/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Avrages of different corpos

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back to your containment thread, numberchimp

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>>48569253
Get back in your hole numberfag

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>>>/vt//#/

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>>48569277
>>48569284
>>48569297
Go back seething 2 views if you want to look then look this isn't your fucking hugbox

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>>48569253
>nijis and tempiss dying
all is good in the world

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>>48569349
>cries at being told to fuck off
not your hugbox you baby

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>>48569550
>If you want to look then look
>HAHA YOU ARE CRYING
kys

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>>48569277
>>48569284
>>48569297
If you spent less time seething /here/ and actually watched your tempiss boys maybe they wouldn't be at the bottom

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>>48569613
>>48569607
>still crying
SEA tears are the funniest because they seethe while they bawl

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>>48569253
did you even try to correct your spelling

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>>48569710
Correct spelling is for nerds

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>>48569253
>HoloEN was flattening out until Tempiss collabs started
>Sudden downward pivot
>Never recovered
Hmmmmmmmm

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>>48569687
>Actual nijinigger behaviour
Seethe more one of your en members is on deathbed it seems

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>>48569253
Tempus is crashing the EN branch with no survivors lmao

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>>48569829
Yeah only EN3 can save them at this point even though they are still the #2 among all corpos

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>>48569860
>Numbertranny coping and deflecting at being called a retarded monkey
Niji can all die, you will always be a subhuman.

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>>48569829
No wonder sisters seethe at numbers

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>>48569936
If you aren't a nijinigger why do you act like one?

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>>48569905
>EN3
They’re going to have “collab with Tempus” in their debut goals and it will cripple them

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>>48569829
Yeah it's pretty baffling. Considering how hard those faggots get shilled both on this board and outside you'd think they'd be at least on part with the HoloEN girls. Instead they get mogged by the ID and even some small corpo chuubas.
Guess their fans are just a loud and obnoxious minority.

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>>48569973
>only le nijinijjers hate numberapes
wrong, fuck off

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>>48569973
If you aren’t a SEA seethemonkey, why do you scream at being called one?

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>>48569253
What is that yellow line that says CCIVID?

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>>48570036
Are you getting paid to deflect or something? Get yourself together or go post more gay porn bdsm fantasies in /mans/.

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>>48570078
It's when YouTube completely fucked over (mostly) hololives CCV numbers don't know what caused it but holos were getting there numbers culled like crazy out of nowhere it took some time for them to recover, it spread from one channel to another like COVID this it was named CCVID

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>6 months ago, when homos were doing well and spamming collabs with Holos
>"ahaha seethe and cope incels you can't do anything about it!"
>present day, pointing out homos are a fucking failure and HoloEN reached their lowest point ever because of them
>"s-shut up go back to your numberfag thread!!!"
get fucked sisters

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>>48569253
Remain in your containment shithole, you are the lowest of the low on an already god-awful board. /#/ is allowed to exist purely to reduce your garbage threads to 1.

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>>48570078
At that time youtube's Indian code monkeys messed with the live viewers statistic and it started showing lower numbers during the stream, but would show the real higher number to the streamer a bit after the stream.

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>>48570253
You're right, nobody gives a shit about the homos /here/. Doesn't stop numbernigger threads being retarded subhuman garbage.

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>>48570253
>cycling boogeymen
The chimp can’t accept that no one likes him outside of his brown thread

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>>48570420
What's the difference between this shit thread and the 30 "Gura doesn't stream" anti threads or drama bait threads that exist in the catalog at any given time?

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>>48570549
This one makes the wholesome bois look bad but those ones are epically dabbing on the WHORES who won’t promote them

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>>48570549
there’s not really. this board is full of retarded dramawhores, tranny kiwifags, and shitskin numberniggers. i will call all of them subhumans

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>>48570644
/#/ spends more time watching streams than you faggot lmao

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>>48570644
Yeah like discussion of relevant metric is the same as the drama between 2 litral whos

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>>48570253
Retard thinks some guys majority of the fanbase doesn't even know about somehow caused EN's decline and not the fact that half the branch doesn't even stream anymore and the only "special" stream in the past 6+ months was a scuffed Easter collab chat stream by Kiara. Turns out people stop watching if you don't fucking stream or do anything beyond the bare minimum when there's much more entertaining streamers out there.

