Haachama World - 赤井はあと/はあちゃま

[Anonymous No.]

Akai Haato/Haachama
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Unmedicated Haaton mourning thread
Youtube: https://youtube.com/channel/UC1CfXB_kRs3C-zaeTG3oGyg
Twitter: https://twitter.com/akaihaato
Red Heart: https://youtu.be/A9HY4DsRTCg
New single: https://youtu.be/9mj2QJE-UOI
Previous stream: https://youtu.be/gSnvv0EBA7A
Previous Members only stream: https://youtu.be/iLXRjsMTn3k

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Haachama is next to fall to Xi's eternal horde of bugs, I hope you're steeling your heart so you don't suffer as much as the Cocofags

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>>4891145
we will have our revenge

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Coexist forever?

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>>4891145
Haachama reigned before them
Haachama will reign after them
There is no stopping the strongest idol

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look at her go

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If I cum to her will she stick around?

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>>4894875
A few thousand dudes doing that during every ASMR was not enough. What makes you think your literal drop in a bucket will be enough?

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>>4894026
what's with the outline on that gif
Only wondering because I saved another one that had the same thing

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Still no tweet...

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>>4894875
She's already getting cum irl so no.

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I tear up listening to her new song now knowing it's dedicated to Coco

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>>4896119
>now knowing it's dedicated to Coco
Well, there are people dumb enough to believe any bullshit their brain create

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>>4896247
Dedicating a song doesn’t mean the entirety of the song is about Coco. Antichama for all of your rants about how superior you are you’re severely lacking in emotional intelligence

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>>4897727
>emotional intelligence
>making shit up that is neither said nor hinted
>from a song whose lyrics were written by Luschka, presumably someone with zero knowledge about Coco situation.
Sorry anon, the rrats in your brain failed you this time

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>headp*ts for Haachama

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>>4891145
Why do you faggots keep saying this, they never cared about Haachama at all. The whole thing was never anything to do with saying Taiwan, they always hated Coco because she's American.

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>>4901109
>because she's American.
Just her bosom is

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>>4901143
>burgers beating nips in natural bosom size
Anon, I...

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>>4895580
The thumbnail's aspect ratio doesn't fill the blue space

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>>4901296
That's clearly a hafu

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I wonder if that means Haachama has dekai oppai as well

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>>4901502
100% nip. Actually JAV industry features more thin waist huge bosoms in a single calendar year than the whole rest of the world in all of the moving picture existence.
It’s not a meme for Hololive to start pretty much every holochick at size D (except the ones deliberately at size AA).

For some reason the nutrients they ingest either ends up all in that area or none at all in that area with very little in between

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>>4901525
I never seen her roommate but I've seen Noel's.
>BADONG!

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>>4903625
Badonkas and ASMR

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I miss Chammers. I hope she is having an ok week.

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Wifechama

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>>4903874
I don't know why but ASMR doesn't do it for me, even Haachama's.
I have a couple of very nice phones, have thoroughly enjoyed the whole "binaural" experience
(listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA with good phones to get what I mean)
but ASMR never did it to me.

What am I missing?

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>>4904776
It's just genetics, some people won't get whatever effect it's supposed to trigger. It doesn't work on me either but I'll usually stay for haachama's to see if it gets derailed into something funny

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2 days since Haachama liked something on twitter

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>>4906488
Yeah, just tested with this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHYNQDaZpc0

No joy. Seems like I'm blessed with immunity from ASMR, that suck.

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>>4891145
The bugs would be playing with fire if they tried the same thing. Coco's fans are reddit soibois. Haachama's fans are legitimately mentally ill. There's no telling what we might do.

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>>4906933
>Haachama's fans are legitimately mentally ill.
True that INCLUDING THE TAIWAN HAATON THEMSELVES!

I wouldn't doubt one of those kindergarten massacres that happens once in a while in China if they tried their hand on chammers. Some Haaton, a knife, a couple of dried tarantulas and he could go to town with that

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WHEN IS HAACHAMA GOING TO TWEET ABOUT COCO

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>>4907142
When we rescue her from Matsuri's basement

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After Coco explained her reasons I am genuinely starting to fear for Haachama. With Cover taking so much charge in creative matters how can Haachama continue? She'll always get in trouble or live in anxiety if her next idea is too much for Cover 2021 even though in 2020 and before no one would have cared.

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>>4907866
>Can't cook tarantulas anymore or other insane stuff so she has her fans do it instead as a contest
like this?

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>>4907866
>>4908015
Haachama is not the creative
>I want to do it my way or I'll take my ball and go home
type.

She is clearly the
>I don't know exactly what I'll do now and I don't really have an overarching plan so I'll just wing it and play by ear and see what is going to result from it

If you want to see TRUE form of Haachama there is no better stream than that one where she planned to receive calls from small indie VTubers on skype to help promote them
>IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE CLUSTERFUCK

She didn't queue them and, instead, took open calls on her skype.
End result?
>FUCKING CHAOS
to an extent she got dislike bombed BY HAATON THEMSELVES

It was a fucking funny stream tho, every time she told them to call some 20 of them would call at the same time.
There was this gorilla vtuber that was the breakout character too. I can't find the stream right now but it shouldn't be too hard to find.

It was wild, it was funny, it sucked but, above all
>she neither planned it to go that way nor would be in any way bothered if either Cover or Haaton told her to either do it right or not to do it at fucking all anymore

Haachama is **NOT** Coco. She is not in to create some artistic masterpiece, she is in to get entertained while she entertains Haaton with her antics and lack of planning and strategy
>AND THAT'S WHY SHE'S LOVED BY HAATON

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>>4908549
Here is a clip from said stream tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0rvbccvwcA

TOP FUCK LOL, the parent of the Youtuber barged into his room and got heard in the stream. 100% PURE UNADULTERATED HAACHAMA MOMENT

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>>4908549
But that's exactly the kind of stuff Cover is going to forbid. Just like her schizo arc, where she'd make up things mid stream, she is not the kind of person that can tell Karen from upper management 3 months ahead what she wants to do so the paperwork is getting all done. She'll do what she feels like at any given moment. Now Cover is making her feel anxious about this most charming and endearing trait. How can she subsist?

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>>4908608
Skype call was better
https://files.catbox.moe/eubl84.webm

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>>4909617
>But that's exactly the kind of stuff Cover is going to forbid
In your rrat infested mind imagination maybe

>Just like her schizo arc, where she'd make up things mid stream,
That's not what landed her in trouble with management, but the whole "self harm" imagery that Haaton provided her, including very explicit decapitation, guts and gore that would 100% get her channel nixed by Susan SPECIALLY after that Youtube rules update close to her "lore" arc
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802245?hl=en

But that's beyond the point. Coco graduated because she really had in her convictions to make the kind of content her heart desiredm like Asacoco.
It was a deal break for her, if Cover will say
>don't do that, you'll get your whole company in trouble
she'll likely go her own way instead.

Haachama? She does not plan or have any convictions in that direction, she does what she just thought 15 minutes before the stream.
If she's told
>don't do that
she just don't do that and do something else, equally outrageous but not that particular thing.

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HAATON WILL DEFEND THIS!

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>>4910413
>If she's told
>>don't do that
>she just don't do that and do something else, equally outrageous but not that particular thing.

Next you are going to tell me that Haachama going on a month long break after her true end stream was nixed was just a secret Cover suspension and not because she felt absolutely horrible after having her creative freedom infringed upon once again.

That her noticeable sadness when blowing up all her buildings on the Minecraft EN server was probably sadness at her lack of English ability and not sadness at management literally banning her from it.

That her switching from HoloEN to HoloEN0 was Haachama "doing something else, equally outrageous but not that particular thing" and not her trying to skirt rules that were prohibiting her from going through with her English Domination Plan.

That she stopped her English Domination Plan because she just got bored and not because her planned Gura collab was being prohibited by management, leaving her with very little avenue to interact with the EN side of things with people she'd actually be able to vibe with.

That her erratic streaming schedule and frequent breaks are just down to her acclimatising even though it's been going on for months now and she used to be a very consistent streamer. It's got absolutely nothing to do with her references to feeling sad in member streams and just not being in the right headspace, of course.

