It’s fucking over…

[Anonymous No.]

Joshikek EXPLAIN!!????

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
It's almost 12am already you indog

[Anonymous No.]

I' m sorry anon, but I can't explain why she's playing Granblue AFTER the anniversary

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
OH NO!
Anyways...

[Anonymous No.]

I fail to understand what's wrong with Oshi no Ko.
Multiple jp holos have expressed that they enjoy reading the manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>more gachaslop from JP

[Anonymous No.]

Stop making these dumb bait threads for anyone referencing Oshi No Mid. It’s such a nothingburger and the series celebrates idols more than it does villainizes it. Yes, even after the murder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543131
Guild wars coming up. Maybe she wants to join Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
Insecurities and EOPs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543239
>Celebrates idols
>"Idols don't have human rights and should be allowed to have boyfriends"
Pick one

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
I honestly can’t believe Koyori would be murdered by the father of her children, I would never even think of doing such a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543328
Pekora must be stopped. Though at least it's not light GW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
it's a bad manga

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
Maybe its a call for help, This cute hag is running out of eggs….. Anon help her!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543328
Yes actually there aren't many grandblue players in hololive so she said she will start playing for the upcoming holo niji collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
Because it portraits parasocialism and idol culture in a bad light

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
Your oshi is like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
Every vtuber that watches that anime has a bf, they see themselves in it.
You can't prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
>female mangaka

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
>they hated him because he told the truth
be cause of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543863
take your meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543928
Also this.
It's "idol culture is bad" the anime and makes Hololive fans mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
Because westerners are bad at reading. Ai is pregnant dies to deranged fan blame idol culture. Idol culture would have kept her from being 16 and pregnant and would have avoided her death. Stuff like this happens all the time in the manga. Japanese people enjoy it because it’s just a fun read none of this is groundbreaking for them. It’s like if a great movie came out about hollywood elites being pedos. Americans wouldn’t be surprised they would just be enjoying a great movie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543917
Aka akasaka is not a female

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544036
You really expect someone to take a manga page full of texts seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544101
>It’s like if a great movie came out about hollywood elites being pedos. Americans wouldn’t be surprised they would just be enjoying a great movie.
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544243
This is the culture you are defending, and it's crashing before your eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544101
>It’s like if a great movie came out about hollywood elites being pedos. Americans wouldn’t be surprised they would just be enjoying a great movie.
said nobody ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544101
The fuck are you talking about?
every single movie made in USA is about politics and culture
it is going to be either gays or patriotism or culture commenting

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544101
That movie absolutely wouldn't be allowed to breath and exist the moment it reaches pre-production

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544101
>ESL
>le western boogeyman
ogey SEA-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
It's the new jp meme. like the spread legs on the table most whish they never did it a few months later but you have to be hip and do what the youngsters do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544380
>every single movie made in USA is about politics and culture
japanese media used to be like that too, then it turned into vapid wish fulfilment power fantasy shit. watch anything from the 80s and you'll understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543797
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Idols business has always been revolving around selling images. Most sane fans are pretty much fine w/ "lies" as long as they keep those illusions alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
Its been funny seeing anons who haven't watched/read Oshi no Ko base their entire understanding of it on what other anons who also haven't watched/read it say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544036
it goes pretty hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544752
Is this show the Morbius of anime?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544869
more like Hagwarts Legacy

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
People only read the first chapter and have no idea what the manga is actually about

[Anonymous No.]

I understand some of you cannot separate media and reality, but it’s just a manga.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't give a fuck about any vtuber being a fan of oshi no ko (my oshi loves it quite a lot even) or male collabs, my only problem is that this manga is genuinely bad, it's too on your nose and pretentious about its message (muh idol culture bad and fake), the dialogues are extremely cringe and unnatural, and after Ai's death it turns into a boring revenge story with love triangle crap. I wish shitposters would use something like Perfect Blue instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545094
*documentary
more like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
falsflaggers and bicorns will use it as a "source" to paint holofags in a bad light because "haha le idolshit is bad"

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544867
Idolfags btfo'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
Because idiots who think they know more about idol culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544663
>Most sane
Most cucked cucks you meant

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544296
>implying that I defend it or anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543917
Mengo didn't write the story, Akasaka Aka is the writer. Mengo is more into Chainsaw Man than Oshi no Ko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544663
Yeah where is the WWE culture that weebs craved so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544129
he's so cucked that he might as well be one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545146
you know the big difference between real idols and vtubers? one starts at their teens dreaming the disney princess dream while most of the vtubers are mid 20 if not older.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544296
You make it sound as if someone were to read this and felt it was personally targeted towards him would retaliate by dropping a bomb on Japan's PM or something.

[Anonymous No.]

REMINDER THAT HOLOLIVE MEMBERS ARE NOT IDOLS

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
Sisters, we fucking won

[Anonymous No.]

you are free to do what you want, your fans are also free to do what they want.
action>consequence. you are committing a crime

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
Anyone can explain why this game attract boomers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543863
I can confirm what this anon says, as that boyfriend is me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545507
>one starts at their teens dreaming the disney princess dream while most of the vtubers are mid 20 if not older.
>he doesnt know
Hachama.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545146
There are no unironic idol groups in vtubing retard watch vtubers first before posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545699
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAATON BROS NOT LIKE THIS

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
>I fail to understand what's wrong with Oshi no Ko.
The manga portrays the negative aspects of the idol industry. Hololive vtubers in particular relate because they operate under many of the same rules.

[Anonymous No.]

See you on the rest episode I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545699
>poor health can't happen because it just can't

[Anonymous No.]

