/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine a world where Pomu got into Hololive and the Watson model while Ame went to Nijisanji...
Things could've been so much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
Ame fits Phase Connect more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
I'd prefer Pomu to stay indie

[Anonymous No.]

But we would’ve had no AmeSame kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983843
Not worth it.
It was kino but it's dead now so who cares?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
You need tits to apply to Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983815
But the male collabs Ame loved to spam is Niji behaviour, does Phase have that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983861
Is that why Rushia was fired?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983919
>loved to spam
do you live in a parallel dimension

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983919
>Pippa x Merry
>10ma x E-celebs
>spam
They had more male collabs than Ame

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983919
Why do you think Phase Connect is called "boyfriend connect"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
Kill yourself Holo beggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
/b/omu in the right place

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983995
Again, in a single month:
>3 different Worms collab POVs
>Gartic Phone with Stars JP and EN
>Astroneer with Tempus and ID
If that wasn't a desperate spam on her part you are delusional.

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>>48984030
Man i missing out on this drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983843
>AmeSame
It's called Gurame, newfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984098
She didn't start Gartic Phone she joined in. Aruran and Ollie started it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983843
They couldn't keep the act for more than a year so i don't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984224
While she never joined male collabs before this.

[Anonymous No.]

Holobeggars are once again at it.
Roru, romeo even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984098
>a fucking tournament that by nature necessitated multiple streams because of the length of each game and most of the players being nee
>invited to fill space
>one stream
yeah dude totally spamming
you are a fucking clown

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984326
This is the cope we are going with now?
Again, all of this in a single month.
Not even Kronii went this hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984393
>cope
where are the homo collabs since then, retard?

[Anonymous No.]

Ame would do worse without the hololive brand. Her being in Niji wouldn't change anything about her as she would still be a loner. Pomu would have higher numbers in holo but would barely have anyone to collab with but I feel she would collab more often with what was there as they're all nice girls really.

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>>48984450
Spread out in different months. Maybe the backlash got to her.
Or maybe even Tempus felt targeted by Ame's spiteful behaviour towards her fans as if she only used them to prove "i can do what i want, Ameway!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984572
you are such a sad, pathetic excuse for a human. you feel attacked and targeted because ame wanted to do something nice for people. what an evil, wicked creature you are.

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>>48984477
She wouldn't have to deal with the idol culture she hates though. Could collab with any Niji male she wanted with no repercussions.
I don't think she would be a loner in Nijisanji, would definitely have more friends or even a clique.

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>>48984649
>the idol culture she hates though
The voices in your head acting up again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983843
That died in the same year that was created.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984631
>Ame wanted to do something nice for people
Correction: Ame wanted to do something nice for Tempus

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984703
>he keeps samefagging the same post

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984689
She's gonna watch Oshi no Ko with her viewers anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984713
tempus is people
you are trash who thinks ame doing something nice for them is a direct attack on you and people like you as an act of spite because you're actually an evil, spiteful person

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984752
Ah yes, the anime loved by people who hate idol culture like Ina, Kanata and Suisei

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
No, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe in a different timeline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984786
Don't bother replying to retards. People who hate on Ame don't even watch streams and are just here to shitpost. They probably can't even spell the name of her fanbase correctly.

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>>48984811
Ina and Suisei do hate idol culture if you didn't realize that.

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>>48984631
if you do something that your audience doesn't want, you have to deal with the consequences. Same for any other product or service. It's incredibly entitled to think oneself immune to this. Imagine if instead of simply ceasing to sell new coke when it bombed, coca-cola told it's customers that they are bad people for not liking new coke. Customers would rightfully tell them to fuck off.

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>>48984811
sounds like there's alot of idol culture fatigue in hololive

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>>48984741
>anon says something wrong
>everyone points out that he's wrong
>"haha it's the same person"
Can someone please tell me why the absolute dumbest people always pop up around this time on this board?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984786
Go to sleep Ame

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984891
euros waking up

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984890
Gee what gave it away?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984888
if you want to be treated right you should try being a better person

[Anonymous No.]

Ame would have jumped off a bridge if she joined the black company since she'll be broke. Pomu can't save that dumpster fire of a gen with no chemistry and god help us if Kiara had her own clique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984944
If you want to be treated right you should try being around good people, which Ame isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984944
Telling customers to "improve themselves" is actually not a great business practice.

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>>48984921
I'm European so I'm more inclined to believe this board is just naturally brain damaged

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>>48984960
Considering her life was in the gutter even Nijisanji would pay the bills. She wouldn't be broke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985053
money isn't everything
>>48984991
she's a much better person than you

[Anonymous No.]

