/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

you fucks happy now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
>makes drama channel fags seethe

Yeah lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
Why are her own fans attacking her like this. Is she really that much of a cunt to them?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh boy the one V-Tuber who barely uses her social media even when she was regularly streaming is getting hate online that she won't see anyway. But normies are seething over it so whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

kek
fuck brapper and fuck goomba

[Anonymous No.]

>fundraising vtuber drama
...What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
Sounds to me like gura should do better so this doesn’t happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
I like the 'fans'
Makes it clear its the antis attacking her

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>>47428103
Chumies….

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>>47428103
wow I can't believe how much reaping sucks when sowing was so great wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
? Subhuman leeches get to milk money from non issues and we’re supposed to be happy? A handful of upset people wondering why Gura is too lazy to post updates on Twitter or stream more than once every two weeks to a month isn’t drama. Unless some faggots like these YT channels make it drama.

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Are they fucking retarted? Don’t they know this is just going to make trolls jump on the bandwagon and make the situation even more shit?

[Anonymous No.]

She reaps what she sows

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428423
But anon the views…..

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>>47428103
ANTIS WE WON

[Anonymous No.]

lol now homobeggars and troons have to decide if they want to support Gura to own the chumchuds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428423
Drama channels don’t really care about morals they just want the sweet youtube money

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>>47428298
Asking Gura to do better means that you are literally entitled and not a true fan and you are actually a Nijispy and you actually hate her and want her to graduate, asshole. I for one HECKIN LOVE my shork (hehe get it, shork instead of shark XD kind of like smoll instead of small!) and I don’t care if she ever streams again as long as she’s happy and healthy and living her best life! Heh, only fake fans would want to see her do things like post on twitter or stream. In fact she should stream even less if it’s stressing her out. I don’t want my smoll bean cute shork to get a tummy hort from streaming!

[Anonymous No.]

Does Gura really not stream that much to deserve hate? Are her actual fans upset or is this just antis? I don't watch her so I'm unaware of this entire situation.

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>>47428325
Her fans are now antis who are doing the right thing.

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>>47428103
Like always the dramatubers completely misrepresenting literally everything and trying to flex some kind of moral superiority.

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>>47428610
Ah yes the 'fans' who never superchatted, never membered, seem to only type in NijiEN livestream chats but comment on Guras videos

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>>47428103
WHEN IS EN3 COMING?
NO ONE WOULD GIVE A FUCK IF EN3 WAS ALREADY HERE

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
>21st

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>>47428577
a entertainer that doesn't entertain? Wild.

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>>47428600
It’s a mix, but she’s developed a pattern of having return streams, then going AWOL, then another return stream, and so on. She hasn’t streamed consistently in over a year, and she doesn’t communicate or actually update her fans in any meaningful way in what to expect from her entertainment wise. There’s a lot of cope from her more rabid fans that she has communicated enough and asking any more from her makes you to be a literal anti. It’s some retarded shit but her fans have a right to be upset on this.

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>>47428325
>>47428577
>>47428600
It was the accounts with over two year memberships who were complaining im just saying.

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>>47428600
Her fans are the battered housewives of the v-tuber fandom. They pay for memberships for streams that never materialize, and every time they ask, like, hey can you give a schedule next time, or hey can you like, give us a rough estimate of when you're going to stream, everyone jumps on them and calls them antis, not "true" fans, "don't you know v-tubers have lives outside of vtubing" and shit like that.

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>>47428577
If that were the case gura wouldn't make that message telling them to be kind.

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>>47428700
She entertains me just by existing! You wouldn’t get it because you don’t have an oshi. But just knowing that I exist in the same universe as Gura is enough for me. She doesn’t need to stream, post, perform live, or do anything else. I just heckin love my cute shork wife so much that she doesn’t need to do anything!

[Anonymous No.]

>still gets the most subscribers weekly out of everyone in HoloEN
its like a ant trying to intimidate a human
you are worthless and your crying does nothing

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>>47428782
Truly the most cucked fanbase

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>>47428103
>She still isn't streaming
Nope.

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>>47428103
Telling a streamer to not ghost her audience for months and actually stream is not "hate"

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>>47428600
She basically ghost her fans all the time and some of them are tired of it and rightfully called her out for it.

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>>47428169
What? Drama channels feed on content.

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>>47428804
Anyone posting anything even remotely resembling criticism in her chat is just trying to troll my shark wife. She doesn’t need to see such terrible vitriol from obviously FAKE fans and antis. Gura had to post that so that her REAL fans (me) know not to get baited and respond to trolls. I swear I got so frikkin angy when I saw that Lilly try to talk about Gura’s “inconsistency” (whatever that means, Gura is consistently number one in my heart.) but I knew not to respond because I know that my smoll bean cute shork wife wouldn’t want me to.

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>>47428577
Based shork.

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>>47428620
and they get views and ad revenue for doing it, almost like people want to be fed oversimplifying misinformation from an unrelated third party doing some moral grandstanding so that they can feel good about themselves, secure in their superior morality

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>>47428600
Her long time fans are asking her to send tweets like once a month to prove she's not fucking dead and they're called delusional and entitled for it.

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>>47428600
It's literally just 2 year member saying "gee gura it would be pretty cool if you said when you can stream" where the opposite side overreacted and shitposters used this opportunity to falsflag as both sides. It's literally a nothingburger but dramafags gotta dramafag

[Anonymous No.]

All these paragraphs from seething chumbies….

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>>47428298
Or you can shut up and let her be. She can do what she wises and Cover makes the calls if she needs to do better, not you faggot.

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>>47428964
Damn really? Kek>>47428965

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>>47428964
Uhh, yah ok you are just an anti and it is like, SO obvious. First of all she’s definitely said she’ll try and do more but she had a sunburn recently and her computer hort and she can’t stream with a hort computer or a sunburn ok? You would know if you watched every waking moment of her streams like me. I always laugh at people like you who try to misconstrue or troll Gura’s real fans like this. I’ve watched every Gura VOD twice over (because I love her so much, and not because of any “lack of streams” because she never lacks any stream and she should stream as little or as much as she wants.) so I would know ok?

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>>47428752
like 2 guys? The rest sure as well were mostly grays.

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>>47428752
Wow i feel bad for them than.

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>>47429229
No shitposter or anti is gonna read all that dumbass

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>>47429281
anon it's a facetious post

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>>47429281
I don’t care if anyone reads my posts. I only come into threads like these to defend gura from assholes like you who keep putting all of this pressure on her. If it wasn’t for people like you then she’d probably stream everyday.

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>>47428103
This board deserves 40 nukes and then some

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>>47429440
Is no-one seriously considering that she just simply burned out?
You know when you hear hoofbeats and stuffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
Waiting for gura announcement stream

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>>47429497
Gura loves her fans too much to ever really burn out. If she isn’t at her best right now it’s because of fake fans who are always trolling her and her fans. She cares about us a lot and she knows that we’re always getting bullied and it takes a toll on her too. Right now I’m sure she’s just busy with another project or making sure her new PC is in tiptop shape before things go back to the old normal.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess being a 5 view means it's impossible to have an honest conversation about this stuff, without it blowing up and turning into a drama.

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>>47428103
You know maybe people could not be disingenuous and pretend it's fine for a chuuba to be almost totally absent for like 6 months straight and pretend everything's great and fine still. It's fucking not. Gura at least finally, FINALLY fucking admitted it out loud that shit's fucked, but it's very much too late.

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>>47429729
unironically yes, nuance gets thrown out the window when shitposters/dramafags smell blood in the water and >>47429089 happens

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>>47429729
She doesn’t need to tell her fans anything. We should just be happy that she exists and deigns to entertain us in the first place. My cute shark wife doesn’t owe anyone an explanation on anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Chumcucks in full defense mode is so funny kek

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>>47428103
Legitimately AI brained.
How the FUCK do they know that she has health problems and needs a break when she never talks about that? Do they live with her?
I literally cannot tell the difference between machines and actual human beings with thoughts anymore.

