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>Hololive: talents are oppressed by management to be pure idols and pander to possessive men.
>Nijisanji: female talents have lighty restrictions, like their male counterparts.
>Vshojo: female talents are free to do whatever they want with only minor exceptions.

>> No.48180419

whorehouse, cockfighting ring, girls' school

>> No.48180563

>>48180315
Vshojo is not on the same level as the other two. In fact, Vshojo is so loose with their rules that they will probably disband soon enough.

>> No.48180582

>>48180315
kill yourself

>> No.48180603

>>48180315
Women are literally built to be kept in line by a man, which is why Hololive remains king despite its faults.

>> No.48180648

>>48180315
Hololive, easily. Because the entertainment is better and they attract more talented people.

By the way, can we stop acting like Yagoo is out here picking bitches up from the street and forcing them to be idols? These girls KNOW what they are getting into.

If a chuuba joins Holo and then decides that she suddenly hates being an idol and "oh woe is me, idol culture so bad bros" MAYBE SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE FUCKING AUDITIONED THEN

>> No.48180659

>>48180582
>beep beep
NPC dectected

>> No.48180662

>>48180315
>oppressed
Shouldn't have signed that contract

>> No.48180665

>>48180315
>Vshojo: female talents are free to do whatever they want with only minor exceptions.
Unless that means playing wizard game of course.

>> No.48180723

>>48180648 (Me)
I know vagina havers aren't used to accountability, but come on. No one joins Hololive by accident.

>> No.48180742

>>48180315
I still watch some Hololive but now it's mostly Nijisanji and VSPO

>> No.48180748

Stop lying with the 'minor exceptions' and also, I can't wait to see the other members realise they get to keep their models so they can basically walk out the door, keep their audience and get full cut of revenue whilst still keeping all their friends cause "muh freedom"

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48180783

>>48180315
>three party system
Disgusting, go fourth party and pick small corpos.

>> No.48180907

>>48180662
this
>oh noes I willingly signed this thing that says I have to play by the workplace rules, and all I got was millions of dollars of a work from home job takes 10 hours a week of my time this is oppressive :(((((

>> No.48180908

>>48180315
>Hololive: talents are oppressed by management to be pure idols and pander to possessive men
>Who is Matsuri?
>Who is Twa...?
>Who is Lap+?
They can act however they want, and management doesn't force them to do so, if they do, it's because they want to, and if anyone is forcing them, it would be the fanbase they nurtured themselves. While in Vshojo you get fired to please the twitroon crowd

>> No.48181049

>>48180742
Based

>> No.48181105

>>48180315
I see Hololive as Traditionally Conservative while Nijisanji is Meritocratic, Vshojo ain't in the same league as these two and inlets a fact

>> No.48181243

If you bring in the money you can do whatever the fuck you want in Hololive. Prime examples are Ayame and Gura, they are not oppresed in the slightest.

>> No.48181378

>>48180315
>idol: you get to design your model and they buy you new gear

>> No.48181411

>>48180315
>Vshojos: whores
>Nijisanji: cucks
>Hololive: funny
hey i can do it too.

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>>48181378

>> No.48181529
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48181529

I only watch JPs from both Hololive and Nijisanji, I don't see that much of a difference honestly, there is a baseline of manners and professionalism set by Japanese society and that's enough.

>> No.48181577

>>48181411
i this this is more accurate
>Vshojos: cucks and whores
>Nijisanji: cucks and whores
>Hololive: idols and a few whores (mine)

>> No.48181629

>>48180315
Don't make me tap the sign

>> No.48181721

Sora has stated that anyone in hololive can pick how they want to present themselves, but they also are responsible for it then.
Management can advice against it... but as we hear a lot of the girls ignore managment.
Games might not simply be legal to stream under japanese law but thats not hololive's fault that they actually follow it

>> No.48181788

>>48180723
>No one joins Hololive by accident.
Mori...
Kronii...

>> No.48181953

>>48180563
just like a real matriarchal society

>> No.48182006

>>48180648
A lot of hololive (JP) girls are either failed idols, ex-idols or indie-tier idols. The rest are girls who wanted to be entertainers, idols or singers but their dreams were shattered and found their place in hololive at last where people love them deeply.
Not a single girls there is forced to be an idol, case in point laplus who wanted to be a whore and she's going full whore.