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>>48570702
nah
numbertranny’s run out of people to blame, time to get on the high horse

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>>48570788
>””””””””””””””discussion”””””””””””””

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>>48569253
>EN plummeting before Tempus
>EN plummeting after Tempus
Uhh... sisters? I thought our girls were thriving until the evil homos came along and ruined our hecking wholesome CGDCT?

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>>48570829
>>48570829
>majority of the fanbase doesn't even know about
Prime cope. How could they have missed them? You spent six months shitting up every discussion platform and they spammed collabs with the EN branch. Everyone is aware of them and that’s why many people don’t watch HoloEN any more. The inflection point is clearly placed at the Tempus announcement. Tempus killed Hololive’s growth in the west.

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Stinky brown pagpag thread

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>>48570994
Yes it was declining but tempus definitely accilarated it, that plus the no delevry although they are still the #2 group in vtubing they are still actively reclining completely opposite to jp who is defying all odds and climbing to the moon.

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>>48570994
Here

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>>48571004
You realize that the large majority of viewers don't come to this shithole or even use reddit, right? Also, the graph is literally right there... EN lost an average of 900 viewers post Tempus. The same amount they lost from start of 2021 til Tempus. Meanwhile, they lost 3k average in 2021. What fucking "growth in the west" when they were straight up freefalling for all of 2021?

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didn't read lol isn't there some thread to contain you mentally ill graph-watchers?

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>>48570994
>>48571425
I went and found the chart from the day before their announcement

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>>48571425
Here
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you can show sisters the damage they've done in hard numbers and they'll tell you Tempus was a good choice and no one minded. it's hopeless, they're incapable of understanding graphs or empathizing with others.

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>>48570829
Yes you're right, HoloEN was already having some major issues before Tempiss. Mainly the lack of streams and some novelty events to draw some tourists. People were already asking for EN3 in July last year. Tempiss was just the nail in the coffin, when fans realized that instead of trying to make HoloEN better management was busy trying to turn it into budget NijiEN.
And to this day STILL no fucking EN3.

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>>48571673
The one I posted has a smaller timescale which more accurately show the immediate damage the homos did

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>>48571425
Was there a secret Tempus announcement in July of 2021 too? Why did you just ignore the same exact pattern happened in 2021 and they were just happened to be saved by Council debut hype? Almost as if viewership peaks during middle of summer when all the university students are home and starts declining once they start school again!

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>>48571853 (me)
*shows

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>>48569253
You have an entire general stop shitting up the board

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>>48571890
And now you understand why debuting two batches of homos instead of en3, which holoen desperately need, was a brain dead move. It just left holoen in a continuous decline

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>>48569253
Can this incline of HoloJP be sustained? I keep thinking they have hit their ceiling but they seem to push things further with each passing month. I'm guessing vtubing is becoming more widely known and appreciated by mainstream Japan? Wonder if the next time they have the Olympics in Japan that vtubers will be featured as part of the opening and closing ceremonies.

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>>48571853
The one you posted mostly only shows how much of an impact Gura has on EN's performance. That spike was also inflated by Sana's graduation month. OP's graph gives a better understanding of EN as a whole.

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>>48572713
EN was still declining after Council debut hype ended. Unless someone in EN3 is actually a new Gura/Kobo, all EN3 would do is give a month of boost before the new girls just start siphoning viewers from the existing girls. Have you seen the talents signed by nijien and the small corpos recently? I can't imagine a single one of them making a difference for holoEN. The talent pool for EN vtubers is just trash and your content in general gets really limited when you join Holo.

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>>48570378
Niji, cover, idol, vshojo and all small corpo management visit number thread, to ignore fact and trend are stupid for business and they deserve their fall.

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>>48569253
That free fall from StarsEN is something beautiful to see. But at least they got a few whales so that makes them a better investment than EN3, right?

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>>48573940
looks like that cope is out of date, now sisters think the hololive audience simply didn't notice and there was no opportunity cost.

