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48999419 No.48999419 [Reply] [Original]

Your honor, my client clearly said "I'm sowwy "

>> No.48999984

>https://streamable.com/tr6vze
Your Honor, as demonstrated in Exhibit #69, the plantiff shows clear signs of selective enforcement of rules regarding their contractors. This goes to my malice argument, and unless plantiff has sufficient proof of how their internal rules are enforced, it shows a clear bias against my client.

>> No.49000631

>>48999984
Yeah and he probably got a talking to afterwards.

>> No.49000656

>>48999984
DELETE THIS #cutforhex

>> No.49000706

>>48999984
OH NONONONONO MILORDSISTERS?????

>> No.49000782

>>48999984
Don't people realize that when they talk like this, they're gaslighting Finana - the real victim here?

>> No.49000787

>so me- I mean Zaion did some bullshit but SHE APOLOGIZED TO THE STAFF
>repeat the same course of action 50
>WHY DID THEY FIRE ME????????
To be honest this is hilarious.

>> No.49000991

>>49000787
Haha fr fr. You know it sister.

>> No.49001031

Niji shills are trying too hard.

>> No.49001079

>>49000991
Calm down sis

>> No.49001135

>>49000991
Listen, she said 'I'm sorry"
And then she said "I'm sorry" again
And then she said "I'm sorry"
And then she said "I'm sorry" again
And then she said "I'm sorry"
And then she said "I'm sorry" again
And then she said "I'm sorry"
And then she said "I'm sorry" again
all within the first week. What's there to be mad at?

>> No.49001136

>>48999984
DELETE THIS!! I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT MILORD'S CUM IN MY MOUTH

>> No.49001262

>>48999419
your honor, find my client innocent or i will force you to go on a family vacation.

>> No.49001427

>>48999984
Don't forget about laws protecting employees from hostile work environment

>> No.49001479

>>49001427
>employees
well that's your first mistake

>> No.49001729

>>49001427
>We will pay you in exposure

They don't have a salary so they are not employees

>> No.49001737

Saiyon did nothing wrong (all her problems were due to the terrible management staff with their abhorrent communication skills and their unwillingness to properly mentor new vtubers)

>> No.49001838

>>49000787
Even knowing how strict the company is, she still did those things.
Yes the company is dumb but its still a company with strict rules, just reading her docs about them you can tell how strict they are with their talents.
Yet she still did stuff without asking, without knowing if the company is cool with it or not.
Its kinda like she wanted to get fired.

>> No.49002005

>>48999419
Sayu is completely in the legal right to sue anycolor over a clear case of managerial retaliation

>> No.49002084

>>49001838
The company management did not adhere to any rules and retroactively punished her on the spot for decisions they flipflopped on with receipts

>> No.49002203

>>49001031
Its so sad how much i supported nijiEN in the beginning, its leaving a nasty taste in my mouth

>> No.49002222

>>49002005
>break company policies nonstop
>get combative with managers when they tell you to stop
>proceed to circumvent the managers to try and continue breaking company policies
>HELP I'M BEING RETALIATED AGAINST

no faggot, she was terminated for not adhering to any of the contract she signed

>>49002084
It's funny because she wasn't actually punished for any of the flipflopping. The original genshin stream wasn't held against her, it was her arguing with managers, then arguing with managers, then rounding up her genmates to argue with her managers, and then went to other peoples' managers to argue, beg, and plead.

>> No.49002229

>>49001479
>>49001729
They still get a cut from streamer's akasupa and merch sales
Also they're under a contract
So yes, they're still protected by the law

>> No.49002290

>>49000787
The course of action of speaking to a manager and then getting punished by another manager for having the audacity to speak to the first manager lol

>> No.49002298

>>49002229
Anon-chama, they're independent contractors, not employees.

>> No.49002332

>>49001737
>>49001838
Zaion didn't fit, she's way to edgy and problematic for Nijisanji EN (cliques aside), they have to part ways
>White Company
Unfortunately, due to creative differences, Zaion LanZa and Nijisanji have decided to part ways.
>Black Company
Zaion LanZa did 911;
Zaion LanZa is responsible for the holocaust;
Zaion LanZa is a bigot, racist, sexist, rape apologist, Nazi White-supremacist;
Zaion LanZa took advantage of our mentally challenged hire, Finana;
Zaion LanZa falsely claim sponsorship of a brand, putting Nijisanji and it's entire staff and family in danger of crippling lawsuits;
Zaion LanZa kicked a dog;
Zaion LanZa broke the chain of command and talked to someone else in the company that wasn't our 2-week old diversity hire ESG-boosting lazy nigger;
Worst of all...... Zaion LanZa was not friends with Elira and/or Enna.
Nijisanji has decided that Zaion LanZa deserves the death penalty.

