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>HoloEN has the whole market-
>No stream, debut homos, month long breaks

>HoloEN in shambles, ok NijiEN now it's the time shine-
>Terminate Zaion, yab yab yab, cancelled concert, dead

>VOMS
>Loses their only relevant member

>WACTOR
>Implodes

>Ok Kawaii, time to rise-
>Whole gen leaves

>Maybe Phase Con-
>Termination

>Now Vshojo is the most consistent corp-
>2 bitches leave

>> No.48140368 [DELETED] 
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>>48139789
it's jewish magic

>> No.48140484

>The only bad think you can say about HoloEN is they don't stream.
>Still getting a concert.
I don't think you know what the word shambles means. That is more Cover managements fault since it seems they've got them in constant projects and meetings behind-the-scenes instead of letting them stream.

>> No.48140783

>>48140368
>IdolEN2 to debut in 2023
>all companies start having mysterious yabs
maybe there's something to it

>> No.48141081

>>48140484
HoloEN are boring

>> No.48141101

>>48139789
didn't tsunderia die when purin went indie early this year?

>> No.48141203

>>48139789
You forgot Yugo.

>> No.48141211

>>48139789
>>48140368
I like how Idolshills pretend that they didn't fire like half of their first gen talents within 6 months of operation and now pretend EN is their first gen in public.

>> No.48141244

>>48139789
Apart from some of them being overworked and weird cases like Gura, HoloEN put to shame the rest of the EN Vtubing sphere

>> No.48141332
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>>48139789
>HoloEN has the whole market-
>No stream, debut homos, month long breaks
Winning while doing absolutely nothing.

>> No.48141340

>shillschizo already here
it's still jewish magic

>> No.48141534

>>48141203
Who? I don't remember this liver ever existing

>> No.48141629

>>48139789
If HoloEN's only issue is not streaming that much than their by default the best in the EN market by a large margin.

>> No.48141637

>>48141211
They ;like to memory hole inconvenient facts into an oven of sorts. Odd, since they dodge ovens generally.

>> No.48141641

>>48141332
You have to be a fucking retard to stick to HoloEN in 2023.
Being a HoloEN fan during 2022 was already near bran damage tier.

>> No.48141898

>>48140368
>>48140783
I believe this

>> No.48141969

>>48141641
HoloEN unironically is better in 2023 than 2022. And the relative freedom from retarded drama besides kronies seething every time vesper responds to kronii is pretty nice.

>> No.48142067

>>48141641
If you drop the homocollabers, hololive is the best corp. Simple as.

>> No.48142094

>>48141969
What did that Korean women do to those motherfuckers, why can't they stop seething

>> No.48142130

>>48141641
Being a Hololive fan in 2023 is just like being an Apple fan.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. It's safe but dry and uneventful.

>> No.48142224

>>48142094
Ensnared them with her masculine voice and desire to eat week old subway sandwiches in smoothie form.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoqPy1hk3BI

>> No.48143341

>>48141641
Yep, HoloEN is still the top making retards like yourself seethe.

>> No.48143415

>>48142130
Who's venturing? Go on. And try not to bring up some fucking react streamer.

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>>48140368
>>48140783
This
I'm starting to think some "trickery" is truly at play here

>>48141637
>memory hole inconvenient facts into an oven of sorts
Kek
Memes do write themselves at this point

>> No.48144282

>>48143341
Yep, HoloEN is still trash making retards like yourself simp while offering no value.

>> No.48145711

>>48139789
VSPO will survive

>> No.48145895

>>48139789
They all were blinded by the coov boom but now money is tight more than ever

>> No.48146223

>>48140368
these retards already started spamming generations just because they have slight success with their current members, that's how it all starts to go to shit

>> No.48146474

>>48139789
I wish that meant that EN vtubing is dying for good but unfortunately it's still not the case.

>> No.48146690

>>48140368
English Vtubers is a mistake

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>>48140368
Well..... Rin Penrose is decent, I admit

>> No.48147403

>>48140368
The jews are at it again, ffs.

>> No.48147823
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>>48139789
This is what happens when you crucify the only person who can stop the apocalypse.

