/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>On a short period of time
Pekora, Suisei, Akirose, Kanata, Orca... collabed with males.
Is Hololive starting to give up on unicorns?

[Anonymous No.]

are you even trying newfag ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879064
These "people" think bringing up the Minecraft event is some epic own

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879184
Ironic unicorns are the worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879064
They're paid in steam gift cards pls understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
my rage will come if any holo member get to this level

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it okay to shit on Ame and Kronii over male collabs but the moment big JPs are brought up you go in full defense mode?
You /vt/rannies are such double faced rats

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879586
I also love how this board boasts about the holos who don't even acknowledge the existence of males. On schizo even use to spam Kanata as the face of anti males until the minecraft collab happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
Unicorns should all die

[Anonymous No.]

This bait does not please me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879370
Calling them ironic unicorns imply them joking about being a unicorn to mask their unironic unicorndom. These "people" are just falseflagging antis.

[Anonymous No.]

Total Unicuck Death

[Anonymous No.]

>>46880915
>t. Vshowshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879586
You see anon, 99% of people on this board don't speak japanese and don't watch holo jp, so they've fallen for cover's PR and believe that chuubas speaking moon runes are somehow better than their english equivalent

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
What's the difference between simply chatting with holostar and interacting with a chat that is 70%+ males?
It just feels disingenuous to be mad at them when by this stupid logic they're interacting with us males

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
Literal retard

[Anonymous No.]

Aahh, the vtubing unicorn. I've never seen such a pathetic group that clamors about how much they love and support their oshi but one male collab is enough to make them have mental breakdowns and go full anti. Fake fans the lot of them
>but my restaurant analogy with meat at a vegan restaur-
STFU, content creation predates the vtubing and "idol" vtubing shtick, whatever the fuck you think "GFE" is and has always been a collaborative endeavor. Hell, it's actually male dominated when you think about it. Fuck off to /a/ and stay there. Streaming and anime girls are not the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>46882569
This you?
https://streamable.com/zx0e7k

[Anonymous No.]

"Gave up" is giving them too much credit. Yagoo never "believed in" unicorns. He didn't give up on them, he never cared about them to begin with, except as some startup funds. Yagoo does not want Hololive to be a niche cult-following thing like Touhou. Yagoo wants Hololive to be mainstream. Past a certain point, unicorns do more harm than good for his goals.

Don't get me wrong. He's not some Machiavellian chessmaster genius or something either, he's just a businessman hedging bets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879586
JP chuubas didn't shit on their fans. Kronii made a bunch of promises she almost immediately did a 180 on then got EN management involved to back her up.

Kronii isn't hated because she does Homo collabs. She's hated because she dislikes Hololives culture and wants to shit on it deliberately.

"Unfortunately idol culture is a thing..."

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879982
I also love how for a week the catalog was spammed with Kanata being in a corner avoiding males even entering her camera as if it was an own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879586
No one gave a fuck when Bae collabed with the homos multiple times, or even Mori with males that aren't an extra level of objectionable like the TT crowd who're hated for reasons completely unrelated to their posession of a penis. Towa collabing with males is almost as common as her collabing with females, and Suisei has done a shit ton of male collabs in interview settings like this even if she was normally the host and not the guest. You also can't bait nearly as many easy (You)s from trolling about the JPs since their fanbase isn't as new to 4chan and know to just ignore shitposters, at least relative to the influx of newfags who make up a large chunk of the EN girl's audience. Male collabs get shitposted about when either they're a major change in behavior, or when there is extra drama around it from context; ie Kronii and her constant backpedaling and foot in mouth disease.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46883780
>There is an actual person behind the anime mask
>This is somehow a bad or incorrect thing
vtubing is purely for the money and clout. If you're too infatuated with the fake anime girl avatar to see it I don't know what to tell ya

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
Maybe if pic related ztreams more, it can be delayed

[Anonymous No.]

>>46883981
Collabing with a male at all, intentional or not, regardless of whether or not it happened on stream, is grounds enough for a vtuber to earn the "whore" status. I don't make the rules

[Anonymous No.]

