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49091781 No.49091781 [Reply] [Original]

Why are saplings rebelling now?

>> No.49091889

because they are retards and fauna is a retard and it's a retard eat retard world

>> No.49091907

>>49091781
Because Fauna broke the illusion.
She could have lied and said she thought of saplings as friends.
She could have been vague and simply implied it.
But, no, she said the "truth" that people using vtubers as an escapism don't want or care for.
No I do not care for any 1% nijinigger cope. I don't watch them.

>> No.49091915

>>49091781
he is from /here/

>> No.49091916

Chap gepeto, summarize

>> No.49091932 [DELETED] 

>>49091781
based this guys know what's up

>> No.49091959

>>49091781
Mucho texto
Feed it into chatgpt

>> No.49092025
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>>49091781
sapling uprising

>> No.49092028

>>49091907
oh yeah, I'm sure if she'd have lied and said she's a friend people wouldn't criticize it one bit

>> No.49092041

>>49091781
>Gamer age 60
Dementia is terrifying.

>> No.49092045

>>49091781
simpling...

>> No.49092058

>>49091781
what a chad, even the tl;dr is mucho texto

>> No.49092068
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>>49091916
>>49091959
There's a tldr at the bottom.
>>49091915
Picrel must be from here too.
Can't find it anymore though, strange.

>> No.49092113

mucho texto but he's 100% right. I don't get why vtubers find it so hard to grasp that they're surrogate friends/partners and that's why most people watch them

>> No.49092120

Having friends is too much work. I'd rather be alone.

>> No.49092138 [DELETED] 

>>49092068
deleted for being problematic

>> No.49092145

>>49091781
Actually based. Respect to anyone who doesn't hide behind alts and comes out and says how they feel when their oshi steps over the line.

>> No.49092166

>>49092068
move your cursor

>> No.49092167

>>49092028
Lamy
>I'm your girlfriend
Nene
>Chat is my husbands
Fubuki
>You are friend
Fauna could have been
>Yes saplings are my friends
Fauna instead chose
>We are not friends. We shouldn't be friends

>> No.49092180

>>49091781
She gets paid to be our pretend internet girlfriend and she can't even bothered to friendzone us

>> No.49092246

>>49091781
>when their reminded
learn english

>> No.49092249

>>49092028
Nigga its literally what the best holos do
Lamy, Nene, Friend, Miko, etc
Some even go further and tell you you're their husband / boyfriend

>> No.49092287

>>49092068
It's still there.

>> No.49092294

>>49091781
So mucho texto to say nothing

>> No.49092338

>>49091781
kek the way he says
>i'm gonna go play bloodbowl 2

>> No.49092423

>>49091781
damn, you expect me to read all this?

>> No.49092442 [DELETED] 

>WE'RE NOT FRIENDS
>Btw come listen to my asmr >///< UmU

>> No.49092497

>>49091781
get get get some help...

>> No.49092507

>>49091781
Imagine being Fauna.
Imagine doing nothing of significance with your life but give poor saps a few moments of illusory reprieve from the crappy realities they've ended up having to endure.
Imagine being paid handsomely and well above what you deserve for the skills you have and what you give back to the world for it.
Imagine thinking so highly of yourself that you forget that your business is emotional prostitution for the most desperate, lonely and unwanted men on the Internet.
Imagine throwing it all away because you want to own the saps that enable your cushy lifestyle.

>> No.49092514

>>49091781
could have said the same thing in a third as many character but he's still right

>> No.49092517

>>49091781
I feel sorry for this dude. He just wanted someone to be his friend, or at least say that they are to continue with the illusion. Now Fauna has stripped him of that and ruined his week.

>> No.49092539

>>49092113
Because they are stupid whores who are too retarded to realize they arent talented or funny but people just want to fuck them

>> No.49092550

>>49092167
She could've even done better and said "Friend? Why would you want to be my friend when you are already my saplings?"

>> No.49092582

>>49092442
>flirts with us
>kisses us
>goes on a date with us
What changed between birthday stream Fauna and post-Kronii Fauna?

>> No.49092593

>>49092507
It doesn't matter how *smart* she allegedly is, she's still a woman. Women will always have woman moments.

>> No.49092643

>>49092249
huh mikos 35p aren't friends, theyre producers

>> No.49092653

>>49092167
You are right, saplings are her children not friends and she is mommy
Glad we sorted it out

>> No.49092666

>>49092517
Real Friends are hot garbage that turn against each other.

>> No.49092670

>>49091781
Contain the schizo in /here/ you absolute degenerates. Don't infect outside places where most people aren't like you with these delusions

>> No.49092675
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>>49092442
>we cannot be friends
>we should not be friends
>I am only here to entertain you, that is all
*fauna says with love heart shaped pupils*

>> No.49092684

>>49092550
Literally the perfect answer.

>> No.49092707

>Kronii had manage to corrupt fauna just from a single visit
She can’t be stopped

>> No.49092718
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>>49091781

>> No.49092733

>>49092028
Yes, literally nothing would have happened. Why would anyone complain about that? How would anyone have known that was a lie before this?

>> No.49092749

>>49091781
you don't want your waiter serving you to tell you that they went to the toilet even though you know they too are humans. you don't want your mom to tell you that she had sex even though i fucked her last night. Some things shouldn't be said to maintain the illusion and fauna fucked up.

>> No.49092773

>>49092582
Kronii.

>> No.49092778

it just feels bad that they actively hate their viewers. fauna knows what her audience wants, she could've just lied and kept up the illusion. sheer disgust really can't be held back eh

>> No.49092793

GWS

>> No.49092794

>>49092028
absolute fucking retard

>> No.49092818

She's awake and definitely reading these now. Do you think she'll be smart and just let this all fizzle out? Or will she try to fix it by talking about it on stream, therefore making it 200% worse and twisting her own words more?

>> No.49092837

>>49092507
It's not going to change anything. Even the ones like in OP's image are going to go back to simping for her after a few days.

>> No.49092859

>>49092718
The Gura one is weak. My rrat is she streams less just so she doesn't do this to herself

>> No.49092869

>>49092058
>a single paragraph is mucho texto
Ok zoomer

>> No.49092891

>>49092837
I will if she doesn't behave differently

>> No.49092895

>>49092818
Her next stream is ASMR, so adressing it there would be weird. If she were smart, she'd cancel ASMR and then return on Thursday like nothing happened and not address it.

>> No.49092899

everything from this dumb whore's hypocrisy from the beginning, to the cucklings denying the yab, to polcel/redditor retards cashing in with dogshit nihilist takes about disillusionment reeks of stupidity.
a relationship that is not identical to that of "real life" friends does not annihilate the existence of the relationship.
all retards involved fail to acknowledge this. but fuck this dumb bitch for saying that knowing just how many more fucking morons are gonna rope from these entitled moralfag cunts.

>> No.49092902

>>49092145
What line?
I have looked around but you know

>> No.49092933

>>49092707
Kronii was corrupted by Mori in the first place. Remember it was about the same amount of time after Mori's visit that she decided to turn on the Kronies.

>> No.49092932

>>49092818
Who gives a fuck what nijiniggers think? Theyve been spamming the catalog desperately with whatever they can try deflect from the fact anycolor steals 98% of earnings from their own livers

>> No.49092979

>>49092442
Do you consider the hooker or porn ASMR individual your friend? At the end of the day you still get your service and enjoy it. Vtubers who offer personalized stuff is no different.

>> No.49092981

>>49091781
this guy summarized it pefectly, all vtubers should see this, that is how you do vtubing, not shit on your fans for it.

>> No.49093017

>>49092932
I'm sure op pic is a nijinigger.
Damn coulda fooled me. Retard.

>> No.49093019

>>49092550
bro you need to be a vtubing coach or some shit

>> No.49093021

>>49091781
I hate to be the bearer of worse news, but this was a long time coming. She just hid her woman-ness better than Mori or Kronii did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULpvXU9FEiM&t=12484s

>> No.49093023 [DELETED] 

>>49092818
Fauna doesn't read 4chan
https://streamable.com/mv8tfy

>> No.49093024

>>49092675
hot

>> No.49093061

>>49092932
Every since that was discovered the catalogue has been flooded with nothing but people (rightfully) shitting on Anycolor for it. There are no more 'deflection' threads than for anything else, you disingenuous nigger.

>> No.49093081
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>>49091781
>wagner deflection thread

>> No.49093117

>>49092120
I'm a lone wolf myself

>> No.49093133

>>49093023
He probably meant the youtube comments

>> No.49093146

>>49093023
the femoid fears /us/

>> No.49093165

>>49093021
>all debuff roads lead to Mori
Why am I not surprised

>> No.49093189

>>49091781
This guy is right that hearing about "friendship" stings. I prefer to forget about the existence of this concept.

>> No.49093202

>>49093081
Richard Wagner did nothing wrong.

>> No.49093215

>>49093081
The Tristan chord of yabs

>> No.49093246

>>49093023
I knew it

>> No.49093258

>>49091781
>Like a wallet waiting for the next acrylic stand
But that's what they are?

>> No.49093281

>>49091781
cringe reddit essay coming from a mentally ill retard with nice guy syndrome
he probably is the type to get turned down kindly from a chick then turn around and call her a cunt and say he never liked her

>> No.49093293
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49093293

Get fucked gfefags

>> No.49093301

>>49092733
by not being a retard?

>> No.49093360

>>49093202
Damned purists complaining about incest.

>> No.49093367

>>49093023
Wtf this model fits the voice so much better, fauna is officially not mommy

>> No.49093379

>>49092167
>retard can't tell the difference between superficial titles and reality
She should have just ignored the supa and moved on, considering how knuckle dragging mouth breathers like you can't determine what is reality and what isn't. Fauna was completely in the right to point out that parasocial interaction does not replace interpersonal friendship. If you genuinely cannot handle even the most polite rejection, you should probably be medicated.

>> No.49093392

>Average Holofan gets his illusion broken for the umpteenth time
At this point it's time for them to go fishing for 2views and start leeching

>> No.49093396

>>49091781
How do you guys find these comments? I just checked Fauna's 2 last streams, as well as the profile of the commenter in the OP, and I couldn't find anything.

>> No.49093422

>>49093281
He just like me fr

>> No.49093447

>>49092517
Fauna is concerned that her fans are getting too emotionally dependent and how is that a bad thing? The guy is correct that Hololive encourages the parasocial relationship to get money but he misses the reason why talents would discourage that. She is telling people like that to go outside and touch grass so they don't build their life around a corpo.

