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Why does such a perfect woman trail her gen-mates so far in subs? Too many racist JOPs? People afraid of a holo who's a real lesbian and not just faking it? Her lack of reliance on sex appeal or screwball comedy? Too complex to be captured properly by clippers?

>> No.4622018

Actual lesbian. Also panders to paypigs. I've seen how she treats her chat, and it's absolutely cringe. Her saying "You're really cute for worrying about me losing my items in Minecraft" For like a full minute giggling and complimenting the audience as if they were a single person. She shines sometimes but overall her position is deserved.

>> No.4622038

She has good JoP following she just lacks the EoP subs to catch up

>> No.4622074
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4622074

>>4622038
She has the most EOPs in her gen.

>> No.4622122

>>4622074
im not looking

>> No.4622132

>>4622018
>Actual lesbian
migo

>> No.4622139

>>4622122
>ignoring facts

>> No.4622169

>>4621862
The other girls outshine her too much, and being gay is not a personality trait.

>> No.4622192

>>4621862
Sankisei is just that good

>> No.4622196

>>4621862
Sauce? I havent followed this twitter account in a while and I'm pretty sure this Flare one is new

>> No.4622224

>>4621862
I forget she exists, then I Noel and I remember part of her weird college style outfit was made by someone else. Then I remember flare.

>> No.4622227

>>4622132
>migo
>He lacks the critical information

>> No.4622278

>>4622132
lol

>> No.4622295

>>4622196
https://twitter.com/tanakataroukami/status/1325638655101186048

>> No.4622340

>>4622074
>Izuru
>N/A
GO NATIONALIST GO

>> No.4622352

>>4621862
>holo who's a real lesbian
There are no lesbians in Hololive, /u/schizos

>> No.4622389

>>4622074
Nice to see my headcanon about Amelia was right. I always thought she had little JP fans, as I've never seen a JP Amelia profile pic.
But Ollie surprises me, with her knowing Japanese I thought she would have more.

>> No.4622402

She doesn't really have a gimmick like the others I feel, that differentiates them all.
She's kinda like the Mio of third gen I feel

>> No.4622419

>>4622074
> Haato has a mostly non JP audience
> live viewership numbers were pretty low for her English stream earlier
Is this just the curse of streaming at the same time as Gura + at a time that is bad for Europeans?

>> No.4622428

>>4621862
Because she's a fucking lesbian. Not to mention she has the nerve to act like she likes her male fans. Fuck off.

>> No.4622447

>>4622419
Low by her standards*. I am sure most streamers would murder to have 5k+ live viewers

>> No.4622584

>>4621862
People love the GFE and Flare doesn't provide.

>> No.4622591

>>4622419
Haato is fluent enough in English that her English stream doesn't seem to be difficult to pull off to be an interesting stream...

>> No.4622610 [DELETED] 

