'm really not sure how Haato gets away with the shit she does in her sunday streams while Coco gets completely shit on by management. Maybe because of gen 1 clout, or maybe her manager is just really nice to her and she can retain her independence as long as she doesn't try to collab and get other people's managers involved.

>> No.4922166

>>4922096
I'll take that over another APEX stream for the 200th time

>> No.4922178

>>4919872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtPgSnCkcEU

>> No.4922273

>>4922096
Sorry, that's all Roboco is programmed for...

>> No.4922340

>>4922113
We had a revenge stream where she made it again. It was, let's say, less bad.

>> No.4922350

>>4921487
>>4921550
I'm wary of this, Coco has to prove that she wasn't a lightning in the bottle case, she needs to be able to transfer her popularity over to her roommate or whatever she ends up doing and even though she's a great talent and behind the scenes person, I think what she should do is hire a few people to handle the more mundane bureaucratic stuff and focus on being the frontwoman.

>> No.4922439

>>4922350
She says she got too big. She doesn't want her roomate to blow up.

>> No.4922451

>>4922096
Yeah, because Pekor, Rushia and Flare are already exactly the same (not).
Won't happen in Hololive, because most girls actually have personalities that you can't wash away even if you mandate them to play the same game for the same amount of time.

>> No.4922585

>>4922350
>>4922439
Yeah, too late. She gained like 150k subs in one day after announcement, I would expect her to have something like 750k in July.

>> No.4922595

>>4922138
I thought she was just confused if they were a guy or not. She never mentioned anything to THAT extent.

>> No.4922636

>>4922451
They are trying. Slowly their uniqueness will be worn away as the demands to be investor friendly and promotional entanglements pile up.

>> No.4922670

>>4922636
That's just doomposting.

>> No.4922696

>>4922595
she joked about getting arrested, maybe she was talking about youtube, my japanese is poor.

>> No.4922703

>>4922138
Shit, how did I miss it.

>> No.4922815

>>4922696
Mine isn't any good either, but the LiveTL definitely didn't mention anything about getting arrested. She even started calling them a dude when she went back to it at the end.

>> No.4922852

>>4922096
This. Purityfags and gatekeepingfags are killing of their everyone's oshis. Idol shits never work on streaming. Hololive was shit when all they did are fake anime idol role play shitty streaming. Now you see EOP community gives more and more attention to other English vtubers, while holoEN getting boring if not recent serveral restriction lifted. You toxic minority really makes Cover believe idol shit would work, huh. If the trend continues, more members like haato, choco, mori, kiara, fubuki and such will go be gone and then you can enjoy your boring seiso shit

>> No.4923192

>>4922852
Mostly I am hoping that Coco was really aiming to bifurcate the Hololive brand in her bid for graduation. Let Yagoo keep his AKB48, let us see if it will flourish.

>> No.4923408

>>4921487
>god of the new world by then.
FC2!FC2!

>> No.4923504

>>4919344
You guys should really watch the members only stream instead of hearsay or looking at 10 lines of translations for a 2 hour stream
Her phrasing and intonation, the fact that she was crying for a good amount of the stream make it seem much more likely that she was driven to a corner before deciding to leave. She even clearly says that she doesn't want to leave. Also voiced her biggest regret saying if only that bugman incident didn't happen. That was when hololive as a whole started cracking down to make sure everyone's content was squeaky clean and soulless. Especially Coco who was pretty much thrown into a quarantine ward.

>> No.4923646

>>4919584
Wait there's a thing with Ame´s rig? She doesn't even have the same one as Anya.

>> No.4923649

>>4922138
>get away with it
lmao dude haato has been at war with cover for ages. If they weren't under such scrutiny they'd fire her. She announces projects without asking permission at all, then she lies about the content to get approval, then afterwards she acts like nothing happened.
They've suspended her, excluded her from events, she's collab banned by EN and most of the rest of the hololive managers. It's even worse than Coco because apart from the few hearts and souls of hololive the other holos don't seem to side with her at all.

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>>4923504
Zhangs were bad, but not detrimental. You are obviously reaching to create new narratives to blame cover, changs, and illusive changs at cover, because Coco just discredited your previous one.

>> No.4923922

>>4923649
>She announces projects without asking permission at all, then she lies about the content to get approval, then afterwards she acts like nothing happened
If that's the scenario for Haato, then I can understand why the others are more hesitant to show support, especially given the norms in Japan.