>> No.49093482

>>49093165
You and me both. Let’s just be glad Takamori died in the water.

>> No.49093496

>EN fan
>oshi constantly shits on you

>JP fan
>oshi loves you even if it's just as a friend and wants you to know this
JPchads literally can't stop winning

>> No.49093518

>>49093023
The first time I've heard shondo speaking with anything even remotely close to a bong accent. 2 years later and it's all but vanished.

>> No.49093550

>>49091781
Ex-kronie here
Something you have to keep in mind is that Kronii went on a 1 week hiatus after a relatively small yab THEN the situation escalated
Coincidentally Fauna goes on a short vacation next week
Prepare for the worst after she comes back, make it double if she mentions talking to Mori

>> No.49093605

>>49093496
Didn't Marine recently do a "we're not real friends" thing in one of her streams, basically saying the same thing as Fauna?

>> No.49093607

>>49093550
I can't wait for Fauna's first collab with Tempus.

>> No.49093610

>>49092670
Fuck off, shill. Face it, you're defending a bunch of whores and their corporate pimps whenever you shame the idiots who fall in love with the illusion, who are the prime monetary mover of this degenerate industry. None of these whores joined Hololive because they like entertaining people, there's a thousand other better venues for that if you have any talent. They all know how easy it is to make fake voices, play video games and do lazy acting under direction from a manager and animating a hot anime waifu to make weebs who will never find a woman pay through the nose.

>> No.49093650

>>49093447
>She is telling people like that to go outside and touch grass so they don't build their life around a corpo.
She doesn't have the right to tell anyone these things though. That's not her job. She said it herself, she's an entertainer. So her role is to entertain, not hand out life lectures.

>> No.49093653

>>49092028
The people that would have criticized it don't matter.

>> No.49093655

>>49093605
NO
Stop dragging innocents into this

>> No.49093664

>>49093496
>JP Fan
>Listen to males be in the same room as your oshi (Towa), talk about having amazing sex with their boyfriend (Aloe), or get discovered they live with their boyfriend (Rushia)
oh no no no no

>> No.49093698

>>49093496
>JP
>chad
>willingly gets cucked by married girls
Western man, stay home. Die silently.

>> No.49093728

>>49093605
Don't know, don't watch coomer bait whores

>> No.49093733

The thing is, I don't want to be her friend. I want to be her fan. She's an idol. She's my oshi. I support her. I push her from behind. That relationship is fundamentally different from a relationship between friends - it's between an idol and her fan. And I think this is what she was getting at, although she would use the word entertainer or streamer. The relationship between a streamer and her chat is parasocial, but it's not friendship, and that's okay. It's something new, something that exists in the modern era, and she and I are exploring it together. People who got their feelings hurt by this are stupid or seeking attention or both.

>> No.49093737

>>49093610
Do you think all vtubers are whores?

>> No.49093743

He's right the problem is from the failed normalfags who watch clips and want to 'own the incels' because they're actually failed losers whose biggest accomplishment is going to a party once.

>> No.49093744

>>49093605
My guess Marine is getting gassed on being a vtuber, if only just for a season, and seeing that her market and conversations with chat is now 99% her being a lewd whore. there's not much joy left in feigning friendship

>> No.49093750

>>49092249
>miko
you do know the P in 35p means producer right?

>> No.49093764

>>49091907
She should have just ignored the SC since it was a troll SC that set up a false dichotomy.

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>>49093605
Yeah, and honestly much more bluntly.

>> No.49093819

>>49093215
it’s literally just a nonfunctional dominant that modulates it’s not hard to understand without mental gymnastics

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>>49092718
>I'm doing what I can, when I can.
Ganbatte shark!

>> No.49093830

>>49093550
>relatively small yab
Very easy to parade it that way, but this is the same timeloop and you fags are gonna cause it yourself with your continued bitching AGAIN

>> No.49093831

>>49092550
>>49092684
>>49093019
people would jump on her for giving the same answer as Mori, because that's pretty much what she said word by word

>> No.49093848

>>49093664
>>49093698
See
>>49093728

>> No.49093852

>>49092028
I don't need the radio jock to tell me he doesn't actually give a shit if I have a goodnight when he tells me good night and good luck. Stop trying to push your realism bullshit in entertainment media it's not supposed to be real and realist faggots are the biggest autistic cancer in the world. What's worse is that you think you're "owning the nerds" when in reality it's similar to telling a fan of a football player that that player doesn't even know they exist even though they have all the merch. Who fucking cares. Get a life, unironically, besides criticizing how other people live their lives.

>> No.49093893

>>49093831
no because Fauna could have seemed genuine while saying it, but it's too late now

>> No.49093896

>>49093769
I wonder if 5chan lost their shit over that like this dump lost their minds over Fauna telling viewers that she isn't actually their friend.

>> No.49093906

>>49093819
>nonfunctional
you
>dominant
me
it's not that hard to understand

>> No.49093921

>>49093447
>She is telling people like that to go outside and touch grass so they don't build their life around a corpo.

While the intentions are good, doing this blindly without an actual personalized discussion/plan for them only makes it worse. Anyone that is truly that deep into it needs to find themselves personally or via close channels vs some random entertainer who doesn’t know their personal struggles tell them to just fix it. Funny enough she would have had a better chance of achieving her goal by just continuing what she did but maybe modifying her content to inspire her fans to be better for her and having it naturally come to them in real life.

>> No.49093949

>>49092166
it was intentional to show the membership length RETARD

>> No.49093955
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>>49093202
>>49093215
t.Chopin fanboys

>> No.49093958

>>49092113
It's pretty easy to get actually
>2016
>only people who browse 4chan know what Kizuna Ai is in the west
>2019
>some reddit faggots are hopping on board the holotrain
>2020
>it gets popular massively and western e-girls see they can transition from meme jobs like "asmr expert" to "vtuber" and make more money
>2023
>retarded e-girls cannot keep the kayfabe because they want free money for being bad at a very simple job and don't want to have 'nerds' equate them as friendly equals
All problems originate from western normalfags getting in on the trend. All problems would go away if these people were gatekept better. Simple as.

>> No.49093964

>>49091781
I want to give this sapling a hug
It's okay bro, you are not alone

>> No.49093968

>>49091781
>words words words
Delete yourselves right now moralfags.

>> No.49093970

>>49091781
Sapling Fauna distance = infinite from now on

>> No.49093975

>>49093896
>>49093769
Yeah this will work sapchuds
You guys are making so many enemies

>> No.49093977

>>49092120
>Having friends is too much work
unironically this. Social media has destroyed this world.

>> No.49093978

>>49093848
>Don't watch Coomer bait whores
>Watches Corpo JP Girls
pick 1

>> No.49093981

>>49093831
no one would have even registered that answer because it falls within keyfabe.

The one she gave broke the illusion instead.

>> No.49093982

>>49091781
meds

>> No.49093993

Fauna didn't wrangle whatever she was using to dispose of green women, it turned back on herself

>> No.49094006

>Mommy character
>Monthly GFE ASMR
>Refuses to collab with men or people outside Hololive

"Stop being parasocial fucks, but oh make sure to purchase my overpriced merch k thanks."

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>>49093830
>YOU WILL SHUT UP AND BE HAPPY

>> No.49094038

>>49092539
I don't want to fuck them, that's a lot of work romancing an e-celeb. I just want an e-celeb who isn't actually a bad person. I'm tired of every medium being filled with clout chasing talentless dramadickheads. Assmongoloid killed his mom, people like him are bad. Why the fuck do people make them popular?

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>>49093733
>She's an idol
She's a grifter whore

>> No.49094081

>>49093975
I don't get it, am I supposed to be upset?

>> No.49094099

Kronii's corruption of Council continues, pretty sure they literally hung out the other day. Now the only good ones in EN are Irys and Kiara, how fitting because they both actually speak JP too and at least understand the culture of the industry that they are in.

>> No.49094100

>>49093955
Chopin deez nuts

>> No.49094102

>>49093019
>>49092550
He should unironically apply for cover as a manager. Someone needs to vet these bitches better.

>> No.49094122

What I don't understand is how someone can say this, and then turn around and do girlfriend roleplay ASMR and sell girlfriend ERP voicepacks. Like, don't you see the hypocrisy?

>> No.49094149

>>49091781
Tbh that post isn't really out of line or unhinged. I get what he's saying. Though I do think it's all a bit much

>> No.49094150

>>49093733
You can't use idol logic here anymore. Only when discussing purity and men being on stream when it suits you. The fact that anons here still bundle Hololive idols with every other vtuber should tell you to run.

>> No.49094155

>>49094006
Fauna didn't say parasocial = bad though

>> No.49094158

>>49094102
>Someone needs to vet these bitches better
It's hard when you're used to dealing with Japanese women and you have to hire Americans.

>> No.49094168

>>49093379
He can tell the difference retard, his point is that fantasy is fantasy and not real. Fuck off back to watching real housewives of your mom's house if you can't grasp that. YOU are the outsider here, you are the one who is not needed or wanted.

>> No.49094173

>>49093769
>recently
This was very long ago. Nice try though.

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>>49093955
*blocks your path*

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>>49093447
There are much less retarded ways she could have said it

>> No.49094193

>>49094006
>Stop being parasocial
Timestamp?

>> No.49094205

>>49093650
They can't help owning the incels

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>>49094100
desu that shit is kinda popular today
kinda scary,,,

>> No.49094236

>>49093978
Cope more roastie

>> No.49094241

>>49094007
Yeah that'll work. Do the parenthesis thing next.

>> No.49094257

>>49094150
I generally just lurk but yeah, this is a real shithole. The constant manufactured drama is exhausting when all I really want to do is talk about impregnating hags and gush over Fauna with people.

>> No.49094261

Hot take - Fauna laying out the realities of parasocial relationships is a kindness.

>>49094122
Because it's clearly roleplay, anyone that actually thought Fauna was GFE is a retard.

>> No.49094267

>>49091781
Im not reading that shit but the less schizo saplings the better t. also watch Kronii

>> No.49094276

>>49094236
Cope less parasocial leech

>> No.49094277

>>49094081
Marine isn't big into gfe and she's collabed with men
And she was still much kinder and gentle than any EN slut
Here's your L

>> No.49094286

>>49094006
I never understood the whole mommy thing when it comes to Fauna, she acts like a teenage brat

>> No.49094293

>>49094122
>ERP voice packs
What? Where?

>> No.49094302

>>49091916
2% deflection wall of text

>> No.49094316

>>49094168
Yeah I guess I am the outsider here considering how mentally ill retards like you are
>>49094277
Retard

>> No.49094327

So who's left in HoloEN that's worthwhile and unicorn/parasocial friendly?

