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48911016 No.48911016 [Reply] [Original]

why has en vtubing turned into such a dumpster fire over the past few months, it's unprecedented how many yabs there've been

>> No.48911421
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It was doomed to happen knowing how the west and especially america is.
Should have listen to us and stay a JP only sister

>> No.48911457

>>48911016
>>48911421
t. doesn't watch JP at all

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Mumei cute, that's all I care about

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>>48911016
It's hilarious how hololiveEN's yab is "gura didn't stream".
Seriously, hololive know how to keep their talents less yab making.

>> No.48911615

>>48911457
well theyre not japanese so....

>> No.48911653

>>48911016
You didn't expect this from the woke culture we are part of?
Normalfags already hated japanese culture and then they tried to take advantage of it by getting normalfag western e-thot whores into it for easy views.
Western vtubing was doomed from the start.

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Yabs hard
still one of the top en vtubers
how does she do it?

>> No.48911707

>>48911016
The pandemic ended, the world opened back up and the Vtuber fad in the west is naturally dying off (again)

>> No.48911739

>>48911016
Council is the only gen that have seemed to get closer.

>> No.48911758

>>48911016
Western whores don't get magically cured from their brain rot just because they're behind an anime avatar.

>> No.48911774

>>48911457
>delusional

>> No.48912047

Yabs happen all the time in the JP scene, you just don't know about them.

>> No.48912153

>>48912047
Well you do are right i don't watch nijiJP and i barely see any drama, while i really don't have any other way than laught at all the nijiEN dramas.

>> No.48912183
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Current year Twenty Twenty Three,
Tsunderia terminated their whole company.
Silvervale, Veibae, Nyanners left vshojo,
Talent freedom? Talents now free,
and 4chan had a big party,
at least they kept their identity.

Then Zaion and Unit Raindrops from Nijisanji,
and Pikamee who troons harassed for Hogwarts Legacy,
and EiEN's Riifu, and Phase Connect's Yuri,
and Project Kawaii's Gen Three,
Temako, Sio, Monoru, Uto, and Saki who were indie,
and Idol Corp's Neo and Lily,
KoMeta's Elaine, and Huma from NaNaShi,
Wactor's Hina, Laila, Hana, Rose, Kuuma, 2nd Male Gen and Lia Mitsuragi,
Amber Glow's Xiulan and Nunki,
and Mirai Akari from the Four Heavenly Kings of JP,
and every member except Hana from Niji ID,
All graduated out of nowhere lightning fast ,
And they pulled new identities out of their ass.
It was the bloodiest year /vt/ ever saw,
With anons looking on in total awe.

They may no longer be together,
but at least all the departed can feel better,
than NexStage's Plumarielle and Jax who quit
when their concert turned out to be shit.
Literally inside a bathroom debut,
where they sang while pooing on the loo.

This is the ultimate shitshow,
Of ultimate faggotry
Graduations, terminations, and union-allegations,
Drama as far as the eye can see.
Only one can survive,
I wonder who it will be?
This is the ultimate shitshow,
of /vt/ Twenty Twenty Three.

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>>48911016
There are no good EN vtuber companies.
Only trash corpos and low view shitters with zero marketing.

No EN company has done a proper investment in vtubing. No local 3D, no innovative vtuber tech, only Hololive bootlegs and shitters who act like regular Twitch shitters
Western corpos don't grasp the success of Hololive Japan.

We need a true EN vtuber corpo.
Latest tech high quality avatars, local 3D, professionally managed schedules with game permissions ahead and preventing stream overlaping, regular streaming and no over-streaming like that garbage sweat shop that's NijiEN, a tight leash on talent behavior, no males, hire girls who are entertainers, singers and artists... potential concerts, merch, an own team of editors for shorts and art assets. REAL marketing, not just putting a shitty youtube ad on other vtuber's channels and drop your talent to fall to irrelevancy.

Even HoloEN is a low effort shitshow... the girls don't stream, they have to go to Japan for 3D, male collabs, they have to commission stuff themselves from external shitters like Seafoamboy for 3D and stuff.

Gura proved Vtubing has potential to penetrate into normie territory and investors don't realize there's a potential easy multi million business, Hololive makes tens millions of dollars, Nijisanji CEO net worth is 1 billion, Hololive CEO made it to Forbes...
Vtubing in the west is trash because nobody truly invest beyond paying one avatar and a random shit ad on Youtube.

>> No.48912385

>>48911016
Economic contractions causing pressure on both corpos and talents, causing corpos and talents to behave erratically.
Then there is the market saturation.
And the increasingly agitated landscape of deranged twitter users that blow everything out of proportion.

>> No.48912545

>>48912264
The fact of the matter is that anime just isn't that successful in the US outside of a cheap novelty.
There hasn't been a successful box office hit in years, convention numbers are dwindling, and the growth of sites like Crunchyroll is happening from other countries.
The only hope for EN vtubing unironically lies in SEA. They're the only region large enough with enough english speakers that actually cares about anime.

>> No.48912585

>>48911016
There have always been this many yabs, newfagchama.

>> No.48913092

>>48912545
>The fact of the matter is that anime just isn't that successful in the US outside of a cheap novelty.
Cope.
DBZ is the most watched show among kids, My Hero Academia is one of the most popular series in America. Kimetsu no Yaiba was the most sold comic in the US during Covid. Crunchyroll is worth over 1B dollars, VIZ media is worth 250 million dollars.
You region is an irrelevant impoverished shithole and ID makes literally NO money,

>> No.48913835

>>48911016
And somehow it still manages to be better than JP.

>> No.48915615

>>48911016
>why has CORPO en vtubing
fixed

>> No.48917698

>>48911016
Hololive EN is fine though.

>> No.48918156

>>48911016
Nothing changed about it.
You are just finally seeing it for what it was.
If you had bothered listening to people and paying attention you would have seen all of these things already out there.
Something like this happening to Nijisanji for instance was just a matter of time.

>> No.48918232

It was Covid in a bottle

>> No.48918479

>>48913835
Sour grapes.

>> No.48918498

>>48911016
Because westerners have more disregard to rule and regulations than japanese, so you have companies using them as buldgeon to get the talent in line when they do something they don't like (while disregarding them themselves when it's convenient) and talents that fell no need to follow them if it confilicts on what they want to do ( disregarding the fact that sometimes there is a very good reason why they exist).

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