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>Princess connect
Flop
>Sakura War
Flop
>Morbius
Flop
>Babylon's fall
Flop
Yup, Hololive is a brand risk, I can see why their revenue is lower than Nijisanji.

>> No.46299445

>>46299323
>Hololive makes money and then the shit media they collabed with dies
I see no issue with this.

>> No.46299599

Hololive revenue is higher than nijisanji. The chart you keep posting is a projection of where nijisanji thinks their income will be in 2023, which is why it has Q2 and Q3 on there, when we are in Q1.

>> No.46299605
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>>46299323
You dropped this, king
https://twitter.com/priconne_en/status/1483846747021402114

>> No.46299646

>>46299323
>Amogus

>> No.46299678

>>46299323
>Babylon's Fall
Hololive was just trying to be a saviourfag for that piece of DOA

>> No.46299688

>>46299605
OP mogged

>> No.46299732

>>46299605
hiring holo girls are much expensive, but im sure tencent will give cheap or free endorsement

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>>46299605
They overpaid Hololive tho.

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Nijibros....

>> No.46300080

They never even added the Holo girls to Pricon. Literally just a sponsored stream and a song (not even in the game). Worthless.

>> No.46300143

>>46299323
WTFFFFFFFFFFF
NOT PRINCESS CONNECT
WHYY
THIS IS THE ONE GACHA I WANTED TO WHALE WHEN I MADE MONEY

>> No.46300167

I thought it's already a known golden rule that you should not play the English / Global version of ANY Japanese mobage especially the smaller titles like this, for they will eventually end services within 2-4 years if not sooner.

>> No.46300197

>>46300167
On top of it being Crunchyroll published. Surprised it lasted two years.

>> No.46300226

>>46299323
is this fool talking shit about morbius?

>> No.46300261

>>46300226
It's flop like your mom saggy tits.

>> No.46300295
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Gacha games are massive risks, ESPECIALLY localized ones. also
>Priconne
on its way out
>sakura war
was an absolute disaster, even Marine/Miko felt wrong
>morbius
what
>Babylon's fall
huh?

>> No.46300322

>>46299323
>Curry Meshi is doing just fine
Skill issue

>> No.46300350

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2023/03/30-1/feature-what-happens-when-a-game-you-love-goes-away
holy kek
they even had the audacity to publish that article the same day they announce EoS

>> No.46300361

>>46300167
>I thought it's already a known golden rule that you should not play ANY mobage
ftfy

>> No.46300378

>>46299605
>Using soulless default poses.
Great collab here.

>> No.46300423

>>46300143
Just play the JP version anon

>> No.46300446

>>46299761
So the Niji collab did nothing

>> No.46300451

>>46299323
>Precon
Global version was already falling apart and the 2nd season flopping sealed the deal.
>Babylon's Fall
It was already doomed from the start.
>Sakura War & Morbius
Literally who? That's what I thought.

>> No.46300456

>>46299761
>Overpaid
They got those high returns because of Hololive when it started and was able to continue for two years. Then they collabed with Niji and what did it become? Dead in the waters

>> No.46300480

>shilled BA several times
>BA is one of the strongest gachas in the west to date

>> No.46300547

>>46300451
>Didn't know about Sakura war
Do you know that 18+ is allow to post here?

>> No.46300593

>>46299323
You forgot to add
>Diablo Immortal
Flop

>> No.46300705

>>46300350
>A lot of live-service games are in the midst of shutting down. It’s an issue that doesn’t really have an easy answer, especially when it comes to preservation. Yet it’s something that’s important to think about. Even though a lot of these games are going to go away one day, you’ve got to cherish the moments you have with them and hope you can enjoy the memories they created for you when you look back on these games years later.
It's mildly infuriating to see someone realize and acknowledge the problem, and somehow come to the conclusion that all he can do is keep supporting the process that make the dead games an inevitability.

>> No.46300944

>>46299323
What about that one with the Gawr Boost Drink? Is that game still alive?

>> No.46301036

>>46299323
>Hololive collabs with Nijisanji
Nijisanji flops

>> No.46301122

>>46299761
Oh nononono nijisis the thread was supposed to make fun of hololive

>> No.46301175

>>46299445
Hololive has made deals with several gacha but Princess Connect was the first major sponsorship for holoEN. Of all the sponsorships it might have been the most profitable at least until Counterside began selling $46 Myth skins.