>> No.49002353

>>49002222
>do X
>company does nothing
>later uses it as ammunition against you
Woman behavior, as expected of Zhangisanji

>> No.49002398

>>49000631
>Yeah and he probably got a talking to afterwards.
Suuuuuure

>> No.49002473

>>49002353
What was held against her then? Go ahead, quote the doc.

>> No.49002515

>>49001838
Do you even read the docs?
>Asked the reason why she can't use her old Genshin account
>Management gave an excuse
>Zaion pointed out that other Livers do that as well
>Management gave another excuse
>Zaion gave another rational rebuttal
>Management gave another excuse
This happened FOUR times until the management pretty much tell Zain "You can't use your old account, PERIOD!"
Then removed her VOD, pretty much killing her youtube momentum.

Then when she asked for advice and help from other manager, they immediately suspend her. Remember, this kind of retaliation is unlawful in US law, it is considered a retaliation in a hostile work environment.

>> No.49002600

>>49000787
>i didn't read the google doc

>> No.49002618

>>49002515
Anon. Nijiniggers has cum for brains. You are talking to a literal cum covered brickwall

>> No.49002635

>>49002515
This is the type of nigger that threatened to call CPS on their parents for enforcing their bedtime

>> No.49002695

>>49002222
This bootlicker acting like what she did was the biggest shit ever. Yes we know she should have sat down and shut up if she didn't want to get terminated. Doesn't mean the reasons given in the termination weren't absolute bullshit.

>> No.49002697

>>49002298
If you consider her independent contractor she's free to leave after the contract ended. But no, she got kicked out, and then Anykara became petty and listing out all kind of infractions against her. That's not independent contractor, it's retaliation against an ex-employee.

Actually in US you can get sued if you're badmouthing your ex-employee to their new employer.

>> No.49002755

>>49002515
>Everything that my side said is a rational rebuttal
>Everything the other side said is a hysterical excuse

Or maybe, just maybe, there was more than one exact specific reason for a decision and it gets elaborated each time the talent calls them up in hysterics.

>> No.49002766

>>48999419
>nijisanji makes statement in attempt to bury Zaion
>Zaion claps back point for point with statement
>nijisanji: "noooooo! you can't just defend yourself against our shit flinging!!!

>> No.49002813

>>49002222
You mean policies that applied unfairly?
The policies that only applied to Zaion but not to her fellow livers?
You interns really hellbent in giving excuses for companies that willing to ruin someone's reputation over talking to other manager.

>> No.49002868

>>49002755
>Look guys she was totally hysterical! Seriously what a drama queen, I was there in the room!

>> No.49002870

>>49002697
I'm starting to think you've never had a job

>> No.49003056

>>49002870
he clearly has a shit job he cant quit cause hed be homeless and this is his dream of how things will pan out when he finally gets fired for incompetence.
let him have it.
shitposting on 4chan and watching vtubers are all he has.

>> No.49003150

>>49002755
I would agree with you if Niji applied those rules fairly and equally to all livers
But yeah no shit someone is going to be confused if they keep selectively changing the rules

>> No.49003201

>>49002697
that... absolutely none of that is how labor laws work, what the hell

>> No.49003213
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49003213

>>48999984
Your Honor, another example of selective enforcement of rules.

>> No.49003214

>>49002473
Quote the doc? Sure
>She's talking about when she used to play game roms. Remember, she's not doing this in her stream, she's just talking about her past.
>Allowing her to use her old Genshin account, then suddenly complaining about it after
>Making a running joke about Dee's nuts. No one expect that it's an actual brand name, she even apologize about that. Company seems fine until....
>Talking to other manager. Something that considered quite mundane in working environment.

Remember, all those infractions were also done by other livers, but they never get punished or fired. This is a targeted harassment.

>> No.49003254

>>49002635
You're talking about Zaion or the management?

>> No.49003328

>>49002755
So, telling that other livers breach the rule and allowed to do that is considered histerical and not rational? Boy I don't want to see you work as HR.

>> No.49003391

>>49002870
>>49003056
I just love that you two immediately judging me. You two are perfect fit for Anykara management lol

>> No.49003399

>>49003214
Hey go over again the timeline of how quick she kept infringing on various rules? The course of a couple weeks?
>>49003328
>>49003214
>b-b-buh my other livers
So you have one liver here, one liver there, another liver there, and another later on, and one a couple years ago, continue ad nauseam. Not a single liver doing all of the above over the course of a couple weeks.

>> No.49003444

>>49003399
>Other livers breaks the rule but they doing it sparsely so it's okay!
What the fuck?

>> No.49003496

>>49003444
That's the main counter-argument, yeah. Makes you think.

>> No.49003518

>>49003444
It's not okay, they get talked to behind the scenes.

Like Zaion did.

