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47967219 No.47967219 [Reply] [Original]

Now that both Hololive and Nijisanji are collabing with men more frequently, can we finally take a look at the more smaller, independent idol companies? We've got, Production Kawaii, Phase Connect, EIEN Project, AkioAIR, Tsunderia, Prism Project, Idol Corp, all of whom have pure idols that don't talk to men in the slightest. Is it time we finally make the switch to a pure and idol companies?

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>> No.47967310

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>> No.47967534

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>> No.47967727

>>47967219
You have no idea what you're talking about. Most of those companies have had male collabs. The two girls in your picture have done male collabs. /ppg/ has schizos that hate Yura specifically because she collabs with men so often.

>> No.47968347
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>>47967219
Out of all of those, only Phase Connect is worth looking at. They have Pippa and Lumi, the two best western idols of our time. They, and they alone, are the reason why people should stop watching Hololive. None of the other girls from other companies can match their talents. It's the reason why both Lumi and Pippa are becoming the fastest growing idols.

>> No.47968426

>>47967219
>we've got Tsunderia
you have to let go, anon.

>> No.47971484

>>47968347
Tell me more about these two.

>> No.47973461

>47967219
>all of whom have pure idols that don't talk to men in the slightest
I will pretend to give a (You) but not really.

>> No.47974312

>>47968347
>the two best western idols of our time
yeah because they're so good at lying to their audience
the greatest idols, very true to their craft

>> No.47974404

>>47968347
They’re the biggest whores in the industry and you know it

>> No.47974418

>>47974312
Kson get a real job

>> No.47978157

>>47974404
Don’t speak ill of them.

>> No.47982510

>>47967219
Just watch nananashi inc

>> No.47987365

>>47982510
Who the fuck is that?

>> No.47989898

>>47987365
https://www.774.ai/
Hope (You) did your reps.

>> No.47993036

>>47989898
Thanks.

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>>47967219
>Yura

>> No.47997596

>>47967219
Not a unicorn myself but if I was I would have made the switch to another company besides Cover a long time ago I legitimately don't understand why Holocorns haven't done this

>> No.47997854

>>47968347
You'll niggers don't even know what idols are.
Kill yourself my man

>> No.47999319

>>47967219
It's not worth it, they don't have purer members than holo has and they're basically just streamers. You don't know how good you have it as a fan of Hololive or Nijisanji with all the big events, coordination and professionalism until you step into the small corpo sphere where there's barely anything but streams and drama.

>> No.48002378

>>47967310
>>47967534
agreed

>> No.48004184

>>47989898
Didn’t they change their names recently?

>> No.48004917

your fucking EOP streamers are not idols just because they do a karaoke ffs

>> No.48005455

>>47967219
>niji
>collabing with males "MORE FREQUENTLY"
>"idols"

>> No.48006323

>>48005455
Nijisanji ironically more idol than Hololive with how many lives concert they spam.

>> No.48006396

>>47997596
Already did after tempiss 2.0

>> No.48006650

>>47967219
The only one out of these that is somewhat idol like is kawaii and they don't have a great track record of being able to keep their talents so I'd think about it twice before making any of them my new oshi

>> No.48006672

>>47967219
real idols shave their heads and do naked dogeza apologies if they are ever caught interacting with males
western whores would never ever have that level of dedication to a bit

>> No.48007219

If you're that bothered by vtubers doing collabs with fellow vtubers of the opposite gender...Go outside, touch some grass, and contemplate your life choices. And keep contemplating them until you're no longer bothered by it.

>> No.48007471

Hololive are idols, HoloEN should be idols in theory too. Other companies make no attempt to pass as idols, they are just vtubers. Tho many try to appeal to the CGDCT audience or GFE market.
If all you really want is to avoid males on stream here's a rundown of some

>Nijisanji
Avoid it like the plague, it's basically the NTR company, all the girls enjoy NTR and do it to their fans all the time.
They will surprise you with a guy at all girls off collabs, they will pose together rubbing their hands making fun of their fans, they will have their streams randomly raided by a guy and proceed to act like a retarded high schooler with a crush.