>> No.4924004

>>4922852
Fuck off faggot

>> No.4924168

>>4924004
Idolfags will be the end of Hololive. Livestreaming doesn't mix well with that culture.

>> No.4924687

>>4922852
>>4924168
Please explain what you mean by idol culture, what rules will be enforced by following that culture, and what those rules would make Haato, Choco, Mori, Kiara and FBK leave.
Because what your saying is vague as hell.

>> No.4924992

>>4924168
A lot of idols stream, including AKB48; you can check for yourself on Showroom. The difference is that idols mainly do it to promote themselves where as a lot of the holos are actual streamers.

>> No.4925100

>>4924004
Not him, but he's right. These girls are steamers, not idols. Say what you want about Vshojo, but watching them after seeing nothing but Hololive was a huge breath of fresh air, Hololive feels very constricted in comparison. All of the best moments in Hololive happen when something goes awry and girls show their true selves, getting angry or silly and being themselves. When Fubuki's compulsive gambling habits drive her through all kinds of cope after losing a ton of cash, when Noel completely loses her cool and forgets her kind persona entirely, or when Kiara promised that she would slaughter Mario's entire family. Meanwhile, Sora could never be a very fun streamer, because she's a perfect idol. So Yagoo can go get fucked with his idol dream. People want entertainers, not idols.

>> No.4925684

>>4923922
It's just a bullshit rrat from a retard, don't believe anything you read here without a source included.

>> No.4925766

>>4923824
Read between the lines. She's saying no one is at fault because everyone is doing what they reasonably think is best for the series of events that lead to the current situation. Cover has been on high alert from the Taiwan incident and is staying on it since the anti hate is still alive and well even half a year later. It's obvious Coco wants to produce content in the same capacity as before, but can't since she's restricted.
Also Taishi is a very good live tler, but there's only so much a single person can reasonably output in realtime, so there's nuance that's missing sometimes

>> No.4926162

>>4924687
Because the rules themselves are vague as hell. But every time if a content creator comes up with some funny ideas, but then she has to ask for managers "if there is any yab", instead of knowing in advance a clear line of rules or knowing the content will definitely be fine. This restriction culture came from a mixture of idol culture, Japanese corps culture, gatekeeper culture and so on. For example, not until very recent could EN collab outside of Hololive. It's an atmosphere of discouragement. Likewise, as a former months teamate, Amelia has gotten more "seiso" and boring, restraining her gamer identity which does not sound well under Japanese culture (if you check up JP comments of the translated clips you know what I'm talking). With the expansion of overall streamer culture and anime culture, collabing with IRL youtubers or streamers are inevitable if you don't want to be isolated, let alone restricting it and encouraging staying in hololive bubble. Let's be honest, at first holoEN is the face of English vtubers, but know the influence has greatly shrunk.

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>>4915502
>a Jewngian Complex.

>> No.4926824

"read between the lines" is code for "please believe my story"

>> No.4927485

>>4923922
I know right, those japanese and their company policy following ways.

>>4925684
>source
??? did you seriously think Haato was getting in trouble because she had permission? holy shit this place

>> No.4927700

>>4918025
i think you talking about marine boy,

also nene also talks about shaving her pubes regularly and her husband collection but you know she gets away with it so it doesn't count

orange dragon bad

>> No.4927773

>>4919724
they aren't banned from collabing with the holos,
literally sora collabs with guys more than anyone else in hololive and shes supposedly the most seiso,

noel even admits they don't collab because themselves don't want to lose half of their super chat revenue

>> No.4927774

>>4917102
>They hate Jews because they share the same characteristics with them.
The burgers love their jews so much that they willingly send them to die for them.

>> No.4927842

>>4922098
The lack of transparency shows that cover really was fucking over Coco.

>> No.4927991

>>4919872
>>4920454
touch grass faggot

>> No.4928104

>>4927773
I'm pretty sure Noel also doesn't want to get some male vtubers trying to slide into her dms after stream. She knows all too well that even when she doesn't interact with them, there are people making rrats they heard her nonexistent boyfriend during the stream.

>> No.4928162

>>4928104
She also doesn't need to lose part of her roommate's audience too...