>> No.48147924

>>48147117
All she does is complain

>> No.48148730

>>48147924
I swear her streams would be much less interesting if she doesn't speak and laugh with that RP accent

>> No.48148744

>>48139789
>>HoloEN has the whole market-
>>No stream, debut homos, month long breaks
why is this a bad thing? some of us that do watch the boys actually got our moneys' worth so jokes on you

>> No.48149134

Somewhere out there Zaion is playing honkai star rail. I hope shes doing fine

>> No.48150050

>>48139789
>>HoloEN has the whole market-
That is exactly why they're fucking up. There's no real competition, why show effort

>> No.48150484

>>48148744
I'll be honest with you homochads, I don't have a problem with them. Just don't let them collab with my oshi unless you want everyone to start shitting on them aside from their 3view status.

>> No.48150653

>>48141081
>boring
>more people watch them
The world not revolve around adhd zoomer anon.

>> No.48151849

>>48139789
The Koreans will save the scene

>> No.48152236
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>>48151849
dyrbi?

>> No.48153235

>>48151849
The Koreans are saving WACTOR

>> No.48153269
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>>48151849
>>48153235
korea why are you so based?

>> No.48155150

>>48150653
yeah, normies usually watch boring ass shit

>> No.48155517

>>48147924
So, the real wife experience?

>> No.48155534

>>48143590
>I'm starting to think some "trickery" is truly at play here
Oy vey, you don't say?

>> No.48155706

>>48139789
>Why is every corpo fucking up?
Overall trends are against all of them
>Covid Boom is over, market share shrinking, money is tighter
>Corpos clamp down on remaining talents harder to try and extract more revenue, causing more of them to quit or become unmotivated
>Indie scene continues to grow
>Net result is that the benefits of being a corptuber long term gets less every year, as the gap in viewership between corpos and indies continues to narrow
>At most, the smart thing is to join a corpo for clout and then leave, you'll likely be set for life and no one is splitting your paycheck
>Even Vshojo, which is more of a glorified talent agency, is now getting pressured by competing agencies
Vtubing is a fad, and most of the big corps out there jumped on the fad before it had stabilized. Inevitably, most of them will become obsolete dinosaurs, as always happens in a rapidly evolving industry.

>> No.48155714

>>48139789
Hololive has JP and that part literately make them kneel all. The Rushia yab wasn't even relevant to shake them even a bit, it's even the opposite they are stronger with more project under their wing than any other corpo out there.


Also PC has a nicer ambiance, way more interactions between the members compared to the other EN corpo, sure Yuri graduated, but doesn't look like that will make them hate each other from now on, we are far from all the yab and drama than the other corpo.

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>>48150653
>HoloEN
>more people watch them
>the most viewed Holoen in March is Gura sitting at the 73rd place
>Selen is 52nd
Holobrony and being delusional - name a better duo.

>> No.48155991

>>48155714
Ok phasecuck shills.

>> No.48156579
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>>48141641
Its the opposite, the biggest mistake anyone can do if they like corporate vtubers is watch anyone but HoloEN. Yeah they're safe but at least you know what you're getting into, what would you honestly recommend they do?
>NijiEN has changed its content significantly than on debut. Drama central, has to deal with random dudes you don't care about appearing in your oshi's streams. Only made for female fans nowadays.
>Tsunderia had good talents but the company imploded due to horrific mismanagement. Doing just as fine if not better as indies.
>Kawaii just had a talent exodus
>Vshojo just had some big talents leave, one of which burnt bridges on her way out
The only promising ones nowadays are Phase and Idol, and I mean that ONLY if you're someone into EN corporate vtubers. Other than that you may as well watch indies, but it still says a lot about the EN vtuber sphere that even though half of the talents barely stream, they'd STILL watch HoloEN over anything else.

>> No.48156753

>>48155991
Ok blind denialist

>> No.48158344
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It's time

>> No.48159964

>>48139789
The Coomer Corpos will be the only ones left. Just as planned.

>> No.48160581

>>48142094
Honest answer: I watched Kronii for, like, two months after debut and dipped because I lost interest. I watched a bit from her solo streams after the Tempus fallout too.
The answer is that she’s so boring when she’s not collabing with Vesper that before Tempus, you probably had to be some schizo gachi to keep watching because the kind of normalfag who wouldn’t have cared about her collabs, like me, were already filtered.
I’m not saying my personal take is the absolute truth, but I like her Vesper collabs and squad collabs, and I find her solo content way too boring to ever give a shit.
Ever had a friendship that ended and you realize it was emotionally draining and you never enjoyed it and started getting mad at the former friend? Sadly I have and had to fight the schizo in me about how terrible a person they were.
Now imagine that, but instead of a friend, it’s a vtuber you went gachi for. And instead of just you, imagine a whole group of people, where statistics say they won’t be self-aware and try to deal with that schizo feeling. And there you have your answer.
By the way, I only befriended that person out of pity over his shitty life situation. I’m pretty sure a lot of kronies started going gachi for Kronii for similar reasons. That might also have contributed.