>HoloEN
Split in the middle between those who have semi regular collabs with a few males and those who do not.
Very easy to avoid the males if you stick to the good girls, and even the whores mostly avoid the guys except for maybe one collab every week or two.

>idol
No male interactions on stream to my knowledge but they have interacted with males on their chat on stream. Despite the name the CEO clarified "it means idol in the normal sense, someone you idolize, not japanese idols" which seems like an odd thing to bring out of nowhere, so perhaps he's just preparing for an inevitable collab with males. He said on an interview that they planned to have male vtubers debut at one point but changed their mind.
So between the debut of gen HE and EN they saw the chinese profits on NijiEN and started to consider males and then saw the shit storm that happened in HoloEN and decided it was not worth it.
Two of their members have a few red flags meaning they might want to interact with males later. Proceed to that corpo with caution. Beware the eel and the prince.

>Phase Connect
SAD GIRLS COMPANY is not a meme, it's the company's identity. They will never debut males.
They have no proper rule against males on stream, but all of them are aware that their audience does not like it and they do not resent their audience for it, so for the most part they go along with it.
Some have never interacted with a male on stream. Male on stream or male interaction is historically very rare in the corpo, but it has happened. One of them stopped her GFE ASMR to voice chat with some guy she knows for 20 minutes, an actual NTR incident that drove the fans insane. Another one is aware that guys hate guys on stream and avoids it, but still has done a few interviews with guys in a very professional and formal way. Some of her fans hate it, others don't mind. It's on the same level you could see on HoloJP.
I'd say it's a very mixed bag, if the mere possibility that a girl will interact with a male on stream is too much for you to handle avoid them, but if knowing they won't have males and that male interaction is extremely rare is good enough you can go check them out.

>EIEN
New corpo, no male interaction as far as I'm aware. But the company leans heavily into coombait, so I don't know if they will have an issue with male interaction considering they are not marketing purity or GFE.

>Production Kawaii
0 male interactions on stream, except for one girl who sometimes does big collabs where there might be some guys mixed in, that's the only exception. That's actually regulated, it's all in their rules. No 1 on 1 male on stream, but the big collab option is ok.
They had one member who interacted with guys on her chat on stream but she's gone now.
They have rebranded into an idol company, so its a good bet.

>Tsunderia
Formally dead

>Prism Project
I have no fucking idea

>AkioAIR
No idea

>> No.48008843

>>47967219
Vshojo is where it’s at.

>> No.48009847

>>48007471
You watch all those indie companies?

>> No.48009950

Collab frequency has not increased recently for either company.

>> No.48012329

>>48007471
Prism used to be a Hololive replica but after the Sony acquisition the rules have loosened. There have been a few 1 on 1 male collabs but all of the men so far have been gay as fuck and usually from another small corp, with a few larger collabs with men mixed in.

>> No.48012365

>>48012329
Ah fuck, forgot the name after clowning on the retard in another thread.

>> No.48012410

>>47967219
>idols
Where is their singing, dancing and 3D concerts then? Only Kawaii is planning on going this route.

>> No.48012508

Are you so ascared of boys that you're wanting """"Purity"""""
You do know she's not going to fuck you.

>> No.48014698

>>48004184
Technically, but in a way that doesn't really change anything. Wouldn't surprise me if it's for tax purposes.

>> No.48014844

>>47999319
small corpo:
>streams
>drama
>no big events
>SOVL
big corpo:
>tfw no streams
>still drama but bigger because more people care about it
>big events
>professionalism
I basically only tune in to the majors for the big events and produced content. Drama is everywhere and it's 90% the fans' fault anyway.

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>>48007471
>Hololive are idols
>he fell for it

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>>48007471
>idol
>no male collabs
Their Kronii collabed with a 2 view male for a valorant stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfZEzVTC-k8

>> No.48016582

>>47967219
>more smaller
>Tsunderia

>> No.48017198

>>47967219
My oshi's agency is not an idol company. Also, don't watch them and stick to your Hololive and Nijisanji slop instead. Thank you.