>> No.4928163

>>4919902
exactly and so many schizos don't realize that,
her asacoco won the algorithm.
the scatman video and miko saying the nword literally came after clippers took interest in coco, she was literally the one who started the clippers, that got hololive popular, the entire reason why clippers flocked the hololive or them getting clips in the first place, nijisanji almost has no clips and she was the reason hololive got so many clipers

>> No.4929313

>>4922113
She did another 2 cooking, the revenge noodles and sushi with worms (which was combined with lore) so yeah, you were wrong

>> No.4929408

>>4921173
do you have any new links for that pastebin? it was already deleted when I checked it

>> No.4929449

>>4915502
Impossible, the Jews fear the samurai

>> No.4929890

>>4921694
This rat gets it. I have literally never watched a single coco video that wasn't a collab. Even when I'm watching a solo performance by my oshi they are still make references to the other holomems.

>> No.4930091

>>4918209
You know nothing will change the fact that chinks spammed her chat every day until she had a breakdown on stream

>> No.4930117

>>4929408
https://hatebin.com/rqrtcvilsr

>> No.4930208

>>4923649
If that's true, then god bless her. If only all the other girls would follow suit, relentlessly and without mercy, this shitty world could improve a tiny bit.

>> No.4930340

>>4929890
The only non-collab streams of any of the members that I've watched, ever, were a few Pekora minecraft streams and Marine's subnautica run, and that's having been subbed to all of holo for two years now. I mostly just watch clips because solo streams are often kinda stale.
Collabs are the sweet spot that makes a stream worth watching.

>> No.4930461

>>4923504
why do people think you need to watch said stream to get that exact feeling out of this text? It's obvioust to anyone who's not a chink .

>> No.4930792

>>4930117
thanks

>> No.4930838

>>4930091
the breakdown happened b/c someone on management modded some of the chinks and they then banned the regulars and others

>> No.4931274

>>4930117
I just finished reading the TLs, guess that can Quell some of the rats.

>> No.4931283

I really believe in the coming months, after the graduation, we will see some wheels start to turn. Maybe a new branch or something headed by "K-chan" will come of it.
Probably a cope and dream but I like to dream personally. I think it keeps us human.

>> No.4931427

>>4931283
Well she did say she has no interest in working for anyone else, but given that her primary complaint was butting heads with management I can't imagine she'd want to switch over to the management position. Besides if they were gonna do that there'd be no need for the secrecy, they could just be open and say she's graduating to manage her own branch or something.

>> No.4932003

>>4931283
Kiryu Coco is done after her graduation.
No relationship to Cover. Roommate may actually just start her own agency and maybe in the future recruit some of the disgruntled Holo members and other VTubers that suit her criteria.

>> No.4932077

>>4932003
Anon I know that is a cope but I want to believe too

>> No.4932375

>>4932077
Huh? I don’t really care much about her. It’s just viewing this whole situation and how limited Kiryu Coco was after the “T” word incident. I was expecting her to quit shortly after that to get the bugs off her and the other Holo members.
As for who could jump ship, probably Watame after she gets the gold plate. Others, depends how unhappy they are with the current direction Cover is going.

>> No.4932517

>>4918025

this is the most true post and its extremely noticeable if you have been watching coco since her debut, hell not even coco, but every other holo, I have even since 2018.

its plain as day, but 2021 cover is completely different from how they where years ago, you can blame:

- The chink incident (made them much more controlling over content)
- The Mio permissions incident (Korone will never go back to her kusoge made by a literal who company 10 hour streams)
- The insane increase in popularity in the west
- Cover never retracting on "we are an idol agency" statement, and instead forcing it even more on some of them, having even kinds like matsuri deleting past streams with males or subaru now pretending maimoto does not exist beside the random birthday aisatsu, rare exceptions are FBK, hell they hanged with nijis so much in the past but they they pretend they dont exist.
- Antis taking any moment of weakness to rabidly attack gen 5 resulting in aloe retiring, or just goddamn look at polka who caught depression and was rabidly attacked for doing a janitor joke, who did like 100% different content from what she did in the past, she literally could have been coco 2.0 if she took out her power limiters even to this day.

I like hololive but the company is so goddamn different to how lax it used to be in the past, they are just too damn big now, like holy shit looking at old 3D debuts with them in bikinis or mel acting slutty with coco are things that are never coming back, its like at some point coco realised she was just there for the money and not for the enjoyment anymore.

