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/vsj+/ - VShojo+ General Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:37:17 No.48212936 [Reply] [Original]

______ ___ ___________ Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo, and any Vtubers frequently associated with them.
Keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

VShojo is:
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

VShojoJP is:
Kson
https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
https://www.youtube.com/c/ksonONAIR
Nazuna
https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna

Related:
総長 + 会長 for dedicated Kson discussion
/るみな/ for dedicated Nazuna discussion
>>>/vt//lig/ for more focused + and ++ discussion

Previous Thread: >>48204373

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:38:28 No.48212965 File: 1.63 MB, 854x480, 1661896071572782.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48212936 WHAT EDITION IS THIS I NEED TO KNOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:38:51 No.48212981 Praying for Vshojo downfall

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:39:32 No.48212996 File: 723 KB, 220x286, 1633634162676.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:40:35 No.48213016 >>48212965 Not my boyfriend edition

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:41:13 No.48213031 It's been over a day. Time for the liggers to permanently relocate.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:41:23 No.48213035 >>48212981 >Two of the worst Vshojo members left >Downfall Everything will go uphill once they debut new gens. You gonna trust the plan.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:41:37 No.48213043 File: 398 KB, 1434x2048, FuZO0ckaYAIDjcc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God I wish I had new fanart to share but today was fucking nothing all day. At least I got a couple of #DressUpMel's to share.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:41:58 No.48213048 >>48213035 who's the worst one now? hime?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:42:14 No.48213058 Praying for VShojo's Uprise >>48212936 Kek good one

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:42:38 No.48213072 >new gens FUCK OFF BACK TO THE CATALOG ALREADY JESUS CHRIST

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:43:08 No.48213081 >>48212936 Dubs and Nyanners dies of cancer like her faggot father.

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>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:45:29 No.48213144 Can we go back to being a dead general? Reading 6 threads a day is a pain. Especially when I need to read another 4 when I wake up everytime

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:45:49 No.48213156 File: 692 KB, 2500x3000, 1665868576923984.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213110

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:45:55 No.48213158 >>48213081 Ha get fucked retard

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:46:10 No.48213166 >>48213144 you don't need to read them all, anon

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:47:07 No.48213187 >>48213144 Just close your eyes nigga

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:47:58 No.48213208 >>48213144 Why did you read all six? If you read one you read all of them. It's just the same tired shit over and over.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:48:20 No.48213219 >>48213144 Why do you want to read the current absolute garbage we're going through

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:48:21 No.48213220 >>48213144 >reading multiple threads of the same bullshit "drama" Anon come on, like the other anon said you don't have to read them all

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:48:36 No.48213226 File: 134 KB, 1079x963, 1682524964747500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ok, but can we have a Metro stream now?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:48:52 No.48213231 File: 322 KB, 341x192, 1659030683054133.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:48:58 No.48213234 Praying for Zentreya cock reveal

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:49:51 No.48213256 >>48212996 Off topic

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:50:00 No.48213260 File: 1.12 MB, 4096x2277, FumKFDEXsAAa8Eh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:52:00 No.48213299 File: 344 KB, 272x394, 1659030779126726.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213231

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>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:52:31 No.48213312 Can't look at VShojo the same way now that it's been revealed it's rife with exploitative contracts, drama, favoritism, bullying and cliques. I thought it was just a small friend circle who hired a few personal maagers

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:52:47 No.48213318 File: 8 KB, 235x69, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213226 PauseChamp?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:53:13 No.48213327 Can't look at anon the same way now that it's been revealed he's a faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:53:17 No.48213328 File: 990 KB, 998x564, 1661820516299581.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:53:35 No.48213336 Anyone got the link to silver's deleted vod?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:53:52 No.48213340 >>48213328 Aethel...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:54:21 No.48213356 >>48213072 Yeah for jp it's gen

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:54:22 No.48213357 >>48213336 >she deleted the VoD lmao, what a pussy

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:54:26 No.48213359 >>48213328 damn ntr cat. aethel doesn't deserve this

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:55:00 No.48213370 >>48213328 I'm now a gyaru cat simp

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:55:22 No.48213375 >>48213299 Faster!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:55:24 No.48213377 >>48213328 She's cheating on him with me btw

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:55:36 No.48213384 >>48213336 the one where she shit on her "friends"?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:55:45 No.48213387 >>48213327 Includes you. Faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:55:53 No.48213394 File: 328 KB, 272x394, 1659030918532374.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213375 aaaaaaaaaaa

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:56:05 No.48213396 File: 187 KB, 1000x1300, FuX1e_naEAE_uqV.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] we have to fix her

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:56:19 No.48213400 >>48213394 FASTER!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:56:33 No.48213403 File: 1.14 MB, 498x498, 1635488713716.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213256

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:56:49 No.48213409 File: 2.90 MB, 640x358, vegeta-under-the-rain.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1651413097335386113 It was not meant to be like this. You can't just make me feel bad and cry.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:57:20 No.48213428 >>48213403 Kys

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:58:37 No.48213463 File: 947 KB, 1536x2048, 1680493781504537.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213409 Even worse when you consider there's no way Silver thinks of her as a friend.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:58:58 No.48213471 >>48213357 I agree. Why say all that shit and then go and delete it? Either say it and own it or shut up and say nothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 07:59:57 No.48213491 >>48213318 Omg sisters she's /here/ and read that post!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:00:07 No.48213496 >>48213409 nazuna...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:03:03 No.48213565 File: 1.24 MB, 1020x872, 1669594040701733.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213491 Or at the end of the last stream she said I'll be back tomorrow for late night metro

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:03:05 No.48213569 File: 2.72 MB, 800x720, 1652406681951.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:03:15 No.48213574 Has Froot played S.T.A.L.K.E.R on stream? I think she would like it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:03:15 No.48213573 >>48213471 Silver actually thought people would take her side just like with the harry potter situation but the opposite happened just because she chose to fight a latina kek

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:04:25 No.48213601 >>48213409 Why Silver treating everyone like a stepping stone?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:04:26 No.48213603 File: 987 KB, 854x480, 1656615579294.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213569 Sexo