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>>48573685
Sure EN3 is still a gamble but the alternative right now is to just let EN die. More girls also means less dead hours with a more consistent content output and especially more collabs and events. If you're lucky maybe you can get the next Gura too.
Look at HoloJP, you have 30+ talents competing for the same time slot and yet they are doing better than ever. And I suspect having a strong box of talents with constant events and content variety is a huge help.

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>>48573685
Even another council tier gen would do wonders for holoen. There would be consistent streams even if they weren't crazy productive and collabs would be a lot easier to organize. That would help a lot with keeping tourists interested. I'm also quite sure Hololive has access to a much better talent pool than nijien, especially on the female side

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>>48569253
>GlobalJP+HoloID inclining
>GlobalEN dying

lol at the weird jumps in some dates in a 365 average
This kind of data confirms that EN3 won't save holoEN.

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>>48574234
The only thing this data suggest is a lack of EN3 is hurting the branch
Why do you think ID inclined, they got a good gen

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>>48574234
>This kind of data confirms that EN3 won't save holoEN.
The same chart shows HoloID going from a steady decline to a sustained growth period following the debut of their 3rd gen.

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>>48574023
Oh wow. Yeah, pretty hard to notice them when Cover did their hardest to shove them down in the western audience's throat.

>>48574046
>>48574105
This. If Cover had this mentality because of low numbers back in the day Hololive wouldn't have a lot of it's key members, potentially missing out on Sankisei. And back then the numbers were actually low, being around 10th of their current average at best, so compared to that HoloEN is doing great.

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>>48574296
>>48574363
For EN3 to have the same impact as ID3, you need the conditions that lead to that impact in the EN space.
HoloID is pretty much monopolizing their region and they are all doing multi-lingual content on the same timezone that's inclining globally.
HoloEN is not monopolizing their market, not doing multilingual content, and far from the timezone that's inclining. A debut can make people show up, but they desperately need a Coco/Koyori/Pekora/Kaela kind of workhorse.
I can't believe it's been this long no one is doing morning streams holy shit.

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>>48569277
>2view seethe
dont enter number threads if you cant handle the truth!

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The only ones that care about numbers are unicorns and nijiniggers. It's not a Vtuber discussion.

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>>48575017
You forgot the faggots who keep moving the goalpost to justify 8 dudes in less than 6 months and no EN3.

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>>48574234
EN3 won't help HoloEN for the simple fact that they will just coast (like the current ones) after they get monetized. Council was shilled to be "content creators" by Myth and look at them now. 2 of them are on constant bi weekly breaks, clock's schedules consists of 3-4 days off. Rat still tries though.

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>>48574758
na holoen members are legally not allowed to wake up before 3 pm apparently. Also I agree, ID and EN are not the same. EN has significantly more market saturation from big indies and other corpos. ID3 came into a largely untapped market with them being ID centric instead of EN centric like ID1 and ID2 were. That doesn't exist for EN and as a whole, the EN space is declining even on Twitch.

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>>48569253
Homobeggars aren’t taken this well, finding out they are the absolute lowest form of life.

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>>48575704
>taking

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>>48570994
That was when they announced HomoEN audtitions.

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>>48575444
It would still be a lot better than nothing or just homos

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Holochads we won
Imagine being a bottom feeder HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>48569253
Jesus that tempus drop is always shocking to see.

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Turning scuff into kino

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>>48575881
i hate this chuuni fuck

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>>48569349
Here's a tip /#/idiot. Just ignore bait post. Mutts are scared of number because education sulystem fails them.

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>>48570012
NTA but he said "can save them" not "will save them" and obviously outright ignoring tempiss like something that doesn't even exist is one of the many critera that is require for the potential EN3 to actually save holoEN. I'll mention a few others : actually stream regulary, be interesting, not be irys-tier fucked up by management and the list go on.

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>>48575881
You sure? Seems like no decline at the announcement to me

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>>48579548 (me)
>march 4th
>flatline

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>>48573685
There are already a couple of big names coming for en3.

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>>48570028
But don’t you see when they do a collab on the girls channel they can get 20k ccv of entirely made around tourist. Sure all other numbers dropped in exchange for that 1 stream but it’s definitely worth it

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>>48570994
>male branch announced
Went down
>male branch debutted
It went even further down

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>>48573685
>The talent pool for EN vtubers is just trash
This.