>>46883780
>this is who says that vtubing will die in 5 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
Pekora had a professional collab, Suisei has never pandered to unicorns, Aki has collabed with males before and keeps it professional, Kanata sperged the fuck out and was an unprofessional cunt but also avoided males like the plague, Orca is the same as pekora. You niggas lose your goddamn minds over the tamest of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>Suisei
is trying to break as a mainstream musical artist. This is nothing new.
>Pekora, Kanata, Orca
were in some memecraft competition with big JP fleshtubers (I guess? I don't actually know them), obviously for promotional purposes, in which they talked to the other people only very briefly and then spent the rest of the time in their own team VC. OP is being massively disingenuous by implying each of them had actual full male collabs.
>Akirose
did an actual full 1on1 collab with a Holostar out of the blue where she apparently shared kind of intimate information with him (or maybe clippers are being misleading again). This is the only thing mentioned that's worth whining about, if you actually watch Aki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46884930
And yet anons here will insist "idol culture" has nothing to do with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>46885056
yeah, I doubt hardcore rose-tai care about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>46883871
He's gone on record saying how he regrets separating males and females. He always wanted to copy niji but never went through with it once the money started flowing in because of the vast girl-only content. In an alternate timeline "hololive" includes everyone, even males. Yagoo is a bigger fag than people realize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46884930
It's a false flag

[Anonymous No.]

>>46886000
It's a normal response to male collabs. Either you avoid males, protecting the sanctity of CGDCT or you don't and cuck your entire paying fanbase. That's how this works no matter how much anyone here tries to claim otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>46886268
You don't even like Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>46884930
The Kanata thing was bound to be a mess regardless, since her participation was due to miscommunication with her manger. On one hand, I agree, her behavior was odd and unprofessional towards other participants which just ended up attracting unnecessary attention her and her gachis could have certainly done without, on the other hand she upheld the promise she made to her members, which makes her a paragon of this industry by placing her word above anything else, even her own reputation. That is why larpers like OP get laughed at by actual fans, because she proved the exact opposite of what they think she did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46884930
>cuckoldry is fine as long it's JP
>cuckoldry is fine as long it's done professionally
>cuckoldry is fine as long she pretends she didn't liked it
lmao the absolute state

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
All unicorns deserve the rope

[Anonymous No.]

Extremely awful, low quality thread. OP is a fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879586
why is it always ame man
im not even a teamate but she's seriously a huge asset to hololive. she's a good girl who finally made it. she just wants everyone to get along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46884930
>, Kanata sperged the fuck out and was an unprofessional cunt
Kanata did the honorable thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46886268
The fun part about whenever the sisters decide to falseflag as unicorns is how obvious you are because you've flanderized the unicorns as being some kind of unreasonable satanic figures in your mind so you're absolutely awful at pretending to be them.

t. Unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>46887467
>which makes her a paragon of this industry by placing her word above anything else
I wouldn't go that far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46881385
>believe that chuubas speaking moon runes are somehow better than their english equivalent
That's the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>46881893
IT JUST IS OKAY?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>46881893
Wow your logic is retarded as hell.
Holostars are specific men, colleagues, who they collab with. That's people they can actually meet.
The vtuber replying to some dude in chat is irrelevant, it's a faceless being among a mass of other faceless beings that they will never meet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46888219
>>cuckoldry
>>cuckoldry
>>cuckoldry
Are you doing okay anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46881893
its jealousy because of the asymmetry
fans are equal
colleague/coworker/bf/husband gets to do more than fan can, especially behind the scenes

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
Only Suisei is the homobeggar, Akirose's was a first for her, not enough to be a homobeggar yet. While calling out Pekora, Kanata and Chole for minecraft tournament with large number of participants is like saying they can't talk to Yagoo or their male relatives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46889413
>The falseflagger will call others a falseflag
Also,
>projecting

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879586
You don't even have context
Suisei and Aki are a similar case to Bae
Pekora introduced her team because she was the leader but Sakamata and Kanata didn't talk to them
Also maybe HoloEN fans should stop doing so much tribalfagging between members of HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
I don't hate chuubas who do male collabs from time to time I hate the loud minority like the beggars and white knights of those chuubas who, unprovoked, try to take the fun out of my hobbies. I also hate spiteful western whores like Mori and Kronii, they are just as low as their antis but the difference is that they can hide behind the brand power and a flock of twitter tourists, they are ungrateful to be in this company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46888219
>posts chink whore who collabs with males every stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>46882569
Is this an AI-written post?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46889413
But he's right. You try to act like you're better than you seem, but that's genuinely how it goes with anyone who wants to call themselves a unicorn. There's a very obvious, vehement hatred of any collaboration involving any males, even in a situation where these collaborations are clearly not common. Even if only one collab with guys was ever done and then never again, people like you would assuredly exist who will never forgive the girl.

