/fig/ - Fighting Idols global

[Anonymous No.]

Trust me my dad is the dev - Edition

>What is /fig/?
/fig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss idol vtubers who play fighting games, under large companies or indies, as well as to discuss fighting games about Hololive and other vtubers in general.

>Idol Showdown wiki
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Idol_Showdown

>Glossary of Fighting Terms
https://glossary.infil.net/

>fgg pastebin
https://pastebin.com/ZRTZV0XM

>Hololive Smash Clone fangame
https://twitter.com/AoiSora_3D

>Fighting Idols
Coyote
https://www.youtube.com/@Coyote_KemoV
Coyo from Kemono Friends, likes Tekken.
Shimada Tiger
www.twitch.tv/shimadatiger
Genki Tiger who likes SFV, SFVI and Guilty Gear

>How do I git gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm9IECEnKHQ

>Twitter Hashtags for Character Tech

Aki: #ISD_AKI
Ayame: #ISD_AYA
Botan: #ISD_BOT
Coco: #ISD_COC
Fubuki: #ISD_FUB
Korone: #ISD_KOR
Sora: #ISD_SOR
Suisei: #ISD_SUI

>Tiermaker
https://tiermaker.com/create/hololive-180517

>tigers
>https://www.twitch.tv/zoolifetigers (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

Other useful threads
>>>/vt/hfz/
>>>/vt/ybc/
>>>/vt/fps
>>>/vt//mogu/ + /doog/
>>>/vt/tsunx/
>>>/vt/choc/

[Anonymous No.]

>5 embeds now

[Anonymous No.]

Players who use Miko assists are whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>It is useful for opening up opponents that sit tight.
>does not crossup
>does not hit overhead
>it's unsafe ON HIT at almost any height

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>>49010932
Always do the opposite of what the move list says

[Anonymous No.]

wtf

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>>49011309
They really added IS to Mizuumi

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>>49011309
>we can't figure out why
You'd think it's just because it has a lower hitbox that comes out 5 frames later but I also want to think they're smart enough to test at different ranges. Anyways that's certainly why it won't fucking combo on crouchers.

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>>49011495
That's one really fucked up hitbox if the lower part comes out 5 frames later even at point blank

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>>49011676
Actually what I said makes no fucking sense anyways so ignore it, it would be that the lower hitbox having much lower hitstun.

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>>49010379
this but also botans who use kanatan

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>coco buttplug puts the enemy in perfect range for her insta grab super
you just need to stagger it for a bit and you can hit it pretty consistently
also works 100% on bots
I'm starting to love this janky ass grappler

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/zortoise/status/1572985399856992256
In-game frame data meter should be mandatory for all future fighting games

[Anonymous No.]

You know I was just thinking, this game doesn't have damage scaling does it?

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>>49012566
anon??

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>>49009816
I hope this tier post is a joke aiming at putting ridicule on the person who made it. But I get the impression it isn't because why make that the thumbnail?

[Anonymous No.]

if the game gets a charge character I'm instantly jumping ship because it doesn't mean dealing with 22 inputs anymore

[Anonymous No.]

I hit someone with a backwards 5A like some classic SFII jank.

[Anonymous No.]

This is the smelliest thread on /vt/

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>>49012566
Every match would take 7 seconds if that was the case

[Anonymous No.]

I think I discovered why armor moves are so fucking shit now, and why projectile armor also sucks ass. There's only three projectiles in the game that disappear when hit with a projectile armor move. Yubi, the sniper and Fubuki's projectile. Every other projectile will stop you in your track when you use an armor move. In the case of armor moves, any attack that hits you will lock you in place, running out the active frames of the armor. Only those three specific moves won't lock you when you're using an armored move.

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>>49012632
Botan's 214+L gunshot hits behind. Although, sometimes people's feet hurtbox randomly disappears and it doesn't connect in totally normal neutral situations. So it's perfectly balanced!

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>>49012607
It's was the only OC so far and i don't think the person postin it in their place intended for it to be serious

OC art > OC edit > tiermaker > generic art

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>>49012372
That'll be 2.99 USD please

[Anonymous No.]

Any anon already cracked and reverse-engineered the games code? We need a community patch that removes every HoloStar reference from the game

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>>49013007
>Idol Showdown got rollback before T7 and possibly T8 did

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>>49013221
>Don't ask him for shit

[Anonymous No.]

Are the sprites all made by the same people? I feel like the 4 on top have a noticeable inferior quality than the 4 on bottom.

[Anonymous No.]

I still want to main Ayame but I will wait till people start hating botan more

[Anonymous No.]

Is Aki good?

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>>49014352
She won the first tourneys and is the dev oshi so yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>49014352
Contender for best char.

[Anonymous No.]

Have any of the hololive girls beat virtual frontier (on stream)?

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>>49012626
are you saying you'll stop playing the game or do you not know what "jumping ship" means?

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>>49013526
its a bunch of different people doing the art work which is why some sprites just look weird compared to others.

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>>49013526
did anyone else notice that they're grouped by hair color?

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>>49014478
Kaela is trying her god damn best to get past stage 2 as fubuki only

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>>49013526
Ayame sprite is the biggest shit.
I never seen a sprite look completely towards the enemy opponent like it does.