If women hate parasocial fans so much then why do they become vtubers and act like a girlfriend for lonely men? It can't be that they're whores who only want money without consequences or even acknowledging that their fans are human....could it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543398
Koyo has animal ears, she never had human rights to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545674
My guess is it subconsciously reminds them of NES/SNES-era final fantasy. It also has had some boomer collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545600
then why do they have idolfags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543863
You have a bf and you see him in you every night.
You can't prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546077

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546206
Mostly ironic idolfags for the meme Yagoo created.
Most Holo members have known boyfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546077
the very simple line of text which destroys women faggots and cucks

[Anonymous No.]

The overwhelming majority of idol fans are supportive of their oshis, people just want to cherrypick and shit on the derange ones as a form of virtue signaling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546375
I have seen too much seething to be ironic

in the rainy days this board was full with ame and kroni threads because they collabed with males

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546375
It's presumed most of them do, it's never actually been confirmed for most of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546472
>supportive of their oshis

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546490
Those are the actual schizos who think they are watching Hololive as an idol company when most Holo members said they aren't idols

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545146
Reminder that if every man had a girlfriend the idol industry wouldn't exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545903
How many times a year does someone have "poor health issues"? I spend 48hs in bed at most every year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546336
is this fake or her take on a april joke?

[Anonymous No.]

those are the rules of the game, if you don't like it go back to the konbini, Hanako.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546512
It is confirmed if you do your reps on them

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546557
the author doesn't have a dick, balls, feelings, a heart or what is wrong with the subhuman retard?

[Anonymous No.]

Is Koyori an actual Grubble player or did she just start with the anniversary? The first GW after starting the game is always the worst.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
Sisters literally have no idea what idol culture is, nor what Japan thinks about all of it, nor did they read Oshi no Ko.

Holos have been talking about Oshi no Ko for ages and NO ONE cared.
Why did no one care?
Because sisters can't udnerstad Japanese and don't understand idols, so only Japanese people were hearing holos talk about Oshi no Ko and thus no one cared.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546982
wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546982
the JPs aren't like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546077
Classic cognitive dissonance. Even if they are shut-ins in real life, in vtubing they can get a taste of flirting and attention and they love it and roll with it until the moment they realize a second party is involved, and they have their own expectations about the exchange.
Then, they may or may not accept the fact that their actions have consequences and that if they want to keep the creeps and stalkers away they can't be as flirty and parasocial as they have become used to.
They hate both the fans for "ruining a good thing" but they also hate themselves for falling into a kind of trap. The trap of getting used to a way of being and doing things and realizing it can't keep going they way it is and they have to change. But the second part of the cognitive dissonance is that they push out the blame entirely on the fans, because modern society (insert joker image) propaganda has given them the message all their lives that they're not responsible for anything and fault is always with external factors. Where before in premodern times women were robbed of agency but also robbed of responsibility, today they are given agency and rights and told to demand rights and privileges granted to men, without demanding or accepting any responsibilities and expectations that come with those rights and privileges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47547279
Laplus, Darkness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546631
>most Holo members
Just because you only speak English doesn't mean the main branch doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546631
They do say they are idols but holojp has quite Literally redefined the word to use it as they like comparing them to "real" idols is stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>47547083
He saw Chernobyl and thought he could replicate the moral of the story with his own shit.
Also the result of a terrible marriage.

[Anonymous No.]

Actual Joshu-kun here. Koyori just likes hopping on whatever the latest trend or meme is, which is currently making that face. She also has the most soi reddit funko pop taste in fiction imaginable, literally MCU/Ready Player One/Game of Thrones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47547083
get help incel kun you might start stabbing wahmen soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
I don't know what the fuck all these replies are but they haven't read the manga
Ai's death and idol culture has almost nothing to do with the majority of the manga

it turns into a really awful act age with the worst of aka's writing shoved in. the only good part was the kaguya appearance

[Anonymous No.]

>>47547853
Post 1(one) case of an idol getting stabbed

[Anonymous No.]

>>47547792
What a cute normie she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
Because Aka's a faggot creep that hits on vtubers. This nigga should not be commentating on idol culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47547792
I guess she spends so much time streaming and working that she has no time left to watch good media and get some taste so I won't blame her

[Anonymous No.]

>>47547892
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Mayu_Tomita#

Here faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546982
This js just blatantly wrong. There are almost no confirmations whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47547792
Koyoyo has only generic, public tastes expressly BECAUSE she has no strong man in her life to dictate her direction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
How can this be? Koyori is one of the vtubers that jokingly says that watching other vtubers or thirsting for cosplayers is cheating on her and says that she misses us when she's not streaming. 90% sure she's just making the meme face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548333
Sorry bros I'll have to try harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548216
Lol what a stupid slut. Got what she deserved for manipulating lonely depressed people for an easy paycheck. I have no sympathy for her and I hope she realized the error of her ways when she was getting that knife sunk in her belly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548333
That's why I don't trust Laplus. She watched Pink Flamingos. Like what kind of zoomer Japanese girl would go out her way and watch that when she's on record for liking capeshit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548216
Might as well spam this anime on /jp/ too because of flesh idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548425
So edgy. You have to be 18 or older to post here anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
>tries to put on a positive persona for her fans
>remembers the names of fans who come to events
>does all this out of a genuine desire to love her fans
Aside from having sex with a man to have a child then immediately cutting him off Ai is an exemplary idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543797
all women think like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548333
honestly its super straight-forward