It's incredibly embarrassing. We are at the point where even in a professional collaboration, there are vtubers who would rather sit on the sidelines not doing anything at all than dare upset a specific portion of their fanbase by talking to any of the present males during the collab. There are vtubers here on /vt/ that are praised for pretending that males don't exist. That's loser shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46890003
You don't understand the word 'homobeggar'

[Anonymous No.]

>>46889525
I would. Professionality is expected, it's common, especially on the JP side of corpo entertainment. What she demonstrated by lacking professionality is a far rarer virtue, no matter how dumb of her was making that promise to begin with.
I'm not a heimin but I like Kanata enough to know that brand of stubbornness is a recurring theme with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46890732
Nah, you gotta take a stand against the female-subsidized male streamers. Otherwise it will get out of control. Cover will just keep debuting more males who have to leech off the girls and our content will be no streams > male collab > no streams.
So we have no choice but to boycott and starve out the males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891013
I think we're veering off quite a bit, but I think Cover should get off their fucking asses and release an EN3 for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46890732

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879586
Western woman unironically bad.

[Anonymous No.]

This is a lazy shitpost thread by tourists but I'm gonna give a lazy answer anyways.

Acceptable

>Some JP Homos OCCASIONALLY usually managment mandated events
>Sugita, ZUN, game devs, VAs, people of note in the otaku world basically
>Papas
>If there's some event and there's a male MC or it's some live action show like the old Japanese comedian show
>Song collabs

Not Acceptable

>EN Homofags
>E-celebs like Mori's Trash Taste fags
>Collabs just for the sake of collabing with males like Ame/Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>46890904
You can say the same about Suisei, someone who's on the other spectrum on the male collabs, but is equally stubborn and professional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46890732
Seems to me you're actually proving him right by agreeing with the falseflagger he called out for pushing that same definition of unicorns in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>46878735
>Pekora, Kanata, Orca
kys baitnigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891173
All this cope...

[Anonymous No.]

>JP Hololivers saying fuck your stupid collab expectations I'll do it with whoever I want

Based. I used to think only Fubuki was good for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46884930
>professional collab
bullshit. any male interaction means the male fucked the girl. no way around it. you fucking cucks will ignore this if it fits your narrative. cucks.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891241
And it seems that you've missed the point. There's but a single rule: NO MALES. It's not hard to understand

[Anonymous No.]

Garbage thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891471
And now you're a part of it. Congrats, retard

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not the one who gave anyone a (you).

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891458
Very hard for you to understand that nobody is obligated to listen to what you want. Cry about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
>feel aroused to see his wife being fucked by other man
Well, It is normal that some people like cuckolding.
don't get it but don't want to judge. good for (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891596
Enjoy your cuck streams then, faggot. You're part of the reason vtubing effectively died and will continue to get worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891194
Suisei has her qualities but it's not quite the same. What Kanata did was upholding a promise she did to her members no matter how bad it made her look, which I think is the first time I saw it happen in this industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891646
>He actually thinks a streamer is his wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891673
It will actually get quite better once people like you move on to a different hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891673
>Posts like this
What were you like when Rushia had her big yab

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891673
>Everything is getting worse because of the people I hate!!!
Just ignore the fact that Vtubing failed to innovate and allowed Hololive gender wars to dominate the entire industry. Blame the competition, blame the companies, blame the streamers. All these choices, and you blame some random "cucks." Do you feel better now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891723
I'd be curious to how many people unironically are members of a vtuber for genuinely entertaining they find them. Even if the vtuber in question is a unicorn they are still effectively being shared among fuckloads of other "members".