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>>49015058
Small indie Game pls understand

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>>49014958
whoever did the character portraits needs to give up on art

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>>49013221
Tekken rollback is 3. Read well.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Tekunobitsu/status/1655590000623247361?s=20
So cosplay 7 are all fighting game references which is pretty neat

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>>49012372
Someone's making a hololive smash clone as well? Neat.

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>>49015195
I think the character portraits are fine but they clash with the rest of the assets as they look like american comic book versions of anime girls when everything else is just anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>49015220
So Fubuki is Ky, Botan is Noel, I don't know who Korone is, Suisei is Sion, Ayame is Baiken, Aki is Morrigan, Sora is Athena and I don't know who Coco is.

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>>49015058
bruh

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>>49014930
NTA but the ship in this instant can mean the character he is currently playing, with the implication that he will be jumping to the charge character.
Why is it always the ones with poor comprehension skills that try calling out others for 'bad English'.

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>>49015401
I actually was thinking Aki was Phonon but morrigan sounds about right. Coco is potemkin

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>>49015401
I heard Korone is M.Bison
and Coco is Potemkin

[Anonymous No.]

>>49015508
>>49015524
Oh yeah, she looks like old Pot. Korone being Bison also makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49015004
she just finished it

[Anonymous No.]

>>49015524
>Korone is M.Bison
The color scheme is quite far away from Bison's so I'm not sure I but that. Not sure who else it might be though.

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>>49015220
>Botan is Noel.
No wonder I have an instinctual hate for this char.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49015220
No wonder why it remind me of Blazblue half of the colors are references to ArcSys games.

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>>49015746
The more I look at it, it really is the wrong red, and emphasizing the cape wouldn't make that much sense, plus her gameplay is wildly different even compared to the Alpha version.

[Anonymous No.]

>played fighting games for years with my internet friends, could never reach even 10% wins no matter how much I practiced, and even then most wins were due to luck or mashing
>in fact I could never figure out how to practice effectively beyond grinding basic combos
>kind of understood a few mentality concepts but was never able to apply them against other people
>never got the hang of reading mistakes to punish them or understanding frame data
Sorry but I just can't. At least I've accepted that I'll never be worth anything at fighting games, maybe in my next life I'll have better luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016208
don't think
Just play
chances are most people suck as much as you do

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>>49015391
yeah they really don't fit

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>>49015220
Coming back to this there's also other references that I didn't get. Fubuki has Oga and one of her alt models, Botan I don't know either of them, Korone is Sonic and her alt outfit, Suisei is the orange thighs and Toko, Ayame is Shion and Aqua, Aki is Mel and her alt, Sora is her original and Mito and Coco I believe it's Watame and Melody.

[Anonymous No.]

82FD132B
eu

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>>49016208
This is probably one of the better times to learn. The combos aren't hard unless you're playing Coco and the neutral is very grounded so there's no crazy air mobility to worry about. And if you're having trouble with something, ask questions.

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>>49015391
>>49016390
I think it's cool. It gives the game a distinctive look and personality. I think they were going for a edgy look as opposed to cute.
The character portraits in GGXX didn't really matched the sprites either.
Considering the dev team's source of inspiration, I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.

[Anonymous No.]

how do you play neutral in this game

[Anonymous No.]

why do you guys have /choc/ linked

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>>49015746
>>49016188
Looks like that Kill la Kill chick. But she's not a fighting game character...
Yukiko maybe?

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>>49017080
>It gives the game a distinctive look
yeah: a bad one
>and personality
yeah: a bad one
>I think they were going for a edgy look as opposed to cute
whatever they were going for they fucked it up

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/StreetFighter/status/1655694066041122817?s=20
You think any of them will try streaming this? I know zeta streamed the closed beta once

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>>49017921
Only those who care about playing online, so almost none of them.

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>>49017921
Oh boy now I can play another 2 hours before dropping it until they go f2p.
>my face when I had more time in the first day IS was out than the entire second CBT of SF6

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>>49017406
The only place i found where they talk about Coyo
Whats the name of the Kemono Friends general? I only found Tekken Tuesdays posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018119
The KemoV general is the Coyo general. They try talking about the others but Coyo is by far the most popular here for obvious reasons.

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>>49017895
nah

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>>49018199
I will change it for next thread unless latina girls are into anime fighting games like their boys? I really don't know

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>>49018101
I cannot blame you SF6 feels like a magininally better SF5 which is complete shit and SF6 somehow looks worse than SF5, IS is jut more fun even with its jank.

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>>49017921
Korone will definitely play the game but not sure about the open beta

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>>49016208
You wouldn't be mashing if you really practiced hard. Are you sure you're practicing enough?

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>>49018417
I know exactly one BR vtuber that is into hololive but she doesnt like fighting games, in fact she hasnt played Holocure
I dont watch spic vtubers too much drama. Avoid Nimu at all costs.


Also add Luna next or Brazil will burn too

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>>49017921
>only the same 8 characters from previous betas and not the full roster
Oh for fuck's sake the game is less than a month away please let people have some fun

[Anonymous No.]

