The Failure of Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys think UMG regret picking her up?

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Not only do you make the same thread everyday, you don't even have the decency to not shit up the catalog

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>>48632670
>>/vt/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=hololive_en_callipe_mori_1_million_subs.jpg&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post
What is this mental illness called?

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>>48632597
Yeah, me.

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>>48632760
I'm going to call it "/hlg/"

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>>48632818
/hlg/ is worst than /#/ no cap.

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>>48632597
No, I don't think UMJ regrets hiring her, they've stated that they see Mori as an important asset that proves that their Japanese talents don't just have to appeal solely to local markets, but instead can find success in catering to international audiences.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.billboard.com/music/music-news/universal-music-japan-global-approach-1235258167/amp/

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>>48633039
they do feel the regret after the BD sales flopped really hard

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>>48633068
Anon, the Blu-Rays are mostly print to order, they literally can't lose money.

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>>48633198
nope, sony/umg always do their work on a "quota" rule

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>>48633039
Anon, you expect a record company to say anything bad about an artist they signed? That's fucking marketing speak, retard.
Anyone can tell she's washed up just by looking at her numbers. No one else in hololive is crashing and burning as fast as she is.

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>>48632597
Her music is number one tho.

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>>48633399
no.1 flopped? lemao

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>>48633399
No it isn't, Do u mogged most of her recent releases.

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>>48633388
Bro, this article was written *after* Sinderella's marketing period. When artists flop the studio just won't bring them up, especially in a positive light.

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>>48632597
No because UMG doesn't care about her quality as a vtuber

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>>48632597
She is a flop

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>>48633399
Her music is best
ON MUTE

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>>48633667
We get it, Twitter. Now go back to sperging about her being racist like you always do.

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>>48632597
Yeah they got scammed. They didn't see the decline coming. They signed her for her numbers. At least she can reliably pump out songs.

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>>48633388
>No one else in hololive is crashing and burning as fast as she is.
Uh, Mori is living her dream collabing with Japanese artists people outside the vtuber scene have actually heard of and performing live around the world - she got literally everything she ever wanted out of her HoloEN career.

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yea they're probably mad about the artist whos albums are selling out and continuing to incline. they probably hate that

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>>48634170
>My oshi is leeching off her colleagues

[Anonymous No.]

>he thinks labels regret signing anyone
The pressure is on the artist, not the label. The label can afford to wait. The label can make absolutely zero dollars off you and simply ignore you, not spending a dime on you. There are artists out there like Jojo who didn't release a single album for ten years because of a dispute. They don't give a fuck, they would rather you make them zero dollars if it costs them zero dollars to keep you.

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>>48634335
That isn't what leeching means.

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>>48635055
iirc leeching is when one of the biggest bands in japan seeks you out specifically because they love you so much

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They lost nothing from it. Why would they care? She is a drop in the ocean.

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>>48632597
>Do you guys think UMG regret picking her up?
no

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No, they take 90% of her money and do nothing in return
"getting signed to a major record label" is a trap for insecure people seeking validation and newbies who dont know how the industry works now

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>>48632597
>The Failure of Hololive
how so?

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>>48633420
Mera Mera has almost twice the views Do U has on YouTube. What are you talking about?

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>>48633399
>white rap
Her a capella concert was nice.

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She'll end up like the last white rap bitch to sign to a label

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>>48642182
What part of "recent" don't you understand gaslight beat? Imagine grasping so hard at straws you name a song that's 1 year old and released way earlier than DO U.

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>>48643075
ok what about kiara's older releases

hinotori, heart challenger, and fever night are all mogged and had more time to accumulate views

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>>48643223
>Check out how "the singer of EN" is getting mogged by Kiara recently
>but what about all this other irrelevant goalpost moving?

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>>48643277
NTA but why do you care again?

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>>48643373
Very important to start fanbase wars, pls understand
also
>recent
>7 months ago

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>>48643277
so kiara is only capable of making one successful original in almost 3 years?

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>>48643373
It's indicative of how hard Mori is becoming irrelevant and how bad her numbers are.

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>>48633198
Didn't they have to spend money to advertise that?

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>>48645583
The only advertising I've seen has been Mori herself and 1 flyer.

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>Oppa Gangnam Style has more views than Castle on a hill!
>Sheeran is a hasbeen! Psy 4evaaa!
This is what you sound like.

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>>48633420
I know you were shitposting, but if any anon actually think this, it'd be ultra dumb.
It's like saying since that Bae's Play Dice performance upon release mogged Mori's recent releases, Bae is a more successful singer.
You don't compare singers based on one or two releases. Kiara getting one good hit out of dozens in years isn't really better than Mori who managed to release dozen songs over the same period, with each song only a bit behind "Do U"

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>>48645838
Butter would be a better comparison since the Algo was irreparably damaged by the KPop idiots spamming views.

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The one common thing about these threads is the desperation and projection this individual seems to have. It feels like it thinks it can have a better job as Mori. That's what it all ends up being.

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>>48646101
Things are worse than I thought if you have to use the Phil Fish defence

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>>48646270
It is. It always, always defaults to a "I could do better" tone.

