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https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1130702535147188224

>> No.49134612

>>49132691
interesting

>> No.49134656

>>49132691
Wow, I feel bad for the guy.

>> No.49134777
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49134777

>>49132691
It's that guy like nijisanji's top dog?

>> No.49134868

>>49134777
This guy brings in millions for the company every concert and album, so yeah.

>> No.49134942

>>49132691
>sell $100,000 in merch
>only get $1000

>> No.49135010

>>49134868
>This guy brings in millions for the company
>for the company
Nice buzzword, faggot.

>> No.49135084

>>49134612
>>49134656
>>49134777
>literally had to dig up four year old tweets to rationalize your shit flinging
Just admit you were duped by FalseEyed into sperging out at irrelevant "news".

>> No.49135193

>>49135084
>it's old news reeeee
And?
It's still fucked up.
If they only got 1% from merch, then it's no wonder you guys licking nijisanji ass for free.

>> No.49135301

>>49135084
Sure. Maybe things change between 2019-2020 Nijisanji compared to right now.

But does you want to confirm that?

>> No.49135443

>>49135193
>admits it's old news
>BUT IT'S STILL BAD!!!
Even his tweet said to buy as much as you want. Literally no one cares. Not even you fucks. You schizos are arguing in bad faith and trying to find anything to shit on Niji, all in order to fuel your retarded corpo war bullshit.

>> No.49135580

>>49135443
You do realize that even as a joke, like
>if you hate me then go ahead and buy as much as you want, I won’t see a single yen from it
It still looks bad on Anycolor and is exploitative of the use of their talents. They haven’t changed in 4 years, and on top of that they’re seeing record profits allegedly. There’s zero excuse why the cut isn’t at least 10-25%.

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49135677

>>49135301
What point are you trying to make here.
>Maybe things change between 2019-2020 Nijisanji compared to right now.
Yeah, Kuzuha is a major star in the Vtubing world. The merch aspect is pretty much irrelevant to him.

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49135702

>>49135443
>arguing
It's not an argument in the first place.

>> No.49135723

>>49132691
Move on from this fucking "drama" already. Their pay doesn't concern you and if they were struggling it would have been known. Cipe and seethe concernfags

>> No.49135891

>>49135580
>IT WAS A JOKE!!
>IT STILL LOOKS BAD!!!
It only looks bad to retards who already hate Nijisanji and/or they slurp up dramatuber shit on a daily basis. Which you fit that category. But doesn't matter, you fucks will forget about it in a couple days if falseeyed makes a new video or some new retarded "yab" drops.

>> No.49135898

>>49134942
That isn't much given the lenght it takes for them to sale it, I make more than that in 2 weeks and I get paid 11 an hour.

>> No.49136015

>>49135193
>If they only got 1% from merch
>If
The fact you have to put if here just confirms you are arguing shit you don't even know is true. Which is honestly top tier retardation.
>>49135898
>I get paid 11 an hour.
Faggot you should be a hell of a lot more concerned with your own pay then you seemingly are over a number that may not even be true.

>> No.49136203

>>49135891
Anon, I loved NijiEN up until a point. But the company, not necessarily the talents bar Enna and Kyo, deserves the bad press it’s been getting recently and then some.
They’ve mentioned that they’ve been making record profits in their recently released Quarterly earnings reports, they’ve mentioned they plan on expanding more into EN, there’s zero excuse for Anycolor to not issue more of a percentage to their talents since they’re the ones that ultimately make their crappy merch worth purchasing to begin with. This shit is a borderline shady company at this point and it’s sad that “fans” like you are happy with the livers being treated like this.

>> No.49136219

>>49134868
only 2% man.

>> No.49136257

>>49135898
>I make more than that in 2 weeks and I get paid 11 an hour.
m8 Find a new job if you think having the salary of a vtuber selling merch is some "accomplishment".

>> No.49136303

>>49136203
Shove your faux concerning up your ass. You're not fooling anyone.

>> No.49136386

>>49136219
Still more than you make in a year.

>> No.49136438

>>49136386
That's not alot when top streamers make way more

>> No.49136468
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49136468

>>49136303
>no actual answer

>> No.49136518

>>49136303
You do realize you can enjoy the talents of a company and still have concerns about the company itself, right? Unless you’re one of the talents forced to defend the company, or you’re an Anycolor intern, there’s no reason to excuse such bad practices.
It’s not like we’re in China where you need to excuse every bad exploitation work situation. This is the free world.

>> No.49136625

>>49136386
i don't work as a top vtuber in a million dollar company, lol cope faggot, such Riku's cock more, buy his yacht.

>> No.49136685

>>49135084
the only ones duped are the nijifags that bought merch thinking it supported their livers
and you for doing all this damage control FOR FREE for a fucking corpo lmao

>> No.49136735

>>49136257
>>49136015
I was last year but currently can't change jobs due to an accident in which the head rest of my car blew up and royaly fucked me over. I'm still sticking around because my job has the perks of them not giving a fuck if I miss days or come late to work plus I got a lawsuit with the manufacturer.

