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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
/#/ is declining
Okay now Ollie please leave so I can actually enjoy Mumei.
>>47620953>read image >Mori/Milky music “milestone”: 50k>turn 360 and walk away That’s not a milestone
lemaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtQZoiv1ekM
No but really though how the fuck do you sit in the server that long and never see that ugly ass tree
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>122,091: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>50,531: Subaru (Hololive)>36,491: Pekora (Hololive)>24,573: Suisei (Hololive)>22,078: Korone (Hololive)>17,993: Kanata (Hololive)>17,252: Koyori (Hololive)>16,667: Gura (Hololive)>16,134: Ui (Indie)>15,796: Chiroru (Indie)>15,464: Lauren (Nijisanji)>15,189: Koyori (Hololive)>14,329: Watame (Hololive)>13,356: Botan (Hololive)>13,264: Towa (Hololive)>12,449: Fauna (Hololive)>11,962: Koyori (Hololive)>11,178: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>11,036: Furen (Nijisanji)>10,984: Mito (Nijisanji)>10,607: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>>47621230Honestly surprised it got that much
>Kiara and Ollie scissored each other in front of other ID\Not surprising desu
>>47621286>APRIL 2023 GOLDS1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240 - Apex VSaikyo 5 final scrims15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,037 - Apex VSaikyo 5 tournament16) Pekora (Hololive) - 244,788 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament17) Miko (Hololive) - 55,500 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Nene & Mel18) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 122,091 - Host outfit 3D reveal>PER COMPANY9x: Hololive5x: Nijisanji3x: Neo Porte1x: Indie>PER STREAMER3x: Hal, Miko, Pekora1x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Korone, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen, Salome, Toya>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY80x: Hololive19x: Nijisanji4x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: VSPO>PER STREAMER30x: Pekora9x: Marine7x: Miko5x: Toya4x: Hal, Subaru3x: Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei2x: Chiroru, Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Iroha, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Salome, Shion, Watame, Yashiro
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>4/18 DAILY TALLY16,667: Gura (Hololive)12,449: Fauna (Hololive)6,579: Mori (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered4) Mori (Hololive) - 24,195 - Birthday Stream5) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,994 - Minecraft6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 13,826 - Birthday Karaoke7) Kronii (Hololive) - 21,845 - Uno (w/ Mori, Magni, Vesper)8) Selen (Nijisanji) - 23,498 - PuyoPuyo Tetris 2 Tournament9) Mumei (Hololive) - 43,634 - Outfit Reveal10) Kiara (Hololive) - 15,972 - Easter Collab11) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,199 - Minecraft12) Kronii (Hololive) - 10,504 - Minecraft13) Mumei (Hololive) - 9,986 - CouncilRyS RPG14) Kronii (Hololive) - 11,753 - 2.0 Reveal15) Gura (Hololive) - 19,449 - Choo Choo Charles16) Baelz (Hololive) - 27,878 - Outfit Reveal17) Gura (Hololive) - 17,691 - Choo Choo Charles18) Gura (Hololive) - 16,667 - Baldi's Basics>PER COMPANY16x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Kronii3x: Baelz, Gura2x: Mori, Mumei1x: Sonny, Selen, Kiara, Fauna>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)21p: Kronii, Baelz19p: Mumei, Fauna15p: Mori, Gura12p: Luca9p: Kiara8p: Sonny7p: Selen3p: Ina, Vox, Kotoka, Mysta1p: Axel, Amelia, Elira, IRyS
>>47621339Hot. This is me watching
>>47621409Niji can you please pick up the pace so there can at least be 5 entries on here....
>>47621409>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY77x: Hololive29x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER11x: Mori9x: Baelz, Gura8x: IRyS, Mumei7x: Amelia, Fauna, Kronii6x: Vox, Ina4x: Kiara3x: Mysta, Pomu, Shu, Selen1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)95p: Fauna77p: Mumei76p: Baelz72p: Mori66p: IRyS62p: Ina56p: Vox54p: Amelia45p: Gura43p: Mysta, Kronii40p: Kiara38p: Luca25p: Selen17p: Shu16p: Pomu11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny9p: Millie, Enna, Ike8p: Finana7p: Regis, Elira6p: Rosemi, Ren5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English4p: Vesper, Fulgur3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina
>>47621409Nice Joke anon, now post the rest of the tally. .....There is more, right?....RIGHT?!
>>47621230
GRIM
Mumei about to join VC.
>>47621258Clearly an idol.Kaela can't stream so she makes million shorts. Bless.
>>47621230But it is, most vsingers I follow don't have that many views on their most popular songs
>>47621409So this is why Nijiniggers were shitting up the last thread, huh?
>>47621519>10 days to reach 500kits unironically over
>>47621519Hmm. According to my math that is at least 10 50’s more than 50,000
>20M views in 1 weekSuisei cover when?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRtdQ81jPUQ
>>47621519no wonder she did not take her break KEK
>>47621519that much copium must be harmful
>>47621682Mori would first
>>47621665It's a cover, nothing special. That's actually pretty good.
>>47621488Over half of NijiEN's golds were in January and required half of HoloEN dead. What's the point of this tally again?
>>47621682They really should be pushing to have covers done ASAP while the song is still hot
>>47621739Lilas would mog Mori's brapper ass any day of the weekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMwtgK5RqE&t=317s
I never knew I would see the day were Mumei is more debuff than Ollie...Or Kiara is out of the council box
>>47621868>What's the point of this tally again?To keep nijiniggers honest. I guarantee you the second it disappears they'll start blatantly lying about their numbers again.
>Leaves VC>Mumei joins>CCV dropsApologize to the BUFF zombie.
>>47621942the stream doesn't have OPEN VC plastered all over it
>gura will join kira>brown gura joins instead
>>47621942More like the few indogs that like Ollie have left.
>>47621519Slowly but surely she sinks to obscurity and I love it
Debuffmei...
>>47621991Oliie would definetely be a beast on bed but she would break your ears due to her constant screaming being unable to process her emotions.
>>47621519The UMG contract and its consequences.
>>47616771I suppose I should applaud the effort...But the fact of the matter is, barring maybe 2 or 3 of them, the homos have never been that entertaining.Almost every single one of the Hololive girls have SOMETHING that makes them unique, Pekora's pranks, Subaru's tsukkomi, Miko's anime level comedy, Kanata's chat bantz, Fubuki and Marine being the queens of old internet otaku, Marine having really good chat power as well, Aqua being gamer maid + inkya, Okayu being fatto gatto sexo, Miosha being comfy yet breedable, Lui and Towa having unique voices with Towa having an additional cute buff + FPS player buff, Iroha being one of the few bastions of seiso left in the company, Sora and Ayame being ultra cute in COMPLETELY different ways etc. etc. etc.Those that don't have much uniqueness naturally have lower numbers, but they're still "cute anime girls" at the end of the day, which - combined with them being part of the Holobox - inherently adds some baseline value to them.Homos have -> Roberu : God of chemistry, good bantz with literally anyone he's paired with> Astel : Good at FPS and creeping out everyone he meets.> Gamma : God tier artist with a bit of gamer cred and a decent streamer.> Vesper : Good at chatting, good at some games.> Magni : Good at pre-recorded content, dogshit at improv> Bettel : Good at farming money I guess.You can see, the points that they have are all things that established fleshstreamers EXCEL at.They have no inherent "cute anime girl" buff because they cannot aim in both the "male" as well as "female" audiences at once. Or maybe they could, but none of them have shown any sort of skill in doing so.Homos have been around for more than two years without any drastic changes.Individual homos may get inclines occasionally e.g. Astel, Gamma etc. but the "Box" as a whole is pathetically weak because they have no "identity" that's their own.I dunno why he thinks that's gonna change now.
I expected more viewers after moomi joined not less
>>47621991>BUFF>zombie.She gets mogged by HomoEN2 on an almost daily basis... these levels of copium is unreal
>>47621409>Stream>Get medal Remember when people used to say cripple tally is more interesting than global tally and more competitive?
>>47621942>no open VC on the titleThere's your answer anon
>>47621981As we know from history and the JP tally. Damn you're right.
>>47622159It’s like 1-4pm in the US. It’s proven time and time again that Euros are the Homobeggars so of course Ollie would be a bigger buff than Mumei
>>47622159How would Mumei's audience know that she is there?
>>47622155stars fans are the same group of people that need to be reminded over and over again to leave a comment on VODs and leave a like on their streams. Even if they were to get a miracle streamer in their hands their own fans wont allow them the visibility they need to succeed (fans as in the ones that only watch the boys, not the shit stirring beggars that ruin chats)
>>47622185>more interesting than global tally and more competitiveThat was because half of HoloEN was practically dead. That was the only way NijiCN was able to be competitive.
>>47620528Mumei tries to sing Hololive songs, city pop shark is her nickname but she’s sung almost every members original songs, kiara did it the last time I watched her sing but I don’t remember how long ago.For the reading impaired I mean at least one original per member in some cases 3 or 4
>>47621991In all seriousness Ollie being a debuff is a meme. she probably brought around 1k SEAs to Kiara stream. She can get 4k in solo Minecraft.
>>47622159who?
>>47622177She got 2k and 4k in her last 2 streams respectively, stop lying homo shill.
The ideas that you can trigger a second holo boom for homos is hilarious. Homobeggers know a FACT: leeching hololive might not work, but its the only thing that COULD workIt's WHY they have the numbers they do. Make no mistake, Hololive association has helped grant them visibility. It can't do wonders, just like if you were friends with the president of USA you wouldn't automatically have power, but it does grant scraps of notoriety they could never gain on their own.
Shitrys
So how the view growth of this cover compare to some of the fastest growing Niji covers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG8K7Z5gaTI
>>47622400i mean is ramadhan some people on ID still awake to do sahoor even zeta still holding 1.5k at this hours
>>47621811Now this is pretty good but when she did the fotm cover it was look she’s not reclining.
There is literally no reason why at Ina's timeslot a minecraft stream with Mumei in it shouldn't be at least 9k. Kiara is ridiculous.
>>47622680Kiara's voice is a debuff. thats it
>>47622680Gura might join
>>47621942Kiara gets a bigger buff from non holos ignore the copers blaming no open VC. It’s fucking minecraft
rape material
>>476212866-14 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
What was Kiara’s CCV before Ollie joined?
>>47622400People really come to the numbers thread to lie
>>47622785https://twitter.com/dikkosan/status/1644163522065231873
>>47622680I don't understand how people are still surprised by this even after 2.5 years.Kiara is like Matsuri who has been outside the general EN box since her first 2 months.
should've waited for Kaela to log in you dumb chiken
>>47622744Not gonna do anything. Need I remind people Kiara was playing FE in NA timezone and Gura/Ina joined her room and started talking it did not move the CCV at all?
>>47622744You don't know the rules? Whenever Gura says she ''''might'''' join or do anything, that's as good as a no it won't happen.
>>476228067kish
>>47622866She actually asked Kaela first for the tour but she said she is on a break and can't join VC
>>47622859I don't get that impression because I literally cannot escape Kiara anywhere else. She's on twitter, on leddit, discussion about her dominated global, she's in a fuckton of fanart and gets plenty of clips. How is she outside the box?
>>47622833based
>>47622859>Kiara is like Matsurimore like Mel or Aki, but not as cute
>>47622886No it wasn’t, stop lying. I explicitly know she didn’t reach 7k until Ollie joined.
>>47617815> Cute girls and powerful boysGood example to look at the more "successful" males.1. Kuzuha, Ibrahim etc.Good game skills, good bantz, generally fun guys to hang around with. Talks like Japanese college jocks, yet are friendly and don't overtly shit on any of their friends (most of the time), and never lets "bantz" escalate too far into "hurtful" territory.2. Fuwa, Gaku, Kaida etc.Pretty boys, decent at singing, good stage presence. Food for Yumes to devour.3. Vox (I know, lol and all, but he had something going for him early on)British voice, considered one of the sexiest types of voices by women, decent gamer. Went full coomer which kind of got him a flakier audience. Lots of minor yabs cut into him, but he had the potential to be a big male chuuba.Pretty much all off them are "powerful" in various ways without a doubt.Now, among both Holostars and Tempus, which guy could you point at and say "this guy is powerful"?