>> No.49094343

>>49094316
L

>> No.49094354

>>49094099
>how fitting because they both actually speak JP too and at least understand the culture of the industry that they are in.
I don't think that's a coincidence
Kiara was big into idol culture before joining Hololive and appreciates where they come from
IRyS lives in japan and has a similar appreciation for japanese culture and understands the otaku mindset
The other EN girls comes from the backgrounds of being normal youtubers or twitch streamers and neither of those understand what people want from a vtuber idol company
I guess Hololive itself can be blamed for not properly coaching the girls on this beforehand but EN management has been a consistent series of fuckups so it's almost lucky we lasted this long at all

>> No.49094357

>>49094158
It's actually crazy how jap woman works in a fish factory and she's over the moon suddenly being rich and never having to work night shifts sorting fish to survive or eat grass, but western woman works at a shit job or something and then suddenly achieves success and she jthinks "finally the world is giving me the riches I deserved for existing"

But it's also understandable. Japanese people only respect work, they don't have feminist parades or whatever so women aren't told "YOU ARE A QUEEN FOR EXISTING" while western women working shit jobs are fed propaganda like women's self-help books that tell them they are entitled to the good life and the universe is wrong for denying them that. The entire culture literally tells women they deserve free shit here and people are surprised they act ungrateful all the time.

>> No.49094372

>>49094343
Retard

>> No.49094376

>>49094155
If she didn't think parasocial = bad then why has she advised people to not see her as a friend? If she thought there was nothing wrong with it and it wasn't bad then she wouldn't say anything about it at all.

>> No.49094382

>>49091781
source of what Fauna said that set off the drama?

>> No.49094383
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49094383

>>49094327
Apologize

>> No.49094411

LOL the original comment got deleted, Fauna's mods really working overtime to even silence her most loyal members who dare speak any criticism against her.

>> No.49094415

Make sure to do a flip Saplings

>> No.49094420

>>49094122
Girls on that do audio/gfe porn do fine without listeners gong crazy because I just appreciate her fap material that brought me entertainment for the night and move on. It’s just a service you pay for potentially no different the the age old saying of “don’t fall in love with a stripper”

>> No.49094422
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49094422

>let them enjoy their delusions
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why society is the way it is. You guys are like trannies in a sense - you acknowledge that there's a problem, but none of you want to get better. You just want to revel in the relative comfort of a gilded delusion, never striving for better. I'm tired of this sad, defeatist husk of a generation. Fauna has my eternal respect for this.

>> No.49094446

>>49094277
Fauna doesn't do GFE either. No, don't listen to saplings who think that Fauna giving fanservice counts as GFE. I watch plenty of other vtubers who throw chat a few bones and they're not remotely GFE

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49094462

>>49094179
Anoyone even care about hungarians?

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49094467

>>49094241

>> No.49094469

>>49094168
>YOU are the outsider here
We'll see when she graduates like Mori, Ame, and Kronii

>> No.49094483

>>49094422
Feel free to leave this board and never return.

>> No.49094486

>>49094372
L

>> No.49094490

>>49094122
>don't you see the hypocrisy?
Gotta have standards to be a hypocrite

>> No.49094495

>>49093281
Pretty much. Honestly sad to see I share an oshi with people like that.

>> No.49094511

>>49094422
Wow it's like plato's cave or whatever

>> No.49094526

>>49094469
L

>> No.49094530

>>49094122
All they see is massive amounts of money.

>> No.49094546

>>49094467
Don't kill yourself yet anon, I need you to watch everything you love die

>> No.49094544

>>49094376
parasocial relationships aren't real friendships and people need to realize that.

>> No.49094549

>>49094261
>Hot take - Fauna laying out the realities of parasocial relationships is a kindness.
Cool, does that mean she will stop profiting off parasocial fans with ASMR streams, expensive memberships and every assorted affectation of closeness she has used since debut? Will she drop the model and produce riveting gaming content completely deprived of her status as a coombait cartoon waifu? Will she apologize for the cowkini porn bait that tread the line between all-ages entertainment and pornography?

We both know she won't do any of that, the grift is too damn good to give up on.

>> No.49094555

>>49091781
This is so sad. So many incels relying on internet whores to experience some semblance of companionship. I imagine that having your oshi say you are just a stranger is like a tranny being reminded they will never be a woman.

Industrial society was a mistake.

>> No.49094563

>>49094257
>all I really want to do is talk about impregnating hags and gush over Fauna with people.
based and same, except I want to gush -inside- fauna.

>> No.49094572
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49094572

just about sums up the issue

>> No.49094578

>>49093949
Don't call me that

>> No.49094587

>>49094422
>comes to hobby board
>acts confused when people get annoyed by casualfag retards who don't actually like the hobby, but pretend they're experts anyway

>> No.49094595

>>49094563
I'm waiting a few more years for her to ripen.

>> No.49094604

>>49094276
Kill yourself entitled cunt. You're ugly as fuck.

>> No.49094607

>>49094411
Plenty of other comments that stayed up that are more critical, from both grays and loyal members. Could be a self delete since you guys posted this on the fucking catalogue.

>> No.49094613

>>49094217
pain

>> No.49094639

why is kronii so powerful?? fauna has spent time with other mems in the past and this shit never happened.

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49094644

You know what's really going on behind the scenes

>> No.49094652

>>49094382
She told all her fans who care about her to fuck off

>>49094383
>be Gura
>win by doing nothing
Sasuga

>> No.49094665

>>49094483
Nah, I don't think I will. Bedlam has many patients, and pathetic unicorns like yourself are just one faction among them.

>> No.49094669

>>49094572
That's 2 long a summary enhance!

>> No.49094670

>>49094122
I've always thought this but fauna feels extra-fake as a person. She talks about 'being real' but she's inherently fake, everything about her is fake.

>> No.49094707

>>49094572
no sane person watches any of EN because they're just such good streamers

>> No.49094708

>>49094354
> it's almost lucky we lasted this long at all
It's not luck at all, it involves a lot of effort into astroturfing and consensus trolling places like this board and beyond.

>> No.49094711

>>49093396
They probably wrote them themselves

>> No.49094714

Sometimes i wonder what the fuck am i doing interacting with people like this on a daily basis. They are blaming a girl who streams videogames for not being their friend, how can you be so deluded? why does this people always ruin everything? go create a tulpa or something you fucking weirdo, stop destroying shit i like because you are a fragile, insecure subhuman piece of shit

>> No.49094719

How many of you autistic niggers are there holy shit?!

>> No.49094726

>>49094286
I have literally never met a teenager who talks like that. But I also think she doesn't fit the 'boomer' stereotype she tries to force herself into, sometimes.

>> No.49094728

>>49094376
Because she literally explained that she defines friend as someone who shows you their worst side who you fight with and get ugly and she said she sees being an idol and fan as putting out your best sides.

>> No.49094731

>>49094670
She's the cnn of vtubers

>> No.49094736

>>49092167
This, Watame also calls her watamates family, even when someone comes with the wife SC joke, she shoots that person down together with the chat by saying no wife, yes family, she's only 6 years old, etc
EN holos seem to think the anime character is just them alone and they can do anything, instead of the approach that made hololive so successful, the character belonging to every fan while the streamer does kayfabe

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49094753

>>49093769
You know what's missing in this image Sapcuck?
The bit where the context was that a viewer sent her a supa where he admitted he couldn't be happy without her around and basically shut down and did nothing with himself when she wasn't streaming, and she gave a long talk about this because she was worried others in her community were like that, and wanted them to actually find happiness in life, because she was worried they'd eventually reach a point where even she couldn't make them happy.
The two situations here are not at all comparable.

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49094756

>ignore her PL
>fight doxxfags
>fight grasshoppers
>fight homobeggars
>be treated like this

>> No.49094761

What are you going to do if you put all your emotional energy into a vtuber, and then she graduates? She could reincarnate, but she won't be the same person you loved her for. Or she might not go back to being an internet prescence ever again.

Would you be able to live with that hole in your heart? Are you strong enough to love again?

Or are you smart enough to realize that all this is just entertainment, appreciate it as it is, and steel your heart for the enivitability of death (graduation)?

>> No.49094768

>>49094604
The irony of a unicorn demanding an etiquette their oshi never agreed to, calling others entitled.

Take the L and move on bro

>> No.49094780

>>49094422
Based.

>> No.49094782

>>49094549
Why would she? All she did was give you an ultimatum.
You can actually stop watching this shit, or you can accept you're a failure as a man and keep watching a fake anime egirl lie to you.
"but I never asked for this"
Should have stuck with 2D like others warned.

>> No.49094805

>>49094644
I hate that gender confused freak so fucking much

>> No.49094807

>>49092068
It's still there. It has even more likes. There's at least 60+ people in the comment section who were at the very least bothered by what she said. The high numbers always surprise me t b h. It hurts to see this shit happen to her.

>> No.49094816

>>49091781
There's really nothing wrong with what he said, to go just kick out the crutch from the people who actually-do get some real healing and fulfilment from talking to these anime girls is just not necessary and doesn't help anyone. You can't do it and then try to pose that she did it "nicely" by then lecturing the chat as if they're kindergardners about how to make friends, arguably that actually makes it worse as it just shows how condescending she actually-is.

>> No.49094820

>>49094383
>Collabed with MattPat
>WANTED To collab with Mattpat, as in not forced by corpo whatsoever
Get your whore out of my face

>> No.49094822

>>49094756
>ignore her PL
now that was fucking stupid

>> No.49094826

>>49094756
Unicorns were right all along. I thought I could just get CGDCT from her but we can't even have that.

>> No.49094838

>>49094756
>ignore her PL
shouldn't have ignored, should've hopped to a different mem, that was a fucking red flag

>> No.49094859

>>49094549
Are you paying your friends to show you affection? She didn't say that parasocial relationships are bad, she just correctly laid out that they aren't real friendships which need to be a 2 way street.

>> No.49094866

>>49093733
You can't "oshi" an EN anon, the culture doesn't exist in the west.

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49094869

>>49094546
You will kill yourself before it happen kek

>> No.49094874

>>49094753
...I don't watch Marine or Fauna aside from the stuff that was linked but isn't that basically the same? Down to the pokt where they both wanted their fans to find happiness in life.

>> No.49094885

>>49094714
>I hate this board because it ruins my hobby
>keeps reading the board
Found the retard. At least you don't actively grift the mentally ill like fauna

>> No.49094887

>>49094714
They want illusion, they want the fake to look like real, they want what they can't get IRL.
It's sad, but it is what is, this is not only on saplings, you have the same shit for every vtubers out there.