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>>48646101
No the one common thing in these threads is the straight up fiction they come up with. "By all metrics that matter Mori is very suceasful, but she flopped because *reason pulled from the deepest part of their ass with 0 proof*"

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>>48646462
Notice how it attacks the Blu-ray now because COVER released that document stressing that Merchandise is now one of their key statistics?
>>48646462
It's the ramblings of a 2view who unironically thinks she'd be better in the role.

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>>48633198
No they aren't you lying piece of shit cuckbeat. They're literally wasting shelfspace in Japan because nobody is buying them.

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>>48632760
>since 2021
talking some dedication here

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>>48632597
>Do you guys think
lol good one

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>>48632597
https://www.universal-music.co.jp/kotone/
UMG have lazy bitches like this signed to them.

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>>48632597
ywnbaw and she is doing great.

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>>48632597
>Has a contract with Universal
>Top songs in Spotify
I'm not even her fan and I know this.

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>>48646683
Showing a shelf that seems to only have a single copy left on the same day it came out isn't the own you think it is.

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>>48647406
>They don't sell them in stores, she can't lose money
>yes they do
>Mori still won
The Cuckbeats guide to argumentation.

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>>48632597
>The Failure of Hololive
Wrong pic, thats not Matsuri or Ame

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>>48648117
Got to be honest, I didn't know they were selling the Blu Ray in store. I used assumed it was an online only item like most of Cover's other Blu Rays

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>>48648385
atleast those two are still relevant, meanwhile Mori lose her popularity and was hated on every social media platform(her biggest antis are from tiktok rappers and musicians)

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>>48648438
is this the new one she was shilling? hope they didn't preproduce a bunch of physical copies...

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>>48649239
>atleast those two are still relevant
Kek, that would be a reasonable argument but you started with that sentence and dipped it in shit

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>>48646683
What the fuck why did my post get deleted?

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>>48650007

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>>48650036
>show proof of lie
Fuck this board.

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>>48650007
Cuckbeat janny.

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>>48645734
just being part of hololive is the biggest advertisement possible, especially considering the amount of clippers that that gets you..

and if I was hololive I would also not spend 1 extra cent advertising a trashy thot that can't even be bothered to stay awake during a collab.

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>>48650069
>show proof of a lie
>lie in the same post
what did he mean by this

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>>48650007
>>48650154
Someone doesn't want people to know her blu-ray ain't selling, RUMAO.

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>>48646683
The absolute state of this board. This is pathetic.

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>>48650224
>that can't even be bothered to stay awake during a collab
I don't think that has been a problem since she left her teaching job

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>>48650877
If you haven't noticed 99% of anti posts about Mori are 2+ years old.

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>>48643223
textcomprehensionbeat...

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>>48632597
I genuinely don't understand why these threads are made.
There are holos who are much, much smaller than Mori, to say nothing about Holostars, and yet in your mind you think Cover consider her a failure?
Her output of songs is consistent both in timing and in the audience it attracts, and you think that UMG regrets giving her a contract?
How deluded can you be?
You can criticize Mori for a lot of things, yet you pick literally the only things that can be disproven by objective data and a bit of logic. Why?

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>>48642509
>>48633667
I don't like to defend Mori, but I will when darkies make it about race. She is more talented than your tribal people's "music" and at least knows more than one language.

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>>48638844
True.
https://youtu.be/WW8m7NTTf5Q

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>>48660440
Meant to respond to this post as well.
>>48634718

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>>48650007
>>48650366
I call it the /vt/ Cuckbeat Coverup special

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>>48660542
Do you seriously believe that image proves anything? Jesus Christ people will believe anything as long as it supports they belief.

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>>48632597
Except for that her RM is a Twitch simp, Mori is surely the best Vtuber.
Seriously, I was disgusted by her stupid behavior last year.

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>>48660804
Funnily enough, it actually proves that people are buying the blu-ray since there's only a single copy left in that image and it hasn't even been a day

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>>48662445
Actually I think you'll find that Mori's dreams have been crushed because that copy (and specifically that copy) hasn't been sold yet

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>>48662445
>>48663944

It's actually even dumber than that. Zoom on the image. It clearly says "Sample" so it's either sold out or it's one of those things where you have to ask for them to grab you a copy.

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>>4866424
Being a Sample means it’s not sold out, it’s just another way to advertise/beg people to preorder it.

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>>48642182
>>48643277
>getting mogged by Kiara recently
This argument so funny because it requires you to ignore that in the same time frame Mori has released like 4x music and thus has to compete amongst itself
Mera Mera vs Do U is apt comparison because they released under the same circumstance
Otherwise you're comparing anywhere between 12-22 songs to 1 song and wondering why the 1 song has more cumulative viewership

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>>48665694
People liked Do U, Mori having significantly more misses just proves how much she sucks.

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>>48664241
Being a Sample means it’s not sold out, it’s just another way to advertise/beg people to preorder it.

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>>48665861
cope

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>>48665795
No it just means her fans have 20x more options if they want to stick some songs on a playlist. If I want to make a varied playlist of holo songs from last year I have something like 47 options for Mori and 4? for Kaira if you include covers for both of them.