>> No.49136800

>>49136518
>bad exploitation work situation
Do you honestly that livers make the merch themselves and ship them from their houses! Where else to you think the merch is coming from?! And where else does the money for the goes to!?! Use your damn head next time before concernfagging like a retard!

>> No.49136992

>>49135677
Ah yes. "He already got alot of money. He does not need more money. Its better that the company gets more money (so everyone can grow more)"

What is this, trickle-down economic?

>> No.49137118

>>49136800
Mr Anycolor intern, stop and realize for a second that without the talent building up their image to begin with, the merch is essentially worthless, generic anime character designs. In fact, that’s probably how Niji merch is viewed as in Japan if it ever ends up on actual store shelves.
It’s the connection to the talents that makes it anything worthwhile, and despite complaints about how bad and lacklustre the merch is, people buy it more because they believe it supports the talents than anything. For them to get only 2% of a cut, on merch that probably costs Anycolor nothing to produce since they could just stamp the artwork on any molds they already have, there’s no getting around that. That’s exploitation of the talents.

>> No.49137134

>>49136625
>>49136685
Say that again? Can't hear you over the crying.

>> No.49137242

>>49137118
*Farts*

>> No.49137244

>>49135193
Actually they lick Nijisanji's ass for steam gift cards.

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49137256

>>49135301
"Does you" want to learn some English?

>> No.49137376

>>49137118
They are in the store shelves. Alot of them. First Step goods, Noctyx Anniversary, etc. Nijisanji have collab with Animate so they have a special shelves.

That's why I think that almost all their merchs, except for voice packs, are company-produced and subject to same cut. That's also how AnyC have that kind of earnings.

As a sidenote, Holo also got a shelves but no decoration whatsoever. The available merchs that time is leftover from Pekora's Animate collabs goods, some BD from Calli's, Suisei's, and 3rd Fest.... and that's all. They need to step up their game

>> No.49137564

>>49135677
>The merch aspect is pretty much irrelevant to him.
tell that to your oshi (riku)

>> No.49137595

>>49137134
say what again? 2%? pay for your debut? -$5000 dollars Selen? 0% Kuzuha? stealth suspension? lol faggot Niji intern.

>> No.49137689

>>49137564
Wrong person. Maybe next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udAjJ8gXQ2o

>> No.49137766

>>49137256
Oh shit, I forgot to turn on my grammar auto-correct.

Anyway, you want to answer? Or maybe any JP-viewers want to start "correcting" people and debunking this nonsense?

>> No.49137830

>>49137134
the only crying i'm hseeingere is nijinogs and their handlers
the past 72hrs has been nothing but a stream of niji butthurt
it's hilarious

>> No.49137847

>>49137595
You sure are obsessed with Niji huh?

>> No.49137907

>>49137830
Are you having a stroke? Don't hyperventilate from all that typing.

>> No.49137980

>>49137907
give me more you's lmao
i can feel your seethe through the screen nijicuck

>> No.49138037

>>49137766
If it was nonsense, Kson wouldn't be confident enough to tweet about it.

>> No.49138155

>>49138037
She's obviously been told as much from NijiJP's she's been trying to poach.

>> No.49138297

>>49132691
That's old news. Only newfags would be surprised, any NijiJP fan'd have known this for ages.

>> No.49138369

>>49138297
And it's a good thing! Livers must be okay with 1%!

>> No.49138527

>>49137847
you sure love to suck Riku's cock huh? what is wrong? nothing to say back?

>> No.49138563

>>49138297
>HAHAHAHA YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE COMPANY WAS ABUSING THE LIVERS NEWFAGS
Do nijiniggers really?

>> No.49138748

>>49138155
I honestly wouldn’t blame those JP livers if they told Kson. They probably wanted to jump ship for years now.

>> No.49138756

>>49137118
>That’s exploitation of the talents.
The talents don't make the merch. The only thing connected to them is their name and image slapped on them. They are not involved in the factories and printing press making the merch!

>> No.49138804

>>49136800
Yeah and that totally makes up to 99% of the sales of it.
Fucking hell man, even the scummy music industry pays their starving musicians better money. Even fucking Spotify does.

>> No.49138886

>>49138756
So, who's going to buy those merchs?
Tell me, who amassed the fans?

>> No.49139111

>>49138886
Are you trying to imply that the poor factory workers don't get a fare share in the merch production?

>> No.49139241

Ok for the people actually concerned in anyway they have voice packs sales that give a good monthly pay not counting supers, sponsors, sponsors, ad rev with which they do get a larger cut. I don’t know if it’s still true but his vods alone is around 500 million so that’s a pretty hefty ad sense. His supers are over a million, and he has 5k members. I don’t know how group voice packs works but even if he gets $3 cut even at a low 1000 it’s an extra 3k a month. 3 view and 4 view talents are not struggling in the slightest with some of them actually being rich. The 2 views are a lost cause and would probably also be broke in hololive so those don’t really matter

>> No.49139310

>>49139111
Are you trying to imply that 1% is a fare share for livers?

