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>Male collabs will kill your channel
So that was a fucking lie.

>> No.47068893

>>47068869
>Bu..BUT THEY DON'T HAVE 20-50k+ CCV, ITS DEAD ANON, DEAD!

>> No.47068953

>>47068869
Didn't we just have this thread >>47011000

>> No.47068959

Holy shit they still can’t break 20k with 4 of them or more

>> No.47068970

Unicorns will peddle that rrat even though there is literally 0 (zero) factual basis for it.

>> No.47068998

>>47068869
How many times are you going to make this thread? We are all aware from the meltdown /#/ had last week, we don't need you fuckers to repeat it ad nauseam for the next month.

>> No.47069013

>>47068869
based, sisters we so fucking won.

>> No.47069034

>>47068869
>>47068893
>>47068970
Sisters, are you also excited for Hex’s wrist slitting asmr tonight? I’m creaming just from the thought of it!!!

>> No.47069054

>>47068869
is this supposed to be impressive

>> No.47069063

Without Gura Hololive En is absolutely finished.

>> No.47069085

So people show up just because it’s a male/female collab just to own the unicorns, but most of them will never watch Magni/Vesper because their solo streams only get around 1.5k to 2.5k average depending on what they’re doing.

>> No.47069086

>>47069034
Name one channel that died because of homo collabs, go ahead and take your time xister :-)

>> No.47069170

>massive hologirls collab gives kiara views
>massive holocuck collab gives mori/kronii views
Yeah but ask yourself for someone like Fauna with 11k viewers solo or Gura with 21k viewers solo- what do they specifically have to gain from chasing that homo dick when their audience would hate it?

Anyway these numbers are 'pathetic', everything about hololive is taking that 2020 boom and squandering it until there's nothing left, like america in general has done with all the money it printed and now not only is the money inflated (and worth less) but america is also in debt, penniless and broke 3 years later. Joke country and joke people, can't budget to save their lives.

>> No.47069188

>>47069086
Matsuri, she owned those unicorn incels so hard she gets 1.5k CCV per stream now! Mori gets mogged by even IDs!!

>> No.47069205

>>47069086
That's easy, um... uh...
Fuck you, cope sister.

>> No.47069237

Flooding the catalog are we OP?
>>47065028
>>47055315
>>47068650
>>47065028

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>>47069034
You sure do think about him a lot anon. Seem kinda fixated...

>> No.47069282

>>47069063
The fact that Gura can just dig a cave in minecraft and still have a higher peak and average than a collab with 7/10 members participating in kinda sad.

>> No.47069331 [DELETED] 

>>47068953
Ignore nijinigger bait threads. They are deflecting from "Buy lingerie with me" Pomu flirting with Luca

>> No.47069352

>>47068869
>trading holofan regulars with tourists who show up for cross collabs but mysteriously disappear for solo streams
ogey...well it's your channel after all...

>> No.47069355

>>47069276
What’s the image even supposed to mean? I just know that unicorn/CGDCT/GFEhaters here will seethe at unicorns and tell them to improve themselves while shitting their pants whenever a female calls into their oshi’s rape asmr

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>>47069034
Why are you so fixated on him anon. You can't help but think about him all day long...

>> No.47069416

>>47069276
Well, that confirms the person who made this thread is also the person spamming the catalog about the HoloJP/NijiJP collabs
>>47069355
He fucked up and posted in the wrong thread

>> No.47069474

>>47069276
>>47069385
Lmao you aren't hiding your fuckup

>> No.47069576

>>47069474
saved image from when I posted it /here/ >>47055740
I didn't make the thread, I just think the obsession is fucking embarrassing

>> No.47069634

>>47068998
>shit up the board for years
>gets shit on
Idk sounds pretty fair to me

>> No.47069648

>>47069576
Your hypocrisy is even more embarrassing. Go finger yourself to some more Vox asmrs, you parasocial fuck.

>> No.47069670

>>47068869
Whatever you do, don’t compare merch sales OP

>> No.47069680

>>47069648
Thank you for demonstrating my point

>> No.47069695

>>47069634
/#/ have been a blight on /vt/ forever, yes. Total Numberfag Death, when?

>> No.47069711

>>47068869
Yeah no shit look at Suisei and Towa they're both doing just fine. Anyone who claims that "unicorns" control the industry are lying through their teeth since Hololive never put them first anyways.

>> No.47069716
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47069716

Watching them play UNO and scream at each other due to RNG hell is a significantly more enjoyable experience than shitty VR tech issues #87. You know why I'm not surprised it performed like it did? Because I can't be the only one who's no longer interested in watching shitty, jank ass chibi models slide across the screen after having a 30 minute delay while they do cutesy boring shit for the 10,000th time.

Watch what you want, who gives a fuck, but don't act surprised when some things are more popular than what /vt/ parrots all fucking day.

>> No.47069735

>>47068970
Yeah nothing except the numbers and charts which consistently say that the girls who collab with men have lower viewership

>> No.47069740

>>47069680
You’re welcome sister

>> No.47069747

>>47069352
nice lie. Also people have lives and can't watch streams daily like you losers

>> No.47069756

>>47068970
Yeah it really angers me. Especially when Suisei is literally one of the most popular Holos despite her multiple interactions with both male VTubers and non-VTubers. They don't know what they're talking about.

>> No.47069794

>>47069735
"the numbers and charts"
where?

>> No.47069795

>>47069086
Mori, most of her streams get like 3-5k ccv now a days and she used to he the second most popular behind gura, now at best she’s middle of the road

>> No.47069804

>>47068998
It needs to unironically be made enough until these "unicorns" and other larpers find another group of Chuubas to shit on.

>> No.47069810

>>47069716
Drama is fun tho

>> No.47069835

>>47069756
>>47069711
>implying suisei is popular for her streams and not for her singing or as if towa isn’t the runt of her gen
So true sister!!!!!

>> No.47069844

>>47069237
NTA but they raise a point since even as they did happen no imminent recline happened. Not like unicorns watch streams anyways.

>> No.47069889

>>47069747
Holy cope there are charts and viewership data posted here every month at the end of the month like clockwork, and it’s been consistently placing mori, kronii, ame and bae at the bottom of the list every time for the past 5 months

>> No.47069899

>>47069835
Didn't you dogfuckers say Suisei was a mid tier singer though? And Towa's CCV is still top half so you it's not like your incessant shitting has really done anything 3 years later.

>> No.47069927 [DELETED] 

>>47069844
Homobegging troons don’t watch streams either. Go back to your tranny subreddit, faggot.

>> No.47069948

>>47069889
Bae's inclining steadily despite all of those collabs.
What now?

>> No.47069966

>Numbers don't matter!
>Unless the homos are winning from all the unfair support they got, then we gotta shit on everyone else!

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>>47069889
But it's Gura that's at the bottom of the list

>> No.47069982

>>47069927
Nobody watches this crap, really.

>> No.47069992

>>47069927
Never insinuated I was, tard. They're the exact same person as a /vt/ unicorn. Consistently obsessed with Holostars and other males, never give any attention to streams without them. Are constantly waiting for a coed stream to happen and therefore completely unable to enjoy this hobby for what it is.

>> No.47070004

>>47069794
Holy newfag, there’s a fucking thread made at the end of every month listing all the viewership rankings from hololive and other corpos and ranking them… mori, bae, kronii and ame have been at the lowest EN girls on the list for the past 5 months aside from kiara who is a perpetual runt

>> No.47070006

>>47069899
Awwww, is the sister suffering too much blood loss after cutting her wrist too much? Maybe Hex using his dildo on you would make it feel better.

>> No.47070034

>>47068869
When are the girls going to realize no one likes the VR shit anymore. You don't see JPs doing this. How hard is it to just copy the jp group content?

>> No.47070037

>>47069992
Drama is the fun part.