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>>47429440
Actual mental illness here

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>>47429440
There was hardly any pressure on her at all from her own fans to her face on her first couple of absence spells, which stretch back to over a year of this now. A couple retard shitposter catalogfags/holo antis in general tryhard scraping up any weakness they can pick at would go ">4 days >no stream" etc not even fucking remotely realizing what was about ot happen. Her members etc generally circled the wagons around her almost this entire time all this was happening, they only broke very-recently but it was clear it was like a dam busting where a bunch of rainbow tridents started admitting they weren't exactly thrilled with the situation either.

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>>47429929
>How the FUCK do they know that she has health problems and needs a break when she never talks about that?
BECAUSE ONE CAN FUCKING ASSUME THEY HAVE HEALTH PROBLEMS YOU RETARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428423
That's a plus for them, more content means more monetization. Drama channels need drama to pay the bills, it's why I don't get niggers who defend them. They de facto need to feed off negativity to be successful.

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>>47429871
They really are a sensitive bunch

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>>47429962
I ASSUME THAT SHE IS PREGNANT THEREFORE IT MUST BE TRUE YOU RETARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
ewwww hero hei. unironically neck yourself retard.

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>>47429871
Really. It’s like this is supposed to be the biggest vtuber in the world? What kind of shitty example is she setting? Plus we all know she isn’t the biggest vtuber in the world. There’s always going to be an asterisk next to her name.

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>>47428253
Management is def showing this to her.

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>>47430110
For what? That you fucking idiots can't shut up? that this board leaks constantly?

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>>47429792
That would require her to actually care about her fans feelings.

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>>47429962
>call others retards when he bases his knowledge on assumptions

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>>47429935
There is nothing mentally ill about me defending my oshi from trolls on this shit board. You’re an anti or a fake fan.

>>47429942
If her longtime tridents were actual fans then they’d understand that Gura was/is always busy with her behind the scenes Hololive work, and she’s already said awhile ago that she has health issues. This in itself should be obvious to any sane fane that she’s going to be doing what she can when she can. She’s a real person with a real life too and anyone who shits on her for it is a parasocial idiot who doesn’t understand.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought the so called righteous anger over pikamee getting bullied would maybe cause people to be less oozing cunts here but it really is just another one of those it's ok when I do it scenarios.

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>>47430164
She gets paid to provide a service, anon. If that service is late or lacking, the people who paid for it has the right to complain.

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You know if you chumbuds just stopped biting and ignored these bait threads they wouldn’t be spammed right?

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>>47430164
You have this mindset like she can do no wrong and owes nobody anything, probably akin to "it's like getting mad at a band for not releasing new music, you still like their old stuff right" etc. Actually, that's incorrect. Gura is a -member of- a band and her absence is fucking felt when they constantly perform without her. At first people are like "whatever I guess she's having issues, long as she sorts it out we'll welcome her back" but when it's like a year+ of awkward absence and the band member has the fucking audacity to pretend like nothing's the matter this whole time, that's something else. Blatant bullshitting, taking advantage of peoples' good will.

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>>47430260
So she's a prostitute according to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
>yesbuds are on the same side as dramachubas
really makes you think

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430260
I’m coming clean. I am all of these retarded posts.
>>47428577
>>47428811
>>47429022
>>47429229
>>47429440
>>47429681
>>47429859
>>47430164
If I convinced anyone I am a chumbud I’m sorry. They just type stupid shit like that all the time so I wouldn’t blame anyone. I don’t dislike her or anything but she’s clearly checked out and has been for over a year. All these retarded super simps need to chill on the oshi worship.

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>>47430306
Tourists and baiters would reply to each other and themselves

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>>47430326
Basically

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430313
I agree with you. I was just taking the piss. Rabid chumbuds are so retarded in their defense posts that I don’t blame some people for falling for it.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura and chumbuds only care about each other. The opinions of outsiders are irrelevant.
If you don't like Gura, then just stop talking. You don't matter.
How many of these virtue signalers are long time Gura members? Probably 0.
This is between her and her fans only.

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>>47430543
Agreed bro. If they haven’t toiled and grown with our oshi from the beginning then they are just fake fans and shouldn’t even post an opinion, because it would just be trolling. Hard agree. Fuck em.

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>>47430164
>There is nothing mentally ill about me defending my oshi from trolls on this shit board
>trolls on this shit board

Yeah your either ill or retarted if you keep feeding the trolls and entertaining them by typing your paragraphs defending gura, I mean your literally on THEE troll website so many learn to ignore instead of biting bait like a brainlet.

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>>47430335
Im disappointed in them desu

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>>47430326
Honestly, wouldn't people be more understanding if she was? Sexual consent is one of those cases where taking it back pre-coitus is the most understandable.

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>>47430604
Refer to >>47430416

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>>47428216
she doesnt stream. but the bigger crime is that she is terrible at explaining or giving excuses for why she doesnt stream. every time she explains she comes out looking worse and looking more like a bullshit artist.

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>>47430543
good thing this thread pertains to the fact a bunch of rainbow tridents were in open rebellion the other day in her prechat. so much so she had to close it and state, for the first time out loud, that things aren't normal and she doesn't know when they will be.

these things have never happened before, not to this direct degree. that's why dramatubers are talking about it.

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>>47430732
Then what do you want her to say? Less is more.

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>>47430326
Do you call your hairdresser or your pizza baker a prostitute?

[Anonymous No.]

>doesn't stream for weeks
>chumbuds get uppity, spam her chat asking for answers when she eventually streams
>anticorns whiteknight gura
>dramatubers boost the drama even louder, more greyfags piling down on actual fans
>"you can stream whenever you want my queen, ignore the membership-paying antis"
>"well, if you say so. Guess I do deserve a break"
>doesn't stream for weeks
>rinse
>repeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428860
Gura has more dead and inactive subs than anyone else BY FAR
She became mainstream and a bunch of normies who want nothing to do with vtubing subscribed and then never watch a single stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430416
ok thanks of the explanation gura you can go back to doing nothing now

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430416
Your not fooling anyone

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>>47430797
And Gura responded to them. Gura legitimately does not care about outsider opinions. She likes her chumbuds and feels safe with them. Outsiders fanning the flames is irrelevant because Gura does not care whatsoever.
She listens to her long-time fans because they know what she's like and she accepts their criticism.
These videos serve no purpose other than rage-bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428216
They are tired of having a shit oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, Gura and Mori really do live rent free in the Jakartans minds 24/7 still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430863
yea basically
i love when people say IT WAS ONE OR TWO PEOPLE after seeing like 1 faggots screenshots spammed on twitter when really there were at least like 20+ tridents bitching about it in chat

[Anonymous No.]

Cumbuds are getting uppity again i see

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>>47430976
Because Gura has told us that we can bitch when we want to. Again, if you don't like her and don't watch her, your opinion is irrelevant. She does not care. She will only be candid in her safe space with her longtime chumbuds.

[Anonymous No.]

Everything is not black and white.

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>>47429929
>Yeah, Gura definitely needs a break
>after taking God knows how many breaks in the span of a single year
Chumbuds are something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47431334
Drama tourists you mean

[Anonymous No.]

Stop spamming gura threads retards, you bring upon yourselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>47431135
True guras an evil cunt there is no inbetween

[Anonymous No.]

You know if there were unironic fedbaiters in /ggg/ all of yesterday I may not blame the dramafags for once.

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>>47430110
yeah showing it to the girl who is known by her genmates for ghosting discord LOL

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>>47430110
That would imply management has even a shred of competence.

[Anonymous No.]

lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428423
Revsaysdesu and hero hei are literally on the spectrum, what do you expect

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428600
Long time members are asking for more communication and gura has become a habitual "detox from the internet" person

[Anonymous No.]

>>47429254
No its been a long time coming, a lot of the rainbow tridents have disappeared in chat

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>>47434451
The spectrum of annoying the shit out of me

[Anonymous No.]

>>47429440
Anon, gura only streamed regularly during the lockdowns, after the lockdowns ended she slowly stopped streaming and has publicly on record said she prefers to go outside instead

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>>47429962
Anon, i assume gura is phoning it in because she joined hololive during a pandemic that no longer affects her

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
not until she graduates

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>>47430038
This. That cunt needs to burn with the rest of the dramafags.