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891241
There is no definition being pushed. That is simply the consensus

[Anonymous No.]

It really amazes me that despite this being clearly a bait post people really take it like an insult. Unicorn this, Cuck that, is so tiring seeing people act like this just because of guys talking to girls. Random X vtuber wants to collab with guys? They are their own people to choose whatever they want, this also goes with their option not to collab with guys, that's fine too.
It really feels like I am in highschool again where kids fight over dumb shit and teenager girls gossip like crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46881893
Holostars are actually better than other males. Holostars (especially the JP ones) know the rules and stay in bounds, don't try to flirt or do anything that will get them a flood of antis. It's the other males who collab without knowing the rules of engagement who are a bigger threat. A random schizo male fan going out and raping your oshi is more likely to happen than a Holostar fucking your oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>even /vt/ turning on unicorns
rumao, I never expected to see this day. 3-4 years ago the idea of males in vtubing was unthinkable and now here we are, I can't wait to see where we will be in 4 more years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892366
It will continue so long as they keep getting attention I think. Or giftcards.

[Anonymous No.]

Unifags are stupid. Idol rules mean no bf/gf, not no breathing the same air as people of the opposite sex. If (You) ever thought that was the standard you need to actually learn some Nihongo and pay more attention to how Japanese culture works, instead of listening to the basket weaving forum's fanfiction on how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892431
Ironic you post kronii, unicorns held so tightly to that man hating dyke rrat that it blew up so hard in their ass. Seeing those kronies still seethe about it is always fun to see. Never take anything said here so seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892515
This
Though that's already too hard it seems

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892441
Ah yes it always has to be some deflection to discredit concerns with you people right?
Then I'll play the same game. Homobeggar shipcuck fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892515
The only people complaining about male collabs are false flaggers. Unicorns only hate Mori and Kronii because they both disrespect Hololive and their audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892685
Getting mad won't change a thing anon, just go watch some Yuri and calm the fuck down

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
>investors give more money than unicorns do
it's the most reasonable explanation, they don't need your asses any more

[Anonymous No.]

>schizo and falseflagger circlejerk thread
What an embarrassment you people are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892515
Vtubers are not the same as idols and they're also not the same as anime. They work on similar but not not necessarily the same rules. Since hololive in particular started out and sold itself as an "idol" vtuber company, they still fall into idol rules. But since streaming is its own medium and is usually just one person streaming, collabs feel all the more special. And because Hololive was girls only for a long time, the standard of not having male collabs was established. When male collabs do happen it shatters the idol aspect of it, which is the only thing that gives hololive its edge in a sea of failed ethots. Why are we vilified for trying to protect that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892799
That's every thread tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892710
Those aren't unicorns, those are idolfags. Unicorns hate mori and kronii for different reasons

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892823
In Japan even some normal streamers tell their fans they won't get a boyfriend/girlfriend, it's a cultural thing where being in a relation means you won't care about your fans anymore.
For example Pekora's roommate was already saying she won't be streaming if she had a boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

I think "unicorns" have a simple bottom line.
gfe is ok, yuri is ok
just don't collab with male
That is a simpler request. but no, just put a dick in their throat.
people who hate it and leave.
BLAMEthe onewho leaves: unicorns

>unicorns are the worse
whore logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892431
There totally were male vtubers back them??? ~4 years ago the main bunch were JP indies and young corpos and they all just had dumb fun. No one even thought about "males" or "females". They were just streamers having fun and singing. This unicorn dumb stuff came after holo gen 4 debuted. I blame them for this shitfest and ironic /v/tard weebs like you that started watching and spewing epic unicorn shit to fit in with /jp/ "I'm gonna totally travel to japan one day to marry a waifu, no one accepts me where I live :((" subhumans. Cringe beyond belief. Your ilk is like those BBC/log spammers on /b/, you started out ironically only to end up liking and believing what you spam. Absolute retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46893177
what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879562
>fucked each other until she passes out
kyo must have a big dig

[Anonymous No.]