>>47622933It's just cope from her usual schizos. Same ones that shit up here and in global
>>47622970Oh my bad, I read that as after Ollie joined. It was the lean man.
>>47622543Repeat after me anon:Co-pi-umNow you try it please.
>>47622997explain her numbers then
>>47622933Outside the box means that a section of the other fanbases boycott Kiara even if their oshi is collabing with Kiara.
>>47622680color debuffvoice debuffcursing debuffaccent debuff
This is /whuuu/
>>47621357>80x: Hololive>19x: Nijisanjii don't even know what to say
>>47622785Ina should do more footfag pandering, she could get reach Gura's numbers that way
Am I seeing this right? The hololive subreddit with 4k online on a random hour of a day with nothing going on, no notable homo post on the front page, if any at all, and no major post on there that's bringing in dramafags? I feel like we're going back in time now. HoloEN actually streaming is bringing people back...
>>47623071Then who the fuck is generating all this Kiara mindchair? the 2-3k KFP?
>>47621357>>47621409Jeez, HoloJP can't put away Niji but HoloEN is dominating Niji. HoloJP needs to step up their game.
>>47622785
>>47623017Imagine getting beaten by the tranny shota playing 14 sentinels kek
>>47623222KFP and Schizos go hand-in-hand.
>>47623222Yes most vt threads only have 100-150 posters. So it is not surprising.
Jesus fucking christ they were just on the server there is a goddamn raid farm there shitting gunpowder STOP TWIDDLING YOUR FINGERS YOU DUMB BITCHES AND DO SOMETHING
>>47623017>all those 400 avg/1k peak Flayon streams
>>47623209There's a bizarre amount of Gura on the frontpage. For being memed by /hlg/ as the reddit shark she's never been that popular there, like Ina/Kiara are
>>47623017is this nijilarping or holobeggar really this trash?
>>47621230It is when you find out this is what Blue Journey is getting right now kekbtw, Milkyqueen only has a whopping 3.8k subscribers on her youtube which is where the cover is at, and it's over 60k now. 60k for a 3.8k sub channel is pretty fucking insane.
>>47623242It's been reclining for a reason. HoloEN is singlehandedly carrying Hololive, especially Fauna and Mumei. Last Samurais will cope otherwise.
>>47623319If you're losing your mind now, imagine how empty headed they'll be when Gura shows up
>>47623351>Aqua>Marine>Watame>3 debuffsWhat did you expect? Maybe they should have included EN
>>47623242what are you talking about?>>47623190
>>47623209I saw the active user passed 3.5k during Gura's stream begging post getting attraction.Before that I think the sub was still around 2.5k~3k.
>>47623351>3.8k subscribers on her youtubeFucking how?? Didn't she collab with Mori during the EN boom?
>>47619785Dozo
>>47623209Isn't it because of the horse meme?
>>47619958??maybe she just wants to expand her setlist? Most of hololive songs are beyond her ability, you know.
>>47623351BASED BASED BASEDDEATH TO HOLOJP WE HATE THEM, KARMA FOR NOT INCLUDING EN
>>47623343>>47623426Maybe this?
>>47623464Some of those holo*27 songs are easy, like Suisei's.
>>47622570
>>47623438I have to imagine most of her traction is on her twitch but yup, 3.77k subs
>>47622562Whoremei
>>47623495>suishitkek what a flopGhost Rule was the only good song
>>47623446pretty cute, A-chan could easily be a normal hololive member maybe she could have be 2nd army even
>>476234219 to 5 this month for HoloJP16 to 2 this month for HoloENHoloJP is struggling and needs to put Niji away already.
>Whoremei
Speaking of standardized merch.Did all of you guys forget about that recent Yagoo interview that was translated and posted here?https://c-eye.co.jp/eq/ipo-eq/66679> The difference in operating profit is the product mix of goods. Let me describe ours, since might be a stretch to visualize.> The merchandise sales we have been doing so far have not been the kind of merchandise development that ANYCOLOR sells, but have focused on made-to-order merchandise sold on the talent's special days, specifically anniversaries and birthdays.> As a background, I thought that such goods would return a large amount of profits to the talent and would lead to support for their activities. On the other hand, ANYCOLOR plans and sells a large amount of goods led by the company. If you actually visit our EC site, you will immediately notice that even if you try to buy something on our site, most of them are made-to-order products and there are not many things that are currently on sale.> ANYCOLOR has a lot of things on sale right now, and they have plenty of merch that is not tied to the anniversaries or birthdays of the talents alone.> We are also planning to strengthen the development of commerce with direct listing as an opportunity. For example, we would like to provide products that people who become fans at stores or on e-commerce sites can buy as soon as they become fans, while also taking inventory risks. In other words, we are currently losing opportunities due to not having direct stock-based sales, and as a result, we are behind in terms of profit margins.Basically, any new Nijisanji fan could go to their website, see some merch and buy it IMMEDIATELY.But for Cover, their merch relies on individual chuuba birthdays, anniversaries etc. and are all made to order, lasting for about a month.This does get high returns, but unlike the aforementioned Nijisanji fan, a new Hololive fan (and there's FAR more of them coming in every day) cannot directly go to their merch shop and buy the merch of their new oshi - because chances are, it's not her birthday or anniversary yet!So there's a HUGE amount of opportunity cost being lost here, which he states as the reason why Nijisanji is ahead in terms of sales figures.This is why there's a lot of talk about standardized merch within Cover.They want to have simple "gateway" merch available 24x7 to buy for new fans any time for any of their talents.I just hope they don't underestimate their popularity again and overstock their merch as much as they can, because having all their stock based merch be "out of stock" for 90% of the site's uptime will not change the existing situation much.
This stream proves that Fauna is botted trash
>>47623495Now that has suisei's name stick to it, another common problem:when it comes to suisei's songs, many girls won't sing if they can't do her songs justice.
>>47623421HoloJP is dying m8HoloEN carries Hololive brandDon't be a Last Samurai in denial
>NA schizo hours
>20m in less than a weekI see why the holos are being forced to kneel to this show now
>>47623661It's unironically fucking over. Enjoy your Marine and Pekora keychain from now on Holofags
Also interesting fact:This minecraft stream is currently Kiara's worst performing in terms of Superchat revenue this year.
>>47623661 I hope they will make fumos a permanent line, with versions for every outfit available all the time
>>47623674Still infinitely worth more to Hololive than Marine the Reddit whore
>>47623750That's what happens when it turns into a collab. Collabs just don't get money.
>>47623740You're retarded
>>47623614HoloEN would never win a single gold again NijiJP.
>>47623691>Trash song>Trash showThis is what happens when stuff catches on with the mindless, easily amused and impressionable, casuals.
>>47623805Fauna is actually a redditor you retarded fag
>>47623750Collabs don't do well unless some baiting happens like when Mori got Kiara 500 or so memberships
>>47623661Standardized merch isn't the devil. The entire mockery of Nijis was that every BD, holos god customized shit, but nijis got the same shit with a different picture on it. Which isn't what yagoo said he wants to do at all.Sucks for homoshits though. I wonder if they'll be pissed when HomoEN doesn't get downgraded but they have to take the hit?
>>47623832>defending NijiJPOk Nijifag
Ok, I know that Kiara isn’t getting the full benefit of Mumei in VC, but I have to imagine that she has to be getting at least SOMETHING. Without her or Ollie, Kiara would probably be only around 5.5k.
>>47623676sea hours are over already. go get some some sleep aussiebro
>>47623209> tfw a 10 year old "dead" game sub has the same numbers during it's off hours
>>47623981NijiJP is much much stronger than HoloEN and I say this as a hololive fan.
>>47624071>as a hololive fan
>>47624071>as a hololive fan.do nijibronies really?
>>47624036Anon let me put this into perspective for you. I'm a chumbud. I've been on a dry spell for Gura content for the past half a year. I skipped the Gura/Kiara collab.The debuff chicken simply cancels my interest in a stream. I will say she was actually ok in the gameshow offcollab myth did recently though, and in their group 3d showcase.
HoloEN > NijiJP > HoloJP > NijiEN
>>47624036Yea that seems about right. These were her last 4 solo MC streams way before tempus debut.
>>47623914Butthurt holobrony hahaha. This show is killing toxic idol culture in hololive. You love to see it.
>>47623973>when HomoEN doesn't get downgradedThey probably will.
>>47624071>NijiJP is much much stronger than HoloEN???Get your head out of your ass anon, HoloEN is the branch with the second highest median/average in corpo vtubing.inb4>aieee no you can't count the 9999 niji shitters, you can only count Ibrahim and above!
https://youtu.be/XgXrpyChHSw?t=91
>>47624071Kuzuha is a male, troonkun
>>47624183Koronecuckis got BTFO really hard this past week with the IRL male and now this kek
>>47623973Theyll be downgraded and the shitshow will be fun to watch
>>47624157KILL ALL EN NIGGERS
>>47624036Fauna played minecraft two days ago and got double her ccv in similar conditions. Myth is like holo jp gen 1 where their only two popular members and everyone else is a shitter.
>>47624225NijiJP females are stronger than HoloEN females.
>>47624272>replying to himself
>>47624272>Cucksagi still in denial mode after male collab and damage control of cheating whore friend in Tetris tournament
>>47624183Korone is going to get impregnated by her lil bro..
>>47624309
>>47624302>two days agoIt was literally just yesterday
uh they extended the VOD expiring date on SPWN for Fes, the holo27 stage issue?
>>47624309Faumei exists and that is all I simply need.
>>47624223Despite what she claims on this video, sharks are far from being the biggest apex predator.
>>47624369>use reaction image >he must be that fanbasei must be a sanalite then you Mongolian Whore
>>47624148I don't necessarily mind Kiara as a solo streamer and tune in when I can but I can see why many try to avoid her. Even just this single stream, I've heard her make such weird statements. Maybe it's just her being ESL and European so things get misinterpreted but even just a few minutes ago she was talking to Mumei and was like "I had to make sure it was you who replied to my tweet because no one in EN talks to me/replies to any of my tweets"It's like, I know she isn't trying to be mean or rude but it just comes off as being a scathing remark
Why won't they hire more girls for EN?
* TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS, TEMPUS 2 *>>47606465 :: Flayon (career low)>>47606666 :: Hakka (career low)>>47606925 :: Shinri (close to career low)>>47607360 :: Bettel (career low)Half-gen outlook: not so good
>>47622785The perfect body type
>>47624309source next thread?
>>47624395>75dear lord
We only watch Fauna and Mumei hereNo one else in Hololive is relevant
>>47624395Yes, more people are watching NijiJP females and there are way more NijiJP females that average above 10k CCV than in HoloEN.
>>47624148I know how you feel about the chicken deep in my soul, but the Beans collab was fine. They had fun and it wasn't awkward.I liked it way more than the Myth collab in the brapper's channel, at least
>>47624071Wrong. I went into the archives but I couldn't find the pic. However a table was posted the other day showing that HoloEN had the 2nd highest median behind only HoloJP. They were well ahead of NijiJP.
>>47623661>This does get high returnsYou misunderstood what yagoo saidHe said it gets high returns for the TALENT>As a background, I thought that such goods would return a large amount of profits to the talent and would lead to support for their activities.The idea behind the birthday and anni merch was that they were going to have the talents be heavily involved in the process, this in turn means they get a better split and the hope was that the girls would then take the additional income and then reinvest it into projects.But we can obviously see the flaws in a system like that with Gawr "1 Orisong in 2.5 years" Gura and the fact that Cover doesn't get as much on the split means the merch doesn't bring in as much profit for them on a company wide level.
>>47624478there's no more good women on the west, they are searching for japanese, korean and taiwanese girls that can speak english and they are pretty hard to find
>>47624546>last samurai coping again
>>47624422KYS Owlcvcks and sapcvcks
>>47624395wtf is that really a 2view in NijiJP?
My wifeRyS
>>47624478Council flopped so we are only focusing on Holostars now.
>>47623620/qa/ lost btw
>>47624598
>>47624624>Whoremeiwho watches this boring whore
>>47624638Your WifeRyS in my bedRyS!!
>>47624223>even a heart or a hello just makes my tiny shark heart beat really fast>I'm GOOD. I'm SO happy to be here with everyonedon't do this to me bro
>>47624638Shit.