>> No.47070043

>>47069982
Even if it were just me watching streams I wouldn't stop. Kill yourself, unifaggot. Go watch your Idol streams.

>> No.47070071 [DELETED] 

>>47069977
Once again holy fucking cope, half of the homo collabers didn’t even make it on the list cause they’re too far down… and she still does better then half of them by streaming twice a month

>> No.47070080

>>47070043
Nobody watches streams. We're in for drama.

>> No.47070096

>>47070006
Please get a better argument. I don't even know who Hex is outside the dildo yab. I'm just laughing at how Greennigger has buckbroken you into hating every Holo except Fauna.

>> No.47070118

>/vt/ is wrong again

>> No.47070119

>>47070071
anon... this is the second half of the list...

>> No.47070130

>>47069835
Towa gets the highest numbers of her gen during her events and performs consistently better than Luna but go off queen

>> No.47070131

>>47070080
Yes, we've already established that. Don't you have a Yuko stream to watch?

>> No.47070189

>>47070096
My oshi is Kanata who has already stated that she will never collab with males and that if management ever forces her to, that she will graduate. And no, that sponsored minecraft stream where she ignored the existence of anyone who was on the other team doesn’t count.

>> No.47070191

>>47070130
Kanata would be slightly higher and debatably Watame as well, but that's besides the point. Greennigger's 3 years of seething at Towa's existence is the funny part.

>> No.47070209

>>47068869
>using kiara as an example

>> No.47070253

>>47070189
OK? You do realize though that some "unicorns" are gonna disown you and call you a cuck because of this?

>> No.47070280

>>47069695
When we get jannies that aren't from SEA

>> No.47070381

>>47069716
Nah I usually hate VR shit but that Easter collab was actually fun. Don't fall for the numberretard argument of bigger number = more entertaining because the April Fool's collab was awful and got better numbers than the Easter one

>> No.47070429

Unicornbros are not organized, they just watch their oshi even if she betrays them. Maybe they delay EN 3 so much because it would actually give them a chance to switch oshis.

>> No.47070444

>>47070253
Only antis and falseflagging homobeggars got triggered by the event.

>> No.47070497

>>47069927
OP disproves you. Cope harder

>> No.47070515

>>47070497
YWNBAW

>> No.47070525

>>47068869
Not a lie, all those mysterious 20k people never came back. The channels have since died as a result.

>> No.47070531

>>47070444
That's more than enough for 2 whole weeks (and counting) of catalog spam because of this. I don't trust unicorns at all. They will always be the same as antis to me until an actual unicorn disavows these people

>> No.47070627

>>47070531
There are no actual unicorns which is why you're never going to find what you want by your stupid standards
The one exception might be the retard in this thread who keeps seething and replying to everyone

>> No.47070665

>>47068869
I don't know, out of the worst performing channels in holoen only Kiara doesn't do homo collabs. Mori used to be one of the most viewed, now she gets the third worst amount of live viewers ahead of Bae and Kiara. Ame's 10k karaokes have turned to 6k. Kronii who used to easily be the most watched council member gets regularly beat by Fauna nowadays. Bae continues to be the runt of council

>> No.47070670

>>47070497
He means they don’t watch any streams besides homo collabs, otherwise tempus would be doing significantly better and kronii/mori would still be the second/third most popular girls in holoEN

>> No.47070685 [DELETED] 

>>47070515
Unigger seethe

>> No.47070707

>>47070665
>Bae continues to be the runt of council
Fastest incliner right now.

>> No.47070757

>>47070707
Still watched the least from council

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>>47068869
Now look at the solo streams, which is the core of a streamer
Wait...
>Even not counting Gura who has been MIA, top HoloEN members - number-wise - are girls who didn't collab with males
>The homos' numbers have been going *down*, with the one doing the best being Bettel who hasn't collabed with girls yet
Was that just a coincidence, anons?

>> No.47070774

>>47070757
That's IRyS

>> No.47070777

>>47070707
I don't care about this bait thread but fastest incliner by what metric?

>> No.47070797

>>47070531
This really isn’t that hard… we have disavowed them, but we still shitpost about about them and anti them to dissuade other girls from making the same mistakes they have. It’s not about getting the girls who have done homocollabs to stop, it’s about sending a message to the one’s who haven’t done it so we can keep it that way

>> No.47070848

>>47070685
Woah, sister! You should kneel to Saint Floyd for using that offensive and discriminatory word. Isn’t that what you homobeggars usually do?

>> No.47070849

>>47070531
I love Kanatan for being so real, tenshi love!

>> No.47070862

>>47070774
>>47070767

>> No.47070876

>>47070774
She’s not an actual Council member (and that) a good thing) so it is technically Sana.

>> No.47070884

>>47070797
It doesn't work though considering those who have collabed with males past and present haven't had any notable viewership losses.

>> No.47070911

>>47070767
>Was that just a coincidence, anons?
Unironically? Yes. The girls at the top just appeal to more people as entertainers and did even before Tempus existed. Literally a skill issue.
Same with Bettel just being a better entertainer than the rest of his gen.

>> No.47070918

>>47070774
Doesn't look that way >>47070767

>> No.47070965

>>47070797
This just confirms my suspicion that ex-Kronies are the people making all these seethe threads
Fuck off Gabe

>> No.47070969

>>47069844
The only point being made by that image is that less people tune into heavily scuffed streams.

>> No.47071036

>>47070911
Kronii who was the top of Council and easily #2 or #3 of HoloEN, is now 2nd lowest member of Council (only because Bae exists). Was that a coincidence, too? Why do all these coincidences keep happening on girls who interacted with males?

>> No.47071128

>>47070884
I have a faint memory of Mori having consistently among the strongest solo streams in holoen, but now she's constantly at the bottom. Odd

>> No.47071208

>>47070767
The absolute fucking state of Phaseroaches.

>> No.47071211

>>47070884
>>47070665

>> No.47071213

>>47071036
Kronii dropped from #2 of HoloEN long before her homo collabs, mostly due to her lackluster content. Since you're pulling charts from /#/ surely you're familiar with the fact that her usual numbers already dropped below Mumei last summer, before Tempus was a thing.
The one thing that Kronii still retains is her higher ceiling and tourist draw

>> No.47071244

>>47071128
Males didn’t kill Mori’s viewerships, it was Mori that fucked it with all the dumb shit she said and did.

>> No.47071246

>>47069977
I hate people who are disingenuous with data

>> No.47071268

>>47068998
until /#/ is eradicated and numberposting is banned from the entire board. No peace. No compromise.

>> No.47071312

>>47071128
>>47071211
Talking about JP, namely Suisei and Towa. They both seem to have strong and steady viewership even after all those male collabs.

>> No.47071432

>>47071244
Weird that all the homo collabing girls have lost a good chunk of their viewership except Bae who has always been the runt of her gen.

>> No.47071458

>>47070774
For real, IRyS gets abysmal performance is ccv, vod views, and especially her music. Council have dragged her down if anything.

>> No.47071505

>>47068869
You missed the part where Hololive EN collabs used to get at least 40k viewers. So no, not a lie.

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>>47071213
Kronii was still going strong before she started collabing with males. See Kronii old chart (there unfortunately isn't an updated one, but her numbers have been trending downwards ever since anyway) back in last Nov.
You can see how her numbers stabilized and even went up for a while between March and Aug 2022, yet started dropping after the first interaction / mention of male. She never truly recovered after that

>> No.47071592

>>47071246
yeah like most of the people in this thread

>> No.47071606

>>47071458
Very subtle, sister

>> No.47071614

>>47068869
The homo collabs have also hurt the collabs with just the girls because they include those homo collabing girls

>> No.47071672

>>47071458
>t. Kyo
Enna's CCV are in the literal toilet in comparison

>> No.47071731

>>47068869
Niji fans show up for male collabs then leave (they don't watch either holoEN or Tempus), then they don't even watch nijis after leaving.