>> No.48020678

>>48012329
Gay as fuck doesn't really change them being males.
See Finana and Pomu collab ruined by Uki

>> No.48025078

>>48020678
Okay

>> No.48025098

>>47967219
>Alternative idol companies
this thread is gay as hell but now i unironically want an alternative idol (in the /jp/ sense of the phrase) chuuba

>> No.48026840

>>47967219
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>> No.48026911

>>48012508
Nobody likes sloppy seconds.

>> No.48027111

>>47967219
Buy an ad kike

>> No.48028887

>>48007471
Good post.

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>>48012410
Lumi does that and more. She’s kind of the gold standard for western idols.

>> No.48034555

>>47967219
Why isn’t vshojo on the list? They’re pretty big and some of their girls are idol-tier.

>> No.48034758

>>48031252
She's literally yellow Veibae

>> No.48034847

Shilling out of control recently

>> No.48035132

>>48015264
Why must it always be the one with big tits

>> No.48036368

>>48034758
That just means she's Veibae but without the baggage.

>> No.48038812

>>48036368
Do you even know who is Veibae

>> No.48041465

>>48038812
I don't need to. Since Lumi is a pure woman.

>> No.48043280

>>47967219
>Yura
>>>>all of whom have pure idols that don't talk to men in the slightest
https://twitter.com/YuraRikudou/status/1617813305346912259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlDniuh_U8A
Great thread OP

>> No.48045194

>>48043280
Anon, you do know that Japanese idols do the same, and it’s only for the money, right? Yura would never collab with a man on her own volition.

>> No.48046813

>>48043280
Is that all she has done? I remember when she debuted she leaned heavily on GFE but sort of toned that down over time.
I've heard some resentment towards her that could hint at something bad she might have done, but I don't know.
A song with a male is not ideal but it's not a big game breaker either, it's a formal music production and idols can interact with men on that context.
If that guy was crashing her streams, showing up in her chat, and she was constantly bringing him up that'd be a completely different story. But a song ? That's not a big deal.

>> No.48047167

>>48046813
She wanted to focus on music and gaming and felt that people didn't take her seriously and only talked about GFE. So she went a different direction and has been a joy to watch. I watched her since debut and am still enjoying her streams and content. Like you said, the male interaction isn't a problem when the vtuber herself doesn't even market herself as GFE. Does idol larping and is the only one in her company that does 3D lives for birthdays and anniversary. Yura is a cutie, so give her a try if you love JRPGs and music. There's one schizo that goes around trying to spread misinformation though.

>> No.48047261

>>48043280
Anon doesn't know that his pure hololive idols do duets with males and collab with them too.

>> No.48048631

>>48047167
Wow that's great to hear.
I loved her song with Pikamee and I've seen her 3D model and all the stuff she's been doing, she seems very serious and active.
Tho I check her CCV sometimes and it's not very high, overall Prism seems to be lower than the other small corpo now.

>> No.48049780

>>48046813
>If that guy was crashing her streams, showing up in her chat, and she was constantly bringing him up that'd be a completely different story
I have bad news anon

>> No.48050157

>>48049780
Oh nyo, spill it how bad is it?

>> No.48050377

>>48047167
>and only talked about GFE
>Like you said, the male interaction isn't a problem when the vtuber herself doesn't even market herself as GFE
No one is buying the historical revisionism. She was GFE
Literally promised to not cuck her fans
Cucked them with a dozens of male collabs, skipping weeks of streaming to play ark and rust with males, deciding to not intially release the cendrillion cover back in early 2022 after getting reactions to the art and changing her mind 6 months later
Former fans don't like her because of it. That's not misinformation

>> No.48050482

>>48050157
Learning a whole language to make half your content male collabs

>> No.48050747

>>48050377
>>48050482
Well this is a completely different picture lmao.