>> No.49094898

>>49094756
I'm legit starting to think it is actually them behind it, what kind of actual parasocial chad would larp about how they only ever wanted to be friendzoned.

>> No.49094917

>>49092550
perferct answer, anon. you're proving once again that men>women.

>> No.49094936

>>49094707
Being a good streamer means being entertaining. And EN girls are entertaining.

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>>49094122
Ironically, ASMR fits right inside her values. Everyone who tunes in knows that it's fan service and acts as. What I find more hypocritical of her is her program for Thursday: a members only watchalong for the Hitman movie.
If you think of yourself as an entertainer and you don't think of your chat as your friends, don't do something that's very much encouraging parasocial behavior, has you sit in silence most of the time so it has low entertainment value and in addition to that it's paywalled, making it exclusive content for those who chose to be a more supporting fan.

>> No.49094972

>>49094587
I'm not sure how you could possibly twist a simple recital of fact into anything resembling "confusion," but you do you.

>> No.49094978

>>49094644
Damn can't believe Kronii became a broke Mori

>> No.49094979

>>49094714
Because they invaded this board, not the other way around. There's a reason /jp/ hates vtubers with a passion, and it's because it invites the lowest IQ of western/sea fags in to gush over the lowest standard of an "idol", a PNG of an anime girl.

>> No.49094988

>>49091781
this is just sad

>> No.49094999

>>49094572
That about sums it up.

>> No.49095004

>>49092653
she literally said saplings are just simps to her. hence your new title simpling.

>> No.49095009

>>49094707
NTA but I do. Am I crazy? I watch other streamers and vtubers too but I can't be the only one.

>> No.49095020

>>49091781
she deleted it lmfao

>> No.49095022

>>49094761
Look to Pikamee for your answers. They'll do nothing and forget about her in a week.

>> No.49095038

>>49094999
That's literally what he said, retard

>> No.49095040

>>49094122
> what I don't understand is, how can Yui just say that "K-On isn't real, we are not real girls" and in the very next episode just continue hanging out with the other girls as if nothing happened?
>>49094261
> because it's clearly roleplay, anyone that actually thought Yui was real is retarded
>>49094782
> you can stop watching K-On, or you can accept that you're a failure and keep watching an anime girl lie to you

>> No.49095044

>>49094122
UH ACTUALLY ITS DIFFERENT because uh IT JUST IS

>> No.49095060

>>49095038
And i'm agreeing with him you dumb bastard

>> No.49095072

>>49094822
this, she always thought this way actually, just was good at pretending she didn't until now.

you know something, mumei is the same way too FYI. council was fucking rotten to the core. we say the decline of EN is tempus but actually it legit was council by the character of who they picked for the girls. EN3 won't be any better either. they won't hold out for that 1% of chuubas who legit don't have an urge to punch down at and subtly torment their audience because they look down on them. they'll take whoever -sounds- the cutest as the prime qualifier and ignore their other actually-important character attributes.

>> No.49095080

>>49095022
I still remember some lemon let's play youtiber from 2015.
I'll remember pika for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time

>> No.49095082

>>49094820
MatPat is married and it would have been in a professional setting so it's fine.

>> No.49095084 [DELETED] 

This is why I follow her. I love her long ramblings. I'm glad she got that off of her shoulder.

>> No.49095085

>>49091781
Whatever you say. You deleted your own comment to make everyone else and Fauna look deranged. You fucking retarded mentally stunted low functioning autist. Kill yourself.

>> No.49095092
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49095092

>Wholesome vtuber is sincere and states the obvious, she's an entertainer and not her viewers' friend
>pathetic unicorn parasocial desperate needy affectionless incels who never touched a woman seethe
kys, all hail Ceres Fauna.

>> No.49095106

>>49094756
Some people will tell you that it serves you right. But it's not your fault, Anon. You did what you could and you still got hurt in the end. But of no fault of your own.

>> No.49095108

>>49094122
>"Don't use me as a substitute for social interaction"
>$ells voice packs with the express purpose of being substitutes for social interaction
...

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Kind of funny how much the chinese are afraid of Fubuki to the point where they completely ignore her existence
>I am not your wife stop calling me that

>> No.49095121

>>49094572
>People unironically consider people like Fauna as "anime girls"
No fucking way. There's absolutely no way your suspension of disbelief is that intense

>> No.49095137

>>49094942
She's a professional movie commentator, not your friend.

>> No.49095155

>>49095092
>[buzzword] vtuber is sincere and states the obvious, she's [buzzword] and not her viewers' friend
>pathetic [buzzword] [buzzword] desperate needy affectionless [buzzword] who never touched a woman [buzzword]

>> No.49095170

>>49095085
I dont think he deleted the comment

>> No.49095171

>>49095082
>Western marriage used as a barrier
>Professional demeaner as a barrier
>People unironically believe this
Yea bro, i've never heard of married people ever going on ego-fueled sex sessions before

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49095173

The problem with Fauna's statement is that she is heavily parasocial herself and frequently encourages parasocial behavior from her saplings but when it is brought up as a topic of conversation she contradicts her own actions
Through her actions she makes it clear that she wants saplings to be emotionally attached to her but in her own words punishes them for even wanting to be friends
I think it would be understanble if she didn't want to be a pretend mommy gf for them but going so far as to say she wouldn't even be friends with them is painful
I spend 10 minutes in paint for this you better give me a (you)

>> No.49095177

>>49093958
>it's been nearly 7 years
Crazy

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49095181

>>49095121
not anymore I guess

>> No.49095182

>>49093379
>Join a field based off making money off of parasocial relationships
>Make parasocial money
>Won't even keep up the barest hint of kayfabe
Why.

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49095184

>>49094869
More

>> No.49095207

>>49094644
Fcking knew it

>> No.49095209

>>49094756
>ignore her PL
Congrats. You chose to ignore the biggest red flag of them all.

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>>49095173
I applaud your effort

>> No.49095234

>>49094644
YOU FUCKIGN WHORE YOU RUINED HER ILL KILL YOU

>> No.49095244

>>49094422
Let's be real, some problems can't be solved by "just improving yourself." Even reality is filled with delusion. Many people mask their true thoughts and feelings, because being vulnerable and honest is just asking to get hurt. What's a person with no one supposed to do? Getting help is harder than people say, if it was so easy then there wouldn't be so many broken and damaged people in the world, so many people clinging to a fantasy to keep themselves going.

>> No.49095243

>>49091781
You know, maybe this guy is delusional and SHOULD suffer. Yeah it stings when she says she's not your friend, but that's because its the truth. Maybe its because you've lived your life so afraid of ever being hurt that you got to this point where any break from your make-believe fantasy feels like you're being attacked. Some people could do with a bit more hurt in their lives, that's how you grow.

>> No.49095246

>>49091781
basically she decided to do gfe content to grow and now that she is big enough she is backpedaling, just a typical en bitch.

>> No.49095251

>>49094768
>projecting
You will die alone femoid

>> No.49095265

>>49094544
>Spoilers
But people already do acknowledge that fact, they just decide to ignore it because they don't know how to make real friends or want to live in that fantasy world and calling them out serves no purpose other than trying to stir shit up.
If you see fauna's chat you'll see how much of a cult it was around her, she knew how things were and still decided not to poke the nest, but to rip it off when she herself built it in the first place, I don't know what kind of change happened to her but this sudden reaction just seems off for someone like her that has dealt with this for so long and has had a lot of experience.

>> No.49095270

Kwaboty, lmao

>> No.49095271

It's a real one-two punch coming mere days after her statement that she doesn't think she is being watched or perceived until a celebrity shows up.

>> No.49095282

>>49095173
Dude that's why people blaming Kronii here.. she is the root of all evil

>> No.49095283

>>49094756
ignoring the PL is retarded but not relevant here.
truly its not fully her fault. there are these current western attitudes and she got caught.
fanbase going to fracture, numbers go down, and refugees will move away scarred. that sucks. should have gone to jp.

>> No.49095300 [DELETED] 

>>49094874
No fauna fell for a bait SC calling sapling Simps

>> No.49095308

No more parasocial incel money for her then...

>> No.49095309

>>49091781
I fucking hate schizos who actually think about vtubers as friends. Get the rope retards

>> No.49095314

>>49095173
You forgot "profits monetarily off of saplings attachment" but otherwise good diagram.

>> No.49095319 [DELETED] 

>>49094756
Her Pl was fucking messed up. I still don't understand it

>> No.49095323

>>49095171
... you know they weren't going to meet up in real life, right?

>> No.49095329

>>49091781
False sapling

>> No.49095348

>>49094422
You act like there are no people who simply can't get friends even if they wanted to "improve" themselves. You can't improve someone with a cripping anxiety, autism or various physical disabilities that makes them pretty much homebound.
Also, this thread is clearly filled with "YALL LOWKEY YAS GIRL SLAY TAKE THE L" twitter subhumans so no wonder posts like yours are popping up.
Same people that want severely autistic people to improve themselves, also put up with some of the most derranged mental gymnastics from the gender schizos on twitter.

>> No.49095350

>>49094768
>demanding an etiquette their oshi never agreed to
they agreed when they joined hololive you fucking retard

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>>49095184
Sure, a glimpse into your future

>> No.49095408

>>49095265
I blame the Kronii offcollab. They bitched about their responsibilities and Kronii convinced her to yass kween. Women tearing each other down; tale as old as time.

>> No.49095414

>>49095251
I don't think you are aware of the intended use of the words you are using.
But then again you also unironically give money to a anime avatar with the hope you'll find love, so i don't think you paid much attention in school

>> No.49095432

>>49095246
More like EN bitches, Mori, Ame, Kronii, Irys and now Fauna lmao

>> No.49095439

>>49091781
I didn't delete my comment, I can still see it on my machine. Seems my thoughts weren't up to the standards of mindless 1% bait.

>> No.49095440

>>49093607
If this ends with a Tempus collab, then saplings have truly lost. They better have an exit plan ready.

>> No.49095442

>faufau shits on league of lesbians
>catalog is flooded with antis
Good to see your average leaguefag is still a 13 year old SEAnig

>> No.49095443

>>49095020
lmao that’s grim

>> No.49095451

>>49095408
Kronii saw that Fauna is clearly more popular/liked than her these days and crab bucketed her down.

Mori also crab buckets down everyone she hangs with. It didn't work with Kiara so they stopped talking.

>> No.49095461 [DELETED] 

>>49095319
>>49094756
>>49095209
Can you explain what's wrong with her PL?