スタヌ「金玉の裏見たらもこういたって何すかあれ?」
もこう「俺もわからん」
スタヌ「本人もわかんないの!?めっちゃコメント言われるから何が元なんだろうって訊きたかったんだよね」
もこう「なんか金玉の裏にもこうがいる・・・」
スタヌ「でもシャワー浴びた時見たけどいなかったよもこうさん」
もこう「あ、マジか!いない人もいるんだ、大抵の人はいるって聞いてるんだけど」
スタヌ「あ、大抵いるんか、金玉の裏に」
スタヌ「金玉の裏見たらもこういたって何すかあれ?」
もこう「俺もわからん」
スタヌ「本人もわかんないの!?めっちゃコメント言われるから何が元なんだろうって訊きたかったんだよね」
もこう「なんか金玉の裏にもこうがいる・・・」
スタヌ「でもシャワー浴びた時見たけどいなかったよもこうさん」
もこう「あ、マジか!いない人もいるんだ、大抵の人はいるって聞いてるんだけど」
スタヌ「あ、大抵いるんか、金玉の裏に」スタヌ「金玉の裏見たらもこういたって何すかあれ?」
もこう「俺もわからん」
スタヌ「本人もわかんないの!?めっちゃコメント言われるから何が元なんだろうって訊きたかったんだよね」
もこう「なんか金玉の裏にもこうがいる・・・」
スタヌ「でもシャワー浴びた時見たけどいなかったよもこうさん」
もこう「あ、マジか!いない人もいるんだ、大抵の人はいるって聞いてるんだけど」
スタヌ「あ、大抵いるんか、金玉の裏に」
スタヌ「金玉の裏見たらもこういたって何すかあれ?」
もこう「俺もわからん」
スタヌ「本人もわかんないの!?めっちゃコメント言われるから何が元なんだろうって訊きたかったんだよね」
もこう「なんか金玉の裏にもこうがいる・・・」
スタヌ「でもシャワー浴びた時見たけどいなかったよもこうさん」
もこう「あ、マジか!いない人もいるんだ、大抵の人はいるって聞いてるんだけど」
スタヌ「あ、大抵いるんか、金玉の裏に」
スタヌ「金玉の裏見たらもこういたって何すかあれ?」
もこう「俺もわからん」
スタヌ「本人もわかんないの!?めっちゃコメント言われるから何が元なんだろうって訊きたかったんだよね」
もこう「なんか金玉の裏にもこうがいる・・・」
スタヌ「でもシャワー浴びた時見たけどいなかったよもこうさん」
もこう「あ、マジか!いない人もいるんだ、大抵の人はいるって聞いてるんだけど」
スタヌ「あ、大抵いるんか、金玉の裏に」
スタヌ「金玉の裏見たらもこういたって何すかあれ?」
もこう「俺もわからん」
スタヌ「本人もわかんないの!?めっちゃコメント言われるから何が元なんだろうって訊きたかったんだよね」
もこう「なんか金玉の裏にもこうがいる・・・」
スタヌ「でもシャワー浴びた時見たけどいなかったよもこうさん」
もこう「あ、マジか!いない人もいるんだ、大抵の人はいるって聞いてるんだけど」
スタヌ「あ、大抵いるんか、金玉の裏に」
スタヌ「金玉の裏見たらもこういたって何すかあれ?」
もこう「俺もわからん」
スタヌ「本人もわかんないの!?めっちゃコメント言われるから何が元なんだろうって訊きたかったんだよね」
もこう「なんか金玉の裏にもこうがいる・・・」
スタヌ「でもシャワー浴びた時見たけどいなかったよもこうさん」
もこう「あ、マジか!いない人もいるんだ、大抵の人はいるって聞いてるんだけど」
スタヌ「あ、大抵いるんか、金玉の裏に」
スタヌ「金玉の裏見たらもこういたって何すかあれ?」
もこう「俺もわからん」
スタヌ「本人もわかんないの!?めっちゃコメント言われるから何が元なんだろうって訊きたかったんだよね」
もこう「なんか金玉の裏にもこうがいる・・・」
スタヌ「でもシャワー浴びた時見たけどいなかったよもこうさん」
もこう「あ、マジか!いない人もいるんだ、大抵の人はいるって聞いてるんだけど」
スタヌ「あ、大抵いるんか、金玉の裏に」

>> No.4622636
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4622636

>>4622447
I have a buddy who streams, entertaining and is consistent. Has never cracked 7 viewers. Its insanely depressing out there.

>> No.4622648 [DELETED] 

>>4622419
It was just a chat stream I'm pretty sure she can get at least 14+ if she did something interesting.

>> No.4622710

>>4621862
>get curious about her
>look at channel uploads
>the exact same generic stream topics as everyone else
>go watch someone else

>> No.4622780

>>4621862

i pitywatched her before she started doing these collabs with Fubuki to boost her numbers. always thought it was a mix of her being a drak elf and having a deeper voice that put people of. didnt think she was a particularly great streamer, every gen has a runt. but she did not strike me as the worst. always thought this whole lesbian thing was a joke tho.

>> No.4622781

>>4622389
Ollie is pretty much an honorary EN gen 1.5.

>> No.4622782

>>4622636
But single digit viewer streams are the comfiest.

>> No.4622783

>>4622636
>he

>> No.4622806

>>4622591
It was still her 1st English stream in a couple months (discounting the unarchived karaoke).

