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>>46992235I actually rested in bed when I realized Fauna's mana didn't regen after tutorialThis makes others missing theirs even worse>>46992213Fuck, other holo fangames usually at least usually focus more on TP
>>46992318I meant <50% because I'm retarded.
What did we learn in the last thread?
* TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS CHARTS *>>46611036 :: Hololive (the japanese branch)>>46614240 :: Hololive EN>>46614898 :: Hololive EN starting from 2021>>46748208 :: Nijisanji ENAnd some omakes>>46614711 :: Hololive EN + Hololive EN un-deadbeated, un-chickened>>46624441 :: Hololive EN + Hololive EN max-sharked, max-tacod>>46625351 :: Hololive EN + Hololive EN un-deadbeated, un-chickened, max-sharked, max-tacod>>46749153 :: Nijisanji EN split by boys and girlsAnd per gen>>46915256 :: True average, per gen, HoloEN NijiEN StarsENPic related is the later, with the current (and somewhat GRIM) state of the EN major corposNext post will be a second detour before Muth>the current full state of StarsEN
>>46992356Holonaholes would make bank
>>46992356Competition is necessary to prevent infighting
>>46992356Despair leads to obvious botting attempts.
>>46992356Homobeggars are actual antis
>>46992356Battle mechanics wise, the SMOK RPG is still the best holo fangame
>>46992360And here is the current>FULL STATE OF THE UNION OF HOLOSTARS ENSincluding the branch wide chart, the per "sub unit" chart and the individual chart per channel, all in one image to spare you guys from a 10 posts series.>Tl;dr at the endI'll try to be brief and condensed. GROUP PERFORMANCE>1) Holostars EN as a wholeThey recently hit their all time low mid March and had a modest bounce back thanks to (as it will be mentioned) the current Axel VSaikyou incline>2) Tempus 1They just bounced back up to their January heights, again, thanks to Axel VSaikyou performance>3) Tempus 2They are at their all time low and never managed to stop reclining. Right now their collective average is on 3 digitsINDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCES, TEMPUS 1>4) AxelAxel hit his career low between February and March,.but got a major break and is riding a massive incline wave thanks to his VSaikyou APEX streams (feat. Selen and Regis) and is back at his (modest) September 2022 heights with an average of 2.6k+>5) MagniMagni got very close to hit his career low again in mid March, but had a modest recovery and is sitting a little over 2k average>6) VesperVesper hit his career low also mid March, abd us bouncing between that point and the 2k line since then.>7) RegisLike the rest of the original bunch, Regis also hit his career low (and 3 digits average) mid March, and is experience a modest recovery thanks to VSaikyou, despite rarely putting his POV up (laser focusing the audience on Axel)INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCES, TEMPUS 2>8) GavisThe big earner of his "half gen" is also the one with the highest live audience and an average of 1.7k right now.He's in a non stop recline starting at the start of March and it doesn't seem to have any respite in sight>9) HakkaThe spanish-speaking bird first crossed the 1k line on the downwards direction at the start of March and is stuck down there since them, but above of the 900 line (which, as it will become apparent in the next mentions, is actually not that GRIM)>10) ShinriShinri dropped to 3 views hell a little over one month since debut, going all the way down to the 750 range. He experience a little "incline" out of absolute despair, and is now at a less hellish 886 average.(trigger warning, thing will get very GRIM from this point)>11) FlayonLike Shinri, he dropped to 3 views range a month after debut but he didn't stop there. He crossed down the 900 line, the 800 line and the 700 line and is now sitting at his career low of 632 but with a performance that clearly shows he can go lower.Flayon might end up being the first PROPER Holostar in the EN range, with numbers to equiparate to his JP counterparts.tl;dr>Holostars EN as a whole are reclining>Tempus 1 are reclining or stable at a low point except for Axel, riding a massive incline wave thanks to VSaikyou buff>Tempus 2 are reclining as a while, with different degrees of despair ranging from "controlled descent" by Bettel to "OH GOD GOD OH GOD OH GOD!" by Flayon>"Too long didn't read didn't watch didin't glance at the charts" summaryStarsEN is dying, some of them might save themselves, the rest will become proper Holostars
>>46992432Axel is literally leeching off of Selen and will fucking crater when vsaikyou is over
>>46992389The question is, how to make the mold
Ceres Fauna Birthday Celebration 2023Birthday Merch Complete Set Limited Edition 1000 $109.00 $109,000.00Birthday Merch Complete Set 385 $109.00 $41,965.00Kirin's Bento Box 88 $20.00 $1,760.00Kirin's Chopsticks with Case 174 $13.00 $2,262.00Kirin's Water Bottle 154 $28.00 $4,312.00Sapling Plushie 268 $31.00 $8,308.00ASMR Voice "Private Tea Time with Fauna" 317 $20.00 $6,340.00$173,947.00IRyS Birthday Celebration 2023Birthday Merch Complete Set Limited Edition 1000 $89.00 $89,000.00Birthday Merch Complete Set 937 $89.00 $83,393.00The "Spring of Hope" TapestRyS(Tapestry) 222 $24.00 $5,328.00The Tofu? Mouse PadRyS(Mouse Pad) 1000 $39.00 $39,000.00The Bloom & Gloom SlippeRyS(Room Slippers) 187 $28.00 $5,236.00$221,957.00
>>46992480poorlings...
>>46992478Don't worry about it. I have a lot of experiences with the real vagina.
>>46992480>Fauna Birthday Merch Complete Set Limited Edition: $109,000.00>IRyS Birthday Merch Complete Set Limited Edition $89,000.00WHEN I SAY "FAUNA" YOU SAY "KNEEL"?
>>46992552Retarded falseflag. Apply yourself.
>>46992552kek
>>46992422>waves
>>46992552KNEE-ACK!
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
>>46992604
>Single POV kiara channel collabgreat, another sub 20k
GRIM
Don't blame her, this clearly isn't supposed to be 1 pov
*FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY*>78,299: Ryushen (Nijisanji)>77,721: Miko (Hololive)>44,536: Marine (Hololive)>43,634: Mumei (Hololive)>38,955: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>38,059: Hal (Neo Porte)>32,567: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>31,300: Marine (Hololive)>28,719: Lui (Hololive)>27,300: Pekora (Hololive)>27,079: Lui (Hololive)>26,941: Kanae (Nijisanji)>26,252: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>25,595: Watame (Hololive)>24,804: Chiroru (Indie)>22,289: Subaru (Hololive)>19,610: Kanata (Hololive)>19,442: Nagao (Nijisanji)>19,154: Hayato (Nijisanji)>18,649: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>17,693: Nerumero (Indie)>17,685: Met (VSPO)>17,613: Kanae (Nijisanji)>15,146: Lamy (Hololive)>15,089: Koyori (Hololive)>13,866: Lauren (Nijisanji)>13,484: Kou (Nijisanji)>13,235: Luca (Nijisanji)>12,839: Laplus (Hololive)>12,282: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>12,020: Salome (Nijisanji)>11,808: Elira (Nijisanji)>11,681: Chihiro (Nijisanji)>11,396: Chaika (Nijisanji)>11,363: Noel (Hololive)>11,151: Furen (Nijisanji)>10,924: Botan (Hololive)>10,912: Ange (Nijisanji)>10,667: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>10,645: Alban (Nijisanji)>10,612: Towa (Hololive)>10,274: Shiina (Nijisanji)>10,259: Kronii (Hololive)>10,211: Toru (Nijisanji)>10,024: Hakase (Nijisanji)
>>46992604WHY IS MOMMY 2D UUUUU
>>46992429Guys Pochi is playing minecraft she just talked about french meals
>>46992429Sorry, 2k is for big boys
>>46992775share the stream link
>>46992588>>46992718I thought he's tribalist as fuck against Nijisanji?
>>46992422I don't understand why these clowns don't understand that I give exactly zero shits about Nijisanji. Expanding HoloEN has so many benefits even for people who already found their oshi. Just imagine the missed opportunities if we were still on just Myth. They don't understand that people are upset about low stream times because there aren't enough people in HoloEN to cover the blatant scheduling holes.Of course, in their eyes StarsEN getting a 2nd gen so quickly was a blessing from the heavens, so it's a bit too obvious why they don't want to see more HoloEN.
>>46992637Half the members will put up streams 20 minutes before.
hololive Boardhololive Thread
EN3 teaser dropping later.
