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Vtubers will lose all market value in English speaking countries by 2025. Mori's and Kronii's lackluster sales isn't karma from unicorn fans. It's a sign of EN's general decline. Just like how PreConne and other Japanese gacha games are pulling out of the West, vtuber companies will do the same soon. Moe-style goods just don't sell well outside of EA/SEA markets. The only English-speaking vtubers left will be indies in a niche community.

>> No.47816991

>>47816858
As a mainstream attraction? Yeah, probably.

Right now, it's just the flavor of the month that normies are curious about. But, the normies will move on in due time.

It will always have value as a niche market for weebs, though.

>> No.47817066

>>47816858
there will probably be more non-anime vtubers in the future

>> No.47817127

>>47816858
Burning bridges always end like that, at least there could be newbie companies who can learn from this

>> No.47817136

>>47816858
Dude it's like $100 shipping cost.

>> No.47820624

>>47816858
>Vtubers will lose all market value in English speaking countries by 2025.
LETS GO NEUROOOOOOOOO-SAMAA

>> No.47821972

>>47816858
Where did the narrative that Mori's sales are bad even come from? Every time she's talked about merch or album sales stuff, it's always how she ended up smashing UMG's expectations, and the blu-ray is apparently doing really well, too. She's pushing it so hard because it'll get her extra goodies for her next sololive, which was confirmed immediately after the first one.
I mean, you guys watch streams here, right?

>> No.47822331

>>47821972
Probably that one stream where she thought she had to pay double taxes and anons just rolled with it thinking she's a poorfag because of double taxes.

>> No.47822532

>>47821972
Because she keeps begging people to buy the blu-ray, it's hard to ignore. OP is right though, Japanese vtuber EN branches were in the shitter long before le heckin tempiss boogeyman because they are fucking boring. Unlike bugmen, humans can only watch girls do the same thing over and over while jumping through management hoops to do any sort of novel content before you finally just check out.

>> No.47822614

>>47816991
What normies do you think are watching vtubers?

>> No.47822701

>>47816991
>Right now, it's just the flavor of the month that normies are curious about. But, the normies will move on in due time.
2020chama...

>> No.47822766

>>47816858
As someone who plays Japanese gachas, they always do this. Find out what games a decent amount of western are playing, launch an EN localization, milk the whales as long as they can, then shut down support when profitability drops off.

>> No.47822884

>>47822532
More homobeggar cope it was always bad. Gura broke the sales record in June-July 2022. Gura only had 1 sub 10k ccv stream in 2022 compared to 3 in 2021. Her latest figure outsold Miku and matched pekora’s $1700 figure. Fauna is doing much better than before. Ina doesn’t seem to have any changes. So where’s their decline?

>> No.47822975

>>47822884
Fauna has 4k viewers right at this moment and Gura merch always sells. Everyone else gets the same views as they were pre-tempus, and apparently they're doing bad.

>> No.47823046

>>47822884
If Fauna collabed with Tempus or Eddy maybe she'd be able to get double her numbers on random kusoge like Kronii

>> No.47823122

>>47816858
The general EN vtuber market is still declining but will likely stabilize by late 2023 or early 2024. Still big enough for everyone in holoEN to have custom merch but with a higher percentage of casual fans. The EN members probably will start to consider shipping costs when designing merch.

>> No.47823189

>>47822884
Isn’t 2022 also when Gura stopped streaming? Rarity buff is a thing, you know. And it’s already well-understood that Fauna inclined because she’s consistent. As in, she kept streaming while everyone else was flaking out. I genuinely don’t know about Ina, although my first instinct is also rarity buff since she started streaming less in 2022 as well. But I might be wrong on that last one.
Look. I think the idea that HoloEN is “dying” is overexaggerated, but suggesting 2022 was somehow better for them than 2021 is so stupid it beggars belief.

>> No.47823227

>>47816858
Princess Connect failed because CrunchyRoll is a shit company. Other gatcha games are still growing.