>woman looks to others for validation in life:
>no strong man to rely on --> picks up the most popular and mass-media-friendly works because they are the strongest figure
>strong man in her life --> will look to him for affirmation, will instinctually try to align with him because he is the pillar she can rely on

ironically, this is relevant to the Oshi no Ko characters and idols in that the obsessed fan treats his oshi as his power figure and is such a failure of an existence that SHE is the controlling party; this causes extreme cognitive dissonance in a man and he lashes out in confusion and frustration at his own inadequacy

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546982
>do your reps
anon, just say you don't know and stop embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548809
It's still a mystery her relationship with the father in the series, but she was literally an orphaned sociopath who had never felt love so it's understandable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548425
>seethes toy katana
>starts playing Down With The Sickness on headphone
>smirks

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548907
Yeah. It's so strange how Aka literally wrote the ideal of what an idol should be to shit on idol culture. If you only read the prologue it's easy to question if that's even the intent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549099
I don't mind spoilers so what actually happens in this series?
I doubt it's just "idol culture bad?" like people /here/ are making it out to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
>Unicorns won the battle (shitting on Holostars and pushing them into relative obscurity) but lost the war (everyone except themselves fucking hates them and has collectivelly villanized them)
Many such cases kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549362
>>47547861

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549099
Based schizophrenic retard

>>47549362
There's 2 MCs, one who becomes an actor for a revenge murder plot and the girl who becomes an idol after her mother. The actual idol stuff is more like footnotes on chapters though, all the other examples of fans in the show are seen as normal and it just notes how sensitive idols are to scandals and boyfriends compares to actors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549407
>pushing them into relative obscurity
We did jackshit, stop this victim playing bs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47546877
>we must eliminate unicorns to save the birthrate
the real redpill

[Anonymous No.]

Is it still possible to be a unicorn in 2023?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549407
Not everyone who hates the stars are unicorns. I don't mind male collabs as long it isn't with the WNBA of vtubing. Men or merit count, not subsidized bitches who need women to prop them up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
>make threads pretend Holofans are angry
>make threads pretend people are angry at holofans
the way you name your pictures give you away fucking SEAfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47545721
Retard just because you're coping about it doesn't change the fact that Yagoo expressly took inspiration from an idol group and the girls call themselves idols.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549548
Yes but you have to be a masochist, it's better to just go watch anime or embrace AI waifus instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549099 (me)
Now that I think about it isn't saying that idols aren't allowed to date in Japan on the same level as saying that teachers are underpayed or that healthcare is too expensive in America? Does Aka even hate idol culture?
All this buzz around idol culture feels like if an action movie had the protagonist's father die because he can't afford healthcare and then everyone freaking out about the movie shitting on American healthcare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47548425
based

[Anonymous No.]

Niggas really be making 3+ threads all at once to force this as a yab meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549600
>inspiration from an idol group
Evangelion took inspiration from Ideon but that doesn't make them the same story.
>girls call themselves idols.
They do like 2-3 concerts a year and 0 handshake events. They're not idols, they're couch potatoes that have to go to dance practice in order not to humiliate themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
This
Thinking Oshi no Ko is anti-idol is the mid wit opinion

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549762
They are idols in the same way that they are animals and mythological creatures. It's ALL kayfabe and the LARP ends the moment they log off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47547861
>>47549421
I'm getting crippling deja vu here.
I feel like this is going to be one of those shows that has a great first episode that catches everyone in and then everyone falls off 3-4 episodes in

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549809
Oshi no Ko isn't anti idol but it is anti unicorn and anti idolbu. The moral is basically "Idols are great but everything would be fun if we got rid of those guys"

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549877
Most replies ITT that have responded to >>47543182 I can guarantee have not read past chapter 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549903
>The moral is basically "Idols are great but everything would be fun if we got rid of those guys"
Why do you say that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549877
The series falls apart later on, much like Kaguya did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544867
Yes. I am.
chad.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549903
"If only those lonely men would just give these women their hard earned money and go away so they can spend it then everything would be fine. It's all mens fault."

[Anonymous No.]

I just skimmed through some of the manga and you guys are definitely reading way too much into the holos liking it

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550096
>Anons on /vt/
>Extracting way too much meaning out of simple womanbrain actions
No way, you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549903
Based take then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549996
>just like Kaguya did
Your tastes are and always will be shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549996
>like Kaguya did
Your tastes are and always will be shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550149
>>47550174
Oopsie

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550149
>>47550174
Everything after the festival just kept getting worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543530
Anon she was doing paid sparks so that she can get gold moons to buy the new axe
She is going to be at least 10x worse next gw than she did on light

[Anonymous No.]

If vtubers have such a problem with lonely men then all they have to do is stop taking their money. Anyway now....yup...anyday

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543530
I refuse to watch any of her roll streams because I swear to god, it feels like she sucks the luck out of me after I watch them

[Anonymous No.]

Should we stop watching vtubers and just get girlfriends?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550483
If that was an option we would have never started

[Anonymous No.]

that anime really mindbroke this board huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550531
I dunno I can probably get a girlfriend if I moved to a big city. I've had one before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550565
Only the stupid ones and the ones that don't even watch vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

ENshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
Anon, the issue isn't the thumbnail. It's that she's playing fucking Granblue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543044
Who cares about Oshi no ko? The real danger here is GBF... I have tried to escape from it for 5 years. Please save Koyori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550699
She plays FGO too.
That one is arguably worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550434
I have a gbf chuuba that I watch often, and it feels like my luck has hit the shitter since I’ve watched her last year..

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550371
it's called a loser tax. Losers have to pay one so they get the privilege of watching a person outside their strike zone

[Anonymous No.]

the only reason to ever post about akasaka on this board is the fact that he tried to flirt with chigusa in apex so much that he nearly caused the greatest apex player in asia ever to completely stop participating in apex events with vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550738
If we’re comparing gachas I guess. But the grind in GBF is infinitely worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550699
pretty easy to escape once she starts doing raids and no one joins them

[Anonymous No.]