Amelia would still be boring no matter what skin she wore

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985187
That's not a high bar

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>>48983780
i don't think hololive is too fond of hotel room male offcollabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985187
presumably Ame's promotion of tempus was intended to make hololive some money. I don't know why you assume tempus was always suppose to be a charity case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985262
clearly
>>48985327
>presumably
presumed by people like you, who always thinks about money i suppose

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985297
That was Finana's fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985409
hololive also isn't too fond of throwing your genmates under the bus

[Anonymous No.]

Pomu should have been Ame
Finana should have been Ina
Elira should have been Calli

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984572
holy meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985428
What is Haachama Vs. Matsuri?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985180
She would make maybe 1/4 of her income as a Niji which is enough to live on but not exactly as secure like Hololive is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985327
Funny that you're talking about charity in relation to the one person in Hololive to actually do a charity drive lmao

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>>48985398
it's a for profit corporation. They have a fiduciary duty to make money for their shareholders.

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>>48985449
1/4 of Hololive income is still quite decent. Definitely more than the average wagefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985472
i contributed to that drive. Guess what, it was an animal charity not a "save the male chubbas" charity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985478
yeah that's why ame can turn off superchats whenever she feels like it without so much as a slap on the wrist

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985589
so someone that wants to do something nice for animals is believable but doing something nice for coworkers isn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985624
Are her coworkers in need of charity? Think about that for a second

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985731
do you need a reason to be nice to someone?

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>>48985624
her audience wasn't upset at the former and didn't object to it; People were upset at the latter and she dismissed the objections and told folks to improve themselves, so a lot fucked off. No one is obligated to stick with people that act like that.

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>>48985784
>a lot
you have proof of this, right, proof that her viewer engagement dropped off? for example, the average likes on her member posts and such?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985773
Based on the entertainment standpoint nobody asked for? Yes.
Viewers first, coworkers later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984867
Why would people watch the streams of a vtuber they dislike? Do you have brain damage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985869
>why would you discuss about someone you don't watch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985855
i like how you can't approach this from a people standpoint because you know you're not a good person

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985773
If "being nice to them" entailed alienating a significant portion of her fan base, then yes, she should have needed a very good reason to do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985900
Because the streams they watched turned them off and they still dislike that person? Do you have brain damage, are you not able to understand people can have tried a thing before, disliked it and will give their opinion and don't have to fucking try it again every day to know it's shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985933
if "being nice to someone" alienates people they're not good people

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985920
You act like any female streamer is a good person.

[Anonymous No.]

Teammates monitoring this thread for anyone who says anything mean about yellow woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985944
sure you can, people will still call you retarded for being an uninformed idiot though

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985979
what a way to out yourself as a tourist. Back to twitter with you

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985920
I like how you have shit spelling and grammar because you're an esl and your opinion is worthless by default.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do holokeks constantly beg for Niji talents? If their talents are this bad, they should simply watch other agencies or indies.
Oh wait, I forgot who I am talking about. It's holokeks. They would eat a huge turd if it is wrapped in a blue dorito wrapper.

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>>48986017
restart your router and try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985975
nice deflection. maybe some day you can look yourself in the mirror without thinking about those awful women.

[Anonymous No.]

I know you guys are busy fighting and all, but I really like the Pomu model. It's pretty expressive and cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48986012
i accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>>48986079
Okay, what if she kept the Pomu model in Hololive too then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985962
Being nice to a significant portion of her audience and "being nice" to tempus as you put it were mutually exclusive. She dismissed the former. It's unsurprising that this hurt her channel. It is what it is.

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>>48986040
Restarted, but it didn't help. Holobeggars still exist and my question is still unanswered.

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>>48985996
it's such a weak way to deflect criticism
if he watches it you'll tell him he's a retard for wasting his time watching garbage and if he doesn't anymore you'll pretend it disqualifies his opinion, of course without providing anything of substance yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>48986255
bro, you're still not a new ip

[Anonymous No.]

>>48986185
Then we get kino pomutori instead of takamori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48986220
Live and die by your own decisions as they say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48986280
Bruh, I have a static IP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48986278
if you're just plain wrong about something and you out yourself as an uninformed retard you will be called a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>48986220
>significant portion
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>48986499
Some of these people really are schizos it aint just ironic apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983815
Maybe years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
For which company?

[Anonymous No.]

>not even 40 ips
Is this a new low?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
The funny thing is that nothing would have changed from kiaras persoective

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you guys saying Pomu won't collab with males if she joined Hololive when she off-collab with a male meanwhile Ame avoided that even when she went to Japan & offered a tour at homostars' studio?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48988889
>Why are shitposters lying and making shit up to fit a narrative

[Anonymous No.]