>> No.49003571

>>49002229
Not well enough apparently

>> No.49003649

they all break the rules the difference is that Zaion didn't cooperate with the disciplinary process and wasnt a "culture fit." she would rather fight for "the truth" and honesty rather than just cooperate and admit that the bosses were right.
she also broke more rules in less time than any new hire and its easier to dump people in the beginning than wait until later.

>> No.49003662

>>49003399
>Hey go over again the timeline of how quick she kept infringing on various rules?
You keep forgetting a lot of those rule infringements were literally nothing, shit that is easily excused. Most of it actually didn't matter, they just listed every wrong thing she did, big or not, with barely any context, to justify her termination. If you just said they didn't like her attitude it would be way more understandable

>> No.49003707

>>49003518
sauce for that?

>> No.49003761

>>49003518
getting talked to behind the scenes means it isn’t an infringement worth terminating someone over

>> No.49003771

>>49003649
>didn't cooperate with the disciplinary process
She literally did though. She never fought for free speech after making sexual assault jokes or dumb shit like that, and most of the shit she did she apologized for. The only thing she "didn't cooperate" with really was the genshin account stuff, which is ridiculous to use as a justification for termination.

>easier to dump people in the beginning than wait until later.
Yeah that is true, but not because she broke rules, but because she annoyed them, probably.

>> No.49003774
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49003774

>>49003649
>admit that the bosses were right.
Look, a nijisanji bootlicker teaching us how to be a good obedience bootlicker.

>> No.49003802

>>49001838
Millennial Californian, pls andastand.

>> No.49003850

I wanna hear how Kurosanji defenders justify the Deez Nuts thing. Seriously. The brand name is not copyrightable, and the very tiny niche Country Fair company with that name can only claim infringement over the logo, which Zaion didn't use because she made her own.

>> No.49004031

>>49003771
>She literally did though.
Your Honor, she literally said "I'm Sowwy" before doing it again

>> No.49004047

>>49003850
Playing Devil's Advocate here.
Jap companies are super paranoid about infringing copyright. So if someone pointed out that the phrase "Dee's Nuts" actually belonged to a real company, they probably wanted her to cut it out immediately. Think about how anal Livers/Vtubers in JP are about not using the name of real website, people, and IPs. They never consider that laws don't apply equally everywhere.

>> No.49004058

>>49003328
>Boy I don't want to see you work as HR.
Always remember that HR works for the company's interest; not the employee's.

>> No.49004146

>>49004031
>All of them break the rules, but Zaion is the only one that didn't apologize
She did apologize
>OH SO THAT MAKES IT OKAY THEN!?!?
kill yourself nijinigger

>> No.49004151

>>49004031
She didn't just do the same mistake over and over, idiot.

>>49004047
That would be fine if they didn't act like she committed a big sin in her termination letter.

>> No.49004239
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49004239

I am not crazy! I know she swapped those accounts. I knew it was her PL. The one before her reincarnationt. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. She covered her tracks, she got those idiots in her chat to lie for her. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? She’s done worse. That rape joke! Are you telling me that a streamer just happens to forget that she was in the middle of a stream like that? No! She orchestrated it! Zaion! She leaked internal company info! And I saved her! And I shouldn’t have. I took her into my own company! What was I thinking? She’ll never change. She’ll never change! Ever since her debut, always the same! Couldn’t keep herself out of trouble. But not our Zaion! Couldn’t be precious Zaion! Lying about sponsorships! And SHE gets to be a liver? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped her when I had the chance! …And you, you have to stop her! You-

>> No.49004303

>>49004239
what movie is this

>> No.49004390

>>48999419
I don't get the point of the thread. She was fired, defamed, harassed, doxxed etc and then came back to dispel some of the terrible shit anykara(and twitter niggers) implied about her to give context. All she can do is apologize, what the fuck else do nijniggers want? Why do you think niji/you deserve more? She does not want to go back to that black company nor does she want any compensation. She was clearing the air after being damaged for a series of nothing burgers because she wants to return to streaming. Why are sisters STILL seething?

>> No.49004441

>>48999419
They knew she was a Genshin fanatic before they hired her. To expect her to not fight for it is unreasonable. Making her restart must have been devastating to her. While much of the gatcha can be replaced with money, years of grinding for those artifacts can't. Rare among vtubers, she's an actual gamer. An end gamer, not a watch my oshi play a tutorial. It was at that moment she learned she made a mistake joining a black company that has little interest in helping their talents succeed.

>> No.49004479

>>49004239

>> No.49004507

>>49003518
>It's not okay, they get talked to behind the scenes
Proof?

>> No.49004585

>>49004390
Reasons they're still seething
1. woman envy
2. other livers talked poorly about her, including males
3. nijisanji character assassinated her

>> No.49004715

>>48999419
Slippin Zaion with a corpo account? That's like a monkey with a machine gun!