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>>4891068
I've had that one fan song stuck in my head for months now.
Particularly the line,
>Faces identical, bodies the same

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>4910758
You already got plenty of (You)s in your thread, one more post and the next haachama cooking stream is going to have a chicken being butchered on camera

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>>4909617
>>4910763
ogey. So do you just expect us to just take your word for it? Because that's laughable if that's all you have.

>>4908549
>>4910413
>>4898724
Finally, people who're actually sensible and don't believe any fucking stupid rrat they come across.

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>>4910918
Joke is on you, I'm a farm boy and slaughtered my share of chickins.
>it never gets easier
It is not a fun time to have some creature life extinguish by your hands.
>it takes delicious afterwards tho

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>>4901109
>they always hated Coco because she's American
>menawhile gura and amelia are loved by chinks
rratchama...

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Some chama with hags.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW1gviZDMHI

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chama liked a tweet

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>>4911392
Great. We know from multiple holomems that they all knew Coco's graduation was coming so can all the doomposters and rrat makers talking about Haachama this and Haachama that fucking die now?

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>>4911291
>Some chama with hags.
Hey! Give chama's wife some respect!

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>>4911291
>Some chama with hags.
Hey! Give chama's wife some respect!

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>>4911291
Foreshadowing haachama's graduation just like kanacoco and no I'm not antichama

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>>4911837
She's suspiciously happy about that hand cream...

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>>4912117
I can't believe Botan is going to graduate too. The chinks have gone too far...

...

But it's okay, since the Russian Empire will go after them in retaliation. Hololive is saved!

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>>4911392
>just something related to the contest
poor chammers, she's still in the denial stage

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>HAATONS WOULDN'T EAT THIS TO PLEASE HAACHAMA
EXPLAIN YOURSELVES!!

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>>4914429
I can explain:
HAACHAMA CHAMA

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I can't stop listening to infinity even tho it makes me cry everytime... I love Haachama and Coco...

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Why did Coco say she was graduating?

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>>4916112
Lots of hate and not liking Cover intervention in creative matters

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>>4910758
I'll defend myself from your pitiful punches while I give you the ass kicking of a lifetime you damn kfp!

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>>4916112
Cover wasn't dealing with her problems

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>>4891068
What's the timestamp for the countdown from that one stream?

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>>4920111
heart-titled one has a timestamp in comments
20th jan one also has one towards the end but I can't be arsed to look

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I'm sure we'll get a CocoChammers collab before Coco graduates. I beleeb.

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>>4911392
Lies, the latest thing she liked is June 8th

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>>4908549
I loved that stream so much it was way more fun than it should have been

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>>4921351
That's when the tweet was created, you fool.

https://twitter.com/codricor1/status/1401171602977533955 was her last liked tweet before that. >>4911392 is telling the truth, because I check Chammers' twitter everyday and I don't remember that tweet being there until a couple of hours ago.

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>4921514
She liked it the day it came out
Also no more (You)s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up_8JXefHlk
Wifechama...

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What will (you) do if they take Haachama from us?
I'll just be done with Hololive & stick to indies unless she pops back up again

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>>4922145
Marry Haachama and support her

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>>4920498
Back in Jan, she probably thought she owned the chat coomers by stopping the count at 4. Recently, she might have thought she was torturing them by dragging the count out, but ended up performing ejaculation control. It's funny because she one-upped actual ASMR whores that way. She's going to end up shooting herself in the foot by taking chat's bait every ASMR stream.

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>>4922145
By not thinking about it and going into a small bout of depression in the unlikely event it happens

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https://youtu.be/CPbiMg2AX4s

>>4922145
Lie down
Try not to cry
Cry a lot

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>>4922433
How do you manage the pain?

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>>4922873
That's my secret Senchou
Pain Peko Everyday

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>>4922145
Quit being depressed and grow the balls to kill myself

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>>4914429
I bought it taste decent but never eat it again

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>>4916112
Just got off work I watched the members apparently she said she's just not happy doing it and she' rather quit than forcing herself to stream also zhang

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>>4923261
>[EN] Coco: I am willing to do anything for you guys, but I'm not big-hearted enough to offer my own head for other people's sake.
>[EN] Coco: I'm not sure whether you're referring to the fans or who else with "everyone", but well.....
>[EN] Coco: I'm not big enough to do so for the other Holomems. *laughs* Of course, they're important. And so is mgmt. But.....
>[EN] Coco: I'm doing this to protect my own smile.
>[EN] Coco: And I don't want your smiles to disappear either. And this decision is a result of only that one thing.

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>>4921514
This. Here is the (You) (You) were robbed of

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>>4923306
>[EN] Coco: When I can't smile anymore, I can't make you guys smile.
>[EN] Coco: The main reason why I can't stay with you guys is because I can't make myself smile anymore.....

Also this

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>>4923351
>[EN] Coco: I might have gotten a bit too big.

>[EN] Coco: If I didn't graduate, the worst-case would that I would continue be streaming without enjoying it myself.

>[EN] Coco: I know that I'm the kind of person where ppl either love me or hate me.
>[EN] Coco: If there are ppl who want to take advantage of this opportunity to attack me..... I'll still take it as their expression of love for me.

And this fuck you China

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>>4923351
This is troubling. Haachama has been bouncing in and out of depression for the past 6 months. She eventually might feel the same way as Coco.

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>>4923379
And dang, the same for this one.

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>>4923306
How was she "offering her head" and is she implying that other Holomems are at risk of something?

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>>4923379
The fucked up thing is that she would never have be able to stop streaming without the bugs thinking they won. Was she expected to stream forever just out of oppositional defiance? The more annoying they were the more she would want to keep streaming out of spite. She is incredible and will be dearly missed, but I am glad she doesn’t have to think about them anymore.

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>>4923751
I'm guessing chinks attacking her and she can't keep letting it go

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>>4923574
I'm most afraid of her feeling guilty because she got the lesser backlash of the Taiwan situation

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>>4922145
Watch her as an indie. If it's her roommate, I'll tell her she's cute and the arrangement was long overdue.

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>>4922145
Watch aria without taking my meds

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>>4915066
I can explain by my drawing

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>>4922145

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>>4922145
Hopefully she sets off a lot of TNT in Minecraft before leaving

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back to page 1

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>>4933759
Faster

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>>4933791

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>>4933867
look at 'er go

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So fast that she's leaving an after image

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Something something don't forget reps

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>>4901109
>>4891145
The didn't just not care about Haachama, they were upset she got suspended and blamed that on Coco too

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>>4934739
If that is true, Haachama must have some otherworldly charm.

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>>4934973
They basically blamed everything on Coco and Cover. From what I understand Haachama was very popular on Bilibili and being deprived of Haachama drove them further insane

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>>4934973
>>4935200

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>>4906488
>>4904776
I thought I was immune to ASMR before, too. I tried many different sounds but they would not produce any reaction from me. What I think turned things around was working out specific anxiety issues and learning to meditate. After doing so, I got a reaction to Haachama peforming a deep sigh while eating pop rocks. It was slight tingle on the back of my neck. It was nice, but it didn't help me fall asleep.

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Hope your are doing well Chama.

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I miss my chammers...

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Hope you’re doing well Chama.

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Wifechama~
I can't wait for that hand cream to arrive

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[Anonymous No.]

Considering how she's been trying to rid herself of her reputation as a crybaby, despite it being totally warranted in this case, I think she's just getting her emotions under control so that she doesn't break down the next time she streams. If she did during the tarantula stream, it'd put a damper on things, so she'd probably just postpone it if she doesn't feel ready.

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Do you think Haachama lost weight during her concert practice
I hope not

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>>4938189
She's back in Japan. Probably not done putting on the "happy weight".

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>>4938189
I wonder if that time in Aussie land stuck in lockdown caused her to put some weight

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>>4906933
>There's no telling what we might do.
Watamates once doxxed one of them and signed him up to join the army, and I think a tatsunoko once did the same thing, except he signed the guy up for Falun Gong. The schizo arc has probably inoculated her from spammers by driving her fanbase insane.

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>>4938248
>Watamates once doxxed one of them and signed him up to join the army.
Outstanding move.