>> No.49095463

>>49095350
LOL, LMAO even if this is your assurance

>> No.49095472

>>49094644
>Kronii is a cute pretend doomer gf
>Mori takes her on a spa trip
>comes back with a series of yabs
>completely ruins her image

>Fauna is a cute pretend mommy gf
>Morified Kronii visits her at home
>comes back with her first yab
you are here
>????

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>>49094756
>PL
kurwa?

>> No.49095519

>>49094670
Because her ASMRs aren't GFE? Oh but you never listened to one. Also her streams are about chilling by making some factories in Minecraft, and never swearing. She's not Rushia. Her merch isn't sexy neither.
>fauna feels extra-fake as a person
Lmao she's getting backlash by unicorns for being too sincere right there. You can't be more wrong.

>> No.49095534

>>49095461
Do your reps for once in your life

>> No.49095535

>>49094006
She prefers onee san over mommy and she said that often early on but I think people just assigned her the mother role anyways.

Her merch is usually pretty reasonably priced but the shipping costs have been really scuffed the last 4-8 months for holomerch.

>> No.49095563

>>49094714
>girl creates parasocial content
>grooms parasocial fans
>suddenly tells the parasocial fans she groomed to fuck off
>WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE ANYONE COULD BE MAD AT HER FOR THIS
Sure you can't really be this stupid, can you? You're just trolling right?

>> No.49095564

>>49092167
It's honestly a western women EN culture thing. They've been so inculcated by western streamer influences that they forget they were meant to have fun and keep things jovial. Fauna dropped the ball and could have simply leaned more heavily into her character lore by making saplings her children or babies or anything other than what she said. This is one of those things that make JP superior.
She has a lot to learn and I think anyone else watching should learn from her mistake.
Imagine yourself as manager/staffsan. What sort of discussion do you have with Fauna?
How does she get herself out of this hole she dug herself into? Does she ignore it and move on? Does she make an acknowledgment of how insensitive it came across and reassures her fanbase in a meaningful way?

>> No.49095577

>>49095408
Kronii is a disgusting dyke feminist that used to like tweets like "All men should get castrated before going into politics".

>> No.49095583
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>>49095472
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>> No.49095584

>>49095408
>Kronii convinced her to yass kwee
But why are women so retarded to think this shit works? Every woman that tries to own someone or tries to forcefully teach a lesson always ends up fucking everything up.

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>>49094756
>>ignore her PL
>>fight doxxfags
Man, do i have some bad news for you over like, 9 of the 10 HoloEN girls

This is like that shit with onlyfans and a donated Tesla, but instead of (you) going in on one lump sum, some 5000 of you chip in a little bit, to the same disastrous result

>> No.49095587

>>49091907
I don't get this women, does Fauna think that her fans see her as some actual anime nature fairy, like they are not aware there is a women behind the screen? EN was a mistake. The worst part is long term what's likely to happen is EN will fuck up JP with their stupid behavior because that's what western women do.

>> No.49095590
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49095590

nijicope deflection thread #34
trying to force drama out of this absolute nothingburger
enjoy screaming into a wall while Fauna carries on as usual

>> No.49095606 [DELETED] 

>>49095173
u

>> No.49095609

>>49093021
This is so obviously a management mandated statement I don't know why you bothered bringing it up.

>> No.49095611

>>49091781
He didn't say anything wrong.

>> No.49095614

>>49095451
>Kronii was popular at times
>Fauna the current popular popular holo
>it didn't work on Kiara
Get out of here kekfp

>> No.49095616

>>49092550
Anon can I be your sapling

>> No.49095651

>>49092718
>Doesn't have the Finana or Elira one included
Butthurt Nijisister hands made this.

>> No.49095653

>>49091781
This is just another reminder of how Council is the worst Gen of all Hololive. The most responsible for killing Holo EN. And there were people arguing that Fauna was one of the "good ones".

>> No.49095657

What I'm getting from this is she said "By the following definition of friends, our relationship as Fauna and saplings is different. Not fake, nor bad, but different."
>I don't think so, and I think I try to be myself on stream but you know, if we were friends we might have disagreements, who knows
>there might be things that you would be like, like maybe, the fact that I made 10 servings of curries and you don't eat leftovers is irreconcilable
>Because I want to show you guys only the best side of myself you know
>I think that's best, because I don't want to bring your guys moods down, by showing you, like, a non positive side of me, you know
>But I think for friends its important to open up, show them more of you if you want to be really close

>> No.49095664

>>49091781
I agree on the Tldr, the only difference is that instead of reminding me of a lonely life it annoys me when people talk the obvious thing, thats it.

>> No.49095669

>>49095472
>Morified Kronii
LMAO MY SIDES

>> No.49095670 [DELETED] 

>>49095534
can you point me in the right diction at least

>> No.49095703

"just get out there and make friends, touch grass!" is such a clueless fucking entitled spoiled cunt way of thinking, you dont know what people's lives are like.
-You have an illness and cant leave the house? lol loser
-You have to take care of a relative with an lllness and have to stay home and mind them? lol just touch grass idiot
-You have to work 3 jobs to pay for medical bills? You cant even afford superchats, who cares?

>> No.49095704

>>49095670
the game

>> No.49095709

>>49095121
This is the equivalent to /v/ seeing mobile users referring to themselves as gamers.

>> No.49095721

>>49095583
She's a bad actor destroying HoloEN from the inside
She's friends with Vshojo whores and other western ethots, she hates Hololive and its fan culture, she will milk her holosimps for all they're worth and stick around for the UMG contract but as soon as that dies off she will ditch everything, syphon fans into her RM account and fuck around with the extended Vshojo friend group

>> No.49095724 [DELETED] 

>>49095704
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.49095728

>>49095670
I don't know man, it'll leave you pretty bitter

>> No.49095732

>>49095657
The winning move was to ignore the superchat and say nothing at all.

>> No.49095734

Why would I ever want to view a vtuber as anything more than a form of entertainment? I already have real friends to play games with when I'm not watching streams.

>> No.49095735

>>49095350
Show us where is it written that you have to be parasocial to your viewers, and tell them they're your lovers or friends or make GFE or whatever delusional unicorn cope when you enter Cover inc. Please, thanks.

>> No.49095766
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49095766

I'm trying to envision a world where Fauna, by some horny-doujin artist levels of plot hilarity, wound up with a fan
>Yes sapling, (You) are my chosen love interest
>Even though all (You) are is a slightly different line of text amidst thousands flying by my chat, i want (You)
Like, would all the other cucks just up and say "oh hey, good for him, he won her heart!" or would it be the crabs in a bucket play where they think she has no personal investment in looks, attitude, personality, etc, and she just goes for a person at random like some harlot in a brothel?

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>>49095385
More

>> No.49095796
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>>49095721

>> No.49095812

>>49091781
based

>> No.49095826
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>>49094936
>And EN girls are entertaining.

>> No.49095842

>>49095721
calm your tits sister lol

>> No.49095869

>>49095735
>Show us where is it written that you have to be parasocial to your viewers
It's written in chapter 1 of the book How To Make Money as a Vtuber.

>> No.49095876

>>49095155
Seethe harder, virgin.

>> No.49095883 [DELETED] 

>>49095728
I'm strong anon! I /vt/ give me there strongest rat and I lived

>> No.49095884

>>49095732
disgust is a hard emotion to hide. she just probably had enough and blurted out the quiet part

>> No.49095895

>>49093769
>yes and infact worse
>picrel
>infact no, not at all.
???

>> No.49095951

>>49095670
I've seen your kind, time and time again. Every fleeing man must be caught. Every secret must be unearthed. Such is the conceit of the self-proclaimed seeker of truth. But in the end, you lack the stomach. For the agony you'll bring upon yourself. I trust you've learned your lesson...Inside the archives curiosity could be your cross

>> No.49095976

>>49095721
fucking lmao this is really pathetic.

>> No.49095984

>>49092643
>>49093750
Miko is more than just a girlfriend for 35P https://youtu.be/8e3WLgZS0nQ

>> No.49095990

>>49095883
Just check the archives
Stop being a lazy faggot

>> No.49095999

>>49093202
He hated the tribe.

>> No.49096006

>Lie to your fanbase and pretend to be their friend/gf to milk as much money as possible from lonely retarded men

or

>Be honest about how you feel about streamer/audience relations so people know where you stand and aren't being intentionally misled in an effort to milk as much money as possible

Somehow the latter is worse

>> No.49096007

>>49091781
I just don't fucking understand this girls. Does Fauna really think the stable guy with a beautiful long term gf is buying her fucking voice packs? Who the fuck does she think is buying her overpriced shit. Seriously look at her merch, 100 dollars for chopsticks and a bento box, 100 fucking dollars, does she think the guy with loving gf is the person buying that? No, that guy fucks his gf and then they spend the weekend having fun, his oshi is his gf, which he can touch and talk to and plan a life with. Do this women really picture THAT guy going "oh yeah let me spend money on this fuckinh anime voice pack". You know what, THAT is delusional, Fauna fans are not some awesome dude with his gf, sitting down to watch a stream. Fauna fans are some loser otaku who has at least cry himself to sleep a couple of times THAT is who is buying overpriced shit. Of course they know Fauna is not their friend or their gf or whatever the fuck. Yeah because happy guys with gfs are the ones throwing red superchats to hear an egirl with an anime mask sneeze. Please get real. Same goes for girl like Kronii, Ame, Mori, Finana and a lot of EN chuubas with the delusional of who their fanbase is. Hey lady, guess what, yes it's the loser otaku. They buy voice packs, they throw money at anime girls, they watch your stream of you talking about your day. Man fuck EN.

>> No.49096039

>>49095951
>mfw the fallen leaves tell a story

>> No.49096052

>>49096006
The correct option is to be parasocial with your fanbase but don't take it too far.

>> No.49096053

>>49095735
>go work at apple
>use android phone
>what the fuck? why are people angry at me? this wasn't in my contract!!!
you're autistic, anon, sorry you had to find out this way

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>>49094756
You get what you fucking deserve

>> No.49096060

>>49095826
They abso-fucking-lutely are. All holoEN girls are entertaining and fun to watch. The way Ina is entertaining is not the same as Bae, but they're both good streamers.

>> No.49096064

>>49095766
there are big names in the anime, music, videogame industry etc who are fans of vtubers.
If you cant imagine a scenario where a vtuber ends up with them you're a retard and so are they for saying they wont/cant/shouldnt date a fan

>> No.49096068

>>49094753
this. marine was saying "I don't have the right to be your only happiness source, I'm not good enough" in response to a dude telling her she literally-is that to him.