I thought this was going to be a thread about Granblue Fantasy

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550826
I know the grind is much worse but least there's something to do
FGO about to reach it's second dead month this year ikuzo

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550820
wow it went from a chigusa interview to this shit
how desperate is this board to take down oshi no ko

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550483
Does your country have a dwindling birth rate? That's your answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550794
Having to put up with stalkers and mentally insanse lonely men is called a whore tax. They have to pay one so they get the privilege of having an income outside their strike zone.

[Anonymous No.]

Is she an Ereshchad like Peko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544867
Yes, now get back to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550483
Anyone who uses this board and watches a woman pretending to be a virtual cartoon so they can cope with the fact that no decent looking woman on earth wants to be within 5 feet of them has no hope of getting a girlfriend. It's best for them to just post watamelon memes and know their place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551133
>pay one so they get the privilege of having an income
you tried

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549903
Objectively correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551268
Understanding english can be hard sometimes. He meant "pay one" as in "pay [the tax]". Get off this website and read some books anon. Do your school reps. Maybe you can even get a job at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550565
bicorns are just eternally angry about everything, and Akasaka is a divorced nijifan bicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550149
You are an unironic NPC if you like anything post Aka's divorce (around when Ishigami became the focus), it's basically a completely different manga with a different author

[Anonymous No.]

>>47550483
It's that easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551442
idols aren't paying viewers anything. Idols earn money because they're both pretty and talented while their viewers are neither. And this was a response to vtubers taking money. You're so mad you can't argue properly lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551599
Dealing with stalkers is the vtuber whore tax. Gotta pay their dues if they want to milk those sweet simps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551599
Everything you do in life that involves another human is a transaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551599
I told you to get off the internet and read some books anon. I'm telling you this so you can help yourself. You can't stay ingnorant of everything forever. I care about you and want you to grow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551648
>>47551685
literally a dodge and not a monetary exchange. Might as well call dealing with bullies a loser tax as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551754
> Might as well call dealing with bullies a loser tax as well.
You unironically could and it would make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551754
>Might as well call dealing with bullies a loser tax as well.
There's nothing wrong with that statement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551794
thread suggests otherwise because they're seething so much for being a loser

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551923
I don't think anyone's seething.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47549903
I don't think it's really trying to say that either. The one time it does Aqua basically just says Ruby is acting crazy.
I think the only real message it has is that "the idol world has it's beauty and it's warts but it's all wonderful in the end"
It points out that there are negative aspects but it's never exactly calling for change. One of the bigger conflicts of the manga is that one of the female leads can't get together with the MC because she is an idol, despite all the other shit said early on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47544867
>another episode of women try to manipulate men for money and get mad when it comes with consequences

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551754
You are a retard incapable of abstract thought at even the most basic level

[Anonymous No.]

>>47552501
turning an argument into a metaphorical is a dodge, simple as. Just admit you have no argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47551754
>bullying is...le bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>47552663
There's like 5 different people calling you a retard. Not just me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47553251
All me btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>47553251
Bringing up your discord gang doesn't change the argument either, sis. Why can't women ever argue on point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47543182
It's so dificult to put into words why Oshi no Ko is bad because the reason is deeply rooted in psychology and even esotericism. I will try to make an attempt anyways though. I wil also mainly address hololive JP fans here as I think they are the ones that will understand it the most:
Oshi no Ko's entire premise is that idol culture is built on lies and that parasocialism is bad. This is what has been already established in the west a long time ago, mind you (that's why I address JP fans). Thats why western idols/vtubers are so different from Japanese ones. Western vtubers being poisoned by irony and being unable to unironically tap into the parasocial idol culture is obviously a loss, because the potential of emotional connection you and the idol can develop is actually real. This goes back to the psychological and innate human desire to find a connection with the divine or the Jungian anima/animus in order to grow as a person and find fulfillment. Vtubing allows that to an extent that has never been possible before. Now up until this point the Japanese culture, specifically the otaku culture has been a keeper of that connection and naturally cultivating it, protecting it from being poisoned by irony. However, with a hit piece like Oshi no Ko that barrier receives a heavy blow and the poison is leaking into the otaku culture as we speak.
Now it's going to be very difficult to keep that connection even for Japanese audiences, talents and most importantly future generations of idols and their fans. This will eventually westernize japanese idols, vtubers, holomen and make them indistinguishable from western ones in terms of attitude towards idol culture. The entire culture of otaku, idols is being destroyed in front of us. This was by the way the aim of the mangaka as he is a raging anti-japanese feminist.
Japan will end up with a bunch of impressionable young women reading or watching propaganda like Oshi no Ko and getting brainwashed into thinking a good idol is one that lies all the time and that fans are terrible people. Obviously those are blatant lies (the irony) but how are they going to understand that now? Expect all present and future gens of hololive JP to be women unable to really connect with their audience on a deeper level. Expect women and fans unable to develop the anima/animus connection. And that's the gist of what's wrong with Oshi no Ko.

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>>47552315
You just know how many redditors and twitter bots that are gonna watch this are going to miss this entirely and think it's some elaborate message that they miss this point entirely.
If you played Persona 5, it's shocking how many people completely missed the point of the Kamoshida entirely

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Why would you even get mad? Kiara said they aren't idols anyway.

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>>47543182
Aka is an overrated hack and the premise is retarded.