>>48988463
posts is triple the IPs, it's just the samefagging faggots that hates ame because she threw tempus a bone. those collabs were kino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984867
Teacucks?

[Anonymous No.]

>Can't even win in a dedicated shitposting thread.
Lmao, no wonder he doesn't even dare to try in global & Ame split nowadays.
Offcollab with Kiara confirmed, btw.

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>>48984326
Weird cope considering it got so bad that people started to think there would be no more big female collabs. And it wasn’t just here, reddit, twitter, and technically youtube but they were just begging.

>>48984649
It doesn’t matter what you believe she would be doing objectively worse in nijien. She’s doesn’t know jp, she’s not that much better than selen in the creative department who’s also just whatever, she’d be forced to do sweet voice packs and sell the occasional gfe merch. Oh and here’s the big one all of nijien is worse off than myth so she physically can’t do better besides they still have to practice singing release song and eventually perform.

>>48984752
>>48984890
Oshi no ko the anime where the idol Ai died a legend with a thousands of fans loving her without knowing her private life. Oshi no ko the anime where a 16 year old girl gets pregnant and then killed soon after because she didn’t follow the rule of no male relationships. Personally I think being alive is more fun but if you want to own idol culture follow in her footsteps and kys

[Anonymous No.]

Ame in niji will solve a lot of problems with how supportive she is, she knew when someone is in trouble & will help them without asking for anything in return. Something that is completely alien to that company.

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>>48991361
>Weird cope considering it got so bad that people started to think there would be no more big female collabs.
>Pico Park collab literally in the same week.
>Rust Battle Royale collab literally in the same week.
>She already confirmed big collabs for anniv & Halloween.
Is this the part where you said those don't count?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48984786
>>48984867
Are you in her mind? Can you prove she’s not doing it maliciously? She chose to avoid male collabs before because she thought her fans wouldn’t be happy about it her exact words. Can you say with absolute certainty that those collabs weren’t used to punish her fans? How do you know tempus isn’t human garbage as well? One of them reads these threads and possibly participates. One of them tried to keep doing collabs with a racist bitch does that not make him one? You can’t substantiate any of these claims any more than that other anon. You’re defending when at best she doesn’t care about you and at worse hates you but I can’t prove that either. >>48986424
So knowing that you know just as little as all the other anons here who don’t watch her why do you get to call other’s a retard? You’re also a retard by your own standards. What about all the lies Ame said do you ignore those as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48991801
i think you genuinely need help

[Anonymous No.]

See this is the problem for this schizo, he genuinely thinks someone as kind as Ame will never exist, let alone in the western vtubing world full of backstabbers.
When Ame made a studio for Kiara & helped her for free, but when it comes to her own event, she didn't ask for any help, at all.

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>>48991604
Let’s start bottom to top then. The anniversary can only be myth, it was extremely low effort, and they have to do a stream when merch is involved. Halloween is in October for one and for all we know could have originally been mixed because the only people we knew involved in the beginning was Ame. The closest thing to female contact for Ame in the rust event was calling Gura a bitch, she sectioned herself off trying to do a dumb ramp after everything else didn’t go as she expected. Piko park seemed like a very last minute collab for no other reason than it was a night collab with Kiara involved and almost all collabs involving her have to be on her time.

Now except for the Anniversary which is management mandated all of these were at the end of the month or didn’t even happen that month. Kiara even mentioned there being not as many girl collabs happening.
>Weird cope considering it got so bad that people started to think there would be no more big female collabs.
Yes people started to think that because the only big all female collab for nearly 2 weeks was the anniversary and even longer if you don’t count management mandated collabs like the anniversary. What part of that is incorrect

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
I can't tell if this is another nijianti falseflagging as a holobeggar asking for pomu or some ungrateful fuck dissing ame despite everything she did for holoen as a whole

[Anonymous No.]

>>48991405
But would they appreciate her help?
Finana would accuse her of gaslighting

[Anonymous No.]

>>48993011
>Literally answered with "Those don't count".
Kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48985430
Finana doesn't deserve her current avatar, much less Ina's

[Anonymous No.]

>>48991846
No argument?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48991846
>I genuinely think you need help
It flows much better that way, also this is an anonymous message board you reading my message in a crazy tone is on you and the voices in your head. Nothing I said there was an opinion it’s just a fact that you don’t know what she thinking. If you’re defending her you’re an obsessed lovesick puppy and if you’re attacking her you’re a creepy schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48993204
It's alright, like I said Ame expects nothing in return, she is doing it because of her own kindness & heroism. Reminder, she took care of her grandma till her last day despite her grandma hating her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
Myth would have been doomed because they would have no technician to set up any of the collabs or big projects. They would have been like headless chickens wandering around aimlessly doing their own thing.