>>46992505Now this is mindshare everyone always talking about saplings and fauna. Truly guras protege
>>46992854https://www.youtube.com/live/lxpkB74-Nxw?feature=share
>>46992876a disillusioned nijinigger piggy-bagging Hololive to further his agenda
>>46992748>APRIL 2023 GOLDS1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros Tournament>PER COMPANY4x: Hololive3x: Nijisanji1x: Indie, Neo Porte>PER STREAMER2x: Miko1x: Chiroru, Hal, Okayu, Pekora, Ponto, Toya, Ryushen>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY75x: Hololive17x: Nijisanji4x: Indie2x: Neo Porte1x: VSPO>PER STREAMER28x: Pekora9x: Marine6x: Miko5x: Toya4x: Subaru3x: Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei2x: Chiroru, Hal, Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro, Ryushen
>>46992965https://www.youtube.com/watch/lxpkB74-Nxw
>>46992965https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxpkB74-Nxw
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*>4/9 DAILY TALLY43,634: Mumei (Hololive)13,235: Luca (Nijisanji)11,808: Elira (Nijisanji)10,645: Alban (Nijisanji)10,259: Kronii (Hololive)6,905: Pippa (Phase Connect)6,464: Axel (Holostars)6,138: Elira (Nijisanji)5,287: Millie (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered4) Mori (Hololive) - 24,195 - Birthday Stream5) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,994 - Minecraft6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 13,826 - Birthday Karaoke7) Kronii (Hololive) - 21,845 - Uno (w/ Mori, Magni, Vesper)8) Selen (Nijisanji) - 23,498 - PuyoPuyo Tetris 2 Tournament9) Mumei (Hololive) - 43,634 - Outfit Reveal>PER COMPANY7x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER2x: Baelz, Mori, Kronii1x: Sonny, Selen, Mumei>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)11p: Baelz, Kronii10p: Mori, Mumei8p: Sonny6p: Luca5p: Selen4p: Fauna3p: Ina, Vox, Kotoka, Mysta1p: Kiara, Axel, Amelia, Elira
>>46993071>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY68x: Hololive29x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER11x: Mori8x: IRyS, Baelz7x: Amelia, Mumei6x: Vox, Fauna, Ina, Gura5x: Kronii3x: Mysta, Pomu, Kiara, Shu, Selen1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)80p: Fauna68p: Mumei67p: Mori66p: Baelz65p: IRyS62p: Ina56p: Vox54p: Amelia43p: Mysta33p: Kronii32p: Kiara, Luca30p: Gura23p: Selen17p: Shu16p: Pomu11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny9p: Millie, Enna, Ike8p: Finana7p: Regis, Elira6p: Rosemi, Ren5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English4p: Vesper, Fulgur3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina
That Kris faggot needs to commit. Shit up here like a schizo or shit up Twitter like every good journalist out there.GRIM
>>46993116Stop posting about yourself faggot
>>46993116Isnt he already going in a schizo rampage about numbers?
>>46992552>Cherry picking numbers to make your oshi look good in comparison.Based Based Based Based Based BASED BEHAVIOUR!!!!
>>46993112I LOVE MOOM
>>46993179Me too!
>>46992911I BELIEVE.
>>46992998I remember him. He was Kris the Cocosimp when Coco was around and few months after she left. Don’t think he was ever a nijifag (at least going by his name and previous oshi marks, I obviously never paid much attention to his post)
>>46992911>>46993269Let it go anon... it's over...
>>46993179She can't stop talking about fertility
Alright, /#/, it needs to be said and no one isSo let's hear it
>>46993179the new moom outfit is peak gf material only second to Sora's casual outfitbrunette Holos have the best gf aesthetic
>>46993339At the current pace, Mumei will have passed Kronii by the end of June.
>>46993350Fauna is a dogshit streamer and this threads obsession with her just because she doesn't collab with men is fucking stupid.
>>46993350These are the only EN's worth watching
>>46992432>(which, as it will become apparent in the next mentions, is actually not that GRIM)This sentence alone invokes all the GRIM you need
>>46993376Mumei in general has great outfits desuIn general holo designs are at their best when plain
>>46993339>everyone hit 5 digits for 30 days>shitrys still low 4 digits
>>46993402This thread is obsessed with her because of her decent numbers (EN standards) and relatively consistent streaming frequency, plus the lack of self-debuff actions. Being unicorn-friendly is only a tiny part of that
>>46993428>Kiara>worth watching
TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM
>>46992356Posting holos like Moom inhibts the Nijispam. I crave some Korosan now though.
>>46993506Kiara?
>>46993428>>46993506Nobody cares about irys outside of her being CGDCT, so why bother putting her in this group? She could collab with a homo and all her value is gone.
>>46993560Im a cunnychad myself but i cant deny hags are pretty damn good.
>>46992911Bot today, Bae's announcing her outfit/orisong/move to Japan later.
>>46993428Fix'd it for you
>>46993179Samesies
>>46993577Unculled, unshackled Kiara is Mumei tier. (Debuff content not included)
>>46993402Fauna is loved because Fauna is based, now cope and seethe
>>46993623what a sad creature
Instead of wasting my time here reading the same old bait posts I'm going to start doing my jp reps untill I get into nijisanji en. Then become the biggest male vtuber around to build a harem. See you suckers later.
>>46993623You must be fun at parties
Rate my taste:>Ame>Ina>Bae>Kronii>Fauna
>>46993350I fucking love Mumei and Korone
>>46993762Shit
>>46993763
>>469937622/5Pretty meh if you ask me.What about mine?>Ina>Gura>Fauna>Mumei>IRyS
>>46993762Where are the JPs
>>46993340Can't have Cover making more slaves out of broken girls now can we?I think I read a doujin with that plot once.
>>46993350There's no problem in liking Nijis.There is a problem that you can't accept their numbers are shit most of the time.
Here are my EN tastes>Fauna>Gura>Mumei is kinda cool too>SanaI'm European
>>46993834I love samurai titties!
>>46993811>IRySbased
>>46993893I accept that their numbers are shit, and makes fun of it
>>46993763i love fucking korone
>>46993891Broken girls are the formulae for hololive supremacy. It's the main ingredient the rest of the industry is lacking in.
>Sora>Korone>MumeiSo brown for Holos means "pure looking but actually sex"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRFXM3xJIQ0How could the sheep do this to the symbol of peace?
>>46993992Same, and add Okayu to the mix for me
How does Sora do it?How does she seduce cute and sexually pent up girls?Just look at her, she has A-chan, Lo-fi, AZKi, Kotone and now Kaela all around her little finger! And that's discounting all the soratomos!
>>46994052Soratomos exist?
I've got to hand it to Fauna. She's a fake ass bitch but at least she commits to the fakeness. I don't think I can pretend to like a game for 11 hours straight in front of an audience
>>46994007Not always, considering AnyaShe cute do
>>46993350I'm so happy some of the indie midgets are trying to start to organize group concerts on the EN side even if I know it's gonna be super scuffed VRchat stuff since EN needs to grow from being streamers to idols.
>>46993762>>AmeAverage taste>>InaExtremely Based taste >>BaeDecent taste. (In need of some correction)>>KroniiMid as fuck taste. (Would still bang)>>FaunaASTONISHINGLY BASED AS FUCK.
>>46994072Yes!I exist after all!
>>46994102Concerts dont equal to idols anon, they are still going to be western whores at the end of the day.
>>46992432Should have thought about that before collab spamming after sisters decided to give them a chance. They can pretend mixed-gender streams don't affect viewership all they want, but Gavis numbers tell you all you need to know.
>>46992432Selen and Regis especially the former almost never putting her POV is propping up Axel but even somehow still a shitter guess that beating Luxiem with all the leeching was expecting too much for me.
>>46994072It's a transitive relation: you like a vtuber, you like Sora. The only exceptions are those who came before her, and most of them have quit now.
>>46994097Anya is cute, what do you mean?
>>46993811>>Ina>>Gura>>Fauna>>Mumei>>IRySExquisite taste.
>>46994238Absolutely, but not "pure looking but actually sex"
>>46992422STOP SCREENSHOTTING THIS LITERAL WHO HOLY SHIT I DO NOT CARE
>>46994320>t. Kris
>>46994185There's plenty of midgets who aren't whores, but have got no traction because unlike on JP, there is no support network to connect the talented singers to each other and cross pollinate audiences. Small time singing relays and jank concerts are a massive step up from having nothing and I'm ecstatic to see this kind of networking imported from the JP side.
>>46993983But do you like their livers?If not this might not have been for you.
>>46993894>Sanaアノン君これはベースードですよ~
>>46994272Maybe is just sexual preference.
>>46994349Wasn't Lily Kanon more of EN vsinger? She's pretty great at networkingOr was I just mislead by her speaking English during events?
>>46993560Boobs too big
>>46994336No nigga I’m just sick of you cunts searching from some literal who with like 10 likes to get mad at. This shit isn’t even like Oboretai where at least the dude has a clip channel he’s using to actively push his agenda this dude is literally nobody.
>>46994622Just report them as offtopic and stop talking about him retard
>>46994506She's fluently bilingual, but integrated far more into the JP box then the EN side, which is why she acted as the host trying to introduce other bilingual singers like Sugarock and Himitsu Kano on that one radio show thing. Best example of this is if you look at the fact she performs in Cluster, which is a very JP centric platform, instead of VRchat and the massive amount of notable, for indie JP VR singers, in attendance at her birthday concerts in the audience.
>>46994622NTA but the dude gets like 1K likes in each tweet, he does have some small influence in the twitter community.