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>>4938236
>>4938218
Without sounding like a degenelate, I wonder if Haachama is on par with the fatto catto, despite how healthy her cooking is

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>>4938321
Hate to be the breaker of bad news Architectbro, but fatto catto tier girls probably can't move like this without needing a knee replacement.

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>>4938321
I doubt she is fat, or she wouldn’t have drawn attention to it. It was getting discussed here a lot before this stream, she left this on the screen for awhile.

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Haachama ring fit adventure

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>>4938495
I can dream
>>4938532
She drew attention to it because she was getting fat and that art made her really think about changing that

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>>4938321
She even used this artwork for her Ring Fit stream.
>>4938189
She doesn’t seem to have a complex about her weight. She actually seems to have a pretty healthy self image since she is able laugh about like she has. Fat people in denial tend to overcompensate while trying to point out other people for being fatter, it’s quite pathetic.
>now that’s a fat person, right guys?… right?….guys?….

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>>4938680
Her 3D movements are very spry, she would have more momentum behind her if she was carrying extra weight. Plus her arms and legs would be hitting invisible barriers. I remember the disappointment in chat during Nene’s 3D performance when her arms phased right through her assets.

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>>4938738
>Now that's a- *wheeze* fat per-per*more heavy wheezing due to being fat* person, r-right g*wheezing*guys?
and a diet coke.

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Thicchama or not, I'd still bone her

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>>4938833
Yeah the watame stream definitely points towards her being at least somewhat fit, but she didn't seem as spry as earlier streams, or maybe that's just me?

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>he fell for the tarantula meme
>he ATE it!
Explain yourselves Haatons!

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Bros I fucking miss haachama

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Japanese girls consider themselves fat if they weigh 1 kg more than the absolute lowest BMI boundary. So yes, Haachama is probably fat by Japanese standards because of that, but in Burger Land they'd consider her anorexic.

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Hachama is coming...
https://youtu.be/g7BnllC6GLY

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>>4940903
Where is she

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>>4940933
On my lap, riding hard how else is she cumming?

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>>4940976
I don't appreciate lying, anon

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>>4941002
Fine...the truth is she's pegging me hard like the filthy pig I am

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>>4941044
god I wish that were me

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>>4941044
>Futachama will never fuck you in the ass while screaming at you to take it like the fag you are

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>>4940587
Jesas, that actually make me even more sad for Polka

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>Be Akai Haato
>Being told by Hololive MGMT that you have to pay upfront for your own merch to be made
>Kindergarden brain makes her order 100 pair of socks and 10000 t-shirts
>Feet sniffing happens, Haachama socks become the single most sought after piece of merch in Hololive history, sell out immediately
>No one buys shirts
>Red Heart Ltd is now deep in the red because of all the expenses
>3D happens, 1st gen anniversary happens but no merch
>Haachama has been instated as acting CEO due to irreversible, severe retardation of Akai Haato
>Too proud a businessman to accept a loss
>Knows her ROI, her COGS, her ASP and won't compromise on anything
>Would never write the merch of or, by Allah, put it on sale
>Knows Haatons have a high lifetime value and is fully willing to wait it out until the stocks have cleared

And that, my dear Haaton, is why we haven't gotten any new merch and why we won't get physical merch for her birthday, either. Anon, just buy the damn shirt.

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>>4940903
Haato doko?

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>>4941733
All she had to do was to order 10000 pairs of socks and 100 t-shirts. Haato, it's not that hard...

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>>4941733
I regret not buying the socks...

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>>4938248
Sure would be a shame if the CCP discovered a secret group of uighurs were making the nation look bad by using VPNs to harass anime girls on forbidden western media websites

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>>4941978
I want the shirt but the power level is a bit too high for me to ever actually wear it in public. Maybe if it was just the haaton without the text

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I can't believe Haato didn't call Miko...

Possible rrats:

1. Miko didn't invite her
2. Miko did invite her to call but she declined

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>>4942274
maybe she was in kindergarten and couldnt attend?

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>>4942274
My bet's on not having the courage to do anything hololive because she'd have to address coco's situation in a tweet and she's not handling it well, so the only choice is pretend to be away and busy

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>>4942274
>Miko did invite her to call but she declined
Haachama isn’t dedicating enough online time to even like a Tweet or so. I don’t think she’ll be taking any scheduled activity with regards to Hololive that is not scheduled and recorded way in advance

>>4941733
That’s plausible except: aren’t the merch made to order?

About merch: the one thing that gives me safety in the fact she’s in for the long haul is that her nendo got an OK and pushed to production.
That type of official merch likely comes 100% out of Cover’s pocket

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>>4942274
Or you know, she could simply be busy or even forgot about it but that's not exciting enough for you guys, isn't it?

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>>4942528
That doesn’t look like Haachama at all. Like when she botched the deliverable for Watame birthday, became ashamed and ended up ghosting her for the time being until her own birthday, Haachama’s MO seems to be
>ignore and pretend nothing is happening

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>>4942570
I feel these two things are too different in caliber to compare them like that

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>>4942616
if that really is her cope pattern, then the scope doesnt make much of a difference

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>>4942528
They have known about Coco's situation long time ago. It doesn't make sense for her to be depressed about it now.

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>>4942636
And it doesnt make sense for others to cry only now that it's announced right

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>>4942636
I wonder if the internal announcement lines up with one of chammer's hiatus, or the visit to holohouse

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>>4942542
>That’s plausible except: aren’t the merch made to order?
Some of it is being pre-order only so that is all the made to order stuff (like the plushies for Matuli, Aqua, Ina, etc.). But other things like many of the shirts etc. were ordered in bulk. You can see which old merch is still available and which isn't. It seems like a lot of t-shirts never really took off because a lot of it is still available. Even the Full Face Matsuri shirt, one of the greatest inventions of human kind.

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>>4942655
yeah, even if they knew, it only feels real when she officially announced it. Miko is talking about this right now. Also see Mio crying

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>>4942655
Watame mentioned that they knew this long time ago

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>>4942692
Yeah that's what I'm saying

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>>4942687
You always have some hope with something like that that the person could change their mind etc. But once you make it public, it's much more difficult to step back from the ledge.

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>>4942718
They’re capitalizing on her graduation to get red superchats

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>>4942542
>>4942557
Actually when is the last time Haachama called in anyone's totsumachi? I feel like she's just not participating in them anymore.

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Basedchama for waiting until July 1st to respond with tears than crying early to get pity/akasupa/ect

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>>4891145
Coco and Haachama will team up to kill the bugs

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>>4942634
I dont think such a rule of universal cope holds up, there might be elephants that are too big to ignore for her. Absence at watame's totsu could be handwaved away for any number of reasons, this would be very weird to ignore

[Anonymous No.]

>>4942789
I want Haachama to step on me

[Anonymous No.]

>>4942787
Could also be that part of Coco's reasons is the zhang spam, and she feels guilty for it.
Anyways, we can only wait. I beleeb in chammers-holohouse friendship, she'll say something eventually. That or Coco will directly approach her for a collab, for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4942771
Aren't those "call ins" usually organized in advance anyway, I remember Ame did one for her birthday and it was a disaster because nobody told her people weren't going to actually drop in randomly. Haachama is late to her own streams half the time so it's probably hard to schedule around her

[Anonymous No.]

>>4942913
Sometimes the whole guest list is prepared in advance, sometimes they just announce it's happenig. Sometimes it really is spontaneous

[Anonymous No.]

>>4942928
yeah, look at haachama's timetravel call in
Watame jumps at any call in the moment she sees it, and Suisei really felt like she got in spontaneously

[Anonymous No.]

>>4942660
I usually don't believe in rrats, but what if her hiatus from April onwards are caused by the guilt she felt after knowing Coco's graduation? The timing just lines up desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943014
We won't know until she says something but it's not impossible. She really struggled to pick the right words to describe the reasons for her lack of activity

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943060
this is significant, she couldn't really say the reasons. Maybe she felt like she was gonna get hated by her fanbase for Coco's graduation (projecting her inner guilt) but after seeing the shower of affection cheered up.
But now that Coco's graduation is public, she's back to feeling guilty and avoids streaming to not face the fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943179
Also, if she really was deppressed for other reasons, assuming unneeded guilt is part of the package so it's plausible

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943179
She will at least tweet tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943247
>Stream is cancelled, young menhera JK, pureasu undastando

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943247
>I'll need to postpone it to next week! sorry! see you then!

