vtDJT - /vt/'s Daily Japanese Thread #2

[Anonymous No.]

vtDJT is a language learning thread for anons on /vt/ that are studying the japanese language.
Discussion will appertain to vtubers where possible, as per the boards rules. But, understandably, the study of japanese can extend into many different areas.

Guide & Materials:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

JP Vtuber Clipping Channels:
https://pastebin.com/PjNSSwTE


Previous Thread:
>>47610999
>>/vt/thread/47610999

[Anonymous No.]

>>47663707
>>/vt/thread/47610999#p47651188
I think Cure dolly is way better than Tae Kim especially for logical explanation
For example he explained that the が(ga) particule doesn't indicate the subject but something he called "indentifier" which makes Japanese very unlogical

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>>47664123
>he

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>>47664269
Tae Kim is a woman ?

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>>47664269
>>47664363
Not with that 家内joke, impossible.

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>>47664269
I think he's talking about Tae Kim. Curedolly is a woman (and dead).

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>>47663707
Oh it's already made, cool.

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>>47664632
Yeah I was talking about Tae Kim. Very unfortunate that Cure dolly died though

[Anonymous No.]

Hoping that it won't get deleted by the jannies this time

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>>47664909
The irony that meidos delete a thread that's constructive, harmless and gives a gateway for people to enjoy more vtubers. But have no issue doing nothing about the endless bait threads on the catalog. It's actually senseless kek. They could argue there are other threads like this elsewhere on the site. But that doesn't mean they always accept people that talk about learning via vtubers (actively frowned upon in some of those threads), and it also means there's one less shit throwing doxx/bait/falseflaggging thread clogging up the catalogue.

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>>47663707

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>>47663707
I believe in the betterment of this board, take my bump.

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There is 2 threads so one of them should die
I think we should take this one because you made it first

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>>47663707
This board is too fast for such a thread to survive.
Better to remain in slow board like /jp/

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>>47669541
Probably true. But oh well. A thread like this that lasts 3-4 hours max is still better than a thread that spunks up the board with dramafags.

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Unironically what was the reason to delete the last thread ?

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>>47669541
It was surviving perfectly well yesterday before it got jannied.
>>47670750
God knows, it happened during SEA hours.

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Bump

[Anonymous No.]

Be sure to do your reps today anon. You wouldn't want WaniKani-san to scold, berate, and possibly punish you.

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>>47670750
Janny probably getting pissy about the semantics of where these threads belong. They'll probably force DJT to stay in /jp/ even though there are plenty of boards where this thread overlaps and can be of use.

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>>47674771
Anki is good too for kanji

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>>47664123

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>>47674872
Discussing vtubers in that DTJ can sometimes get you a "Go back to your containment thread" reply, and on /int/ it certainly will. Unfortunately jannies don't know this. So before they think of going trigger happy I should advise them to first prioritise enforcing Global Rule #3 here and /vt/'s Rule #3 as well.

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As for learning. Here's a vtuber I discovered a while back that reads through Yotsuba chapters and explains each part of the grammar/vocab:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdHHGWN-_bM

[Anonymous No.]

一番好きなvtuberは誰ですか?
僕が一番好きなvtuberはぺこらです。毎日配信して頑張ってるし面白いし、それに彼女はとってもかわいいと思います。

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>>47676490
>ぺこら
>頑張ってる

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>>47676680
自殺しろ

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>>47676490
一番好きなvtuberはフブキでも推しはおかゆ。説明が出来ない。
フブキの配信は一番面白いけどおかゆの成長がすごく魅惑的かな。

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>>47676490
最初から俺の推しはマリン船長だろぉ。船長は素敵な人だし話も面白いし声が好きだし、本当に尊敬しててでも船長はずっとあたしそんなに良くないと思ってる事が嫌だ

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>>47676490
私が一番好きなvtuberはボタンです。彼女の冷静が格好いいです。ともに、とてもかわいいと思います。
(I have only been studying for 1.5 months, so please forgive me if this makes no sense.)