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>>47428103
Once again, I'll say that this kind of person deserves harassment because they're enabling the talent to act in a certain way.
https://twitter.com/kronmeitwt/status/1647145149984636930

Even worse, this person and others have the nerve to accuse their perceived antis as "parasocial fucks" when the parasocial relationship is inherent to the VTuber business and also one of the reasons they're malding on Twitter like this. Literal gaslighting.

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>>47435702
I used to watch him but god his content has gotten progressively worse over the years
I feel like the reason he is defending gura phoning it is because he's been phoning it in

[Anonymous No.]

>opens twitter
>types: Guys, I wont be able to stream this week due to personal matters. I'll let you know when I'll be able to
>clicks tweet
wait, it's that easy???? wtf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
I'm gonna be happier when she actually streams regularly. Doesn't have to be every day. 3 days a week. Doesn't even have to be games.

[Anonymous No.]

KEEP SAYING IT!

[Anonymous No.]

>>47436399
Anon at this point we are begging for one stream every 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
I'll be happy when the ones who do their jobs shame the ones who don't bother into doing it or quitting

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
>/vt/ has no power
>she now "promises" to stream once a week now
kneel chumcucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428610
The "fans turned antis" with tridents from yesterday were casually chatting today during her members BttF watchalong. All these dramafaggots are just blowning some bvtm SEAmonkeys spam out of proportion

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>>47437165
In a member's post?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47437165
I'll believe it when i see it

[Anonymous No.]

>>47437342
watch a long. she says she'll try to stream once a week

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
Is there anything a vtuber can do which won't have people jump to their defense?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47437495
Disparage lolicon pornos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47437495
Not really, the mindless personality cult is the entire point

[Anonymous No.]

>>47429929
>none of them are members
opinion discarded

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>>47429929
She actually took a health break in december. Now it's up to you to say if it's true (in the week Oshi no Ko aired), but it's consistent with what she has said as Gura and as HER before.

>>47437474
>TRY to stream once a week
Jesus shit fuck chumcucks get it together. You're turning into Nakirigumi in real time.

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>>47437454
Just wait for the streamlabs or catbox in the catalog.

>>47438232
They're already turning into Nakirigumi. One stream per week is still a deal and better than no deal, or so I think.

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>>47438232
>>47438488
AYAME DIDN'T STREAM THAT OFTEN BEFORE YOU CAME TO WATCH HOLOLIVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>47438488
>having to bargain for one stream
grim. but keep the pressure up despite what these faggots say and maybe she'll stream 2 or 3 times a week

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>>47428216
>doesn't stream
>OMG SHE LITERALLY HITLER
you sound like a cunt bro. Also everyone know she have medical problem. People make her sound like she murder someone just because she no1 vtuber in the world.

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>>47438947
Holy ESL

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>>47430306
Proof it chumbud and not some retarded falseflagger, they sound too retarded to be a chumbud anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

It's a situation of her own making. Literally just don't ghost your audience. If you need a break, say it and then go on it. Just do at least 1 or 2 nothing tweets like "man garlic bread is just the best" to show your are at least alive. Just be honest about some shit and it's all good for most people. I don't support her anymore because she's just too inconsistent right now. If she actually comes back and streams frequently for a month, I'll probably member again. Otherwise it's not worth it and I'll just wait for a gifted sub

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>>47438545
I mean, this whole mess reminds me of those Ayame bait threads in the catalog. So...

>>47438805
The fun thing is she may or may not be pressured by normies, as anon explains in >>47428423. Also, I can see Gura lured her tridents who were on the edge of the cliff with one or two membership streams per month. Again, it's still a better deal for Chumbuds, given her condition as of now.

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>>47428423
Anon, I ...

[Anonymous No.]

>literally allows her to behave like this
>seethed when its way too late
Should have boycotted her 157th return stream a long time ago, now she knows she can repeat at this cycle of take break for two months and come for return stream forever
>b-but health issue
There's literally a single mother indie streaming to make a living with her daughter wailing in the background, no excuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
What a great opportunity for dramafags to farm viewes.

It would be funny if Cover strike these vids down

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428423
uhm. that's the point, duh

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
no one in vt is actually happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430863
Was Gura the cancer in HoloEN all along?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
If Gura is the hero of unicorns in EN for ignoring the homos why are so many anti unicorns white knighting her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
no

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>>47441888
How is she the "hero of unicorns" when she is only doing what they want because she's scared?

A sheep isn't the hero of sheepdogs because they herd where they tell them.

The only freedom she has is when she's off stream. Nobody would want to stream in her position.

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>>47442569
>she is only doing what they want because she's scared?
Have you posted this opinion in /ggg/? You really should I need some entertainment

[Anonymous No.]

>>47440584
Also for >health, ironmouse exists. so yeah the excuse salad truly is poor form, blowing off the job calling in sick all the time etc.

I bet it's hard for Cover to feel more tangible in the lives of the foreign Holos, because Cover to them is probably usually just some handlers on the internet and not a tangible thing, a building they can go visit like most of the JP girls can whenever they want. As such, it's probably hard to impart motivation, inspiration, leadership etc effectively running a branch over discord/zoom and so it's also hard for them to really have a serious sit-down chat with Gura and not force her to stream against her will but make her want to do it willingly. That's the goal, or at least I would assume it is. Doesn't have to mean I think she has to stream 24/7, just more than like, once a fucking month, and consistently so.

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>>47442865
Kiara was streaming even when she was bed ridden from COVID. She couldn't even speak or move all that much. Gura is a pathetic lying snake.

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>>47442569
gura likes being a sassy loli, she fucking insisted on lewding herself in her anime short and getting a daki. I think it's more like she dislikes how EN management runs and tries to force the branch to go and if offered an ultimatum to do a homo collab or sit out another month, she'll sit it out gladly.

[Anonymous No.]

Asking why she's no longer streaming = hate

What fucking retards made those videos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428577
People are actually taking you serious and it's fucking sad. It just goes to show that chumbuds really do talk like uwu zoomer yesmen. Absolutely the more normie fanbase in HoloEN.

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>>47442949

[Anonymous No.]

>HoloJP was the one to put in all the work to become big. They were nobodies and everyone worked hard to get to where they currently are, walking through the mud to become some of the biggest and most watched streamers.
>HoloEN debuts and are an instant success. Never needed to go through what JP did. They put less effort into streaming because they don't need to do anything when the holo name is already big.
Just imagine what a corp would be like if myth was it's own corp. Imagine how holo would be like if the early streamers were like myth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47442949
>Kiara went as far as to post photos of her respiratory airways just to prove she was actually sick.
KFP have it good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47438947
He was asking what was going on not joining in, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>47443099
Dramfags for dramatourists

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430865
And you determine this how? She has the most vods over a million in the company with 10 more expected to be added within this year. Every single song she makes passes 1 million the only one in the company that has that honor. Counting ccv in the company she ranks 6-7. She breaks records constantly. So many of her karaoke and clips break a million. The jews used her name in their shorts and are now exploding. She holds the record for highest stream by an active holo. What else does she need to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47443549
imagine if Gura was one of the hundreds of latefags who started after Myth proved big-name legit Japanese-led vtubing actually can be a thing in the West. if she debuted within 6 months of myth she'd possibly be doing pretty alright on twitch, probably at least a decently-known 3view or low 4view - if she was very devoted to the craft to work her name up. that's the thing however, before Gura she didn't actually stream much, her natural inclination is to fucking barely do it at all. she would literally have been nothing special without Holo. her getting a lot of subs on her PL didn't translate much into money, she was an abject poorfag prior to Holo.

since she knows these things I think she does still have a core respect for Cover and what the Chumbuds did to make her rich, she definitely doesn't come across as ungrateful generally when she speaks (you get more of that vibe from mori/kronii, or ina basically thinking she never needed to be here etc). however her will/ability to commit to the gig faded out for whatever reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430976
Well today hundreds of 30month members said they love her and ignore the fake fans so your point means nothing. It’s not a monolith and they seem ok with how things are now

[Anonymous No.]

>>47444532
Basic math? Look at the difference between Gura's sub count and the average subs of other holos and then get the ratio to views. It's absurdly lower

[Anonymous No.]