Should I tier whore Idol Showdown and just pick Botan/Ayame? I'm tired of trying so hard with Coco and getting nowhere

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>>49018490
I like SFV a lot better and I thought SFV was utter and absolute shit until a year ago.

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>>49009816
>Previous

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>>49019274
Nah. There's no point tryharding at a kusoge.
This game is probably not going to see nearly enough support to justify actually trying to get good.
Unironically play who you like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019274
whore

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>>49019447
I feel like the opposite is true. No point in tryharding at popular AAA games since the industry pros have so much legacy knowledge that there's no reason to compete on those levels.
On smaller levels with smaller audiences seems like more opportunity for fun and new faces.

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>>49016473
>Botan I don't know either of them,
Her first one is Aloe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019786
You're not a new face you're a no face.

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>>49018417
I met a couple of girls who are into 2D fighting games, and they are pretty good but they wouldn't be good streamer material, they engross themselves super hard in the games. Also one of them did used to get super violent if she lost badly.

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>>49019883
Oh yeah, completely missed that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019928
>used to get super violent if she lost badly
fucking hot, imagine mating pressing her while she seethes and tries to hit you

[Anonymous No.]

>switch from my main stick with Seimitsu to my other stick with Sanwa to see if it helps with this BR input reader
>Sora combos still cancer
The bigger actuation distance makes 22s less horrendous at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>49009816
>Discuss Idol vtubers
But what is an idol?

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>>49020302
As per words of a friend, it wasn't worth rumao

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/sakura_yukkeeee/status/1655469405764218881?t=TL8CqgXp7wB35MYEhUKeZQ&s=19

Meterless Aki combo that does decent damage and builds a shit ton of resources including full assist gauge.

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>>49020364
A miserable pile of secrets, but enough talk.
Have at you!

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>>49020349
I've given up trying to implement 22s into combos with this garbage ass input reader. Unironically harder to do these convos with 22s in this game than it is to just use fucking 623s.

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>>49020517
it would simply be different if it were me

[Anonymous No.]

So what's fucking weird about Suisei's 5M, is that when they say it's random, it's not like you do it 10 times in a row and 4 times it's + and 6 times it's - or something, rather something is swapping it between always working and never working mid-game, so it is totally just bugged mcfugged

[Anonymous No.]

It's come to attention that most Botan players I've run into have zero idea what they're doing and are just abusing her positive normals to try to convert into one of her long ass combos

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>>49021536
I thought thats how you're supposed to play fighting games...

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How do you play or fight against Coco without getting a raging erection?

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>>49019786
Lmao, you ain't competing with pros, period.
You tryhard at a popular game so you can develop as a fighting game player by having a smooth skill gradient of players to play against.
There is no point playing with 'smaller audiences' because in a couple of months you will be playing against the same 6 people in discord and 4 of them plays Botan.
Not sure about you, but getting good at a game that only a handful of people play and to only fight the same people over and over sounds dumb to me.

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>>49019329
GODDAMMIT

Previous >>48953201

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>>49019274
tier whoring in in this game could be a stupid thing to do if they do frequent balance updates, you don't wanna main a character that's likely to get nerfed, right? I'd choose a tier 2 character though who knows when Coco will get buffed.

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>>49021700
>Not sure about you, but getting good at a game that only a handful of people play and to only fight the same people over and over sounds dumb to me

Pic related me after mastering Tekken playing only against Pakis

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>>49021613
I meant more so they've seemed complete lost in neutral and not even aware of their moves spacing
Like, once you back them into the corner it's just fucking over

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>>49021764
Just fixing armor would help Coco a lot, really. The fact that armor just fucking sucks really hurts since she's the most reliant on armor in the game.

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>>49021700
Sometimes you just like the game, you know? Why would you focus on a game that has a big playerbase if you hate how it plays? Yeah it sucks when your favorite fg is "dead" but it's insanity to insist in a game that you don't have fun playing it.

[Anonymous No.]

Did you know that Mike Myers was filming the turtle scene when 9/11 happened and he took a moment of silence while in the turtle costume?

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>>49019786
>>49021700
Also, if you think popular games are the ones that are hard to compete in because of legacy knowledge, you would be wrong.
It's always the jank kusoges that have the largest discrepancy in skill among it's players. The six players left playing this game in a few months? They will take turns buttfucking you with tech you don't even know exists.

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>>49021923
What are you replying to? I never said to focus on a big game that you don't like.
Just correcting the idea that anyone would have a better experience 'competing' in a dead game than a popular one just because legacy skill does not exist.

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>>49021938
Very interesting anon!

[Anonymous No.]

I almost want to say Coco's super grab is frame 1. Or at least I tested against Sora's 5L which is -2 on block, and she can't jump to avoid it. I'd be more certain but I don't know any moves that are -1 on hit or block.

[Anonymous No.]

Is /lig/ "install fightcade" anon here? Did he said if he liked IS?

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>>49018274
you're coping because you also suck at art

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>>49021868
They don't have a reversal that's also just fighting games. lol won't stop me from spamming cart any chance I get though Do we have frame data we can look at?