>>47624470>"I had to make sure it was you who replied to my tweet because no one in EN talks to me/replies to any of my tweets"Damn, that's kind of sad.
>>47624638>shitnii>>47624638>shitrys
>>47624635no she ex-ID vrabi merge them to Nijisanji now
>>47624687>t.Seething Westoid Mudshark Roastie
Meimei my love
>>47624687>bodycount: 0 dyrbi
>>47621682this is the power of youtube pushthis is what maribako would have gotten in the same time period if youtube pushed it
>>47623343Kiara isn’t popular anywhere stop pretending
Why is the VShojo defender camping this thread. Now I'm curious on whether or not there is some drama going on their side.There is a telltale for that>"nijirai" in the thread: bad news or drama about to drop for Nijis>"Vshojo defender" in the thread: bad news or drama about to drop for VShojo
>>47624802Try again, Shitrystokek
>>47624148My issue with Kiara and Bae collabs are that neither of them have any common topics/pop culture references/internet knowledge/humor with the rest of the NA girls. There is this awkward first date feeling.However the few Kiara-HoloID collabs I have seen were way better and this awkwardness was not there.
>>47624687oh hey the vsj cuck is back
>>47624776>vrabi merge them to Nijisanji nowkek, it was not vrabi that merged them, it was Anycolor.>>47624635>wtf is that really a 2view in NijiJP?Yes.
>>476248423rd most popular EN on this site, Shitrystokek
>>47624588true, this + the lost opportunity cost they can see directly from Nijisanji is probably the reason they're trying out stock based merch.
>>47624900But I love my Faumei...
>>47624878Who's that brown shitter you keep posting? was it moomwhore? whoremei? i honestly cannot remember because she's kinda forgettable and boring
>>47624687>Retard thinks culture doesn't matter.>Says retarded shit.
>>47624470ESL ok, but that's just shit irony calibration, probably she can convey better in irl and her wordplay don't translate well? 2.5yrs of echochamber removed her limiters? dunno but it's futile getting on Kiara's remarks, you'll just cut down your life expectancy.
>>47624470It's called being honest, she just gave her exact reasoning for being hesitant to reply.Unfortunately a lot of people hate honesty and Kiara struggles to be able to lie.
>>47623661it's really over, cover is turning into a black company
>>47624999Thanks for letting us know who was also doing the Mumei shitposting.
>Who's that brown shitter you keep posting? was it moomwhore? whoremei? i honestly cannot remember because she's kinda forgettable and boring
Nanashi “l like to watch all hololive streams” Mumei is watching
It's funny people complain about kiara when she pretty much the ideal girl thread describes they want to see in en 3 .>Streams a lot>Can manage collabs>GFE/Unicorn friendly>Loves Hololive>Respects Idol culture>Reach out to hang with jp girls.
>>47625046>It's called being honestThe one thing the audience wants the LEAST in their escapist entertainment is honesty, and Kiara numbers surely are a reflection of that
>>47625085Except for Shitrys and all the JPwhores
>>47625124did you forgot the dancing line when copypasting the bae post of 12hrs ago?
>thread slowly becoming /hlgg/good morning ENiggers
>>47625124>Streams a lotWith awful content choices if she's worried about numbers. Which leads into her other issues.
>>47625124>Can manage collabsNo she can't, she never could and she more often than not debuffed the collabs because>she hogs the mic>she ends up causing a shift in the usual timeslop that would be expected either for a north american collab or for a japanese collab by virtue of being in europeI have no idea of why people are pushing this meme.
>Uyu sub 200how do we save him sisters
>>47625046There's a difference between honesty and speaking when you shouldn't
Thread was fine until a bit ago which coincidentally is when Global started getting hit too
>>47625132I agree it's bad for widespread appeal but it fits her particular niche perfectly and her core fanbases appreciates it as one of her best defining features. Some will dislike it and some will love it.
>>47623312He wasn't talking about the /vt/ threads retard he was talking about the fan art
>>47625124>Abrasive and annoying voiceInsta drop
>>47625211People push it because she asks people to collab and organizes them. This is basically a miraculous feat in HoloEN. More than half of big HoloEN collabs would have never happened without Kiara. It's why so many are on her channel.
>>47625196>morning
>>47625215
>>47625046I mean, blunt honesty is widely looked down upon in many parts of the world. It gets you no points anywhere and many will associate it/you with just being an asshole. I don't think Kiara is an asshole, she's probably a really nice person, but having no filter will easily make people annoyed
>wojakpostingthis is a new low for this place
>>47624588Retard she has 2 original songs. Why don’t you bring up Ame or Ina? She has been done/featured on then both of them combined. Why would they need to reinvest in original songs anyway unless they plan on doing a sololive? Again you’re a retard
>>47624581Notice how he totally ignored this. I'll claim my victory.
>>47623661Standardization in the vein of what’s happening to the homos is more or less a punishment to them cause they’re not pulling their weight. As for always having items in stock, this could be anything from acrylic stands to office goods and shit, things that have a high margin and slight differences (red notebook with something that represents Marine on the cover for example).
Remember to report posts retards
Homostars twitter is funny, the girls are frantic and begging for people to support the boiz
>>47625305>Flayons future
>>47625215Instead of preaching people to watch Holostars, how about asking Holostars to give entertaining content.... Am I supposed to watch his 20th Dead by Daylight this year
>>47625340Too bad Marine will be reduced to just keychains from now on.But the Reddit whore deserved it anyways since she got caught cheating
>>47625196>t. SEAnig shitting up the thread
>>47625312>blunt honesty is widely looked down upon in many parts of the world.You're showing you cultural bias right there, it's also widely appreciated in lots of places, your comment that >It gets you no points Is objectively incorrect and depends entirely on where you are and who you're looking at.
>>47625261>it fits her particular nicheShe has no niche. What she has is an audience filtered so thin by that exact behaviour only the most hardcore partisans remain in her loyal audience, only the few people in the world that wants that kind of attitude as their entertainment.>it as one of her best defining features.I agree. I am not saying she should change it or that she even is capable of changing it, only that it is a detriment to her and not something that would ever be worth of praisePeople talk about "#ameway" but mostly because Ame gradually evolved into that. Kiara debuted like that.
>>47623675Multiple members have tried and are still learning her songs. What’s with all the thread readers talking when they clearly don’t watch streams.
>>47624505Holy fuck
>>47625324Could be worse, global is infested with bots right now
>>47625396at this hour?
>>47625355I'm surprised they don't just resort to botting like the kpop stan girls do if they're getting that desperate.
>>47625355kek, a new breed of "homobeggar" might have been birth by tha twitter retard, an ironic beggar in the >please give them moneybeggar
>>47625355Did something new happen to the stars? Or it the news of their anime and merch spreading?
>>47625355Post more examples
>>47625471The retard basically just admitted to being SEA, anon, it's only morning over there.
>>47625396>t.subhuman Zhang
>>47625496Bettel is getting the niji audience. might happen soon for him if his merch is standardized
>>47625355Why the hell do every stars fan go along with the bussy meme
>>47625525>the news of their anime and merch spreadingyeah it's this one.The Stars fans are interpreting it as a bad omen (because it is)
>>47625448The zoomed out charts do not make justice of the state of each of their audiences.>pic relatedThis is genuinely about to look like a proper Holostar
>>47625525Both Rikka and Tenma got reduced to Niji tier bday merch and it’s gonna happened to every stars member under 300k subs
HELLO /#/ ER.. I MEAN /WHUUU/HOW WE FEELING TODAY?
>>47625355I can go do them a favor and turn on one of their streams but I will literally NEVER buy their merch unless they resell Shien's mascot's plush Stars shit. It's not going to happen. This "PLEASE WATCH/PLEASE SUPPORT" isn't going to do shit, they need to actually show people what's good about them instead of just dumping text on twitter. But that's not going to happen either because the boys aren't worth shit.
Reminder
>>47625564They can't help themselves but warp the entire fanbase into a hyper-sexualized fujoshi fantasy of the boys as feminized and getting fucked/raped/whatever constantly. And then they wonder why men aren't hanging out or watching.
>>47625420>She has no niche. What she has is an audience filtered so thin by that exact behaviour only the most hardcore partisans remain in her loyal audienceI get that you don't like her, but your letting your person dislike for her cloud your ability to objectively evaluate her strengths as a content creator, she has a niche and is definitely strong numbers wise in a lot of different areas if you decide to get over /#/s CCV autism, to say she doesn't is just ignorant. >not something that would ever be worth of praiseWhy not? I think it's definitely worthy of praise, it's refreshing a lot of times.
>>47623209Practically every discussion thread for Oshi no Ko i've seen someone inevitably brings up vtubers or more specifically Hololive. I wouldn't be surprised if it's that + Gura drama because those threads got a shit load of engagement.
>>47625532nice american education you got my friend
>>47625496That cost money. If they had that, they wouldn't be getting the bad merch>>47625504Begging for money is the way you drive people out. Shit will become more grim for the stars if this type of behavior spreads
>>47625355> Hologra> Starcolle> 5 minutesdo these sisters even watch the supposed homo they're trying to "save"?
>>47625617Fuck off green Whore
>>47625613>and it’s gonna happened to every stars member>under 300k subskek, why the qualifier? They're ALL under 300k with some under 100k
>>47625700Don't be so rude, I was just saying hello.
This Kiara stream deserves a case study, why aren’t people posting charts?
>>47625735Roberu is gonna make it bros
>>47625707kys, /qa/ faggot.
>>47625683No, heck the persona who started this mess doesn't even watch Tempus. He watches clips and the squad only.
>>47625735Because it's a goal for them to actually work towards I assume. Lofty enough to be somewhat impressive, but not literally completely impossible like the "1m" goal for every Holo girl.
>>47625735>based winning son will pass Shitco's subBASED BASED BASED
>>47625355These are actual EOP/ESL homojp fans?Thought they left
>>47625752Who?
>>47625683Lol no. They are fans of the idea of the Stars.
My chest hurts...
>>47625735Choco..
https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1647441434973442049https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1647381519370010625https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1647148916427886593these cuck faggots are literally admitting of shitting up the board and being the ones behind the "Gura doesn't stream" and "Oshi no Ko will kill idol culture" astroturfs. Fuck Phase for endorsing these sad sacks of shit.
>>47625496>bottingthose popular kpop songs never appeared on my reco for a reason. yt knows they are botted, so they killed them off the algo. it's just a bunch of kpopers circlejerking the views
>>47625735It’s a realistic goal if the homos actively try to improve their channels or at least exploit shorts. Yagoo is measuring success on sub gains to his investors.
>>47625613there's no way that's the metric, fans could easily organize to start mass subscribing to all channels and still don't watch streams
>>47625859Take some baby aspirin and consider adding a leafy vegetable or two to your diet
>/#/ - Twitter General
>>47625707>>47624687please find some different meme pics next time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gg12j_4e3QThis made me realize something, learning memes is fun, especially with holosSo then why was Aruran the only one to do a series on it?
>>47625683obviously not. Vesper probably being the most hated by sisters still makes the highest ccv in Tempus because the male fans he has still watch his streams. Most sisters dont watch streams. (/MANS/ was posting gore and fujo fantasies of Altare during Hakka's stream yesterday instead of talking about the stream)
>>47625406>It's widely appreciated in lots of placesSo the third world
>>47625889Subs is THE KPI for cover. It's their number one goal for every channel. It's what they care about the most above all. They've been very clear and consistent on this.If the stars fans were capable of organizing a big sub drive, they would have by now. There literally aren't enough of them to do jack shit.
>>47625752Nijifags don't want to post a chart where Kiara is currently the highest viewed streamer, Holofags are used to getting the highest viewed stream and dramafags can't really twist it as a negative
>>47625735Let this be a lesson to Cover for pushing males into the Hololive ecosytem.People have EMPHATICALLY stated that they do NOT want them.They want new girls.And if you do not give them new girls, they will move on to the people who will.
>>47625889 (me)maybe not "easily", but it's still a dumb metric to go by
>>47625889And that they don’t shows how fucking useles their fans are. They’re too busy fighting twitter or /vt/ wars.