>> No.47072157

>>47071312
Because they aren't pandering to unicorns from the start you dumb bitch.

>> No.47072219

>>47070848
Sis, there's no reason to froth at the mouth. You guys wanted to talk shit, now you're getting hit

>> No.47072520

Just give Tempus a chance already

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>>47072520

>> No.47072719

Pomu and Luca offpalko deflection thread.

>> No.47072726

>>47072157
Do any Holos pander to unicorns? Serious question. This fandom is way too big for obvious overlaps. Anyone can be a fan of any Holo if they want to. You just haven't left /vt/ because I'm sure the "unicorn-friendly" JPs don't know this places exists.

>> No.47072767

>>47072726
Rushia did, look where that got her.

>> No.47072825

>>47068998
If /#/ faggots keep thinking of noombers everytime a male collab happens, they deserved to be seethed about it.

>> No.47072837

>>47072767
Her own leaking getting her fired? As far as I'm concerned no one actually abandoned her a year ago. Not even her gachi abandoned her.

>> No.47072877

Mori fans are not hololive fans.

>> No.47072912

Watched them and they were pretty fun actually, but I'm still not going to watch any EN streams. Everyone, even the people who are mad, can see how pathetic and stupid these incels are.

>> No.47072940

>>47072726
>You just haven't left /vt/ because I'm sure the "unicorn-friendly" JPs don't know this places exists.
?

>> No.47072966

>>47072726
There was a bunch of Holos who used to collab with Niji males, then coincidentally stopped when their channels started taking off

>> No.47073166

>>47072940
>>47072966
As far as I'm concerned unicorns still keep bringing up their past male collab history to dissuade current fans of said Holos to keep watching them. So yes, I fucking hate those parasites.

>> No.47073200

>>47072520
I did before the collabs. A shame, really.

>> No.47073237

>>47068869
>botted views

>> No.47073314

>>47073166
>keep watching them
Stop watching them*

>> No.47073373

>>47073166
>unicorns still keep bringing up their past male collab history
???
The ones who keep bringing it up are homobeggars and anti-unicorns though.
>>47068650
>>47065028

>> No.47073463

>>47068869
Where are those 18k people when each of them stream individually? The fact is cross gender collabs will always bring in people who desire shipping, and do not watch solo streams.

>> No.47073486 [DELETED] 

>>47069086
Mori is literally having to resort to clickbait to keep her channel alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj9zlnT56z8
Reminder to report this by the way

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47073677

unicornfags are the most cope and seethe piece of shit part of /vt/
while I can side with them for shitting on nijien, can't forget how cringey their reeing is.
I can't believe they thought they could convince people that all the kanata hate was a false flag lmao

>> No.47073754

>>47073677
YWNBAW and go jerk off to hex faggot

>> No.47073791

>>47073463
Where are those 15k people when each of them stream individually?

>> No.47073861

>>47073166
No unicorn gives a fuck about Miko or Subaru collabing with males years ago
You are delusional

>> No.47073910

>>47069188
That menhera bitch has self-imploded because of everything BUT male collabs.

If I had it with me I'd dump the copypasta right this instant, but the only this that's relevant to this thread is that Festival collabing with Rikka, Astel, winning son, etc. was just secondary to every dumb move she pulled alongside it.

>> No.47073916

>>47068869
>holoen big collab
not even 20k
>holojp collab
60k+

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>>47073910
>coping

>> No.47074053

>>47073916
>miko/pekora solo stream
20-30k every single time

EN are failures

>> No.47074082

fun fact about numbers.
kiara is the only member of myth to never have a 100k stream

>> No.47074093

>>47069170
HoloEU never

>> No.47074130

>>47074053
Failures that makes more money than us. Damn, I wish I was a failure like them.

>> No.47074174

>>47074082
None of them have had even close to 100k for a very long time now, retard

>> No.47074195

>>47073791
Are you trying to imply that the girls in the Easter collab do not get 15 CCV collectively? Are you retarded?

>> No.47074226

>>47074174
ok, how does that change what i said

>> No.47074256

>>47074130
>muh money
Who let you out of the oven, schlomo?

>> No.47074308

>>47074130
>us
Who is "us"? You and your discord server?
>I wish I was a failure like them.
Don't worry you are already much bigger failure than any of them will ever be.

>> No.47074315

>>47068869
Why are EN numbers so shit? In JP these would be bad numbers for solo streams, let alone big collabs.

>> No.47074332

>>47074195
>Can't read
If you're going to ask if someone's retarded, you should probably learn the difference between individually and collectively.

>> No.47074340

>>47073373
Are you sure about that?
>>47073861
/hlg/ does

>> No.47074434

>>47074340
Are you sure about that? It's always you and your anti-unicorns friend who keep bringing up the past. Even doxx material.

>> No.47074484

>>47074340
/hlg/ is a doxfag cesspool of garbage which manages to rival even the /vt/ catalog in how awful it is, not sure why you're using it as a benchmark of anything

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>Muh Genderwar bait shit

It has nothing to do with gender. It's
>2 groups of 4 with Good chemistry
vs
>1 Big group with all of them having average chemistry at best and in that big group the ones with good chemistry split up together for some time before being pulled back to the collab, ex being Kronii Mumei, and Kronii Fauna to name two

Gender literally does not matter. If a group of 4 girls had amazing chemistry they'd have the same or more. Also, like it or not, Kronii and Mori get big numbers on their own event streams, and magni and vesper do as well, so them combined = number big. It just so happens their chemistry is good too

>> No.47074521

>>47074315
Because the only 2 good members who aren't openly shitting on their fans gave up and stopped streaming.

>> No.47074588

>>47074315
Genuine answer: our side of the world is full of zoomers who hop from trend to trend. Memeflu happened and got everyone stuck in their houses for a while, then they found out about funny anime streamers and that hobby blew up at the perfect time for Myth, but then everyone moved to another trend because why the fuck not and abandoned vtubers. Meanwhile Japan is as loyal to the hobby as ever, if not even more so.

>> No.47074593

>>47074484
/hlg/ is much better than this awful board full of troons and grifter whores

>> No.47074652

>>47074434
Why don't you check /hlg/ and see how it is. As far as I'm concerned they're the most "respected" Holofans on this shit site so who am I kidding?
>>47074484
Because I want a place to discuss HoloJP? Where else would I go?

>> No.47074724

>>47074593
I'd rather clueless but innocuous newfags over tryhard unifaggots desu

>> No.47074756

>>47074093
Undoubtedly, since holoamerica squandered literally 100k ccv on outfit reveals and can no longer grow their audience.

>> No.47074769

>>47074724
Then you should fuck off to reddit, tranny

>> No.47074809

>>47074769
Sorry I didn't make the 500th Miko and Subaru collabed with males years ago thread, unifaggot

>> No.47074848

>>47074593
>/hlg/ is much better than
>troons
>>47074769
>tranny
You could not make it more painfully obvious you're a newfag tourist lmao

>> No.47074859

>>47074593
>>47074652
>/hlg/
Global? Better than anything else on this board?

>> No.47074873

>>47074593
>Greennigger Discord's hideout and Marineschizo's den
>half of the posters are unironic Nijinigs
/vt/ clears /hlg/ despite how bad the catalogfags are.

>> No.47074951
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Yass sisters

>> No.47074992

>>47074951
FANS DEMAND

>> No.47075085

>>47074951
Didn’t people saviorfag the clown because of his fuckups with streams after his debut?

>> No.47075105

>>47074332
Look retard I'll make it real simple for you. Those 15k in the collab are collectively from the girls who participated. 1k from Kiara 3k from Fauna 2k from Mumei and so on. If you combine their CCV you will get way more than 15k. It's organic. The same doesn't happen with the participants of the other two collabs. Their collective CCV won't make it even past 15k. It makes sense to ask where those additional viewers dissappear to the moment collab ends.
That's why you are a retard asking retarded questions.