[Anonymous No.]

Wifechama

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943247
>Tarantula contest...AWAY!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4942616
One of the dumbest rrats this place produces is this one.

Haachama has so much shit going on her life right now, she is pretty much an Isekai protagonist that just returned to her original world after spending 3 years dealing with the most atrocious shit a person can throw at a 17 years girl, she´s pretty much Subary after Re:Zero
> phillipines prison school
> neglect and bullying by own (foster *AND* blood) family in Australia
> bullying in high school
> being the tinder in some international controversy that made into the 9 O'Clock news even in her home country
> returning home to a pandemics only to be forced to continue isolated and without the chance to restart her social life

And yet the rrats is that she cares more about whoever else problems than she cares about her own problems. That's so fucking dumb it shouldn't even warrant saying out loud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4942685
10k T-shirts would set her back what, 10000 bucks (at very worse, in these quantities, if they're dumb enough to produce a full run at once).
That's 7 good days of superchat even considering YT and Cover cuts.

[Anonymous No.]

The shirts currently available on Booth aren't actually printed until they're ordered. That's just one of the services the platform offers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943923
That wuold be my belief as well. Printing 10k shirts with no regards for size trying to guess what would sell would be dumb as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

Haachama cumsocks

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943845
most of those are now over,
being worried about causing trouble to others more than your own non-critical oroblems you can just endure is not some unthinkable alien state of mind, it's a reality for a lot of people.
none of us knows haachama's system of values well enough to say for sure what she's thinking right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>4943923
I know that Booth offers such services but aren't they usually marked with "Pixiv Factory" or something like that? I actually have a bunch of Holo shirts right here and when I ordered them they were dispatched next day from Booth. Could be that their made to order process is that fast... but why would some shirts be sold out then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4944534
Is the fabric nice at all?
I have "sensitive" skin so products like Adidas is what I can usually wearPain Peko

[Anonymous No.]

>>4944663
It's normal cotton, like plain Gildan shirt quality or Fruit of the Loom. Nothing special but it's wearable. The print quality is a bit mixed however, best to wash very carefully, hand wash maybe even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4944080
>most of those are now over,
Not my point at all.

She endured all of that and, worse, on her own. Even in literal hunger sometimes because her foster and blood family simply neglected her.
>literal hunger
What makes one think that she would react worse now about someone fucking else's problem than she reacted, 3, 2 years younger, about her own problem.

That's fucking dumb, almost as dumb as that anon implying her Infinity song has anything to do with Coco even if the lyrics were written by some Luschka lad or lassie.
I miss the days people thought better on their rrats and said things that people would go
>that's bullshit but I believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4944881
Good to know, thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw no sleep to not miss any surprise stream
>RedHeart on Repeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4944950
>I miss the days people thought better on their rrats and said things that people would go
>>that's bullshit but I believe it
Unfortunately most of the rrats-posters don't even watch the vtubers' stream; at best they're just ignorant clipfaggots (and let's pull a page from Antichama here) EOPs who think they have an idea of what's going on when in reality they haven't got a fucking clue. They sprout bullshits so stupid that anyone who's actually semi-serious about following their oshi(s) would be able to tell they're not real fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4922145
I want haachama to leave and go indie or Cover to give them their creative liberties back, because that's the only way she'll be happy enjoying making content

[Anonymous No.]

>>4944950
It's not simply "someone else's problem", we're not privy to what she's actually thinking, and many people DO work like that, I don't know what else I can tell you anon. I'm not even trying to push a "rrat" as the truth here, I think crossing that out as an impossibility is retarded, you're making a big assumption about how haachama thinks

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPuI4l0jK7s
I wonder if Haachama used this app whenever she ordered from Domino's pizza

[Anonymous No.]

>>4945505
>we're not privy to what she's actually thinking
>I think crossing that out as an impossibility is retarded
That's even dumber than saying
>I believe it because the voices in my head said so

The core of this argument is
>I have no information whatsoever, hence it is possible that this is the truth, hence I'll state it as one of the possibilities to a degree of likelihood.

There is zero distinction between
>I don't know what Haachama is thinking, hence it could as well be because of Coco
and
>I don't know what Haachama is thinking, hence it could as well be because of Chelsea beat Manchester in the Champions League

To anticipate the next move that would be:
>no, that's dumb, being because of Coco is more likely than being because of football
to which the answer would be
>considering no one is "privy to what she's actually thinking" they're equally as far fetched

Please don't do "there is no proof it is not X hence it could be X". That's dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>4935215
>Hololive Moments
kek remember how they thought they were bigger than Hololive itself and tried to order Cover around and everyone including their own members laughed them out of existence? Good times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4945484
Funniest part of this is that there are some hundreds, maybe thousands of indies with unfettered creative liberties doing whatever the hell they want
>pulling 15 viewers a stream
and nobody bats an eye to them.

Take Hirasaka Mei, one of the VTubers in Haachama's mixer. She's cute, she's a hard working girl, she got a big break by being invited to that mixer and her subs "exploded".
And yet, nobody gives a fuck, and that's one of the successful indies out there.

Had Haachama started as an indie or became one without the rest of the "tide" lifting the all of the Hologirls botes up she would be this chick today, loved by some 3 of you Haaton (maybe) and working her ass off for 2000 views on her daily hour long VODs, fewer than even Risu or Mel pulls off live.
There is a benefit in being in a company and, in my opinion, it is well worth it giving up some editorial control to reach the type of massive success and audience Haachama reached.

Just
>be an idol some 4 times a year
>make a schedule and keep it
>avoid doing things that can get you in trouble with the YT bot or with the sponsors that put most of the money paying your wage in good or bad SC yields and be happy.
>don't do anything that would reflect bad on your channel or on your workmates

It's not even that hard, it's like having a regular job with a regular employer for a regular wage like regular people in the regular whole world
>except you're loved by your audience unlike, let's say, a criminal lawyer or the parkimeter guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4946750
Of course there is, but Haachama is already the benefactor of the promotional pull being part of a big agency provided. Separating doesn't mean she's thrown back into obscurity if she plays it right. She provided a lot for Cover with her memey content style that attracts overseas viewers and garners a lot of popularity and Cover did a lot to elevate her with their brand, but an amicable split might be the best option for her because of their differences in philosophy.

[Anonymous No.]

How would you react if her next video is titled "Important Announcement"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4947009
>Separating doesn't mean she's thrown back into obscurity if she plays it right.
Exactly, all she would have to give up is her character name, character image, original and cover songs, sponsorships, merchandise, brand name recognition, guaranteed income, 3D studio, live 2D rig and streaming software, live show organization, national brand name partnerships and 40+ affiliated channels with 17 of them over a million youtube subscribers helping you to grow up even further.

Other than that what would Haachama be even giving up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4947178
She usually does a parody video for important happenings in the company, I'd think it was another joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>4947184
You're listing a bunch of superfluous bullshit that doesn't particularly mean much and/or is something they already have to personally manage, or stuff we don't even know what their revenue split is like if any or it just falls under contractual obligations. She clearly is losing interest in making content, all these virtues you're extoling and she clearly doesn't value it enough to want to stream or commit to new projects. Kson is an idealized example but she'll clearly be perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>3 week suspension for mentioning Taiwan on her stream

looking back, that was fucking retarded, what was Cover thinking

I'm just venting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4947184

A big part of me wants to see her give most of that up and go back to memes, MMD videos, and copyright-friendly vocaloid covers, as well as continue coming up with whatever lore she wants to do to flex her editing and voice acting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4947824
Wasn't it 2 weeks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4946274
I should've said crossing it out with such absolute confidence when you can't know it for sure. Not trying to put the burden of proof for a negative statement on you, just shit at translating thought to word I guess
it's just an explanation that makes a lot of sense to me considering the likely timings of events, what she has recently said about reasons for little activity (ie not busy in kindergarten or struggling to adjust to a new setting) and how she went silent right around the announcement (when it seemed we're finally getting somewhere with diaries, tweets etc) and hasn't even tweeted even a few words about a close friend graduating when literally everyone else has - why? she's not too busy to do it, she had time to get on and like tweets, and before that put up some diaries on regular school days. I'll be happy to find out I'm wrong if she ever decides to talk about it because I don't want her to be wracking her brains over this unnecessarily, but other explanations like being busy, depressed about her current life situation, or unmotivated because of creative constraints have their own flaws - are they more likely? maybe? I do think this is a real possibility though. I think there was a coco zatsudan that talks about haachama during suspension that I'll need to dig out and rewatch

[Anonymous No.]