>> No.4932657

>>4918329
>we
You speak for none but yourself faggot
P.S. I hate Vshitjo as well

>> No.4933613

>>4932517
Can't help but completely agree. Can't claim to have been an avid fan or anything since I was and still mostly am an eop, but all the stuff I used to watch was vastly different than it is today. For the most part I still really enjoy the streams, but what hooked me in the first place was that despite the kayfabe they were all more genuine than most actual idols, most of the time. As time goes on we're approaching levels of restriction/sanitation/homogenization that turned me off of idols in the first place. Probably won't be more than another couple years before I just call it and move on, at this rate.

>> No.4933887

>>4932517
at least matsuri still talks about Hoshikawa from time to time.

>> No.4933983

>>4932517
They're big enough but yet not big enough at the same time. Big enough to catch the attention of every dramanigger out to earn a quick buck through controversies, but not big and established enough to be able to ignore such things.

>> No.4934029

>>4933613
This is the big gulf between the JP audience and the EN one I think. At least speaking for myself personally, I like vtubers as comedians and relatable gamers, I have zero interest in "seiso" and "idol" culture, but at the same time I also don't really want them to do nothing but sex jokes, I just like treating them as fun people to hang out and watch, whether its because they're cute or funny.
It's why I tend to avoid the ones that are clearly designed to be idol wankfest.

>> No.4934063

>>4934029
>It's why I tend to avoid the ones that are clearly designed to be wankfest.
Based

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>>4915502

>> No.4934286

>>4933613
I agree, I remember when holos used to tout how great they had it because management was so hands off with their streams. Now look at them.

>> No.4934525

>>4933983
They'd have to be a juggernaut on the scale of a media empire in order ignore controversy. And even then they'll probably bend the knee.
Thanks to the power of social media, a small segment of shit-stirrers can get a big enough voice to seem like a legitimate cause. Then you have all the people dogpiling in just because they want to feel like an accomplished activist. It really puts the "cult" in cancel culture.

Hololive example: the sheer amount of hate Miko and Marine got for the BL prank incident that would otherwise be harmless banter between friends if it weren't a stream done by two Vtubers that are part of a big corporation.

Real life example: John Cena having to profusely apologize in Chinese for saying Taiwan is a country. America doesn't give a shit if he said that. Hell a lot of countries wouldn't. But because he's an actor of Fast & Furious the studio made him apologize because that franchise lives and dies by its Chinese box office performance. Now that he apologized everyone that isn't Chinese thinks he's a spineless hack.

>> No.4934618

>>4934029
Seiso is best when it’s a guideline they occasionally break for a joke. This seems to be what the JP fans prefer, and it also keeps them from rapidly degenerating into disgusting roastie whores. Moderation is the key to life, the universe, and everything

>> No.4934870

>>4917102
I see someone call her Calli, I trash the opinion. Simple as.

>> No.4934962

>>4934618
You don't have to be "seiso" to not talk about sex though. You watch your average adult male streamer and they don't talk about that shit almost ever, it's just endemic in roastie streaming because I assume most attractive women are used to talking about sex being their trump card to secure attention and affection. That's kind of the whole appeal of letting ugly loser women stream in the first place behind 2D avatars, they can, like men, have developed interests from being the rejects of society and not have spent all their time growing up focusing on getting laid and wearing makeup.

>> No.4935087

>>4934962
That’s literally what seiso is. Purity. Not being a degenerate. Idols take it up to 11, but it’s fundamentally the same thing

>> No.4935147

>>4930117
So what I got out of this is that she wants to do things HoloLive doesn't let her, she tried a lot of things before deciding to leave but couldn't find anything that made her happy. She can't get into details because the management doesn't let her tell us and she's leaving for her own sake.

>> No.4935172

>>4935087
You can be a degenerate and not talk about it in public. I dunno, sounds like we just disagree. And I would argue at least some of the people you think are pure aren't, they just don't talk about it in public.

>> No.4935240

>>4930461
There were some posts that were downplaying how stifling the "creative differences" that caused Coco to quit are. I'm not saying it's malicious harassment like Narukami's rrat, but management's restrictions on her were far worse than any other member and pretty much limited her to just game streams, zatsudans, or marshmallows. It's a wonder how she even managed to negotiate doing reddit shitpost streams

>> No.4935693

>>4935172
Obviously. You think idols maintain seiso even at home? They shid and fard like everyone else. It’s performance art

>> No.4935750

>>4921567
Haato has something Coco doesn’t have: seniority. Her suddenly quitting would probably damage morale to later generations even if they don’t actively collab with her.