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:05:11 No.48213613 File: 277 KB, 394x330, wink.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213603

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:05:27 No.48213619 >>48213601 she learned it from Vei

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:06:08 No.48213632 >>48213471 Maybe she realized that giving a press conference while emotional was not a good idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:06:18 No.48213637 File: 22 KB, 112x112, ironmouseHUGSILVER.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How to Fix Silver and Mousey's Relationship

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:06:55 No.48213651 >>48213565 >I'll be back tomorrow for late night metro give me source, RIGHT NOW

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:07:43 No.48213668 File: 3.74 MB, 466x378, 1652580044364.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213613

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:07:55 No.48213672 >>48213574 don't think so, no but she did say she would be interested in playing it back during the subathon

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:09:18 No.48213701 File: 1.21 MB, 750x824, 1681224518966388.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Love this wolf

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:09:57 No.48213717 >>48213701 Off topic

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:10:24 No.48213730 >>48213717 go easy on them, /lig/ didn't want to house them as well

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:10:42 No.48213739 I can't believe the Snuffy veto was real.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:10:45 No.48213741 >>48213409 https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1651468098539606016 Imagine what we could have had and what we lost..

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:11:26 No.48213753 >>48213409 >What is a friend? Is it someone who doesn't talk to you for seven months? This lady doesn't even speak English yet she calls Silver her friend.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:11:32 No.48213757 >>48213741 she's never gonna bother interacting with Nazuna after this tweet

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:12:30 No.48213771 >>48213701 This model sucks

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:13:00 No.48213780 >>48213753 the last time she talked with Silver was the Apex collab like 5 months ago

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:13:33 No.48213795 File: 1023 KB, 463x453, 1671260532694095.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213409 Silver complained about JP having more staff. She resents Kson and Nazuna.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:13:59 No.48213804 >>48213780 Is that within the friend threshold

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:14:37 No.48213818 >>48213780 it's only 2 months away from 7 months, so it's possible

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:15:02 No.48213824 >>48213780 Silver said streams don't count.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:15:16 No.48213828

>>48213573
>just because she chose to fight a latina
A very disabled latina with a much more youthful voice and a much larger audience. She had the deck stacked against her from the start and any negative comment was going to be seen as attacking a crippled little hispanic girl beloved by the entire community.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:15:38 No.48213839 >>48213818 ah, meant to reply to >>48213804

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:16:15 No.48213850 >>48213637 How do you fix something that was never there?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:16:47 No.48213859 >>48213780 >>48213818 Silver was talking about offstream interactions. You have no idea whether or not they did offstream.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:17:04 No.48213864 How does Kson's audition work again? I know first place makes it to the game but the other finalists get something too, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:17:17 No.48213870 >>48213850 It was certainly there at the beginning

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:17:36 No.48213872 >>48213701 Who?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:17:55 No.48213880 >>48213859 I very much doubt they did, Nazuna is an asocial hikki herself, not to mention Silver knows jackshit Japanese

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:18:45 No.48213898 >>48213859 No idea if someone that can't speak English was messaging someone that can't speak Japanese? It's not hard to figure out.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:19:28 No.48213907 >>48213898 this, she pretty much only talks with Kson inside of Vshojo

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:19:35 No.48213910 this company is imploding

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:21:25 No.48213950 this company is upgrading

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:21:27 No.48213953 >>48213859 I dunno man, Naz's english skills seem a little too weak to hold a conversation with Silver. I don't think they've spoken off stream. Maybe chatted over discord a little.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:22:07 No.48213965 File: 1.16 MB, 849x1168, 1667176423987836.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this company is backpacking

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:22:40 No.48213974 >>48213953 at most Silver left Nazuna so COZY WHOLESOME messages like Bunny did to Silver, with NAzuna either not replying or sending a short message like "THENK U!!!!"

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:22:54 No.48213978 >>48213651 Last stream uhh... At the end?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:22:59 No.48213980 File: 91 KB, 800x450, 592939.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48212936 >VShojo is: >Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners >Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:24:24 No.48214003 >>48213409 >>48213741 companionship

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:24:33 No.48214010 >>48213312 >exploitative contracts Wat

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:25:54 No.48214042 >>48214010 just Vei not earnign a smuch under a Vshojo contract, I guess

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:26:00 No.48214044 >>48214010 His source is that one tweet of Vei recommending Indies to get a lawyer like a it's a gotcha or something. It's literally just good advice.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:26:00 No.48214043 pink cat will leave vshojo and there’s nothing you can do about it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:26:15 No.48214047 >>48214010 silver made it clear that vsj contracts are not exactly friendly to the streamer. She wouldn't give a big warning about reading contracts if she didn't think otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:26:38 No.48214057 >>48213880 >>48213898 >>48213953 Machine translation isn't that bad. I don't see the language barrier stopping them from chatting with each other.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:27:25 No.48214072 Not like this is really important but do the girls all get different contracts? Given how part of VShojo's revenue is from merch, I wonder if Vei got a worse contract because she was one of the worst for selling merch of

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:27:34 No.48214077 File: 2.09 MB, 498x277, did-we-just-lose-star-lord.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213965 I wonder what them leaving means for the lore? Does melware win in this timeline?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:28:05 No.48214084 pink cat has signed a new deal with vshojo and there’s nothing you can do about it

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:28:07 No.48214085

>>48213864
first place gets to be a character in yakuza 8, they didn't elaborate on the scope of this but probably someone in a substory and not the main plot
the other winners and first place (not all the finalists) get to be hostesses in the cabaret club in yakuza 7 gaiden

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:28:50 No.48214095 >>48214077 Silver's role was always vague as fuck due to her goddess model taking forever to come out and Vei wanted out of the lore before for quite a while. They'll probably get removed and Haruka will remain as the nature goddess.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:29:01 No.48214099