This is before we get into the fact that he's one of /thoseguys/ who wrote the manga basically as "fans are all insane and chad will send assassins to kill you" because he's the 'nice guy' trying to fuck idols. That's why he wrote it, so idols would notice him after his divorce.

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>>47551420
>watches as hololive CCV continues to plummet

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>>47553707
this anime is like a litmus test for schizophrenic fuckwads isn't it

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>>47551173
This is her first GW and next month it's gonna be Light.

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>>47550086
"and then they could spend their time WITH ME"
t. aka

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>>47553707
That's a whole lotta words for somebody who can't even read 10 chapters of manga

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>>47553707
Its just another one of those series that promotes white knight behaviour. Nothing groundbreaking. The majority of people who enjoy it (in the west) are probably women who want an excuse to dunk on men at any cost and men who simp for egirls. Don't know about the Japanese perception of stories like this.

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>>47543044
Koyo will be told to buy the legfes sparktix, will roll Poseidon and will get wet
He won

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>>47552349
wtf I love woman now?

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>>47543044
>granblue
Unforgivable.

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>>47554912
Enabling antisocial behaviour is not an act of love.

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>>47554497
Nothing changes.

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>Want the benefits of being idol
>Refuses to be idol
Women are talentless whores who could have seen this coming

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>>47554359
>t. eop

[Anonymous No.]

KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME KANATA WON'T BETRAY ME

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>>47555191

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>212 replies
Seek help I'm begging you all

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>>47556600
I'm just hear to talk about Granblue, fuck everything else in this thread

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>>47553707
This is bordering on mental illness.

Idolfags were always the laughingstock of japanese mainstream why is this different suddenly?

Being hardcore fans of people pretending to be something they are not while fucking on the side was never healthy. This is true for male idols too.

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>>47543613
really, it's surprisingly telling how 95% of what gets talked about of this manga is in the first 2 volumes
it is some of the most meandering serialized shit in manga

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>>47556785
The Japanese mainstream is a laughing stock in an of itself. Literal country full of herbivores genociding themselves, and the ones who do get married are a slave to to their job and wife while she cheats on them.

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>>47556785
>Idolfags were always the laughingstock of japanese mainstream why is this different suddenly?
we are talking about a manga/anime doing much worse now. Your screenshot nly shows some 4 bad looking guys. here we have an entire story written about how le idol culture and fans are bad and women can do no wrong

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>the best arc of the manga so far is the Idol Concert
Fags really think Oshi no Ko will bring Hololive down when it's going to catapult it up to even higher heights rumao

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>>47543863
I don't need to prove your delusion is wrong, the one with burden to prove your delusion is you

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>>47544036
>eating Aka's garbage unironically
He PROBABLY has a point if he write this in older times but not in 2023

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>>47544867
I like to imagine a world where women struggled in the dating market instead of men. They'd never say shit like this

Also Aka is a hack. Just look at what he did with the second arc of Kaguya

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>>47558485
You don't have to imagine. That is reality for the average 30+ year old

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>>47558485
thats post modernism womans life already

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>>47558485
>Also Aka is a hack. Just look at what he did with the second arc of Kaguya
Is he a bigger hack than Isayama or Tite Kubo?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still holding onto hope of Subaru doing comfy grub streams again...

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>>47559346
I don't know about AoT so I can't say, but IshiMiko has got the most obvious pushed shit I have ever seen in romcom, the fact that I and him share the same favourite character in his manga disgust me

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>>47556785
It is one thing to be derided by third parties.
It is another thing when the idol in charge of the fantasy stops committing to the fantasy.

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>>47559106
It's adorable that you think that. lol

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>>47546375
>Most Holo members have known boyfriends.
Lmao, what? No, they really don't. Especially JP.
Two confirmed EN members, 2-3 confirmed JP members, and a married JP member does not mean that "most" holo members have boyfriends.
I spend a lot of time going through roommate shit. Like an unhealthy amount of time, and there's only a couple of members with known significant others or even past relationships.
EN and ID are different, especially ID with its culture that forces women into marriage, however even among them, only a few are known to have one, though there is some small evidence that a couple others might have one as well. It really seems like you have no idea what you're talking about or how many of the members have confirmed relationships. It's actually very few.

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>>47560706
I'll admit it. It's me. I'm married to all of them.

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>>47545600
Just say you don't watch streams or concerts, faggot.
They are marketed as idols, call themselves idols, make idol music, take dance and singing lessons, hold idol concerts, do idol fan meets, focus on self-improvement like idols do, and are referred to as idols in their investor brochures.
You seem really dumb.

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>>47559839
Shut up all of you,nothing more hack than BORUTO!

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>>47557539
>eating Aka's garbage unironically
You sound upset that someone hates parasocials enough to cuck them all out through is work. Did Oshi No Ko strike a bit too close to home for you?

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>>47543044
can someone explain, what's wrong with Koyo and Granblue Fantasy?

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>>47549762
>They do like 2-3 concerts a year
They do way more than that. Every member usually does a birthday and anniversary concert where multiple other members show up to perform with them. Even in a group like AKB48, not every member performs at every single one of their concerts.

>and 0 handshake events.
How the fuck are they supposed to do that, you bumbling retard? Besides, not only is that not a criteria of being an idol, but hololive members do fan meets where you get to talk to them one-on-one. That's pretty much what a handshake event is anyways.

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>>47561603
The timing is kinda weird, free shit is already over, there is no info on the next banner and GW doesn't start until 20th, makes you wonder what she is even gonna do at all

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>>47560700
>adorable
female poster detected

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I don't really have an issue with the show itself but rather retards like Enna going "she just like me fr fr" when in reality they haven't experienced anything like what happens in the show and don't even call themselves idols.

