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Come on, Yuri, spill the beans on phase connect, aka black w
company, who steals your models.

>> No.48835083

>>48834969
>who steals your models
fr?
why'd she give up the right to her character to phase??

>> No.48835257
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>>48835083
because sakana is a chink and chinks are just as bad as you know who
lumi said everyone's contract is different, so she probably was smart enough to spot chinkish tricks, but yuri is young and gullible

>> No.48835563

>>48834969
>sign contract that sells her model in exchange of the corp funding her new model
>get fired and lose model
>people on the internet get mad at the corp and accuse them of stealing her model

>> No.48835641

>>48835563
they wiped her whole personalities and pre-phase content
this is bullshit
they even unpersoned her from this 4 person collab
https://youtu.be/NWMwO1CZR-c

>> No.48835651

>>48835563
>black company stole the model she got from previous company
>somehow phasenig manage to smear this to the talent that left the company
The mental gymnastic performed by phasenigs are wrothy of olympic gold.

>> No.48835675

>>48834969
>break the rules
>get terminated
>WAAAHHHH I DIDNT DESERVE IT WAAHHHH
get fucked

>> No.48835757

>>48835651
>'stole'
"Can't rape the willing."

>> No.48835799

>>48835675
Are you talking about Zaion or Yuri?

>> No.48835827

>>48835675
Reading comprehension? She agrees that Niji and her should part ways for all her shortcomings, it's the fact that they couldn't agree on a more amicable statement for her termination that pissed her off.

>> No.48835830

>vshojo, nijisanji and phase all take a giant shit within a week
is mythic the only good choice left for English indies

>> No.48835847

The contract is bullshit and Sakana is a retard for not letting her leave with her model because it's giving him and the company awful PR for absolutely no reason.
They gain nothing from keeping her character dead.
But besides that Phase Connect seems pretty decent in general, far far from what Nijisanji is like.
There's not much she can bring up even if she broke her NDA.
Like with Nijisanji plenty people here already knew what was going on and Sayu just exposed it and confirmed it.
People nit pick Phase Connect a lot if there really was more black company shit people would already know about it.
The worst things about the company are the stupid meetings at awful times that management seems to love doing and forcing them to do a certain amount of shorts which is arguably something beneficial to their career as vtubers.

>> No.48835849

>>48834969
Can't tell if nijiflecting from black company, or just stupid.
Carry on, for now.

>> No.48835870

>>48835799
both deserved it, even Zaion admitted it

>> No.48835886

>>48835641
>>48835651
Yes anon that's what signing a contract that sells your whole vtuber persona does. She got a new model out of it, and even tweaked it a lot, but that was likely only because of the contract because anyone knows how retarded it is to trash a model 3 months after you spend a ton on it.
Sorry anon but my post is sponsored by Dee's Nuts so your arguments are invalid.

>> No.48835900

>>48835830
Hololive is still the best option, just wait 3 more years for them to debut EN3.

>> No.48836010 [DELETED] 

>>48835847
>The worst things about the company are the stupid meetings at awful times that management seems to love doing
now that you mention it I havent heard anyone complain about midnight meetings in a while

>> No.48836099

>meanwhile, Vshojo literally becomes a stepping stone for three people in the same week because muh not corp
Yeah OP, you join a corp, you lose some rights but gain others. The gains are usually much better than the losses, except for Niji who only pays in exposure. If you fuck up so hard through the course of one year that even after the CEO tries to negotiate your stay you decide to leave anyway, the problem's on your side.

>> No.48836104

>>48835870
The funny thing about it is, Zaion didn't admit to deserving the treatment she received - she actually specifically points out that it was simply the best thing for both of them.

She escaped before they actually got her killed.

>> No.48836114

>>48835900
I will groom my children so that I get grandchildren who can support EN3 in my stead

>> No.48836137

#IBelieveYubi

>> No.48836156

>>48835563
So if someone tricks another person into signing a contract to kill themselves and to sell everything they own to them before they die, it's justified because the contract is unbreakable no matter what and if you break the contract you're the bad guy even if the terms are unreasonable?

Can you sign this contract here to kill yourself?

>> No.48836163

>>48835847
>They gain nothing from keeping her character dead.
They'd lose authority over their remaining talents because the talents (and their fans) might feel like it creates a precedent for talents being able to leave with their model, even after a termination.
That the corpo kills your identity if you leave is the most important leverage most corpos have, they can't afford to weaken that.

>> No.48836215

>>48836156
Sorry devil, but no, I won't make a deal with you because I can read. Try again when I'm despertaly trying to run away from a dying corp or something.

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>>48834969
>>48835257
>>48835641
>>48835651
>>48835799
>>48835847
>>48836137
Yuri doesn't hate phase connect, infact she followed every talent on Twitter.