>> No.4936159

>>4935240
The reddit shitposts probably got by management since any yab could be blamed on redditors while the girls were just bystanders commenting on it.

Stuff like Haato's coexist arc can't use that excuse so it gets sidelined for review by Cover and restricted. Same for Kanata's planned idol otaku streams where fans outside hololive might attack her over the opinions expressed. (similar to the Marine/Miko BL incident) Or several plans for greater fan interaction that could generate awkward situations so management shuts them down.

>> No.4936367

>>4917379
i mean, didn't the funny moustache man himself say that americans are "half judaized and the other half negrofied"?

>> No.4936460

>>4936159
With a hundred thousand viewers, the chance of a nutjob gets pretty high, and it only takes a handful of nutjobs to start a fire on the internet

>> No.4936858

>>4928163
Clippers also hunt those not-seiso moments to keep them relevant in the algo-space.
Now, if Cover wants to scrub content clean, there's nothing to clip
There can't be Egg without Chicken, and vice-versa

>>4932077
It's not actually too far fetched idea, obviously she said "no" to the idea on stream, "yes" would have been breach of contract obviously
But she also knows it's a lot of work for not a lot of payoff, but she still might do it to help others if the time comes

>> No.4937109

>>4919344
>Cover promises to protect the talents' smiles
>only way they can smile is by quitting
Cover should be destroyed.

>> No.4937305

>>4936858
Only way the payoff of starting a new agency would be worth it is if she could use her USDA citizenship to incorporate there and avoid having to negotiate streaming rights for every damn game.

>> No.4937409

One of you archive that stream and tell others to not join Coco's membership. you dont know if she's getting a cut of that money now that she's quitting.

>> No.4937452

Why the fuck is the subreddit full of sorrow posting like she fucking died? Jesus everyone and their mother knows of her roommates account and she already said she's sticking with Kanata until they move out together, on top of her already landing a new job as a vtuber

Why the fuck are plebbit such over-invested babies

>> No.4937605

>>4937452
Horse Blinkers, someone gotta pull the cart you know

>> No.4937606

>>4937452
>on top of her already landing a new job as a vtuber
Where did you learn of this?

>> No.4937661

>>4937606
Her stating she's gonna be a super star in another world
Also her insanely popular overnight growth on the roomie acct

>> No.4937689

>>4937452
Because the subreddit is run by cover, dongus. Anything other than what they want to be posted gets nuked.

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>Her roommates account got 240k of Coco's
>the migration has begun
Fuck Zhangs and fuck Covers impotence

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>>4937452
I'm pissed that Usaken is losing a member

>> No.4938097

>>4918487
Hololive managers would faint if they saw some of nijisanji's 3D streams.

>> No.4938473

I just treat /vt/ and /pw/ as one and the same.
>Big-name wrestler released from WWE over creative differences, being stuck on RAW
>Majority speculating for a jump to AEW
It's all contracts, gimmicks and kayfabe.

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>>4938473

>> No.4938582

>>4925766
Maybe it is better to use Occam's razor and don't multiply entities without necessity, especially don't go full schizo.
Hololive wants to go full idol, Coco doesn't want to (remember, she originally applied for management, not talent), Coco feels constrained because of the difference, Coco leaves on good terms (they even agreed to keep her channel and twitter intact). That's it.

>> No.4938736

>>4922670
This is Cope. It’s the fate of any niche entertainment product that starts to gain an audience

>> No.4939386

>>4938736
Nah, it's your /v/tard mentality speaking. You can post that dumb pic "how normies ruin hobbies", I can post a copypasta that disproves it, and it will go nowhere.

>> No.4939628

>>4922670
Not really? It all depends on Cover actually understanding what made them popular, or being the usual out-of-touch Japanese boomers. Because it sure as shit wasn't Sora being the perfect seiso idol, it was Matsuri talking about her bandaid bras, Miko saying nigga, and Haachama throwing up live on camera. And from what we're seeing so far, Cover wants to think it was the former. That means more censorship, more restrictions, and less interesting streams. At least ENs like Ame will fight tooth and nail for their freedom (being a former Twitch streamer, she understands streaming better than the entire JP branch put together), but the JP branch will get safer and safer, which would be a death sentence for them.