>>46890732
Nah that's based.
I don't watch vtubers to see them interact with men on stream. Do that behind the scenes, whatever, keep my streams cgdct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
>pekora
didn't pay for a "mom" and a " brother" lol
>suisei
>idol
>akirose
tranny identity
>kanata
rape victim
>orca
stinky whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892431
The only turning on unicorns are homobeggars like you, don't pretend it's a whole board thing retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
If Cover is serious about expanding, purging unicorns is the only way to do it. Unicorns are just antis waiting to happen and are statistically proven not even pay for shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879586
because Ame and Kronii shit on their fans, and their conduct makes it pretty obvious that they do not care for Hololive as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891173
>muh it's ok when jp does it

[Anonymous No.]

>>46888219
I was trying to make a with with Selen's fanbase name but completely forgot what it was. I can only think of them as "Selenposters" now.
You guys have zero mindshare here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46891791
I'd get where your confidence came from if you represented a majority of meaningful contributors to the hobby, but most of you people who vilify unicorns have never spent a dime on hololive and probably never will. Wishing for unicorns to leave the hobby is the equivalent of wishing for the hobby to die, because most of you won't step up to make up for the lost earnings. I'm 99% confident about that and give you a 1% vote of confidence that magically you pull through and actually put the money where your mouth is. And no, we're not talking membership, that's weak shit. We're talking 100-1000 dollars a month drained into your oshi, because that's how much unicorns and occasional holopro believers have to carry the hobby by themselves while earning trash talk from poor fags for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46894950
this but unironically
should've been born in a better country you fucking whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892427
That's just delusional. Schizo fan attacks are extremely rare, while celebrities and coworkers dating each other is extremely common, and if they date then the chance of getting raped/abused/murdered skyrockets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46895155
says the guy trying to conflate gachkoi (actual paying customers) to unicorns (who contribute nothing but one sided expectations andseethe).

[Anonymous No.]

>>46893177
Unicorns are just normal fans who bother to speak up and say they're gonna lose interest if a bunch of males take over the scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
KYS nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>46892431
Obviously a loud minority is going to establish itself after the major companies debuted like 30 males.

[Anonymous No.]

Man SEA hour threads be fucking wild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46884334
You evidently do, considering you just pulled that out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46895155
I have spent about $300 total in merch / tickets actually, most recently from the Our Bright Parade online store. I am also tier 2 membership for my oshi.

You're right I'm not going to spend up-to a thousand dollars a month though, wtf. I think anyone who is spending that kind of money isnt going to suddenly dissappear because of a collab. Kek I've seen unicorns donate in Argentinian currency before. You're just as cheap as anyone else, the only thing that makes unicorns special is their sense of entitlement.

Lastly, you're also neglecting the cash cow that is tempus and their oil-baroness'. Some of the boys are already outperforming some of the girls this year. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46878735
Unicorns should improve themselves!

[Anonymous No.]

>>46893583
well he is black after all :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>46896164
A think i don't understand here is that you thrash "unicorn" but you put the "oil baroness" on a piedestral, while ignoring the fact that the most mehera "unicorn" pale in comparaison of one sis going ape shit over anything, and how that anything is literaly the most random shit compared to a "unicorn". Also you are comparing girls after 1/2 years and boys who just debuted. So basicaly outside your reddit spacing, your are just spouting ilogical shit together and expect nobody will pickup the whole retardation of your arguments so IDK, KYS fag is about anything you could do here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46889777
That still doesn't answer of Why does it matter?
Regardless what schizos say, they're fucking, for the most part they're just chatting online, not even in person
Again this is just disingenuous

[Anonymous No.]

>>46895361
You wish homotroonfuckbegging whore, if anything filth like you are turning Holo into Nijisanji-lite

[Anonymous No.]

"Gachi Koi Nenchakujuu" Great manga, all of you fags need to read this would show you the mentality of a parasocial nutjob stan. Really lets you understand who you're dealing with on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46879982
>>46888325
>>46890732
>>46891343
>>46892431
>>46896164
>>46895237
>>46882569
So true, my fellow “sisters”! I can’t wait to jerk off my girlcock to Vox’s rape asmr by the way, the thought of it is already making my soon to be axewound so wet!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>46888219
bro has never even held hands with a woman and is whining about getting cucked
You are focusing on the wrong issues, retardanon.