>>4947969
>On 27 September, she and Kiryu Coco were suspended for 3 weeks, preventing them from doing streaming and Twitter activities following the controversy when she and Coco displayed "Taiwan" in "Top Countries" when divulging through their confidential YouTube channel's analytics, which sparked outrage from some of the PRC audience.[30]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4947397
>a bunch of superfluous bullshit that doesn't particularly mean much
Yeah, in your entertainment consumer perspective.
While completely ignoring what was said at >>4946750 about hundreds, if not thousands of other indistinguishably talented girls busting her asses off for 2k views on hour long VODs.

Think hard about it: there is a timeline where Haachama went full indie instead, a long time ago.
In that timeline you don't watch her at all, you never even heard of her, while you are discussing whether or not your oshi, Hirasaka Mei, should go indie because that's what grants her more creative freedom.

I agree with you that Haachama is not as energetic as she was when her main and only responsibility in life was attend high school for some 4 hours a day and then devote her whole rest of the day making MMD montages, playing Getting over It offstream or streaming all night long in her lonely basement in Australia.
I disagree that it is caused by anything other than adult responsibilities catching up to her and also being under the watchful eye of a strict mom and dad that sent her to Prison school in Phillipines to tough her up and give her a moral fiber.

I also agree with this anon here: >>4945505 that nobody knows what Haachama is thinking so speculating about it as if it was anywhere close to the truth is worse than just admitting it's the lack of meds and the voices in the head whispering stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948014
>it's just an explanation that makes a lot of sense to me
"I have exactly zero information about it, hence, it makes sense that it is exactly this elaborate theory in detriment of multiple simpler ones and I'll go out of my way to try to convince others of this, based on zero information". That's how dumb it sounds.

[Anonymous No.]

Haachama is currently sitting on the toilet because she's constipated. That's why she can't stream at the moment, please understand.

t. Haachama's boyfriend

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948210
Yes cut out everything except half a sentence and dunk on that. If you're not interested in talking you can just stop responding, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948134
>Hirasaka Mei
desu wa desu wa

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948254
It is the core of your argument.
>I have zero actual information
>Hence I created a theory inside my head
>It makes sense to me, hence it might be the truth
Again anon, I'll take the voices and the lack of meds as a better argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948230
Your gf is a slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948230
As good a theory as any

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948297
>>4948134
wait wait how the hell did I miss this

how am I just now finding out about this

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948386
for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948491
Because you are EOP trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948588
>>4948491

>Video unavailable
>This video is private.

fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948491
Exactly my point. There is a timeline this is the Hirasaka World thread on /vjp/ celebrating the armpit sniffing snake blood drinking Hololive dog girl while some 17 anons a pop watch this Haato chick and talk about her in some obscure corner of 2eddit, the japanese version and inspiration of Reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

Haato...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948254
Btw, you could as well be right because who the fuck knows what goes into the heart of a 19 years old well travelled japanese chick. It doesn't make your mental process any less dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948491
Kinda offtopic, but as far as I know Haachama dreams of becoming a seiyuu, then she helps this vtuber whose roommate is known for being an anime seiyuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4948886
Sadly that was just before the big Taiwan yab

haven't seen much interacting between hololive and indies, or hololive and niji since then

[Anonymous No.]

>>4949220
Maybe Haachama, didn't the Holo APEX crew entered one or two APEX tournaments with Niji and others? Same for Among Us and other games like those.

The "big yab" was actually Capcom suing Cover, that was the reason for both the archiving and the strict rules about what can and cannot be streamed.
To illustrate the type of trouble Cover got themselves into
> that ".6" in Capcom's net income (that usually would be rounded off) is 5x larger than Cover whole net income

[Anonymous No.]

>>4949505
>the archiving

is that why this Haachamaa stream mentioned here is privated?
>>4948491
>>4948699

[Anonymous No.]

>>4949566
>is that why this Haachamaa stream mentioned here is privated?
Yep. June 30, 2020

>We apologize for the use of copyrighted works without the permission of the copyright holders.
>Thank you for supporting our talent.
> In the Youtube archives of several talents belonging to HoloLive Production, the VTuber agency operated by our company, there are some parts of videos that use assets that are not licensed by the right holder, therefore copyright violation.
>This matter is due to the lack of management on our part.

>We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and in order to promote sound distribution activities in the future, we will carry out privating and deletion support on all of our talent's YouTube Content.
>We will only publish the content for which we have the permission.

>We deeply regret the fact that this situation has been reached, and we sincerely apologize to everyone involved.
>We would like to reinforce the management system again and try to prevent the recurrence of such a situation.

>There are many points that we cannot address, and we are very sorry, but we would appreciate your continued support.
> June 30th (Thurs.) Cover Co., Ltd.
> President and CEO Motoaki Tanigo
Roughly

Capcom could easily have 3 striked Mio (they did strike her twice and held off the third) and pretty much every other girl specially the ones in Hololive Gamers (Fubuki, Okayu and Korone), that would pretty much be the death penalty for those striked and for Cover as you cannot ever again make a channel on Youtube or even hold a GMail account or Play Store (or any connected google project) if you receive three strikes.

Actually there are cases where the official company account of some poor sod's company gets revoked by Google and their apps removed by the play store because some developer that gets banned f or some reason from any property works on what the company publishes.
People didn't realize how close Hololive came from ceasing operation forever, all it would take would be some 3 or 6 clicks from some middle management in Capcom's office.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4949870
Jesus fuck, fuck copyright shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4949934
>fuck copyright shit
You are not thinking straight. "Copyright shit" (intellectual property as a whole covering Copyright, Trademark and Patents) is the only reason both companies like Cover and individuals (like let's say Pikamee) can make a living out of what they produce.

The fact they are the only entity with rights to allow or forbid others from taking what they created and distributing it is what makes what they produce valuable.
Nobody would in their right mind pay 50 bucks for a #from1st online only show if one could legally just upload it to Youtube and simulcast it.

Cover learned a valuable lesson there:
>Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi
that's "what is permissible for Jupiter may not be permissible for a bull" and, in Hololive case, it applies in reverse:

>what a small indie can get away with Cover may not

[Anonymous No.]

One of the main problems is that Japan doesn't know the concept of fair use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4950303
Yeah, if only Japan would know that concept. I mean, there is de facto fair use for doujin works but it does not work if you are a Corp. I guess if Cover wasn't a big Corp but rather just a collection of indie VTubers the mass striking never would have happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4949566
No. That stream got privated halfway through her suspension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4950303
"Fair use" wouldn't protect them from a US based suit either because it is

> the doctrine that brief excerpts of copyright material may, under certain circumstances, be quoted verbatim for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, and research, without the need for permission from or payment to the copyright holder.

Have a video game online course and show excerpts of Quake 2 to illustrate what "rocket jump" means and what is the physics and coding behind it?
>fair use due to the use of a short excerpt in an educational circumstance

Stream a 2.5 hours walkthrough of the same game to entertain your audience?
>not fair use

Sample a 10 seconds "dum dum dum dum DUM DUM dum dum" for your breakout hit song from some acclaimed artist hit song?
>not fair use
and costed Vanilla Ice a lot of money because Queen sued him and would have beat him in court had him not settled for some hefty undisclosed sum
https://www.thethings.com/artist-who-copied-queen/

Copyright law is the simplest in the world
>you made it? You control who can make copies and nobody can without your permission
>you didn't make it? You need permission from whoever did

The difference between Japan and the US is not law but culture
>Americans see value in their products to reach an audience as wide as possible, turning a blind eye to copyright infringement when the purpose is not to profit over their work but to add value somehow
>Nips consider using things that do not belong to you a very serious social matter with guaranteed punishment for non compliance

You don't need to go too far to see an example of that:
>Ollie almost got herself in a whole of trouble with that stunt of pretending to steal diamonds from Usada Trade Center on FUCKING MINECRAFT when Moona first took her there.