>> No.4939892

>>4939628
Not really. All those clips (do you watch streams btw?) got them clicks, and at their current scale they don't have to bait for them. People stayed for the girls' personalities, and they hasn't changed. Rushia, Miko, Pekora, Fubuki, Matuli - they all have the same feeling to them they had in 2019. They just toned down their degeneracy, which is understandable with their scale. Coco doesn't want to give up on degeneracy (or has nothing else going for her, depending on who you ask), gets bored, and so she leaves.

>> No.4940281

>>4939892
People stay for personalities, but that's because we have personalities. I'm afraid that someone like Coco, Haachama, or even Ame would never be hired by nu-Cover.
As long as they don't forget their roots, they will be fine.

>> No.4940665

Cover doesn’t seen to understand why Hololive got popular in the first place. Right now they’re at the top of the food chain, but they seem more interested in clinging to that spot even if it means making their content less innovative. They might think it’s the safer bet but upd8 had a similar position and strategy, and nobody remembers them now. Nowadays, people in the know understand that they wasted the talent of people like Korone and Polka’s roommates by forcing them to be as generic as possible. Damn, this whole mess reminds me a lot of Nobuhime’s graduation, Of course Hololive has a large collections of characters with strong personalities but I don’t feel so confident in their ability to do so with the next generations.

>> No.4941363

>>4940281
EN2 is on its way, they are nu-Cover hires, so we will see then.

>> No.4941402

>>4922098
>"Uh, is there actually anything I CAN say?"
with just that sentence there's no need for any explanation

>> No.4941410

so this is gold digging whore that you faggots support? pathetic.

>> No.4943830

>>4922098
Creative differences?

>> No.4943907

>>4918732
Why not though

>> No.4944045

>>4922138
Does Nijisanji also have this kind of "gens separated by managers" thing? Seems like a shitty way to stimulate creativity and original ideas if they have to be run by a manager of another gen first...

>> No.4944238

>>4943830
Please andastando, can't say anything that suggests the company is in any way at fault

>> No.4944454

it's just amazing how many people will defend a corporation that doesn't give a shit about any of their talents
the holocaust happened because yagoo was too cheap to pay for more than one license, and as a result fucked over most of hololive

aloe happened because they didn't give a shit, period
coco happened because they wanted to get rid of her

their 2D and 3D are behind pretty much every other company, despite being the biggest vtuber agency worldwide
astounding, really.

>> No.4944486

>>4927700
You dont even watch hololive to not know this

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>>4934029
>>4933613
>>4932517
>>4919902
>>4928163
>>4936858
Cover is going to ruin Hololive, I finally understand now

In an attempt to go seiso they will lose everything that drew us to them in the first place.

>> No.4944768

Coco mentioned on stream her mates knew since March

How does this fit in our timeline?

>> No.4945030

>>4915283
Are you guys seriously this salty about 50 ARS?

>> No.4945132

>>4945030
I wonder what you buy in the US with that, here 10ARS is the price of an egg

>> No.4945186

>>4944768
Lines up with the date Shion killed herself and was replaced with the voice-double.

>> No.4945231

>>4918732
Please tell me where the autism about "though" came from, I've seen spergs legitimately mind-broken over it.

>> No.4945454

>>4944768
so that means coco didnt know any details about chink bugs and whats going on there. you cant win without knowing your enemy but she didnt even know who were attacking her and why. japan doesnt have cancel culture, "enjou" drama is not a cancel culture, so she didnt understand the nature of angry mobs and its outrage mechanism. its a shame that it means she was self-gaslighted by her own ignorant and early decision. although its all covers fault. they fucking suck at modern non japanese internet culture in general and treating of chink bugs.

>> No.4945487

>>4918025
>>4918487
>>4918575
>>4922078
>Coco's obsession with the overdone "Yagoo's dream is dead" meme was her publicly venting at management

>> No.4945859

>>4930117
Damn this destroys all the rrats. It's simply because she feels restricted by what she is allowed to do by management, which was the obvious answer anyway.