>>47444532
>Every single song she makes
Got an example from this year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47444861
nta but she had a cover with bae last month. I get the sentiment, though. In almost 3 years she has a whopping 4 covers and 1 original song. Not much of an achievement to get all of them to 1 million

[Anonymous No.]

>>47434949
Lie she did 22 public streams in January 2022 and then immediately dropped off in February when she got covid. March to May is her working on her 3D. If you count her members streams she was still streaming once every 2-3 days not counting collabs on other channels. She didn’t have a serious drop off until November when her computer broke a week before thanksgiving. She wasn’t doing 200 streams like kiara but 135 isn’t bad considering this isn’t counting members and collabs on other channels. People only pay attention now because people started watching the other girls less after a certain date in july.

>she also released 3 covers, featured in 2 originals, her 3D plus the remade 3D, appeared in 6 lives as a guest including holo summer, and was working on the holo27 song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103

OP, what's the point of shilling your drama channel in here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47436078
People on twitter don’t watch streams why should they matter. Even if she did post there half the people that watch her streams wouldn’t know me included in that

[Anonymous No.]

>>47437495
Agree with troons on twitter about either lolis or traps. Remember Finana

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430058
Yes because the biggest vtuber in the world is pewdiepie or xqc. Everyone knows this and are just humoring gura to not hurt her feelings. It’s tough that she brings up being number 1 every stream it’s her whole identity. Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>47431095
>Because Gura has told us that we can bitch when we want to
...do you really expect leeching dramaniggers to watch enough gura to know this? they want a simple "good guys and bad guys" drama for views

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430313
No if they can’t capture an audience while she’s not there that’s there problem not hers. Pekora took a 6 week break everyone in JP steps up. You can only blame en management releasing homos and the girls humoring it.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura threads should only be allowed to be made at the same frequency as she streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47444532
>someone else debuts as Gura
>our timeline's Gura debuts 2 years later
>becomes the true Gura killer

[Anonymous No.]

>>47446704
>The more they stream, the more threads they should get.
TOTAL MAYODOG DOMINATION

[Anonymous No.]

>>47431095
Yeah she is stringing you along and milking you for that monthly membership. She's telling you that she doesn't care how much you complain but if you ever get tired of no streams and bad communication and cancel your membership then you lose your right to an opinion regardless of how long you were a member previously.
You shouldn't have to pay to be considered a fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>Hasn't graduated
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>47445911
>People on twitter don’t watch streams
source: the voices in my head

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430260
Not even close. If the perks for purchasing a membership would be to guarantee streams on specific time frames and/or communicating about her personal life, this would be a completely different story. I don't care if there was a precedent, situations change and you have to either get used to it, or cancel it and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

Lol i had to turn the one from rev off after 1 minute because he was already lying. No one wants an explanation why she gone or what she did. They just want a heads up if you are taking a break instead of ghosting for weeks on end. That's literally it and it's not difficult. I just think Gura is afraid to tell her fans because she's taken so many breaks already and if she said she was going on another 2 week break the fans would be mad. Maybe some would but not saying anything and ghosting is worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428577
I read this thinking people would laugh at the satire you were obviously going for.
Then I started reading the replies...

[Anonymous No.]

>>47445174
Got a solo cover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47444791
By this arbitrary standard
>kiara 12% / 11%
>mori 27% / 14%
>gura 17% / 14%
>ina 15% / 13%
>ame 11% / 10%
>irys 24% / 19%
>bae 19% / 15%
>kronii 23% / 21%
>fauna 27% / 24%
Wrong again I did with everything and only vods mori only beats out gura if you include her music and she’s an artist channel. She has tens of millions on her multiple topic songs so just removing those would put her in line with myth and removing songs but leaving topics she matches gura. Which means no Gura has the best percentage of vod watchers to her subs in myth. The more council grows the worse their percentages become because their vods do worse than mori and ina. So even being generous you’re fucking wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47449733
He probably wanted you to compare it to JPs like Pekora, Marine, Miko, etc., not EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47447610
Newfag that’s also a twitter troon

[Anonymous No.]

>>47443150
They’re the easiest to impersonate because they type like massive simping faggots. “Muh queen can do no wrong.”

[Anonymous No.]

>>47442978
Holy shit could it be that she's in hiatus because of those damn homos!? Stars are a mistake. I don't know why Cover is still shoving them in our faces, even forcing Gura to take vacations!

[Anonymous No.]

>>47449878
Removing the non vods takes a good minute beside because they have a lot of small videos shorts and songs
>Marine 22%
>Pekora 20%
>Miko 18%
>Suisei 43%
Just eyeballing miko should fall to 14-15% depending on rounding pekora should be 18-19%, marine 18-19% and suisei should probably follow the same track as mori and be 20%. Suisei is also an artist channel that gets topic views. These are some of the few jps that beat gura and it’s not by much once again showing it’s not by much. Kobo falls at 16% with everything and 13%.

Most subs most vods over a million and only holomember with every song over a million. You’d think that would be enough but they have to bring her down somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
>fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>47442949
Gura had covid during late February to early march and didn’t tell anyone she was sick with covid until months later after someone else brought up that fauna mentioned it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428216
People don't enjoy feeling lied to. Go figure

[Anonymous No.]

>>47450665
They never released an official statement that she got covid either like the other members. That always made me curious as to why they didn’t.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47442978
She says she hates them all the time. En management has a vendetta against gura trying to cancel all her shit, never getting her the games perms and not even allowing her to post a short from her minecraft stream while same week Kiara could post a short from her stream within 24 hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47450767
Remember when the biggest cope was her “secret projects” now chumbuds just have to pretend that they love that their oshi doesn’t stream and that they’ll eat her shit if it means she’s happy. Don’t ask her to tweet out anything resembling a stream schedule, because that’s abusive. Lmao the state of chumbuds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47450917
Chumbuds remind me of Ian Watkins, what a swell guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>47444580
Gura would succeed no matter the situation debuting on twitch, as project hope council, or even nijien she would succeed. I don’t know being poor but she was not even close to as down bad as everyone else. Hololive most important thing is doing concerts namely holofes and she’s at her happiest preparing for these events. These events always ends in a burst of streams as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>47450917
>Remember when the biggest cope was her “secret projects”
T-Two more weeks, y-you'll see

[Anonymous No.]

>>47450961
Lmao. Yah I think Ian Watkins would fit right in with the average yesmanbud who posts on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47451110
kek chumbuds are Ian Watkins of hololive, the absolute state of her community

[Anonymous No.]

>>47442949
the problem is nobody want kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47445174
>>47444861
Sweet appetite from holo27 it’s not a cover but an original and hers is the most watched original
off her channel She has one on mori, kiara, shion, matsuri, ame, the umisea songs, the hololive songs, ochame kinou, journey, Christmas, and snow halation. Snow halation to my knowledge being the only song with gura involved to not reach a million but not her channel.
>>47449188
Blue archive

[Anonymous No.]

>>47450875
Her and fauna asked not to because they wanted to stream. If they make the statement they usually put you on break

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty easy to tell which disability Gura had if you just pay attention to the symptoms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47450917
>>47451100
>3D live + Birthday 3D
>3 covers
>Q
>rerecorded umisea song with chloe
>Umisea comics
>holosummer
>jazz reflect (unreleased)
>Appeared in 6 different lives as a guest
>Animation
None of these seem to count for the projects I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47451451
Alcoholism but we all like to pretend that’s not the case so as to not make the cumbuds shit their pants and cry.

[Anonymous No.]

I’ll never understand why people that don’t watch her claim they know her better than her own coworkers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47439068
Chumbuds can't even stop replying in their own general. Your lot are retarded, esl-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47451881
people would watch her is she actually streamed

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428216
Chumbuds are one of the worst fanbases within the Hololive ecosystem.
They are rabid fans who antagonized literally every other Holo fanbase at the outset by spamming her numbers on other Holo chats, spamming "Gura started" on Watson and other EN streams, treated Amelia as "Gura's friend" (causing the breakup of one of the only good ships in HoloEN).
It went so far that Fubuki had to put up a statement saying something along the lines of "it's sad to compare" in one of her streams when chumbuds were shitting on her for getting overtaken by Gura in subs.