>Enter numberfag general thread>It's infested with hololive wankingHololive hololive hololive. All this thread talks about is hololive. Fuck this thread. Why no Vshojo discussions? Why no Nijisanji or small corpo chuuba mentions??? Or literally the plethora of underappreciated underrepresented indie chuubas!??? Why is it that all you maggots ever talk about is fucking hololive. Honestly. I'm sick of it.
>>46994716HOLOBOARDHOLOTHREADHOLOHOBBY
>Oh boy Ryushen won Ryushen Lewds!>check last thread, like 5 picturesEveryday /#/ disappoints me more
>>46994812Nigga you blind?
>>46994716Sue me Nazuna ya srub.
>>46994716Get numbers worth talking about first. This thread drooled over Kuzuha’s APEsex tournament streams, for example
>>46994716>>46994812HOLOBOARDHOLOTHREADHOLOHOBBY
>>46994716If you want to talk about some NijiJP numbers then you're welcome to do so, I don't mind discussing them with you. If it's about NijiEN then fuck off tho.
There is 53 minutes and there's still no other povs.They need POVs because she won't be actively participating in the minigames. What the fuck.
I don't blame IRyS for doing karaoke so much. And Kronii has only been back for a week too.
>>46994687The JP vsinger scene is poaching EN vsingers...
>>46994716hololive Board hololive Threadhololive Territoryhololive Colonyhololive Earthhololive Cityhololive Gardenhololive Box
>>46994932They really screwed up by not giving Irys a gen. The gen member boost would have gotten her to 1 million by now.
Small chuuba pollinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmfhCZ0R8_E
>>46994919Anon this is en we are talking about. They will put up a frame 10 minutes befor starting and tweet about it 5 minutes after starting
>>46994435Mumei and Sora are definitely in the "pure and sex" department
Is there a chance of hololive poaching some Niji in the future like they did with Luna or do you think there's some sort of agreement between the two companies to prevent that from happening now. I feel like it should've happened multiple times already. They hired a bunch of literal who's for holoX.
>>46995094True
>>46995098Why would they even need to?
>>46993506>dying in Japan>>no ztream>dying in US>nice posse there
>>46995088Did the holopro account even tweet about it?
>>46994563Korone's? She's huge though. I'd say third or fourth.
>>46995098Feeling like I've read this exact sentence a month ago.
>>46994919Maybe Kiara is the only one who believes there is going to be multiple povs
>>46992432>red shotai'm still flabbergasted by that debut month choice of spamming and doubling down on VNs and obscure RPG maker shit. How the fuck do you throw that away?
>>46995098>Is there a chanceNada. Zilch. Null.
>>46995156
>>46995098I doubt itNot because they don't want to but because there's nothing worth it there outside of Salami
>>46995210Hey at least they got a retweet...
hololive member subs floor is now finally above 600k
>>46994716>>46994716ai generated complaintsBut, to put it shortly.>VshojoWas the 3rd best perfoming Vtuber group on Twitch in January, after Isegye Idol and Stellive.Waktaverse having a graduation, new members and Isedol collab with Setellive in he time since, is more interesting than anything Vshojo has done, unless you're into drama.>Midoi lewds>>46983410This anon summed it up.
>>46994932>I don’t blame IRyS for doing karaoke so muchShe’s a vsinger, anon. She sings because she’s an actual singer, who was accepted as the company’s vsinger. That’s why she sings.
>>46994946I wish, but she's just like Claire-Sensei where they started on the JP side because there was no EN scene back in the day, and I think they both live in Japan anyway.
>>46995098They didn’t poach Luna
>>46994932Don’t think Karaoke streams will unfuck her channel from the algorithm, though, but anything helps I suppose
>>46995383why are they like this
>>46995465What, you don't like missing all the kino moments both during offcollabs and the VR streams?
>>46995465who's a good cameraman in EN?
>>46995383Ah yes a classic Kiara production
>>46995538Bae got way better from what I remember
>>46995574Blame all the other girls who didn't want to do one. I'm actually disappointed in Fauna.
Are you ready for the worst performing big HoloEN collab to date?
You think mumei thinks about her fans raping her and getting off to it or maybe it’s one of the girls. She seemed really intent on telling us how fertile she is
>>46995098Nice try, nijivermin scum. hololive doesn't want your sloppy seconds. Every member of EN3's roster will be nobodies that Saviourfag Yagoo found on the side of the road. Literally a ragtag group of Hungry chuubas that'll make JP holos look lazy in comparison.
>>46995608Is it the timeslot? Are the other members sick?I know Mumei isn't feeling well.
Now that I think about it Salome is really being wasted in nijisanji.Im 100% certain that a girl with her gimmick would have had fun integrating herself with the others members and unlike the niji most of thhe holosenpai would not be intimidated by her numbers...ahh what a waste
>>46995465Too early for IRyS, Mori and Bae (8AM and around 6-7AM respectively). Moom is dying. Don’t know about the rest
This collab is going to be a tremendous shitshow
>>46995693The prophet tried, but he got flamed instead by the nijiniggers.
>>46995693>Joins niji>Is s tuck isolated>Languishes and dies off>Joins holo>Gets supported by others>Improves massively in every aspect including her mental health
>>46995575Yea, she was good at the recent SportsFes.
>>46994932You know what? I noticed one thing. Irys often has super long SC reading only seconded to Kiara. Maybe that's the reason why. YT algo saw her viewers drop more than half for 50% of the stream duration so it graded her in 'bad content'.Watame has super long SC reading but she has better retention so it won't hurt her that much.
>>46995733EN event organizer…
>>46995733>things are still in the works until last minute
>>46994102Completely anti idol and anti hololive but have 0 creativity so they fall back on copying hololive.
>>46995834
>>46995733Gura isn't even there, there's no excuse for this lack of preparationDon't tell me they are actually using it their brand
>>46995733See it's shit like this that makes me appreciate how most HoloJPs set and prepare things up weeks or even months beforehand.
>>46995098>Is there a chance of hololive poaching some Niji in the futureNo. There's no one of worth there to poach. Their scouting team has shown that they're competent either way. They have no need to poach anyone from anywhere.>like they did with LunaThey didn't.
>>46995797This time it is the fault of peopme kiara hired. She gave them weeks to do it and they only finished the world yesterday and put off the coding of the games until the last day
>>46995834Most actual indie VTubers on YT (and not VTweeters, pre-debut shitters or the like) have nothing against Hololive, though
This shit was in the work for WEEKS. The people she's working with are fuckups this time.
>>46995910Kiara did hire them way in advance. They were just really lazy
>>46994349It’s because vshojo is trying to ruin anything hololike. Small corpos are at bat against each other trying to snake talents and no matter how many small indies get they can’t set one up b without a backer with some background. If they can get any holoen or nijien to cosign as a guest it can take off.
>>46995939>on YTThat's the thing, vast majority of them go to Twitch if they aren't a corpoAnd that's a good thing! The less of these shitters on youtube the better!
>>46995923>>46995964The world itself is mostly irrelevant in context of preparations from the girls though unless the stream is heavily scripted
>>46995733Kiara is *cough* the best *wheeze* collab org-ACK
>>46995733Kiara is generally pretty prepared so I wouldn't be surprised if Ame's crew was just being lazy and waited till the last minute again. Similar to how you need to tard wrangle Kanauru so he doesn't sneak in references in serious work, I'm guessing Ame's 3D team needs to be tard wrangled to actually do things ahead of time.
>>46995098Luna wasn't poached.
>>46994716Enter number thread hololive has best numbers talk about hololive.
Memberships > stickers > super chats
>>46995778>including her mental healthEeeeh, holos get better at living with them, menheras can't be unmental'd
Everyone itt will never be white. Sad.
>>46996042They are coding the games for the collab on VR world, so it is kinda relevant
>>469954658am for Mori and IRyS. Don’t know about the others excuse.
>>46996042Anon it's fucking VR, are you stupid? The people building the world/minigames for this shit decided to be lazy faggots.
>>46995910That's more due to the fact their schedules are filled to the fucking brim that not setting things up way in advance is just asking for troubles.Though I will admit it's commendable how they wouldn't even make an announcement until they finalize things up behind the scene.
>>46995778Luna is also got in shape by joining Hololive.
>>46996129>8am is too early to do their job
>>46995733The saddest thing about EN3 is that the new girls really don't have a chance between Tempiss trying to groom them and the complete fuckups in Holomyth being their Daisenpai. How are you meant to be a new EN girl and turn out decent?
>>46996125Weren't the games usually the worst parts of these collabs? Them malfunctioning would be a good thing
Kiara did sound a little annoyed at the vr team yesterday because they only finished the world yesterday and didn't even start at the games
>>46995693Salome was the perfect hololive funnel machine that backfired spectacularly. The fact that she was so divorced from the Nijisanji brand that literally a majority of her audience was hololive bandwagoners and normal fag Tourists, that when hololive fans began leaving in droves, the algorithm picked that up and dragged every Tourist along with them. It's such a shame that her popularity was so short-lived. But to be completely honest, she was simply on borrowed time.