>> No.47075233

>>47074951
>>47074992
I think the funniest part about "popular demand" schizos is that you have cherrypick the out streams into order to make them look worse than they actually are, which at the point you could do it literally every branch in holo lol
Like are you seriously numberfaging an SC reading stream? lmao

>> No.47075243

>>47074516
>Kronii and Mori get big numbers on their own event streams
Kronii - maybe, Mori - no she doesn't.
>magni and vesper do as well
Oh I didn't realize that you were shitposting. Here's a free (You).

>> No.47075292

>>47069756
If this angers you you better sick help now before you go all loony troon and shoot up a school or something.

>> No.47075309

>>47075243
>Kronii - maybe, Mori - no she doesn't.
Yes they do?

>> No.47075319

>>47075105
Look retard I'll make it real simple for you. Individual=by one's self. Collective=as a group. You just described a collective. The question was about an individual.

>> No.47075367

>>47075309
you dont mori get back under the horse

>> No.47075399

>>47075319
You are a retard. I got it. No need to post confirmations again and again.

>> No.47075442

>>47075309
Do you really want me to go screenshot Mori's CCV and embarass you in front of the whole thread?

>> No.47075500

>>47075399
>no u

>> No.47075513

>Wah why you make anti unicorn thread
>>47062868
Yeah seems fair keep making these >>47069237

>> No.47075617

>>47075085
No. The guy is just decent at pandering to his fans. Probably come *a bit* close to parasocial territory.
I meant, this is what he said in the pre-chat of one of his random stream
https://hololyzer.net/holostars/realtime/supana/9lleTUy9-M8.html
There isn't anything terrible per se, but have you seen any Holo / Homo chatting that much in their pre-stream chat and talked to multiple specific viewers that way?

>> No.47075620

>>47075367
>le ebin horse
Oh ok you're retarded then, my bad
Lets pretend that 30k for event isn't big
>>47075442
>Do you really want me to go screenshot Mori's CCV
That depends Are you one of those retards who going to cherrypick her last outfit reveal without any context?

>> No.47075625

>>47075513
Truth hurts so you make up shit to smear those who are successful?
Sorry but I don't feel any sympathy for you or your faggot failures.

>> No.47075751

>>47068869
someone post kronii's birthday merch sales

>> No.47075794

>>47075620
only retard here is you
ill enjoy when you kill yourself after this

>> No.47075862

>>47073486
>Reminder to report this by the way
Not your personal army, newfag.

>> No.47075889

>>47075620
anon don't try arguing with them, they don't care. They just want to try to make you angry.

>> No.47075904

>>47075625
Ironic you say that, yeah the truth does hurt that your narrative of these "faggots" and their "failure" isn't what you want it to be considering the Uno collab vs Kiara's Easter

>> No.47075930

>>47075620
Feel free to give the context on why she got less than 25k on her bd stream and less than 20k on her outfit reveal.
That's pathetic for Myth.

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>>47074809
>>47074873
>the ones that shit it up are /vt/rannies
>still say this place is better

>> No.47075992 [DELETED] 

>>47075751
Numberniggers can't even get the geekjack numbers. It's useless

>> No.47076053

>>47075930
25k is better than most EN birthdays

>> No.47076071

>>47075904
I am glad that beating Kiara's numbers brings you so much joy. Even bread crumbs are good enough for someone as starved as you are I suppose.

>> No.47076117

>>47075930
Because she has lost many people over the years but it has nothing to do with homos as she was always THE homo collab kinda holo since the begin.

>> No.47076200

>>47076071
Not really but at least I'm staying over hydrated on your tears.

>> No.47076239

>>47075751
it's at >>46596745

we don't have geekjack numbers, but they wouldn't be enough to boost her by much

>> No.47076242

>>47075930
her birthday was a 3D karaoke at 4am PDT not a normal 3D live and people thought the outfit was april fools joke? Seems like pretty simple explanations to me.

>> No.47076310

>>47076239
Seems like the lack of limited merch is the main issue.

>> No.47076341

>>47076239
Anyone sensible will use geekjack over the hololive shop to save >$100 on shipping

>> No.47076442

>>47076341
They don't do limited merch on geekjack either right? There is basically no reason not use geekjack for Kronii if you aren't japanese.

>> No.47076455

ITT: homobeggars seething and coping

>> No.47076597

>>47075930
>Feel free to give the context
It's literally so easy man
>she got less than 25k on bd stream
It was a 3D karaoke at a 3rd party studio rather the more high production 3D Live at Cover's studio like most talents (including herself last year) normally do, on top of being at garbage timeslot for NA audience that makes up HoloEN's viewerbase
>less than 20k on her outfit reveal
It was a 3-way combo of her not building up any hype for it, and not purposely stalling the reveal by doing predictions (thus showing off the actually outfit too quickly for viewers to funnel in) and that fact happen on April fools 1 day so 50% of the fanbase unironically just assumed it was gonna be a joke. For refence her last outfit reveal in which did stall topped out around 31k~
I swear the average numbernigger on this board couldn't pass a high school level statics class because they refuse to believe numbers don't exist in a vacuum

>> No.47076607

>>47076053
Nigga she has the least bd stream CCV in myth.
Also you still haven't revealed those mysterious circumstances that killed her views. Don't keep me waiting.

>> No.47076631

>>47076310
Even if she S/O limited merch like other girls, she'd still be ~20-30% behind Bae, IRyS and Fauna.
>>47076341
And other girls' fans would use geekjack to save shipping cost, too. While Kronii's merch's shipping fee is indeed highest, hers were hardly the only high one. Why should >we believe that Kronii's geekjack sales would have been enough to get her up to par with others?

>> No.47076751

>>47076597
See
>>47076455

>> No.47076801

>>47076597
>studio
What does it matter? This is some advanced cope.
>April fools 1
More cope.
>last outfit reveal
And when was it?

>> No.47076805

ITT: Unicucks seething and coping

>> No.47076854

>>47076200
You must be dying from thirst. No wonder you are a homobeggar.

>> No.47076865

>>47076607
>Nigga she has the least bd stream CCV in myth.
No she didn't???
Only one Myth member has a had a birthday in 2023 so far and that's Amelia
>https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Vw8dZIA2Nfc
And Mori beat that by a cool 1k, if anything this just shows 20k -30k~ will wind up been the par for this year

>> No.47076948

>>47076242
>people thought the outfit was april fools joke?
And that's why she got 11k less than on the previous outfit? Do you even believe it yourself?

>> No.47077007

>>47076607
doing it 4-7am for 80% of viewers will do it.

>> No.47077119

>>47076865
>Ame's max - 24748
>Mori's max - 24195
Are you trying to troll? You are pretty bad at it.

>> No.47077191

>>47077007
Is she doing every stream at a "bad time"? Because her CCV is bad at every stream.

>> No.47077245

>>47076805
See
>>47076455

>> No.47077274

>>47077191
Everyone's CCV is down. Lack of EN3 + pandemic over + dead fad.

>> No.47077279

>>47068869
I cant understand vt you guys can talk with girls why your oshi cant?

>> No.47077340

>>47077279
Unicorn sobers anons up that they have been spending money on whores.

>> No.47077361

>>47069747
lol mori is like 2-4k range, literally Kiara tier stream numbers most of the time now. kronii is also at like 1/2 what she used to get a year ago.

I really wonder who the fuck these mysterious people are who literally only show up to the collabs and yet the boys are 3views without them and the girls doing this also have had viewership tank harder than any other ENs. Actually the growth is steady or growing for ones like Fauna and Mumei while it's just not good news for the dicksuckers outside the collabs. Literally it makes no sense. Are they throngs of reddit faggots who literally think they are obligated to participate to make a self-fulfilling destiny of "see I'm supporting this co-ed collab here I'm doing something you incels"? Is showing up to the coed collabs to own le incels and ditching 100% of the streams outside that a kind of virtue signaling? Seems like it.