>> No.4622845

>>4622782
Not for the streamer.

>> No.4623047

>>4621862
Without much subs she earn much better than haachama, this is the correct way of vtubing

>> No.4623553

>>4621862
Because Flare is a bro thus hits more Holostars style stream feel.
Also weak people that avoid the cute half-elf as her womb gets a daily smashing by Danchous massive mace.

>> No.4623685

>>4621862
I checked her Danganronpa V3 stream after not checking her for a while and I can understand why she doesn't please everyone. Despite being energetic, Flare doesn't show that much personality on her streams

>> No.4626336

>>4622780

She's so gay the thought of a listener's unrequited crush being a different gender never even occurred to her

>> No.4626385

>>4622584
>he doesn't know

>> No.4626698

>>4622018
this behavior describes 90% of holos

>> No.4626835

>>4626698
Who are the 10% ?

>> No.4626849

>>4621862
>a holo who's a real lesbian and not just faking it?
anon...

>> No.4626884

>>4621862
because she's half-black

>> No.4626922

>>4621862
Dark elf is niche fetish be but who love it are rich. Check her super chat.

>> No.4627036

>>4621862
High wife appeal. Low zoomer appeal.

>> No.4627150

>>4622636
It be like that

>> No.4627229
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4627229

>>4621862
Why would anyone be put off by her being an actual lesbian. I'd give my right arm to watch her eat out Noel.

>> No.4627263

>>4621862
I dunno I feel like her number of subs and live viewers is kinda optimal. I know this board has a bad case of numberfagging but far too large size tends to mean more apeshit chat and fanbase, while if it's far too small you feel sorry for the chuuba.

>> No.4627287

>>4621862
? Subs aren't the only number that matters. Pretty sure she earns pretty comfortably in supas. Dark elf fetish is like furry, it's the pleasure of the wealthy.

>> No.4627310

She's not quirky enough for the average clipfag. They only know her as "the lesbian" because they don't actually watch her streams.

>> No.4627421

>>4621862
Just like suisei and towa some people just dont like her voice

>> No.4627622

>>4621862
Blame Mundus

>> No.4627673

>>4621862
I keep thinking about it. She's relatively masculine. Tomboyish when just about everyone else is at least decently feminine.

>> No.4627695

>>4627622
THE VOICES

>> No.4627754

dyke gets the rope

>> No.4627797

>>4622074
>Temma 12th and Astel 13th
Based eigo knight and american alien.

>> No.4627829

She used to be fun and dorky in her own special way but started to do too much cutesy shit. Now it's just needy annoying gf and cat noises without any gap.

>> No.4627899

>>4621862
It's completely unjust to compare Flare to her gen-mates that are absolute monsters in their field. She's literally not as entertainment compared to the others, and I'm being very generous here, I could just say she is boring as fuck, but her GTA V streams were fun.

>> No.4627901

>>4621862
She isn't more popular because people doesn't watch her, Korone has been on hiatus so I tuned her often because she streams in the EU evening timezone and she's amazing, I can't believe that I've been watching Hololive for 2 years and only started regularly watching her this month, I've been missing real kino

>> No.4628150

>>4627901
>She isn't more popular because people doesn't watch her

did you stop to think that if more people watched that would be the definiton of beiong more popular?

>> No.4628370

>>4628150
Sorry ESL here, I meant at least give her an opportunity

>> No.4628730

>>4622428
god damn kiara

>> No.4628851
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4628851

she's alright but I dislike shippers and ship pandering

>> No.4629012

>>4627901
She really is, I watch her a lot since her streams are perfect for EU time.

>> No.4629046

Constantly shadowbanned after debut due to exposed cleavage. Her original face was weird and not attractive at all.

>> No.4629086

>>4622074
Based autist

>> No.4629089

>>4629046
The rigger really fucked her. She even stated IN ENGLISH on reddit that she didn't like the face on her original model.
What's really sad is that the face on her 3D model is based on her old model's face.

>> No.4629449

Paizuri from Flare, Noel, or Marine?