>> No.46301187

>>46299761
>>46299773
how the fuck did it not even move with the Niji collabs wtf?

>> No.46301238

>>46300295
>>46299323
Sakura wars fucked up royally the instant they played the voices and they sounded nothing like them, it was so fucking weird that i can't forget that moment

>> No.46301280

>>46299323
I thought Princesses Connect was mega popular, at least based on the amount of H fan art

>> No.46301298

As someone who used to play a lot of gacha, Hololive is the anti-gacha. You discover them and spend more of your time watching Holos instead of playing gacha games. I abandoned by first day Azur lane account after learning more about Hololive.

>> No.46301329

>>46299323
Azur Lane still live
Your entire argument just got disproved

>> No.46301353

>>46301187
no one outside /vt/ gives a shit about nijisanji

>> No.46301378

>>46301238
Did Sakura Wars even have any of the old characters?

>> No.46301419

>>46299323
>Shitty gachas collab with vtubers
Lmao
>Gfl collabs with venezuelan indie games and kino old properties
SOVL

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>>46299323
>morbius
>memed by everyone
>rerelease into theaters
>grossed morbillions
how is that a failure?

>> No.46301451

>>46301280
Crunchyroll isn't interested in long term support of anything. Revenue is always a bit front-loaded with global releases, so the business model is based on quickly getting that and then letting it go

>> No.46301490
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Not so fast OP, Cover is inclining rapidly lately.
WE'RE MOONBOUND, IT'S TIME.

>> No.46301533

>>46301490
>still 5k yen behind
Pffft!

>> No.46301549

>>46300593
Do you guys not have friends of the opposite sex phones?

>> No.46301604

>>46301329
where my 2nd collab...
I will never forgive Coco for that

>> No.46301618

>>46301419
gfl makes like no money but the devs will never shut it down, truly a passion project

>> No.46301730

>>46299605
OH SHIT

>> No.46301737

>>46300295
who in their right mind hired Hideo fucking Baba to write for their game? everything he touches turn to shit!

>> No.46301775

>>46301419
King Chong is the only good zhang

>> No.46301794

Crunchyroll genuinely picked the funniest time to announce EoS
>Last day of the monthly clan battle
>hours before one of the main girls pecorine's birthday
>close enough to april fools to make some people think it might just be a really shitty joke
>the same day they post an article about what happens when your favorite live service game ends

>> No.46301823

>Another bait thread by a no life nijifag
moving on.

>> No.46301961

>>46299773
>>46301187
Anon before you get too much into comparing the NijiEN collab remember that holoEN did a shill collab for Princess Connect in September of 2022. That chart follows the age old tradition of cherry picking data.

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>it's actually pecover
damn, i really liked the game
i will miss peco peco

>> No.46302241

>>46299323
>No PC version
>Chruncyroll
LoL

>> No.46302273

so, it's just the EN server dying as usual right?

>> No.46302292

>>46301961
And the chart originated in the vulture's nest of /#/ desperately trying to own le nijifags
>>46299683

OP beat them to the punch while they despertely wanted to spin a narrative on this to defame nijisanji lmao

>> No.46302495

>>Raid Shadow Legends
Flop?

>> No.46302525

>>46301280
It has no presence outside japan desu, besides Blue Archive kinda stole its thunder. The same game, just with better visuals and waifus.

>> No.46302691

>>46299323
It's stagnant
Pole position still Kancolle
Even aiges or umamusume drop so hard
Re: zero game coming up next month

>> No.46302993

>>46302691
>Pole position still Kancolle
How did Tanaka do it?

>> No.46303089

>>46302292
This will be ignored. Meanwhile, another bait thread has been made with that image.

>> No.46303223

>>46302993
they're like the Hololive of mobages; isolated in its own "box" immune to outside influences.

>> No.46303353

>>46302993
Unironically by totally ignoring the overseas market

>> No.46303584

>>46299323
you can also say that about the P5 collabs anon, a lot of gachas with P5 collabs have died.

>> No.46303659

>>46299323
Azur Lane?

>> No.46303793

>>46300593
Hate to tell you but it's make good revenue.