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What actually caused HoloJP to incline hard this year?

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>>48584263
My wild guess is that the EN viewers are doing their reps, and becoming JP fans after understanding at least 5% of what they say.

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>>48570829
>>48571809
Special streams in 2022
>New years, kimonos, first ever council birthdays, Holofes for foreign branches, First ever EN 3D live, April fools, first ever EN offcollab, Gura’s birthday with surprise offcollab Gurame karaoke and surprise 3D, myth offcollab, Mori’s solo live with gura as a guest, Council official smols/Sana graduation, council anniversary, big brain games, myth anniversary, Gura’s actual 3D live halloween/Gura’s first handcam, interbranch among us, and ending with IRyS redesign

Yea there was no amount of special stream. No months where even Gura streamed 22 times in one month. Every event stream in the second half of the year except Irys redesign underperforming compared to events earlier in the year is all in people’s imagination. Yea EN was on the decline from the start 2022.

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>>48584038
>>48573685
There we go with people being disingenuous. There’s only myth then you get 90k debut irys 80-90k debut council leading into the 70k anniversary of myth. They weren’t declining they were returning to average. Notice how Holox being not only the biggest debuts ever but the new 5 largest streams for JP didn’t push them to like a 30k average. It’s because they have enough members that debuts won’t skew the data. Every en member could reach 10k ccv and about 100k views, while some members could break 20k purely on the right solo content. That is now impossible for any member except Gura to break 20k on solo content sans event streams. It’s hard to even break 20k without Gura there for collabs. Tourist streams have significant drop, and 30k is all but impossible unless it’s on Gura’s channel.

I’ve seen multiple unique and interesting talents so far from every corpo. You don’t need a thousand just 5.
>Rin, Peony, Frog cunny, Tiger Okayu, Kilia
>Scarle, Kattarina, Miori, Zaion, Yuko
These are just the most talked about ones there are en vsingers, asmrtist, and other indies that would be good to

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>>48579548
>>48571425

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Somewhat baffling post given rat doesn't even have the most hours or number of streams in Council recently
Of course EN3 will help. By your logic, Myth was never worth debuting in the first place because Gura doesn't stream anymore. Hell, if Council was never debuted HoloEN would be dead because it would just be the Takamori show with Ame cameos.

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>>48587430
Meant for
>>48575444

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>>48585585
Even in JP they have a hard time finding 5.
Some of the ones you mentioned did debut in a big corpo and they still aren't 10k successes with eventual 20k solo streams.
Truth is, there isn't much more in the talent pool, and the EN talent pool is even drier.

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>>48569253
graphics go brrr

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>>48569253
So you’re saying that less than 1/3 of HoloEn fans even watch the homos? And that doesn’t even include Gura boosting the numbers since she hasn’t streamed…….

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>>48584263
I guess it's just that they're consistently offering what hololive is best at, CGDGT content and they're not burdened down by en's incompetent homo shilling management

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>>48587668
Are your forgetting how Gura always had comparatively very low numbers in her streams before Hololive? The brand helps a lot with discoverability because it already has a big audience that will willing watch new debuts to see what's up with them, and while this isn't a guarantee of big numbers as we can see with the low tier members everyone still has a chance to be under the spotlight for thousands of people to watch compared to the smaller agencies like Idol, Phase Connect or Prism who are mostly out of the consciousness for casual vtuber fans. Them being able to grow relatively big compared to the overall popularity of their agencies is a testament of their quality as a content creator and believing they wouldn't be more successful under a bigger agency is a retarded coverdrone/anycolordrone mindset.

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>>48569253
Where is Neo Porte?

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>>48583876
>Before male branch announced
Went down
>male branch announced
Went down
>Male branch debuted
Went down

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>>48594916
>>48571425
Hmm

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>>48586107
>>48579595

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>>48569253
numberfagging should be immediate offtopic ban
alas

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>Another SEAmonkey number thread to seethe about males

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>>48569253
>stars en
kek thats a cliff

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>>48596855
But muh whales!