>>48214047
>silver made it clear that vsj contracts are not exactly friendly to the streamer.
So every other member aside from Vei disagrees with Silver then because they all decided to renew them?
Did you not really think this logic through you retard?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:30:26 No.48214131 >>48214084 Until that blue check appears on her twitter account, I still think there is a chance pink cat is gone.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:31:13 No.48214148 >>48214131 Silver got it and then left, I don't know why people are so obsessed with that shit. It means nothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:31:29 No.48214150 >>48214131 buddy, if she didn't renew her contract, she's be out at the same time as Vei and Silver

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:31:31 No.48214153 File: 464 KB, 797x607, 1672194901196335.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214131 >forcing Nyan to get a Musk mark Pretty cruel

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:31:40 No.48214155 >>48214072 They wouldn't do this unless they REALLY want to get shit on for clear company favoritism

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:31:51 No.48214158 >>48214131 She barely uses twitter. Why do you care so much about that site?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:32:45 No.48214177 >>48214072 Idk if they do but it would obviously makes sense if people like mouse, nyan, and zen get better contracts than vei. Despite her viewcount she sold so little plushies kek

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:33:16 No.48214194

>>48214099
If it was them Vei and Silver would've signed them
>others
None of the girls have any baseline on how comtracts in the industry look
Vei has soda with 10 years of experience and he clearly told her she's getting shafted by vshojo
How about you think for a second instead of sucking corpo dick you retard

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:34:19 No.48214218 >>48214177 Reminded of the Ukraine fundraiser too where her community didn't raise almost any money. Obviously it's not merch, but it shows her communities lack of disposable income.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:34:38 No.48214230 >>48214194 >Sucks sodas dick Cool post bro

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:34:39 No.48214231 >>48214131 If Nyan and/or Zen didn't renew their contracts, why wasn't it mentioned in the same announcement as Silver and Vei?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:34:47 No.48214234 Still praying for Vshojo downfall

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:34:50 No.48214235 >>48214043 Why would I try to stop her?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:35:01 No.48214238 >>48214155 This isn't favoritism lmao it's just business. You preserve your more valuable assets Like for example it would make a lot of sense if Cover gave more favorable terms to Gura vs say Ame in their contract renewals

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:35:31 No.48214246 >>48214230 >ignores the argunent because he got btfo Thanks for saying Im right

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:36:06 No.48214256 >>48214150 She doesn't need to announce at the same time tho

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:36:25 No.48214264 >>48214246 Soda joined a fucking corpro that's riddled with sexual scandals, he's no genius when it comes to companies or contracts.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:36:32 No.48214266 >>48214043 I hope she does. The second Nyan leaves I'm heading straight to /lig/ and never looking back at this thread.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:36:34 No.48214267

>>48214231
Silver and Vei were friends. Zen and Nyan and nazuna would be more random, + 4 of the 11 leaving at the same time, would look worse.

Still dont think Zen is leaving, she was just contemplating based on other members leaving, nyan with all the red flags its a maybe

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:37:26 No.48214284 >>48214256 both Vei and Silver terminated theri contrats independently and still had to announce on the same day

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:37:37 No.48214287 >>48214246 That was my first post. You just seemed like a cocksucker.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:37:51 No.48214295

>>48214072
They probably get the same contract but that also means that someone like Mouse or Mel who clearly use vshojo's resources get the same deal as someone like Vei who just streams and doesn't have any kind of project going on.
If that's the case then I can see why Vei would want out. Whatever cut they take from the girls' earnings is compensated by the support vshojo offers but if you don't need/use vshojo's support, what's the point of giving them money? Not to mention Vei already has an entire streamer support network via Soda anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:38:02 No.48214300 >>48214264 He's also a gambling addict lul.

adrians_reality !!i7RKlsm7o0Z Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:38:08 No.48214302

>>48212981
amen

the fate is assured, it's a matter of time now. there's some elements in play right now which i don't want to mention, lest they see it and use the information to save themselves. but the death of this clique is 100%.

vshojo's place is history is to demonstrate that you can't be rascals and hope to succeed.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:38:28 No.48214305 >>48214266 they didn't accept Veifags nor Silverfags, what makes you think they'll accept you?

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:38:43 No.48214313

>>48214194
>soda with 10 years of experience
Apparently that experience wasn't enough to stop him from joining an org that was exposed for having a rapist, a guy accused of covering up sexual assault, and a massive racist within a year of him joining kek

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:39:00 No.48214317 >>48214266 You can always make /nyan/ and fuck off there if you hate being here so much, fag

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:40:00 No.48214334 >>48214305 They don't accept shondofags either but that didn't stop them

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:40:30 No.48214343 >>48214256 She doesn't but having another member leave shortly after announcing this would make vshojo look like shit. It would be better for them to announce it all at once.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:40:41 No.48214346 >>48214264 Are you retarded? He's not the one that look at the contracts his just sign them, and considering that his beign extremely successful for over 15 years I would say that he has someone that understand this shit working under him.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:41:06 No.48214359 >>48214317 >taking this personally rumao

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:41:37 No.48214374 File: 780 KB, 696x692, 1651274088602.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] vei is fucking crazy such a woman

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:41:38 No.48214375 >>48214313 Nta but how are those things related to him knowing what good contact looks like? Otk fags being sexpests is one thing but knowing when you're getting fucked over your cut of money is another

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:42:17 No.48214388 >>48214343 You're not wrong, but VShojo is pretty incompetent.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:42:18 No.48214390

>>48214346
>He's not the one that look at the contracts his just sign them
so then he's just a retard and not a contract expert like that anon said he is
>and considering that his beign extremely successful for over 15 years I would say that he has someone that understand this shit working under him.
once again, the key to success in streaming is luck, Soda was one of the first streamers on Justin.tv, he started at just the right time

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:42:51 No.48214397
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>>48214077
Silver was relative irrelevant to the lore. She only had a minor role in fighting against Nyanners corruption and then went into isolation again. Most of her story is self-contained.