They only watch Gura, never watch any of her friends, never participate in the greater Hololive ecosystem, call "holo unity" as reddit faggotry and - worst of all - are fucking proud of this fact.
The Hololive ecosystem is designed around the "Box", where fans can watch other holo members and their oshi's friends if shes's on a break for one reason or another, and can watch her with a fresh mind when she comes back and starts streaming again.
Thanks to their retarded isolationist policies, chumbuds can't into this system. Hence when Gura doesn't stream, the only thing they can do is seethe about the shitposts and wait for her. They're too proud to watch any other EN - or hell, literally do anything else.

Naturally, they gathered the enmity of many a schizo who spend all day shitting on their thread and in the catalog in order to mindbreak them.
All of their retarded shitposting has come to bite them in the ass now, and they are mentally fragile kids who naturally can't take it and lash out at the first target presented to them - Gura herself.
Is it any wonder that Gura herself hates her fanbase, and wants to filter it down to a small comfy size of people who are simply happy to watch her when she has some free time to stream? I hope with these recent "breaks" these fucks finally get the message and leave, but considering their mental illness, it's more likely that they will join Gura schizos to spam the catalog and /ggg/, talking about how they're a "ex-chumbuds" and what not, and continue seething about her 24x7 along with other like minded retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47451937
Getting a chumbud to bite is easier than shooting fish in a barrel. It’s not fair. To them or to the baiters. Chumbuds on average are just dumb and fanatical enough to jump on even a crumb of bait. And oh boy if you lump in a legitimate criticism or two then they lose their fucking minds.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive fans are so fucking toxic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47452246
you mean chumbuds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47452246
>idolfags are toxic
In other news water is wet

[Anonymous No.]

>>47452246
Why do you think people call them holobronies

[Anonymous No.]

>>47444532
>What else does she need to do?
Stream. That's what it boils down to and that's what we haven't been getting in any consistent way for over a year. She essentially ran off to do various projects that never materialized and on top of that participated in all the usual Hololive fests and such. Now, the main problem here is that she seems to have forgotten that we are here primarily for one thing and one thing only - her streams. She completely neglected the very foundation of her fame and what made her who she is. All the excuses about health, obligations, internet hort, tummy hort, "working" on this or that non-existent project, it all boils down into a crock of shit. I simply do not believe that she has ANY health problems at all at this point, and when you compare her output to other Hololive members who dance, sing, participate in events etc. it's impossible to defend her. She exploited and exhausted all the good will she had and is now exploiting the nostalgia we feel for her from back when she gave a damn. She is effectively destroying her own career, all the goodwill we had and has genuinely faded from view.

The only thing that can save her now is if she returns to the grind and streams daily. But I don't think she will and she seems completely out of it, and even this watchalong we had was just something that was done out of obligation, not genuine interest. The cherry on top is that she doesn't seem to realize just how much regrets she'll have for the rest of her life if she fucks this up for herself, and it's infuriating seeing it because the world is becoming more and more difficult to live in, and everything is shit - and she has the golden ticket to actually have a good life despite of that, and she's throwing it away for nebulous reasons. It SHOULD NOT MATTER whether she's sick, depressed, whatever - this is her ONLY chance at making it in life and if she can't endure a bit of discomfort then fuck it. She genuinely needs to start acting like an adult.

On top of all of this, she has declined as a streamer across the last year plus. She is just a shadow of herself and has forgotten how to be entertaining. She is not as good as she once was, by a wide margin, and she needs to grind and fight if she wants to salvage her streaming and her fucking life. It would be preferable to get hooked on coke or booze if necessary to GRIND than to fall by the wayside as a hasbeen and never have this kind of opportunity. MONEY IS EVERYTHING NOW and unless she realizes than means streaming and grinding she'll end up genuinely poor, and 30 years down the line regrets will destroy her. She barely did anything for a whole year, Anon. And what she did was subpar. She either goes back to daily streaming, or she doesn't survive summer. Going to Japan again will tank her permanently unless she streams regularly until then. But she won't. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it. She is simply done, and all that's left to do is to watch the decline. She's unwilling to do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428423
>why are channels that feed on drama for views doing something that will make drama worse?
it's a mystery

[Anonymous No.]

>>47452028
goddamn gotta love gura if she makes numberfags seething this hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>47451351
>Gura
>wanting to stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>47453874
Eh well, there are 9 other EN girls for chumbuds to tune into and become supporters of if they feel like Gura isn’t the one anymore. Another day will pass and the HoloBox will continue to hold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47452028
This is a good post. I'd like to believe that some disaffected Gura fans will realize that she's not the only vtuber that will appeal to them out there. The ones that just watch because she has the most subs probably should find a new hobby anyway. And the rest that care about her should really calm down and send her well-wishes instead of being such easy marks for shitposters to target.

As for Gura, I hope whatever she's dealing with gets at least a bit better, and she's able to settle into a more conservative schedule. That won't shut up the people who think she has some kind of obligation to stream a certain amount of hours per week, but they'd keep doing fantasy managing of her life no matter what is going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47454181
Gura is the only Holo I watch. I'm into small corpos. HoloEN itself has died the death of a thousand yabs for me, and Tempus was the death blow.

[Anonymous No.]

NEW NORMAL

[Anonymous No.]

>>47453874
sanest chumbud

[Anonymous No.]

>"""""""""attacking"""""""""""
>asking her to please communicate better if she cancels streams on days where she said she would stream, at least a short tweet or community post that takes 1 min to write
>attacking

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
that's because you cumbuddies kept paying memberships. How about you stop giving her free child support until she actually does her job?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430150
But her fans are disgusting losers that deserve to be executed against a wall, how could she care

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430732
unicorns when they discover that women do indeed do women things

[Anonymous No.]

>>47458195
yea its pretty pathetic how "people" are spinning this

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103

[Anonymous No.]

>>47450767
Now that's a lie. This whole board is build on a lie.
You don't really think Gura is a 5000year old shark from Atlantis, do you?

[Anonymous No.]

I never gave a fuck about antis or trolls
I just want gura around
I just want her to talk to us more...

[Anonymous No.]

>>47429254
>like 2 guys?
Stop it. You know it was more than just 2. Stop damage controlling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428423
That's the plan. Make it more shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47453949
Baffling response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47453874
I Am Not Defending Her Lack Of Streams These Are Just Actual Facts
First that post was directed at a guy that wrongfully claimed she had the most dead subs because of an arbitrary metric. Even using it the only people in holo live with a better percentage than her are people under a million or channels with shorts/music/videos on their channel like mori miko suisei marine pekora. Removing those and they fall below her or barely over her. Second you obviously just don’t watch gura because last year she did 135ish public streams to kiara’s 215. She did well over 10 members streams so she got about 145 streams minimum for the year averages out to 1 stream every 3 days. Her only bad months was November when her pc exploded on stream the week before thanksgiving and December which cover had to make a statement about her health issues and start an official break. Being pessimistic and including her break she’s been inconsistent for less than 6 months and falls to 2 months if you include the break.

Lastly people want her to stream I want her to stream en girls want her to stream but you’re wrong about saying she has to stream. Worst case scenario her vods no longer tick all her fans unmember and nobody buys her personal merch how do you stop being buying gura ip merch in japan? 4 Best selling figures with another on the way, the lunch box set selling out, myth events that even if you don’t buy her stuff she gets a percentage. Most of en couldn’t live off that 10% but Gawr Gura could.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47452028
Prove any of the things you. Go into fubuki streams from that time and screenshot the spamming. Prove that they aren’t watching mumei fauna and irys the others don’t matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>47451937
Nta but replying in their general while being raided means they scour the board for any gura mentions? The one time ggg decided not to make one because they got raided so much they all separated into the global and numbers which then began to make organic gura bait. Which I gotta say was funny. One anon brought choo choo Charles perms and said she might come back to play that then out of nowhere Gura’s a bitch. It was ignored at first but it kept going eventually turning into a Gura defense thread. Either way they probably keep in containment more than any other fanbase by the sole fact any thread would get overwhelmed. If there’s more anti post then defense post then it’s not chumbuds

[Anonymous No.]