>>47625864>Choco..That's Choco ***SUB*** account, where she dumped her ARK spam VODs.Choco proper beat the first three Stars combined
>>47625859
>>47625959I mean, I guess if you consider central Europe the third world, but I'm pretty sure it's technically considered second world.
>>47625889>>47625989>fans could easily organize to start mass subscribing to all channelsHAHAHAHAHAHA, no they couldn't. If there were 200k people willing to do that there would be 1% of those (2000 people) willing to watch their streams.
>>47625870No shit? This is known. Seething 2views and cucks can't stop seething about Gura being much more relevant than their wholesome, humble indie smol corpos that can do no wrong.
>>47625977>Peopleunicrons are not people
hey janny if you were interested in doing your job for once >>47625870 the second tweet is about ironmouse, not gura or hololive, it's even the thing you're pretty touchy about
>>47625977don't worry, cover will release holostarsID to prove you wrong
>>47625124>Loves nijisanji more>doesn’t respect idol culture>wants to collab with menMan the amount of lying kfp does
>>47625977It’s kinda funny. Smaller corpos can blow up with girls like this, and it’s great. She beat out all of the stars in a fraction of the time? That’s pathetic. Take the fucking hint Cover.
If THIS is how they're handling a fucking pillager station, the Wither is going to be a problem. Holy fuck I'm so sorry, Fauna.
>>47625973Except they almost never do anything to encourage sub growth. To me it seems they don't really care beyond a bullet point to toss onto a presentation slide.
>>47625977>And if you do not give them new girls, they will move on to the people who will.Pic unrelated, I assume, given that even the lowest subbed Hololive girl (Kaela) just beat 600k subs recently, and her gen mate is about to beat 2MRin Penrose audience came exclusively from people exposed to her through shorts, not from disaffected members of the Holo audience.You could make a case for the NijiEN first few female waves but after Luxiem, yeah ...
>>47625977> inb4 "muh shorts, muh algo hack, muh she's not gonna convert that into stream views"Here's how she matches up against the current top EN homo.The numbers don't lie.
>>47625735and imagine wasting studio time on shitters like thisYour oshi won't be able to record her 3d live properly because a nigger called banzoooin hakka will be wasting time in the studio
>>47625649I still wonder why there has been no push back agains those hypersexualized ironic stuff from the actual fags, you're just reducing them to a hole, basically fetishizing them
>>47625290So we’re just lying now that’s cool.
>>47625973I don't doubt Cover considers subs important but in this case it doesn't make sense, might as well not have any requirement.>>47626032>HAHAHAHAHAHA, no they couldn't. If there were 200k people willing to do that there would be 1% of those (2000 people) willing to watch their streams.watching streams takes time, subscribing takes nothing and in this case they'd get almost instant gratification for it
>>47626046I didn't even know. Just pointing out that the Oshi no Ko thing has been obviously astroturfed as fuck and it's pretty clear that these fags are behind it.
>>47626124>shortsyes>leech off Gurayes>not gonna convert those views into live viewersnot true
>>47625977I agree people want new girls, but you need to stop pushing this boring clickbaiting leech as an example of anything you just posted
>>47625933so this basically confirms that marine is a 2/5ch oldfagshe was one of the og jap shitposters
>>47626158>now
>>47625942at least they weren't posting their asses like during the pantsu merch reveal
>>47626120They tell us it's their number one goal in both public and investor-targeted materials, a lot of incentives are aligned around it for the talents, they flaunt it as their biggest achievement and it's the thing they order the girls by... I mean, we can choose to believe they're just lying about it if we want but I don't know why they would.What should they be doing to encourage sub growth? It's not an easy nut to crack. Even the "just do shorts" meme doesn't just work by default.
>>47623416>least salty EOPkeep seething, your sidebranch should have even less participation
Ever since the standardized merch, the doxxsisters finest minds have been hard at work trying to find the final solution to the Stars problem. And as a result they started shitting on Gura and her fans kek
>>47625977>Spamming shortsAnd into the trash it goes
>>47626217The audience is more important thing to note there anonNot that the fact that most of holo audience are ancient shitposters was a secret
Great, the "sidebranch" nigger is replying to his own posts again.
>>47623914>mindless, easily amused and impressionableyou watch vtubers
>>47626046lel they're not even subtle about it
>>47626264I always love how people ignore Council whenever you mention a single Myth as if there's no other ENs
>>47626264are they wrong about what they said? Her community IS shit. at least theyre downvoting the dumbass that said she must acknowledge them
>>47626303Vtubers have been around for a long time now. They have proven to have staying power. This shitty anime is FOTM and will be forgotten about next season when the next FOTM takes it's place.
>>47625406Blunt honesty is asian parents saying their kids look fat or carribean parents calling their son a sissy for wearing skinny jeans. This isn’t blunt honesty it’s being stupid. If your friend randomly tells you “I’m a virgin” you’ll think it’s weird because that wasn’t something you asked.
>>47626264>that one clip of her chat during a certain song in Trombone ChampBased ChumCHADS filtering the fujos and trannies out of her community.
>>47626264I told you fuckers the homostars fans would all anti the girls.
>>47626236It certainly doesn't work if you don't do it at all. A few Holo talents have dabbled in shorts and rapidly got bored with them and stopped. No one's actually made any concerted effort with it.
>>47625735gotta say vsaikyou did work for Gamma and Astel's ccv and subs holy shit. Gamma is a 4view on all of his solo streams this week
>>47626172>subscribing takes nothingAnon, you are sorely missing the point. 200k people is a HUGE number of people and getting them all to move in the same direction to achieve a goal depends on a HUGE willingness by every member of that group.It might be just>log in into your account and click the subscribe button for 20 channelsbut it is still an insurmountable task for someone to just find enough people to do just that.It is, incidentally, one of the things that causes the most seethe in the general vtuber audience outside of Hololive, and the fact they say >Holo girls are awarded 200k subs pre debut without even saying a single word or putting out a single tweetIf the existing audience for the stars was big enough for 200k people to exist in a state of being willing to click the subs button just to make them happy, don't you think they would, like in Hololive's case, ALREADY HAVE DONE IT?The truth is: their number of subs reflect the size of their audience.
>>47626203NTA, but>>not gonna convert those views into live viewersConversion rate isn't good since people watching shorts want shorts and it's a different algo. Also for those that do make the jump if your stream content is different from your shorts you're going to have issues with retaining them.
>>47626172It’s the pretty number that everyone sees right off the bat.When you see Hololive with 600k (low end) to 4m subs (high end) but then look at the stars and see under 100k shitters you start going “what’s going on here?”.
>>47626264What controversy does Gura have to address? Are sisters off their meds?
>>47626264Whats the Tombone thing about?
>>47626264hahahaha
>>47626264>Thinking Chumbuds are going to watch fucking Holostars when Gura's fans barely watch other Hololive members.
>>47626531probably the Iofi among us drama
>>47626531daki? i don't fucking know anymore
>>47626536When she was playing the jewish song everyone kept saying OY VEY in the chat
>>47623661Just ask each Holo to create 3 items of merch that they want sold around the year. One would be a plush of their fan mascot
>>47626536Trombone Champ has Hava Nagila, and when it played people in the chat were making SHUT IT DOWN jokes.
>>47626531making trombone farting noises while playing the Israel anthem lmao. that was the funniest shit ever btw
>>47626264>that one clip of her chat during a certain song in Trombone Champ made me swear her off entirelyTOP KEK, CHUMBUDS I KNEEL!
>>47626497may be irregular but "NOT gonna convert" is a false statement
>>47626460It was obvious. Women hate other women harder than any Incel can dream off
>>47626385can you actually articulate how the chumbuds are no good downright awful or are you going to post a screenshot of her most infamous schizo and a wall of greys>>47626531currently they're probably seething over the communication thing again, they're extremely angry that it blew over and that her fans weren't actually harassing her, they craved the drama
>>47626565which wasn't even a chumbud in the end
>>47625650Vods are also awful. Sales don’t compare to any of the other girls. But go off at least she gets song views
>>47626264that's true tho, gura fanbase will always be shit. but that's expected from 4mil vtuber
>>47626570>>47626594oh nyo
>>47626480God bless them, and I hope they can find the strength to NOT RUIN IT>looking at you, seaweed haired retard, you won't get another chance
>>47626536Some lukewarm "Oy vey" spam while she was playing Hava Nagila. Apparently that was extremely offensive for these sisters.
>>47626476>No one's actually made any concerted effort with it.Watame?
>>47626531White males watch Gura, that's a controversy to them.
>>47622570>>47623525heh
>>47626655got shit number recently, even Marine stopped
>>47626570>>47626594my bud does the filthiest kike impressions/stereotypes for shiggles and he's a jew himself. $10 and those fags aren't even jewish
>>47626111The reason EN3 delayed is because Yagoo hasn't found the perfect Minecraft autist partner for Fauna
>>47625800Covers all about equality till it’s pumping up the stars
>>47625355>put his entire holorussyhis what now
>>47626398>you’ll think it’s weird because that wasn’t something you asked.I don't really understand what you're trying to say, but relating back to the original topic of Kiara being honest, she doesn't just randomly say things unless she thinks they're relevant to the conversation, so unless you disagree with that I don't quite get what point you're trying to make.If she just randomly said uncomfortable things with no context I guess that'd apply but that's not what she does, at least I don't think so.
>>47626598based filtering shit stirrers by just having fun>>47626609women and "women(male)"
>>47626043Thank you Captain Obvious.
>>47626264>pleasant young womanWho types like this? Just say she's some random girl, no one cares
>>47625355>Tempiss merch and 3d models brought up>"So save JP Stars please!"I can already see where this is going. If the EN flops get their merch or 3d fucked up they're going to blame JP for it since they refuse to acknowledge Tempiss is shit. They're already doing it.
>>47626264>If Gura acknowledge homos they would have good numbersI love this cope. It completly ignores the fact that even rising star that was Kobo couldn't fucking save them.
>>47626480I hope Gamma is successful, not because I like him or anything but to fucking show that you NEED to branch out to the other corpos to find success and not bury yourself in “Holopro”.
>>47626487I was talking about stars as a whole, not just Tempus, and I still think we're gonna see a decent uptick of subs for all homos. I agree it's a tall order for the bottom homos (lel) but there must be better metrics out there.>>47626509if it's an arbitrary number why not 400k, or 500k. Harder to get and looks better compared to 600k.
>>47625650>she has a niche and is definitely strong numbers wise in a lot of different areas if you decide to get over /#/s CCV autism, to say she doesn't is just ignorant.Almost three years down the line and, even excluding Gura, with two of her genmates (Ame and Ina) being physically or mentally out of commission for at least 18 months, Kiara still didn't find a way to a very least catch up with her weakest gen mates.>I think it's definitely worthy of praise, it's refreshing a lot of times.That's clearly not the audience's vote, it's your heart talking.
>>47625124>Streams a lotWith the shittiest content imaginable, she ignores the game and drones on about the mundane bullshit in her life>Can manage collabsEvery collab Kiara has organized has been a disaster>Loves HololiveShe lied about Pekora being her oshi
>>47626788also implies that chumbuds would somehow be magically interested in watching males
>>47626756Well to be fair, we have no evidence the stars get anything like the "wish" unless they get 1m. They're basically needing to earn 300k just to get baseline normal merch.Funny, I wonder if any new girl gens will also technically need 300k now to get the good merch? Obviously that probably won't ever be a factor going forward.
Sisters if spamming shorts and abusing the algorithm is so easy, then why don’t the Stars do it? Are their shorts just terrible? Are they stupid? It seems like there’s some idea that spamming shorts is easy numbers, and yet I don’t see every aspiring Vtuber doing it and succeeding? Surely you sisters would watch their shorts, right? You’d at least tune into a 30 second or minute long video, right? You watch them, right? Idk just seems weird to shit on this Pinrose whoever when she makes shorts but your boys are failures and don’t do anything to improve. Idk
>>47626774It's a fake compliment to hide their true feelings. You can replace it with " that little bitch" and it would be 1000% more accurate
>>47626788Kobo did kinda save Altare, especially for the subs KPI. She turned him into the branch leader in subs just by collabing a handful of times.He turned off the spigot because his pride couldn't take getting called a leech I guess.