>> No.47823390

>>47816858
Yes it is karma from unicorn fans, everyone else is doing fine, you’re just coping

>> No.47825399

>>47823390
>The trannycorn is a numberfag
As usual. Hiding behind misinterpreted numbers just to gaslight and push an agenda like a Twittard.

>> No.47826139

>>47816858
The Priconne shutdown is suspicious, they had just pushed out a big app update a few weeks before the announcement with references to future content datamined, and all of the sudden they say it's shutting down in a month when every other gacha EoS gives at least a 2 month notice. There's speculation that Cygames pulled the license after Crunchyroll rigged the gacha in Street Fighter Duel

>> No.47826224

>>47816858
and other hilarious things Kson said

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>>47816858
Tempiss killed all interest in the EN male market when they flopped, taking Mori and Troonii down with them.

>> No.47827960

>>47822532
Do you think Suisei is unsuccessful because she's such an unrepentant shill? Mori specifically cited Suisei and Kiara as her model for how hard she wants to push the blu-ray. please exercise critical thinking

>> No.47829293

So when did "She is shilling so it must be selling bad" become part of the shitposting script? JPs corpo vtubers have shilled like crazy from the start and it's about time EN started putting in work to shill their stuff too.

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>>47816858

>Kronii and Calli

Dude just be open about being a salty concern troll because they dare collab with Holostars

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>>47816858
>the money goes away
>the pandering goes away
>the only vtubers left are the ones that are in it because they actually enjoy streaming
>the only fans left are the ones that actually care about their oshis
Explain to me how this would in any way be a bad thing. Sounds to me like it's just culling the chaff and leaving the wheat.

>> No.47831097

>>47822532
>OP is right though, Japanese vtuber EN branches were in the shitter long before le heckin tempiss boogeyman because they are fucking boring. Unlike bugmen, humans can only watch girls do the same thing over and over while jumping through management hoops to do any sort of novel content before you finally just check out.
Guess why Pippa is inclining upward like mad and becoming one of the most popular vtubers despite being from a smaller company with low marketing. She actually steams interesting content. The shock!
>>47827960
Suisei can hardly be called "unsuccessful." She may not be a world-famous name but she's doing well for herself and will continue to do well for the forseeable future because she works hard and puts out content that her fans like.

>> No.47831616

>>47827960
BTW STREAM SPARKS

>> No.47831645

>>47831097
>interesting content
That sure is a lot of reacting to YouTube videos/TikTok

>> No.47838302

>>47822975
>Everyone else gets the same views as they were pre-tempus, and apparently they're doing bad.
>nearly a year later and they're still/just now re-reaching pre-Tempus numbers
Tempus caused, at worst, decline that set some of them a year back, or, at best, stagnation for a year.
How the fuck are we supposed to not think this is bad?

>> No.47843224

>>47831097
Pippa is literally doing what everyone already does on Twitch but in Youtube, which is react content. Hell, at least Twitch people mix it up a bit by playing video games.

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>> No.47852634

>>47826798
NijiEN gamers will fix it

>> No.47852796

>>47816858
And here comes the astroturfing from the locusts that are the faggots trannies and Homobeggars. They came in and pillaged the fuck out of the hobby and now that they're satisfied they're leaving and blaming it on everything but then and their bullshit nobody asked for.

>> No.47856872

>>47816991
>flavor of the month
>it's been three years

>> No.47858158

>>47826798
The introduction of Tempus was a disaster for HoloEN
It made me fall out of love with my oshi which in turn made me lose most of my interest in hololive overall
t. former kronie

>> No.47860831

>>47858158
Mind sharing your experience anon? No pressure.

>> No.47861124

>>47816858
If that's true, why do the Jews want to spend 6x the normal budget debuting their EN2?
https://blog.idol-company.com/idol-weekly-6

>> No.47862057

>>47816858
>The only English-speaking vtubers left will be indies in a niche community.
And you will be happy

>> No.47863240

>>47843224
Dumbass

>> No.47863540

>>47822614
VShojo fans mostly.

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