>> No.47077415

>210 post
>69 IPs
Unicorns DEFINITELY not seething

>> No.47077467

Mori must hate having to be nice to her viewers now lmao

>> No.47077471

>>47077415
Unicorn are eye openers.

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>>47076801
>"H-her event numbers are bad!"
>There's context for that
>"O-oh ye-yeah what's the context!?"
>Here it is
>"Co-cope cope cope!"
Why do all numberfags backpedal like this?
>>47076801
>What does it matter?
Yes retard production value matters
>More cope.
Yes retard a a significant chunk of the fanbase skipping what they presumed to be a joke stream will impact viewership
>And when was it?
Are you seriously too much of lazy ass bitch to scroll down her youtube page? I'm not spoon-feeding you

>> No.47077500

What a fun thread full of idiots. Keep going, it's giving me a good laugh especially the ones that let Mori live rent free in their head, absolutely hilarious. A whole thesis should be written analyzing this schizophrenic behavior that comes from a specific region of the world that has piss poor water that drives them crazy when they take a big sip of it. That would be a good read.

>> No.47077501

>>47077274
And here we go with this cope again. She has the second/third worst CCV in the whole HoloEN for the last 3 months at least. If everyone's CCV is down then how come she is doing worse than council who debuted after her and has less subs?

>> No.47077519

>>47076442
>Kronii sold no limited merch because she didn't sell limited merch
A stunning revelation

>> No.47077558

>>47077279
My oshi an talk with as many girls as she likes

>> No.47077562

>>47068869
where the hell are all those people during solo streams?

>> No.47077719

>>47077500
Grim

>> No.47077752

>>47077274
Except Fauna, uuuu....

>> No.47077761

>>47077191
About 70% of her streams, yes in fact. The last time she played a non-jrpg at NA primetime was planet coaster. RE4R a couple times, but age restriction obliterated any potential views for basically everyone who tried to play it.

>> No.47077784

>>47077191
>Is she doing every stream at a "bad time"?
I mean, yes? are you just arguing about her CCV without paying attention what her content or timeslots?
For the past 5 months she's been streaming JRPG at 4am-7am for 80% of her viewerbase, no shit her CCV took a hit lmao

>> No.47077796

>>47077501
That's only because she decided to play 13 parts of Persona 3 Portable

>> No.47077808

>>47077279
hololive did not get its popularity or reputation thanks to anything guys did, at all. all its viral magic was cute girls being cute. putting guys into the picture wrecks that whole setup just by their being there. they can sit in the corner and say nothing all stream and it's still worse that they're there.

all this pretending "it's only fair", "give the boys a chance" begging shit is just fucking disingenuous, practically amounting to fucking stolen valor, of the hololive name. these people literally are so fucking braindead they don't even fucking contemplate and realize "hmm that fubuki scatman/korone clip that got me into this years back was just me liking cute girls - these random guys have nothing to do with what I like about hololive" and somehow are now ardent homobeggars are absolute fucking stooges of the highest order. they've been basically cucked out of -their own fucking minds and opinions- in the name of trying to follow what the carefully-tended herd on reddit thinks. the herd where they will shoot the sheep what fall out of line and pretend they're good shepherds.

>> No.47077822

>>47077485
>backpedal
You don't know what that word means.
>production value
>joke stream
Nigga you do not believe that it was the production value or April's fool nonsense that cut more than a third of her CCV from the previous time. Don't even lie to me.
>lazy bitch
I don't give enough of a fuck to look up stream dates for a shitposting thread

>> No.47077839

>>47077719
>Grim
Nice cope buzzword anon.

>> No.47077856

>>47068869
Anon, Unicorns aren't watching Hololive anymore. When Hololive was at it's peak that's when Unicorns were watching. Now the only people that watch Holo content are cucks and homo lovers. I can't believe you're bragging about 18k LMAO. Hololive has fallen.

>> No.47077874

>>47077500
You can't read anyway

>> No.47077972

>>47077822
Cope harder.

>> No.47078020

>>47077562
Not interested, probably. You can watch a lot of those streams live any time if you feel like it, but it's not often there's an UNO collab where you know the people involved are 100% going to talk shit to each other in an almost unfiltered way. In the most basic way I can say it, more people were simply interested in watching an UNO collab.

>> No.47078063

>>47077761
>>47077784
>>47077796
Ok. Let's look forward to the next time she plays a non-jrpg game at a different time slot. And if she still gets shit numbers I will remind you of this.

>> No.47078064

>>47077874
And you live on a schizophrenic board that argues about throw away entertainment that means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

>> No.47078127

>>47078064
Take your meds then schizo

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>>47075233
So true sister. Homos are so strong, reality is fake news!

>> No.47078175

>>47077972
Cope with what? Her failing viewership? That's for Mori to do.

>> No.47078199

>>47077562
No bots for solo streams

>> No.47078356

>>47077415
I mean we are in the thread made by a seething homobeggar

>> No.47078625

>>47077822
>You don't know what that word means.
You asked for context and when presented with it, you then cried about how doesn't matter lol (because it doesn't fit your agenda lmao) textbook example of a backpaddle
>Nigga you do not believe that it was the production value or April's fool nonsense that cut more than a third of her CCV
Yes retard, half of that Bday stream was literally in fucking 15 FPS, and people skipping a what they thought was a joke stream when they otherwise would've shown up. Shit like that matters
>I don't give enough of a fuck
>for a shitposting thread
Ogey thank you for admitting your just shitposter, I accept your concession

>> No.47078773

>>47069844
> no imminent recline
Yes, what did you believe that it would cause instant loss of 50% CCV? that's not how world work ; but as you are probably implicitly mentioning hololive EN is loosing feet harder and harder, it was for a while and stars EN is NOT helping their case at all.
also
> not like unicorns watch stsreams anyways
If there is someone who will watch stream RELIGIOUSLY it's a unicorn, let's not be stupid for a second. and if someone will not watch any stream ever nor have ever watched any stream those are the homobeggar who will tangeantly make an exeption for those collab to "own the hater", process to not donate, not member, not do anything and go back to twitter and that's why solo CCV are shit, they don't even suscribe that why stars subscriber count is also shit.

>> No.47078959

>>47078625
>backpaddle
Backpaddle is what I do to your mom at night
>Shit like that matters
It does but not to that extent
>your just shitposter
And who do you think you are mr anon-posting-in-a-shitposting-thread? Everyone here is a shitposter.

>> No.47079253

>>47078356
>rubbing in victory
>seething

>> No.47079330

>>47079253
What'd you win?

>> No.47079504

>>47079253
NTA but if you use "victory" to describe turning a bountifull forest into a infertile vasteland while having wasted all the ressources you could have extracted i would concede you got a point.

>> No.47079547

>>47079504
>food analogy

>> No.47079599

>>47078020
That's really not a good thing for the Cover model. Being picky about content and all is great from the consumer point-of-view, but one thing holos have is that shilling all manner of swill from shitty gacha to cup noodles to gaming PCs is a pretty major source of income, to say nothing of stuff like overpriced acrylic stands or other merch. You only get to pull this off if you have a loyal fanbase who're there no matter what you do just because being you is more than enough. If it comes to a point that many people are instead like, "I 'love' you but if you're not doing something particularly special, I'm not even giving you an eyeball", you've clearly lost a lot of that X factor that was supposed to translate into income.

>> No.47079637

>>47069063
Incorrect. Without Gura, Hololive is enjoyable once again.

>> No.47079669

>>47074340
Well isn't you the anti-unicorn who brought that subject here?

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>>47070767
Project: Hope

>> No.47079715

Thing is homobeggars don't even watch solo streams. As much as this seems to like it's impressive, soon collabs like this will get boring af and ccv will be nothing like this. Idk, but to me, it only looks like a lose to Calli and Kronii since they never rally gained anything from it lol. They lose unicorns but never gained new viewers.