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>>48984703
It wasn't the girls'fault though. It was the legion of retards that plagued every Ame stream with "WhErE iS gUrA!?" and all the SCs asking Ame how Gura is doing. Those are the same idiots that think collabing with men is a war crime. Those morons ("""fans""") ruin everything.

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>>48993231
You should download an app, maybe use youtube, or take night school as reading is a really important skill. Greens not working so do you think brackets will help?
>[People started to think there would be no more big female collabs]
I feel you should really focus on that line. Here’s some alternative examples since you’re pretty slow. People thought the Earth was flat, people thought the earth was the center of the world, people thought stars would never be the tour guides holofes. Is this enough or do you need more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48993689
Pomu sets a lot of tech stuff for Niji EN and much like Ame, it goes unnoticed.
I propose a trade off

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
>Things could've been so much better.
no it wouldn't, her style of stream definitely screams kiara so she would've had the same amount ccv in 1-2k.
Not much people like watching the type of streams they do.

No hate on pomu but I'd rather have ame in Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48993887
Yeah, maybe you should read the part where it said Pico Park, Rust Battle Royale & confirmed multiple girls-only collabs were in the same week as the homo collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48993698
You mean the people who also appeared on Gura’s stream? She never minded it and she still doesn’t care when you bring up other holo girls. And do you think these people are somehow worse than everyone spamming “WhErE iS tHe BoIs?” Or immediately start spamming their names when they play a game that they’ve also played even though 99% of the time jp played it first and the girls say it’s because of that member. Are these people not toxic as well or are they real fans? Kanata also believes something similar is she ruining hololive? Your hate is weirdly one sided when this happens to everyone and it doesn’t cause problems

[Anonymous No.]

Ame has officially the worst. Holy shit with this buckbroken schizos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48993359
>No argument?
>Are you in her mind?
you can't start with that and than do what you did

[Anonymous No.]

>>48994073
Not even joking you should take some reading lessons because you’re not understanding the point. People thought that and it turned out to be wrong at what point have I said these collabs didn’t happen. I really hope you’re just a retard and not a shitposter because it means you can still get better. Also you keep bringing up rust when she was barely apart of the finale and there was an all female Among us collab. It was hosted by Kiara also at the end of the month directly after piko park that she was in but you’re ignoring it. So again either a retard that should take some lessons never hurts to take a step forward or a shitposting tourist

[Anonymous No.]

No vtuber ever deserves to be in NijiEN. Ame is fine where she is.

[Anonymous No.]

this thread is so esl it hurts

[Anonymous No.]

>>48994726
Word.
But Pomu would have been better for Myth instead of a roastie

[Anonymous No.]

>>48994670
It's ok anon, you can just ignore the part where I said Pico Park, Rust Battle Royale & confirmed multiple girls-only collabs were in the same week as the homo collab. You even only use Rust season 1 when the battle royale happened in season 2, you only watch the Gura clip I assume, it's alright, this is the catalog bait thread, nobody will judge you for that.
There is no such thing as "People started to think there would be no more big female collabs", maybe in your head only.

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>>48994655
Are (you) in her mind though? You are defending her with your own narrative

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody else leave Ame for Pomu during Ame's late 2021 decline?

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>>48983780
Niji would have a free mocap studio, the concert wouldn't have been canceled, Selen and Ame would organize events and tournaments every month, etc etc

And holo would have a Kiara sucker friend

The real comparisson would be swapping Kiara and Pomu since both are similar

[Anonymous No.]

>>48995695
I left her for Fauna

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>>48995853
I would compare Kiara to Nina at this point, both were the most hated members of their respective gen/wave but they pretty much managed to win the respect most people while their fellow gen mates went on the decline.

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>>48983843
It would be more genuine since pomu is actually a lesbian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48995935
Yeah the Teamates to Saplings pipeline is real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48996051
They actually have so few chat overlaps.

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>>48994869
I get it shitposter it is because nobody’s denying your point but you keep pretending people are. You even bring up rust season 1 even though they were still on collab ban till around the 3rd week of August. Have fun fighting windmills

[Anonymous No.]

>>48996243
Because they don't watch Ame anymore

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>>48996027
DYRBI?