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>>49023768
There's some frame data but it's very incomplete. Suisei and Sora are the furthest along I believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>no pushblock
>no blowback / blitz
>Burst has fuck all active frames, don't even start game with it
>character has no reversal
>no CH state to really punish scrambles outside usual hit confirms / combo routes
>no air dash / double jump
>throw and even teching throws leaves you still in loopable range
>tons of shit blow straight through hitboxes or are evasive
>tons of combos are wall to wall, lots of specials reach like half screen

ofc i just downback in the corner, i'm praying for my fuckin life over here!

[Anonymous No.]

I like how Fubuki can do 875 with an unblockable reset and full meter. Dumb kusoge

[Anonymous No.]

Why is getting in on Botan so damn difficult as a Coco?

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>>49024763
Because you're not using Kiara. The real hell is when she's on your ass and everything Botan has infinite plus frames.

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>>49024763
>grappler vs character with a million tools
Such is the life of a grappler

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>>49024892
How can I use Kiara when I can't even build enough meter since I'm getting "poi"ed and sniper'd to death?

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>>49025131
The assist system in this game is pretty dogshit.

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>>49017895
Kill yourself, cunt

[Anonymous No.]

This seems dope, gonna trt it when I get home

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>>49025131
22S spam for meter. 22S also dodges projectiles. I think it's something like 11 uses of 22S gives full assist meter. She isn't scary when she's zoning. What's scary is when she rolls a grenade and chases after you.

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>>49025240
I forget about it half the time since meter is better spent on EX moves and special cancels.

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>>49017921
IRyS talked about getting into sf6

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>>49025420
Thank you Based Sifu. I will try to use it more now. I honestly thought the move was just for giggles or something.

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>>49024585
This is the shit I like to see in my kusoge

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>>49024585
I don't understand why everyone is ignoring that almost everything Fubuki does would be a casual infinite if the game didn't have strict infinite prevention so she gets max conversions from anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Botan is kinda busted huh
>jump 2h great keepout tool, huge range and safety, very spammable, combos on hit
>2h has absurd range and safety, combos for ridiculous damage if you anti-air someone with it
>3h great range for a sweep
>6m good whiff punish tool, knocks down for oki using 3h
>air grab is a good combo ender, gives great oki potential
>good zoning tools
>can still pressure your ass
>22x makes her strings hard to punish, can also go for a mixup if your opponent is lacking
Anything else I missed?

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>>49025240
The assist being tied to a meter/resource is really weird design choice imo
Half the time it feels you don't have it when you need it, and when you do have it's so late into the round that you're just using it to put your opponent in a "checkmate" situation

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>>49025611
has an advancing armor move that is safe on block and combos on hit, combos outside of burst a lot of the time.

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>>49025528
Yeah, they don't describe what the move is good for at all. Apparently it also makes some moves safer, like 5H is +1 on block if you cancel into it.

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>>49025611
>better damage scaling than anyone else in the game, can do 400 damage casually without even using meter
>disgustingly high hit/blockstun on everything, close range sniper can combo on a grounded hit because you're locked in hitstun for ages
>can grenade roll and run at you to put you in a horrible position
>hurtbox shifts constantly with moves that lean her back, lean her forward or pause her momentum
I can at least see her getting nerfed damage because she hits so hard for so little effort, it's stupid as fuck. Seriously, I'm sick of devs that think zoners need literally everything in the universe to compete.

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>>49025568
>>49025567
She also gets 725 from anywhere on screen with 3 bars. Maybe more. She may not get forever long gun loops like Boton, but she can be plenty busted.

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>>49020538
nice resource, thanks anon

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>>49009816
Does being an assist confirm that they're never going to become a playable character?

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>>49026893
Unless the game gets updated for about 10 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>49026956
>Time frame between Street Fighter vs.X-Men (1996) and MvC II (2000)
So you are saying there are chances

[Anonymous No.]

>>49009816
Lui with her legs

[Anonymous No.]

So they addressed most game breaking bugs but have the devs addressed Botan at all with at least something like "oh yeah she's getting nerfed later"?
Her damage is retarded.
She has pretty much every tool you'd need in this fighting game.
Almost everything she does is safe or can be made safe so it's hard to punish her for playing like a mong.
Like why the fuck does she randomly have a long reaching 2L that is also fucking 5f startup? Only pressure characters like Ayame and Suisei have 5f jabs I think. Botan also has the retarded reversal on top of it that you can't punish on block and if you jump over it then she's out of the corner and too far to punish.
Grenade roll is pretty much an I Win Neutral special against most matchups.
I think the play is to pick up Aki because she seems like the character that can best tard wrangle Botan but she's also looking like the hardest character to play. Imagine needing to pick up a character you probably need to practice for hours with to beat a braindead strong character that most people can learn in 10 minutes.

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>>49027306
skill issue

[Anonymous No.]

I remember seeing a different Hololive fighting game being developed recently on Twitter, does anyone know what I might be thinking of? I think it was a Japanese guy doing the sprite work and I think he was doing another fangame in a different genre at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49027561
There are two, a smash bros clone and a chibi one for the third gen that gives me Gem Fighters vibes. Outside of that, no idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49026893
I hope not because I want Ame to be playable so I can say theres 2 time traveling british characters in fighting games

[Anonymous No.]