>> No.47079839

>>47079684
I swear this image only exist to try to bait people into shitting on Mumei, Fauna and Ina lol

>> No.47079940

>>47070774
The only people left watching IRyS are coomers waiting for the next double entendre that slips or back seaters that love attention because she actually gives it to them because she hates thinking for herself when she has to game.

>> No.47080058

>>47079330
Laughs. It's always fun to watch people who act high and mighty get btfo
>>47079504
>bountifull
>vasteland
>ressources
Maybe a school could be built for you after that forest is gone.

>> No.47080105

>>47079940
I would watch Irys if she would play something interesting to watch
She is too low energy for me to watch her zatsu/boring games

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>>47079940
Double the viewers Mori gets.

>> No.47080197

>>47079684
Project: Cringe

>> No.47080210

>>47080058
I laugh at homobeggars every day though.
Guess I am constantly winning. Never thought of it that way.

>> No.47080259

>>47074082
>ina

>> No.47080278

>>47080197
>Cringe
There is no Mori in that image. Check your eyes.

>> No.47080290

>>47078773
You keep getting debunked whenever Suisei streams and averages way higher CCV than Gura. I'm not going to explain anything further.

>> No.47080298

>>47068869
Yep. The absolute state of holobronies lately has been mind-boggling. Funny how many in the beginning though Kiara was the worst and now she's the "best" even though she is still incredibly mid and mediocre.

If you need coomer fanworks to shill your oshi, your oshi is probably garbage. It's the same reason why people still waste money on trash like Pokemon, Genshin, 2hu, most gachashit, etc. etc. Literally kept on life support because of fanmade porn and fanart.

>> No.47080364

>>47079940
So true sis

>> No.47080442

>>47080133
>2 Unarchive karaoke at prime time
>FOTM at prime time
I mean, yeah no shit lol

>> No.47080452

>>47080290
Additionally, Miko and Subaru have higher CCVs than Gura. Why are you still pretending as if male collabs have a devastating affect to CCV? It doesn't mean shit.

>> No.47080542

>>47080210
Yeah it is pretty funny seeing collabs with them beat all female collabs with twice the members

>> No.47080737

Unicucks are like nijifags, they keep coping about how their ideal form of vtubing is still the biggest market just like how nijifags coping about how Nijisanji is still bigger when Hololive overtake them

>> No.47080800

>>47080290
Suisei doesn't have any unicorns. On top of that all her collabs are very professional. Ever wonder why nobody ships her with any of her male stream partners?
For the same reason Pekora's unicorns don't give a fuck when she collabs with males and nobody ships her with any of her male collab partners.
>>47080452
Miko and Subaru don't collab with males
>b-b-buh what about 3 years ago
Nigga nobody cares. Unicorns don't care. Why do you care?

>> No.47080818

>>47075889
>>47075620
>responds to self on phone
fuckin pathetic stay mad and soon
dead

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>>47080133
What I find strange about IRyS is that both her and Mori are music channels with almost the same output but IRyS only gets a fraction of the views.

>> No.47080886

>>47080542
>collabs with them beat all female collabs
Wut? Most Holo collabs shit all over that uno collab. Take your meds homobeggar.

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>>47080818
?

>> No.47080961

>>47080886
not the EN ones kek

>> No.47080974

>>47080850
Mori debuted earlier in the glory days of HoloEn and has more successful songs
Here mystery solved

>> No.47080991

>>47080850
cover shills Mori's music 10x more than they do for IRyS

>> No.47081002

>>47080890
>illiterate too
Cuckbeat ladies and gents

>> No.47081038

>>47080886
>>47068869
Seems like you need glasses troonicorn

>> No.47081041

>>47080961
>moving the goalpost
Stop embarrassing yourself

>> No.47081122

>>47081038
Are you retarded? There are more than 3 collabs in hololive. Most of them get higher CCV than 20k.
You will never be a woman btw. Cope seethe dilate homobeggar.

>> No.47081148

>>47080058
Nha i'm fine councidering what you needed to point the ressources should have been alocated to your education instead. Like teaching you that you are loosing the debat if your only possibilities are to argue about the form for exemple. Now saddly since i mentioned you wasted the ressources you will be stuck being an idiot for the rest of your existence, but noneless no matter how much education you would receive i have the intuition it wouldn't change much saddly.

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>>47081002
>Could be that more than one person disagrees with me!?
>N-no! it must be some using a phone
Take your meds

>> No.47081215

>>47081038
>watch troon supporters
>call other people troons
Why are homobeggars like this?

>> No.47081293

>>47080737
You are delusional if you think that unicorns are the only ones who dislike mixed collabs

>> No.47081351

>>47081293
who else does?

>> No.47081399

>>47080850
Mori makes better music that covers a wider range of themes and styles. Mori's MVs have higher production value.
Mori actively shills her music on her streams. Mori shares covers of her music on social media.
Mori also has had a little bit of mainstream attention in Japan, with a bit of radio play and articles about her music in the Japanese versions of western sites like Rolling Stone and Billboard.

>> No.47081401

>>47070665
*conveniently ignores that HoloEN as a whole has declined CCVs because loss of interest in vtubers in the western sphere*

>> No.47081499

>>47068998
i wasn't anon, care to share the thread?

>> No.47081506

>>47081351
I am not a unicorn and yet still skip all mixed collabs
I am not interested in male vtubers
When I want to watch a guy I watch fleshtubers

>> No.47081519

>>47081293
>there are a lot of people out there aside from unicorns who dislike mixed collabs
>yet mixed collabs are overperforming compare to non-mixed
Who are you kidding?

>> No.47081581

>>47081122
You sure? Seems like the easter collab in OP peaked at 17k, unlike the uno collab peaking at 21k. And oh look! The Easter collab had 8 people, just like I said. Nice "no u" at the end btw

>> No.47081594

>>47081401
Yeah only some had worse decline than others.

>> No.47081637

>>47081519
Delusional. The uno thing was an outlier.

>> No.47081640

>>47080800
>Ever wonder why nobody ships her with any of her male stream partners?
Tb.h Nobody really ships any Holo with any of their male partners cause both parties always make it extremely clear that it makes them uncomfortable
So doing so make you either, a hard-headed motherfucker that doesn't like to listen or an obvious anti
Like for example, I've literally NEVER seen anyone push that "Vesperonii" shit that WASN'T an obvious shitposter

>> No.47081723

What kind of dude watches male vtubers? I'd just stick to regular streamers. Vtuber models enhance females and debuffs males.

>> No.47081728

>>47081401
Except Fauna, who is both a consistent streamer and openly an unicorn-friendly Holo who refused to even read Homos name in SC. I wonder why?

>> No.47081778

>>47081148
I don't speak pagpag, could you try typing in English? Thank you.
>>47081215
Do expect me not to call an apple what it is, too?

>> No.47081808

>>>>47081519
>>there are a lot of people out there aside from unicorns who dislike mixed collabs
Who are you quoting? I sure as hell didn't say that.
>>47081581
And micomet got more than 80k a few days back. Most collabs between holos get 30k - 60k.
I am glad you liked it trannoid.

>> No.47081952

>>47080850
>Hire only Japanese natives as songwriters, even for English songs (hey being fluent in two languages means you can be equally poetic in both, right)
>Make her first two albums nothing but character songs for a character that only exists on a character sheet in Omega's DND folder, not on her streams
>Give her zero heads-up on when her own tracks or albums are going to release, months after recording so she can't build anticipation
>Don't even give her the English name of her own song 12 hours before release so she has to make up one on her own (and then issue a correction) : https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1520055564335603713
>Release songs with nothing but their kanji as their name so EOPs barely know what they're looking for
>Stagger track and MV releases by months so all the hype is gone when the MV actually drops (Akatsuki to Hana's MV is delayed one year and counting now BTW)
>MVs are powerpoint slide shows

The only thing you can say for her team is that they can get qualified people who make good instrumentals

>> No.47082017

>>47081778
What would your fagoshi say about that foul language you use?
If I were a troon I would be in /mans/ and not here.