>> No.48182181

>>48180648
>By the way, can we stop acting like Yagoo is out here picking bitches up from the street and forcing them to be idols? These girls KNOW what they are getting into.
Yea and No. They probably have some understanding of hololive in terms of being a viewer but not in terms of being a talent.

Why do you think Myth went into detail on how hololive talents don't have any control over their model or default outfit? That talents could only request minor changes and those requests could be completely rejected. How they can modify new outfits but aren't allowed to make any changes to the main outfit. We didn't hear about that for no reason.
That was partly a warning that holoEN does come with a lot of rules that viewers wouldn't know.

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>>48180315
>he has forgotten the contents of the sign
Let me remind you

>> No.48183745

>>48180315
Shit, shit, shit.
No I will not take any feedback, I will not take any criticism, I will not change my opinion, I will not acknowledge any other view but my own as fact.

>> No.48185095

whatever you say boss, still not watching corpos :)

>> No.48185252

>>48182181
Except every single complaint about Holo made on twitter, reddit, and /here/ are complaints about things viewers do know. No one really talks about them not being able to make minor changes to their models. The conversation is always about stuff like, for example, idol culture, which viewers obviously know.

>> No.48185656

>>48180315
can you go into further detail about these "minor exceptions"?

>> No.48186088

>>48181577
>>Hololive: idols and a few whores (mine)
sorry but by popular demand
is HOLOPRO now, cause Cover is also for cucks and whores

>> No.48186229

>>48182006
a good portion of them are from the same circle of niconico streamers as the older nijisanji members
the only difference is they got into a different company

>> No.48187108

Not sure if anon just shitposting or actual catalogfag believing his shitpost and if we are being honest for a second, Hololive is unironically the better company, strongest brand power, very lenient and the most important thing is they got better support they still give real support even for Holostars, Can't say the same for the other two

>> No.48187595

I don't like the way Nijisanji zerg rush their livers out with barely any support. Just this year alone they've debuted like what, 30 new people? The new VTA people barely got their feet wet and now there's another wave coming.
Contrast that with how much shilling (probably even undeserved) HoloX has gotten and I think you can tell which one is better for your career. Unless you only want to stream part time without any restriction whatsoever, I think getting into Hololive is better especially if you're serious about becoming a top Vtuber. I don't know what the fuck HoloEN is doing but even the ID seems to get plenty of support for being a side branch.
Vshojo is not even in the same stratosphere as the other two and with a different management style so not sure what OP is talking about.

>> No.48191292

>>48180315
>Patriarchal structure continues doing well, fully intact with few destabilizing events. When they do get one it's handled quickly and in a way that minimizes damage.
>Egalitarians getting "suspended" left and right, say they're all equal but are obviously split into castes and ran by an authoritarian ruling class
>Matriarchal structure prizes "talent freedom" and chaos above order and as a result is burning down completely and being a complete failure
Just like real life.

>> No.48191440

>>48182006
I will beat the idol back into La+

>> No.48191477

>>48187595
>Nijisanji zerg rush
It funny because they gonna debut another male jp organ in less than a month.

>> No.48191485

>>48180315
kys

>> No.48191754

>>48185252
Indie vtubers who are paying attention do know that if they join holoEN that the finished model is given to them. If they are /here/ they have likely even seen that certain roomates have complained about their models.

>> No.48192307

>>48180783
meme/reaction content, nah, If the Indie/small corpo can't do GFE or be very affectionate i won't watch.

>> No.48192370

>>48180315
VShojo somehow managed to get lower than Holo and Niji...

>> No.48192419

>>48180665
>feminism now includes trans people
i guess is not matriarchal anymore

>> No.48195420

>>48180315
Hololive

>> No.48195556

>>48180315
Hololive.
Women should learn not to be whores

>> No.48195640

>>48180648
Explain Kronii

>> No.48196028
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>>48180315
>Phase Connect: Can do a lot of stuff within reason, but they still get managed and is not talent freedom
There you go.