>> No.49004794

>>49004441
Sounds like a skill issue to me.

>> No.49004893

>>49003213
EMBER IS A N-

>> No.49005144

>>49002600
they're clearly ESL, they probably can't read half the posts in this thread

>> No.49005167
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49005167

>>49002600
I'M SORRY BRO GEEZ

>> No.49005232

>>49005167
>i lack critical thinking skills

>> No.49005266

I've unironically seen someone fired from a Union Warehouse for being late ONE day.

Now, let's disregard that we worked on a Point system and each minor infraction of policy was let's say 1 point and you got fired at 10 points.

HE WAS ONLY! LATE! ONE! DAY!

>> No.49005340

>>49005266
Yeah the bosses at that warehouse should be hung at the public square.

>> No.49005445

>>49005232
I apologize bro.

>> No.49005500

She kept saying she apologized bc that was to counter the SHE SHOWED NO REMORSE part of Niji accusation

>> No.49005516

>>49005167
>how dare she apologize for minor mistakes that many other members have made, and while being new to the company

>> No.49005568

>>49005500
It's hard to say that you showed remorse when you continued to do the things you have to apologize for.

>> No.49005600

>>49004390
Remember, a lot of Niji are Nijizhangs. They will not stop until someone is destroyed physically and mentally or even demanding self deletion.

>> No.49005617

Let go already dramaniggers, she's distancing herself from all that shit, the show is over, you lost

>> No.49005648

>>49005568
Yeah I remember that part where she did the things she apologized for over and over. Oh wait, she didn't.

>> No.49005654

>>49005516
>minor
>breaking your deals with the management
>fueling slander about your employers
>minor
Westnoid mentality. Kek

>> No.49005683

>>49005266
Companies with high turn over rate is a huge red flag.

>> No.49005765

>>49005654
What deals? Show us from the docs what kind of deal she's breaking?
Also fueling slander how? Show us from the docs how she fueling the slander
Also most of them are minor infractions. Do you even read the doc at all?

>> No.49005806

>>49005167
And livers are always going on stealth suspensions for likely similar micro issues/nothingburgers/bigger shit.A suspension for playing a wavemate's song is literally fucking retarded, especially when she is new and has a newbie manager who evidentially has given her incorrect advice before. She is out of the company and agreed to leave, so stop seething sis.

>> No.49005808

>>49005617
Said the nijikek while you still here, unable to let go

>> No.49005869

>>49005765
>minor infractions

You keep saying that, but at literally any job ever (and you'd know this if you'd ever had one) an infraction is an infraction. Major or minor, it still counts. Especially when you make a lot of them.

>> No.49005951

>>49005445
Don't apologize to me. Apologize to your parents.

>> No.49006033

>>49004303
https://youtu.be/PuZ34IeY_L0?t=205
Chicanery scene from Better Call Saul.
Never seen the Zaion/Sayu copy pasta version before and it gave me a good chuckle.

>> No.49006069

>>49005869
Again, it's part of workplace harassment. Some companies do that to remove their employee by writing them up for the smallest infraction.

>> No.49006070

>>49005806
>A suspension for playing a wavemate's song
You do know that wasn't specifically for that, right?
That the suspension was also part of the whole "Won't let the Genshin Account thing go and is being combative with Management to the point of trying to go over their heads and through others' managers"

The suspension where they asked her to think over if she really wanted to be there because she keeps acting like she wants to just continue her Sayu activities as Zaion?

>> No.49006097

>>49003771
You might wanna re read that doc as Genshin wasn't the only thing she "didn't cooperate" with as she clearly said she went against management and lied to them about FFXIV.

>> No.49006099

>>49005765
>Show us from the docs what kind of deal she's breaking?
>Second, regarding the FFXIV account in use. Simply put, Zaion made a choice that was not what was agreed on, and thus this was completely the fault of Zaion. The rumor of Zaion using mods is false.

>Also fueling slander how?
>She did make the mistake of “liking” a random reply that she was browsing through, and did “unlike” it after realizing her mistake.
While she obviously doesn't post which reply, everyone here knows which one was.

That's amazing, I got 3 quotes saying I didn't read the docs but aparently I'm the only one here who did. Holobronies always shaming themselves, you dumbfuckers are the sole reason everybody hates this board.

>> No.49006111

>>49006069
>Being held to the terms of your employment is workplace harassment
???

>> No.49006419

>>49006070
You mean the manager who explicitly gave her the go ahead to play, then went back on it because he's also only been there for 2 weeks and fucked up? She was a dedicated genshit streamer. Don't hire someone dedicated to a certain game and ask them to start from level 1 for arbitrary reasons you don't enforce across the company.