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>>48996243
That would mean after they leave here they no longer watch her. Like when people tried to say jew gura was stealing her viewers, despite having like 1% of her everything she actually did have high chat overlap with gura because they weren’t really leaving. Though apparently that’s not so uncommon with small corpos

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>>48996328
My experience with ex-teamates (being one myself) is once you drop Ame, you just drop her. No watching her casually. I haven't watched in over half a year. Haven't even bother to watch big streams like her birthday. I never even bothered to listen to her original song.

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>>48996278
>Rust season 1.
Where? You were the one that said something about the finale & calling Gura a bitch (season 1) here >>48993011.
Keep backpedalling as a windmill, because you are good at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>don't watch Ame
>Can't stop talking about Ame

[Anonymous No.]

>>48996415
Nta but woman sleeping or experimenting with other women is weirdly pretty normal. Real lesbian women aren’t real though. My proof is the existence of dykes and straps mimicking men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983843
>i dont want to be known a gura's friend
Bitch killed it like within like three months.

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>>48996671
Yeah, that's why they touch each other feet under the table.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
>Pomu the whore that OFFCOLLABED with men at a hotel
No thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>48996760
You mean the most gayest man on the entire planet

[Anonymous No.]

>>48996794
Lmao the cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48996577
That was Rust season 2 finale on September 1. Shitposter that doesn’t watch hololive as expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>48996875
>JP season 1.
Nobody cares.

[Anonymous No.]

We did it bros! We made it to 50!

[Anonymous No.]

>>48991361
>it got so bad that people started to think there would be no more big female collabs.
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCxD1xB4tls
Announced as soon as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25mgr5CZGaM
Where do you even get that? The catalog?

[Anonymous No.]

>>48996027
GuraPomu would be as bad as SameTori.

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>>48996524
Really? I watch her casually since the Tempus fiasco. Actually only the New Vegas streams because i like the game...

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>>48984326
I don't fucking get it, man. I haven't even watched her a whole lot but Ame is just one of the nicest and most pleasant girls and people still want to grasp at angles to shit on her. Of course she doesn't mind Stars, Shien is her oshi. No different than Bae with Roberu. Sometimes I think I'm a loser but then I see some of the most pathetic posters acting like they were married to Ame and she cheated on them. How does someone like this even function in real life? I've only seen StarsJP collabs and it's always lighthearted and cheerful, a far cry from the shipbaiting they do in NijiEN.

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>>48997841
>No different than Bae
See why Bae is the runt of Holo EN? No one wants to watch a girl drooling for other males.

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>>48997992
the shien thing was known way before she sang along to regis's fly me to the moon which is when people started making an uproar.
># garbage
oh boy this shit again
i think that's more to do with bae being an unrelatable zoomer in a subpar EN timezone and arguably not a great streaming voice (which i dont mind as much as others, i feel). she's obviously not a basic girl but she comes across as a basic streamer to me, in the sense she's not someone i go out of my way to watch. she doesn't have a great hook or gimmick or at least doesn't pursue it (like more JP collabs).
also explain kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

The people who hate Amelia really are just terrible people all around, huh? Look at how desperate these losers are to hate someone who only ever wanted to help the people around her. It's fucking disgusting.

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>>48997169
Those happened at the same time they weren’t announced at the same time. Again my statement doesn’t say that female collabs stopped because we know it didn’t, that was just the thoughts. They now preface big collabs by saying it will be all girls. If you think female collabs didn’t slow down more power to you

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>>48999175
A girl as kind as Ame is just unreal to them. Their basic argument is just "She lied, trust me bro" because they can't believe someone like her exists. Let alone being successful while still kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48999412
>that was just the thoughts.
That was just you. Idol Showdown torunament, Diablo 2, ametori offcollab, Spelling Bee, FO76 already confirmed btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48999412
you're fucking schizo, dude

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijinigs are so desperate for an Ame-like figure on their side they resort to making up scenarios in their head

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>>48998909
Nta but your excuse for why bae was and remained a runt is because you think she’s a bad streamer? Have you seen kronii’s schedules and her choice of games? How about mumei? Fauna and her voice? Irys? There’s maybe 3 good en streamers, and not that many in the other branches either. Cute girls doing things with other cute girls is why they thrive, that and the idol thing. If bae never drooled over him she would never have fallen below fauna. I don’t understand why people act like Hololive lives in a vacuum when there’s rival corpos to compare to. Nijisanji has most of there top talents as males with the few high females relying on the males.
Ame rarely brought him up on stream and by her own admission didn’t want to do male collabs because she thought her fans wouldn’t like it. If you could find a stream of her doing a duet with him or fawning over him on stream people will retract their point
Kiara is a special case because she wants numbers but she’s bad at games, makes bad game choices, used to make her mic bad, and her commentary is only about herself instead of the game making it harder for fans of said game to watch as if she was both trying too hard and not hard enough. Like if I gave you a shovel to dig a hole but you chose a spoon. You’re obviously trying but it looks to me as if you aren’t serious.