I'm trying to do Virtual Frontier with Aki and the more I play the less I realize what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>49028315
you pick the busted items and spam +frame moves on the AI, that's what you do

[Anonymous No.]

shimada in 45 minutes, bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021940
Yeah, basically.
This makes Arcana Heart 3 the scariest game in the FGC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49028749
Finally time to play with a chuuba that is on this side of the planet

[Anonymous No.]

there is no point in tryharding to any game, that's why you should do it anyway if you want to regardless of game population or player skill gap

[Anonymous No.]

>>49028390
I was going to make a disparaging remark and then I picked up the Hitodama

[Anonymous No.]

tier whoring is always stupid because there's no point playing a character you don't enjoy. you're not gonna feel compelled to continue playing and improving at a game if you're not having fun. if you're lucky enough that a character you like is top tier, then that's good for you, but i'd never start playing ramlethal just because she's braindead easy and perma top 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49028315
I got my first online win as Aki and even made my first combo. It's all about persistence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49029332
I want to play ayame but I am afraid of what people will say
I want to be loved

[Anonymous No.]

>>49029373
Based Akibro. Hopefully I see you on the battlefield one day.
(Seriously, I have never played against an Aki, a Suisei nor a Sora online yet.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030377
play whoever you want. i'll call you a bitch and get mad but at the end of the day the better player wins, no matter what i say in the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030377
You browse the /vt/ board on 4chan. No one is ever going to love you like you need unless they're also from here.
What I'm trying to say is, go ahead and pick Ayame big fella.

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/4mhe95.mp4
this took me an hour and my hands hurt is it at least a little bit impressive for a new player

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030377
I used to be like this. The truth is people will hate you no matter who you pick, so just go for your favorite. Your favorite is the best character in the game? Well damn just play her and if anyone talk shit just say get rekt noob and send a screenshot to scrubquotes

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>>49030715
It will be if you find a better way to end that combo. As it is you will get punished by any half competent player.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030850
technically the end input is a 22M/H but my hands hurt too much to keep trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>49029332
Based. The greatest teacher is love

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030813
Why is it so fucking short

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030377
Just play her. People are just annoyed because she's easy to learn and gorilla mode but most characters in this game aren't that hard to learn anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49031037
everything else about it is busted so they had to make it worse somehow

i don't even care about the short range, i just wish it didn't whiff on crouchers half the time for no good reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>49015195
This whole time, I thought it was a Jojo reference thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49009816
What are these color swaps for Botan supposed to represent? The other ones are for the rest of Gen5 but I have no idea about these two

[Anonymous No.]

>>49032384
Right is Noel from Blazblue. Left I have no idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49032384
On the wiki it claims left is Dante.

[Anonymous No.]

Shimada with Idol Showdow with Dev in chat
Shimada skin next confirmed
https://www.twitch.tv/shimadatiger

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone NA want to play?
F138CA3A

[Anonymous No.]

>>49032903
>Dante
>not Ragna from BlazBlue
Bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>49033101
Yeah if right is Noel (which was my first thought), I would assume it would be Ragna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49032749
Isn't left saber's colors?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49033534
Noel seems more likely. She got guns

[Anonymous No.]

>>49033534
You mean right? All the Color 7 are reference to other fighting game characters. Unless you're thinking about Saber Nero, which would be a really weird reference to put on Botan. Color 6 is a weird assortment of alt costume references (Fubuki, Korone, Aki), reference to non-Holov tubers (Suisei, Sora and Coco) and another Holo reference (Ayame), with Botan being the only one that is a question but Dante >>49032903 is likely the reference here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030813
Speaking of wonky Suisei, is there any good reason why 5S cancel into 236S wiffs on the second activation? Being right next to the opponent I can't see why, but she just lowers the axe for a moment and then the move does nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

Took me over an hour and a half but I lucked into a state where I could button mash to end fights in five seconds

[Anonymous No.]

>>49033099
Are you still looking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49032384
>>49033315
gee botan how come the devs let you have two fighting game reference colors?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49034128
Command throw so it doesn't work if they're in hit or block stun except for very special kusoge circumstances

[Anonymous No.]

>>49033099
I guess our match got disconnected. GGs you beat my ass good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49035011
ggs Aki, not sure if the game desynced at the end though, your movement was kind of weird on my screen

You were by far the most wild player I've ever fought

[Anonymous No.]

>>49035109
NTA but are you down to play another set?

[Anonymous No.]

How do you know in which area you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49035153
Sure
391E18B2

[Anonymous No.]

>>49027740
>a chibi one for the third gen that gives me Gem Fighters vibes
mighta been this one, what was it called?

[Anonymous No.]

OSU

[Anonymous No.]

>>49034884
Huh, I didn't really take it for a throw since it cuts right to the cinematic, but I guess that makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>49035164
open google maps

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030715
https://files.catbox.moe/mjasb2.mp4
light attacks are shit, i did literally way more damage by attacking less

[Anonymous No.]

>>49027740
>>49035288
Is it this one?
https://twitter.com/sakuemonq/status/1637844063063015426

[Anonymous No.]