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>>47561906
She gets one night stands from shady men at the bar or tinder so therefore 30+ women aren't lonely. They totally could get married and have family tomorrow if they really wanted!

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>>47547861
>Ai's death and idol culture has almost nothing to do with the majority of the manga
This is peak idolfag cope, the entire story is kicked off by the actions of a deranged idolfag and here we see people are awfully defensive because this portrayal is makes idolfag culture look bad.

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>>47561603
her pose indicates affinity towards femcel no ko

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As a grubber I don't get how thousands of people can watch someone else play Granblue

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>>47562065
And even if she does, she won't be happy with that man after a few years of marriage because she thinks she can do better. Dating really is hell for women, but its a hell of their own making.

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>>47550483
Jokes on you, i already have one. I just come here for a good laugh. Unironically i believe a bunch of anons are like that too.

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>>47562065
This but unironically.

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>>47544101
>Idol culture would have kept her from being 16 and pregnant
This cope is right up there with the idea that abstinence-only education has ever reduced literally any measure of the problems it tried to deal with like pregnancy and disease.

Idol culture can do nothing to stop a dumb cunt from spreading her legs and getting knocked up and deciding to keep the inevitable discharge. The problem with idol culture is that it expects this but it is incapable of actually delivering it, and because these expectations will inevitably fail to be met, and the absolutely fucking rabid reaction from fans built upon this expectation, shit's legit dangerous to the talent as exhibited by a number of idols who've been murdered by fans over the years.

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>>47561521
I never even watch or read oshi no ko retard, and have no intention to do so after how he ruined Kaguya. Whoever think a hack with a failed marriage writing a romcom have any valid opinion in whatever he writes are unironic retards, you are free to enjoy his works as long as you don't eat the shit he tries to shove in your head from his manga, which unfortunately most ironic weebs does,

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I think I'm actually done with vtubers. They want the money but they don't like the fans. The thought of their male fans probably disgusts them desu. They play girlfriend for lonely men for an easy paycheck but at the end of the day they probably don't even see us as real humans. Just ATM machines. The fact that they identify with this anime so hard is definitive proof of that. I'm not sure what I'm going to do now in my free time. It's better than living a lie I guess.

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>>47562796
Heres a secret. If a woman isnt attracted to you, she doesnt care about you as a human being. You are literally at the level of a bug.

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>>47562577
>shit's legit dangerous to the talent as exhibited by a number of idols who've been murdered by fans over the years
If you actually wanted to make a point, you should find a statistic that compares the percentage of people in the entire population committing murders with the percentage of idol fans that commit murder.
Thinking that the fact some idol got killed at some point in time means fans are dangerous is retarded, and the opposite my well be true.

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>>47548425
>It's not happening
>It IS happening and it's GOOD
get help

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>>47562796
Anon, it has never been that deep. Aside from some hardcore GFE exceptions, It's an anime girl playing games, honestly you should just take it as what it is. If the streamer is fun, i keep watching. If not, i don't. I don't blame you for expecting more out of it, but at the same time, it's good to be reality checked once in a while.
>inb4 something about woman liars
They always have been, i don't get what's the surprise. Still doesn't excuse retards from keeping themselves reality checked.

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>>47562894
If you can only find one account of it happening over decades, it objectively isnt happening. However women are masters at turning even the statistical nonsense into a literal holocaust

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>>47543754
Because idol culture is objectively bad. I've yet to see one positive. I'm not saying this to shit on hololive, I mean the concept/industry in general. The perceived happiness it brings is not worth the long term erosion of both sides mental health

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>>47563074
(nta) I don't care about the woman involved, i feel like it's bad for the opposite reason. Men shouldn't give themselves for the attention of some random woman. You should strive to be great for yourself.

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>>47543044
The real reason to hate oshi no ko is that it promises to give you a neat murder mystery and instead you get worse act-age and harem rom-com isekai trash instead.
Aka's a hack because he can't commit to the original plot, runs filler after filler and when he finally runs the plot forward it's a magical ghost/god that just appears out of nowhere because he forgot about the original plot.

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>>47563074
>Because idol culture is objectively bad
You are objectively wrong.
> the long term erosion of both sides mental health
proof next thread?

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Man I'm on the internet today

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>>47562796
>They want the money but they don't like the fans
Just because I work for my boss doesn't mean I like him

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>>47562983
It's more their response to the anime. The fact that they love it this much means they are able to identify with it and self insert very easily. They are annoyed by their fans. At the end of the day it's just the same women who ignored us back in school using an anime avatar so they can appeal to the thing men use as a cope. Most men love anime women because they feel a sense of safety and security in loving them that they have never felt in their entire lives with real women. These vtubers take advantage of that. Nothing more and nothing less. That's what this has shown me. Before I could say "yeah they play video games and they like hanging out with their fans.". Honestly now I'm sure they do it exclusively as a paycheck.

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>>47563252
You are the proof of mental corrosion, and im not even the anon

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All I got from this thread is that the author is a terrible writer and the manga is not worth reading beyond the first 10 chapters.

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>>47563306
>The fact that they love it this much means they are able to identify with it and self insert very easily.
Just because I love watching SoL doesn't mean I'm a high school girl you know? And like I said you and any of the Holomems can enjoy Aka's works as long as you dont let his dumb ideology or propaganda goes to your head

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>>47563266
This is like waitress expecting 50% tip after she keeps cussing you out and knocking down your drinks

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>>47563306
They don't like you. They also don't dislike you. They don't know you, that's the reality I'm saying you need to be reality checked about it. What people do with this info is up to them, they can seethe all they want about it or just learn to accept it as it is

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>>47563317
Seems like projection. I'm sorry for you.