Vei is a bit more awkward since she was a pretty big deal in Vshojo mythos and got her power back in her lore video.
So it would be a bit strange if she just disappeared without explanation.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:43:10 No.48214402 >>48214359 Mousefags are very insecure pls understand they think that Mouse = vshojo so anything negative about this thread or vshojo itself they think it's attack on Mouse

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:43:13 No.48214405 I don't really care about this contract shit but I find it funny how some anons here think Vei is trying to make high IQ business decisions for her career when she still has not streamed in nearly a month lol

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:43:20 No.48214406 >>48214359 >nooo just tolerate me being a whining faggot Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:44:04 No.48214419 >>48214402 no one mentioned Mouse once in that entire convo besides you just now take your meds

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:44:13 No.48214423 >>48214095 The lore SHE roped everyone into, don't forget.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:44:22 No.48214426 I cannot imagine having the patience to deal with Vei's antics, but I guess the pussy grip and head she gives are just THAT good

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:44:37 No.48214432 File: 513 KB, 700x872, Fui_rWNWAAAcL5l.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ...Anonymous 04/27/23(Thu)14:34:11 No.48210767 When will Silver and Vei rejoin Vshojo like Steven Jobs returned to Apple?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:44:55 No.48214440 >>48214313 How are those things related to him at all? This is fucking twitter brainrot logic, you are better than that anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:45:32 No.48214453 It's pretty sad that Nyan is probably only staying on this contract because she's scared Mouse will fucking die if she leaves.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:45:37 No.48214455 >>48214238 All that does is disincentivize the person with the worse contract from working any harder than their peers. Nice way to get your workers to hate you.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:45:38 No.48214456 >>48214405 Yeah lol. She just earns way more money being around Soda and in Mythic than she does being in Vshojo, if that's considered business smarts nowadays then no wonder we're entering a recession.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:45:41 No.48214458 >>48214375 Vei - Have a lawyer look things over Retard - Soda's a lawyer!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:45:42 No.48214460 Guys, Vei needs to pay 7.5k a month + family bills back home. She wants more money, it's not complicated.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:46:55 No.48214477 >>48214405 Vei obviously wants 95% of the $0 she makes, instead of 90% anon >>48214455 Or you work harder until you earn a better contract? There's no free lunch in this world

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:47:01 No.48214478 >>48214460 maybe the bitch should stream if she wants cash

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:47:14 No.48214481 Well, it's confirmed. Vei and Soda's mod Vulpes just said that all those Vei body tracking dance videos are actually Pendrive himself doing the moves

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:47:47 No.48214494 >>48214426 probably, soda has the patience of a saint with vei

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:47:56 No.48214500 >>48214481 That's not how mmd works

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:48:03 No.48214503 >>48214456 She doesn't earn shit, she just leeches off her bf. Who do you think is paying her and what for?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:48:05 No.48214505 >>48214456 >She just earns way more money being around Soda and in Mythic than she does being in Vshojo Any sources to back up this claim?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:48:05 No.48214504 >>48214419 they are jealous mouse seethers that can't help but feel attacked by her success

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:48:38 No.48214514 >>48214481 Not how it works but the idea of people jacking off to Pendrive using a Vei skinsuit is too funny so I'll pretend it's true.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:48:51 No.48214519 >>48214505 her saying she's leaving for financial reasons

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:48:54 No.48214520 >>48214481 I think you're retarded if you didn't understand the sarcasm

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:48:54 No.48214521 File: 222 KB, 1080x1611, froot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214481 Hot. He's a total sister so I bet he's pretty twinky.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:49:12 No.48214530 File: 26 KB, 112x112, MAAAAN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.twitch.tv/sodapoppin/v/1804464254?sr=a&t=35461s IT WAS PENDRIVER ALL ALONG HOW DOES IT FEEL JACKING OFF TO A DUDE, VEIFAGS

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:49:13 No.48214532 File: 51 KB, 170x167, dank.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214460 She should go live them

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:49:22 No.48214536 >>48214519 Clueless.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:49:43 No.48214542 >>48214456 vei would actually have to stream if she wants to make money from mythic you retard lol

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:49:49 No.48214543 >>48214481 Do you not understand joking/sarcasm

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:49:55 No.48214546 >>48214530 >>48214520

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:50:12 No.48214550 >>48214458 Nothing stoping Soda from being present and saying Vei is getting fucked when he saw her contact No idea why you're so angry about it, you wrote those contracts or something? You're getting defensive about it for sone reason

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:50:23 No.48214557 >>48214460 I think she just didn't see any reason to rely on vshojo anymore (so basically their cut was wasted money) but she doesn't strike me as desperate to make more money.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:50:45 No.48214563 Is merryweather really going to kill off the 2 as canon? based

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:50:51 No.48214564 File: 106 KB, 1280x720, 1681726677307159.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214530 where do you think you are?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:51:00 No.48214568 >>48214550 You seem retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:51:00 No.48214567 Zen is a guy right?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:51:19 No.48214580 >>48213409 >Silver: sHe DiDn'T rEaCh OuT tO mE fOr 7 mOnThS!!! >Nazuna: you are my friend. I love you, Silver&Vei! please be happy.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:51:52 No.48214595 >>48214563 He will probably say they fucked off somewhere and call it a day. No need to kill them.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:52:06 No.48214602 >>48214530 More hilarious when the Parasocial Julian making love vids that uses footage of the 3d model when it's just Pen wearing a vei skin

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:52:11 No.48214603 >>48214580 Yes we know Silver is a petty bitch. No need to say it for the 1000th time.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:52:15 No.48214606 >>48214563 They'll die in a final battle against Nyan, killing each other, during her leaving vshojo lore video

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:53:17 No.48214625 >>48214568 >No arguments only insults Imagine getting angry over Vei not wanting to get fucked by shitty contract lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:53:36 No.48214633 >>48214580 mousefags is going to keep repeating this shit for the next 3 months

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:53:58 No.48214639 File: 1.21 MB, 877x948, 1673244426956.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214494

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:54:21 No.48214647 I know Vei is /lig/ now but can I still complain about Pen in this thread too? For old times' sake I fucking hate that faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:54:51 No.48214661 >>48214647 Fernando moved to /lig/ already, so you have to as well