>>49035389
The animation doesn't look like one at all, but it does say it's one.

[Anonymous No.]

Nice. a new general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49035591
Yep, thank you! It looks really good but it seems it's not going to be released any time soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49035868
It's true what the op image says >>49009816
and that the dev is one of your and that anya petra is actually a cabal that controls the western scene?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49036458
anyafags are all schizo larpers with massive egos

[Anonymous No.]

>>49009816
My uncle showed me this, DO NOT TELL ANYBODY, SIR.

I wish I wasn't such a shitter for figthan games

[Anonymous No.]

>>49036562
that sounds like an average game dev so it just confirms it further

[Anonymous No.]

>>49036458

[Anonymous No.]

Watching Shimada struggle for the sake of her oshi with korone makes me think if sticking to my oshi is worth it
How hard can you oshicoin before you give up

[Anonymous No.]

Man, what the heck am I suppose to do against those lightsabers

[Anonymous No.]

>>49009816
when niji characters

[Anonymous No.]

>>49009816
Why Mumei there?

[Anonymous No.]

Why did none of you tell me Aki is a gay retarded Nu-13, I hate this

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037325
Tomorrow >>49036666

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037252
How do you struggle with Korone

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037252
If Polka was in the game, I would literally never play anyone else, regardless of what her kit was. But that's just me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030377
>>49030761
PICK A TOP TIER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037408
/who/

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037569
Well now I feel like a silly billy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037252
You might as well play them as much as you can and keep them around as a sub or something, having your oshi in is always better than knowing they won't ever get in. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037262
As a former sui main, this matchup broke me into picking Sora

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037674
The notes too, why the fuck don't they go away on hit
Is your blockstring just infinitely safe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49032903
>>49033101
Well, she already uses Rain Storm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037524
I am bad at fighting games

[Anonymous No.]

When's the /vt/ tournament?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037785
I think you can jump over low note but at max distance even jumping forward won't allow Suisei to punish because her j.H has very little horizontal range.
Her best bet is to use the projectile invul super on reaction to note

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037908
Everyday on Shimada discord, apparently
I can see you, people who just joined I know where you come from

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037908
i'd rather wait until they iron out all the critical bugs and network drops.

[Anonymous No.]

Chip kills are so fucking gay holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017359
honestly it seems like playing like a bitch is the most unstoppable strategy.
theres like 25% shield poke in this game so heavy/projectile pokes and stuffing jumps is pretty good. Because of the high damage nature of combos starting with jab and the fact that you cant shield until your dash ends, its pretty hard to approach someone playing keep away and you lose a lot of health if you get your approach stopped, then again you lose a lot of health blocking the combo on shield too. additionally because there arent many good aerial mobility moves, its kind of hard to cross up or approach from the air, also almost every launch in this game will beat your aerials. most players ive played online are rushdown monkeys who just try to bread and butter their combos but the real meta is long pokes/projectiles, back dashes, and anti airs. if they approach you with blocks its a free grab or back dash heavy for shield poke, if they approach with an attack then you can stuff the dash with jab and get your own combo off.
Obviously there will be times they slip in but a strategy isn't worthless just because you cant execute it perfectly. its just that this is the only way ive found to farm wins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037888
She's actually kind of hard to use against intermediate opponents her air chainsaw is pretty reachable and if you fuck up your spacing you fuck up hard. She a fairly stubby launcher which gets her into trouble, her yubi is a pretty mediocre projectile that leaves her open that gets her into trouble and her upper cut has some horizontal space but not much and requires collab meter to make safe or combo off which locks her out of the lmao I win button.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49038304
This is why I play botan, if you want to jump back to the other side of the stage and expect me to chase you I'll start sending a bucketful of poi until you start taking some chances.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037785
last one for me

[Anonymous No.]

>Idol Showdown
>not Idol Shodown

[Anonymous No.]

>>49037785
>>49038626
ggs
Honestly I'd like to tell you more about how to win this matchup but I sincerely think it's like 8-2 in Sora's favor if she just plays lame the entire time because it's so hard for Suisei to get in or get out of the corner without taking huge risks

[Anonymous No.]

>>49038817
ggs Sora anon
I normally pick zoning characters or characters with giant normals, so this was quite the learning experience to see what it's like on the other side

I hate it

[Anonymous No.]

Well I am done until a major update, because this game is fucking unplayable on stick and with only 8 choices, multiple characters are blatantly non-functional with absolutely no reason to pick them over the working (actually mostly just broken and boring the other way) characters that do everything better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49038850
Stay strong bro, don't be like me who got mindbroken into picking a different character...
I might be winning more but it cost me dignity
At least I am not so low as to pick Botan

[Anonymous No.]

>>49038979
Why the fuck are you playing on stick in 2023

[Anonymous No.]

>>49039132
It's literally comfy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021868
Botan on wall is hard to play, she doesnt have a fast knockback or anything off of block. korone has that gay ass super mario attack out of crouch or fubuki with her GP counter can punish you for hitting their shield for example. either you get the grab or an aerial or you just get completely raped. Both of my friends play botan and the only way I can get games off of them is keeping her in a corner and staying out of grab/L range while prodding her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49039091
Right now I'm approaching this game with the mentality of it being a casual kusoge to mess around in, but man, the things I put up with for Sui-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>49038304
please dont post this image it brings back that suppressed memory of that /hlgg/ post

[Anonymous No.]