>> No.48836268

>>48835563
>gets taken advantage of by black corpo
>suffers the consequences
It's theft by any other name. Yuri did nothing wrong. Phase did her dirty.

>> No.48836284

>>48835847
Have you considered that Yuri openly disliked her old model? She probably didn't want to go back to her old model. If anything Fishman was very generous setting her up with the new bunny one

>> No.48836303

>>48836099
>he actually believes in Sakana's bullshit pr
haha

>> No.48836369

>>48836303
>d-doesn't count because it doesn't fit my narrative!
The fact that she was allowed one pre-recorded farewell video says enough.
Where's Zaion's farewell?

>> No.48836398

>Zaion joins Mythic
>Immediately joins those circle jerk discord calls while Asmon forces everyone to play Classic WoW
She deserves a better fate

>> No.48836407

>>48836156
If somebody signs an industry-standard contract that isn't regarded as being predatory by anybody legally allowed to sign contracts for themselves, from countries where predatory contracts are frowned upon

And then breaks that contract...

Yeah, that's a mistake on their end.

Consider arguing the morality of not giving grace periods for the exit in order to set up the contingency identity, there's actually some merit there.

>> No.48836528

>>48836398
people doubting asmon just because he's a sperg only seems to last as long as actually trying out his genuine professional advice for streaming, the the way he cooks his cheap steaks, or on looking up how it is that he's tism'd into getting the necessary vitamins and minerals.

But that's the evidence-based approach in general; it doesn't sit well with people that just want to feel good, without ever having to understand that disagreeing with an opinion doesn't distort space and time to make the stats behind it incorrect.

>> No.48836637

>>48836163
She's a special case tho, since the company didn't create her character, she brought it along with herself.
That makes her situation different in terms of PR and in terms of corporate leverage.
It wouldn't create a precedent for anyone besides her and Lumi and maybe other potential invaders.
The general public accepts that vtuber companies take away characters they give out when vtubers are fired, but in this case most people I see side against Phase Connect because it looks like a corpo taking away an indie's character.

>> No.48836664

>>48836528
>Streamer house in Austin saga
Dude's a fucking retard who listens to his dick when cute streamer girls ask. Mythic is fucked

>> No.48836702
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48836702

>>48834969
I'm sorry. Who's this y*ri?

>> No.48836722

>>48834969
Reminder pcg schizos harassed her over following ex cl girls
https://twitter.com/Nanobites_/status/1654214359525015557
They even were openly(posted screenshots and said it out loud) shitting up her maros with hate
https://marshmallow-qa.com/nanobites_
so she closed them
Black company, unhinged fanbase.

>> No.48836800

>>48836637
She also got terminated instead of graduated, everyone would expect talents leaving on better terms to get at least an equal deal.
Legally there's no difference between getting your model from the corpo or selling yours to it, and I disagree that most fans would make a strong distinction between the two cases either.

>> No.48836813

>>48836664
he's also a sperg that learns patterns, so Mythic is 50:50 at worst

>> No.48836816

>>48836722
>One(1) schizo anti harassing her and shitting up the thread because he wanted to screw up the OP
We are unhinged, but that wasn't the fanbase on this occasion

>> No.48836834

>>48836722
That's you shitting up the thread.
It's incredibly obvious.

>> No.48836848

>>48835900
The war for Taiwan will have started by then

>> No.48836924

>>48835641
>they even unpersoned her from this 4 person collab
Yuri left that collab early and wasn't there during the part shown in that clip.
Why be dishonest like that?

>> No.48836952

>>48836816
>>48836834
When Jannie went rogue, I clearly remember multiple people promising to harass her. Drop the act, fags.

>> No.48836970

>>48836924
Because they only get paid to make Zaion deflection

>> No.48837017

>>48836952
That's still you

>> No.48837022

>>48836924
>Yuri left that collab early
>3 hours in is early

>> No.48837027

>>48836952
Was this before or after Moot and Snacks showed up and told everyone they ousted jap moot and your Oshi DM'd you professing her love?

>> No.48837052

>>48836952
Oh nyo, someone stop them from shitposting in /pcg/!!!!!

>> No.48837119

>>48837022
The fun part started after she left.
Cutting around her is still shitty though.

>> No.48837163

>>48835900
I can't wait for the first black trans vtuber, BY POPULAR DEMAND.

>> No.48837218

>>48837017
Noyou'ing me is not going to unsend your hate messages. drop dead
>>48837052
pcg is filled with kiwis. They are not shitposting.

>> No.48837249

>>48836228
Being friends with the Phase Connect girls is not the same as liking Phase Connect as a company. Does she follow Sakana?

>> No.48837251

>>48836010
Meetings are at awkward times because the talents come from all over the world and have their own schedules going on anyways.

>> No.48837274

>>48836228
And nobody followed her back
Its clear where everyone else stands

>> No.48837312

>>48837218
Henri, only you type like this. Please stop it, go get some help

>> No.48837323

>>48834969
It's bullshit that they didn't let her use her old model and keep her identity, even if they contractually didn't have to. It's not like doing so costs them any money.