>>46996185By sliding into Gura's DMs and asking her for tipsThen strong arming her into collabs
>>46996115Sorry to destroy your illusions but I'm almost as Dutch as they come. Half my lineage comes from Batavia, second half stayed in Europe in the 1600s.
>>46996219Guess it's time to start finding new staf.
Snuffy new model on the telly>meaning Twitch main pageOtherwise pretty normal numbers going into NA hours.
>>46996185Oh yes anon how could you EVER do a better job than your predecesors. Literally impossible. As we know senpai culture is a real thing in the west and if the senpai don't prepare them to be good streamers no one will, there are literally no other people who can
>>46995098they will poach miyu ottavia
>>46996269Each new model I see of hers is worse than last
>>46996078>Mori revealed her channel membership is at an all time high>Goes on a month long break
>>46996219Iirc she gave them a month to finish everything and it sounds like they just started this week.
>>46996078Covers financial report already showed that sc are a bigger oart
Can flygon even reach 1k without a raid?
>>46996238>Hey Gura got any advice?>Read 3:42 AM
The power of western indies...
>>46996464no.
>>46996353At least i don't think she's releasing one every 3 months anymore.
>>46996487Hex, get down!
>>46996487stop posting disgusting models please
I hope they fucking find new people to work on VR shit if they get a MONTH and still can't do this shit in time. I feel bad for Kiara who stayed up fucking late for this shit too.
>>46996487omg such creativity, many freedom, wow
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1645194978568855552can't wait to watch half the members complain about being tired the whole time instead of sucking it up and putting on a good performance
>>46995199https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n_vjv3iYUTQThis a cover from Reina and Nami of kawaii
>>46996269We don't acknowledge Twitch numbers. Snuffy got 10k on a bot breeding ground? No one cares. If she switched platforms, YouTube bot filter would have culled her to the grave.
>>46996540Or, frankly, just cut down on VR. What’s with EN and their obsession with VR for big collabs anyway? JP fared perfectly fine w/o VR even before they got their 3DsNot saying that they should stop it altogether, but if something is complex enough, it’s better to just find alternatives instead
>>46995731Irys is usually awake at this preparing her stream if she didn’t spend the night on anime games or keyboards
>>46992356Faunaschizo is getting desperate
>>46995733Annnddd it's delayed. Off to a great start.
https://kebbie.itch.io/councilrysrpg
and theres a 30min delay
>>46995967That's why you set the deadline to be substantially before you need it, so you can get your hands on it and test things beforehand instead of telling them that it's fine to deliver it on the day of.
>>46996269amazingly she went from generic MOBA character to a generic coomer design
>>46996614Wrong tab?
>>46996586If the na holos complain about being tired i would be very confused. Not even they have sleep shedules that messed up
>>46995328>>46995914>>46996069>Moruru retires in late June. almost July>is announced as a gen 4 member in December>this means that she got accepted almost immediately after she left>they didn't poach herDYRBI
>>46996586No matter how tired she might be and how she might complain about it at the beginning like a spoiled brat, IRyS will still give her best for the performance, though
>>46996487SLAVES LOOK AWAY
>>46996269>MHA cosplay debut>just mirko>this shit would have gotten her entire company in shit back in japanman vshojo literally plays by no fucking rules and still can't dominate western vtubing
>>46996614Why do you bother with passive aggressive schtick? You're just as obnoxious as them, just tell him to fuck off and be done with it
>>46996765THE SHACKLES OF OPPRESSION ARE BREAKING
Top YouTube streams right now.
>>46996487why do indie models always look so fucking hideous?
>>46996160They also feel disappointed whenever they can’t deliver to fans. It’s what makes them so endearing. How can you be mad at them when a cover fails or collab falls through when what makes them most sad is fans don’t get to see it. Very few in en get that, it’s always about them.
>>46996765AIEEE I HATE HER FREEDOM I'M GONNA ALLAHU ACKBAR
>>46996698The game part is pretty boring desu, also unpolished
>>46996730Graduations usually take more time than just one week so assuming Moruru already knew she was going to graduate Fuck bully panada and decided to apply Holo as a plan B. Is not that farfecthed.
>>46996227If the debi ratt isnt true she just chose wrong.
>>46996769They lack creativity and willpower most of the time. Like back when react was the huge meta, what’s the point of trying when being lazy and watching videos is what grows your viewer base.
>>46996909I spent half my time in the casino because I'm a fucking addict but the game is overwhelmingly meh even if it's put together alright
>>46996730Or maybe she got accepted before leaving. “Poaching” implies that they (Cover) targetted and approached her to “steal” her away from AnyColor. It isn’t poaching if she was the one who approached Cover and asked if she could come over if she leaves Niji
>>46996872her previous, early designs (orange raccoon) were somewhat ok from what I've seen, what kills me is that she went for a full revamp with a coomer artist/modeler because it's the go-to for when you've got enough clout, like some vicious cycle. Doesn't help that she's unironically dumb as fuck.
>>46995733I mean they could just delay a few days.
>>46997064Can you even consider it poaching when she was just a runt? If anything the company probably forgot she even existed.
>>46996659Would it be so hard to schedule a mario party, smash bros, marika, or even gang beast collab once a month? There is literally no HoloEN 4 member combination that wouldn't generate at least 16k CCV for the POV streamer.If Cover refuses to debut gen 3 there is no reason the girls can't generate their own hype. Might even give Gura an excuse to show herself every once in a while without having to deal with chat.
Here let me predict the EN collab>big waiting room>30 min delay killing any growth possible>starts>zooms to 15-16k>people find out its more boring VRchat shit>nope out and it plateus at 18kAnything I miss?
Burgers better be standing up and have lights sticks during holoEN concert in LA
>>46996078Idk what stickers are but this has always been obvious 10,000 members even at the low tier is 60,000 a month
>>46997218>15-16k>on Kiara's channelThat's very generous
>>46996659Vr is the onlybthing they have to be different enough from jp.They cant have random totsus because half are unavable always.Offcollabr cant happen every week.Permisions for games are slow.3d lives depend on the jp studio.
>>46997197Yeah, cause any collab has to be scheduled weeks or a month ahead cause the girls are apparently busy behind the scenes. I forgot who it was, maybe Ame, also said by the time the collab date happens some people don’t even want to do it anymore but force themselves cause they accepted.
>>46997230Sorry takes too much energy
>>46997275Nah you can tell by waiting room, it'll be 15-16k guaranteed. Anyway get your asses ready for the homocollab vs girl collab shitposts
>>46997346Nigga did you JUST fucking forget about Kronii's collab yesterday, waiting room means fuckall
>>46997302>Vr is the onlybthing they have to be different enough from jp.Because JP would never, not really cause they don't want to. Then again ID and NijiEN have done VR so clearly in the mind of these girls this is DESIRED content which is baffling cause the numbers keep plummeting for every new one.
>>46997302>only thing they have to be different enough from jp.If that's the truth, that's the dumbest path they chose for themselves, ever.For the whole history of the branch all most of the (old) audience wanted was>be Hololive, but speak englishWhy are they trying to be>anything but Hololive?
>>46994622>some literal who with like 10 likest. KrisWith 1K likes, the fucker likes to parade the homos to everyone. He's worse than regular antis because regular antis are actual 2like fags.
>>46996370Maybe hire actual workers instead of the same people from twitter
>>46997302Do they have to be different from HoloJP, though? What’s wrong with just follows what HoloJP did?I meant, IDK what this event is about, but I doubt they couldn’t create something similar using MC by themselves when they have a month of preparation. MC is pretty well tested so there is minimal chance of technical issue
>>46997230i think connect the world will be the last concert
>>46996464https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=anla_kgTjbgAnother cover from Reina and Nami of production kawaii
>>46997454>they usually pull around for last minute work>when it's not last minute they shit the bedI mean this is completely unexpected but they know now that these people aren't reliable
>>46997402>Why are they trying to be anything but HololiveThey aren't, not one of them breaks from the hololive mold. Dunno why you jpniggers keep pushing this shit. They are in fact, Hololive but in english.
>>46997402Shit tests
>>46997402Hololive is girls doing cute things togheter. But is obvious the lack of girls is REALLY making this hard now that cover has them doing dance/sing/shilling offstream There was no need for kiara to do this collab on the day of animeboston, but if she moved date she would need to delay it who knows when.Like gura had to do with her show where they werwnt sure of a date right after.
>>46997522Because the things i mentioned are part of what jp does that the girls cant do.
Why do you guys still come to this thread?
>>46997617It’s a fucking holiday stream, it’s like saying to delay a Christmas collab till a few days after Christmas.
>>46996614>>46997538>Whore songs>Shit singingThanks for expanding my understanding of K Corp anon
>>46997617It is so funny all this cope bullshit you hear from enfans when holo id exist with less girls and they do just as much stuff together as Holo jp. This lack of girls surprising a problem only in en for some mystic reason,
>>46997700Is fucking easter they could eaisly do this shit next week and people wont mind.