>> No.46303867

>>46303793
Sorry to tell you this but the money go to tencent now since they cut ties with Blizzard.

>> No.46303953

>>46302993
It's been on life support for years. It barely has content.

>> No.46304209

>>46301961
>>46301961
>>46303089
>holoEN did a shill collab for Princess Connect in September of 2022.
kek, you made me check. good troll

>> No.46304447

>>46299323
Thank God I dropped that game a few months in. I used to know people who whaled the fuck out of it.

>> No.46305481

hololive could've unironically netted arknights collab if not for the taiwan yab...

>> No.46305778

>>46304209
Lol, someone falls for it on the other thread

>> No.46305923

>>46305481
They did newfag.
https://youtu.be/9-Tu2SCXlSU

>> No.46305958

Holo can only advertise games they can't turn shit games into a good one.

>> No.46306204

>>46300705
If you play gacha you deserve it. It's equivalent to complaining that your favorite croupier at the blackjack table got fired.

>> No.46306311
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meanwhile, NijiGODs...

>> No.46306352

>>46299323
Hololive, please touch OP's mom

>> No.46306426

>>46303867
I'd rather zhangs get money than tranny enablers

>> No.46307430

>>46299323
That will convince them

>> No.46307521

HOLOLIVE PLEASE GET RAID SHADOW LEGENDS SPONSOR
KILL THEM FOR GOOD

>> No.46307645

>>46306311
Jesus

>> No.46307650

>>46299605
holy fucking KEK

>> No.46307664

>>46307521
Unlikely I think raid is owned by a Chinese company

>> No.46307687

>>46299605
RUMAO

>> No.46307743
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>>46299323
Azur lane is dying too...thanks Hololive

>> No.46307895

>>46307521
>>46307664
Magni from holostars got a sponsorship for it.
Yeah, hololive != holostars, but if a company under holopro can get the perms, surely the other can too. Assuming holoEN management is competent enough.

>> No.46307980

>>46307743
Isn't that just Chinese censorships being Chinese censorships?

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>>46307743
In the post itself shows that it's the chinese fucking themselves?

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>>46307980
>>46308137
It's show Hololive flop mojo is real, scroll up and see how many franchise that Hololive touches died.

>> No.46308480

>>46308405
Learn English first, moron! No wonder you can't understand anything in that post

>> No.46308550

>>46308480
SEA board. Look what I am saying is that franchises that sponsored Hololive are cursed.

>> No.46308558

>>46308405
It's show chinese branch killed itself is real, check the archives and see how many lies that Hololive gave died.

>> No.46308957

>>46308558
Holy ESL.

>> No.46309091

>>46308405
Both Hololive and Azur Lane gained (relative) huge amounts of popularity after the collab, I don't know if it's just a coincidence or if the collab helped but it seems like the audiences crossed over very well from it. Then the Taiwan shit happened and they had to cut ties, it's a shame because it probably could have had a second collab, Marine played it a few times and she seemed like a good candidate for one of the next collab characters due to her matching the game's theme.
Overall the collab definitely did more good than harm, and no AL isn't anywhere close to EOS.

>> No.46309451

>>46299323
More like princess connect sunk money on fucking anime

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Looks like it was all Crunchyroll's doing

>> No.46310006

>>46300705
It's reality. Nothing lasts forever. Like vtubers for example.

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>>46299323

>> No.46312187

>>46299323
What about this?
https://twitter.com/vconnect_en/status/1641656245651394563/photo/1

>> No.46312297

>>46301794
The date was probably decided by the Japanese overlords and they had to announce it 30 days before the closure

>> No.46312613

>>46299323
Glad I dropped Priconne, I'd be upset otherwise if I poured as much time into it as I initially did. Enjoying Blue Archive so much more.

>> No.46312858

Hololive collab in Nikke when?

>> No.46313334

>>46299605
OHNONONONNONONONO OP STATUS?

>> No.46313384

>>46299323
>Princess connect
crunchyroll's fault
>Sakura War
SEGA is brain dead incompetent, literally being carried by sonic autist and yakuza fags
>Morbius
no one had high expectations for a non main line marvel movie, especially since dog shit like the thor movies or nig panther
>Babylon's fall
doomed from the start

>> No.46313490

>>46309742
That street fighter game had fixed/rigged gacha pulls for banners. First SSR in 5 x10 pulls and the second comes after 15 x10 pulls or something like that. They had a discord channel for high spenders only where they got to see patch notes and changes a week or so in advance.
CrunchyRoll should just be banned from ever touching gacha games, they managed to kill a strong franchise like Priconne in the west.