>> No.48162729

>>48139789
WACTOR's resilience is legendary at this point. Even after all the shit they pulled, their girls are still having moderate success considering they target the Spanish speaking audience. There's even rumors that the CEO is about to do something stupid again, but we have no confirmation yet.

>> No.48163403

Reading all of this piss poor takes from pseudo-scholars pretending to know how shit works is baffling but not surprising. The collapse is under way, not exactly a final yab but definitely a make or break situation to put the nail in the coffin

>> No.48163715

>>48141203
Yugo is doing better than ever in their personal life. It was all for the best.

>> No.48163766
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>>48139789
Idol bros, we won.

>> No.48163841

Pekora exists and I'm an ESL so seeing ENfags crying about their market dying is always a joy to watch.

>> No.48163849

>>48163766
God, why is Rin so damn erotic?

>> No.48163898

>>48163403
And than he proceeds to give his own piss poor take pretending to know how shit works.
So the difference is what, you being an actual scholar or what?

>> No.48164039

>>48151849
>he says with how they've conducted themselves in holoEN

>> No.48164088

IF you owned a corporation and only hired bratty girls, wtf do you think is gonna happen.

half the fucking vtuber community are troons and blm supporters anyway, bunch of absolute fucking retards

>> No.48164122

>>48139789
HoloEN's worst offense is that they're boring and coasting.

>> No.48164167

>>48163766
Look at that adorable leprechaun loli. I wanna starve her to death.

>> No.48164177

>>48164122
Ina...

>> No.48164263

>>48163715
Didn't even know Yugo could sing like that when they were still a in Niji. They really did hold them back a lot it seems.

>> No.48164324

>>48164263
>they/them
kill yourself troonlover

>> No.48164332

>>48163849
I don't like how there are so many individual strands of white hair that my eyes want to focus on. Aside from that, I get it though.

>> No.48164351

>>48156579
>it still says a lot about the EN vtuber sphere that even though half of the talents barely stream, they'd STILL watch HoloEN over anything else.
Reddit, Twitch, Twitter will never admit it

>> No.48166121

>>48163766
Didn't the eel have a valorant date with her bf. She also hates May in ggst, can't be based.

>> No.48166132

>>48143341
They can't be the top if they make less money than Niji.

>> No.48166188

https://web.archive.org/web/20230426123715/https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1651192250930544641
It's a BVTM Discord thread. Say hi everyone!

>> No.48166613

>>48166188
the fact that the one reply included in the screencap was at the top of the thread + got deleted either instantly confirms fabrication or disapproves it entirely. I wouldn't put it past them or their members to purposefully make threads for the sake of posting material when the well dries up

>> No.48166693

>>48164177
She's no worse a streamer than Kaela. Background streamer is a genre on its own, like people who keep lofi hiphop on. You don't want someone fastpaced and animated while you work because it's just going to lead to FOMO and distractions.
>>48166188
Explains a lot of shit takes here.

>> No.48166774

>>48141203
She's better off as indie.

>> No.48166783

>>48166188
>>48166693
>Explains a lot of shit takes here.
https://youtu.be/0i4VBhm81UU?t=176
What did you expect?

>> No.48166999

>>48166121
She's korean please understand.

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>>48140368
>>48143590
True. This is getting really weird and not in a funny way.

>> No.48167148

>>48141641
Okay, but why?

>> No.48167147

>>48163766
Catalogfag, I don't think you know what winning means.

>> No.48167321

>>48158344
13 YEARS AND WE STILL WINNING VINESAUCE BROS

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>>48140368
>>48143590
>>48167002

>> No.48167923

>>48139789
>HoloEN in shambles
Based on what?

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Vtubing is a dying industry that only took off as a covid fad.
Normies want 3d streamers with relateable normie drama and wacky comedy, sorry, I don't make the rules, normies have shit taste. Thats why fillian and the twitch vtubers are sorta doing okay because they panders to that

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