>>46997314Sounds like low energy ame but that’s not an excuse. Interbranch collabs take double the effort and it’s usually handled by jps with 0 problems
>>46997742But anon, the ID all live close to each other!Ignore the fact that they still do online collabs
>Kiara's prechat filled with membersdoesn't bode well, means only KFP are showing up
>>46997742The id girls all live in the same timezone.Not even sure if kaela even does offstream work at least compared to kobo and zeta with their music output
This is not going to beat Ina April fools collab that's for sure. This is why EN is going down the drain, it's just a rush job like EN themselves.
>>46997813Yaay, collab shitshow, my favorite...
>>46997742yeah must be easy for ID since they're all in the same time zone and live within hrs of each other
>>46997813Oh wait, is today? I thought it was tomorrow.
>>46997617The date isn’t really that big if an issue, desu. Going by what anons said (presumably from Kiara), she asked / hired this team to work on it a month ago. They only started a week ago and haven’t even coded the games by yesterday. Sure, if there are more girls, they could’ve bitten the bullet and delayed it by a day or two. However, the issue is that they are just trying too hard to use VR and this (Ame’s?) team sounds unprofessional AF. Kiara could have given them an earlier deadline, too. Those are the problems in this case
Cover just need to have a month of no recordings,no meets, no cons.And just have then stream.En cant keep up with others if they kee piling up work on them until en3 comes
>>46997813Here's your gray
I can understand Cover management being refusing to invest in EN 3D studios for monetary reasons, but it's absurd that every single EN project is either completely grassroots or organized by the talents. What the fuck is EN management for if they won't even be the in-between tracking third party deadlines and coordination? At least support your talents' projects if you refuse to support them financially.The only time this useless EN management ever seems to get off its ass is trying to promote the dead in the water StarsEN.
>>46997663Create fun unique ideas. Most of the puyo puyo Tetris won’t be an offcollab. Or stay with me here decide to meet up. No they can only meet up when Mori wants to do something with trash taste and has a flyover for kiara. Or Kronii doing one of her indie shits and passing by mumei. It’s literally not an excuse if their willing to travel for anything not holo related. Last year when ame fauna ina mumei got together they just decided you want to meet up and do things then they did. Kiara would have went to if she read the messages in time.
>>46997977We're screwed
>>46995793Maybe IRyS should just do dedicated superchat reading streams from now on.
>>46992241god i bet she squeezes penises like that egg with her feet
>>46997980No there is an en branch fully funded and supported by cover
>>46998042>EN meets up>They don't stream>They mention one short story and that they hung out for three days in a zatsudan two weeks later
>>46998167Biggest problem with en is everything is about them.
>>46995098No, they are going to snatch up Production Kawaii gen 3 for their own 3rd gen.
>>46998247That's just a problem with western society itself. What they need is 5 jps who live in the same city and can speak English really well.
Man, SEA is early today. So many stupid takes are normal for SEA time but not that common at this time.
Another reason why you need new girls is to have people willing to tune into collabs cause they had 3rd, 4th favorites etcFor example, my oshi is Gura. My second favorite is Ina. I'm actively engaged in HoloEN but I dislike several of them. From the current collab roster, I'd only actively watch Fauna or Moom if they were doing something interesting, and I'd dodge the shit out of anything with Kronii/Kiara in it if there's no oshi to force me to watch.
EN vtubers were a mistake, i hope yagoo makes holoTW
Hello, I come to shill my 2view.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd5JeZuIr-4
So Gura is in Ayame mode now?
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1645192363021864960they actually had to get closer with the camera for the Homo appearance because of empty seats (they tried to hide some of those seats with the logo but you can tell, it's the only picture that has the logo ON THE LEFT, all the others have it on the right)all the girl pictures were taken from the far back
>>46998042I agree they could use more fun ideas, but meeting up is prohibitively more difficult for EN than JP. It's a lot harder to meet up when you consider that Japan is the size of California and some of them aren't even in the same country. Deciding to meet up when you can take one of the world's best public transport for less than an hour and can be home by the end of the day is significantly different from deciding to meet up when you have to take multi hour flights, potentially international, and need to have overnight plans.
you know...if the EN girls decide to collab with ID more, they can do mini tournament collabs.that's 19 people total.they can do branch collabs with each other.
Something i hate about en collabs is that they seem to be months in the work but feel like they just came up with it in just some days.Like this is sime big easter collab with lots of assets comissioned and kiara literraly put the frame last night and was mostly shilled during her streams that have been superchat/fire emblem/ metroid. So hype about them is always low
>>46998167I remember that early last year. Most of the branch basically went out to have off-collabs and left the branch with days of no streams and for what? An impromptu off-collab stream in the middle of the night that was done more out of obligation than a sincere desire to give the fans something nice.
>>46998424i never saw nijiEN tournament collab with nijiID...
>>46998440Because this got finished 3 second ago.
>>46998379I'd say they still packed enough seats, good for them.
>>46997977> 5400 people waiting is legendaryHeh
>>46998424Is the same deal.Kroni winter collab with id is in eternal limbo.
>>46998547for kiaras channel 5k is kinda big
>>46996859>over 1 million viewers>312 dollars in supers
>>46998506The only time it didnt feel like this was gura show/ kiara mk tournamnet/ worms tournamnet (unfortunately)/ and the first halloween vr collab.
>>46997267Superchat but it’s emotes
>>46998547If you stop having numberrot and look at this from a normal persons perspective then having that many people wait 20 minutes before a stream starts is extremely high.Especially if you come from twitch
>>46998379When are they going to ask themselves "Is this really worth it?".
>>46998424You really think they can easily assemble 16-19 of them now when HoloEN are busy with off-stream shit? That's a scheduling nightmare and why EN3 and ID4 are needed to make EN+ID tournaments possible with participants that actually WANT to participate.
>>46998568project winter is dog shit.what i want to see is actual fun games they can play where lag may not be a major factor.
>>46998733Never, as sad as it may be, it is clear that hololive has chosen this path no matter what.And as long as the homos are still "profitable" nothing is going to change.
>>46998379Bae: 11 visible rowsHomos:8Kiara/Kobo: 12? Maybe still 11, might be max
>>46997742Kobo lives close enough to Reine to come over to use her toilet. Any ENs except Mori and IRyS doing the same involve a a plane.
Talking about the Easter stream being delayed, I vaguely remembered seeing this video a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YeeQWitHx8We know that starting late completely fucks waiting room recovery, but I wonder whether the guaranteed delay whenever HoloEN attempts to collab is beneficial in some way.
>>46997218>Big waiting room>30 min delay killing any growth possiblewe are here
>>46998424>19Cross out Gura and Ina from that list. Cross out Kiara too unless you want it at ass times for NA.
>>46998863>>46997794nta but even when a majority of holoen lived in the same house we barely got streams it is an en problem.
>>46998863I wonder if Kobo is related to Reine in some way.
>>46998802Is still content and that is what the branch needs
>>46999068This is going to fucking suck
>>46993340he's one of the biggest reply-guys of Vtuber twitter, also a clipwatcher so of course he wouldn't see the need for more members.
>>46998348There are actually a few I’ve seen that actually do it solely for the fans even if they don’t personally agree.
>>46998863Mumei flying over to Fauna, barging into her home, saying hi to chat, going to the toilet, saying bye and fucking off would be pretty funny desu
>>46998982Yes but kiaras collabs with id are always great. The last olli, kobo off collab was amazing
>>46999034>lived in the same houseBeing overseas without good steups is not the same.We cannot ask the girls to go on a plane carrying a streaming set up everytime.Is an extra backpack already.
>>46999034Which house? The one where all 5 of them were tied up with 3D showcase/Holofes shit? The one where everyone had to relocate at the last second because Calli got the first house doxxed?
>>46999034They only get to meet in person 1-3 times a year at most. They likely wanted to do fun IRL activities together. If they were able to meet up on a weekly basis, streaming would be a higher priority when they meet up.
>>46997837kaela has literally said multiple times that she still does work and classes during the day.she just loves streaming a lot.
>>46999142How much nunbers was it?
>>46998379>taking the homo shot when everything is cheering for something>taking the girls shot when everybody is quiet paying attentionit's the niji spy doing it
>>46998354Just so you know you’re probably in the majority considering even a members stream for Ina and Gura adds numbers to the other girls
>>46998839you can also see just right behind the logo that the empty seats are beginning, also no visible feet below the logo at the floor in front of the seats
>>4699924712k i think?
>>46999068God dammit. Every fucking time. I could have had a Fauna stream today instead. Why are they like this. Every time. Every time!
>>46999260EN management being with bannedvtmemes wasn't a joke anon
>>46999260Yeah, they do all these little subtle things to try and paint the homos as successful and it gets annoying.
Wel at least 10k is save
>>46999330At least next Sunday should be Bioshock 2 already
>>46999068Nice, bets on it being tech issue that has nothing to do with the world itself and everything with someone not preparing at all?