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>>47563324
I wish most retards and unironic tourists here are have even a bit of common sense like you
>>47563536
Exactly. I know full well the waitress probably hates her job, I don't care as long as she can put up the facade and do her job

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>>47549362
>I doubt it's just "idol culture bad?" like people /here/ are making it out to be.
To be fair, it's a drama first, but issues common for people in the entertainment industry are used as a backdrop to push things along frequently. Anyone with a brain can see the cautionary tale of the dangers of the entertainer-fan parasocial relationship that is prevalent in idol culture that is used to kick off the story. Lots of people talk about the deranged fan who killed Ai but even when she's fucking dying, her reincarnated son calls her by name, instead of "mom" because he can't separate being her fan from before he died from being her kid in that moment and it's his feelings that drive his entire revenge-murder subplot.

The people who try to deflect are coping, probably barely sane parasocials themselves.

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It's funny how Oshi no Ko is the first anime I have seen alot of heavy opinions about "how bad it is" in this board
any other flavor of the season anime that gets mentioned have some mild discussion because a chuuba brought it up on stream, a little name calling here an there and it's done
But Oshi no Ko is literally having dedicated threads with alot of text walls, Oshi no ko is becoming to idolfags what hogwarts was to troons

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>>47563942
>Idols talking about how much like like anti-idol show
How could this happen

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>>47563173
He said both sides you retard. Can you not read?

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>>47563942
>Oshi no ko is becoming to idolfags what hogwarts was to troons
Retard, roons are mad because the author herself hates troons, people hate Aka a long time before Oshi no Ko is a thing

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>>47563306
>the same women who ignored us
speak for yourself loser, I ignored them

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>>47562772
>after how he ruined Kaguya
So I was right.

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>>47563306
>At the end of the day it's just the same women who ignored us back in school
Why are you projecting yourself on us when its really just you? You know plenty of the idolfags are successful celebrities and some of them are even married right? One of them is even a famous vtuber.

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>>47564141
Never seen this much discussion on /vt/ about kaguya, hell this thread was the first time I have seen any negative mention about kaguya on this board

While troons have to invent a reason to call hogwarts transphobic the result in the end is the same
>Getting worked up because a piece of media goes against whatever the fuck is your values

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>>47562868
>Thinking that the fact some idol got killed at some point in time means fans are dangerous is retarded, and the opposite my well be true.
No this is a cope, everyone knows that every single parasocial is a mentally ill incel, or you wouldn't be a fucking parasocial. Further, entertainers of all sorts are some of the most secretive and protected people on the planet and they still manage to get killed periodically. Because they tend to be difficult to get close enough to in order to kill, most jilted parasocials take their pound of flesh from unrelated people in what appear to be random attacks.

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>>47564283
>zero arguments
Concession accepted
>>47564440
What values? People are mad about how the ending is super rushed, some of the characters are done dirty in the writing at the end and that a divorcee himself trying to impose his opinion on relationship in his manga. People hate Aka a long time before Oshi no Ko is a thing, Oshi no Ko is just another reason to hate him

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>>47564810
>hating someone because you don't like their work
????
Just don't read it?

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>>47543044
Koyori is smart, sociable, outgoing and hot irl. If you legitimately think she hasn't got a boyfriend you are an idiot.

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>>47562796
You realize a bunch of them like it because it's tangentially related to them, right? It's fiction, and even though the message is cynical and shits on idols and idol fans, people can still like it for the story and presentation.
If I were a chemistry teacher, and I said I loved Breaking Bad, no one would think it's because I see myself in Walter and agree with what he did. That's asinine.

Ai is not presented as a good person. She is ultimately a liar who manipulated her fans and justified it by telling herself that the image of everything is more important to her supporters than the truth. Even so, she never intended to let her fans choose and in doing so, she denied them their right to make an informed decision. It's very easy to see that the author thought what she did was wrong, it's just what her fan did in response, was worse.

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>>47563942
>It's funny how Oshi no Ko is the first anime I have seen alot of heavy opinions about "how bad it is" in this board
Because trannoids keep making bait threads with it and anons give their opinion on it, which as per 4chin tradition, is usually a negative one. There, it wasn't that hard to figure out why.

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>>47563029
>If you can only find one account of it happening over decades,
How many Hollywood stars have been killed by fans over the years? These are some of the most protected people on earth and every day you hear about some obsessed stalker, it's probably just good they can't get close enough to do anything and this is Japan so there are no guns.

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>>47564810
The argument was made that you're a parasocial who didn't like being criticized. You didn't contest that and instead shifted to the author.
>Concession accepted
Indeed.

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>>47558485
he got cucked HARD irl
his mind is not well

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>>47564893
>literally read more than halfway and even liked a character
>the bad signs are showing, but continued hoping it's just a one time thing, wants to at least see how said favourite character do in the end
>it gets worse on top of the mediocre ending
>"J-just dont read it!!!"
But dont worry anon, I'll take your advice and won't touch Oshi no Ko. The only redeemable thing for the second part of Kaguya was that my favourite character wasn't ruined and left alone

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>>47565191
>saying Aka is retarded and oshi no ko is trash means you're paracsocial
My oshi does plenty of male collabs btw, and I never shitpost about it because she and her fans both never make it an issue

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>>47564414
I was talking about what I believe is the general case for a vtubing fan. I'm sure there are outlying examples. In general it's likely a male aged 17 - 35 that has poor success with women and enjoys anime.