The layouts a little unfamiliar
So each special has
a light and medium ver with slightly diffferent frame data
a heavy ver that uses meter
and a special ver that you use to cancel into?
Is that right?

[Anonymous No.]

IT'S A FUCKING CABAL I WONT TAKE MY MEDS THE ANYAS GOT HER

[Anonymous No.]

Mukirose is so cool dudes

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck do you play against aki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49040742
UNPLUG YA CONTROLLER DAWG

[Anonymous No.]

>>49040665
>accuses the devs of being in a secret cabal
>immediately asks for anya

[Anonymous No.]

Hope the devs are taking notes

[Anonymous No.]

shimada stop making /here/ references you're going too far pull out pull out

[Anonymous No.]

Is superchat cancel bugged? It's much harder to do it in a real match than it is online.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49038304
>fighting game
>free grabs
pick one

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041014
>tranny
>homoshit
sugoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041023
anon discovers lag for the first time

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041151
I thought this game as rollback.

[Anonymous No.]

Does she actually lurk /here/ or is shitposting /here/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041017
those were chat suggestions

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041278
>she

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041237
rollback doesn't make lag not exist anon, it just helps keep it at a playable level

>>49041317
>someone else says "make the whole roster lamy"
>she immediately says "yeah make the whole roster /become/"
she's the one who made it a /here/ thing...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49040610
There's light and medium
Some moves have a heavy version that uses meter, sometimes called an EX move (makes the stage chance color briefly)

If your special hits/is blocked, you can cancel into another special, but it'll cost one super chat bar (the thin bar, characters can store either 2 or 3). The easiest example is to try super cancelling Botan's ground snipe into a diagonal snipe, or a grenade throw. If you do it correcly, it'll come out faster and a small yellow circle will breifly appear over Botan.

You get more super chats over time, or by correctly inputting specials, or by perfect blocking opponent moves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041364
She's a woman actually confirmed tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041278
Shimada's one of the original /wvt/s. She doesn't post anymore though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041377
kinda sucks then
no point practicing skill cancels when the timing varies wildly between opponents

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041429
P-post her pits please

[Anonymous No.]

I cant listen to shimada his tranny voice is too telling

[Anonymous No.]

>>49038111
>discord
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041970
I agree but such is life with small fighting games

[Anonymous No.]

>good characters are also very entertaining to play
thank god this game isnt like smash where all the fun characters are ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>49038728
I don't get this

[Anonymous No.]

Literally the only reason to play Korone instead of Fubuki is the air chainsaw and Fubuki's jH is still better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49042969
What do Fubuki do well?
I haven't really run into one yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>49042969
Korone seems better to me. Fubuki's blockstrings feel kind of bad but maybe I haven't fought the right ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49042969
The only reason to play korone is that doog cute

[Anonymous No.]

anime fighters make my blood boil, the two-touch and just getting stuffed into the corner or doing the same to someone else lacks any of the fun of the genre to me

[Anonymous No.]

Advice on how to play Suisei, Sora, and Aki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043096
Go back to Super Turbo old man

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043096
This is a pretty specific complaint

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043211
>ST
That game has fucking TODs for pretty much all characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>everyone I play against is fucking braindead
why are chuuba fans like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043135
Missile spam

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043431
Gomen just learning the genre

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043211
"play super turbo" is not an insult

[Anonymous No.]

Slow night, what are you watching?
Also
>your oshi
>your main

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
This girl Shimada raided. She sounds like Mordred from Fate
>Polka
>Botan

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone up for some matches?

A1973673

I'm closing it in 10 minutes if no one joins.

>>49043726
>what are you watching?
The IDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls: U149
>your oshi
Not sure.
>your main
I only tried dog girl, fox girl, and dragon girl so far. Not sure who I like the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49041380
>correctly inputting
oh ok, so the S button is more a simple input thing than a cancel thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043891
What's your region?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043930
NA, but I don't think it really matters with rollback.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043891
>The IDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls: U149
I should starting watching that but my backlog is eternal

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043053
She's a shoto, including an actual tatsu that goes through projectiles unlike Korone's chainsaw, but she gets combo extensions off of fucking everything, including 5H linking back into 5M, an extra heavy that also moves her forward to make sure 2H connects in all her chains, juggling off SSR normals, and juggling off both her tatsu and DP supers. 5H is also multihitting so it's insanely easy to hit confirm off, and all the way in the corner she can do a left/right 50/50 because jH won't cross up if done early while late jH or j2M will.

I guess Korone has a better sweep at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043965
Sure I'll try

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043965
roll back isn't magic, anon

[Anonymous No.]

SSR specials fug

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043891
Mori play Rimworld
>Mori
>Sora

[Anonymous No.]

Incredibly obnoxious.
Made another lobby.
B2D77B06

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043977
It's probably the only good show this season. You owe it to yourself to check out the first episode at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043094
That's good enough for me!

[Anonymous No.]