>>47626264>trombone champ??? it was a fun stream, or is this a tranny
>>47626852They don't watch Kiara and she treated Gura like her child in Japan. These women are dumb
>>47626816Because Stars sub gains are abysmal and setting it any higher than 300k might as well be telling them to give up.
>>47624233IRL male? Her dad?
>>47626868that takes a lot of work and I have the feeling most homos got into holostars thinking it was an easy job
>>47626046Why do they keep deleting that pic of the tweets from her official vtuber account? Posting pics of tweets from vtubers isn't against the rules
>>47626868Everyone points to Rin with the subs thing but wasn't the secret sauce for her not just spamming shorts, but spamming shorts after doing one with a conspicuous, shameless Gura namedrop in the title?The Stars can't do that obviously.
>>47626868spamming short + adding some gura into itstars can't do this
>>47626966>lot of workaren't those literally snippets of their streams?
Pekora is sexy
>>47626264I swear they wouldn't want chumbies to pay attention to their boys. The schizos ones even attack their own oshis for prolonged absence. What makes them think those schizos wouldn't attack the homos?
>>47626955Yeah the idea is to motivate them to try to improve their situation, not to make them despair. It's a carrot and stick approach.
>>47627012or flop around the floor flashing their panties like filian
>>47626868What kind of weird ass angle is this? They belong to a reputable company and can't shamelessly dramabait, clickbait or leech
>>47626997the namedropper was the ghost girl but I think Rin did something similar>>47627015some shorts are properly edited, like the ones the idol girls do
So why are retards spamming retarded shit about a completely made up number?
>>47626955I don't like how they can't even beat baby mode compared to the girls. They get everything handed to them with goals that are easier to reach yet has failed to do so.
>>47626264>literally BEGGING for Gura to save these faggotswhat about them making it with their own strenght instead of acting like spineless leeches?
>>47626962he's talking about this
>>47627012>>47626997I understand, but is Gura the ONLY pull for the algorithm? There’s NOTHING else they could use to abuse it? That sounds like a bit of cope.
>https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrLTy7MhFzb/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_linkbag
Clown numbers status?
>>47627077Nope. Rin innovated on the Gura leech method, Ghost girl copied her.
>>47627077They both did “WHY I BANNED GAWR GURA” clickbait
>>47626605She used to get 10k with 500-600ccv she’s doubled that and on paper it looks good. Shorts have millions of views but her vods got a 1% increase subs increase by 250k only 1000, being generous, added to the ccv less than 1%. Conversion is almost nonexistent and only noticeable because she’s small. You can argue it doesn’t exist or do you think gura would notice this increase
>>47626639>Vods are also awful.She has the third highest total views in EN with a sizable gap between her and everyone else.>That's only because she streams so muchGreat, that's another number she's good in!Also superchats, and she has the highest number of promotional/sponsored streams in EN. Why don't these numbers matter? >>47626843>Almost three years down the line and, even excluding Gura, with two of her genmates (Ame and Ina) being physically or mentally out of commission for at least 18 months, Kiara still didn't find a way to a very least catch up with her weakest gen mates.When you say catch up, what do you mean, subscribers? Viewers? Someone has to get the least of something in any particular group, it doesn't necessarily mean that the one at the bottom is doing something wrong, just different.>That's clearly not the audience's vote, it's your heart talking.I never asked about the audience, I asked why don't YOU think it's worthy of praise. You didn't say it's not worthy of praise in terms of acquiring bigger numbers, just not worthy of ever getting praise, full stop. I don't see why you'd think that.
>>47627050Kys threadreader, no one "attacked" Gura
>>47625261>her core fanbases appreciates itYou could take any Myth, give her a random debuff, make said girl annoyingly stubborn about it and they would end up with the same "core audience" as KiaraYou are basically saying that the only people who watch Kiara are the ones who would do so no matter what
>>47627135drama and meta stuff seems to be popular>>47627173>>47627181I stand corrected, thought it was only the ghost girl
>>47621230DO NOT AVERT YOUR GAZE
>>47627151a-chan's hands...
>>47627135there are other algo hacks sure, Gura is just the known easy cheat code.Gura has always been an algo cheatcode since day one, the AI just fucking loves her name and probably always will because of her absurd early growth period.
>>47627135Not even fucking “SQUAD” collabs are saving them those get 22k ccv
>>47627135>is Gura the ONLY pull for the algorithmMaybe Marine, but of course stars can't touch her either
>>47626997>doing one with a conspicuous, shameless Gura namedrop in the title?This seems like a reach. She does one with Gura in the name and suddenly you think ALL her shorts get views based on that alone? For what it's worth even Gura herself couldn't get the numbers Rin is getting so you're way overblowing the effect having her name in one short has had.
>>47627151Why are most posts on A-chan's instagram EN related?
>>47626264>Any publicity is good publicityClearly not.
>>47627196How is >I will never watch her because she enables a toxic problematic communityNot an attackAnd even if you don't view that as an attack, this comment from the thread reads like a /#/ Gura anti got lost
>>47627285Yes.Yuko copied her a few weeks later and had a similar incline.It's literally Gura's name. Unironically. Solely that. Seriously.
Ah gee guys, if only the whole world shilled da bois, turned on their own fanbases to browbeat them into watching da bois, and shut down their own channels so there'd be no one to watch except for da bois. Then maybe they'd be successful and we could finally defeat idol culture.
>>47627039She's a loser. She can't even win golds anymore.
>>47625046>muh honestyblasting your insecurities isn't honesty, it's offputting
>>47626696Because the millions that watched the shorts didn’t give her more subs nor was it worth anything monetarily. More than half are over 1 million some over 2 million why do retards keep preaching that something that helped people sub 100k will help in the same way
>>47627285was kinda wondering when someone was gonna bring this up, gura's own short hasn't really taken off like a rocket
>>47627285Shorts are weird and you literally need to target tiktok zoomers for them to work.
>>47627285https://www.youtube.com/shorts/guramY6vAos>Short on Guras channel>Name is "Gawr Gura said this" for maximum algo reach>Less than 400k views in a monthAnd somehow chumbuds think anything with "Gura" in the title will get an automatic 1 million views. Delusional.
>>47627285this is true, namedropping gura didn't get her to 300k, but it might have gotten the ball rolling. Also you'd say it's unethical.
>>47627336Yea her clip is at 800k now, while the actual Gura clip is still just 300k.
>>47627198>they would end up with the same "core audience" as KiaraI don't think that's true, I think she has her own particular audience that is a subset of the entire Hololive audience, just like anyone else in Hololive. You're basically trying to say that "KFP" doesn't exist, but I'm pretty sure they do, I don't even see how you could prove your claim. Evaluating viewership overlap I suppose? I don't think Kiara in particular suffers too much from losing that much viewership to overlap but I don't exactly have the stats to back up such a claim. I definitely don't think you can prove your own claim
>>47626264>her fans are fuckedwhen they are the ones orbiting the doxxfaggot site KEK look in a mirror you fucking mongoloids
hey, at least they're not that retarded to go full harrison bergeron on handcapping the girls yet
Is this the first collab 1on1 for Mumei and Kiara? I don't remember them ever really doing anything together.
>>47627397>>47627366You have to do more than one short to get the algo going. Youtube wants to see them spammed.
>>47627095>>47627152>>47627190you cant win with them
>>47627336And yet Guras own short with her name in the video title on her own channel has less than half the views. Weird huh.
I swear this must be the thread with the least possible understanding on how recommendation algorithms work.
>>47626264A very hearty kek seeing the place that fucking doxxes people trying to take the moral high ground.
>>47627438Damn, Youtube really manually killed Gura's channel, huh. Everyone is looking for Gura content but her actual channel is buried.
>>47627496>handicappingWhen can I bet on which girl dies first in minecraft?
>>47627299It's good practice for her English, and wants to reach a bigger and different audience for EN
>>47626264Why do these troons always blame the girls?
>>47626816>I was talking about stars as a whole, not just Tempus,Just as a refresher of how the conversation started (>>47625889)>fans could easily organize to start mass subscribing to all channelsIt's a tall order for EVERY homo. I'll make a huge leap here and assume you are new enough in the hobby not to be around when it was spome the Holo girls having subs issues>the infamous "subs cuck box" where there would be a "please subscribe" box with the girls with the least subs in itAki's 200k miracle was the WHOLE KAIGAI internet of the time>August 2020, at the peak of kaigai interest in pre HoloEN Hololive which culminated in the debut of HoloEN a month later more or lessunabashed using all of their means to beg for subs for Aki after seeing a sad clip of her, sad for being the lowest subbed.What was considered a bloody miracle at the time, worth of fame and legend, was that they got her subs bumped by some 17k (?)That is from an era Fubuki already had 760k subs and many of the other girls, closing in into that and all a subs drive managed to pull was not even 20k, and for a single talent.Even if the homobeggars get to beg as hard as they can, with their current numbers and pull, they would likely have enough strength to pull Uyu over 100k and that's it. If much
>>47626385>are they wrong about what they said? Her community IS shit.Wow, a community that only mind their oshi and wants her to stream versus a community who shit on others over not following them on Twitter. Hmmmm, which is which??
>>47627335This sister low key makes a lot of sense.
>>47627497Minecraft building of the Fortunetelling shrineKeywiKeywi second streamI'm pretty sure I'm forgetting some streams
>>47626922That's partly what I allude to. Kobo was closest to "saving" any of them, but even she failed. I don't think Altare getting pissy about being called leech really changed anything. He got his boost in subs already and that was pretty much a limit Kobo can give.
>>>47627190kek, based
>>47627528It's just the chumbies coping and overestimating Guras relevance once again. Rin hitting 1 million on almost all of her shorts has pretty much nothing to do with a single video having Guras name in the title. It's because they're good content.
>>47626264Precious coming from the same subhumans that harass, doxx and send gore to their ex-organs because their life is miserable so everyone has to share the same fate. Fucking crabs in a bucket.
>>47627521Nah dude, I don't know why you're posting that image because that's a legitimate grievance. You don't watch Holos for the Holo to pay attention to and shouting out specific people just because they're paypigs.
>>47627528Because Gura isn't consistent about creating them. The algo wants consistent, frequent shorts creation. The Gura leeching got their short out there and got people to click, and the consistent spam was rewarded by the algo beyond that and carried forward the momentum.
>>47626460>the homostars fans would all anti the girls.would anti the girls who won't acknowledge the homos, there FIXED
>>47627366How shorts work is that you have to consistently release them and your shorts start getting into everyone’s algorithms in chunks. If you want to play the shorts game you have to release a short every two to three days and keep doing it consistently, youtube punishes you hard for not doing it consistently.
>>47627577The community that raids Fubuki's chat to make fun of her for not getting 1 million subs before Gura.
>>47627603>It's because they're good contentfucking delusional
>>47627556troons and their allies are the biggest misogynists you can ever met
>>47627459Take any metric in this thread and compare Kiara against her genmates. Chances are she ends up dead last in most audience-related ones aka not Kiara-only stats like hours streamed.
>>47626264Wow, they act exactly like the Gura schizos here and they have the nerve to call her fans toxic lol
>>47627599>they beg for people to watch and save their boys>they dont even watch their own boyskek
>>47627497No, they have collabed at least twice before (that weird kiwi game and Minecraft one month after Mumei debuted)
>>47627630So it basically had nothing to do with Gura at all and she would've gotten the same results if she just consistently created shorts.
>>47627335I meant chumbies you moron. Follow the fucking thread
>>47627187>I asked why don't YOU think it's worthy of praiseI don't think it is worth of praise because it is detrimental to her careerVtubing is a full blown escapist hobby, people watch it to forget about their lives and embark in a hour of distraction from their lives (reason for which it skyrocketed during the pandemics).A professional vtuber "Keeping it real" is as dumb as a professional waitress doing likewise, some people might find it refreshing that the waitress having a bad day makes it a point to share with her patrons but sure as hell the great majority will pick the booth tended by that cute waitress that is always smiling and blow him kisses when he's leaving
>>47627646filian grew big on shorts and got literally shafted the other month when they changed the algo regardless
>>47627656>the community = the 10 people who '''''''raided'''''' FBKKEK
>>47627658that anon might be underestimating how important namedropping gura was but they are, and I don't even like the tranny. They're still tiktok shit, but they're good for what they are.