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>>47543797
>Zoomers found out what Dr. House is about

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>>47564936
>it's just what her fan did in response, was worse.
Is it worse though? I believe crimes of manipulation where you take advantage of someone weaker and more vulnerable than you for your own self gain are some of the most heinous crimes that be be committed. Crimes like child abuse and elder abuse for example. Manipulating a defenseless person into giving you their possessions or to do your bidding for your own gratification. Those are horrible crimes. Even worse than murder in some circumstances. That's the type of crime Ai committed.

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>>47564712
>Every week 40 people get killed in school shootings in the US, but because a single idol got killed 20 years ago idol fag must be dangerous.

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>>47543084
Shut Up JEWS

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So from what I'm getting ITT is that people are mad at vtubers that like Oshi no Ko because they believe that said vtubers relate to the girl in Oshi no Ko and go "I'm just like her frfr"
Is this just next level projection or what? That's like saying a basketball player would see Kuroko no Basuke and think "I'm just like him frfr"

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>>47543754
It doesn't it's the opposite a love letter to idol culture. After all the reactions to the first episode the dichotomy EOP-media illiteracy is confirmed one more time.
>>47563074
Retard.

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>>47566773
>There is third world entities ITT
Indeed.

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I’m more surprised that no one has decided to mention the other big retarded element of this manga. The attempt to whitewash and justify one of the main idols (almost) sleeping with a director for jobs. Aka is a hack and makes it out to be a bad thing that those things get reported by tabloids and that viewers get mad at it. It’s not just anti-idol, it’s straight feminist garbage trying to say that girls can fuck around as much as they want for any reason and a “good” guy/fan should ignore it and white knight for them.

[Anonymous No.]

Ai is the Patrick Bateman for female Vtubers both EN and JP

[Anonymous No.]

Since when can't /vt/ enjoy creative works?

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>>47565955
>I was talking about what I believe is the general case for a vtubing fan
vt is not a general case for vtubing fan, and even if they do, you dont even know them irl enough to make any database. Your average idolfags in Japan are actual functional working salaryman at worst, sometimes high schoolers, where in Japan high schoolers doing part time job is a norm, how do you think they whale on idol merchs in the first place?

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>>47543044
>Koyo Bait thread at 300 posts
Damn the Koyote made it even with the EOPs..........

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>>47566329
>Those are horrible crimes. Even worse than murder in some circumstances
No. There is no worse crime than murder. Period.
>yeah? Well what about child rapists?
Even a molested child may one day lead a normal life full of meaning, but a murder victim never gets another chance at life. I'm so fucking tired of smooth-brained shitheads like you who think there are worse crimes than murder. There isn't.
I'm not even sure how any of you retards ever come to that conclusion. It's like you're incapable of thinking about things objectively.

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>>47567580
NTA, but you're wrong for one simple reason: Murder may be the worst crime for the dead person, but they're dead anyway so their opinion isn't really that important anymore. For the relatives, or just the rest of society, a clean murder is surely preferrable to some disgusting abuse or the like.

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Don't you think that Twitch streamers have all the problems that the idols have?
Twitch business style perfectly mimics that of the idol industry.
Twitchfags buy subs instead of idol's CDs to be recognized by their oshis.

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>>47562097
what no i don't care about idolfags. I just really hate that the story dropped the murder mystery.
yeah idolfags are mad about stupid shit like always but oshi no ko is garbage

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>>47568214
Not even close, streamers don't need to be vtubers and vtubers don't need to be idols

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>>47568214
What no

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>>47568214
No that's a retarded comparison. I've seen people compare them to western entertainers too and that's just as stupid. Both the fans and the idols are completly different to their western "conterparts" for a simple reason, while the idol dwell on their "divine status" leading most of their fans to act like a cult, twitch streamers or a western singer doesn't directly encourages that. If a western fan acts like a schizo it's because he is a fucking one. While for the japanese schizoing after the idol pure facade is shattered can be justified. Since the idol herself builded and ecouraged that kind of character and following, and if she can't mantain that she is at fault.

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>>47565052
>How many Hollywood stars have been killed by fans over the years?
Uh, like, less than a handful? Unless you drug dealers that sold celebs as fans when they OD'd I guess. The world is overwhelmingly nonviolent when it comes to targeting rich and popular people.

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>>47565390
Please tell me Chika wasnt ruined

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>>47568182
Nah murder is clearly considered the highest evil because the legal system has to debate using it against the most heinous criminals.

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>>47568214
>Don't you think that Twitch streamers have all the problems that the idols have
Of course they do, where do you think the bathwater meme and the term simp came from? The only reason 'le idol culture bad' stands out more is
- Japan idolfags, or Japanese in general, are more....creative. Stalkers or obsessive fans is does exist even among twitch streamers or western celebs, but they aren't news material unlike a creep from Japan tracking his oshi's house from the reflection from his oshi's glasses
- Western being the virtue signaller nation wants to point out everything wrong of people from other culture even if they have the same problem or did the same thing
Eceleb obsession is a global thing, even among male to male fans, unicorns obsessing over female idols is nothing less cringy than Jun's fans attacking other streamers who 'hurt' Jun in anyway, than Pokimane's simps, and than people who defended Tobi over his sexual harassment allegations.

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>>47572206
Anon I...

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>>47564908
How does she have a bf when she plays video games 13 hours a day??

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>>47572206
She became a feminist

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>>47574761
I'm legitimately angry right now.

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>>47574266
>implying 13 hours of vidya is an impediment
2-3 days a week and 5 hours spent in total is all they need.

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>>47574761
What did the guy say to make her respond like that? She might be legitimately correct.

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>>47572902
> Stalkers or obsessive fans is does exist even among twitch streamers or western celebs, but they aren't news material
You're right, they are the ones who make news material. Paparazzi should be illegal.

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>>47574761
I hate her now more than I already did