Fauna's response was to a guy asking if she sees saplings as friends or simps (like literally it asked that), that's way more broad brush and broad-philosophy scope, than Marine having a guy saying he physically shuts down when she isn't streaming and relies on her to function.

>> No.49096072

>>49095173
After what fauna pulled I honestly have no hope for EN3

>> No.49096117

>>49094122
>girlfriend roleplay ASMR and sell girlfriend ERP voicepacks
im not membered, but dont think has explicitly done 'girlfriend' ASMR, anon if you see her as GFE thats your own choice but why get angry when someone doesnt?

>> No.49096134

>>49094462
Romanians.

>> No.49096136

>>49095585
Is that Syd?

>> No.49096143

>>49095951
Based and Villhelm-pilled

>> No.49096161

>>49096007
Chat gpt, summarize, locate and link reference sources, reflect on summary in light of references, summarize again and read it in morgan freeman's voice

>> No.49096197

Funniest thing in all of this is not like the fans demand some extra steps from them. It's literally just know who your audience is, and be mindful. But no, even that is apparently "too much work" and twitter trannies that swarmed this thread already act like you are being unreasonable for asking JUST THAT ONE THING from a person that gets paid hansomely to entertain you a few hours a week. Actually insane behavior.

>> No.49096200

>>49096117
lul, buddy she does joi.

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>>49095790

>> No.49096235

>>49096007
you're projecting your failure on others when a ton of Holo fans are as normie as it gets
also saying no one will buy overpriced bento boxes when people will pay out of the ASS for sneakers or handbags as long as it has their beloved brand/a celebrity they like signed off on it, is just the stupidest statement in this thread

>> No.49096248

>>49095585
what's her name bro?

>> No.49096281

>>49094286
literally all falseflags.

>> No.49096292

>>49093550
>expecting anything good from EN
You onlybhave yourself to blame. I hope AI vtubers get more popular.

>> No.49096300

>>49096006
>Lie to your fanbase and pretend to be their friend/gf to milk as much money as possible from lonely retarded men
Yes. Keep up with the illusion, continue doing your job, nobody complains, nobody is upset, the good times continue and in the end everybody gets what they want.

There. This is how the latter is worse.

>> No.49096306

>>49096117
nta but I don't distinguish if ASMR is specifically GFE or not, it's a rather parasocial thing to do unless she is just crinkling paper over the mic the entire time or just reading the dictionary in a low whisper.

>> No.49096304

>>49096200
elaborate futher, how explicit?

>> No.49096329

>>49096248
Joe Mama

>> No.49096331

>>49096235
>also saying no one will buy overpriced bento boxes when people will pay out of the ASS for sneakers or handbags as long as it has their beloved brand/a celebrity they like signed off on it, is just the stupidest statement in this thread
Kek. You've got some extremely delusional denial there.

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>>49094874
I refer you to this >>49096068 Sapling.
Because Marine wasn't giving a blanket response to everyone who gosling's her. She was referring to folks who legitimately can't have happiness when she's not around, as she feels she's not worthy of that level of devotion from folks.

>> No.49096346

>>49094572
I swear to god, this dumbass community and their "kayfabe" fixation.
No, retards, it's just annoying for any streamer to suddenly talk about how ruthlessly sociopathic they feel toward their fan community. And doubly annoying because this mind virus has infected NPCs so that they think it's a normal human attitude.
Fans try hard to make a welcoming community that creates meme content and supports these streamers, and now it's en vogue to call them mentally ill and tell them to get a life. Which might be fair enough if the streamer started out that way, but they generally encourage the fan community until suddenly turning on it for no apparent reason other than possibly getting one guy'd by a single commentator.

>> No.49096364

>shitpost like >>49096093 instantly deleted
>all these bait threads kept up

>> No.49096375

>>49096060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

>> No.49096390

>>49096006
If she was gonna put her money where her mouth is about how she really feels? Shut off superchats. Cancel memberships.

She doesn't want attachment? Then don't give fans an avenue to shower her with praise and love and money. Somehow, I get the feeling she will do none of those things and is very far from doing so.

>> No.49096399

>>49094587
>hobby
HOBBY, ANON WANKING OFF TO ANIME WOMAN ISNT A HOBBY. you are not doing anything constructive, creative or interesting your watching an anime woman.

>> No.49096402

>>49096064
>(You) and a big name talent are on the same level for dating a popular vtuber
So we're clearly entering levels of deranged reserved for Jodie Foster's fans

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>>49094422
Based. My exact thought. The amount of seething answers you get just shows how hurtful truth can be. I just found unicorns annoying, now I just hate them.
>>49095348
>Boohoo we can't make friend
>So Fauna must call me her friend or she's a bitch
kys

>> No.49096423

>>49094644
Of course it's her fucking fault. This is what happens when a malignant tumor isn't excised in its infancy.

>> No.49096443

>>49095440
The only real exit plan is learning JP that is not gonna happen for 99% of them.

>>49096235
>bento box with Fauna face on it is just like a Prada bag
Least delusional sapling.

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>>49096216

>> No.49096492

>>49096390
She never said she doesn't want attachment, she said that the stream/fan relationship isn't a real friendship

>> No.49096498

>>49096335
>She was referring to folks who legitimately can't have happiness when she's not around, as she feels she's not worthy of that level of devotion from folks.
Did you watch/read what Fauna said?
>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.

>> No.49096510

>>49096390
The definition of hobby is simply "an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure."

>> No.49096517

She acknoweldged that she has a relationship with her fans but it's not specifically friendship. Anyone trying to say anything else is a complete fucking schizo who needs to GSH.

>> No.49096535

>>49091781
This whole debacle made me realize im a full blown unicorn. Thanks fauna

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>>49096364
mods gotta add variety to their twitter account some how

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>>49095121
anon same people who see fauna as their girlfriend

>> No.49096560

>>49096443
yes, both are equally worthless in the end and you can do with a cheaper replacement.
you pay for the status symbol, of a 'fan' or a 'fashionable person'

>> No.49096568 [DELETED] 

>>49095670
I
know you think you want to know,
except you
totally don't.
Of course, you could
go do some reps, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Also, Fauna's really bad, but Mumei's definitely the worst in the bunch. Even worse than the one that acts like a total karen cunt.

>> No.49096586

>>49091781
Honestly, not as schizo sounding as I would have initially thought. About as well thought out as such a comment could be.

>> No.49096597

>>49096510
woops, meant for
>>49096399

>> No.49096601

>>49094422
Holy fucking based and return to tradition pilled

>> No.49096602

>>49091781
I wish I could change EN for CH. The wrong branch got canned.

>> No.49096615

https://files.catbox.moe/7gp6af.mp3

>> No.49096635

>>49091781
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.49096636

>>49096586
It's schizo because she never attacked parasocialism.

>> No.49096644

>>49096235
Anon normal people call those people retarded too, plus they are parasocial as well

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49096648

Can't wait for the ASMR, lads. Talk about perfect timing following this debacle.

>> No.49096651

Parasocial schizos will kill themselves, but your livers will be forever stuck with 2% Now go redeem your $10 gift card.

>> No.49096656

>>49095563
>being groomed by anime woman

surely you cant be that insecure right anon?

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>>49096498
We know from how she entered into this conversation, starting from the premise that you shouldn't be friends with streamers, that this is not at all what Fauna was really getting at, Sapling. It was a more backhanded way for her to say "Parasocial fucks!"

>> No.49096668

>>49095766
There was some romcom webcomic where a menhera idol got on stage, pointed at a random guy in the crowd holding up a "marry me" sign, said yes, and went through with dating/marrying him.

>> No.49096675

>>49096586
yet it still got deleted

>> No.49096682

>>49096517
This. Even that wall of text retard who posted in the comments missed that point. Why do you care what specific flavor of word she uses for the parasocial relationship when she acknowledges it's real and not a bad thing.

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>>49096470

>> No.49096717

>>49096517
Thanks Kaela.

>> No.49096719

>>49096615
Christ. It just gets worse

>> No.49096723

>>49096390
might as well go the route of a fleshtuber if she isn't sticking with the kayfabe. but she won't, she is dependent on lonely weebs cause she can't hold her shit streaming just gameplay.

>> No.49096738

>>49096568
>Even worse than the one that acts like a total karen cunt.
How can someone be worse than Kiara and Mori?

>> No.49096752

>>49096402
lol Fauna isnt that popular and even less popular now

>> No.49096779

>>49096492
So, what, she wants viewers to get attached to her and love hanging with her and giving her money, but not think of her as like a friend, so presumably not a pretend GF either if even just "friend" is super verboten to her. So what is she then. A paradox at best, hypocrite otherwise.

>> No.49096790

>>49096675
I see many other significantly more schizo things from before and after that one was posted.
From that I assume that guy got cold feet and deleted it.

>> No.49096807

>>49096666
>we know the thing she explained isn't true because you could have multiple interpretations before she explained it
Satan confirmed to be behind this post. That explains the bad faith.

>> No.49096815

>>49094756
what did her PL do? I know she did ASMR but that's about it

>> No.49096829

>>49091781
Where even is this? I cannot find it anymore, did it get purged?

>> No.49096831

So even fauna broke kayfable?

Man, EN is hopeless now.

>> No.49096834

>>49096666
That's not where she started, but that's where her message ended up. I don't see how that's a bad thing.

>> No.49096847

>>49096602
HoloSwitzerland... Maybe one day.

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>>49095121
Their literal job is to be anime girls.

>> No.49096880

>>49096779
What she feels towards Northernlion is how she assumes you feel towards her.

>> No.49096882

>>49096517
couldnt she have at least likened it to a friendship? “I FEEL like saplings are my friends!”. just to appease everybody. im still baffled why she responded to the SC.

>> No.49096890

https://youtu.be/g4utCmQz8Z0?t=49

It's like i'm hanging out with Fauna in her room as (not) friends.

>> No.49096903 [DELETED] 

>>49096738
I'd tell you, but I get banned every time I mention how her ********* went on and ***** a bunch of ********* *****, and then she ******* the ***** he *****.

I mean, I guess Mori also collabbed with Trash Taste, but at least there was no **** or ******** there.

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49096927

>angry Kronies
>twitterfags trying to get a epic screenshot for bvtm
>nijiniggers playing both sides
>homobeggars attacking another one of the cgdct girls
Nice thread

>> No.49096947

>>49096790
As the person who originally screenshotted it, I think that's what happened to. I brought a lot of attention to a post he might have thought would only be seen by a few.