>>47627731All her clickbait shit got pushed after dramabaiting with gura
>>47627672It seems all the Gura schizos on /vt/ are Holostar fans.
>>47627731No. Bae made a bunch of consistent shorts and it did jack shit.The process goes like this:>Leech Gura for an initial super-popular short, and then keep making them so the algo has more shorts to surface to the kiddies who watch that shit. Thus the ball keeps rolling. Gura did step one (leeching herself, kek) but didn't do step two. Bae did step two but not step one. Rin and Yuko did both steps.
>>47627151>>47627255Those are some Korean hands.
>>47627668I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying she has a larger audience than anyone else in Myth, I'm saying she has her own unique audience, just like everyone else. (There's also obviously a different mix & mash between everyone, but THEY do have different core audiences, hence people having oshis at all)I don't think you fully understand the concept of "niches" and why filling out different niches is important, even when some are less popular than others.
IT'S EVERYONE'S FAVORITE /#/ THREAD CELEBRITYhttps://twitter.com/KHolosimp/status/1648373287960051712What the fuck happened yesterday? All I'm seeing is>Tempus fag freaking out about JP and begging people for money (>>47625355)>Holo fags (Example provided) freaking out and begging for Star views>Sisters on the dox site freaking out and blaming Gura (>>47626264)Shit's everywhere, except ironically, Reddit.
>>47627829Talk to me when Gura can get those numbers herself before attributing Rins success entirely to one video with the lazy shark whores name in the title.
>>47627656based on the picrel, you answer your question, anon
>>47626696>Marine>Most recent short Apr 16th
Kiara minecraft 7k sub no overlap, EU timezone to blame lads? Bae>kiara???
>>47627285You mean gura can’t get vod at 5 million? 3 million? Multiple at 2 million? Songs at 30 million? Songs at 15 million? She didn’t need gura’s name so why don’t her other views match that. For what it’s worth you’re a retard for making the comparisons
>>47627883It’d get deleted on reddit
>>47627646So if I were a shit yt channel and I followed the formula of sigma music over boardwalk pesky soprano breaking reacher I would need to upload like 5? And on and on? Is it because yt Alf wants to know I watched one from that channel and give me the rest after?
>>47627883>>Holo fagsHolopro fags (which is just an alternate spelling of Holostar fags).
>>47627923Gura gets Rin's shorts view counts on hours-long streams, anon. They're not even playing the same game.
>>47627883>What the fuck happened yesterday?They're unironically picking things posted in this thread.The first place talking about both of those changes as a sign of something bigger, at least in this board, was this thread.Those retards and dramafags all camp this thread for the next scoop and that particular retard just so happened to enter a flamewar with numberfags containment breakers on twitter >which he lostand they got to his mind and now he's going full blown homo-literal-beggar asking for people to give Holostars money
>>47627836>Hm how do I spin this to make it seem like IdolENs success with shorts is entirely due to Gura and HoloEN being a big fat flop isn't their faultRetard. Shorts rise or fall based on their content and engagement. One video with a clickbait title means fuck all in the scheme of things. There are dozens of Youtube clip channels pumping out Gura shorts that don't get 1 tenth of the traction.
>>47627366Gura's short barely qualifies as a short. It was a low effort literal shit post. I'd like to see what numbers she could put out with an actual short before judging.
"Holoprosimp"Anyone who calls themselves that is first in line to get an atomic wedgie
>>47627997Fair, didn't think about it when typing.
>>47628045Rins clickbait game is good, no dobut, so she gets credit for some of her success. But take away that initial Gura short and none of it would have happened to the extent it did.You can cope and seethe about this all you want but you can't change the reality.For what it's worth, it's not like I'm mad at Rin for doing it. The scrabblers have to do what they must to survive.
>>47627134Lol, of course he did. As if anyone disliked this kino.
>>47627923>Rins success300k subs/1k CCV = success on her honeymoon period, when we here calling Council's a failure. And don't hit me with that holobuff vs small corpo debuff, they're all vtubers at the end of the day
>>47627397Maybe I’m biased but 40 odd vods at 1 million, 2, million, 3 million and 5 million is impressive. What about the 30 million for a song? The multiple clips and karaoke’s about gura over a million. I hope you’re getting paid to look like a retard
>>47627883>Reddit.I think it reached it some time ago, but on vyt sub. Not holo sub.
>>47627836>Bae>Music shorts
>>47627969>She didn’t need gura’s name so why don’t her other views match thatThey do. She has multiple shorts with over 1 million views that aren't related to Gura at all. Chumbies are once again coping hard because there's an EN vtuber inclining while shark whore is in terminal recline and can't be bothered to do anything more than shit meme stuff like Baldis Basics.
>>47628040Funny thing is none of them mentioned the sub milestones which was the most important part
>>47627883It's cause of Rikka and Temma's birthday with their Niji merch that's why you're seeing people melting down
>POPULAR>DEMAND
>>47628162Isn't all that stuff from 2021 back from before Gura became irrelevant? She got a 194k back then but she can't break 90k these days. Those numbers have as much relevance as Kizuna AIs first videos
>>47628040yeah but this is a week+ old news and the various info >we had were already well compiled, something has to be happened for all the twitter allies to go on the warpath (kek)
>>47627656Oh my god when will you let it go retard
>>47628191Their current cope is that the girls are getting hit too because council had cheap merch for their outfit reveals (don’t think outfit reveals ever had merch outside of council).
>>47627883literally homosisters mad that they have nijitier merch, probably too much making fun of them bite them back
>>47627883You can thank Luxiem for bringing these Kpop stans into our niche
>>47628045>before mentioning Guraa few between 100k-250k, most under 100k>after mentioning Gura (and the short immediatly before doing it)none of them under 250kWe'll never know if mentioning Gura was what made her channel popular. But that's why you don't do shit like that, because if she hadn't do it noone would be accusing her of leeching.
>>47628180Gura will forever be the legendary daisenpai of EN vtubing that kickstarted the entire industry. She's the most subbed vtuber in the world and is unlikely to be dethroned until she decides to quit.You seem to think chumbuds are insecure about Rin, but I assure you 95% of them don't even know who she is.
>>47628179That was actually smart, at least the main retard.The problem is not lack of subs, is lack of sales.Subs to unlock custom merch is an indirect way to measure interest from the audience, but a more direct way is the obvious one>buying fucking merch when it is releasedThey didn't get custom merch privileges because they don't get subs, they lost it because they're not selling enough to justify the logistics involved when, as anons put correctly, the same people dealing with that could be doing a second run of Gura's or Chloe's merch
>>47628191Hakka bday in a few days so we’ll see if Tempus got smacked as well
Watching these homobeggars cope about merch. They think the tempus underwear and mumei's custom made keychain are standardized merch.
>>47628323I think Myth got something for their party outfit, but it's a group merch.
>>47627528>>47627603What do we say about gura’s vods or her music? Is that somehow also cope? Why are her super creative shorts not at 5 million or 15. It should have already surpassed gura or people will keep getting the wrong idea
>>47627869And I'm saying that if you take Ame, Ina, Mori or Gura and give them an objectively bad attribute (like we are saying Kiara bluntness is) they too will end up with a "core audience" or a unique audience similar to Kiara's.It's not an attribute, it's a debuff. It pushes people away. Kiara does have many good points but don't try to say that what people don't like about her is actually good or a needed niche. Her fans like it because it's Kiara's "attribute" not because it's an inherently good thing
>>47627775>detrimental to her careerI don't think that's the case, I think it's endeared her to a core audience that (albeit smaller than possible) will stick with her for a long time to come and has also enabled her to keep streaming consistently for the time that she's been in Hololive. I don't really understand why you think it's detrimental, out of everyone in Hololive EN, do you really think Kiara is the one who seems like their career is in the most jeopardy? You look at things too black and white, if somethings makes some people dislike you and some like you, it's not bad or good, just divisive.
>>47628289>week+ old news and the various info >we had were already well compiledThat particular retard might have come to this place after swearing to stay away and picked it.He was earlier here shilling Fauna's "sister", it might have been by then
>>47628066Funny thing is that Ollie basically calls herself that
>>47628365 (me)>none of them under 250kand *many* of them over 1M
>>47628399They tried to spin Bae's latest as standardized
>>47628323unironically i believe there was a guiding hand toward Council decision to keychain spam, but it's the shipping costs issue not the standardization.
I wonder what'll happen if its revealed only stars JP will be hit with standardized merch. will Tempus sisters suddenly stop caring about this drama?
>>47628399It could be at least for the underwear, they already found someone to produce underwear cause of Nene’s merch and just printing a simple design doesn’t sound like it costs much. It’s just that tempus has been riding on that joke for months that it seems unique.
I couldn't give less of a shit if homos get worse or good merch. It's cutting them out from 3ds that should be happening.Can't believe I have to hear my oshi, who sold more $ worth of merch last BD than homos will ever make added together from all metrics, can't do a 3d live because Rikka needed his 4k ccv shilling stream for generic merch. What the FUCK is cover smoking?
>>47628129That’s the thing they’ve been doing shorts for months including the other members it takes off now and their shills say it’s creativity
>>47628419>GuraTerminally lazy>MoriContrarian to the extreme>AmeExtremely flaky and inconistent>InaLiteral sleeping aid
>>47628419>Her fans like it because it's Kiara's "attribute" not because it's an inherently good thingWell that's where we disagree, I think it's one of the things that makes her core audience like her, not that they like it just because it's something she does. You can't really prove it either way so it's purely anecdotal.
>>47628323They gonna get rude awakening then. Mori showcased that girls merch wasn't hit by this.
would people still be fucked by the retarded shipping fees with the standardized merch?
>>47623661Huh adding a "standardized" merch for each talent that was available year round in the Holoshop was one of the suggestion I added on the survey actually.Importantly I said ADDED, not replacing any of the current merch. I don't think any reasonable fan would get mad at that as long as it was "in addition too" and not "instead of".
>>47628253She added 2 more to the million list this year added 5 more last year. So your point is wrong
>>47628180>Chumbies are once again coping hard because there's an EN vtuber inclining while shark whore is in terminal reclineHow can you type shit like this with a straight face. You think fucking Rin is on her way to Kiara level, let alone Gura?
>>47628470Oh no Holosisters. IRyS already had standardized merch months ago
>>47628562what rises shipping fees is weight right? so probably not. I said before some chuubas might end up benefiting from standardized merch.
>>47628646No it’s fucking box size cause DHL fucked Cover raw
Niji sisters are still watching bettel alright you can tell from the graph
>>47628399 >standardized merch>all of council has different merch typesthey just don't get it do they?
>>47628611is the homo's standardized birthday merch available all year round?
>>47628643Shitrys
>>47628562yes. Temma and Rika's new merch is $84 for me when shipping is added. a button, keychain, postcard and tshirt is not worth that much kek
>>47628643>Hololive does standardized merch better than NijisanjiMaybe it's not such a bad idea after all...
>>47628180That’s weird her highest vod is under 100k and her song doesn’t seem on track to 1 million. Maybe spending an hour talking about gura will give them a boost to
>>47628557>I think it's one of the things that makes her core audience like herYes if I see people hang around the guy who smells like shit I'm going to assume they enjoy they smell. Explains how there's not a lot of people doing it too.
>>47628704jesus christ, and here I thought that buying merch at cons was a literal scam
>>47628611yup a good "essential pack" all year around where you can shop per talent, gen, branch to cash in hype from newfags or just round up birthdays/anniversaries it's a no-brainer, but i understand the inventory challenges and in second time the brutal shipping costs toward NA.
>>47627883>Tempus fag freaking out about JP and begging people for money (>>47625355)>Holo fags (Example provided) freaking out and begging for Star views>Sisters on the dox site freaking out and blaming Gura (>>47626264)what's the common denominator here? All involving Tempus/Holostars HAHAHAHA NICE JOB OMEGA, POPULAR DEMAND! Now even the girls are getting pulled in, even those who did not even acknowledge their existence
>>47626480>>47626646While it helped, Astel's incline isn't thanks to Vsaikyou, so as long as he keeps collabing he'll be fine.