Is there unironically no option to deal with botan's 5 medium medium 2 light? Medium is plus so light is gonna hit, both shots move her forward so she won't space out and for some reason throw isn't fast enough to grab her out of the 2 light. So if you don't have an invincible move what are you fucked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
My Job is Yuri
>Kronii
>Aki
>>49044371
I like my lesbian drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
Mori
Ayame
Might play some more when she's done streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>49044146
Make a lobby and people will join, they said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
Twitch chuuba called Jets
>Luna
>Not decided yet but I think I am going to main ayame...

[Anonymous No.]

>suisei super takes two bar, has a weak first activation that costs you oki if you combo into it
>second activation does extremely mediocre damage
man you can't make landing the full thing have this many conditions and then have it do about as much as any other random super

it looks so sick and i love two-step supers like that for the satisfaction of landing them, but you gotta actually reward me for that effort

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043053
messed around with her tonight. her strings are really good. her speen goes through every 1 hit projectile and hits from midscreen. her back H has armor. her air spin has no recovery it's like trying to punish Ken's LP shoryu, and on block it seems like you get pushed back so far it can't really be punished anyway. get ignorant with that shit. her combo damage is big and really consistent thanks to her normals, and easy to do. ambiguous cross-up jump H is nasty. i think in some situations i had it hit behind but i still landed infront lol.
5H links to 5L up close.

her universal overhead is really small, but this game has no CH to combo from them so it's a fucking useless move anyway, isn't it?

>>49043135
i don't know why but people still don't know how fucking belligerent Suisei is, whist they still complain about Botan. you can't beat her in air-to-air (j.M), you can't anti-air her (j.S), you can't jump on her (dd special, 5M), you can't downback her because she has actual real overhead that leads to combo, and if you freeze up for a second she command grabs you. she has built in oki with the comet and the H version is as good as a full collab call. don't even bother pressing buttons once she's in Super state, because you are going to get Raging Demon'd. light axe attack goes half screen and is only like -4 so enjoy the RPS if your character's 2L doesn't reach afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
Mori
>Anya
>Suisei

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
No one I usually watch is streaming so I'm just watching some vinesauce vods.
>Ame
>Suisei

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
I'm listening to the polka voicelines
>Jp Polka En Ina
>Botan

[Anonymous No.]

>>49045059
There's actually one character that can combo from the universal overhead without assist. And of all characters, it's fucking Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
A chess video about the Vienna Gambit
>Yuko
>Botan

[Anonymous No.]

>>49045059
>Suisei
Just pick Sora/Aki

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
Just playing the game
>Korone
>Korone

Also what do you guys want in the next op?
Might bring back the news to put in SF VI beta not sure why I forgot

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
clipfagging Holos, and watching videos about age of wonder 4
>Oshi: Polka
>Main: Day 1&2 Botan, today played Fubuki and Suisei. Still on the cards, Aki and Sora, but I'd also like to see what all the fuss is with Ayame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043910
Yep
supers and collab super also need the S input

[Anonymous No.]

>>49044733
thanks for watching my oshi lunabro but your main is cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49045059
UOH is usable for Suisei and Sora, and in general with certain assists, but it's not a big deal.

Suisei is only good if your character's crouching hitbox is big and 5M is currently in the mood to be +5.
>you can't anti-air her (j.S)
lol
>she has actual real overhead that leads to combo
A hilariously slow one.
>command grabs you
Command grab is only good for oki, it doesn't do meaningful damage over a much less risky normal throw
>light axe attack goes half screen and is only like -4 so enjoy the RPS if your character's 2L doesn't reach afterwards.
Bro that literally does not make any sense, if that's an RPS situation I shudder to think what blocking Yubi is considered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49045516
I didn't want to but as a spic I understand now that I must play ayame in bad wifi or else I will not be living up to expectations

[Anonymous No.]

>>49030377
Just play her and embrace the unga bunga. She's not busted and the only reason people don't like her is due to her being easy to pick up and she's very oppressive against beginner level players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49045723
that's fair, brother. that's fair.

[Anonymous No.]

I HATE FRAME DATA I HATE FRAME DATA

[Anonymous No.]

>>49046403
that has more to do with hitboxes but I feel you.I think I'm gonna drop this game until they fix the frame data on some moves, botan should 100% be banned from any competitive play for her ability to keep someone effectively stunlocked for a whole match.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
Not watching anything, listening to music while I wrap things up for the night
>Mel
>Botan

[Anonymous No.]

>>49046403
Load training mode again and that combo will probably work on crouching. Or play for 5 minutes and it suddenly will start working. My biggest fear is that a lot of the balance problems with this game are actual bugs and their Unity jank engine may be too jank to fix them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49045401
Remember to take /choc/ out

[Anonymous No.]

i play coco

[Anonymous No.]

Early Bread cause I want to go to sleep
Good night, fig


>>49046887
>>49046887
>>49046887
>>49046887

[Anonymous No.]

anons were saying there was a tournament already, where was it so i can watch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043726
Ayame vods
>Ayame
>Ayame

[Anonymous No.]

>>49043688
Yeah that's what you'd like to believe wouldn't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49046753
v.nice