>> No.49006504

>>49006419
>>49006419
>who explicitly gave her the go ahead to play, then went back on it because he's also only been there for 2 weeks and fucked up?
>"Hey sorry we messed up and can't allow this, but we're not holding it against you"
>What the fuck how dare you do this to me
>I'm going to now harass you and the other managers to let me use my old account for the next month

>> No.49006781

>>49006504
Pretending she was hysterical and accusing her of harassment doesn't make you win the argument sis. If she were actually harassing managers that would definitely have been on the list. So you have no real rebuttal besides straight up lying.

>> No.49006925
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49006925

>>49006781
>Confront managers in voice call
>Didn't get anywhere, confront them in another voicecall
>Didn't get anywhere, gather your genmates to confront them again
>Didn't get anywhere, move on to *other games* and do the same thing
>Still don't get anywhere
>Go and beg managers that have nothing to do with you to overrule your managers

>> No.49006988

>>48999419
Sowwy for what?

>> No.49007163

It's hilarious how the bootlickers work

>She wasn't remorseful !
>Ok she apologized but it's not enough, because she kept making the same mistakes over and over(ignores that this isn't what happened at all)
>Ok but even if they're minor infractions, she deserved to be fired still!
>Doesn't matter that most of those minor infractions were bs they conjured up! I'll still defend my company to the death
>And I'm still going to act like they're the most awful sins imaginable and she was a hysterical irredeemable whore

>>49006925
>Talking with managers aka what you're supposed to do = CONFRONTING
>having a second call because of disagreement = HARASSMENT
>getting help from genmates = GROUP HARASSMENT
>asking if anything can be done = BEGGING FOR AN OVERRULE
And you wonder why people don't believe you read the doc, when you have such a warped, bootlicker view of reality.

>> No.49007248

>>49007163
I hope she reads this bro

>> No.49007290

>>49007248
I don't care I'm just here to fight and get my blood pressure up for no reason

>> No.49007879

>>49006111
>the terms of your employment are that you must blindly and unquestioningly accept any retarded desicion, including ones that contradict previous desicions or rules applied to other people.
>also we're not gonna tell you the terms but expect you to infer them

>Why can't I do X when this other member can do X
is a perfectly valid quesiton and if management feels that offended by questions like that they deserve all the asscancer they can get.
fuck japanese work culture and fuck kurosanji in particular
behvaiour like that is downright cult-like

>> No.49007972

>>49005869
I don't know what kind of black companies you have been working for but no, in my experience not all infractions are treated equally. I'm sorry you've had to work such shit jobs anon.

>> No.49008235
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49008235

Retaliation from management is a huge crime in the U.S, especially California.
Could see at least a 250k fine, possibly even more if Sayu/False push this. Can't wait to see Nijisanji drop en management off a cliff after this.

>> No.49008257

>>48999984
DO NOT REDEEM SIRS

>> No.49008380

>>49008235
Crazy how Commiefornia took the stance of "You can't discipline your employees for anything, ever."

Makes as much sense as letting the homeless squatting in your house have more rights than the legal owners and being unable to evict them.

>> No.49008387

>>49006925
So you're writing fanfiction despite having the doc on hand? Fascinating to see nijiniggers in action for sure.

>> No.49008390

>>49008235
>Retaliation from management
>what makes a strong retaliation case
>A strong retaliation case has three things: A worker faces harassment or discrimination in the workplace. A worker reported discrimination or harassment. The worker who reported the discrimination or harassment was punished by demotion or fired.
She is a contracted employee though

>> No.49008431

>>49008390
>retaliation laws generally apply to both employees and contracted workers, as long as they are engaging in protected activity
Holy

>> No.49008438

>>49008387
>writing fanfiction
>Literally pulling lines from the doc

You're delusional, she won't fuck you.

>> No.49008543

>>49001838
the thing is the company doesn't have strict rules. the talents openly shit on management, play controversial games like the trolley thing that branded nijicancelled as a thing, they even played a censored version of cards against humanity (neither which would be possible without management's approval), jokes about sex are rampant, the guy you are replying to proves jokes about sponsorships happen too, parasocialism is encouraged, there are tons of instances where the usage of previous accounts weren't punished, even a political joke is made now and then.
apparently they're strict against zaion and nobody else, people are just calling out management's bullshit. they're lax if they deem so and strict if they deem so, there are no hard concrete rules or boundaries, at least none the audience (and future applicants like sayu a year ago) can see

>> No.49008542

>>49004390
literally because Zaion keeps feeding the drama lol
if she shutup it would be over

>> No.49008681

>>49004151
When you fuck up that many times in a span of 2 months, all those little sins add up to a big one, because you lose the plausible deniability of "oops, sorry, everybody makes mistakes sometimes right?" And it starts to look more like you aren't actually doing anything to avoid all these fuckups.

>> No.49008741

>>49004893
Selen keeps a nigger as a pet? BASED BASED BASED

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49008826

>>49008741
DOG NIGGAS

>> No.49008849

>>49008681
Keep in mind, it only took about two weeks or so before her first suspension where they questioned whether she wanted to be in Niji or not.