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>>48996827
>gay men are not real
Your cope is bigger, stop trying to find an excuse to make yourself look less schizo

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>>48983780
stop fooling yourself pomu is shit, also not tits

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>>49000739
Uki lusts for females all the time. Your gay man in this case is not real

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>>48999583
>>48999703
I don’t get what point you’re making? Guy said people thought and turns out they thought wrong. There was multiple offcollabs in January, an among us collab in november, easter collab in April. At what point was it said the girls stopped collabing? At point did it say the people that thought this was correct? Was the idol showdown thing prefaced with it will be all girls?
Can’t understand how you people can read something and then makeup arguments that weren’t made

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>>49001030
>people thought
Where? Just him (you)?

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>>48999175
>>48999491
I genuinely respect you for half of what you say. You kept it solely on her without trying to downplay others which happens everytime people try to compliment some of the talents. It’s always shitposter trying to start an argument so it’s refreshing to see.

My problem is with the other half so I would like to offer a hypothetical to you
>If it turns out management did force her to make these collabs is she still kind?
>What’s your opinion on her not doing a big welcome collab for council?
>What if Ame is dating one of them and she only did it to boost their appeal?
>What if she wanted to change hololive and make it more accepting to stars?
>What if this was because she was bored?
>What if she did it to keep fauna or gura out?
I don’t attack the character of people I don’t know and I don’t defend it either. These anons say she’s a bitch, you call them schizos and say she’s kind but none of you know her. Unless you’re hinging it on you loving her then you’re just an ordinary schizo like everyone else

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>>49002061
>What if Ame is evil?
See>>48999491 if your argument is based on "She lied, trust me bro" then you have no argument at all.

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>>49002297
That’s not the argument. The first guy said she just wanted to help them so I based the hypotheticals around that situation. The argument isn’t whether they’re wrong or you’re right it’s why do you think you’re right with there being 0 proof for either of you.

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>>49002061
Do you watch HoloEN at all? Because there is no way you're asking any of these questions genuinely if you do. Amelia has done so much for Myth, ID, and Council that it's ridiculous that you're accusing her of doing special favors for Tempus. And if you're going to say that management forced her hand in helping Tempus you might as well apply that to all of her interactions with the entire rest of Hololive, at which point we have no discussion at all.

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>>49003008
Explain the lack of special favors for Council and the ID branch

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>>49002969
>so I based the hypotheticals around that situation.
>hypotheticals.
In short, she lied, trust me dude. I'm right based on what is shown on the screen on how selfless & kind she is, not hypothetical arguments.

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>>49003443
>Explain the lack of special favors for Council and the ID branch
Just say that you don't watch ID or Council.

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>>49003648
>Kiki
>Lia
>Aletta
>Oceanne
>Riifu
>Yuko
>Kson
>Nazuna
>Silver/Iron mouse whichever you choose to believe
I can continue with other vtubers and this is while ignoring non vtubers that have been exposed. I don’t know these people and I won’t speak on them but these are all people that turned out to be different then what they show on screen. You can defend them, you can like them,and you can have whatever opinion you want. They could all be nice, they could be in the middle or mean. Can you say with absolute certainty any of the other girls I mentioned are kind?

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>>49004406
See >>48991965

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>>49003648
Now prove she did not lie

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>>49003008
>Hypothetical is an imagined purpose for reason or example
Did you see how the other anons didn’t take offense to the questions themselves? It’s because they aren’t serious these are just possible examples where I could probably come up with 2 for every emotion you give me.
Now if you want to focus on that particular question the anon I responded to said she just wanted to help people. So the point of the question is why didn’t she do this help for Council and since you brought up ID them as well. You responded saying she helped the girls behind the scenes but it was probably the same for them as well no? So now I’ll ask you a simple and non hypothetical question. What was different about them that she didn’t need to plan a welcome collab for council or id but they needed one? The focus is on why didn’t she do this for the others.

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>>49004946
Because Tempus isn't naturally welcome to the company like new members of HoloEN or ID would be welcome to the rest of the branch.