Moona fulfilled the social expectation by swiftly punishing Ollie otherwise she would more likely than not have got herself in trouble right off the bat with the nip audience.
(She ended up having to apologize off stream anyway to calm the hottest heads down)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4950943
The policy of privating anything remotely controversial or infringing started in June. After that any use of english song, any behaviour that would lead to controversy, anything and everything would be privated first and either restored with the bad part cut or not restored at all.

Haachama got fucking dislike bombed by JP Haaton themselves in that stream too for the same reason Calli got in trouble one week ago
>went to the stream unprepared, wasted the time of all parties involved

[Anonymous No.]

Guys relax, she's ok, I just came in her asshole and she says she'll be back to streaming after she cleans herself up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4951056
The Vtuber mixer stream was up for over a month before going private, it has no relation to content seen as "controversial or infringing."
The Holocaust also had nothing to do with English songs. Haachama still did covers of English songs after it happened, and English songs getting removed are mostly a recent thing that started happening in March with Haachama and Fubuki in April

The Vtuber mixer stream got the majority of its dislikes because Haachama was talking to males. Every time she talked with one the dislikes went up, not because it was unprepared.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4952126
Thanks based Haaton for setting the record straight. Too many rrats running free

[Anonymous No.]

>>4952126
First “no archive” Haachama English stream would be this one if my memory doesn’t fail me. I don’t recall other holos doing that much before that date either.

Between June and October Cover went from a
>Haha, we give some girls an iPhone and they do whatever they want and we get a cut and exposure to our flagship product: the app
company
>HOLY SHIT, we need to hire managers, lawyers specialized in international diplomacy and worldwide intellectual property and bodyguards for some of the girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>4949566
There is a record of how much of their archives was privated and restored
https://hololive.jetri.co/#/status

[Anonymous No.]

>>4953291
I think I misunderstood. I meant actual English songs like Haachamas covers and Fubukis shorts like scatman that got removed recently.
I thought you were trying to mix their recent removal with permissions back in July about them since I thought English singing streams were always deleted immediately, but looking at my archive I actually do have the few English singing streams Haachama did prior to the Holocaust so I was wrong about English songs not getting caught up in it.

[Anonymous No.]

chammers never really recovered from the finale blocking. haatons too.
everything after that is hubris for chammers and haatons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4954291
https://youtu.be/k28zK41-jJA
Digging further I'm surprised this English singing stream is still up. Evey other English singing stream is gone but this one, and it's her worst singing streams because she played her CMs after every fucking song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4954291
>so I was wrong about English songs not getting caught up in it.
It’s understandable, two unrelated things happened with regards to English songs, the one you mentioned and the one I mentioned

1) the one I mentioned: Cover swearing on their ancestors grave they would secure permission for everything the girls did.
Nip has a single entity responsible for permission for most of their songs (in great part due to their love for Karaoke) meaning it was a one time only negotiation to get permission for JP songs.
EN songs? Each big label do their thing and it’s most automated with contentid.
I once saw one of those “watched walkers” (blokes that film themselves walking in cities) getting a copy strike for passing in front of a store with music on.
EN songs were not worth the hassle to license but sufficiently changed covers wouldn’t be identifiable by contentid so they likely just asked the girls not to archive any English singing so if they didn’t get taken down live there would be no archive to take down and strike.

2) the one you mentioned. With HoloEN growing big and wanting to do legal licenses covers (like that Countey Roads) Cover mostly likely than not had to approach labels to secure licenses for that.
Labels likely said
>blanket licensing will set you back some 10 million.
One off songs will be around 10k a pop but we’ll sweep your archives to make sure you’re not getting for free anything we could charge you for the rights.

That’s likely the reason for the coincidence between HoloEN cover and English covers on JP side vanishing.
The truth is: what’s right is what’s right and if they need a license they must either pay up or private and that’s what they did.

Everything derived from what happened in June, way before what happened in September

[Anonymous No.]

>>4954572
we really will never know if that was the planned end or something she had to throw together to get past the censors. It might be why she doesn't bother setting up an actual story anymore, just string out random plot hooks in case you have to shut it all down again

[Anonymous No.]

>>4891145
Quick question has cover copyrighted her nickname of HAACHAMA? Cause if not she could literally just continue being her schizo alter ego(minus the model) if she goes indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>4956460
They've made haachama merchandise and even let her use the nickname in official stuff like hologra so don't think she could take the money and run with that or any of her other named personalities. It would be weird anyway since haachama is just a wordplay on haato-sama

[Anonymous No.]

>>4956460
>Quick question has cover copyrighted her nickname of HAACHAMA?
They don't need to.
First because "work for hire" doesn't get any rights to the output they do while working for the company using company time and materials.
Second because you don't "copyright" (c) names, you register it as a registered TradeMark (r) for extra protection or simply claim it as a regular TradeMark (tm) without any need to register, for the protections the law already give by default.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4956432
when they blocked that finale, the trust got severed. some could move on, some didnt and left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4956432
>It might be why she doesn't bother setting up an actual story anymore, just string out random plot hooks in case you have to shut it all down again
Her time travel arc right after the COEXIST arc was as tight-knit as the former, where pretty much every stream starts with a lore intro/is directly to the lore IF it doesn't advance the plot itself. Before she went on her hiatus after the Gen 1 quiz collab she didn't appear to have any problems with conducing this new story arc.

In fact, we are actually in an overarching story right now: The oppression/third player arc (which could possibly be GODCHAMA). You'll notice this if pay attention to her REVIVAL stream. I know it doesn't feel like the lore streams are connected but they're not random bouts of standalone stories; there's a consistent theme of HAACHAMA and Akaihaato being forced to forget what happened in the previous arcs and thus are fighting each other again as a result.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4957308
Anon u do know haachama didn't planned for any of the lore stream until a few hours before it right??

[Anonymous No.]

>>4959318
Not my comment but here's a response to all those who thinks her improvising her lore streams a few hours before automatically means she just makes everything up on the spot:

>>Do you actually think she planned this much?
>No, I think most of this is the result of her throwing ideas out first and making sense of them later, but at least some of it was planned. Honestly, thinking that she does absolutely no planning is just as stupid as thinking she’s been planning everything since her debut. I don’t doubt that she chronically leaves shit until the last minute, but do you really believe that she doesn’t think about the lore at all between streams? It wouldn’t be hard for her to plan at least a few things in advance, all she really needs is an idea she wants to work towards.

And you want actual proof? Take a look at the description of this stream in the time travel arc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYYJSX-vBKY

今日は新キャラ登場するわよ~~~!
>新キャラ登場
>New character

She at least had a vague plan of introducing a new character/villain since the middle of the time travel arc. This is proven by the fact that the stream started with the lore intro (meaning something plot-relevant was scheduled to happen later in the stream) but ended up not happening because she didn't expect the cooking to be a complete failure. If it weren't for that, GODCHAMA or what was meant to be her would have been formally introduced by now.

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>>4959318
I am certain she cringes at lorefags. They are an embarrassment to all Haatons. They would usually sperg out in prechat and on l*ddit, but now because of withdrawal and an inability to start the conversation on r/Hololive they are here annoying the fuck out of us. Go back lorefags, you are the worst.

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>>4959318
Not my comment but here's a response to all those who thinks her improvising her lore streams a few hours before automatically means she just makes everything up on the spot:

>>Do you actually think she planned this much?
>No, I think most of this is the result of her throwing ideas out first and making sense of them later, but at least some of it was planned. Honestly, thinking that she does absolutely no planning is just as stupid as thinking she’s been planning everything since her debut. I don’t doubt that she chronically leaves shit until the last minute, but do you really believe that she doesn’t think about the lore at all between streams? It wouldn’t be hard for her to plan at least a few things in advance, all she really needs is an idea she wants to work towards.