>> No.49008853

>>49008438
So true sis. Talking to your manager is definitely harassment. I can't believe the management just forgot to include that but put dee's nuts in.

>> No.49008895

>>49008826
Cute dog, Selen loves wieners confirmed.

>> No.49008930

>>49004390
If she just wanted to return to streaming, literally, the only thing she needed to address was Finanna accusing her of gaslighting. Airing the rest of it is just burning bridges in the most aggressive way possible, and without even actually making herself look much better, she mostly just made Anycolor look worse. Nobody that was gonna watch her gives a fuck about her maybe streaming copyrighted content, they MAYBE care about her manipulating another talent they liked. Corps that might jire her might care about streaming copyrighted content, but they'll care way more about the fact that she's demonstrated she'll try to burn the corp down on the way out if they ever fire her.

>> No.49009048

>>49008826
nice dog

>> No.49009124

>>49008930
>without even making actually making herself look much better

She didn't do all this for the viewers, even though you can guarantee she's going to have a massive viewer spike. That entire doc was a marketing campaign. She has the entire fucking indie scene (or at least anyone that 'matters') behind her. All of the faggots like Khyo False and Rev are sucking her dick, she's got massive indies in her twitter threads sucking her off, she released the doc and now she gets the chance at being Queen Bee for a while.

The doc was never about clearing air, or taking a stance about Corps.

>> No.49009128

>>49007163
Niji interns are illiterate SEAniggers who constantly shove their luxnoc dildos down their throat. Once they've made up their mind from that character assassination campaign there's nothing you can do to change them even when presenting the other side of the story so there's no point engaging with these troglodytes

>> No.49009210

>>49008826
I love my long-necked, tom-boy, gamer dragon!

>> No.49009241

>>49008826
big foot sized loafers back there

>> No.49009286

>>49009241
they look like those oversized character themed slippers. ngl, they're kinda comfy

>> No.49009495

>>49009124
What's the problem with that? She obviously won't be collabing with Nijikeks, not because she didn't want to, but because any Niji liver in their right mind won't touch her with a 10 foot pole, even before that document was released. The document was arguably the best way to use a broken bridge.
If she intended to do so, it's a brilliant move on her part, but most likely she just wanted to move on and wanted to salvage her reputation which Niji tried to disintegrate with that ridiculously inflated bullet list.

>> No.49009527

>>49008930
Finana was far from the biggest thing she was accused of. Twitterfags were calling her an actual pedophile, antisemitic and other shit. And those actually got big traction there since the first suspension to the firing. Niji's statements with no context would have big repercussions for anyone, you can't just leave those out in the air. There is no way she could just return to "normalcy" without explaining it and the other statements. You would think they were all a lot more serious than they actually ended up being without context.

>> No.49009606

>>49009124
And trying to fix her career is wrong because...?

>> No.49009792

>>49009124
Clearing your name after character assassination is perfectly fine, retard. Yes clearing your name obviously helps with marketing, who would have guessed.

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>>48999984
If someone edit a trial with Saul Goodman voice AI.
It would be kino

>> No.49010023

pyramid scheme: any moneymaking scheme, usually illicit, in which each participating investor recruits others and then collects from what those invest, so that an ever-increasing number of participants generate more and more profit for those who recruited them.

>> No.49010117

>>49008542
She's been completely silent until the doc and if you actually watched her stream last night, by the way first stream since termination, you would have seen that she barely talked about any of this shit.

>> No.49010236

>>49010117
every single time theres new youtube reactions and vt reactions its cause she said something that feeds more speculation. women cant help themselves with this shit. they have to talk and be heard but the word of legal entanglements isnt conducive to that.

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49010247

>>48999419
I would like to submit this evidence to the court records your honor

>> No.49010427

>>49008681
>When you fuck up that many times
At the end of the day it's up to the company to decide whether someone fits what they're seeking, but come on, using minor mistakes and phrasing it as if it's really bad, and saying there was no remorse?

And "looking like you aren't actually doing anything to avoid all these fuckups" is subjective. a cover she didn't know was copyrighted, a "deez nuts" joke, criticizing UNO, discussing stuff with her manager, and more, doesn't give off that image at all.

Sure you could excuse the termination as "likely justified from the management's perspective" either way, but the termination letter itself? Nah.

>>49008849
What was her first suspension for again?

>> No.49010554

>>49010427
Making decisions without consulting management first

>> No.49010831

>>49010554
So it was for "playing a cover of one of her genmates" and "dming a manager" right?

>> No.49011000

If they had just said they fired her for the rape joke it'd be pretty hard to defend her but they had to make the seething list and have all their retards pile onto her. Lack of professionalism really proved it was a two way street.