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:55:04 No.48214665 >>48214580 Stop falling for Silver's forced drama. It's so fucking obvious and you retards can't see it?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:55:24 No.48214673 File: 536 KB, 699x699, 1654044445928.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214647 Good thing all those veifags already left, amirite?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:55:27 No.48214676 >>48214647 Did you accidentally jerked off to him?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:55:44 No.48214684 >>48214625 Imagine thinking soda is capable of understanding a contract lmao The absolute state of sodafaggots

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:56:03 No.48214691 >>48214661 Will /lig/ inherit hexerposting as well? I think the anniversary of his ban is coming up

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:56:19 No.48214698 File: 2.00 MB, 2252x4000, 1639809092833.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214530 >man body I can jerk off to this

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:57:00 No.48214711 >>48214661 He is here too. None of the cancerous faggots each girl has tied to them are ever going to leave this place, they are too retarded for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:57:01 No.48214712 File: 14 KB, 112x112, ESLTARD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214676

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:57:04 No.48214714 >no stream org

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:57:06 No.48214716 >>48214676 No I just think he's a cunt

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:57:13 No.48214721 File: 256 KB, 446x378, 1680649609600577.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214665 It being forced would only make me angrier. Why can't you understand that?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:57:16 No.48214724 >>48214661 That's the plan, lure him over there so we can be Fernando-free here EZ

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:57:41 No.48214738 >>48214684 Again Imagine getting angry over Vei realising with the help of lawyer and Soda that her vshojo contract is shit lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:57:46 No.48214740 >>48214698 At least the masks for these things have gotten better over the years. I remember how horrifying they were years ago

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:57:57 No.48214744 File: 28 KB, 149x92, 1680390648174873.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214673 yeye

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:58:17 No.48214751 Pen is such a faggot for feeding false info to Vei about us. He controls her.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:58:18 No.48214754 >>48214698 Fuck the PC cases, Gunrun, we need these costumes

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:58:22 No.48214759 >>48214716 Understandable, have a nice day.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:58:47 No.48214767 File: 174 KB, 374x492, 1633654218835.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214698 Holy Based. I didn't expect someone else to be into kigurumi here.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:59:02 No.48214775 >>48214738 He's not gonna fuck you bro, he's dumb as shit anyway, aim higher.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:59:16 No.48214786 >>48214738 Is there any more proof needed to conclude that vshojo is a black company?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:59:17 No.48214787 File: 706 KB, 1080x1080, 1680176552944762.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214673

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:59:31 No.48214793 >>48214738 I think you are getting baited anon, nobody is that retarded...right?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:59:43 No.48214797 >>48214691 It's this Saturday if you want when, curious if he'll say something or not

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 08:59:50 No.48214802 >>48214775 Please keep going, Im laughing at your meltdown

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:00:52 No.48214828 >>48214802 So you concede the point that he's fucking retarded? I'm happy you finally saw the light.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:00:57 No.48214831 >Vei: Do you not care about the EU people in your chat? >Soda: No, I absolutely do not care about these people! Based honestly fuck those savages

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:01:33 No.48214847 Which Vshojo girl will be the first to collab with Silver and Vei after contract renewal?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:02:01 No.48214854 >>48214847 Nyan

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:02:15 No.48214857 >>48214847 Vei - Nyan Silver - uhhhhh

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:02:17 No.48214858 >>48214847 Nyan

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:02:28 No.48214861 We won't truly be free of Vei in this thread until we sever ever connection to her Which is why Nyan has to go, sorry pink cat bros

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:02:31 No.48214864 >>48214847 Nyan. They're literally planning another collab with the boyfriends

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:02:33 No.48214866 >>48214751 He lies about everything, about hexer, about us, about her fanbase, Vei foolishly believes his crap

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:02:49 No.48214872 >>48214857 Silver is probably still likely Nyan, but that's still slim.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:03:08 No.48214881 >>48214567 No, she did a few streams without TTS back in the day and it was very clearly a woman speaking.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:03:22 No.48214887 File: 1.06 MB, 654x1440, 1678203586283198.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214847 >Silver >collab I loves that menhera wolf but her brainworms wont allow her to reach out to others

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:03:30 No.48214891 >>48214872 When did they last collab?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:03:50 No.48214899 >>48214847 Nyan since literally the only other chuuba Vei collabs with sometimes is one who is also madly in love with their boyfriend kek

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:04:40 No.48214919 >>48214828 If tectone could look at a few contracts and see that they were getting fucked by corpo bs, I think soda is capable of doing the same. He can look at her ccv and the money and say "Yeah, this is bad"

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:04:59 No.48214928 >>48214847 >Vei Nyan >Silver Zen after many many months.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:05:07 No.48214931 File: 1.12 MB, 750x1300, 1680480021977687.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214847 Not a VShojo but Asmon will collab soon with his girl

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:05:40 No.48214943 >>48214872 Probably either Nyan or Zen since they were basically the only ones who ever really acknowledged Silver somewhat often during the last year lol

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:05:43 No.48214945 >>48214919 What would her ccv have to do with it? It's merch and sponsors. If you sell no merch and accept no sponsors what do you expect?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:05:57 No.48214953 >>48214899 I'm just happy to see them together again. Vei and Nyan had the best collabs. Snuffy needs a bf so I can see vei and Snuffy together again too. I wish I was just shitposting

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:07:33 No.48214998 >>48214953 Same Nyan and Vei are hilarious together. I just find it funny how it's because they found common ground in having streamer boyfriends kek

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:07:51 No.48215008 how come all of them responded to vei on twitter but not a single vshojo responded to silver

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:08:04 No.48215013 >>48214945 Her ccv is necessary for sponsors. Sponsors usually pay X amount of viewer per hour and will use her ccv as a baseline.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:08:24 No.48215019 >>48215008 You know why

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:08:40 No.48215029 >>48215008 She burned the bridges, anon. It's completely decimated.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:09:18 No.48215040 >>48215008 how come vei liked every single reply but skiped mouse

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:09:45 No.48215050 >>48215008 Vei replied first, QRT'd the announcement and included Silver on it so people used it for both. Silver posted a fanart that was pretty much the same thing 5 hours later.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:10:35 No.48215063 Just realised Snuffy streamed. Did she say anything?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:10:36 No.48215065 >>48215040 Well I guess we can predict that Vei's first collab with a VShojo after leaving is not gonna be with Mouse kek