And you want actual proof? Take a look at the description of this stream in the time travel arc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYYJSX-vBKY

今日は新キャラ登場するわよ~~~!
>新キャラ登場する
>Introducting a new character

She at least had a vague plan of introducing a new character/villain since the middle of the time travel arc. This is proven by the fact that the stream started with the lore intro (meaning something plot-relevant was scheduled to happen later in the stream; this is consistent with her former streams in the arc) but ended up not happening because she didn't expect the cooking to be a complete failure. If it weren't for that, GODCHAMA, or rather, what eventually became her would have been formally introduced by now.

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>>4959933
Oh wow, what is ascended fanon? Haachama has said herself that she does research on what people thinks of her story and incorporate theories/interpretations that she liked:
https://youtu.be/8MtNLpWEhOc?t=206

As expected of inferior EOPs who think they know what they're talking about.

* Not antichama btw

Also, Infinity as the BGM.

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>>4960006
>She at least had a vague plan of introducing a new character/villain since the middle of the time travel arc.
Yes she had a vague plan at first she even said it in her new years that she planned to make a horror anime but as it got dragged out I think she lost motivation in doing it because she no longer enjoyed doing it and it feels forced

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>>4960856
She even had a tag for the theories of the lores which I forgot what it's called

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>>4960856
Lorefags away! You are just embarrassing yourself, that was then this is now. You are cringe as fuck, especially after that little bitch fit. Kill yourself you unimaginative fucks. You are the reason the lore stalled and keeps getting repeated, you haven’t contributed anything of worth since March. At best she used your art and songs, she has never cared about your thoughts or ideas. You have been repeating yourselves ever since.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder to do your Infinity reps

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>>4961714
>At best she used your art and songs, she has never cared about your thoughts or ideas.
Are you just angry your art didn't get selected antichama?

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>>4960856
So there are 2 insufferable faggots that start every comment with “oh wow” while screeching about EOPs? The story has never progressed so what exactly do you think you contributed?

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>>4961854
People taking credit for her streams are just pathetic. Go back.

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>>4961902
Literally no one kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>4961863
I was just shitposting lol. I was mocking antichama but I suspect that not all posts that started with "Oh wow" were from the same guy, some of them were probably just imposers roleplaying as him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4962111
Oh wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>4962070
This
>>4960856

[Anonymous No.]

Screenshot this Haachama will
be postponingg her Haachama sunday and will start streaming a week after Coco left. You can grudgepost me if I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4962070
Lorefags spam chat with:
>Haato?
>is this Haato?
>I’m scared
Expecting a fucking Pulitzer.
She crafted a narrative around fan art she liked from the Horror contest, while pandering to l*ddit fags that kept spamming “Haachama killed Haato” every fucking day. Nothing since has been a direct result of fan lore, she has never needed your boring ass fan fiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4962406
>People taking credit for her streams are just pathetic
Sorry anon I'm genuinely confused on what's the link

[Anonymous No.]

>>4962406
>Lorefags spam chat with:
>Haato?
>is this Haato?
>I’m scared
These are not lorefags anon, these are ESLs who have nothing better to say because they can barely speak English. They are also people who are responsible for spamming hololive memes to death. It's obvious; why else would they say the same shit over and over with no variation whatsoever?

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>>4962767
She didn’t even know about that stupid meme until December when Coco explained to her on the Meme review. So she put up with having this shit spammed in her chat for 4 month before she even acknowledged it. Lorefags on l*ddit have been patting themselves on the back ever since. Simultaneously calling her a genius while taking credit for every bit of lore. To this day lorefags just regurgitate it nonstop without adding anything to it, just dissecting what has already happened and wanting praise simply for interpreting what has already happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4962478
This insufferable faggot that won’t stop pontificating about lore, like he’s writing his fucking dissertation.
>>4960006
>>4957308

[Anonymous No.]

>>4962767
I don't think they're lorefags, but they aren't necessarily ESLs either. Some people are just that uncreative. Some people will say the first thing that comes to their mind in chat at every single opportunity without wondering if it's worth saying.
>>4962987
>She didn’t even know about that stupid meme until December
No
https://youtu.be/y4vIw_NqFcc?t=605

[Anonymous No.]

>>4961714
>>4961902
>>4962406
>>4963069
>Angry as fuck for no reason
>Posts have as much swearing as possible
>Hates a specific group of fans indiscriminately
>Thinks Chammers is pandering to l*ddit (basically the same as EOPs)
>Randomly goes off on a tangent on unrelated topics
Alright gang, let's see who this anon really is!
*unmasks*
Antichama!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4962111
I made a bunch of oh wow posts just because his writing atyle is so fucking easy and funny. Say EOP 1-3 times in an insulting manner blaming them for some made up problem and drown in (you)s

[Anonymous No.]

Haato???

[Anonymous No.]

I don’t visit this place often but I cringe whenever someone is obsessed over an individual on an anonymous website so much so that the individual have a name. Such a shame too because I really like Haato but I can’t deal with this crap.

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>>4965058
Hah?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4965092
Come here during the streams and its pretty comfy with 30-60ish ips and antichama doesn't actually watch streams because he's EOP so the threads are very nice

[Anonymous No.]

What lore? I just want to see Haachama's feet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4965516
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4965516
We could have been discussing the mysteries and nuances of Haachama's feet for these 282 posts, and this is what we discuss instead. Shame on us.

[Anonymous No.]

I switched from porn to haachama's countdown to cum!

[Anonymous No.]

Why do her twintails move when she blinks?

[Anonymous No.]

Haachama please stream soon I don't know where else I can throw my money...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4967485
show the amounts

[Anonymous No.]

Just stopping by to say your oshi is cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>4969315
Don't need to tell me twice!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4969596
our Oshi is cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972503
>our
Back off, she's mine

[Anonymous No.]

>All of Haato's streams from the last week just got privated.
https://playboard.co/en/video/gSnvv0EBA7A
https://playboard.co/en/video/GxV2qkSWDsU
https://playboard.co/en/video/hDt5MF07Hfk
https://playboard.co/en/video/aNAHJGK2PJY
any thoughts?

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>>4974446
That seems bad. Was there anything in them that might have provoked that apart from the feet stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974446
Why must the suffering be never ending

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974446
The final yabe

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974446
>【凸待ち】#はあちゃま3周年 3rd anniversary!!
>private
well, shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974446

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974446
Knew this was coming. Haachama is graduating. I'm not supporting this shitty company after this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975085
What makes you jump to that conclusion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975085
>Haachama is graduating
To become my full fledge wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974446
Next is big announcement

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975085
Ain't it a bit too fast to graduate from college she just entered

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974446
Get me off this ride

[Anonymous No.]

due to her studies and various reasons which made it difficult for her to stream, so she decided to graduate
>It's going to be this in Haachama's wiki entry

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975171
FUCK YOU NIGGER

[Anonymous No.]

>>4962987
>>4963328
She knew about it even earlier than that
https://youtu.be/JxGf20fOn2U?t=64

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974446
Fuck this shit. I’m leaving hololive if she leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975297
Same honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975297
Join Nijisanji
We too have an Eldritch horror that goes by Lulu

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975128
This
>>4975236
Add her getting shit on by managment plus Coco leaving I think it's just reaching a breaking point for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975333
If it's not haachama I don't want it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975523
Join Haachama's sub account then

[Anonymous No.]

If haachama graduates after Coco I'll be 100% on the rrat that Cover sold out to the chinks

[Anonymous No.]

If Haachama graduates I'll just watch aria thinking that it's haachama

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975589
They have an 100th anniversary on July 1st
I'd be glad if Coco said sike just to upset them
Then we can keep Haachama as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975548
I thought his subaccount was abandoned

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975637
Coco is too nice she even said she loves her Chinese fans and spoke some Chinese during sc reading yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975589
I firmly believe the rrat that Cover force Coco to graduate in an attempt to stop the attack on other girls like Aqua and to bring things back to normal like pre-Taiwan. Graduating Haato is unnecessary for those goals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975665
It is

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975710
until graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>recent videos privated
>except the promotional from1st and the official single (which also could be for coco)
worried

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975702
Read this anon...
>>4923351
>>4923379
>>4923306

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/CPbiMg2AX4s

[Anonymous No.]