>>47458195
Yes it's an attack you fucking twitter tranny.
How can you know better than Gura herself why she has to take these many breaks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47454434
>this is a good post
well I'm glad you like what you wrote but you really should stop samefagging. You do this to almost all your post in other threads too and it's fucking weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>47430254
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428286
Gotta milk those viewers
Drama vids don't produce themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
Must be a slow day

[Anonymous No.]

>>47452028
Sounds like you were mindbroken by a handful of shitposters/falseflaggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47454061
You fell for the meme that she didn’t stream consistently in 2022. Means you’re a threadreader which would be my follow up why do you care if you only read the threads here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47464234
Don’t you get it every single person that says her name is her fan so they’re definitely chumbuds. Only people not named Gura fan have falseflaggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>47463487
https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/jep96k/message_from_fubuki_regarding_the_sub_count_war/?sort=top

[Anonymous No.]

>>47464720
fucking kek this aged like a dead rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>47459411
yes, because none of the HOLOS have any reason to LIE TO THEIR FANS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47451451
Crippling depression?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
What hell game is this nigga playing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47454595
Same here. I tried watching the Easter Collab and Kiara x Neuro Sama's fridge thing, but I fell asleep in both cases.
If Gura streams (with a decent mood) I'll watch her, otherwise I'll stick to small corpos and JP chuubas. The rest of HoloEN is already a dead horse. I finally understand why JP idols for the most part have an expiration date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47459411
Watch Oshi no ko.
People like us want to be *skillfully lied to* and we'll pay a pretty penny for the privilege.
Gura instead has been ghosting her fans more and more, and when she lies, she's not very skilled anymore because she's rusty. That's what her fans are angry about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47464350
>meme
She has streamed progressively less since debut, almost linearly so, right down to the rock-bottom we had until recently. It was obvious how she was feeling about streams as early as post-first anniversary.
Seems like you're the newfag threadwatcher if you don't even remember 2020-2021 Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
Clickbait on YT?!?! Well I never...

[Anonymous No.]

>>47469248
This is my favorite anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428782
>everyone jumps on them and calls them antis
you mean the gray poor fag- i mean the smash like """"""supporters""""""

[Anonymous No.]

>>47469917
I guess reading isn’t a strong trait in this thread. I said she still streamed consistently in 2022. April to June 30+ streams August-October 30+ streams January-March 40+ streams. In 2022 she still streamed consistently with only 2 outliars January being far and away the most and December the least. I only brought up 2022 because the conversation was about 2022. So again you’re just a thread reader if you say she isn’t consistent

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428782
I could be wrong but I think she has an equal number of members streams to public streams this year or at least really close. So yes they are getting what they paid for

[Anonymous No.]

>>47452246
Blame Yagoo. He wanted the idol dream for his company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428169
>makes gura seethe

Yeah lol
>reddit spacing

[Anonymous No.]

>>47458195
>infrequent is the new normal
THIS IS NOT ENOUGHHHH AIIIEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>47473624
Ya, I guess it isn't since I said nothing about streaming consistency, retard-kun. I implied that her not wanting Cover to announce she had covid wasn't because she """wanted to stream""".
Or maybe you replied to the wrong post?

[Anonymous No.]

When you're an artist with talent you typically get to make your own schedule. You all talk about this like it's a no call no show you pull at your wagie job. You don't understand what it's like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47475842
There are two groups that are upset at gura, one wants more streams, the other just wants better communication. Even if she isn't going to stream she can tweet out at her fans. The fact that she would say on stream she is returning to a regular schedule then ghost everyone instead of sending a tweet that things came up and she's going to keep the infrequent schedule is why a lot of people got annoyed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47474818
In all seriousness I was trying to reply to your post and another one then I deleted the one I thought was yours because no reason to argue that but I stand by my statement. She didn’t want a forced break because she wanted to stream and stream she did. She also kept that level of consistency right until her pc blew up. Now answer this if she had a company backed excuse to not stream for at minimum a month why would she not take it if she didn’t like streaming? B-But she doesn’t like letting people know her personal problems she could have also just took a standard break. She could do what she’s doing now and ghost everyone. So again why would she do this if she hates streaming? Lets pretend now is different and she does hate streaming what changed with En management June to July that made her hate it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47475842
I want to see all of hololive follow gura's footsteps.
As another anon pointed out, the JP side understands and experienced what it was like to start small and slowly build up. Gura and EN didn't so she, and the rest, are taking things for granted. A corp doesn't get big by doing what gura is doing. Remove the holo brand from her name and no one would be defending her this much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47476300
Well obviously they aren't getting either, so it seems like time to accept that. She's always been shit at communicating, so they are asking for something she never did and obviously never will. She's demonstrated that she isn't going to stream regularly for quite a long time now. It's time to face fucking reality. What the fuck is going on in these people's lives that her crappy streams are so important? It all seems so disassociated from reality. I sort of understand those that bait the schizos, but the people who honestly feel this way? What the fuck. They should learn from Ina's fans who seem to have accepted she's basically dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47476603
>B-But she doesn’t like letting people know her personal problems she could have also just took a standard break
That IS the problem though, as much as you want to pretend Gura isn't a paranoid schizofrenic who autistically values her privacy. She doesn't even want her genmates telling stories about her without her permission, ffs.
Someone who constantly ghosts everyone isn't going to want the worldwide attention an official 'HEY EVERYONE GURA HAS COVID NOW' announcement gets.
>Lets pretend
We don't have to pretend anything, and it's pointless trying to guess why, because she obviously just does. Her actions alone show that.
Rather play games with her friends? Sick of her fans? Can't get permissions for games that she'll drop after one stream? Who the hell knows, and the reason doesn't really matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47477273
Personally I don't care what gura does. I just follow hololive and was sharing my observations on the issue. All I want from EN is for them to bring JP talents to the US for concerts and fix the shipping costs on the holopro store.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47477204
For that, I'll up again on the differences between JP VTuber and EN VTuber, like in the picrel. It's mucho texto, but it's interesting, at least for me.

>>32823068
>>32827971
>>32829027
>>32834346
>>32868234

It doesn't help that some fuckers on Twitter like this helped Gura and other HoloEN talents to discourage the attitude of the JP side you just explained.
https://twitter.com/SimpaGator/status/1646984978159353859

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>>47477204
I’ve gone on record to say almost none of en would ever make it without hololive except gura. Everyone in jp understands hololive is their golden ticket or only chance at success and none of them take it for granted while en believes that it’s just a platform. Gura is neither of those things she doesn’t need it but it’s not wrong to say she’s more successful in hololive. There’s yet to be an en member so bubbly and happy about standing on the shoulders of giants like her. She spent her 2 million celebration singing hololive songs crying and guest appearances in lives make her so happy. She’s not taking anything for granted every million she gets she’s happy about but has never asked to be the number 1 vtuber let alone so much higher than jp. Hololive was growing and would continue to grow but it exploded because of gura. Unless you don’t trust yagoo’s own words she helped growth tremendously. Sometimes a business just needs there mascot to start growing faster. And even without the brand some people no matter how unfair you think it is are just made for success.

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>>47477273
>They should learn from Ina's fans who seem to have accepted she's basically dead.
I would like to point out the shitters on /vt/ don't make "X doesn't stream" threads with Ina. Gura's antis are the truly obsessed ones.

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>>47478149
You quoted the next statement being she could have taken a standard break or just started ghosting people back then. But no she’s so schizophrenic she thought streaming would be safer not that she likes streaming. See how crazy you sound, when there’s 3 options 2 of them giving no information one such option done by fauna, but you’d rather believe she hates streaming.

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>>47428600
>Does Gura really not stream that much to deserve hate?
You tell me.

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>>47478574
Most of jp accepts the love of their fans and some of them only appear as guest because their fans like seeing them. Okayu did her sololive and mio now wants one because they felt it’s the best thank you they can give to their fans who love their singing. Now explain to me how Gura did anything different from jp. And before bringing up lack of streams Ayame/Shion. But twitter everyone time she brings up completely random or inane things like garlic bread people still complain.

[Anonymous No.]