>> No.4946019

she's going to milk this final period the hardest she can and that's the RIGHT move

>> No.4946585

>>4946019
>she's going to give Cover even bigger cuts and that's the RIGHT move
alright then

>> No.4947050

>>4946585
it doesn't matter anymore, the character is theirs, she could just go away more quietly but that's a cut that she wouldn't receive, you better use the momentum and earn something than letting it waste, let Cover waste their part anyway, you don't give a fuck about that

>> No.4947871

>>4927700
>regularly
>you saw one clip about it
My nene is not coco, quit it

>> No.4947998

>>4918025
How can this be true when marine straight up talks about masturbation, and hachamma had porn scene animations? Covers weirdly selective

>> No.4948133

>>4947998
They are just too cautious of their talents. At least Niji and VOMS gets more creative freedom even though they are less popular than hololive.

>> No.4948178

>>4947998
They do it tastefully, Japanese way, because they are Japanese. Coco goes full redneck Karen, because she grew up in Georgia, USA.

>> No.4948219

>>4918025
I love how this board goes from hating VShojo for being low effort whores (which they are) to "oh no how can they restrict Coco from doing what we hate western vtubers for doing" (granted, she was doing it more successfully when she did it)

>> No.4948404

>>4948219
I never liked her for that, she was the only Holo I've unsubscribed from. When chinks attacked, I gave in to my saviour complex and sided with her. Now I'm coming back to my senses.

>> No.4951214

>>4938473
Okay mark

>> No.4951690

>>4915283
she should bait my dick into her butthole

>> No.4952187
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>>4937452
I want them to announce that she'll marry kanata

>> No.4952495

>Fucking gold hoarding dragon

...Aren't dragons supposed to be hoarders in the first place?

>> No.4958191
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>>4915283
insectchama...

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>Please tell me where the autism about "though" came from, I've seen spergs legitimately mind-broken over it.

>> No.4959780

>>4915283
>she's said multiple times to remember to deactivate membership because hololive and youtube will not deactivate them when she leaves the company
>somehow she's the greedy one
She's trying to protect your state food stamps or whatever the fuck communist currency you use in west taiwan.

>> No.4960424

>>4959780
>reminds you to deactivate existing membership
>you ignore it, because you never had membership
>next day baits you into membership
>doesn't remind you to deactivate
Only thing she's trying to protect is her golden parachute, my dear Shlomo.

>> No.4961140

>>4958969
how many boards can one mexican infest

>> No.4961537

>>4946585
Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

>> No.4962041

>>4915283
Why are you like this?

>> No.4962334

>>4948219
it's unironically worse when Vshojo does it

>> No.4962931

>>4917102
Fuck you, I reject the judification and negrification of my people. Many are degenerates, but not all of us. And what's done can be undone.

>> No.4963140

>>4940665
>upd8
literally who

>> No.4963181

>>4962931
>And what's done can be undone.
Except it can't. That's what makes it so sad, those migrants are never going home. This is also what makes it so imperative that countries like Japan never fall for the same ruse. All it takes is one mistake to forever be stuck with the burden, in perpetuity.

>> No.4963599

>>4922273
besides footjobs, right?

>> No.4964876

>>4915502
Imagine that. The one (1) American in the company before the EN branch and she quits because she can't talk nonstop about sex like a filthy rotten vshart and then uses her last moments to jew her subs out of their precious shekels.
Let's stop virtue signalling about being sad about her graduation. Coco fucking sucks. Good riddance, see you in vshojo in 2 weeks you vile whore.

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>>4963181
I wish you weren't right, but you're right, anon.
It's like a car with a broken axel, blown transmission, engine that shuts off randomly, a/c that doesn't work etc. Maybe that was your car since high school. You love that car. But it's beyond repair.

>> No.4964981

>>4964876
All of the JP girls are perverts like her, some are even active pornstars, but somehow Coco's the only vile whore. Ok, buddy. Ok.

>> No.4965193

>>4964981
I'm well aware of who you're talking about, and I don't support them in any way. The difference is that they don't bring that behavior to the streams.
Coco thought it was funny to ruin the company's 'idol' image. That's why she was so excited to make Sora, the de facto face of the brand, say "motherfucker" for example. Everything she did was directly to fuck with Cover and she was actively sabotaging their overall image. Again, good riddance.

>> No.4965251

>>4965193
You will never be Japanese. No matter what you do, they will never accept you. Grafting idol culture onto your being will not make you any less of an EOP. Repent.

>> No.4965254

>>4965193
Coco had to be sacrificed so that the rest of the talents could have careers in the long run.