We need another big pico park collab
ngl, I'm considering back to KFP after seeing this shit show Kiara's facing right now.It's rare to feel awfully bad about an EN's situation like this
>>46999400Wel ame has been the only one silent on twitter
19:36:38 Mori Calliope Ch. hololive-EN lol anyway starting soon19:36:42 Mori Calliope Ch. hololive-EN eggs havent finished boiling19:36:50 Mori Calliope Ch. hololive-EN BE ARE TRYING TO BOIL THEM AS FAST AS WE CAN19:37:10 Mori Calliope Ch. hololive-EN oh yeah hahaha lots of yall are chickens19:37:26 Mori Calliope Ch. hololive-EN not my fault eggs are tasty19:37:31 Mori Calliope Ch. hololive-EN hey where is my tenchou gift sub
Why even care about EN ccv at this point when they ALWAYS murder it with delays
>>46999379That is bad numbers
>>46999379Which ive been looking forward to. Heres to hoping she retained some knowledge and doesnt suck as much as she did in her 1st bioshock stream
>>46999462>>46999483Are you comparing Selen to Fauna
mori farming gifteds lol
>>46999439>ngl, I'm considering back to KFP after seeing this shit show Kiara's facing right now.Anon being unprepared is a staple of every single EN (except Irys she doesn't organize collabs ever)
Oh nice, Ela's zatsu is ongoinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWfeEE_09BEShe's talking about Sora collab, they will use deepL!
>the first all branch collab for EN will be a fucking concert>they probably still won't all be in the same room togetherthat's... very very sad.
>>46999528Im comparing it to just common sense. Bs2 leaves in this limbo of "is not bad but gets otshined by the first one yet" it is not as popular as the first one
>>46999635Fauna's numbers have literally never functioned on common sense. Maybe it will be shit, but jumping on that boat before it starts is dumb as hell.
>>46999619I'm not gonna lie it kinda is pretty disappointing how it feels like you can just write Gura off for all these big collabs nowadays
>>46996052probably. I don't blame Kiara for this or anything but EN really needs an organizer to actually tard wrangle the talents. 40 minute delay really isn't something to laugh off.
>>46999619>the first all branch collab for EN will be a fucking concertAnonchama? What are you even talking about? They already had several all branch collabs, like the amogus one or 2021 Christmas/Halloween.
>>46999764Can you really blame her?
>>46999772But this isn't an issue with the talents though
>>46998422I’m not saying it’s not hard but Mori can brag about taking 4 plane trips in the middle of the month going between America and Japan for undisclosed reasons so it’s definitely not an issue. Half them are willing to travel for undisclosed reasons while the other half is on go. Fauna Mumei Ame Ina maybe gura but those 4 they could plan it today and be ready to meet up Saturday. Then you run into the issue of one them in particular being anti streams for off collabs unless it’s the dead of night and unarchived. Goes back to my original point they’re just selfish
[Kaela News] Kaela plans to sleep after Sora collab
Ina started with a waiting room of 11k after a 30 min delay and peaked at 18.5kI predict his will be worse by all metrics
>>46996281Its a matter of branch culture anon, and desu I've given up on EN as a branch for dead. I treat it like nijisanji audience treats their own these days. Have 1 or 2 you watch and don't give any shits whatsoever about anyone else.
>>46998727>numberrotWe are talking about Hololive, go away with your indie tier level
Man, this model + background works stupidly well for zatsudans
>>46999788why not
>>46999764I dont really blame her. Theyre never prepared or have much of a purpose. They always seem directionless. Plus Gura gets terrible motion sickness. Maybe try not having the big collabs in VR
Have tempus events ever been delayed?
>>46999941Would you want to join collabs where noone cares about the collab?
>>46999861how long is she even going to stream with sora for?she can't do a normal 5/9hr stream
>>46999923Sorry but we've reached the point where we start saying 5k is good nearly every day for the biggest Western Vtubing corpo.
>waiting room has been going up in 20-30 ccv increments for 10 minutesits so over
in the meantime, Mori baited a few hundreds (hololyzer says 400) gifted membership for Kiara's channel
>>46999982management always makes sure that doesn't happen
>>46999952Yeah that's true, the VR thing is a big one and it's probably why Gura never shows up for the big collabs anymore. Wish they could figure out something better.
>>47000000
>>46998712One of those takes no effort 2 povs and a commissioned artwork that could take a day.
[Kaela News] Kaela decided to play Angry Birds after Sora collab instead>>47000034I dunno, I didn't catch the start of the convo but Sora regularly goes above three hours in Micra, sometimes four with collabs
okay, what was the 47millionth post?>>47000000
>>46999999>>46000000
>>47000149>>47000177
>>46999952>Theyre never prepared or have much of a purpose. They always seem directionless.The Halloween one did except no one showed up so they couldn't use the full stage.
>>47000041No we haven’t gura still has an 8k+ waiting room every stream is
>>46999883what the hell are they ever prepared for a collab on time?
>>47000149based
>>47000177Nice
>>47000204based and moompilledtruly the overlord of EN
>>46999815same difference, still need a professional to tardwrangle the involved people and make sure they get shit done on time. An hour wait is not acceptable.
>>47000305Dude we have posts claiming numberrot every time we have a member of Hololive English with a 4-6k stream. It's reached the point where a Holo EN member not even reaching 7k without overlap is "good".
>>47000332>Mumei>KroniiNothing these two are involved in ever starts on time
>>47000332The Ina collab was pretty clearly a management ordered delay
[Kaela News] She's improving and shedding her autism!
>baiting 400 gifted members for another Holos channelMoney Mori lives
>>47000232It was never going to work out. Ame and Bae seriously expected them to solve puzzles.
>>47000332Fauna's collabs usually are unless it has a fucking troublemaker.
kek bae is definitely getting overlapped
>>47000477numbers?
kek bet kronii is gonna cancel her members stream.
People wonder why en members do not like host events.
>>47000535They did though?
This goes way beyond a mere dislike. Some of these girls must have DISDAIN for each other for this level of sabotage.
The VR world was just finished holy shit. They need to find new people to work with, that's unacceptable in every sense of the word.
11k get
Yeah they should never hire these people kiara got again after this shitshow
>we just got the supposedly final final final build of the world
>>47000544Why isnt Bae in this? It was only originally 2 hours earlier? Ina and Gura dont show up for big collabs anymore so i wasnt surprised there but Bae?
>>46992472He also got the expo tour on his channel and hosted full gen (T1) collabs etc. so his numbers are absolutely bloated this month i guess this is part of the reason Cover/investors seem to care more about the subs it's not a perfect metric (see Regis) but it doesn't get affected by things not reflecting the actual popularity of a streamer nearly as much.
>>47000647Not the girls but the incompetent VR people doing everything last minute.
[Kaela News] Kaela has plan of making all of hololive into her wives! She also no longer fears singing on stage as much!
>>47000659>>47000671>>47000704Shouldn't management be making sure that the people their talents have contracted for work are actually doing the work?
>>470007251 hour
>>47000671Don't worry they will hire some one else that is just as bad and blame it on the en curse.
My oshi could’ve gotten her beauty sleep instead of waiting for this…
Kiara hired them a month+ in advance
>planned a collab>days in advanced>the map was completed a few minutes agowho do i blame?
>>47000790Management is just there to collect a paycheck
>>47000790The worst part is that she won't lambast them like they deserve. I'm pretty sure she gave these chucklefucks a fucking month
>>47000790Cover can barely meet their own deadlines you want them to keep track of others as well?
embarrassing
>>47000067LMAO the copeJust admit that the Tempus boys are more professional and just flat out better at their jobs than the girls. Half the girls branch doesn't stream anymore and when they do there is always some kind of technical issue or some other bullshit excuse why they are late. Switching over and becoming a Tempus fan was the best decision I have ever made.
>>47000842>days
>>47000842Not the girls, they were hired a full month in advance
>>46999243Kaela is the only non JP member with jp work ethic.
>>47000903I'm 100% sure Fauna's more on time than any of Tempus.
>>47000827>>47000842If it's seafoamboy, wasnt he in japan these last few weeks? i guess he only had a week to do it?
>>47000842Everyone but mostly the guys she hired, just delay the stream for six hours and take a nap lmao
>>47000790Considering how many times we hear and read "Ame talked to me/wrote the designer/ got in touch with the engineer", it doesn't look like EN management do, or even know what to on the VR side, as far as who and how to talk to creators.
>>47000790No, because apparently the vtubing is the only entertainment industry where the talents have to do everything themselves and management is just for show.
>>47000920a month is a collection of days.so i am grammatically correct either way.
>>47000842The developer for taking beginning a month long assignment the week of and Kiara for hiring these lazy piece of shit.
>>47000704frankly if they're only getting it right before the collab they are doing it wrong. That's a failing of the manager, which is presumably Kiara overseeing this.
Before Mori she had 30 gift members. Makes me think if she wanted to she could go back to the days of like 50k+ months for supers.
>>46995199It's funny that Tempoop was pretty much created for him and bettel, Cover thought he will be a star of homostars. Granted they probably wanted to target female demo more than previously an shota does have his audience, it's just a very small one but I kinda wish all homostars were more like him because there would be almost 0 push for mixed-gender shit if that was the case.