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>>49004946
>why didn’t she do this help for Council and since you brought up ID them as well
she did

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>>48983780
Ame built HoloEN on her back. Be thankful because if not for her, HoloEN would be just like NijiEN

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>>48999798
Dude they should just start paying other people to do everything for them like Ame always does with "her projects"

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>>49005528
doesn't selen already do that

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>>49005342
Ame wants to build Holo EN to be like Niji EN

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>>49004499
Can you give me a stream, clip, or scenario of a member talking down or attacking another member? Have you seen all the supposed friends of streamers turning on each other later when they’re no longer in the same group? You can have your opinion that she’s kind but you seriously can’t state it as fact

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>>49005700
Beats me , the only niji content i consume is the occasional pomu stream so i have no idea what selen does

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>>49005787
No. Ame BUILT HoloEN to what it is now.

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>>49005845
>She lied, trust me bro.

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>>49005902
What is this fucking cope? ame isnt nearly as important as you make her out to be , her studio is subpar and any professional studio you rent would blow hers out of the park , Ame als by far isnt the only tech versed holo either , like it was botan for example who helped Kiara packing her pc in Japan , the Whole "holo/ameverse" chat shit is just cobbled together assets somebody else did for her , like you faggot treat her like the new coming of jesus even if all of this would have very well been possible without ame , dont get me wrong i even like ame but you're blowing her up to a ridiculous amount and putting her on a retarded pedestal here

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>>49006132
>her studio is subpar and any professional studio you rent would blow hers out of the park
Kiara literally said she'd rather use Ame's studio because professional studios get anal about doing any small thing not explicitly being rented out for and she'd have much more freedom recording at Ame's.

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>>49005902
Here it comes

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>>49005290
She didn’t they debuted in August and there was no big welcome collab in September or October planned by her.

>>49005107
Why didn’t she invite jp to the worms tournament if it’s a welcome? She could have done one for uproar as well then. If they’re a no go because jp then who did tempus need to be welcomed to? Besides cover broke multiple of there own rules for them how much more welcomed can they get?

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>>48985430
While you’re absolutely retarded
>Elira should’ve been Calli
Is 100% true

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>>49006308
Oh no Kiara not liking rules that are put in place to ensure the maximum amount of quality delivered is totally more important, just watch her whine when it doesnt come out as she wanted and i even say this as a kfp , she never thinks about the consequences her contrarianism has , like i said i even like ame and what she did for holo , but the time for cheap chinese imitations is over , that worked in the begging but wont work forever

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>>48983780
The closest equivalent to Ame would be Selen because of her projects and organization
What the fuck would Pomu even contribute to

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>>49006544
Pomu would be a good idol. Instead of an anti-idol like Ame

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>>49006458
>If they’re a no go because jp then who did tempus need to be welcomed
Uproar has literally the entire rest of JP Homos. Tempus was the first of their kind. See also how she didn't need to welcome Tempus Vanguard because they already had Tempus HQ to welcome them to the family.

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>>49006619
Yeah? Then why won't she make idol concerts for her friends then?

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>>49006538
I seriously don't believe you are KFP.

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>>49006619
we already have Kiara the idolfag we don't need another one

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>>49006538
Where is the 4k 120fps concert from Cover?

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>>49006698
You can believe what you want sheeple , there's no lie in any of my posts

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just sunk cost because some holofags haven't move on from nijicn yet?

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>>49006698
Not the first time Kiara complained about Ame's studio quality

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>>49006882
Point me to the first time, bruh.

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>>49006671
Because Kurosanji is not an idol company

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>>49006308
Nta but are you saying you believe a professional studio is worse than Ames? The implication is that Ame is more willing to do deal with her very persnickety personality not that it was really good

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>>49006882
Shut your whore mouth sister

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>>49007019
It's good enough that Kiara considers having a bit more freedom to be worth the trade-off in quality, yes.

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>>49007042
lmao I forgot about this
Kiara is the closest to Pomu and even she wouldn't take her over Watson

[Anonymous No.]

pomu will never be part of Hololive. accept it and move on.

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>>49006777
You mean the one that had to be revamped like several times by Kanauru and almost didnt arrive on time because the mocap data was complete shit and he took super long to fix it ? The one where the rebroadcast was even a completely nother render because kiara wasnt happy with the quality ? Listen like i said in the beginning Ame was EN's saviour (and im not tryin to take that from her) but them having way more ressources at their disposal now made her stuff obsolete

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>>49006906
Kiara before her concert birthday made at Ame's studio:
"This is not be up to Cover's studio quality but we tried our best"

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>>49007281
>complained
nigga...

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>>49006658
Myth was welcomed by their sister Gen in gokisei.

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>>49007230
>he
wait, kanauru is a dude?

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>>49007230
Yeah, the one that arrived even faster than Gura's bd using a professional studio.
The one with 4k resolution, yeah that one.