>> No.49011179

>>49011000
Nah, cause then they would have to fire Enna and who knows who else has joked about rape on stream as well as Vox who does sexual asmr where consent isn't even implied.

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49011183

>>49010831
>playing a cover of one of her genmates
That they probably don't have blanket rights to, because they're not the sole rights holders and we're talking Japanese law.

>"dming a manager"
We can run as many laps as you want on this. She was fighting them on the Genshin account, and then proceeded to fight them on other game accounts as well, and when nothing worked because a ruling had been made she started begging other managers to overrule her manager.

>> No.49011364

>>49011183
>That they probably don't have blanket rights to, because they're not the sole rights holders and we're talking Japanese law.
The legality isn't the focus of my point.

>begging
Here we go again. You really can't get enough of the boot taste. Asking if there's something that can be done is not begging for something to be overruled.

You, or that anon, said she was asked "if she even wanted to be in niji". The reason: playing a cover of one of your genmates, and talking (not begging) with management.

>> No.49011424

>>49010247
Please tell down

>> No.49011630

>>49011364
nah nah nah back the fuck up nigger. To that point ever step of the way she
A) Didn't consult management
B) Disregarded her management and looked for ways around it.
C) Directly fought management over what Niji saw as settled issues.

She showed blatant disregard for the company, so she was suspended and given time to think about whether she wanted to be there or not.

>> No.49011905

>>49011630
>2 pesos have been deposited into your account

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>> No.49012442

>>49011630
>A) Didn't consult management
For a single cover. From a genmate. That just shows she WANTED to be in niji. Shit happens.

>B) Disregarded her management and looked for ways around it.
But asking for advice from other managers isn't a complete disregard. This point just stems from you thinking she was "begging for an overrule" yet again. It would be a different story if she just kept streaming without listening to her management. She also states
>I DMed them stating how bad I felt that I kept making mistakes, that I didn’t know what to do (in order to continue being creative but not infringing on one rule or another)

>C) Directly fought management over what Niji saw as settled issues.
Nothing wrong with it, unless you think you're just supposed to do everything management tells you to and nothing else.

Conclusion: you just changed your wording you brainless monkey. None of this warrants asking if she wants to be there. It's just a catch phrase to make employees more compliant, and a redflag.

>> No.49012549

>>49011630
whoa whoa whoa
kyo uses the hard r and the a?

>> No.49012631

>>49002600
Sisters don't read anon, they are only hugely impressed by bullet points on a termination sheet. Having to read a 20 something page doc is too much work for their pretty little heads.

>> No.49012767

I do love that Nijisisters still cannot articulate why they hate her. She didn't insult any of their sacred progressive cows, she didn't actually do anything bad against any of the talents by their own admission, Feesh's hilarious "gaslighting" statement notwithstanding.
In fact, this was entirely a beef between management and Zaion which Zaion wanted to end on good terms and management refused to. This hatred the sisters have is the most corporate bootlicking type of mob behavior possible.

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>>48999984

>> No.49013038

>>49011179
They're already being hypocritical with other shit in the list. Blame the rape joke + management difficulties, then say you wish her the best and leave it at that. People will complain, but it won't linger like a bad fart.

>> No.49013527

>>49013037
Please delete this sir Luca and Shu are not sponsored by Amongus and this would make a shareholder nervous

>> No.49014004

>>49012767
>I do love that Nijisisters still cannot articulate why they hate her.
Because I don't. I think she's stupid because she didn't understand what she was getting into at all and ended up hurting her wave. But I don't think she's a particularly horrible person. I actually liked her when she was in Niji and wished to see her working with more of the other livers. She probably would've had great chemistry with Pomu and Nina just like she did with Maria.

>> No.49014130

>>48999984
Vox is their golden goose so they won't fire him.

>> No.49014163

>>48999984
>>48999419
the N is a black company

>> No.49015357

>>48999984
>>49009806
I tried. https://fakeyou.com/tts/result/TR:tc44e591avtbmh23evfzrbmcs4x77

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>>48999419
I would like to submit Enna making offensive remarks as evidence. https://youtu.be/L35lpJ2d7zA
Also pic related.

>> No.49016410

>>49008390
Ohhh, I wonder how this would relate with how Zaion suffered doxxing, death threats and libel from their initial suspension announcement, and got ZERO fucking support from the company?

>> No.49018293

>>49006099
And if you read what you copy paste or written it's pretty clear the thing she did was a very small action or plainly a very minor mistake. You're the type of parent who slap their children if they get a B test score.

>> No.49018388

>>49006504
Wow you're creating scenarios in your head now.
This is real life, not daytime soap.