>> No.48052228

>>48050747
Shiki, Nia, and Yura herself are /here/
They run damage control anytime someone shittalks Yura for baiting in the GFE audience and then cucking them with her totally not discord boyfriend that flirts with her on stream
It got so bad at one point a male she collabed with cried to her over /ppg/ shitpost so she started a guerilla zatsu to angery rant at her fans about it. It continued for an hour until Shiki and Pina called her on discord to calm her down. Yura's as menhera as it gets

>> No.48052288

>>48050747
The schizo is going strong. Just scroll through her vods. She's half Japanese, half Chinese and learnt Japanese to talk to the whole circle of new friends. But this anonchama only focuses on Males. She literally has Japanese with more females and like what... Two males? That's less than any holo

>> No.48052374

>>48052228
Calm now. Go find another girl to watch if you are so angry. No need to lie

>> No.48052402

>>47967219
Tsunderia had males, Prism collabs with males, Idol Corp is idols in name only, EIEN is the coomer company, Kawaii is gfe with idol 3d models, AkioAIR...I stopped paying attention after Roa left so I couldn't tell you.
>phase connect
>idols
lmao

>> No.48052551

>>48052228
You do know. Rita, Sara, Non, Shiki, Nia, Naki, all collabed with males from Prism right? Shiki literally collabed with the same guys so many times. Same with Nia. Dont see you going menhera over them. Conveniently leaving out the other girls and just dog pilling on one? That's some anti shit.

>> No.48052801

>>48048631
Yea Prism generally doesn't do very well but Yura is one of their top girls. Shiki is a great singer and is their number one in numbers but she too barely gets 200 ccv

>> No.48052872

>>48052551
Rita, Sara, Non, Shiki, Nia, and Naki didn't promise
>I will graduate before getting a boyfriend. I will never make you feel that way
and then do nothing but male collabs and skipping streams to play fotm openworld survival games with males

>> No.48053111

>>48052872
>streams 2 streams a day.
>streams 3-5 hours per stream
>recently said she will never get into a relationship
>schizo says she's lying
>no males on streams since the last 7 months
>did a Twitter space saying she's lonely and wants to talk to chat

Which part of the promise did she break? Her RM is still single. Her vtuber openly talks about being single JUST recently.

>> No.48053255

>>48052872
Did you literally think she got a boyfriend from a song collab bro?

>> No.48053355

>>48053111
I looked at Yura's channel. All her covers are mostly self- made... Does smol corpo not have budget?

>> No.48053520

>>48053355
Only prism. PRISM got the short end of the stick of the corpo game

>> No.48053719

>>48053111
7 months of fulfilling that promise to try to not make her fans feel cucked doesn't erase the first year of her vtuber career ignoring it

>> No.48054000

>>48053719
She was only playing Ark for 4 months. Not a year. Said she felt burnt out and the only way she was able to distract herself was playing survival games. The server she is on, just happens to have males. I hope you don't discredit her hardwork over this. Great singer, hard worker. You can't deny that part of her right? And look, she's working hard right now and that's all that should matter instead of holding onto some male collabs 7 months ago.

>> No.48054102

>>48053255
do you need the links to the 100 hours worth of vods of them playing games together on stream?

>> No.48055215

>>48054000
>I hope you don't discredit her hardwork over this. Great singer, hard worker. You can't deny that part of her right?
I won't deny it. It's the worst part of Yura.
She's wasted potential the vtuber
She has all the perfect skills, talents, and everything you could wish for in a vtuber. She also has all the worst traits in a vtuber. She's spiteful, is in constant cycle daily content spam for 2 weeks followed a month of burnout, and admitted her main motivation for becoming a vtuber was just to get friends to play games with
Sure she may have turned it around and that may not be the case anymore but it doesn't change that being a yuragumi before then fucking sucked. No one likes being dragged through yab after yab and having to copium overdose like that
You can blame Yura for making a stupid promise she shouldn't have or blame captain for trying to push all the GFE shit when he was still running things but don't deny it happening

>> No.48056257

>>48055215
I understand and if you felt this hurt by it. Wouldn't it be better to just let her go? Holding on like this doesn't feel good too right? She was burnt out and she felt bad about it too. She's doing great now and is still the same cute hard-working girl from when she started, things just got rough in the middle. You never know what a vtuber personal life might be and she did say she was so stressed out by life that she just became unhappy and didnt know what to do. So if you can, just let go of the hatred or try watching her a little bit again. She might surprise you.