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:10:57 No.48215075 >>48215008 Mouse told them she will tell gunrun to their contracts if they show support to Silver

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:11:13 No.48215079 File: 94 KB, 1440x800, 20230424_013411.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214721 See this? This hobby attracts way too much sensitive white boys.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:12:02 No.48215097 >>48215008 silver is a bitch and now every is allowed to hate her

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:12:12 No.48215104 >>48215040 Mouse replied to the wrong tweet lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:12:12 No.48215103 >>48215008 Kson lost her real weeb status and won't get it back until she responds to silver.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:12:43 No.48215114

>>48214864
>They're literally planning another collab with the boyfriends
Yeah I think it was gonna be last Friday but it got delayed. Probably because of you know the recent news.
And probably because Vei still hasn't fucking done her redebut yet that lazy bitch

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:13:08 No.48215122 >>48215013 And she refuses to do them, resulting in vshojo making a loss on her.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:13:19 No.48215128 >>48215114 She is not going to use her model or stream it so the debut doesn't matter

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:13:31 No.48215133 File: 956 KB, 500x418, 1677960793997532.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] y'know after the last few days I actually don't mind the veisodafags, at least they feel somewhat "normal" all things considered I still will not watch vei

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:13:45 No.48215143 File: 1.76 MB, 498x359, 1679704915658141.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i wonder what role hime had to play in all of this

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:14:42 No.48215156 >>48215075 You miss a word or 2 somewhere?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:15:07 No.48215164 >>48215143 She told Gunrun to increase everyone's cuts

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:15:28 No.48215174 >>48215122 Or maybe they are bad at it? She did 1 sponsor every few days under Mythic with 0 problems.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:16:22 No.48215196 >>48215133 i'm watching soda's stream and literally vei is holding soda hostage, she won't let him end the stream

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:16:53 No.48215203 File: 170 KB, 1534x1355, 1644458945369.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215079 keep talking down to me

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:17:12 No.48215213 >>48214047 Wtf does this have to do with "exploitative contracts". Sounds like they just couldn't be assed to read the piece of paper

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:17:23 No.48215216 >>48215133 >I still will not watch vei Neither are Vei fans currently but not by their own choice kek

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:17:52 No.48215224 File: 2.61 MB, 2000x3000, 1758469_ultracoolboy_iron-mouse-and-silvervale.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48214847 When will Mousey collab with Silver ?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:18:21 No.48215242 >>48215196 Ahh the old fuckboy filibuster. Works every time.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:19:31 No.48215269 Got to go to work, but I'm still praying for Vshojo downfall tho

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:19:32 No.48215270 >>48215128 That's true unless she's doing a bunch of last minute things for it, which would be an actual explanation for why she hasn't streamed yet

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:19:36 No.48215273 >>48215224 Uh sorry bro, they are having some schedule/timezone/internet/computer/IRL/spiritual/communicative/emotional/logistical issues so not yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:19:54 No.48215280 >>48215174 On her channel? Which ones? It's been so long...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:20:29 No.48215294 File: 360 KB, 554x436, 1632188649102.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215203 Give me your money or the pink cat gets it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:20:34 No.48215297 silvervale was the tonya harding of vshojo she could never stand living in ironmouse's shadow

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:20:40 No.48215301 File: 808 KB, 800x848, 1680462564454317.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215224

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:20:43 No.48215304 File: 619 KB, 744x689, mousey ogey.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What does Mousey have to do for Silver to forgive her?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:20:54 No.48215312 >>48215270 Someone shared a screenshoot of her saying it will be semi-ready on the 10th and she will stream with it (then it will get some last minutes fixes on the 15th). Doubt they are delaying that collab for half a month.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:21:33 No.48215327

>>48214390
>pure luck
that is absolute dogshit take
he was already big when he moved because he was a top player at a back then top game
that dude has two talents: wow and content creation. hes not putting any effort now because hes basically retired, but back then nobody did it like reckful and soda

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:21:39 No.48215328 >>48215174 The reality is that Mythic probably provided a better cut for her sponsors. Ain't no way people are willingly taking clash of clans and poker sponsors unless the money is big.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:21:55 No.48215335 >>48215304 Kill Connor and lose at least half her viewers

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:22:17 No.48215343 >>48215297 >silvervale was the tonya harding of vshojo >vei was the amber heard of vshojo Good thing they're gone

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:23:16 No.48215362 >>48215343 uh oh Soda better check his bed

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:23:17 No.48215363 Silver needed a good dicking and the rest of Vshojo should have realized that and hooked her up.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:23:23 No.48215369 >>48213144 When I came back the day it happened, I had 2000 unread posts, I just didn't read them

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:23:24 No.48215370 >>48215327 >Soda good at wow, when he talked about win trading constantly in pvp and didn't wf content Holy shit I can't even

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:23:28 No.48215371 >>48215327 /tabs/ /boards/ /sites/ you are in the wrong place

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:24:23 No.48215390 >>48215269 did vshojo rape your mother?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:24:25 No.48215392 File: 338 KB, 629x629, goro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215343 Still got the Hitler of VShojo

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:24:37 No.48215396 File: 1.29 MB, 1080x1080, 1678230640070749.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215369 But what if I miss a new vei

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:24:45 No.48215401 >>48213409 >post about nazuna >uses vegeta for picrel I am laughing and only 5ch could understand why

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:24:50 No.48215406

>>48215312
>Doubt they are delaying that collab for half a month.
You underestimate Vei's laziness
>>48215328
>Ain't no way people are willingly taking clash of clans and poker sponsors unless the money is big.
Our god that's the type of sponsors they need to do? And I thought Mouse's sponsors have been dreadful to watch lol

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:25:10 No.48215412 >>48215396 Meds

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:25:31 No.48215424 >>48215396 Offtopic

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:25:54 No.48215434 >>48215406 the first Overwatch couple collab was supposed to happen months ago, they have no problem with stalling things

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:26:03 No.48215440 File: 61 KB, 1080x1080, 1680279426476058.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215396 Someone needs to make a collection of these Veis in a Mega or something soon

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:26:54 No.48215462 >>48215440 Make a booru but only for Veis

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:27:09 No.48215469 >>48215434 >Overwatch couple collab I am ok with them stalling this one

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:27:31 No.48215483 >>48215369 I want to add that this was in like 3.5 hours

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:27:45 No.48215490 File: 91 KB, 1080x1080, 1641590419891.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215440 I think I have them all atm, but I'm lazy

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:28:35 No.48215514 >>48215328 Isn't that just Fillian who is currently on a business arc because she has some project she wants to fund?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:29:12 No.48215527 >>48213409 Oh my what a sweet and gentle person

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:29:32 No.48215532 File: 315 KB, 461x455, image_2023-04-27_172912788.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215203 Punch your stomach

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:30:11 No.48215549

>>48214194
This is my theory.