>> No.49018544

>>49006925
Imagine blaming someone just because they're asking to be treated nicely and as an equal.

captcha: TWATSO
heh

>> No.49018598

>>49015357
Nice try anon

>> No.49019022

>>49007163
Reading this comment made me realize these nijilickers seems to live in some kind of abusive relationship.
Someone pointed out many Nijilickers are probably mostly Asians. So my guess they came from typical super strict Asian parents that willing to whip their child(ren) for every little mistake they made.
So as they grow up they normalize this kind of behaviour. For them employee(s) are children and management are parents.
So management have the same right as god, and the employees have to bow down and take every punishment as if they're the lowest human being on earth.
So when Zaion is fighting back, they're baffled and angry. How dare an American woman fighting back against her boss?
>"Every nails that stand out, will be hammered down"

>> No.49019157

all this over a fucking genshin account lmao. a game that literally EVVVVVVERYBODY who streamed it had to make a new account for but this dumb bitch just couldn't keep her mouth shut

>> No.49019240

>>49008380
Actually companies can show if the claim is true or not by showing proofs. That's why they start putting security cameras inside their office with voice recording capability.
The question is, Zaion has a huge stack of proofs for Anykara wrongdoing. Can Anykara show counter proof?

>> No.49019609

>>49008542
>"ZaIoN fEEdInG tHe DrAmA"
This will not happen if Anykara don't make a huge long list that pretty much defaming her and may cause irrepairable damage to her reputation. Of course she had to counter that.

Let say, if someone talk shit about you, like you're a thief (just because you accidentally drink her drink) and a rapist (just because you stare at her funny) to people around you, do you stay silent (and risk getting shunned by people) or you try to fix the misinformation?

>> No.49019984

>>49009527
>Twitterfags were calling her an actual pedophile, antisemitic and other shit. And those actually got big traction there
I'm not surprised. For twittards everyone's a hitler. If those twittards are given a modicum of power just a little bit they gonna use it to destroy innocent people life.

>> No.49020149

>>49019157
Do you even read the doc? There's fellow livers who used their old Genshin account and management is fine with that.

>> No.49020598

>>49014004
>I think she's stupid because she didn't understand what she was getting into at all
No one can predict what going to happen in their work environment when they join a company.
You're expecting her to immediately know the work culture of a company right away?
Even companies put their new employees in a trial period to let them getting used to the work culture.
Also to teach the work culture they will put said employees under an experienced manager. NOT TWO WEEKS OLD MANAGER.

>> No.49020664

>>49003444
unironically that is how real non-life threatening jobs work

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>>48999419

>> No.49021530

>>49008826
Cute dog.

>> No.49022196

>>49021016
kek

>> No.49022230

>>48999419
2 percent sanji.

>> No.49022591

>>48999984
No fucking way

>> No.49022599

>>49013527
Do you retards even hear yourselves when typing your garbage?

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49022694

>>49021016
OY VEY! IT'S ANOTHER SHOAH

>> No.49022705

>>49022599
I'm a touch typist myself

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>>49002222
wasted quads

>> No.49023416

>>49002515
"Because I said so" is a common flaw in east asian logic, it's a big problem with their cultures and part of why their systems are so brittle

>> No.49023510

>>49000631
>>49000000

>> No.49023907

>>49023416
Yep. There's a case where Casio engineer pretty much created the first MP3 player that like iPod. But rather than being celebrated and his creation getting mass produced and sold they berate him because he "overstepping" his boundaries and made his seniors angry. So they shelved his device and Apple came out with their iPod and pretty much dominated the market.
Also fun fact: It's the same thing with Fuji Xerox. They're the one who created GUI first but decided that it will not going to sell so they just put the prototype as tech display. Until Steve Jobs visited visited their office, saw the GUI, got intrigued and decided to learn about it and use it for their Mac OS. The rest is history, again.

>> No.49023931

So to sue her they need to do it in the USA while showing that they don't have selective enforcement of the rules and that let others do what she was fired for doing

>> No.49025148

>>49021016
what the fuck is this real?

>> No.49025443

>>48999984
AHHHHH DELETE THIS NOWW

>> No.49025457

>>49025148
Israel, I'm Jesus.

>> No.49025819

TOTAL NIJJER DEATH

>> No.49025956

>>49012767
>I do love that Nijisisters still cannot articulate why they hate her.
the company has decreed that it shall be so
all praise to the glorious company

>> No.49029151

>>49025956
And they don't even get that 2 percent cut lol

>> No.49030583

>>49023907
Fuji had nothing to do with PARC

>> No.49032154

>>48999984
Hate vox akuma, but if we're gonna shit on nijiniggers I rather do it while being factually accurate. He says a bit after "I'm not sponsored."
https://youtu.be/Rv2uR6YvhGQ?t=4618 it's a shitty way to save himself getting vacationed, but he does say it.

>> No.49032572

>>49032154
In a sane world, a joke is a joke, and doesn't need an immediate suspension by management.

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