I was a Gura fan after that first stream. So many well timed zingers. After that tho, she got too comfy and her shrimps just excused everything. I think if her fans demanded more and actually paid her more (Gura has some of the lowest akasupas every stream and she consistenly gets BTFO in stream numbers compared to most holoJPs and even vshoujo sometimes) then that would have motivated her to try harder.

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>>47428278
*rapes and kills you*

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>>47428600
Short answer yes long answer no she streamed an average amount in 2022 lots of people above and below. There’s not much complaining as they make it out to be in her recent watchalong a couple 100 29-30 month members essentially day 1 were acting like business as usual love confessions, stream ideas, begging for asmrs, karaokes for celebrations and nearly creepy trap her in a fish bowl to always be with her and watch her. There were new members telling her to go at her own pace as well but were mainly asian currency

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>>47478574
That whole "she owes you nothing" attitude is dumb. She owes them EVERYTHING. If it wasn't for the fans, especially long-time fans, she would be manning the fucking cash register as she looks for increasingly dwindling voice acting roles, because that's all she can do. The least she can do is to give them what they're here for. And the whole tummy hort thing is bullshit, we have Vtubers with actual chronic illnesses doing ten times as much as she does.
Entertain me, you dumb bitch.

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>>47479008
>Just because she didn't make up a different excuse to take a break means she loves streaming
You usually have to waste your time and go to the fucking doctor and get a note from them if you want to take time off from work, no matter what the cause, and people like Gura avoid doing that shit. So yes, it was probably better in her mind to not even tell management she was sick.
Either way, you'd have to be a retard to think she enjoyed streaming past the first year

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>>47479694
Not a real fan then. The only time she matched myth members in streams she and mori were not far off in superchats. Her members streams average $2k minimum every time she does one. Only other members i have is Irys and she’s a big hitter with superchats but her minimum is about 1k. If she needed sc, which she doesn’t the ad revenue off vods including old ones outpace everyone’s supers, just streaming more would put her at the top all while almost never reading sc. Stream numbers is also based on hours streamed more you stream more you get. If she streamed as much as pekora they’d have to fight for number 1 female streamer. It’s like claiming Usyk is better despite never getting to fight Ali.

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>>47480691
What are you talking about you can go on break anytime you want in hololive. There doesn’t have to be a reason and more importantly they knew she had it she told them not to say anything it was fine

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>>47480065
Except nobody in this world owes you anything. Someone can save your life right now and you still wouldn’t owe him anything. Gratitude is a choice not an obligation. She’s not like the other en girls who were abject failures or Ina no longer able to work because of artist block. She could succeed at most things if she tried. At this point cover is probably paying her more than her members. Tummy hort was ame nothing to do with gura. You don’t actually watch gura

Outside Of The Statements Being Wrong You Are Personally Correct. She Should Be Streaming Despite The Problems. JP Ruins Their Voice Hands Nene Fractured Her Ribs Practicing and They Don’t Stop Until A Doctor Rings The Bell Or Korone’s Case She Starts Yelling At Everyone Besides Her Fans. It’s A Tight Rope Walk That She’s Failing Made All The More Clear By En Being So Much Worse Than Her

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>>47479430
You have to ask those schizo tridents like this who think it's not enough.

It's funny that even if it's just one or two tridents that rambling about it, it caused some Holofans malding on Twitter and Gura had to close the chat for a while. The whole "a-a-achksually it's just minority!1!!1!" is now just a terrible copium when even just one or two Chumbuds can cause this whole mess.

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>>47481137
I doubt they can go on a multiple weeks/month break without a doctor's confirmation, or else they'd just bullshit all the time, and she probably didn't even tell them or know she had covid right away. It was right before the off-collab, so she probably only got tested then.
Those 2 weeks she said she had covid, she only streamed like 3 or 4 days, so she obviously did took a break for it, with streams in between

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>>47482424
Can't believe Lily Hops would say this wtf

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>>47481791
No one is asking her to go above and beyond, just the bare minimum. Sure, no one in this world owes anyone anything but that still doesn't make their actions or inaction excusable. Someone collapses on the ground. You don't NEED to help them but people will still judge you on your actions or inaction. You don't NEED to help others but people can and will still judge you and can say things like you're lazy and self centered. You don't do your job and always call out or go on long absences? People will say you are lazy and unreliable. You don't NEED to explain anything but that doesn't mean you're free from judgement.
Gura signed up for it. She has peers that work. All the previous talents set a standard for the company. Why should she be held to a different standard from everyone else? It's like joining an idol corp and saying you don't like idols. She joined a company that is about streaming but she doesn't stream.

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>>47482424
Most of the tridents during the watchalong seemed ok with it some saying they’ll never stop waiting as long as she doesn’t want to leave. One side is acting like the gf that’s worried they’re being cheated on the other side acts like the gf that doesn’t want to be abandoned. She pretty much gave them the same answer as the note to. Only difference is there’s 2 guaranteed streams 1000 day celebration for members and another weird game like choo choo charley. These are the only guaranteed streams and the closest to a schedule. Possibly one public and members stream a week as well

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>>47482714
Except they can ayame stopped streaming for 68+ days and it wasn’t an official break. It wasn’t even until 30 or so days in that she even mentioned it was a family emergency currently happening and she said it wouldn’t be long. Shion also goes missing to the point that a pokemon release is the only guaranteed stream a year.
>>47483736
Did you ignore the latter half of my statement I said she should be doing it. But again none of that is her job nor is it written in the job description still. There’s only 3 things a talent has to do Holofes, Birthday, and 3D debut. The debut is only once at that and if cover thought it was a problem they would chew her out. Again outside of that wrong statement I completely agree. If her peers in En weren’t shit nobody would complain and ik this because before tempiss nobody was complaining. Same reason nobody complains about ina not streaming or paywalling her updates. If we had en3 nobody would complain and if it was still just council and myth nobody would complain. Now even if en3 debuts everyone expects 5 baes and again nobody watches her. The enemy is tempiss and management for ruining gura’s mood attack them

[Anonymous No.]

being in the vtuber world for around 2 yrs now watching hololive and a lot of popular indys you can clearly see that a good portion of their viewers are kids with mental illnesses. Normal Vtuber viewers who are chill ppl tend to lean more toward watching smaller streamers.

Stop acting like psycho's. problem solved

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oh it's rev desu that cringe fucking troon great

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>>47482714
>Ayame
>Shion
No shit, they've been in hololive for years. They have the luxury of seniority and probably re-negotiated their contracts to become mascots, just like Gura has now.
Just look at Sana to see what happens when you can't stream as much as you're supposed to as a newbie.

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>>47484932
meant for
>>47484443

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>>47482424
>reddit spacing
>one or two
there were fuck tons of them its just that only like 4 were really pushing the issue

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>>47428600
She's essentially burnt out from the internet and probably wants to settle down and have kids

[Anonymous No.]

>>47478861
Yes "antis"

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>>47430863
What compels a person to become an anticorn?

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>please stream/communicate more
>You entitled piece of shit anti!
:l

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>>47485330
This but unironically and without your faggot passive aggressive emote

[Anonymous No.]

>>47444580
Ina never needed to be in Hololive and both Mori and Kronii are grateful.

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>>47485691
kys

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>>47429962
You're not a clown you're the entire circus.

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>>47482878
See picrel. Ignoring the greynames, Lily hooper, GreaseCat, username, Starcruiser, Megusexual (?), Mas0n, that's what it seems to push Gura. Others are pretty much the opposite of them, like The Last Fenian, Cat Rice, and Bjoarn The Atlantean Guard. I personally chuckled when I see Carlos Garcia with his pfp.

>>47483826
Oh, it's good to hear that. At least, there's a deal between Gura and her Chumbuds.

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>>47428103
Maybe she will really graduate after all this.

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>>47428667
Actually this!