One of the things that VShojo and the girls touted early on was that the agency wouldn't take a dime of their subs or bits or donos, so all on steam revenue belonged to the girls alone. However, VShojo instead would take a cut of things they helped produce, namely merch and sponsors. Something all bigger steamers talk about is that they make most of their money on merch and sponsors. We've talked here before about how the big Twitch streamers whining about the subs change was stupid because they don't make shit off that relative to other sources and streamers confirmed this during the "leak" about payouts, some making damn sure they make WAY more than that to flex their wallet penises for the ignorant masses.

Fast forward to today. We have talked about how Vei has few subs, gets almost no bits, and doesn't really farm for donos either. While she does have a tts pay system, she doesn't get a lot of use of it dumpster l compared to others. Thus, it makes perfect sense that Vei, with her size, and her known lazy ass nature, wants to use merch and sponsors as her primary revenue generation method. Therefore, she wanted a bigger cut of that, VShojo said no, and she leaves so she can milk all the merch and sponsor money for herself.

This is also probably why Silver left but she had a few other personal issues as well.

The thing is, neither Vei nor Silver heavily farm their pay pigs. Silver does get shit thrown at her and certainly does it more than Vei, but unless she's throwing a pity party, she doesn't get showered with donations.

Compare with Mouse and Zen, who both make tons from subs and bits, so it still works for them mostly. Nyan doesn't give a fuck, so she's in, and the others are small enough that they are fine with the current method. Also possible the JP girls have different deals.

tl;dr - Vei and Silver don't want to milk piggies anymore, because that requires work and parasocialism.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:30:31 No.48215556 >>48215514 >ADHD zoomer with burnout tendencies >Business arc This can't end well for snackers Also tabs

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:30:52 No.48215565 File: 210 KB, 272x394, ezgif.com-gif-maker.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48213400

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:31:18 No.48215574 File: 533 KB, 772x419, 1642724032001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215532 that's that good shit

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:31:26 No.48215579 File: 171 KB, 850x1687, 1670495419728434.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:31:59 No.48215591 >>48215549 I mean a better tldr is lazy cunts want to get paid for being lazy cunts

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:32:07 No.48215596 >>48215579 looks like my sister

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:32:28 No.48215605 File: 146 KB, 850x1319, 1671359825390445.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:32:31 No.48215610 >>48215579 Who is the third doll?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:32:40 No.48215612 File: 664 KB, 709x667, 1681690355149983.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215549 >anon thinks someone will read all of this

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:33:07 No.48215621 File: 117 KB, 655x345, image_2023-04-27_173302144.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215574

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:33:38 No.48215635 File: 2.66 MB, 2813x1738, 1665073234522176.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215612 I did

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:33:54 No.48215645 >>48215605 Pink Love status?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:34:32 No.48215657 File: 154 KB, 598x1338, Mouse feet Bubi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215610 Bubi

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:34:38 No.48215660

>>48213359
>aethal doesn't deserve this
aethel deserves worse actually
>inb4 le pink cat gosling
wrong, never even watched nyan, but was anally raped by a gymfag fratbro for 3 hours and I have seen hell and it is where aethel and the rest of his fellow demonspawn belong

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:35:17 No.48215677

>>48215549
This seems likely. It's a case of the girls shifting from a VTuber audience to a more general streamer audience. VTuber audiences pelt their streamers with donations. I can't remember the last time anyone did that to Vei. Remember the Godzilla alert?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:35:32 No.48215683 >>48215660 Hot

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:36:06 No.48215696 File: 887 KB, 1155x728, 1679770034719895.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215660 >but was anally raped by a gymfag fratbro for 3 hours Damn lucky you

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:36:21 No.48215703 >>48215401 >implying only 5ch knows about ベジータ王子

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:38:27 No.48215769 File: 9 KB, 112x112, 1676906800398312.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] vei is going to play wow with soda god lord not again

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:39:42 No.48215801 >>48215769 radio stream again

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:40:03 No.48215810 >>48215703 you god damn larger he's not the 王子 and/or 王様 of the 5ch thread he is the prince of the saiyans though honestly a missed opportunity

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:40:05 No.48215811 >>48215769 She's never streaming again at this rate lol >inb4 tabs

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:41:51 No.48215859 >>48215811 Good riddance

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:42:38 No.48215886 >>48215612 I did

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:42:38 No.48215887 >>48215683 >>48215696 Being viciously raped in my ass by some muscle bound freak as he called me babe and shushed me as I struggled until I died internally is known as a "not sexy or desirable at all" actually, but haha 4chan post le funny meme haha

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:43:05 No.48215901 File: 5 KB, 132x137, 1659897860820658.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215887

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:43:58 No.48215922 File: 252 KB, 1374x1256, 1680907790133141.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215887 >Being viciously raped in my ass by some muscle bound freak as he called me babe and shushed me as I struggled until I died internally

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:44:30 No.48215931 >>48215610 Silver

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:45:37 No.48215956 File: 434 KB, 1842x2198, 1636888806253.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God this drama has me so tease. I wish I could blow off some steam with my Nyanbros.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:46:52 No.48215989 >>48215956 This drama is mid, I prefer our Hogwarts Legacy arc

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:47:14 No.48215997

>>48215549
But then, wouldn't a better solution be to sign with another agency and get sponsors from both sides? Maybe the VShojo contract asked for merch exclusivity? If they are not using VShojo's support for events and other matters, it wouldn't make sense for them to stay and get a worse deal than with other agencies that focus on merch and sponsors.