Still, what Phase did to Yuri isn't anything like the magnitude of fuckery Niji did to Zaion.

>> No.48837326

>>48837218
Yes, yes. /vt/ is srs business and the internet hate machine.

>> No.48837334

>>48835886
> She got a new model out of it, and even tweaked it a lot
ah yes, the model i remember yuri paid out of pocket to tweak

>> No.48837559

>>48837312
Rent free.
>>48837326
Kiwis do harass people, despite denying it.

>> No.48837631

>>48835847
>They gain nothing from keeping her character dead
It's a smart move by them, they make sure no one will get in PC only to get an expensive model and then leave and they can still sell any Yuri merch they have in storage without giving her a cut.
Is it scummy? a bit, but still a smart move by them.

>> No.48837702

>>48835675
>rules: YOU WILL NOT TALK ABOUT DEEZ NUTS ON STREAM

>> No.48838055

>>48837631
Yuri gave them 3 vtuber models, a ton of assets, and all her socials for free when she joined the company.
>She has said before that Phase didn't buy her model
The one model she got from Phase can't possibly be an equal trade for all of that.

>> No.48838176

>>48837631
They actually killed any merch they still had with her.
Even the coffee.

>> No.48838247

I will forever be Yuripilled.

>> No.48838265

I will forever be cuck.

>> No.48838440

>>48837274
>Fish banned them from interacting with her

>> No.48838756

>>48836407
>industry-standard
The standard can be predatory
>>48834969
My rrat. She signed a low ball contract. She repeated took money under the table because she didn't like low ball contract (What I believe is the "repeated breaches"). Negotiations came to a stand still and she got fired.
Really curious about these negotiations. Mainly if Phase offered to let her buy back and at what price.

>> No.48838889

>>48836924
>Why be dishonest like that?
Welcome to /vt/.

>> No.48838980

Has siding with a corpo ever turned out right? It seems corpos always screw the talents over whenever things get revealed at the end.

>> No.48839004

>>48838756
plausible

>> No.48839069

>>48838980
Has siding with a woman ever turnt out right?

>> No.48839111

>>48838980
Cover is literally the only one that might be fine, the pulling out of china was huge.
However Coco was in a odd spot after so probably not even them.

>> No.48839456

>>48837559
Is Pippa working with the Kiwis?

>> No.48840365

>>48839456
Do you phaseniggers really think you are smart when you containment break 24/7 on twitter and act like this after? legit question.

>> No.48841066

>>48840365
this is /vt/: almost everybody here incorrectly thinks they're smart while breaking containment and noticing none of the irony

>> No.48841501

>>48840365
I don't have a twitter account

>> No.48841651

>>48838265
Chumbud..

>> No.48842043

>>48834969
Nice bait thread.

>> No.48842328

>>48838756
Your rrat is pretty much the same as my rrat take on this.
I'd agree that Phase probably offered to let her buy out, mostly because I can't see Sakana leaving money on the table right before he needs to pay-out donothon refunds.
More a question of "did he pitch high and stick to his guns?" or "did he toss low and Yuri didn't think it was worth it/was too bad with finances to get a loan to cover it?"
Like, yeah, killing off a brand that creates content that's competitive to your own content does have some financial value. But not nearly as much as people think, particularly in a media market that's oversaturated with content anyways. That's more Sony vs. Disney level thinking.

>> No.48842503

>>48838756
and anons cannot read

isn't that right, >>48838756 ?

>> No.48842864

all the people who actually served as most of her income (whales) are already aware of her next incarnation and in her discord. all she has to do is stream and she'll get pretty much the same amount of money as before

what's the problem with losing the model and the persona? she very little materially
I guess there's the past streams and content but that doesn't count for anything income wise

>> No.48842967

>>48838440
I don't believe that. He's too busy playing League to micromanage the girls

>> No.48843032

>>48838756
notLia and notPippa's thrones are still up so I don't think that's likely. Even if she was I don't think Fishman would offer a contract worth quitting over THEN refund the donothon out his pocket.

>> No.48843247

>>48843032
And the funny thing that occurs me is that if he had offered Yuri a buyout and she took it, he might have even been able to wash his hands of the donothon thing.
>She's still streaming. Take it up with her.

>> No.48844232

>>48836722
>iN mY nOtIfF?!?!
Jesus Christ she’s terminal

>> No.48844312

>>48837218
Henry…

>> No.48844380

>>48837559
Us laughing at you is not rent free, more like the gallery throwing peanuts at chimps through bars

>> No.48844461

>>48840365
>muh sekret klub 4 kool Kidz

Autistic or underage, I can’t tell which one you are

>> No.48844818

>>48844312
rent free
>>48844380
rent free

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