>> No.48056561

>>48056257
I FORGIVE YURA
I FORGIVE YURA
I FORGIVE YURA
I FORGIVE YURA
but I'm not watching her again. She fucked up my heart to much and I like my new oshi more

>> No.48059783

>>48056561
She deserves a second chance.

>> No.48059950

>>47967219
Small corpos are more fun but you phrased this like a cringe shillpost.

>> No.48060127

>>48059783
I gave her like a dozen second chances when I still watched her. Me thinks no

>> No.48061838

>>48052228
Wow that's nuts, and pretty funny.
I like menhera girls but one like this that only NTR's her fans, no thanks.
She can have her personal private life off stream but the moment she has the guy on her streams and her chat and plays with him that's no longer "personal and private" matter anymore.
The damage control does seem legit tho, even on this thread I see many posts that seem to be desperately trying to downplay the situation or do the usual thing of delegitimizing the messenger.
Pretty interesting shit. I can see why I had that impression of her.

>> No.48062070

>>48055215
>admitted her main motivation for becoming a vtuber was just to get friends to play games with
This isn't a bad motive.
>>48053111
>no males on streams since
Already failed to convince anyone with this.

>> No.48064217

>>48060127
Anon, she made mistakes, but she deserves a chance to make amends.

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>>48064217
Only a fool would give a woman more than a single chance. Any more than is just asking for it.

>> No.48065440

>>48062070
It's not a bad motive in and of itself but in the seemingly endless sea of vtubers now why settle for one that's just streams to play games with her friends when you could watch one that streams because she wants to stream for (You)
Especially in small corpo/indie vtubing where that's one of the main draws

>> No.48066287

>>48064217
nah but I'm curious if inukirito is still spamming her chat with enough messages that he has to have 5 alt accounts all getting shadow banned for what youtube thinks is bot spam?

>> No.48067093

>>47967219
skill issue, go fuck yourself.. I'm only here for the kino

>> No.48068014

>>48059950
They have more soul you mean.

>> No.48068735

>>48065440
>>48061838
https://twitter.com/YuraRikudou/status/1644263832293117952
do you want to believe an anti that admitted to having not watch her for 7 months (She debuted for 1.5 years now) or someone who actually does watch her? Her main motivation is to get on stage and sing.

>> No.48070321

>>47968347
Great timing

>> No.48071303

>>48068735
I didn't think she had any antis.

>> No.48072931

>>48064481
You have to give them a chance to redeem themselves, anon. Don't be selfish.

>> No.48073628

>>48068735
>do you want to believe the guy that said specifics or a fan that just said she's good
>in a shill thread

>> No.48074180

>>48073628
>>in a shill thread
What shill thread? This thread is about discussing alternative idol companies.

>> No.48074592

>>47967219
>Production Kawaii, Phase Connect, EIEN Project, AkioAIR, Tsunderia, Prism Project, Idol Corp
All impregnation-collabed with me btw

>> No.48075151

>>47967219
>Tsunderia
They are dead.

>>48007471
Great rundown. As mentioned in the thread, idol is a mixed bag of people that want the cgdct audience and people that don't give a fuck, much like HoloEN.
About Prism, I would say many of them actively avoid catering to unicorns due to bad experiences with parasocial schizos. Their biggest GFE streamer Yura now collabs wiith males

>> No.48075759

>>47967219
>Yura

>> No.48075847

>>47997270
she was a pure idol before she met kson

>> No.48076395

>>48075847
More like Kson let her be comfortable being herself so the clubbing party slut didn't try made the worst vtuber content possible for 9 months

>> No.48076577

>my 2 and 3views not noticed
thank god
stay in your gay cages

>> No.48077393

>>48075759
Nothing Wrong with Yura.

>> No.48078394

Prism is the cuck project for a reason

>> No.48078449

>shitty catalog bait thread about small corpos right after prism gen 5 announced
>gets dominated with prism talk

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