>> No.48196032

>>48192307
Based

>> No.48196827

>>48196032
it's that simple really i'm not into this for the ´´le epic memes´´ or ´´le based fr fr´´ stuff. I'm here for waifus.

>> No.48197035

Hololive, all the way.
I also like Phase Connect a lot.
Generally as long as the girls are only whores for fictional characters and not constantly interacting with men I am fine with it.
Hololive girls are pretty wild and unhinged too, people forget just how insane they actually are.
The only catch is that they just don't do the NTR shit or gross real life sex talk Nijisanji girls do.

>> No.48197342

>>48196827
There's remi,

>> No.48197745

>>48180315
>Hololive: talents are free to advertise themselves however they like with some restictions
>Nijisanji: battle royale where you get shits if you bring money.
>Vshojo: troons and fags pandering.

>> No.48198065

>>48197342
Remi is unironically one of the best GFE possible, she does absolutely every single fucking move in the playbook and she commits to it, she has never been anything but honest and pure.
The problem is that she's an ESL SEA and that's like a massive debuff.
I guarantee if there was a cute loli with an unbreakable kayfabe who was always affectionate like her, had fun intimate streams, got drunk and did raw GFE, posted cute tweets and membership posts and always said up front that her fans were engaged to her and she wasn't debuffed she'd be huge.
Remi is good at being honest about all this shit with a certain innocence that really makes me believe she means it.
There's no hint of irony, or doubt in her words. And her personal life stories, and the consistency of her behavior really makes it seem like she's just a very mentally damaged girl who craves the affection of a community and her hate towards NTR seems very real, probably rooted in some family problems even and making it seems so believable that she really means her commitment.

>> No.48199136

>>48198065
Yeah i followed her, i wish there was more really low view ones like her, for me the least public there is the best.

>> No.48199215

>>48180315
The one that rallies a twitter mob against her coworkers

>> No.48199750

>>48199136
the less public there is the better*

>> No.48199937

>>48182605
kek

>> No.48199949

>>48180783
Hello Banned Vtuber Memes

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>>48180315
I'm a possessive man so it's really gotta be Holo for me, not sure why you'd want to watch the others

>> No.48200065
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48200065

Matriarchal societies produce handsome men but degenerate women. Patriarchal societies produce boring men but beautiful women. Generally you want to pair up men from matriarch society with women of patriarch society to get the best couples.

>> No.48200341

>>48199750
>>48198065
do you have any recommendation, i don't care about brand or anything, i only want the chuuba to deliver what i seek.

>> No.48200662

>>48198065
>>48200341
mikazuki silvi

>> No.48200970

>>48182181
>Why do you think Myth went into detail on how hololive talents don't have any control over their model or default outfit?
wasn't gura's model and character a reference to a shark meme she would do as senzawa?

>> No.48201040

>Vshojo: female talents are free to do whatever they want with only minor exceptions.
It is not "minor" to be trapped in Twitch.

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>>48180315
>The matriarchal company is the one with the most retarded needless drama

>> No.48202023

>>48201714
Why did you post the same image as me?

>> No.48202057

>>48180315
>>Hololive: talents are oppressed by management to be pure idols and pander to possessive men.
dyrbi?

>> No.48202119

>>48195640
>can LITERALLY quit at any point she wants
She can 4B her way out of the fucking place, then.

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>>48180315
It is the nature of Anime to wade through censorship industrial complex.

>> No.48202662

>>48200662
1k views, i don't want my comment to be drowned in crowds D:

>> No.48202967

>>48202662
>D:
get that shit out of here. she averages 100 on twitch and 35 on yt

>> No.48203172

>>48202967
ok will check her next time if i can catch her streams, for now i will watch random videos, good luck anon. and thanks for the recomendation

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>>48182605

>> No.48203950

>>48195640
She likes her job and "Kronii hates idol culture" rrats are just that?

>> No.48205383

>>48200065
>Matriarchal societies produce handsome men but degenerate women.
>Matriarchal societies produce handsome men
>handsome
>men
laughs in hebrew

>> No.48205656

>>48180563
Because they're matriarchal and matriarchy is moral anarchy.

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