>> No.47082078

>>47079637
So why can't the rest pull numbers if it's so enjoyable?

>> No.47082146

>>47081153
so you just addmited you used a phone took that screen shot and cried as you got called like SEA tard you are
kill yourself
stream it

>> No.47082174

>>47070665
Fauna has consistent hours and was streaming at a time when everyone else had vanished for one reason or another. Consistent and regular streams is the key to her success, just as it was for Ina. Meanwhile, Ame is the anti-numberfag, and has been actively stunting her own growth since she dropped schedules and starting streams at a set time. Her numbers were sliding long before Tempus was even a twinkle in Yagoo's eye. It has nothing to do with male collabs, and everything to do with consistency and self-discipline.

>> No.47082197

>>47081723
Everyone hates Vesper because not even female and gay viewers want to hear some dude with an avatar lusting over shipping himself with other vtuber girls.

But on second thought, gays probably still think they can "fix" him while I just watch other streamers.

>> No.47082244

>mixed collabs have been overperforming and consistently outperform non-mixed
>unicucks = those are special case, outlier, result of some other reason
>HoloEN solo stream reclining, which could be due to a variety of reasons from season, timeslot, overlap, game choice, overall dwindling in vtubing interest etc
>unicucks = must be mixed collab fault

>> No.47082355

>>47079684
What are you even on about? Literally the only one that cares about what HoloEN was and noticeably does not like the forced homo changes is Gura. Everybody else will eventually do their homo debuts, starting with IRyS.

>> No.47082388

>>47082244
>consistently
You don't know what that word means

>> No.47082418

>>47082078
NAYRT, numbers are the exact opposite of enjoyment and you have actual aspergers if you think otherwise. The comfiest streams are the smaller ones where unfound gems actually talk to individuals in chat, but holokeks wouldn't understand this. They only know akasupa and paypigging.

>> No.47082450

>>47082355
Two more weeks (((sister)))

>> No.47082483

>>47081519
>mixed collabs are overperforming compare to non-mixed
A bit early to generalise like that. These mixed collabs are still rare, the party game "squad" is doing well I will grant you but they have done what 3 or 4 collabs total? Still novel enough to attract a lot of tourists(I really think these mixed collabs attract niji fans), some hololive fans who don't care about males along with the entire stars box. The novelty will wear off eventually just like it has done with the VRchat gimmick and you will start to see the true demand. I am sure people will still watch - but I would expect it to be more reflective of the members usual numbers eventually.
It is really obvious that tourists are showing up because these viewers really do blow in when Mori organises one of these party games then not show up to boost any of the participants future solo streams even a little bit.

>> No.47082500

>>47070381
You just said it yourself though.
His point was that so many people were tired of the VR streams and didn't even bother to tune in to the Easter stream.
The actual quality of the stream is not in question, the point is that the last few VR stream were a bit shit, so they diminished the interest in this one.

>> No.47082521

>>47082146
>so you just addmited you used a phone took
???
I literally made fun of you for baselessly assuming that me and that other guy were the same person lmao
Your schizophrenia has gotten so bad that your comprehension skills are deteriorating

>> No.47082545

>>47068869
Investors wants high memberships and 300k subs this year homo if not ACK!! Yagoo can't save you niggas now.

>> No.47082549

>>47082418
Which small corpofag are you? I guarantee your general is swamped with numberfagging if you're a Phase or an Idol cuck at this point. Every dumb retard here numberfags, and if your small corpo breaks out, you will, too.

>> No.47082583

>>47068893
Yes, all vtubers with under 20k ccv are runts

>> No.47082588

>>47068869
Mori's channel is pretty dead though? What even supposed to be the point of this bait?

>> No.47082626

>>47082549
>corpo
Lol, says the indie 2view enjoyer.
Lmao.

>> No.47082627

>>47075617
In Bettel's defense, Arenei is the oil baroness funding all of Holostars.

>> No.47082633

>>47081728
I counted 10+ greys spamming messages about getting in touch with Mori and Vesper when she just now mentioned doing councilRyS DND. It's an actual mission from these people to break this woman down

>> No.47082657

>>47081808
>B-b-but muh JP...!
That's nice, troon, how many viewers did OP get again?
>>47082017
>if

>> No.47082659

>>47082450
Yagoo shoved the homos into the New Years event, anon. You're just willfully blind if you can't see where Yagoo's grand vision is heading to, any one talent's objection be damned.

>> No.47082775

>>47082657
There is no need to be upset trannoid. Don't make retarded claims and you won't get BTFO.

>> No.47082904

As long as they are losing those who support them individually, that is all that matters.

>> No.47083069

>>47082174
>Fauna has consistent hours and was streaming at a time when everyone else had vanished for one reason or another. Consistent and regular streams is the key to her success, just as it was for Ina.
In general all of the ebin "unicorn"fags who numberfag Fauna all choose to willingly ignore how her incline coincides with Ina and Gura no longer being around to overlap anymore
She's basically had the 12pm-5pm timeslot all to herself for the past 5 months or so

>> No.47083075

>>47069795
Mori killed her channel for multiple reasons, I'm not sure if collabing with dudes would kill a holo channel but holos that push to collab with them are often menhera and have some self-sabotage tendencies Mori post lean arc doesn't seem to give as much of a fuck about hololive as she used to, Amelia Debuffson would go out of her way to overlap other members etc. even before the tempus collab marathon. Kronii have no idea why people watch her or hololive, would stream indie shit for hours without speaking much, that is if she feels like streaming at all so I guess for most if not all of them anime boys are just another way to filter their audience.

>> No.47083417

>>47083069
I don't know what Ina's schedule was, but Gura's was 3 hours away from Fauna's start time, anon. Any overlap is super minimal.

>> No.47083637

>>47082775
>deflects
>S-see! I w-won tranny!
You lost the moment you deflected away from EN's failure.

>> No.47083727

>>47083075
>Mori killed her channel for multiple reasons,
Her channel's not really dead she just choices to play debuff shit like JRPGs constantly, this applies to Kronii as well because she likes to play kusoge indies game nobody beside her have heard of before, she'll like play MC and jump right back up to being a 12k streamer, and as you pointed out Ame loves debuffing herself to the point were she's now started doing guerrilla streams on twitch
The 3 of them are really low-hanging fruit for "unicorn"fags (read: shitposters who don't even care about streams in the first place) to shit on because you can point to their low CCVs and go "male collabs did this" so long as your willing to ignore how content choice and timeslots choices have done much better at "killing" their channels than any male collab could

>> No.47083869

>>47070965
Are you surprised that people are still mad about Kronii up to this day?

>> No.47083871

>>47069034
Stars fans dont really like nijimales and especially dont like hex so your rp sucks anon

>> No.47083880

>>47080800
I already told you /hlg/ has still yet to forgive any of the 4 aforementioned for male interactions so please stop downplaying the existence of unicorns.

>> No.47084217

>>47083880
I don't give a fuck about /hlg/
What do they have to do with /vt/?
They are not unicorns they are just unironic schizos
>>47083637
>deflects
You don't know what that word means
The claim was "mixed collabs beat all holo only collabs" which is obviously false
Don't make retarded claims and you won't get BTFO

>> No.47084306

>>47083869
It's been months, you'd think people would have moved on by now. She's pretty easy to ignore.
I do know that Kronii had the biggest unicorn audience in Council at the start. So her audience never got filtered of psychos like the rest of Council's did, which is probably why her ex-fans are that much louder.

>> No.47084318

>>47084217
>mixed collabs beat ALL holo only collabs
Show me where I said "all." If you can't, you're retarded.