>>47628399That KFP faggot said that all the Council girls had keychains for their outfit merch so that was standardized, ignoring that Fauna had her gamer sweat towel
>>47628680with such a low ccv the graph is always going to look choppy
>>47628387Theory is that their first birthday gets the old merch treatment since it'd be seen as unfair, but subsequent birthdays get the Nijification treatment. I think Magni is the next one applicable(?).
>>47628439>I don't think that's the case, I think it's endeared her to a core audience that (albeit smaller than possible)That's why I call it detrimental. There is no "earth B" and it's not possible to compare an alt-Kiara that did everything exact the same except for that particular aspect of that personality and measure the outcome.IMO she traded a bigger number of people that would be equally loyal equally passionate about her if only she didn't display that trait for a smaller number of people that are endeared by it.But, and that's the thing: I don't think Kiara should ever change it at this point. There is no benefit in trading an existing audience, however small, for the potential of a larger one.It is the same reason I dislike male collabs and, despite watching Kronii every zatsu and watching Vesper every zatsu I stopped watching both (and all of Tempus) after they decided to gamble on their existing audience for the potential of a larger one.I think Kiara's honesty is detrimental to her career but if I were to advise her I would say>keep it, by try to make up for it
Laplus in less than 5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSF0966y4oM
>>47628419>if you take Ame, Mori and give them an objectively bad attribute they too will end up with a "core audience"They have extremely shitty attitudes and while Amelia's numbers don't reflect the full extent of that (yet), Mori's certainly do.
>>47628683They don't really know what standardized merch actually means, or they didn't until they saw Rikka's.It means literal mass-produced pins, acrylic pictures, tapestries, or generic canvas bags where all that changes is the art. stuff made in factories that churns that exact thing out all day, just changing the .png for the customer (whether it be an anime, a video game, a vtubing company, or a sports team). Custom keychains with unique custom shapes aren't that.
>>47628683They think any type of keychain means it's standard merch. They would call a 24k good keychain with a holo shaped sapphire standardized merch
>>47628387Maybe they each get *1* run of custom merch? HomoJP have had their turn.
>>47628784it's 4 digits "low view" anon, not 2views. It shouldn't look that choppy, you can just compare it to his previous streams.
>>47628802Lapu-tan my eternal beloved.
>>47628700No I think that's just his b-day merch.Importantly I said the girls in my suggestion, I think most people are aware at this point that StarsJP at least isn't worth the trouble. The girls, in JP, EN and even ID, unquestionably are.
>>47627883Reddit doesn't care about holostars except for their own designated threads
>>476288025 what?
>>47628769>so as long as he keeps collabing he'll be fine.If you watch Astel for long enough you will realize>as long as he keepsand >Astelis something not to be expected at all.
>>47628934yeah
>>47621409>Below 20k GuraCan't believe those schizo posts from years ago are becoming true.Below 10k Gura will actually be a thing
>>47628798>I don't think Kiara should ever change it at this point. There is no benefit in trading an existing audience, however small, for the potential of a larger one.I don't understand, you think people are watching Kiara FOR the stupid phrasing that can be taken as rude she occassionally has?And they're going to notice if she develops tact?>Man Kiara hasn't implied she's the only one in EN doing any work for 3 months, I'm going to have to drop her!
>>47628929The other thing they omitted was Rikka saying no more anniversary merch iirc.
I know a lot people are not the biggest holostars fans but if the same was happing to hololive the stars fans would try to help you guys out. The holopro family has to watch out for themselves.
>>47628853They modified what standardized merch means in their head. Ame can sell a real custom made gun for her next birthday, but if it also has a keychain or a badge it automatically becomes standardized merch
>>47626264>if [famous unicorn friendly holo girl] acknowledges homos existence [insert schizo thinking here]EVERY TIME
>>47628981(you)
>>47627883This is coming from the nigger who said >Since when numbers are important?LMAOOOOOOOOO YEAH KRIS I WONDER SINCE WHEN INDEED
>>47629023t. Kris
>>47629023Some would, most wouldn't. You underestimate how many of them revile the girls for not helping Stars become more popular, to the point that they just want nothing to do with them now. This especially happens among english speaking fans of StarsJP.
>>47627883>Shit's everywhere, except ironically, Reddit.Why would someone try to discuss Holostars and something about them alone on reddit? Reddit is the "Holostars collabing with Hololive" stronghold/begging center.
>>47628981>Can't believe those schizo posts from years ago are becoming true.HERE ANONS, a mathematical riddle for you guys>If Gura median in a certain point of time is under 20k, what is the proportion of her streams in that period are below 20k>zero?>at least half?(99% of people will get this one wrong)
>>47629023I'm not fucking spending money on some people I will never watch. I am not wasting time watching people I don't care about. Sorry. I don't even watch half the Holos, because I do not have the time, let alone sitting through a fucking Holostar stream. Go away.
>>47629023Ogey, that's nice. I still don't and never will plan to help the stars
>>47629049as another anon pointed out >>47628440it should also line up with the catalog posts of quad-tempoop 3view of yesterday. Sprinkle also the downgrade of stars and you mindbreak the holoprosimp
>>47628374Gura will be remembered as a lazy alcoholic who squandered the miracle EN start and the one who destroyedher branch through complacency and greed. Nothing more.Also it's a fascinating dynamic the ENfags have right now. Cuckbeats claim anything in 2021 can't be used against Mori because she's changed while Chumcucks are permanently stuck in 2021 and can't admit Gura isn't even Kanata level these days let alone hanging with Miko, Pekora and Marine
>>47628758>All involving Tempus/HolostarsWhat do you expect? Tempus fans were cut from the same cloth as Luxiem's
Gavis Bottel
>>47629023Bless holostars. But it doesn't matter though, i still hope this is the end of Homo in holo.
>>47629023I can't save the stars. I don't have any legitimate desire to watch them. I'll never buy their merch. And I'll get mad if they fuck with my anime women hobby by getting more involved.There's nothing I can do for them simply because of the way I am, what I like, my personality. I'm a dry well. If they rely on me or people like me to save them, they'll perish.
>>47629110Some of them
>>47628748Just because you made it into an ironic shitpost doesn't mean you're not agreeing with me.
>>47628990>you think people are watching Kiara FOR the stupid phrasing that can be taken as rudeLiking people that "keep it real" is really not that uncommon. And what I consider detrimental is not just "stupid phrasing that can be taken as rude", but being upfront with her likes and dislikes, specially when it involves her company and her colleagues.>And they're going to notice if she develops tact?kek, yes they would.>Kiara used to be cool, now she only play games and look cute>that's not "keeping it real", I'm going back to Calli
>>47627883You knwo what's depressing? The people responding to this going "WELL I WATCH CLIPS AND YOU SHOULDN'T TELL PEOPLE HOW TO ENJOY THEM" as if watching clips instead of actually watching the people help them.
>>47627883>Very well, Gondor answers the call>.......i will watch some clips!
>>47629191>nijisisters are now resorting to botting Bettelfucking knew this shit would happen
>/#/ actually defending Gura's below 20kNevermind they are now tribalfagging about the homos instead of ignoring their existence.
>>47629191>Church near a cliff over the sea graphHoly shit they are truly trying to bot the clown.
>>47629110AIIEEEEEEE! DELETE! DELETE! DELETE! Gura is reclining! Don't destroy our make-believe rrat!
>>47629226Lol, this guy has to be a troll.
>>47629180So much intense seethe for one silly shork. So irrelevant and unimportant that you spend all day writing about her and thinking about her.
>>47626264>>47627335these are literally posts you see often /here/i'm starting to believe it really is holosisters seething at gura 24/7 and not for the purpose of shitposting but because they're retarded enough to believe the shit they're spouting
>>47629191KEK homosisters are getting desperate now, prolly contacted Nijisisters for a reliable viewfarm
>>47629214>>47629226I'm dying here
>>47629199At least half of them. That's the definition of the median.and the only thing you can say for certain by looking at the number.>if the median is X, half the set is below or equal X and half the set above or equal X
>>47626536
>>47629315>prolly contactedThey are the same people
>going all out with Stars, StarsEN and Gura anti-posting for the last few threadsI'm guessing there's another yab or suspension I missed
Kiara Minecraft with Mumei guest is less interesting than literally any random thing Fauna would feel like streaming at this time?
>>47629023You and your oshis are no ones who've leeched enough. Abayo faggots, thank Allah for the IPO (PBUH)
>>47629226>>47629366Incredible
>>47629180>while Chumcucks are permanently stuck in 2021 and can't admit Gura isn't even Kanata level these daysTrue! Now let me look at this graph below, hmmm Gura 2021. Oh..........>>47629110
>>47629370People are finally realizing that the Stars are not doing good. If that little bitch Gura acknowledge them they would be doing good
/MANS/ doesn't seem to care about the merch news, are they unaware of them?
>>47629393When Fauna does something, she doesn't flail around randomly going on "adventures", she builds something. Yesterday was an exception. No one watches Minecraft for "adventures" unless it's actually something like killing the wither/endrdragon/warden.
>>47629110Random post to comment this on and I'm not even sure you're the original maker but I appreciate all of these charts and how clean they look.
>>47629315is this the first Tempus member that's ever been botted? I dont remember any of the first gen boys graphs looking like that
>>47629292I'm a JPchad. We're so superior to ENfags that nothing you do even registers anymore. I observe your slapfights with NijiEN like a King observes the quarrels of his peasants. Your branch is utterly irrelevant and will be relegated to a footnote in the history of vtubing "Here lies HoloEN, they never got a 200k"
>>47629370>yab or suspensionThis time it's the Tempus fans + Cover's move of standardizing their merch. Well, I guess we can blame Gura for not following them on Twitter
>>47629445NO STOPDON'T POST DATASHE'S IRRELEVANT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP WATCHING HER
>>47629472Right now it's a /stars/ problem.
>>47629226>>47629366Nah man ain't no way these niggas are serious
>>47629368
>>47629191Damn even if it was a Z bettel gaming streams rarely get over 2k these days good for him.
>>47629472i mean if those are sisters that merch is bread and butter and probably better of some stupid gadget that raise the cost of the pack by 40% while they can't buy 150 pins to make a photoshoot.
>>47628419All 5 members of myth have debilitating personality flaws in one way or another
>>47629243>/#/ actually defending Gura's below 20kYou mean the thing that keeps happening since mid 2021? This "Gura sub 20k lololol" shit is retarded, that's her place for 2 years now.
>>47629214>>47629366>WELL I WATCH CLIPSPeople are this dumb? They STILL didn't figure out that merely watching clips is not enough, and that the twitter retard confused cause and consequence?Hololive didn't get popular BECAUSE people watched clips, Hololive CLIPS got popular because Hololive is interesting and hence, became popular.Unless Holostars is interesting and people REALLY LIKE their clips (instead of watching them just to "upvote" the view counter) that will do fuck all.
>>47629518t. nijisister
>>47629472Only effects JP as far as anyone knows.
GAWR WHORACHUMSEA
Kiara and Mumei are clip watchers...
>>47629370Eat shit sister, you will never ever associate shitting on stars with nijiniggers only. Death upon the stars and death upon the misbegotten chink dicksucking company that keeps tricking yagoo into thinking they'll work, Anykara
>>47629393Kiara needs to drop the fucking kayfabe and start sharing. She's interesting and charming in contexts like GIRLSTALK but she closes up in other collabs.
>>47629370luxiem is in the shitters and somehow killed the NijiEN girls as well. that company is a joke. hex is also suspended for some dumb shit i cant remember. what else is there to talk about besides holos
>>47628936I do watch Astel. And if you did you'd know the change in direction he's embraced lately, he's really happy with collabing and all the subs he's gotten, and he even collabed with 3 people earlier today (two different streams) so yeah, I do think he'll be fine.
>>47629497yeah, some people unironically like to monitor tempus' graph just to shit on them, so if they ever had a graph like NijiEN's here for sure this thread already shat on them already.So yes, this is most likely the first time for tempus. >And what a timing too
GurathreadGuraboardGurasiteGurahobbyGurainternetGuraworldGuraGuraGuraGuraGuraGuraGuraGuraGuraGuraGuraGura
>>47629515>If only Gura acknowledge my oshi, I would've bought his merch moreAre they really pushing this narrative?