>> No.4965465

>>4965251
This is the most EOP post you could ever make. Whores don't belong in Hololive. Your stereotyping anyone who doesn't want to listen to 30-40 year old bitches talk about their vaginal odors and period blood as trying to be Japanese is a pathetic cope because you can't handle anyone that challenges your shitty little cumbrained takes that literally not one single person on earth has asked to hear.
Why don't you go jerk off to that one vshart's charturbate you disgusting ledditor neckbeard fucking pathetic virgin loser? When was the last time a girl positively acknowledged you? I bet it hasn't been since high school, if even then. You are a fucking loser. You should kill yourself, you fucking worthless waste of a sperm sample. You don't deserve to live, nobody values your life and nobody would cry about your death. You know that, so get it over with and stop clogging up the board with your inane faggotry.
I mean it from the bottom of my heart. This isn't some "kys faggot" post. You should actually kill yourself, and livestream it too, you stupid fucking unlovable bitch. Your parents probably hate you, you're probably single, you probably got beat up in school. You have nothing worth living for. In the words of your reddit dragon whore: Kill yourself, immediately.

>> No.4965550

>>4965465
Are you really pulling the "lol touch grass" card when you're begging for seiso idol culture? The cognitive dissonance is bigger than your gut.

>> No.4965631

>>4965550
No, I didn't say "touch grass" at all you illiterate retard. If anything, you should be at least a few inches off the grass, swinging from a tree.

>> No.4966382

>>4917417
>failed to follow up with proper 'what's jew?' pun
Your line needs to be gassed now.

>> No.4966614

>>4923646
Schitzo is schitzo, move along now.

>> No.4966881

>>4965631
--->>>4965550

>> No.4967436

>>4952495
Careful, Zhang's gonna sic Winnie on you.

>> No.4967489

>>4963140
The company behind Kizuna Ai, newfag.

>> No.4967604

>>4964876
Holy Halal, SEAnigger - what's your ideal vtuber?

>> No.4967712

>>4967604
Probably Gigguk

>> No.4969028

>>4965631
Here we have it folks, the boy with a lame argument and an even lamer comeback. Never thought I would see two of those from one person today. Show me where the orange dragon hurt you.

>> No.4975209

>>4969028
If someone telling you to kill yourself on 4chan is a new experience for you, you need to lurk moar or GTFO

>> No.4975315

>>4975209
It's not that it's new, it's that it's boring and it's being mean just for being mean.
I barely even hear something creative when it comes to insults.

>> No.4975387

>>4943830
But it literally it, plus chinks.

>> No.4975464

>>4915283
eh, i'd do the same. Why not let people throw money into your bank account right?

>> No.4975495

>>4915283
I think you meant to say ‘based’, she is the best.

>> No.4975970

>>4975315
Trolling is a art!

>> No.4976044

>>4917102
Americans are Jew's burgercattle.

>> No.4976109

>>4976044
Why are chinks obsessed with Jews? Do they think that being antisemetic is going to bring people to their side?

>> No.4977181

>>4934870
Calli calls herself Calli

>> No.4977215

>>4977181
exactly

>> No.4977372

>>4961140
>Muttoids shifting blame again
wew

>> No.4977418

>>4915502
good thing people with gold accounts on 4chan got the membership translation thread to know it really was more of the same "can't tell you", just some funny implications.

>> No.4980223

>>4964876
>>4965193
Unironically based.

>> No.4981720

>>4915283
ITS ALL ABOUT THE FANS BROS. VTUBERS LOVE!
>>4915502
She's a youtuber/streamer doing youtuber/streamer things.

>> No.4981976

>>4977372
No but for once it's literally a single mexican

>> No.4982684

>>4934962
>the whole appeal of letting ugly loser women stream in the first place behind 2D avatars
most of the holo's roommates are really easy on the eyes.

>> No.4982740

>>4982684
They are so cute on average it can't be a coincidence which makes me wonder about cause and effect here. Are cute girls better at vtubing even though you can't see them? Or did Cover use looks as a criteria knowing they will probably be doxxed eventually?

>> No.4982928

>>4982740
To be fair, they're all massive menheras.
Honestly, I think the Holos are just good, because they've been selected because they already were good at streaming (at least the JPs). Pretty much all of them were already good entertainers, they all had plenty of experience before starting and they just got better with time.

>Are cute girls better at vtubing even though you can't see them?
I would argue that being cute inherently gives you the confidence to try being an entertainer.

>> No.4984087

>>4944045
There is one manager for every couple livers, and they rotate managers every few months.

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