>> No.46313613

>>46313384
Wasn’t Sakura war more on delightworks thinking they were hot shit cause FGO is such a huge success?

>> No.46313765

>>46305923
i meant actual ingame collab like holos as operators

>> No.46313966

>>46313384
Yeah, they all have one thing in common tho which is sponsoring Hololive. Which is very abnormal if you think about it.

>> No.46313990

Main thing I remember about the Sakura game was even those who were used to gacha games were astounded at how greedy the that game's gacha and pity system was. Only something series whales would tolerate, dolphins were slaughtered by the thousands before even touching the game.

>> No.46314300

>>46313613
it was a snow ball of bad decisions

>> No.46314400

>>46313966
>sponsoring hololive
That's... that's not how it works.

>> No.46314422

>>46307743
Nah this was some shitty clone's company got butthurt and screeched at the CCP Internet Police again. Last time it happened was Arkniggers mass reported the game.

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>>46299323
Granblue Fantasy next on line

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>>46314700
Nah bro, this is the next victim

>> No.46314821

>>46301187
They only spend money on Milord blowjob ASMR

>> No.46314864

>>46314795
Thats not even out and its already dead. People were expecting l4D with dinosaurs or maybe EDF but got Overwatch instead.

>> No.46314940

>>46314864
It's a +1 kda to Hololive's flop mojo curse

>> No.46315016

>>46314795
NO NO NO NO NO I PRE-ORDERED THE GAME

>> No.46315098

>>46299323
>talk about graduations
>schizo/anti threads
>coomer threads
>holo vs niji flamewars
>"x actually saw a male (it was her dad); what a whore"
>"why doesnt x stream?"

Is there actually a reason to come here if you love vtubing?

>> No.46315156

>>46301961
>holoEN did a shill collab for Princess Connect in September of 2022
Where? Cant see anything besides their first collab 2 years ago

>> No.46315232

>>46315098
...soft core porn?

>> No.46315301

>>46301378
iirc they explicitly said they didn't want to add any of the old Sakura Wars characters.
Hell, the game didn't even have any mechas. The characters had extended mechanic limbs instead.
And the gameplay was just FGO.

>> No.46315325

>>46315098
>x actually saw a male (it was her dad); what a whore
Who?

>> No.46315348

>>46315098
That AI art thread seems pretty calm so I just silently lurk there

>> No.46315867

I like how OP forgot that Valkyrie Connect saw such a surge in players and good feedback on the Hololive collab that there were talks of a second one a week after the first collab launched.
Then they reran the collab, buffed the four characters (Kiara, Ina Laplus, and Pekora) and have said one of the four new characters will have a stream of the game very soon.

>> No.46320223

>>46307743
>Azur lane is dying too
I shouldve seen that coming

>> No.46321129

>Mori hasn't killed Persona

One fucking job.

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>>46302993
Counterintuitively enough, it's NOT gacha. That in itself is a major factor. Plus, there's an actual strategy game under the hood for better or worse.

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>>46307743
the CN version has always been shafted (ironically enough). I wouldn't be surprised if they even use vpn and just play the JP/Global version at this point.

>> No.46321719

>>46314864
I dont know what drugs they were injecting into their veins when they made it a pvp game

>> No.46321959

>>46314940
I admire you for sticking to this gimmick no matter how retarded it makes you look, anon.

>> No.46321960

>crunchyroll is infamous for killing every single one of its games after a year, they even killed a game after 4 months
>uhhhh actually it was uhhhhhh HOLOLIVE!!!! IT WAS THEM ALL THEM!!!
meds, overdose on them

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>>46299323
Ah yes, the "everyone who drank dihydrogen oxide will eventually die" - kind of bigbrain argument

>> No.46322855

Hololive tanked morbius. Believable.

>> No.46322963

>>46299323
Kiara collab with NijiCN! NijiCN is dead soon! Rejoice!

>> No.46324044

>>46321960
What games have they done this enough?

>>46321327
RNG Simulator is not strategy

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