My guess is that Silver is gonna try and sign with another talent agency. I don't see her managing her own merch or sponsors.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:48:05 No.48216019 >>48213409 >you are my friend https://youtu.be/r6EPMvIhtyA

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:48:25 No.48216023 File: 1.20 MB, 1174x1077, 1658011593179.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48215956 Do not lie. You're just looking for an excuse to gaypost again.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:48:38 No.48216025 >>48215997 She's joining Mythic.

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:49:49 No.48216057

>>48215997
That'll be interesting. I wouldn't want to be in a corpo with the bitch personally. I would also hesitate to sign her considering she could drag your corp through the mud in a couple years. Mythic does seem to fit though since everyone is so disconnected and they have no problem with people like Mizkif.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:50:47 No.48216085 File: 188 KB, 1295x866, 1635016265608.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I came here to have straight sex, but there's only fags around

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:50:59 No.48216088 i wonder how long silver has despised mouse and how long did mouse attempt to be friends with her before just saying fuck it when silver made her contempt for her public

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:51:39 No.48216100 >>48215810 i do not browse 5ch who are they using 王子 for if not for Vegeta

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:51:43 No.48216105 >>48213409 Anyone notice that Vei left a nice response but Silver didn't respond?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:52:14 No.48216118 File: 101 KB, 300x300, 1636704294115.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48216023 I would never. I am straight. I have no interest in making strangers cum on my face. This is a VTuber thread. How pathetic do you think I am?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:52:36 No.48216125 File: 1.28 MB, 1920x1080, 1661787169962158.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This thread is too gay, we need some tits here.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:53:35 No.48216149 File: 53 KB, 231x192, KEKWA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48216025 >gets mad about people not doing enough to be her friend >joins a group with nux and bunny

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:54:24 No.48216168 >>48216149 Don't try to make sense out of woman logic.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:54:49 No.48216177 File: 102 KB, 980x551, FrxgtPJaYAcfCjc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48216118 >I am straight

Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:54:54 No.48216179

I could post erotic nazuna fanfiction to replace the drama if you want
I say replace because it's 947k characters long total if I add up every single file so it would need about 500 posts total. Which would be like 9 hours of non-stop posting. I get bored too quick so it'd take a few days minimum

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:55:15 No.48216186 File: 103 KB, 734x775, slgps54mq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyway, with all this drama we have forgotten the most important issue here: will Mouse get rid of her channel points sound alerts?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:55:18 No.48216189 >>48216149 If I can understand women thinking, I won't be here with you anon...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:56:15 No.48216209 File: 1.45 MB, 1162x1296, 1681079316041292.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wouldn't it be funny if we randomly started kissing each other to get rid of tourists? Ha-ha...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:56:30 No.48216218 >>48216100 me, unfortunately

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:57:01 No.48216231 File: 185 KB, 1004x1080, 1635016028798.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48216179 D-Don't tell me you wrote that all by yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 09:59:31 No.48216295 File: 133 KB, 149x708, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the four horsemen of homosexuality have assembled

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:01:20 No.48216340 >>48215596 can you introduce me to your sister

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:01:30 No.48216344 >>48216231 I type fast

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:01:51 No.48216354 >>48215605 >mouse's ass and nyan's tits >not the other way around I am furious.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:01:55 No.48216357 File: 682 KB, 1119x568, 1682561094810879.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] But call him a Fleshy and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I've been found out.”

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:02:53 No.48216386 >>48216295 lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:03:12 No.48216397 >>48216295 Why Mouse?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:03:24 No.48216401 File: 361 KB, 456x456, 498463.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48216179 Maybe a chapter or 2 to check it out... Can't be any worse than the old summercamp ones we got here.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:03:33 No.48216404 >>48216397 why not faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:04:23 No.48216426 >>48216397 All mousefags are public use onaholes. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:05:52 No.48216462 File: 238 KB, 471x449, 1680638128856324.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48216426

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:06:02 No.48216465 >>48214095 >>48214397 Also Silver's lore video hasn't been uploaded anywhere and it doesn't affect anyone but her so they could easily just ignore it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:06:36 No.48216482 File: 911 KB, 1224x680, 1670727001803425.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Soapcatsoon 10mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2kp7FLNWso

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:07:40 No.48216509 >>48216426 I am not a vessel for your disgusting fantasies. I am a human being. I will not stand for this dehumanization. You should feel ashamed of yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:08:02 No.48216519 >>48214095 >>48214397 This is why Mouse's lore video has been delayed for so long, they had to rewrite it to get rid of Vei & Silver

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:09:35 No.48216564 File: 2.49 MB, 1624x750, F42E39FB-7F82-48F0-BADB-3A8237542FB8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48216519 >Bubi and Froot team up to kill Silver and write her out of the lore BRAVO MERRY

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:09:35 No.48216565 >>48216482 >genshit

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:10:12 No.48216586 >>48216401 I like seafood in a sexual way

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:10:27 No.48216594 Positive posting from here on out.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:10:51 No.48216609 >>48216594 I hate anon

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:11:35 No.48216628 >>48216564 That would actually be amazing. Maybe Eldritch Nyan and evil Mouse team up to kill Vei too.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:12:16 No.48216648 >>48216594 I hate Not anything in particular I simply HATE

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:12:42 No.48216658 New bread: >>48216631 >>48216631 >>48216631 >>48216631

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:12:51 No.48216664 >>48216179 Post it in a rentry?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:13:22 No.48216683 File: 352 KB, 444x422, 1667539990556378.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48216594 Froog onahole

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:30:12 No.48217140 File: 165 KB, 448x448, silverded.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>48212936 My dad said I could never get with Silver because we're "both menhera"

>>	Anonymous Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:51:42 No.48217602 >>48215370 im too tired to spell it all out. Google what reckful said about sodas skill in wow and try not to be such a retard

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