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>>49007281
this nigga thinks pomu could whip up a Cover quality concert when the best she can do is an offcollab with a guy in a hotel room

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>>49007305
Myth was also a much bigger hit than gokisei was at the time.

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>>49007373
Gura probably just ghosted them as she always does kek

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>>49006777
Not covers fault youtube can’t do 120fps unless that’s changed last year. And 4k isn’t even possible for most youtube users

[Anonymous No.]

>>49007320
Yes, he just uses a tranny pic profile

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>>49007101
Then we agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>49007712
>we

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>>49007208
If you think Kiara would choose Ame over Pomu you are clearly delusional.
Reminder of the time she left Ame on camera control while she collabed with Pomu never acknowledging her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49007375
>Offcollab with Uki!
>Helping Uki try straight sex for the first time.

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>>49007373
>>49007490
They canceled Gura’s live even though it was done.
Less than half the world has 4k screens and unless there’s been changes recently only 1 phone has a 4k display so it’s doesn’t really matter

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>>49007994
Are you retarded? Ame didn't want to be acknowledged, she even disguises herself as Bubba at other times when she doesn't want to make her presence felt when acting as camera control for other VR collabs. She even made a tiny version of Ame Bee so it would be harder for viewers to find her when she accidentally wanders in on the screen like people did with the Bubba model.

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>>49000739
There's no such thing as a fully gay man just like there is no such thing as a fully straight woman. Every single man I have ever met that says they are gay turns out to be bi after they fuck some guys girlfriend, it has happened so often its insane.

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>>49008307
How many times have you gotten cucked bro?

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>>49007375
Cover quality? No , Ame quality? You basically only need to buy the shit and read the instructions but i doubt Pomu has the same income as Ame has. these cameras are kinda expensive

[Anonymous No.]

>>49008108
He's not gay, he lusts for females on Twitter. Keep coping though

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983815
not sad enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983815
Isnt this the company that allows their yabbit to dox past lives of holotalents?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49008392
Not me, friends of mine. I've known 5 guys who had their girlfriend cheat on them with a supposed gay guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
I think Ame is great and I'm a Mythfag but this does seem like it would have worked well, imagining it. But you never know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
Imagine if it wasn't Sand and instead literally anyone from Obsydia

[Anonymous No.]

>>49008950
you're thinking of nijisanji

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>>48983843
>AmeSame kino
>ship that the fandom hyped into death and now suffers from massive withdrawal symptoms they brought upon themselves

lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>49009557
Nah pretty sure that was pippa on stream even

>>49009143
I doubt it since ameis probably too catty/spiteful for them thinking back to that one rust stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>49008950
OH no. She connected DDK with Mori! OMG!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49010016
my bad i read it as >doxing their own talents

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[Anonymous No.]

>>49010240
I dont quite get whats your problem here ? Thats 3-4 posts per person on average, you think thats too much on a board discussing vtubers or what ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49010792
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Would be a great fit but I would hate it because I could never watch Ame Rainpuff out of principle

I don't fuck with the Niji shit my nigga

[Anonymous No.]

49010080
So, shit like this is allowed now ? Where's the deadbeat meido if you need them for once ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49011690
What does Da Donkey Kong have to do with Mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49006544
>projects and organization
Pomu literally sent Lazulight to space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
I actually think this a good trade

[Anonymous No.]

>>49000693
we're laboring a point about my preferences but i think moom, fauna and kronii all have easy, simple to understand appeal. if you can handle indonesian, kobo is a much better brat to watch that speaks English and you completely sidestepped the timezone issue for a western audience. if we're talking about a niche, then bae doesn't really have one. although i think she's up there with moom and kiara for korean fans, right? if she does more with 3D, like Filian-tier spam, then I think she can blow up because of her dancing skills. she's also a decent singer when she doesn't do the rat voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49015345
Kiara and Bae should grab a third member that can dance and lean into 3d kpop choreo videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>49015345
Based retardGOD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
lol
lmao
fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
>Things could've been so much better
>Pomu
>without metal gear perms
I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017730
Snake ? Snaaake! Snaaaaaakkeeee!!!

[Anonymous No.]

Nigga really post this thread once a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>49023304
>Nigga really bumped this in page 10
You're not fooling anyone op

[Anonymous No.]

>>49023479
Bitch ass nigga lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9VcgE0Eq1M

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
>Wanting to throw Ame into the wolves
WTF is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49024367
Because Ame is a Niji girl in Hololive clothing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49027129
Unironically the most cringe statement I've read in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

Deflection

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983780
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>48983815
maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>49038945
Just say bump anon, holy shit