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49096954

>>49096696
Captcha: WWYD4

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49096958

>>49096790
Nope, didn't self delete.

>> No.49096999

reminder that you guys are just an echo chamber. Nothing will change, fauna will still be the top EN streamer, while you guys just jerk each other off.

>> No.49097000

>>49096882
Yeah not even considering the actual answer, which truthfully I don't think is that big of a deal.
I'm absolutely BAFFLED at why she answered the question, she's usually so careful with obvious troll superchats and just says 'Thank you xxx' and moves on. Extraordinarily stupid thing for her of all people to do. I'm not sure if her viewership will actually take a hit, I kind of doubt it, but I have no clue what would overcome her to think this was a good idea.

>> No.49097010

>>49096752
>even less popular now
I look forward to seeing your tears fill up /#/ from this point on.

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>>49096958
>self delete
>claim it wasnt a self delete

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>> No.49097018

It all seems like a bad dream to me. Are there any saplings who feel this way?

>> No.49097035

>>49094422
There's no problem, we have normal lives and have sex with anime women for fun. Fucking the slags irl would be a downgrade.

>> No.49097039

>>49096999
This is the largest vtuber community, even twitter is more of an echo chamber when talking about vtubers

>> No.49097064 [DELETED] 

>>49096568
>>49095990
>>49095951
I'm getting somewhere. Iearned the owl a whore

>> No.49097066

>>49097000
Everyone slips up at some point, anon, no ones perfect

>> No.49097100

>>49096999
Yeah Mori, Ame and Kronii haven't had their viewership drop by 50+% the past year since they started being cunts right. Totally just coincidence bro.

>> No.49097113 [DELETED] 

Does Fauna even read comments?

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>>49097066
I want to believe she is, there's still time to fix it

>> No.49097130

>>49096872
They can never be 2D.
Their job is to larp like a Disney World actor. People will always prefer the real thing though.

>> No.49097138

>>49096890
She's such a hypocrite

>> No.49097140

>>49097066
I suppose so. Could have been worse when looking at it that way at least. She clearly still cares at least, just not in the way some thought she did.

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>hobby is fun and relaxing
>desperate trannies and attention seekers come in and threaten to kill themselves if a vtuber doesn't follow their exact instructions
you people need to leave, no one wants you here

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>>49096954

>> No.49097151

>>49097039
>This is the largest vtuber community
Anon, there are like 3 EN vtuber communities. That's not saying much.

Fauna will continue doing just as well despite your incessant sobbing. It is what it is.

>> No.49097168

>>49094644
Kronii is unironically the worst EN to talk to in regard to vtubing advice.

>> No.49097182

>>49094816
For what it’s worth, it was Bae who spoke condescendingly towards her chat and talked to them as if they were children. I do feel like Fauna wants the best for people even if she’s a little dumb for even kicking the nest to begin with.

>> No.49097188

>>49097000
The urge to shit on their fans is just too strong, they can only fight it for so long.

>> No.49097194

>>49097018
No but I felt something similar a while ago sorry you're going through it brotha

>> No.49097195

>>49097151
I want her to do well? I just want to be her friend.

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>>49095472
What we're dealing with here is transmissible. If it hops to one of the JP speaking ENs like Kiara or IRyS the main branch could be at risk. The solution is quarantine followed by incineration.

>> No.49097218

>>49097113
She does, you can tell because she skips over some comments when hearting them post stream.

>> No.49097226

>>49094822
Nooooo, unicorns were right again, why does this always happen!

>> No.49097235

>>49097113
She often reads them immediately after the stream.

Which means she likely hasn't seen any of the hate because all of the negative comments came today, once /vt/ heard about what she said and schizos went to say schizo things.

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Can't even say the owl is a whore?! are the jannies simps?

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>>49097150

>> No.49097274

>/vt/ shits on trannies, gays, and coloreds for their crying to vtubers about lack of inclusivity and ignoring their wants
>/vt/ cries to vtubers about lack of inclusivity and ignoring their wants
Too late i realize 4chan is now just a malformed version of SJW shit

>> No.49097277

>>49097235
Hard to say, she definitely may have when she noticed the video has roughly double the comments her vods usually have.

>> No.49097301

>>49097235
>pretending this hasn't been a bump hitting thread consistently since it happened

>> No.49097322

Remember the phrase "just be yourself"? Now if you expect that from a female streamer you're a parasocial fuck that wants to be intimate friends. Her true self is reserved for people that deserve it, not you. Now shut up and enjoy her "best side".

>> No.49097336

>>49097018
I had trouble sleeping last night and I guess it was because I felt horrible after what happened

>> No.49097353

>>49097274
Well, I'm glad you realized it eventually. 99% of people /here/ are no different from the average troon/homobeggar on twitter. Just in a different way.

>> No.49097368

honestly I kind of wish we instituted a eugenics program targeting autism, it'd fix a lot of problems in our current world

>> No.49097375

>>49097151
lol no she won't, not unless she fucking dogezas and modifies/recants at least some of what she said next stream. If she does what Kronii, Ame and Mori all fucking retardedly did, double down and go "yeah no fuck you all I'm right" she will fuck herself over.

What you'll then see is a bunch of fake outrage from posers who care more about looking like they're morally right than the actual topic the question is about come shower her with fake support, but it will last a few weeks and then she'll start dipping just lower and lower.

A bad comment just sticks in the air, it never goes away and diffuses throughout the fandom over time if not fixed from the outset (Botan had such a moment and then immediately retracted it all the next stream).

>> No.49097382

>>49097274
It's been a few years anon. Welcome to Zion.

>> No.49097400

>>49097018
it's brutal how invested I was until I saw this thread.Now i'm doom spiraling while looking for the clip

>> No.49097412

>>49097274
You are now aware that 4chan has been shit since it's creation in 2003, congratulations!

>> No.49097417

>>49096903
lol

>> No.49097416

>>49097010
you never learn >>49097100

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>>49097270

>> No.49097437

>>49097400
>Clip

>> No.49097447

>>49097301
>pretending that Fauna, or any vtuber for that matter, is spending time /here/ and not going to the club and burning sc money on alcohol and male strippers

>> No.49097462

>>49095651
it's a holo-only. If you want nijisanji go make it yourself.

>> No.49097474

>>49097121
I see this image completely different now. It will never be the same. She's so near yet so far

>> No.49097491

>>49097322
>this post
This feels so incredibly forced it has to be astroturfed. What the fuck do you think an idol is?

>> No.49097492

>>49097274
>Trannies want to fuck children and you want to fuck women, really you want the same thing so you're just like trannies
you will never be normal

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>>49097430

>> No.49097508

>>49095173
Fuck off, parasocial encouragement is just an excuse for your delusion, she never promised you to be your friend/wife/girlfriend, if it's the case show it to me, show me where she is saying in all seriousness that's the case.


In first place if all of those that have been hurt by her comment had real friend in their life, they would have understood that none of those vtubers could possibly replace them, they would have understood it's an insult to even consider somebody you have never met in your life to be just like your closest friend you shared so many memories with by hanging out here and there and was there next to you during your worst time.

I dunno what even is the definition of "friend' for this people, but they are completely wrong about it.

>> No.49097515

>>49097447
anon...

>> No.49097525

>>49097375
Tune into /#/ to find out. I have a sneaking suspicion her ccv might drop by about 10 viewers. And, hey, good riddance. Fuck 'em.

>> No.49097530

>>49097447
>never said anything about that

>> No.49097572

>>49097100
Also just a coincidence that all 3 of them stopped streaming for multiple extended periods of time, right? Or are we gonna ignore that to pretend like /vt/ has any weight at all?

>> No.49097616

>>49097525
Do you not fucking comprehend what I said? I laid out the pattern clearly - you might see a slight dip at most and then an artificial rise from the support from tourists/redditors who want to virtue signal but are not actually-dedicated viewers nor will they be. Then those ones filter out and a slump remains, and if people keep on not forgetting what she said, she'll just keep withering away.

>> No.49097621

>>49097492
>/vt/ has cunnie threads and ERP about what they'd do to Yuko, Gura, Kana, etc
>Even joke about the cum jar
>"It's just a jork!"
Yea you and the tranny would be fighting over the kid before the police arrive

>> No.49097635

>>49094572
This perfectly explains how I feel.

>> No.49097636

>>49097508
https://youtu.be/oGe_-UNTWgY?t=137
it's not like she stepped into the role or anything.

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>>49097502

>> No.49097677

>>49097530
Wait, then what the fuck are you saying?

I'm saying that Fauna has likely not seen much of the dramafagging that's been going on because she probably has better things to do than be /here/.

>> No.49097699

>>49097636
I asked for something serious, not entertainment.

>> No.49097704

>>49097508
>retard ass opinion
>reddit spacing
go back

>> No.49097726

Bet that mario maker guy that took over chat can be her friend.

>> No.49097727

Can you people just make a general for this kind of shit with links and sources and explanations? Do I have to read entire threads to find out what is going on?

>> No.49097729

>>49097525
The most likes I saw on a critque comment on her latest VOD was 61 (last time I checked). So at least that many people were bothered by what she said, we can assume the number is higher though since not everyone is going to go onto YT comments. How much of that will translate into lost viewers, I don't know. I hope it's not a lot.

>> No.49097758

>>49097018
I woke up this morning in an instant and it was my first thought, it sucks

>> No.49097776

>>49097616
That pattern has showed itself only in the following streamers: Kronii, Ame, and Mori.

All of which took massive amounts of unannounced time off, which Fauna has never been one to do. Hell, she literally let us know about this vacation she's going on like a week in advance.

>> No.49097781

>>49097508
Why you fuck write block like this when you actually buy nothing? You don't actually matter.

>> No.49097803

>>49091889
Fpbp

>> No.49097805

>>49097727
>Can you people just make a general for this kind of shit with links and sources and explanations?
the faggot mods on this board would purge those
if this was a 4chan board that could work

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>>49097704
>redditfag tells other redditfag to go back
/vt/, circa 2023

>> No.49097839

>>49097699
>goalposts
She has plenty of coomer asmr where she takes on the role. She chose to play the character, it's not up to you to get to choose who is upset by her dropping character. Anime fauna is dead.

>> No.49097841

>>49097726
I don't see why not, he was the only one watching her according to her

>> No.49097861

>>49097729
>we can assume the number is higher
True, but we can also assume that part of that number is people /here/ who don't watch streams to begin with.

The Ame yab showed this pretty fucking well, half the people who were mad at her back then were arguing against shit she never said because they don't watch streams.