>> No.47084510
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47084510

>>47083727
>content choice and timeslots choices
People love to fucking ignore this, often pretending like it isn't the most critically important part about actually amassing a viewerbase.

No, it's not about who you collab with or what stupid bullshit you said at one point. I'd watch someone like Kronii regularly if she bothered to play games that weren't a bunch of no name who gives a fuck random indie games nobody's ever heard of in their lives. Even Watson, in her perpetual journey to be different from every human being on this planet (because she's so fucking unique and quirky), played Fallout NV and Yoshi's Island which are both good games people want to watch.

It doesn't always have to be Minecraft, but nobody should expect the average person to give a FUUUUUUUUUCK about JRPGs and weirdo hipster games.

>> No.47084569

>>47084318
>>47080542
>collabs with them beat all female collabs
Be more careful in the future (((sister)))

>> No.47084580

>>47083727
Thing is the "low hanging fruit" happen to be the male-collab squad, add BAE who was always a shitter (also homostar fangirl mentioning Roberu on debut) and you have all of them, like I've said it's not clear what's the cause and effect but homo-collabs tend to be just another way of self-sabotaging your channel/career since ALL OF THEM (maybe except for Baelz who just doesn't seem to know what she's doing) display this tendencies and some would spite their audience on purpose.

>> No.47084674

>>47083417
Ina's start times would usually be from 12pm to 2pm PST which is basically mirrored Fauna's and steams around those times will some times bleed into 5pm - 6pm which is when Gura would usually start
It's no exaggeration to say she's benefited the most from them being gone because she now has several hours to stream with basically zero overlap and that benefit exacerbated is even hard when buff games like minecraft are frequent choice of stream game for her
In the span about 4 months she jumped from an average at around 4-7k to 10-13k and she's only taken hit in the very brief times Ina has come back

>> No.47084779

Holy shit, 99 posters. Mixed collabs really ruffles /vt/'s feathers.

>> No.47084837

>>47084569
Ah, yes my apologies, sister. I thought I was speaking to someone who understands how English works. Yes "all female" as in female only, for example, the collab in OP that you're so desperate to deflect from. Since you seem to be new, I'll explain something else: people typically discuss OP, hence why there are things called "threads." Anyways, you've lost.

>> No.47084957

>>47084837
What'd I lose? I had a great time slapping you around tempisstroon.

>> No.47085017

>>47069948
Bae didn't have a proper tempiss collab in months unless you count some birthday call-ins (that's how I've learned that spic sounds like a total faggot).

>> No.47085041

>>47084217
Unicorns and schizos, what's the difference?

>> No.47085073

>>47077415
Do you expect people to not discuss things out or what?

>> No.47085123

>>47085041
Unicorns don't give a fuck about Miko or Subaru collabing with males years ago

>> No.47085177

>>47084957
Where was the "slapping around?" I said 21k is more than 17k, you went "BUT JP!" Your tears are delicious. Don't forget your hormones next time.

>> No.47085191
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47085191

Rent free niggers.
You can call her "lazy" but don't blame your garbage of an oshis faults on her.

>> No.47085346

>>47085177
That's not what you said schizo
Unlike you I don't need any hormones

>> No.47085476

>>47085346
>that's not what you said schizo
>>47081581
Once again, you are proven retarded. It's honestly embarrassing you keep trying.

>> No.47085627

>>47085476
That's not what you said in your original post which I quoted in this post >>47084569
It's honestly embarrassing how you keep trying to pretend to be retarded and keep failing

>> No.47085842

>>47085627
>That's not what you said
>BTFO
>W-well, you d-didn't say it in t-this post though!
Make sure to take more estrogen next time, sis. Your testosterone is making you have anger issues again. I enjoyed slapping you around though.

>> No.47085851

>>47084580
I meant more so that causation does not equal correlation and people who blame their low CCVs on male collabs are purposely being disingenuous for the sake of pushing an agenda when the explanation for said CCVs hinge more game and timeslot choice
Like for example people will point to Fauna having a stream with 10k CCV and Ame having 3k CCV and go "duuur itz cuz of tempus" while ignoring that Fauna's stream was Minecraft during primetime while Ame's stream was guerilla part #23 of her Oblivion playthrough that's lasted for nearly two years at 1 am in the morning on wednesday night

>> No.47086187

>>47085842
>Say dumb shit
>BTFO
>Pretend to be retarded for a dozen of posts to save face
No matter how much you act like a bitchy woman you will never become one tempisstroon.
It's normal for a man to have high testosterone btw. A troon like you wouldn't know about that of course.
I enjoyed watching you writhe like a worm on a frying pan. Show me how much lower you can go.

>> No.47086527

why are people acting like watching vtubers is masculine in any degree
why are people pretending they get a say in asian media when they themselves aren't asian

>> No.47086560

>>47086187
>saying 21k is more than 17k is saying dumb shit
Listen "man," all I'm saying is that I've proven you wrong multiple times and you've yet to prove me wrong once. You can't. No matter how much you kick and scream, 21k will always be more than 17k.

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>>47086560
That's not what you said schizo
Deal with it

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47086820

>>47086527
>why are people acting like watching vtubers is masculine in any degree
Because it is.
>why are people pretending they get a say in asian media when they themselves aren't asian
The customer is always right.

>> No.47086930

>>47086709
I already have shown you that is indeed what I said. It's not my fault you deflected from my point, then forgot all about it, Alzheimer's-chama. You squirming like a worm on a frying pan won't change that. Also
>Twitter meme

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47087141

>>47086930
>I already have shown you that is indeed what I said
Not what you said originally. That's just you moving the goalpost.
>you deflected from my point
You still don't know what that word means.
>Keeps repeating after me
Like oshi like fan. Both shameless leeches kek.
>Twitter
Clueless on top of all that

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>47087141
Lol, lmao, it keeps going

>> No.47087389

>>47078063
You might be waiting awhile. She rarely does it.

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47087462

>>47087382
>reddit meme

>> No.47087572

>>47087141
>Moving goalposts
From... what this thread is about? Surely you aren't THIS retarded.
>Still don't know what that word means
The thread is about EN, you brought up JP. That IS a deflection. You don't understand English so I'm not sure why you try to debate how English works but I don't mind clowning you for free.
>Leeching
You can leech from someone less successful than you.
>>Twitter
Yes. Vtuber board. Dialate
By the way, remember when I posted >>47080058 ? I'm doing that again this whole time. You're very easy to milk for laughs.

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47087771

>>47087572
You can keep twisting and turning but the truth is that you fucked up.
The JPs were brought up after you made your ridiculous claim.
>You can leech from someone less successful than you.
Glad you think that way but that's fortunately not our case here.
>Vtuber board
*Hololive board
FIFY tranny
>You're very easy to milk for laughs.
Ok lolcow whatever you say

>> No.47088111

>>47087771
>JPs were brought up after
Yes, despite the thread being about EN. It's interesting how you bring up "twisting the truth" when I caught you red handed.
>Not our case here
Oh no, it is. I'm superior to you.
>Hololive board
You still used a Twitter meme. How would your sisters feel if they found out you use the big bad incel website?
>no u
And with that, I've won once again.

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47088209

>>47088111
>I caught you
>I'm superior to you
>I've won
Keep going lmao

>> No.47088489

>>47070767
>the core of a streamer
Says who, retard?

>> No.47088915

>Suisei is irrelevant muh male collabs
3rd in average CCV in all of Hololive. This ALONE puts unicorns' arguments to sleep.

>> No.47088988

>>47088915
>>47080800

>> No.47089245

>>47088988
Why can't you just take the L and acknowledge that male collaborators aren't necessarily a tier below those who don't?

>> No.47089310

>>47088209
Unfortunately it seems like the clown ran out of dialogue...

>> No.47089330

>>47089245
why would i acknowledge a falsehood

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