She's one of the few Holo's that could just get a normal job after this, right?
A college graduate with years of "professional" work experience...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975923
No, she's going to be in JAVs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975702
the audacity, i bet you are more than happy with this outcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975923
I think Marine is the most likely

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975085
>after this.
if you havent pulled your money when coco announced graduation and unsubbed from everyone other than your oshi, you're a grade A loser

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976050
Is grade A good or bad in this context?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976130
away

[Anonymous No.]

I saw a post on another thread about how time travel is banned in China, like skeletons...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975960
Her graduation is necessary to protect other girls

[Anonymous No.]

Haatons not like this....

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976181
>Her graduation is necessary to protect company interest
there, i corrected you

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976181
Akutan getting spammed literally has nothing to do with the taiwan situation

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976181
I think it'll do the exact opposite and now they will never ever stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976326
>be aqua
>think she can take the heat of APEX retarded toxic fan base to pursue her dream of solo master
>fails
>thinks she can shake off the recently acquired toxic APEX fan base
>fails
>people think it’s the zhangs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975749
There must be checking somwthing like art pernisions or something else. Nothing about singchama or 3rd aniverary is bad.
Im pretty aure theybqill.be back

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976326
To be honest she isnt getting spammed. Just bomb disliked. Not even spam in comments. Those usually dont last

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976534
>Im pretty aure theybqill.be back
HE’S GOT THE SPIDER EGGS IN HIS BRAIN
>shoot him! Shoot him now!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976463
It's ironically the Taiwanese that spammed her because the twitcy streamer got salty after losing when Akutan decided to circle around the ring

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976534
Anon do you have sudden autism at the end of those sentence Jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976617
>>4976583
I swear when i proof read it, it looked fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976534
>3rd aniverary is bad
Jesus the more I read the worse it gets kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976701
>somwthing like art pernisions
Bet you didn't catch this anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976534
this post is a fucking trainwreck lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976719
After that Holobass faggotry I wouldn’t doubt if Cover will get the girls to get permission in written for every piece of fan work they use, something like those journos on Twitter do when some bloke films some haj blowing up a bus full of nuns
>can I use your footage on channel 4 and channel 4 affiliated channels with full and proper credit to you?

[Anonymous No.]

If she's gone, I'm going to cry and drop the 1 other sub I have left while giving up on corporate chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976915
Which indies do you like and support right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976959
Pretty much just Kana & Sister Abigail

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976991
Link them mate, what kind of support is that that you don’t even give them (you)s

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976959
Not him but I really like Suzuka Stella. I’m a sucker for girls with beautiful voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977012
Off topic for the Haachama thread, but https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn1coImC6NMDYCQfH_ILzXw and https://www.twitch.tv/prayersfromabigail

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977103
This is not Reddit nigger, you can speak whatever you want in whatever thread you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977091
See >>4977012

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977130
I don't like when KFPtards come in here to shill their cunt of an oshi, why should I shill girls who aren't mine in my oshi's thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977103
>https://www.twitch.tv/prayersfromabigail
Iron Mouse

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977194
Isn’t ironmouse corporate now?

>>4977148
You can see that it is not “shilling” but talking about indies people support now and linking them to make sure people know who the fuck is being talked about (and throwing some crumbs their way too)

[Anonymous No.]

Are haatons abandoning ship for indies now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977234
Yes, Aria

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977234
Yes anon
>All of Haaton is one person
>that person is the one in the voices in your head

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977234
nah but everytime hato takes a break rats come out their sewers.
Ill jsut wait for the tarantula stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977234
I'm only leaving her if she leaves.

[Anonymous No.]

Is anyone worried that she just made her last 4 uploads private?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977534
Could be management that did it since they have access

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977540
It’s actually more than 4, it’s about 6 or so including the 3rd Anniversary one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974446
I had
>SINGCHAMA】進化したはあちゃまの歌をきけえええ!!!
buffered in the middle and was looking forward to finish watching it till the end after long work week.
>Video unavailable.
Made me jump a bit and I had to check her channel and twitter in panic. I will never get used to this.

[Anonymous No.]

>Haachama's videos are getting privated
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976534
>pernisions
I love how this post just keeps getting more and more weird the longer you read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977693
Search the title + ragtag and you can finish the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978197
I've found some reupload without SC reading. I expected I'd find something. I was rather going on about how shocked I was in the moment, now with the whole Coco situation and chama being chama.
I know that one day she might be gone without even saying goodbye and I am still not able to cope with that.

[Anonymous No.]

Miko is collabing with Haachama tomorrow, 22:00 JST

[Anonymous No.]

Miko just mentioned Haachama during superchat reading

[Anonymous No.]

[EN]: I want to become even closer with Haachama like I did with Pekora during our sleepover

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978417
>this
>streams getting privated
I do not understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978417
>>4978475
Ah nice, can't wa-
>>4978509
Oh no

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if management bonked her for the constant feet stuff, or if she cringed herself out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978509
Welp. If chammers suddenly announced graduation shortly after this, then we can blame Miko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978514
to make you question logic and sanity is her only goal
you WILL become a schizo

[Anonymous No.]

Did chama use feet on the member stream? Since it's the only one that is still up

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978605
When did Haachama start using her feet asset?

[Anonymous No.]

when Miko loves Haachama so much that she can sound almost similar to her

[Anonymous No.]

She didn’t have any schizo stuff going on in the latest streams and there was nothing wrong in any of them. The song is up, and that was the same time frame. Don’t yell at me for this but if she plans to leave she may have that as her last video (or is just emotional and acting impulsively, girls with adhd can do this)

Based on what coco said, the time when she told the others about her graduation was around when Haachama first started doing schizo stuff (yes yes and there’s a BUNCH of factors that lead to her depression and the schizo shit, I’m not pinning it all on one thing, so don’t go at me for this okay?)

But definitely whatever triggered her this time is related to Coco (and whatever else we don’t know, Uni) and her way to deal with this is privating and going radio silent. I very much doubt management would have privated her third year anniversary stream. She’s majorly upset, whether or not that’s something to be concerned about, idk, she’s done it before

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978509
NOooooooooooo dont touch my wife-daughter you lesbian devil, you've already corrupted the bunny and she didnt recover from it. dont touch my chammers

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4950159
I guess that makes sense why Cover bows to the Chinese, the deals they make with other companies are forcing their head down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4979028
This actually was interesting, shame it didn't go anywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978509
I've always wonder why Miko only give Haato the special treatment. She's not the only blonde girl with big tits in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4979428
Miko's a footfag and chama is supposed to be a tsundere ojousama abusing her fans, it just works for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>4979428
Is their a bust chart for the holos, where does Haachama rank

[Anonymous No.]

>>4979505
Women can't be footfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>4979588

[Anonymous No.]

>>4979749
Then Gen 5 came and destroyed the balance

[Anonymous No.]

>>4979788
Lamy bazoongas are underrated as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

Miko is trying to convince Haachama not to leave company like she did to Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4979846
BIG LAMY

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978888
Sure thing buddy, now if you can wait here just a minute your Uber to the crazy house is just arriving.
Don’t worry, it will sting just a little and the voices will go away

[Anonymous No.]

did miko say if it was going to be offcollab? hard with covid but still

[Anonymous No.]

>>4980236
oh the 35p thread said it was minecraft >>4978463

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978627
https://youtu.be/ICim2O8u2ms

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978627
>>4980947
IIRC it was a gift from magowasabi, they may be trying to secure formal permission for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4981142
A reasonable and likely rrat? In my Haachama thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975749
Rrats out telling us "there is nothing wrong". Well, last time a bunch of Chammers videos got privated she went on a month long hiatus. She's graduating, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Nene 3D live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdio7hLzy3w

She cute!

[Anonymous No.]

This thread dies with Haato's graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>>4981952
no

[Anonymous No.]

Claiming last post for our beloved queen and owner of the mortal coil all Haaton temporarily inhabit

[Anonymous No.]

Claiming last post for wifechama

[Anonymous No.]

>>4981333
Well, she came back after the last time she did this, right? I know this looks really bad and I'm starting to doubt everything, but I will still believe in Haachama. Laugh at me all you want but I'm not giving up hope until the last moment. We've been through this many times before

[Anonymous No.]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]