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How do you write kanji and kana on your keyboard? Is there an app for it?

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>>47678686
Do you think Japs have an app to write Japanese ?
Anyway if you are on windows you go on settings, search language and add Japanese keyboard and if you are on your phone it's something similar
Then you select Japanese keyboard and you write something in romaji and it will transform in kana for example はる then on a pc you press the spacebar and different kanji will appear so choose the good one and on a phone there is a touch with "変換" written on it.

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>>47678686
Windows has it. Search for "windows ime japanese how to setup" on google and it will help you out.

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>>47663707
>キアラ
くそ糸

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I'm not very good but I will try to correct some of your post
>>47676490
>僕が一番好きなvtuberはぺこらです
が is for the subject so it should be on vtuber and 僕 is not the subject of your sentence so but the topic so は, and 彼女 is not really used in that case you can just repeat ぺこら also it is very formal for a post on an imageboard
>>47678599
It's good especially if you know all the kanji you used but there is exactly the same issue as the other post (also Botan is written ぼたん if you write it ボタン people might think you are talking about button)

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>>47674771
I enjoy wanikani but it's really frustrating every mnemonic or "tip" under kanji or vocabulary is "you learned this before, so you should know it!"
Oh kk great, thanks.

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>>47680633
I could post some of my wanikani mnemonics for you, if you like? Depending on the kanji since I only ever got to level 29 though.

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>>47680633
I don't mind that so much as I hate when they don't bother to come up with mnemonics to help memorize special reading cases/exceptions for certain vocab, like ones that use a mix of both on/kun readings or rendakus. They pretty much just tell you to go fuck yourself by saying "you're just going to have to try and remember this one time exception".
That's why a lot of people just use WK for the Kanji and less so for the vocab. It's always 50/50 on whether or not they phone in a vocab lesson.

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so what's been a good JP stream in recent memory?
i wanted to watch koro's AC brotherhood after AC2 but i guess that's not happened yet

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>>47680231
Thank you for the feedback. If it is not too much of a hassle could you or someone else in the thread give me an example of how to make what I said less formal? As I stated, I am quite new to Japanese and only really know how to make formal statements.

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>>47680851
Only 29 huh? Well I'm on level 8 so I'm sure that would be fine

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>>47681243
You use normal form of the verb instead of the formal form and replace word by less formal synonym so 格好いい with カッコいい and とても with すごく for example

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>>47681166
I liked Marine's VA auditions

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>>47681443
これは役に立つ、ありがとう

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>>47682059

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I sincerely hope this thread survives, it is great to have a place for Japanese learners with similar interests to converse.

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>>47665586
wdym? we totally need another niji vs holo thread anon

[Anonymous No.]

this is koyote!
her words per minute cant be beat!

[Anonymous No.]

it's over for me...

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>>47685084
Kek. I was in a similar position too. Ever since then I've always turned on holiday mode on the weekends.

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>>47685511
nta but I didn't know that option existed.... Maybe I can finally catch up

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>>47664123
should I bother reading tae kim then?

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>>47686471
its useless!
just listen more/google whatever grammar stumps you when it does

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>>47686471
if you haven't already absorbed N5 japanese ability from anime or whatever then you might as well read it. it's still useful

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I love the ebb and flow of all 4chan recommendations.
A year ago DJT would have made fun of you for using anything other than Tae Kim. Now Tae Kim is cringe.
The grammar hasn't even changed either, it's all the same as its ever been. Tae Kim is just too mainstream now.

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>>47690001
its more that people have advanced more

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>>47690001
with amateur hobbyists its always the blind leading the blind. There may be a few people with actual good advice, but that good advice doesn't necessarily apply to everyone in the first place.

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Would you guys recommend Cure Dolly for a beginner?

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>>47695638
If you can get over the fact that it's a dude talking with a chipmunk filter on yeah it's very good. I couldn't do it.