>>47629484Thanks, my only hope is that you guys get as many fun reading those as I get making them.
>>47629315>reliable
>>47629226>>47629366>submissive male multiuse (hiatus/retired)
>>47629476eh prepping gear and consumables for the party is a good filler once in a while, can't wait for more branches tho.
>>47629607ouch that's gotta hurt JP homos, they've been around longer and now get shafted like that
>>47627883The dox site had an almost entirely dead comment section until shortly after Tempus debuted, when it started accumulating thousands of comments attacking the Hololive girls and desperately pushing for more dox. Odd coincidence.
>>47629663>sisters said clown will dethrone Vesper>now they have to bot just to get him the same numbers Vesper gets on an average gaming streamuh..
>>47629657I know his change of direction (despite opting out of his recent contents) but I don't get my hopes up. I've seen him go from hyper motivated to what Ame calls "Potato mode" several times
Lap's jwu voice is pretty sexy
>>47629472Hakka's birthday is this week. We'll see if Tempus are affected then.
>>47629226>>47629366It can't be serious. Right?
>>47623438That’s a clip/music channel, she stteams on Twitch where she’s usually a 2/3view
>>47629518BASED BASED BASED!
>>47629191Wow, I didn't think this would start to happen that fast
>>47629710I think the talents and the fans are used to it. As long as they still have jobs, get some promotion, and get to do 3D stuff occasionally no one's going to raise that much of a fuss. They've been on the bottom so long there's not really any sense of entitlement, unlike with say Luxiem fans.
>>47629445>Dotted line going upwards because of return stream after 4 month hiatuskek
>>47629518It's 5 AM in Jakarta, why do you wake up early just to spew this nonsense every day?
>>47629530First they came for the JPstars, and I did nothing, because I didn't watch the JPstars...
>>47629472why would they care, they don't buy merch
>>47629747Thanks for the reminder LapGOD
>>47629859Why don't you just admit EN is complete shit and a stain on the Hololive brand?
>>47629023lemao
>>47629739Both are actually sinking below the 2k line.I'm seeing the funniest outcome ahead: the only star with his metrics over 2k will be>STARSJP ROBERU
>>47629902They watch a lot of clips though which is almost as good. Like 90% as good I think.
>>47629960they'd rather do disruptive attention seeking rainbow SC's and menshi gifting than spend that same amount of money on a voice pack
>Kiara talking about Gura's "Europe isnt a continent" comment and is now having a pity party about how EU is neglectedkek
>>47629938how the fuck do we save them?? what can be done? They need a meme or something.
>>47629921so you're not denying you're a disgusting brownskin that's less than a flea. got it
>>47630043I mean, the EU is a lost cause at this point.
>>47630047they need gura mention
>>47629921The only thing I'll admit is that "fans" like you are complete shit and a stain on the Hololive brand.
>>47630047Chase any trend they can chase.
>>47630108yeah we've so many options and nothing works. We have Kiara, Kiara, also Kiara...
>>47629366>I'll TRY to watch more of their clipsLMAO They can't even get people to commit to watching their clips
>>47630047Watch clips! That will save them for sure!
>>47629518
>>47629110>2022 data>Not 2023I guess chumbuds were busy tribalfagging yesterday
>>47630043Funnily enough, Kiara would likely NEVER EVER EVER have been hired if she lived in Austria during the auditions, or if she disclosed she would like to move back there one year after being hired.
>>47629672This guy has to be a troll. Has to be.If this is who the stars are relying on shit's fucked
>>47630108EU should probably graduate. Maybe she can rebrand as Lesser Eurasia to get some more international appeal
>>47630244Don't forget Vesper and one of the new homos
>>47630317She might not have been hired but they were certainly aware of her non-renewable visa category. She didn't have any choice to stay no matter what.
>TOP FUCKING KEKSome lads are duking it out in the comment section of that twitter retard retarded thread.I say the king of unicorns is winning but that's me
>>47630356>Anyone who says that watching one or two clips a week isn't actually supporting your "oshi" is a gachikoi and should be weeded out of the stars community by forcekek
>>47630047all Vesper has to do is play a game that hits his strengths and not artsy/puzzle like games that bore people because he doesnt understand them. papers please was a decent stream.Bettel im not too sure. He pidgeonholed himself into sort of a man slut now. He's very lucky he has the best numbers of his gen
>>47630356Seems no worse than the average EN fan to me. He'd fit right in over at global
>>47630448>they were certainly aware of her non-renewable visa categoryI wouldn't put past Hololive management, in April 2020 (at their most retarded phase of the entire history of the company), not having checked that point
>>47630356>Kick out the StarsJP gachikoisAnd that will help how? Shut up bitch, you don't even matter on the topic of sister's merchAre they calling this clown out? If not yikes, they're so stupid
>>47630452HOLY BASADO
>>47630547Imagine a non-paying customer who literally doesn't like the Stars enough to even watch their streams saying that paying gachikoi should be chased out of the communityI bet the Stars themselves would be absolutely horrified at that sentiment
>>47630452
>>47630547Let him cook.
>>47630452THE TRUE KING!
>>47630452Uh hes a nousagi iirc, dropping the gulping semen line with his face as pfp what a power move
>>47627335This comment literally is your average brown headcanon you see here. Not a single truth except the "dead subs"
Kris the HoloPro simp will lead Holostars renaissance with his tweets. Remember the name.
>>47630047they're at a crossroads. On one side, they might think they've already made it by getting into Holostars and try to ignore their dwindling numbers (and hope management does the same). On the other, putting in some work and try to establish the brand in foreign lands just like Myth did. I'm guessing they'll go with the former and hope the fans save them (kind of a reverse Holocure)
>>47630617>tfw Tempus brought in new fans>tfw they're all twitter troons who don't watch your streams and want to expel fans who do because they're "parasocial"The curse of EN. Happened with Hololive now Holostars.
>>47630452Also the faggot who replies to him.>U already turn into gachikoi for realThe kind of audience Kris the HomoFellator wants for Holos.
>>47629672I seriously saw the same guy a couple of hrs ago talking about Hex fucking up then somehow spun it into shitting on hololive out of nowhere.
>>47630737Someone please, please, post that one Fra tweet abouot how twitter support =/= youtube interaction.
They should ask Oberatai for help, he should spam it in the end credits of co-ed/holopro collabs that they should petition abolishing standardized merch and watch more of his clips(not the streams, just clips Kek)
>>47630244You have Veibae, Shylily, Saruei, and Froot.>b-but those aren't in Hololi-Cope.
>>47630737this retard and oboretai do have the Hololive's saviourfag spirit at least
>>47630753>I'm guessing they'll go with the former and hope the fans save them (kind of a reverse Holocure)That would be a nice premise for a Stars game>StarsCureExcept it is running in reverse, and it stars have to chase and catch the fans while these try to run away.Could even be a multiplayer game, like those FPS variants of "diseased vs. healthy" battles where if a stars touch you (or shoots you with their guns) you become a fan and must chase others
>>47630452>8 viewsYup, chumbuds are taking the standardized merch as a scapegoat of Gura's recline.
EN3 TODAY
>niji gold>/#/ devolves into homobeggars and nijifags persecutionbased
>>47630960They could have a powerup where mori drops into the game and suddenly the fans all get attracted to you but then after 25 seconds when the buff wears off they start running away even faster
>>47630617That's what all Stars fans do to Holos.
>>47630960something like SCP but instead of specimens, homos
>>47631037
>>47630753Red shota unironically has the Kiara mentality of "fuck numbers, i play what I want". At least he sells more merch than fucking Axel though
>>47630452MY KNEES!
WOW! Laplus is in a multiplayer game with lots of GIANT PHALIC SHAPED OBJECTS likely being driven around by guys!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSF0966y4oM
>>47630955Not vtubers. Streamers with avatars.
>>47631073You mean the > on EN? He really sells more merch than Axel? lel
>>47630452HOLY BAAAAASED
>>47631008>homos are 3viewsYup, sisters are seething at Gura as a deflection from the homo failure.
>>47631038kek, could even have three factions>the homos>the transformed fans>the unicornsThe later are immune from the diseased touch or the stars touch but they have a hard task: to prevent the diseased mobs to enter a sacred garden and infect the girls with their cooties
>>47630955>mixing indies in thereah, of course it's a fucking vshill doing this shitfuck off to your bitches and leave indies alone
JP7 in 9 days
>>47631073anon, their differences are so miniscule from how small they all are, yeah this included Bettel and Vesper
Even if you don't like watching the bois yourself and prefer the girls . You can still be an ally by retweeting the stars and telling friends, family, and coworkers to watch them this is the minimum activity that you should be able to do to help.
>>47623531It was 1.8k before the cover
>>47630955rorurumao even
>>47631205Isn't something supposed to drop today? Someone last night was saying the subreddit has changed. I don't know enough about reddit to confirm or deny that.
>>47631205EN3 tomorrow
>>47631232Please stop telling me how to support the Stars, you toxic gachikoi. I'm going to support them in my own way, with positive vibes sent via my brain waves.
>>47630753Let that guy cook, clip watchers vs stream watchers vs merch buyers.
>>47631263Reddit banner is about as reliable as Miko trying to get gold.
>>47630955>Veibae, Frootopinion discarded>Shylily, Sarueioh, thoseI like their accents, but saruei just doesn't stream, which leaves sexo incarnate, who is sadly german with all that implies
i dont understand why sisters are begging. Stars JP can easily get views on songs, so why cant those same sisters giving views and mass likes to the songs do the same for their regular streams. why beg for people that arent interested in the boys to do the work for you?
>>47631232(you)
>>47630317Thats a huge stretch
>>47631263last times the banner changed we got tempiss and tempoop, so now we'll get tempuke. I don't make the rules.
>>47631393
>>47631232I toldy friend group about Hololive a couple off times and I have never mentioned the stars.
YAGOO RELEASE EN3, MAKE YOUR STOCKS GO TO THE MOON
Oh no sisters. Kiara is confirming that HoloENs are friends
>>47631422I'd love to know who the 6th runner up was for Myth. Whether it's one of the Council girls (or even IRyS) or someone in another company now, or even someone who never ended up becoming a vtuber.
>>47631500You monster
>>47625215>200Uyu inclining?
>>47631422Explain how there's still no other EN from that part of EU in Niji and Holo (EU in general) for 3 years now?
Kiara blasting all the rrats jesas
>>47631393Women can't sit still long enough to watch streams.
>>47631582>Kronii & Morilol nowho konws about mori tho
>>47631491>Bill Burr on why Holostars failedhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZH9PSWP8p4o
>>47631582just wait for the next time Kiara gets sad and starts saying she has no friends again
>>47631615you made the first statement
>>47631584Didn't Finana used to say she was a finalist for myth auditions?
>>47628506But equality...
>>47631232>watch themHold up man! That's putting too much expectations on them. Clips should be enough.
>>47628399Koro-san just got some custom merch. Or is Koro-san not a girl?
>>47631747yeah but dyrbi
>>47631654>look at Holostars>No one in Holostars got CCVid. Nobody. They had been streaming in front of 2-300 views each night for 2 years >Not to mention its a female streamer subsidized branch. We gave you a fucking branch, where are all the homobeggers? That place should be packed with homobeggers.>Making clips, liking the streaming, commenting like the holofags do.
>>47631747Finana is retarded and probably thinks the first callback round was the finals. She had no content creation experience at that point. She wasn't even a vtweeter yet.
>>47631621I missed it, what did she say?
>>47631802I think you misread the post
Given that Gura and Fauna are away today, isn't this stream by Kiara as good as EN gold?
>>47631180>By shitting on the homosPlot a better deflection Chumpedo
>>47631871Bae?
>>47631853Just because they don't collab a lot or publicly post it doesn't mean they don't do it behind doors and they are friends
>>47631903What's she doing today?
>>47631871No one will care since is Kiara
>>47631871Kronii may be playing kusoge but she's playing UNCONTESTED SLOT(?) kusoge so she may very well pass Kiara.
>>47631871It's not insurmountable for Kronii, but it would also not be a shock if she doesn't beat it.
>>47631942Me
>>47630315are you blind or just retarded
>>47631871Ame guerill-nevermind, those don't get more than 6k anyways, so does NijiEN. Kiara free win for now