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>>48665795
Mori has two solo songs in the top 30 this half month and kiara has one. Both are fine why are you being a bitch about this?

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>>48665795
>People liked Do U, Mori having significantly more misses just proves how much she sucks.
Mori:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzOXIHGfVFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlWzYgXfvgU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvKGGXDnt4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGx4zXFQM4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etW-seMBfeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-3kPLHNn5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmoOgPsSPTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bc1GW-zsPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOuNKm4ApZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbgWUK_tidI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOJOaq22nug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9cflnJYZ9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEHbF1PsLI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsJY8bli86s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIa8Vaj1HE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lil1Ffnl4qU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92tvv7PgKeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJp7Vf6bTHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Uwh8uAygI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=legdkMwLklA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqFDi0_UhjE
Kiara:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI96hnhcr2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW_0FOYCvjs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW_0FOYCvjs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ0hczPwSnM
It's more like Mori's viewers have an insane amount of MVs to spread themselves across vs Kiara's handful of MVs means her viewers funnel into a singular MV cause they have fewer choices

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Man end of a life is so good live again is also good. Mori's slow songs are great.

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>>48666184
Speaking of Covers, why isn't this idiot speaking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92tvv7PgKeI ?

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>>48666427
That's also missing all the songs with no MV and covers she did on other people's channels.

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>>48665795
>>48666427
AND that's not even factoring shit that doesn't have official MV releases
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwOat0JYPAY&list=OLAK5uy_kPs8XkYFQkxZLFjIIMhOUCvcW8q37Pbr8&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq0xVtTr5a0&list=OLAK5uy_kPs8XkYFQkxZLFjIIMhOUCvcW8q37Pbr8&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuTSmrDwyLw&list=OLAK5uy_kPs8XkYFQkxZLFjIIMhOUCvcW8q37Pbr8&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hve3-Uum7dk&list=OLAK5uy_kPs8XkYFQkxZLFjIIMhOUCvcW8q37Pbr8&index=8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1Iq738NU5o&list=OLAK5uy_kPs8XkYFQkxZLFjIIMhOUCvcW8q37Pbr8&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ytHNCSTNY&list=OLAK5uy_kPs8XkYFQkxZLFjIIMhOUCvcW8q37Pbr8&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJs75TNhBc&list=OLAK5uy_l3FSviUTVq2ohuXcDoBmGA_gxmuLKEaMQ&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-h3UfDlHAw&list=OLAK5uy_l3FSviUTVq2ohuXcDoBmGA_gxmuLKEaMQ&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaitHKsHu9Q&list=OLAK5uy_l3FSviUTVq2ohuXcDoBmGA_gxmuLKEaMQ&index=8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um_8VrrQrHw&list=OLAK5uy_l3FSviUTVq2ohuXcDoBmGA_gxmuLKEaMQ&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyjfi-LwUko&list=OLAK5uy_l3FSviUTVq2ohuXcDoBmGA_gxmuLKEaMQ&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyjfi-LwUko&list=OLAK5uy_l3FSviUTVq2ohuXcDoBmGA_gxmuLKEaMQ&index=11
I sincerely doubt anyone besides maybe Suisei could have this level of output and keep a stable viewer retention

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>>48666763
Huge W is the stupidest song and I love it

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>>48666790
I heard it played at an anime rave (yes those exist) not too long ago. it was hype as fuck. She should make a full shitpost hype EDM EP just for fun. She is good at those.

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>>"They're literally wasting shelfspace in Japan because nobody is buying them."
>All but 1(ONE) copy sold out
Most baffling post of 2023, are you fucking blind?

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>>48646683
>"They're literally wasting shelfspace in Japan because nobody is buying them."
>All but 1(ONE) copy sold out
Most baffling post of 2023, are you fucking blind?

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>>48668257
It's like Doomcock predicting the Kathleen Kennedy firing for almost 5 years now.

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All I got out of this thread is that I want Kiara's album to come out so she has more songs to sing, and so she and Mori can celebrate the successes together.

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>>48668616
yeah, I hope they finally can do a duo song together at the EN concert.

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>>48668616
Same. I want more Kiara music too.

[Anonymous No.]

They're probably too busy getting head or sexually exploiting talents to care

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>>48668616
based mentally sane hololive enjoyer

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>>48632597
the runt of the hololive
so many decent singers
pick the rap retard. JP are retarded
sees suishei sold out concert music easily 1m + on all songs.
UMG be like, why u sent us this shit?

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>>48672542
In English please

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>>48672655
the sub 80 IQ NPC reply as expected

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>>48672734

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>>48632818
dogfuckers can go to hell, yeah.

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>>48632597
Anyone would regret picking her up.

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>>48632597
If she's considered a failure, then you should be regarded as worth less than trash

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>>48672542
Go post on your ID forums instead SEA-chama

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>>48632760
Zoki

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>>48632670
Man that music store thread looks so comfy. To bad I missed it.

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>>48666016
It’s not for sale, that is just a way to preorder.
This is what coping looks like:
>>48666184
>>48666427
>>48666763

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>>48632597
Hey man Failure music is actually good, don't insult them like that.