>> No.49139413

>>49139241
>niji's yab
>what about hololive
Ever damn time.

>> No.49140172

>>49139310
Can you at least keep a straight argument? Why are you lowering the percentage?

>> No.49140305

>>49132691
They should all go on strike and not make riku a single dime. But we know the corp ass kissers like pomu and Selen will encourage them to not stand for what they believe in.

>> No.49140650

>>49140305
These are still privileged niji livers though. Niji has a bunch of 2 view livers and if there's a strike they will be fired to cut costs.

>> No.49140862

>>49140305
Why protest over something that's barely a blip on their financial earnings? If it were their streamlabs or superchat then sure. But this shit is literally nothing.

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49140944

>>49140172
It can't get lower?

>> No.49141151

>>49140650
So they should accept being scammed by riku then or start over in the Indies. Typical chink tactics.
>>49140862
They're within their rights to especially if they're putting the time and dedication to their jobs. Yes they might not be popular I understand that but what niji is doing still shitty.

>> No.49141288

>>49139111
Those poor factory workers probably don't get shit either, especially if they're making merch in goddamn China. For all we know they're being paid the minimum wage at best.

>>49138756
They're still the ones who built up the branch to where it is today. They're the ones who built up the company and its brand image to where it is today. They're the ones who are the reason why companies want to work with and offer them sponsorships, and why fans even buy their low quality merchandise in the first place.
I'm not saying to give them 99% of the profits, I understand at the end of the day it is still a business. But to not even give them 10-25% of a cut of their merchandise? That's straight up exploitative behavior.

>> No.49141411

>>49138563
>Do nijiniggers really?
Yes. There's been a shitstorm of bootlicking from these faggots on every platform for the past few days.
It's been insane to observe.

>> No.49141685

>>49139413
Every*

>> No.49141729

>>49141151
The top tier livers are still rich e-celebs who you'd hate. I wouldn't take sides with them. The situation of the 2 view livers is different from the top ones. They are weak but still can get viewers to some extent thanks to the nijis corpo brand values and collabs with popular livers and are aware of it. Forcing them to protest against the management is just suicidal and they wouldn't be saved by doing it.

>> No.49145124

>>49132691
That's obvious sarcasm you retard

>> No.49145203

>>49141288
>Those poor factory workers probably don't get shit either
You're right! They should get most of the profit! Since they're the ones making the product. Glad we have come to an understanding!
>They're still the ones who built up the branch to where it is today. They're the ones who built up the company and its brand image to where it is today
Where do you think 98% of their profit comes from, mr concerned citizen!

>> No.49145350

>>49141288
>That's straight up exploitative behavior.
Save us the crocodile tears. If this was a legitmate concern. You fucks wouldn't be shitting up this place. How I doubt you'll be posting seeing how much you hate Niji!

>> No.49145429

This drama shows how deep the corpo bootlicking really goes

>> No.49145491

>>49145429
>This drama shows how deep the dramatuber asskicking really goes

>> No.49145694

>>49145429
If typing patterns and freak outs are any indication, it’s the same few people defending Anycolor knowing that they can’t hide it anymore. Their black company practices are in the spotlight once again, only exposed fully to the EN scene.

>> No.49146008

>>49145694
>the anon types before forgetting it even happened in two days time

>> No.49146069

>>49145429
and unlike Hololive Nijisanji hasn't done anything to actually deserve corpo asslicking

>> No.49146203

>>49146069
>the holofag admits to being a corpo asslicker

>> No.49146483

>>49146203
not him but you are talking about liking a corpo that support your oshi vs one that take 98% of the merch profit, send them on stealth suspensions and make them pay their own debut.

>> No.49146559

>>49146483
>asslicking this hard

>> No.49146854

>But does you want to confirm that?
Literally IP BAN fucking SEA and the board will improve.

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49147903

>>49146854
anon, SEA is your friend

>> No.49147936

>>49147903
>HoloID doesn't exist

>> No.49148362

>>49147936
Pretty sure NijiID is the one that doesn't exist anymore

>> No.49148411

>>49148362
>admits to being friends with SEA

>> No.49148413

>>49132691
>May 21, 2019
Holy shit this is big news.

>> No.49149399

>>49135084
Do you realize their conditions not improving for well over 4 years makes your oshi company look even worse?

>> No.49149547

>>49140944
It could be 1% of the net profit, so the % from the revenue could be even lower

>> No.49149616

>>49132691
They don't care. the company is their oshi.

>> No.49150784

>>49149616
This unironically

>> No.49151384

>>49149399
If all you follow is drama, then all you will see is drama. Get your head out of falseeyed's ass every once in a while and realize no one gives a shit about this.

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