>>47000969>taking on a job when you're going to go on a vacationIf it's him he's a blithering fucking retard
>>47000790What can they do beyond “Please please do your work”, which I’m sure Kiara already did plenty?
>>47000969>takes a gig before a vacationWhat a fucking idiot
>>47001069stop hiring them for projects
>>46996730consider things were different back then and the nepotism is a thing
>>47000372They need a project manager which can be leveraged for talent projects.But I can't really see how that manager could be paid regularly since the flow of projects wouldn't be stable. i.e., if the talents run out of ideas they're a waste of money.Temps maybe?
>>46999568Every collab Gura has set up has been well prepared the only somewhat hiccup was big brain games 1 but during that stream was when she switched to her debut pc the one that Sonic frontiers fried. Should get a little leeway for that
If she just got the final build how long should it take her to actually start the stream? Another 30 minutes or so?
[Kaela News] Kaela excepted to slowly go from sempai to older sempai but she went from holox straight to Sora collab
>>47001069Make sure that the work is being done, and if it isn't facilitate the transfer of the project to more competent people. Y'know, something management should be doing and not the talents.
>>47001069make a contract, first of all?
i want a Garry's mod stream.imagine the cringe kino if it was staged as well.
>>47001163They didn’t. Kiara did, and if the management start interfering with unofficial projects that much I’m sure people will cry about cancelled projects anyway
Who organized this trash?
>>46992888most of them only watch clips and event streams... like the mixed collabs that faggot Kris is mostly a clipfag for example but he watched both Ame collab series, Uno shit and full gen Tempus collabs.
Don't you guys think you're being a little hard, management has their plates full already trying to get people to watch the boys. They don't have the resources to help the girls with their projects
>>47001209The talents' personal managers are supposed to be their own project managers, this shouldn't involve middle or upper management beyond them signing off on it.
>>47001247she collabed with a holox member before?i honestly don't remember.
>>47001209ideally 1 of the talents is just a competent project manager themselves, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to exist in EN, so maybe a manager doing double duty? Not even really sure what their managers are for if they aren't helping them with projects like this and keeping track of schedules....
>>47000232Again VR ina was already gone and they know Gura doesn’t do well with that. They handicap themselves on purpose because they quit being creative
Takanashi Kiara Ch. hololive-ENsorry guys now we have an issue where one cant join our world and gets sent to a different timeline LOL one more sec ;o;
>>47001342Nigga read the tweet?
>>47001400Lui-nee!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEfwtPk1fU0
>>46999982Production Kawaii is always prepared
>>47001418It was literally planned to work fine in desktop specifically for Gura
>>47001400never mind.she's probably referring to the lui collab she did for the Expo right?
>>47001485I don't follow this whore
Jesus these VR collabs are always cursed, fucking just play a game together or something
>>47001275>>47001293See >>47001330. It’s an unofficial project. If the management has to go that far, they might as well treat it as an official project - in other words, a lot stricter. In that case, be prepared for a lot of these unofficial projects to just be denied or take forever to come into fruitation
How long is this again? Is this going be longer than Ina's April Fools?
[Kaela News] Kaela decided that she needs to contact Sora since she was mentioning her on twitter and then got panic attack once Sora DMed her
>>47001468Ame doing shenanigans again.
>>47001330When management starts interfering with talent projects to "make it run better" is when hololive starts down the road of being nijisanji stealing talent projects like Koshien and NJU.
>>47001468AHH JUST START THE STREAM AND ENTERTAIN THE AUDIENCE IN THE MEANTIME YOU DUMB BITCHES
>>47001485Christ. Well hopefully she takes this as a learning experience. Don't receive the world at the fucking last minute, and test it first. They can't enter the world? this is shit they should've worked out beforehand.
>>47001559You don't follow Fauna, IRyS and Mumei either?
>>47001575JACKBOX YOU SAY!?
>>47001594If you think management isn't already sticking their collective dicks in shit like this, then I have a bridge to sell you.
>>47001671Well Fauna is a stupid vapid whore so clearly not
>>47001485>the failure of EN ruins another collab
>>47000842The developers for not delivering on time and Kiara for delaying a stream 30 minutes when she didnt even have the build for the stream, should have cancelled or delayed for a couple hours so she could at least test the build before doing a collab with it
[Kaela News] Kaela hoped Sora would just ignore her friend request, she didn't
>>47001594you gotta have a middleground then, because letting it flow like this will end up with just the talent shafted in the end. also management had to give the green light first of all, didn't they?
Do they hate their fans?
>>47001704i'm fucking JACKED
Here me out here.Garry's mod.VR mode.House of horrors type map shit.bae and mumei as the pair going through the map.create a mini story line.drag it out for like 2 hours.rate the idea.
>>46995574It's not her fault
[Kaela News] Kaela wasn't able to fully prepare and plan out the collab beforehand unlike the elytra hunting one so she's anxious about building things with Sora since it's cooperative thing
>>47001709That wasn’t what I was saying. What I was saying was that they will be logically stricter and have higher standards on official projects over unofficial projects - which might change a lot of things. It doesn’t mean they don’t touch unofficial project at all (of course they do, that’s why the girls have to submit their proposals)
we will now wait on the loading screen for 15mins
At least judging by this Kiara won't organize a VR collab in the near future.
>>47001794is that a "haha, oh shit" moment?
>>47002031I'll bet you $100 not.
>>47001947just set up a server running afraid of monsters with a couple of maps
Since someone here must use the feature, do stream notifications go up when the stream us due, or when it starts?
>>47001930Fuck off you SEA whore.
>>47001468kek if only they could have tested shit before the stream, if she didnt have the build for stream they should have changed to a different game, not wait 50 minutes for the build and then start testing to see if it works
>>47001930as if I needed more reasons to dislike this fag
No one cares about Kaela stop trying to make her relevant
>>47000765If only kaela was EN. She’s proved what I always believed a good holo talent must love hololive or been struggling to find success having their ego shattered.
>>47001846The middle ground is that some EN talent who doesn't stream a lot and doesn't have a lot of projects going on behind the scenes can surely volunteer to try and keep track of preparations for a big collab instead of relying on middlemen who aren't streaming content experts and risk miscommunication.
>>47002163We like Kaela here. Yes, we.
>>47001930I hate him. Disgusting flip faggot. You dont watch Fauna. Cancerous dramawhore
>>47002056Nah, more that she hoped she wouldn't have to face her social anxiety
>>47002163i care about her, fuck you.
And now its dying. Great. Kiara i sincerely feel for you
>>47000859Jp is a well oiled machine and id has competent management for a branch with 0 expectations.
>>47002125>50 minutes The CouncilRyS VR stream got delayed by an hour when the world was finished on time and they showed up three hours early to set things up.
>>47002215sounds good on paper, however then you'd risk having someone ghosting on your project
>>47002163>Kiara shills want you to suck KIara off for organizing collabs>But not give her any of the blame when the collab she admits to organizing is a shit showMy problem is these retards trying to have both. Actual cancerous fanbase
>>47001017Watame's manager has been very useful for her. Maybe they just need to complain about it like Towa seems to do.
[Kaela News] Kaela doesn't know what the collab will actually be since it's up to Sora, also Kaela will try to speak in Japanese while Sora tries to speak Eigo
>Hour and 10 minute delay into 5+ minute waiting room>stream fucking dies a bit during the waiting roomI should've just fucking slept
>>47002239>>47002313Good morning indogs
>>47002103I get mine 30 min before and at the start
>>46999187literally a space cast would worth they are selfish and retarded
>>47002163Kaelaurgaand their autistic oshi are welcome here faggot. If only everyone else loved streaming half as much as she does
>>46995626She's obsessed with hololive in a way that only an autist can be so I can imagine she does on a regular basis
>>47001645Not her fault if the devs takes a month to do nothing but wait til the last minute.
I'm tired of VRchat, it's not interesting anymore and has too much scuff and camera/audio problems
>waiting room so fucked it hasn't recovered past 9kI am a prophet >>46997218
>>47002449Isn't Towa notorious for burining a lot of managers?
nope.nope.no.i tried watching it, but that fucking frog costume piss me off so i switched it off.guess I'll watch kaela zatsu
Kiara looks fat
>lol let's introduce ourselvesit's been 2 years you dumb bitches, you can't pull the "introduce self" filler with a 1 hour delay jesasKiara is the only EN who pulls this dumb thing
yeah this shit isn't gonna win vs luca
I hope Fauna and Mooms talk more. Theyre the only reason im watching
>>47002533yes it absolutely is her fault if she wasn't aware that they were doing nothing for that month. If she was aware, then she is more at fault. She had no reason to trust they would get it done on time. and she shouldn't have just trusted. Now not only do they look incompetent. she does too.
>>47002813>it's okay when JP does it
>>46997926What a bunch of loser you have a 1month deadline and you start working a week from it.I would cut the pay in half and never hire these guys again.
Is the EN branch even the slightest bit cognizant of the fact that grown working adults ( the ones that fund their life) plan their day around stream times that are set in advance? I've always been envious of the fact that even the big shot J{s like Miko and Pekora have a genuine fear of pissing their fans off. The ENs just don't have that same level of respect.