>> No.49097867

>Less and less girls wants to hard commit to unicorn friendly GFE since money is easier to get now
>The ones that do get literally everyone elses dejected unicorn crowd
>They overload her off the bat, thus speeding up the snap
I don't expect unicorns to be logical (if they could, they wouldn't be unicorns), but maybe pace yourselves?

>> No.49097874

>>49094422
...he proclaimed....


On 4chan, of all places.

>> No.49097931

>>49097867
>unicorns
>fauna
dyrbi?

>> No.49097936

>>49097776
Yeah Ina took like 3 months off yet her CCV is actually pretty good still, 2nd highest in EN generally. Gura's bled a lot relative to when she used to get like 30k for doing basically-anything but she is still the #1 and taking long breaks is literally her "new normal."

So, you saying?

>> No.49097942

>>49097677
You said
>because all of the negative comments came today, once /vt/ heard about what she said and schizos went to say schizo things>>49097235
I said
>pretending this hasn't been a bump hitting thread consistently since it happened>>49097301
I haven't slept anon, I have been upset about this the entire time.
I'm the big nijiboogeyman that is just hiding the drama you care about.

>> No.49097969

>>49097776
she'll definitely go back to streaming regularly after the break for sure, Ame, Mori and Kronii absolutely didnt go on an announced break and then slack when they came back with tons of random breaks

>> No.49098004

>>49097931
shitposters refuse to learn the difference between unicorns, gachikoi, and CGDCT enjoyers

>> No.49098010

>>49096831
Rather than breaking kayfabe, it’s more that she tried to be deep and failed spectacularly

>> No.49098020

>>49097417
Friend of the opposite gender, took advantage x1, too young to drink, rib, what they did to you in school lockers x1b, thoracic cage, brassica seeds x2. Assault x3, basketball team from Chicago x2b.

Speak, friend, and enter.

>> No.49098035

>>49094006
>mommy character
literally not true.

>> No.49098037

>>49097969
Fauna frequently takes 3-4 days off and considers them a break and comes back streaming normally. The only anomaly was the Japan trip. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

>> No.49098060

>>49092582
kronii
apparently, they had a "heart-to-heart" which possibly means that kronii convinced fauna that her fans are creeps or some shit
i dunno i don't watch either of them

>> No.49098072

>>49097942
Anon, I was talking about the negative comments on Fauna's vod, not /here/.

There were like 3 negative comments when I went to sleep, and like 5 when I got up next morning. Now, the comment section is flooded *after* /vt/ decided to go flood it.

>> No.49098084

>>49098004
Not their fault considering Unicorns swept all of them under their banner, and now the other 2 act very much like unicorns when they don't have it their way

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man I am seeing so many post that feel ai generated. I couldn't find any membership screenshots.
this is a whole lot of fake outrage over a pretty petty few minutes of a stream. who is coordinating this?

>> No.49098132

>>49097861
you don't have to watch streams to recognize a stupid statement

>> No.49098135

>>49093852
No, fuck you. I want the girls to be relaxed and spontaneous, and that's very difficult with you whinny fucks sperging over every little thing. I hate holobronnies so fucking much.

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Freud was right and saplings have inverted from an Oedipus complex to an Electra complex.

>> No.49098184

>>49098132
Based nonstreamwatcher I kneel

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it would be really funny if someone sent a SC to Kronii about this

>> No.49098236

>>49098119
It's real unfortunately. This is just how people are when the curtain gets pulled back.

>> No.49098237

>>49098072
You know, if it wasn't a big deal, if it was all in /vt/'s head and/or a couple NijiEN falseflaggers spamming, you wouldn't be seeing so many comments about it right on the VOD maybe. The fans wouldn't care to comment on it if it didn't matter to them. Not sure if it's a chicken or egg type thing, or maybe a self-fulfilling prophecy type thing, but it is a real thing.

>> No.49098257

>>49098209
Kronii would laugh, invite Vesper over, then deepthroat him while talking on the mic
The girl is so beyond salvation it's a miracle anyone shows up to her streams

>> No.49098258

>>49098135
Why don't you watch any of the numerous relaxed and spontaneous whores talk about their dildo collection and get off my lawn? The truth is that's not what you want, you want to ruin something that offends you.

>> No.49098263

>>49093852
You're right, you don't.

But, if you were to chase the radio jock down and ask "h-hey, am I just another listener or do you care about me in particular?" you would definitely need a reality check, which is what happened here, because Fauna didn't know the dude who sent the sc is a dramabaiter.

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>>49098119
yeah i like sending snails

>> No.49098274

>>49097508
most streamers are parasocial, retard, they care about the attention of strangers, and want to get people to care about a stranger.

>> No.49098293

>>49097636
This was made by a former Shondo mod who she cut ties with for being a creepy groomer. Not why Fauna still interacts with him.

>> No.49098313

>>49098209
I’m going to send Irys an identical SC next stream to see how she react. Wonder how many of those girls can keep the image up

>> No.49098398

>>49098119
sapling here. it's a nothingburger. there's not even lettuce, tomato or onions. No pickles. No mayo or mustard. Literally just two pieces of bread with nothing in between them.

A dedicated Fauna anti has using her to shitpost for weeks to try to turn people against her, and this time he finally found something that catches the average catalognigger's eyes.

>> No.49098399

>>49098209
Literally last stream Kronii got hung up on a single comment all stream
It's really easy to get under her skin, your only hurdle is her mod team of 10+ yesmen

>> No.49098404

>>49098313
IRyS actually likes her fans

>> No.49098406

>>49098237
Anon, that's the thing.

Most of the negative comments are from accounts that were made literally today. There are only a handful of actual fans commenting that they felt bad about what Fauna said. Most of the negative comments are people trying to stir shit from /here/.

>> No.49098415

>>49096615
What a disingenuous cunt

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>>49098119
Im real but my friendship for fauna isn't

>> No.49098430

>>49097400
https://youtu.be/fgCHZbylmus?t=12123
about 3:22:00 for phonefags

>> No.49098481

>>49098415
Nah you're just retarded.

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>>49098020
wtf

>> No.49098540

>>49098430
I feel like I am going crazy. I listened to what she said like 3 times over, could not find any issues, and came here only to find so many people acting like Fauna just shot them.

What the fuck am I missing?

>> No.49098548

>>49093852
this. people are really into forcing up a contrived controversy over shit that literally doesn't matter or have any timely socioeconomic relevance, someone just decided to start talking about it a lot for some reason. politics is full of contrived, fucking pretend make believe bullshit problems getting in the way of real ones too.

it's like humanity is losing the ability to discern what matters or not, and making a big deal acting like you're the Rosa Parks or MLK Jr of vtubing for going "touch grass incels" while supposedly being a consumer or producer of the medium is so fucking inane a thing to "make a stand" over I think loud anti-unicorns/anti-parasocials are far more fucking lame than the actual ones.

>> No.49098581

>>49098274
Fauna has never said a negative thing about parasociality.
She states that she herself is parasocial for the egg.
This is literally where this entire train of thought Fauna had came from. Fauna likes streamers. She got starstruck when Rubberross showed up in chat. She was flabbergasted when both Chiblee and Kate mentioned her. She even gets nervous around the egg clipper that was collab begging in chat. She didn't want to collab with Neuro despite clearly liking Neuro and Vedal being perfectly open to it.
She does not want to be friends with any of those people. She might have at some point, but this is all to say that she doesn't want you as a friend as much as she doesn't want Northernlion as a friend.

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>>49097148
>desperate trannies
Im a straight white male

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>>49096615
https://files.catbox.moe/7gp6af.mp3

>> No.49098601

>>49094422
if i every vtuber fan improves himself these bitches will stop making money

>> No.49098639

>>49098540
Because /uuu/ isn't up so mentally ill saplings didn't have a place to rant and ended up in the catalog. I told you fuckers to keep a thread up.

>> No.49098648

>>49098497
As fucked up as it gets, friend.

>> No.49098666

>>49098119
Bad actors trying to shoot down one of Hololive's rising stars. Pretending this is on the same level of better yourselves.

Kronii, Ame and Mori all retaliated against an angry chat when they said to touch grass compared to Fauna breaking kayfabe to remind people she's just a youtube.

I know unicorns who may get their feeling hurt from this exist, but they all drop her day one after the doxx leaving me to believe it just ninji discord.

>> No.49098668

>>49098639
>saplings

>> No.49098689

>>49098119
What if we train chatGPT 4 on anti posts and deflection threads?
We could seamlessly integrate it into /vt/ and nobody would notice

>> No.49098736

>>49098639
before this even happened, for the last couple of weeks there have been fauna bait threads posted consistently in off hours. this just feels like more of the same to me.

>> No.49098752

>>49096615
so can I be her friend or not im comfnused?

>> No.49098764

>>49097018
no, fauna is still by far the most entertaining vtuber to me and anyone mad at her for speaking facts is a plague

>> No.49098771

>>49098668
There's a lot of shitposters here yes but there are also saplings here because they can't discuss this anywhere else.

>> No.49098791

>>49096399
they're funny sometimes. is comedy not creative? most video games aren't constructive, is that not a hobby either?

>> No.49098799

>>49098601
This is by far and away the single biggest myth unicorns and gachikois tell themselves.

Guys. Just because you get a girlfriend, start working out, and get a couple of friends does not mean you won't care about your hobbies anymore.

If it does, it means you never liked your hobbies to begin with.

>> No.49098803

>>49098752
Depends on how much you're willing to superchat

>> No.49098807

>>49098581
I think this is the real problem. She thinks she is like them. But she is not.

>> No.49098839

>>49098752
Please see >>49096517
Nowhere did she dunk on parasocial relationships in her rant. She just thinks, specifically, that the relationship between you and her isn't friendship and that you should take care of yourself before anything else.

>> No.49098856

>The stream where she talked about how much better Dota 2 was than LoL and how she'd try to play it
>Ruined by schizo sapling on air
>Ruined again by another schizo sapling off-air
JUST LOAD UP DOTA AND LOCK IN WD, i swear your team will carry you to easy W's

>> No.49098859

>>49098540
>asmr mommy tells fags to get a life
nothing wrong with it? Maybe for normies lmao. cucklings in shambles.

>> No.49098869

>>49098481
Keep simping like a good ATM, cuck

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I wasn't ready for this anon.

>> No.49098929

>>49098884
>>49098884

>> No.49098957

>>49098884
Not even a new IP.

>> No.49098959

>>49098839
What is friendship? Watching hololive is unironically more intimate than any relationship I had that didn't involve regular sex.

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