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>>47428103
Yes i am fuck gura there are 100 talents out there that would kill for a chance to be in her place and actually like streaming

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>>47478574
> Make a hololive game [lol]
Well at least Ame seems to have remembered her goal again
> Improve Japanese [lol]
Six months later... ouch

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>>47479430
> Now explain to me how Gura did anything different from JP
Rule #1 : Never lie to your fans.
I don't really watch Gura but the gist of the complaints I could see was that they were completely left with zero idea about whatever the fuck Gura was doing during her absence.
Ayame, Shion, Aqua, all of these "non-streamers" as you call it, give regular updates to their fanbase.
It's not daily, but you can always check their twitter every couple of days and see stuff like this -
https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1646411993807749120
It reassures the fans that
> they are alive and healthy
> they are doing some work (recordings in this case)
> they are having fun (hanging out with other holos)

Ina is the only other EN on frequent breaks and she does regularly post tweets like this -
https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1646452139663974400
It doesn't show anything, but Takos already know that Ina lives an unhealthy life, and so they will be fine as long as there's a few tweets here and there updating the fans.

Chumbuds have been patient for over a year with irregular streaming schedules and getting ghosted.
Most recently though, Gura came back after her health hiatus, and said that she would be streaming regularly again...
and then just up and left again.
People got concerned, what if her health is bad? Is she ok? Is she working on something? WHAT'S HAPPENING!?
Her response?
> garlic bread
that was basically what broke the entirety of the fanbase, just all of their concerns meaning fuck all and Gura just doing Gura things, not giving updates, flaking the fuck out and generally taking her fanbase for granted.

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>>47490763
you forgot to mention that, as soon as it was clear that gura got the message, the long time members bringing up their concerns cooled off and haven't brought it to any of the communication outlets that gura is likely to see since

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>>47478574
Based chumbie knows what's up

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>>47491144
True, just like how real fans act with their oshi.
I remember how deadbeats used to be the first to criticize Mori for all her fuckups, long time members would be roasting her in the comments for being unprepared for collabs and wasting other holos' times and then blaming it all on the "curse" while having a perfectly functional Gigguk collab with zero hiccups the very next day.
Now all that's left are Deadbeat Yes-men.

I just hope Gura's fans keep holding her to the standards she has set for herself, despite what greys and non-fans keep saying.

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>>47468839
>I finally understand why JP idols for the most part have an expiration date.

The problem for them is that they have to show their real body and face and the cutesy singing/dancing thing stops working as they age. The skilled ones eventually move into proper acting or singing, the less skilled ones retire and fade into obscurity or operate as background to the younger and more popular idols. I mean, isn't there a handful of people in AKB48 in their 30s now?

With this in mind, I think Botan at 4th fes was unique to watch knowing that she's quite old compared to everyone else but is probably one of the more skilled in terms of contemporary singing and dancing, and operating an avatar means her real appearance and age aren't a serious factor.

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>>47484932
Why do people push this they were fired angle? There’s literally been 3 fired talents predebut, post debut, and rushia. Three vastly different scenarios and causes ending in termination no graduation stream. Coco and Sana handled in the complete opposite position even extending merch sales so they can get a bigger stack cash to go on their way with. Rushia had hers canceled and a refund offered. When you’re flipping around in your head to max sense of this is it at least a perfect 10?

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>>47486884
It’s definitely not close to as one sided as people push

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>>47479694
>and actually paid her more
what's the point of superchatting if there's no superchat reading?

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>>47464791
Aged like fine wine. Gura is the only holo to never have lectured which by default makes her the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47469248
>watch rent a girlfriend spinoff
Nah

[Anonymous No.]

>>47428103
Oh it's videos made by that pedo Rev

[Anonymous No.]

>>47492741
>Oshi no ko
>rent a girlfriend spinoff
meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>47492957
>you can't compare my favorite ntr animes
I did.

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>>47490763
To my knowledge she has not lied yet. >Not saying anything isn’t a lie.
If you scroll up to the other picture you’ll see an equal number defending her if not more than the ones complaining about communication.
Ayame and shion used to tweet at the same consistency as gura before getting their sub account where they can talk about absolutely nothing without hundreds of thousands of people putting it under a microscope. You think if gura made a sub twitter account she wouldn’t reach a million again and run into the same problem? You don’t watch gura so you wouldn’t know but she gets more hate than mori got at her worst consistently. Her daki had thousands of people attacking her and this is routine. It’s easier to ignore when you don’t actually use twitter. Even when she does try innocuous tweets some attack her for it just being something random. Ina went through a similar situation of complete radio silence until her actual return. Ina’s was almost entirely positive while there was negatives for her return.

Personally her giving more communication on twitter wouldn’t effect me because I don’t use twitter. Her past few streams she’s been full of energy and enjoying herself. I’m a simple guy sure I would love her streaming as much as kiara but streaming at all is enough for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>47491512
That’s exactly it they get to stay hot anime girls while improving everything else with age. I do agree with the other guy though there is such a skill gap between Gura and all of en let alone comparing en to jp.

[Anonymous No.]

Ill be happy when this thread gets bump off

[Anonymous No.]

>>47493690
same

[Anonymous No.]

I'm incapable of being happy.

[Anonymous No.]

She could have solved the problem easily and had multiple ways to do it:

- Graduate
- Admit you are going to be a part time streamer who only streams 2-3 times a month at most.
- Tell people a REAL reason for your situation so they actually understand.
- Stop the constant ghosting followed by "I'm back and I l won't do it again" lies.

She literally took any common sense to dealing with it, tossed it aside, then is surprised people are upset with her / hate her now.

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>>47428667

Most likely never BECAUSE of the current EN girls. Cover isn't going to invest in more lazy leeches.

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>>47429497

Oh yeah, she's "burnt out" from streaming 3-4 times a month for the past year.

If she's TRULY that "burnt out" from that little work, she needs to quit because that amount of content is absolutely pathetic and it's clear she can't handle a public job like streamer.

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>>47493531
> To my knowledge she has not lied yet.
She said she would be back to regular streaming and then took a 2 week break again, sooo...

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>>47446644
A. gura has taken way more then 6 weeks off, B. the JP members are way more dedicated and stream way more often so they're actually capable of picking up the slack in her absense, and C. even if the JP girls were like the EN ones and didn't stream much, there's 3 times as many of them so the absense of 1 in a group of 30 isn't as noticeable (this problem could be alleviated if cover just fucking released en3 already)

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>>47494037
I don't think she needs to quit, that's a bit pragmatic. But she should at least announce on Twitter or on her channel using a community post that she won't stream often anymore. That way she's 100% transparent with her fans and prevents people from getting frustrated with her inconsistency.

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>>47493825
>>47494037
Graduate as penance you don’t have the right to be here says these 2 anons. One quick correction she never said it wouldn’t happen again and last year she streamed 135 times not counting members which slowly inclined further into the year. Someone put a list of her projects twice. Other professional YouTubers actually stream less than she does considerably at that and get burn out. Ame went through burn out last year and ina went through art block or burn out don’t remember which going into hololive.

>>47494296
I would take it as she will begin streaming again similar as the jump from September to October. But was that the exact that exact words?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47496019
> but was that the exact that exact words?
watch streams, it was basically her promising regular streams and saying that her "issues" were over for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47493051
>I did
The only NRT that actually happens in Rent A Girlfriend is in the MCs fucking head so false equivalency so yes, take your fucking meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47495251
I brought up en management being awful in not debuting en3. Yes they are more dedicated but you make it seem like matsuri robocco and choco were pushing pekora numbers when she left. Kanata was also gone at the time marine and suisei don’t stream much. You know what did happen though Miko stepped up and Aqua returned, I believe this is also around when ayame was there for a bit of consistency. Instead when she left all of en numbers cratered except fauna who had a slight incline. If you base it on the actual statement of her break it was 7 weeks from a return. Whenever a jp is gone you get varying levels of information depending on how comfortable they are. Literally pekora’s was she’s alive i saw her at the studio and laughed at her since she couldn’t speak. En could bring up gura being alive or she sent a funny meme and the gura doesn’t allow it excuse has now been debunked. In japan kiara couldn’t shut up about gura ina brought her up jps brought her up. Marine and okayu talked about their discord talks last year as well. They actively choose to ignore each other while jp loves being able to talk about the other girls whether it’s their first or hundredth time speaking to them

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>>47496770
Regular streams and back to regular streaming are 2 different things I remember the former which is why she hasn’t lied