>>47000903 So much cope when the kawaii girls are always prepared and on time
kronii, mori, and kiara are the loudest and i hate it here but i love fauna
>>47002985Is that before or after more than half of them walked out on the company?
>>47002733Frogs should be plump, makes them tastier
[Kaela News] Kaela is worrying over being able to communicate with Sora
Why are they like this
>12k
any sisters here tell us how this content compares to tempus collaborations? Is it the same shitshow of talking over each other and aimless disorganization?
My WifeRyS is going to steal the show during another mass collab. She is just so good at this stuff.
>>47003154>delay
>>47003154If this were Niji it'd have an instant recovery btw
early results coming in
>>47002866There are genuinely like 30 JPs and there's a chance the audience might not know one. No such thing for EN.
>>47002449Gura is what happens when you complain to EN management.>antagonistic relationship>get all your ideas rejected and approvals for projets delayed by months>become demotivated to do anything and manager doesn't care so they just ignore and ghost each other
yea, I can't watch this anymore.
>>47003227Kronii and IRyS are already having sex with each other while Kiara explains the rules.
>>47003154I feel like this was actually on pace for a somewhat normal recovery time before youtube died>>47003243Yep
>>47003211>PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE HOMOS
>>47003154Luca EN Gold against a HoloEN 7 people collab>Luca EN Gold against a HoloEN 7 people collabLuca EN Gold against a HoloEN 7 people collab
>>47003337Youtube dying for ~30 seconds really fucked the recovery up
You can tell that not even Kiara wants to be there.
>>47003243Unironically. Im 100% convinced Holo fans got flagged somehow. That relay shit probbably
>>47001062Kawaii has Nene at the helm as a great leader. Lua is alcoholic Irys without the love of keyboards it’s actually a little scary how similar they’re family and life is
[Kaela News] Kaela will try to speaking in Japanese English during the collab
man, that tiny amebee is cute as fuck
>>47003227I love CouncilIRyS chibi models more than Myth's Smol models, they just have more charm to them.
Why is a full EN collab minus Gura getting half the ccv of an average Gura stream?
The stream keeps dying for me is it like that for anyone else?
>>47003243Ask Holofags to start using VPN, then
>>47003389I wonder if it was Youtube or Kiara's PC / internet. The timing was a bit too close to stream start to be coincidental.
>>47003211>PLEASE TALK GOOD ABOUT HOMOLIVE ENGLISH I NEED TO AFIRM MY VIEWS
>>46998727My nigga this is hololive not some third rate indie vtuber stream or the barely a competition vshojo.We have 8 HoloEn here and you're okay with these low numbers...
Kaela is getting less than 2k right now, pls watch her
>>47003461Kiara’s debuff
>>47003279And then you got Mori's Myth Japan off-collab volume shit show because she's lazy to do sound check by doing simple self introduction.
>everyone talking about kiara collab>random homo discussionえ?
smol ame bee literally smol, why?
>>47003565overlap hort
>>47003376Little reason to think his bday will get more than Mysta's.
>fauna dancing around in the background>Everyone going "WOOOOAH CUUUTE">camerman isn't even fucking looking at heryeah thanks
>>47002668Yeah she is.>>47003286I feel like there isn't much that can keep them from just side-stepping EN management. Just send A-chan a message saying you're going to have a meltdown and watch them scramble.
>>47003565She’s mind numbingly boring and isn’t funny
fauna gaming
>>47000725Bae frequently overslept her streams starting later than this, if course she isn't in this
>>47003402I have tested it a year back with several other people and we were all flagged and didn't count as viewers on a 1 view's visible counter.
>>47003793Wasn't Henma usually the one doing the camera work for Ame? Not sure who handles Kiara's camera because this is her first VR collab
>She's on the ugly frog shit
Genuinely what is supposed to be exciting about this stream idea.The last few VR chat collabs have been "can we do x" no "should we do x".Oooo random camera shots of them walking around and the egg counter goes up, so fucking exciting!
>>47003839Well yeah, it's not a joke stream but serious discussion stream with focus on self-help like all her morning zatsus, these aren't mean to be funnyBut calling them boring is just silly
FAUNA SWEEP
#FaunaSweep
>>47004020>But calling them boring is just sillyKaela is one of hololive's most dry bread streamers
[Kaela News] Kaela doesn't want people to be sad when she dies
>>47003565don't worry, she will stream long enough to get all the funnel from EN. as usual
>>47004063>>47004108Fauna swee-ACK
>>47004172>Mori>44kino
>(Any advice for organizing schedule esp. while doing school and work) It all depends on priority>are you prioritizing your school or your work? because we can't do it 50/50, doesn't matter how great we are, or else nothing will get done>because whenever we talk about time management, it's all about priority. So it's not going to be 50/50 but sth like 70/30>we can go to school while working, but you have to take into account that your school will not be turn out as well as you expected, since you have to prioritize things>Say you focus on school, you have to know, and doesn't mean that you just neglect your work, but you have to understand that you'll need to sacrifice things, like break time, etc.>so doesn't mean how great you are, you still need to prioritize things>So you guys can listen to this stream, but you still need to do your work. So it's all about priority. If you have deadlines, then focus on that first.>It all depends on where your priorites lieRate Kaela's advice
>>47004133ina mogged
How many EN use body tracking for this collab?I'm late to the stream so now I'm just seeing them floating around with no extra movement.
>>47004172You said bitch?
>>47003748His countdown stream earlier got 13.2k. I will be surprised if his actual birthday stream wouldn’t be getting another few thousands
I don't fully understand this egg hunt
>>47004172> Fauna 56> Mori 44Ahem. FAUNASWEEP
>>47004295Ina actually improved from the start.In the beginning she nearly talked as little as Kaela during her streams
>>47004334None of them?
FUCKING STREAM KEEPS BUFFERING AND ALL OTHER STREAMS ARE DYING FOR ME TOO AHHHHH
>>47003601>because Gura, Ina and Ame are lazy cunts who’d rather sit on the other side of the room or literally lay on the floor than talk in a collabFixed that for you
IRyS numbers.
>>47004476FlopRyS…
>>47004461vpn to another location
[Kaela News] Her only big goal right now is making netherite beacon, it's not a joke but more seriously she doesn't set herself any big life goals since she always aims to be better each day, her grinding shit in Minecraft is just one example of this mindset
>>47004436nah, she still fucking boring. I don't get why so many people keep watching her
>>47004468And Mori still needs to do voice check
>>47004277Generic
Why can't they just play monopoly or mario party. Even when they play jackbox they play the debuff shit
>>47004476My dumb oshi’s egg is glitched
FAUNAWINS
>>47004476of course mumei is in the middle.she's always the center of attention.
irys got fucking cheated, kronii should be last
>>47004691>IRyS' eggs are dried upI can save her
>>47004476Fauna Sweep?
>Council can get a 20k box on their own>3 myth in here, even if we use their floors (2k) that should be an extra 6kWill they finally take the hint that the audience is tired of VR? I thought Bae's 16k for the halloween one would have made it obvious but apparently notinb4>ccv doesn't matterVODs are dogshit too
I rally don't like the frog suite. I find something about it irritating.
>7 people collab>less than 20kKiara...
>>47002929The EN fanbase is very milktoast.The Jp are nice too if it happen once or twice they'll let it slide and joke with it but more than that and you'll start hearing their grievance.For us tho its just a meme l, haha the freaking EN curse nothing we can do it about it.Disgusting.
Ok sorry but what the fuck is going with the CCV right now?Dropping from ~14k to ~12.8k instantly back up a thousand after a few minutes with no movement
Is there even a point anymoreFauna you cheating fuck
>>47004855Maybe she'll change the music later.
>>47004950Either Kiara's stream or Youtube is shitting itself. I've only;y buffered once since the loading screen
>>47004804I think just putting VR in the title is a debuff at this point. I find this collab more enjoyable than the April Fools one but it's not even going to get close numberwise.
where did 100k+ from Mori's new outfit go?where did 100k from Irys's new outfit go?where did 50k from Krooni's new outfit go?where did 40k from Fauna's new outfit go?where did 40k from Mumei's new outfit go?HOLOBOTS?
I have no idea why they keep on doing this VR shit. It got stale a while ago when Ame kept on spamming it.
>>47005013fauna loves the feeling of the egg
>>47005044Yeah didn't buffer for me either, otherwise i would understand it
>>47004950It's extremely unstable and also dealing with a delayed start.
[Kaela News] Kaela doesn't find life to be that bad
>>47004950I can't stop buffering... it sucks. It seems like a fun collab even with the scuff
>>47005095BOT GRAPH!
>Stream Zs>sets it to 144pwhat is yt even doing
>short buffering>suddenly 15.7kYou know I don't think I should look at YT ccv. It's fucking stupid
I love EN girls bullying Kronii
>>47005095They'll come back when EN 3 comeback too.
>>47005095Why'd Elira only get 11k?