>> No.4629490

>>4629449
Yes

>> No.4629499

>>4629449
Marine is too small lmao

>> No.4629500

>>4629449
Yes

>> No.4629566

>>4629449
trick question; paizuri from flare, noel AND marine

>> No.4629633
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4629633

>>4629449
Paizuri from Flare while Marine and Noel watch. That'll turn it into an orgy within minutes.

>> No.4629842

>>4621862
>real lesbian
>OP is unaware
Her dream spouse is literally sans, anon...

>> No.4629865

>>4629842
It just means she likes to be boned.

>> No.4629891

>>4622018
>Actual lesbian.
Pretty sure she's just "Male-averse".
>>4622227
Bird's a fucking liar.

>> No.4629939 [DELETED] 

>>4622419
The overused the schizo gimmicks

>> No.4630021

>>4621862
The most “normal” person in a generation of crazies and degenerates.
>lesbian
That’s you, anon. You ARE the lesbian and have a strange lust for lies and rats. Also, easily fooled by management mandated crap.
It’s obvious that Flare is at odds with her character.

>> No.4630056

>>4630021
There is no degenerate in gen 3. They are all pure.

>> No.4630081

>>4630056
Whom exactly are you trying to fool here

>> No.4631171

>>4621862
its hilarious how everyone is avoiding the elephant in the room of her color being the reason for it, kek
how far 4ch has fallen lads

>> No.4631247

>>4631171
I thought her being a nigger was a given for the lack of popularity. She hates it herself.

>> No.4631528

>>4631171
I always assumed it was because her original avatar was really lifeless. I remember someone asking her when she would use it again and she basically said she has reasons why she doesn't want to. Her current avatar is nice but no one would choose to watch her over her genmates based on that design.

>> No.4631728

>>4622389
>the only person in hololive who has absolutely no ability to speak Japanese is the one who has the smallest Japanese fanbase
Wow anon, you really went out on a limb with that prediction

>> No.4631746

>>4631171
>the elephant in the room of her color being the reason for it
How the fuck did I glance that and saw 'clothes' instead of 'color'?
But the issue with her original outfit not seeing the light of day anymore did become an issue before.

>> No.4631771

>>4621862
I hate yurifags and Noel makes me feel a primal fear

>> No.4631879

>>4631247
yup

>>4631528
>>4631746
I think her original design had better color theory and easy on the eyes compared to her new one. the second she tried to muzzle her original design by adding unnecessary shit to cover it up, her growth got hampered.

>> No.4633223

>>4631528
>>4631746
I doubt it has anything to do with color. The original outfit is very revealing, and doesn't match Flare at all there. It also suffers from the lizard face she hates so much. The newer designs address this. Much more comfortable.

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>>4621862
dark elves are my kryptonite but goddamn is flare boring. I'll never get over this waste of an avatar

>> No.4635515

>>4635216
this is a blue board...

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4635516

>>4629633
And with you having a knife sticking out of your back.

>> No.4635670

>>4635515
Yeah I only glanced at the thumbnail and thought it was okay. Please forgive me jannies

>> No.4635696

>>4635670
Just delete your post stoopid.

>> No.4635849

>>4635696
oh yeah I forgot you can do that

>> No.4637316

>>4629499
wat

>> No.4637519

>>4622018
>Actual lesbian.
Good, but all holos are lesbos unless you have any proof otherwise.

>> No.4637562

>>4637519
That's not how that works. They all crave for cocks until proven otherwise.

>> No.4637727

>>4637562
No, it's absolutely how it works. Lesbian until proven otherwise. The only one who craves cocks here is you.

>> No.4637761

>>4622018
>actual lesbian
Source?

>> No.4637789

>>4637727
I'm not a woman, like how they are. So they're the ones craving cocks.

>> No.4637953

>>4622780
>having a deeper voice that put people of
That's it. Nips love high cutesy voices

>> No.4638042

>>4637789
You mention cocks on multiple occasion and project your obsession onto others but you're not the one craving cocks. Sure thing.

>> No.4638047

>>4637789
No, you're just a hopeless fag who can't kstop thinking about cocks. Your head is full of them.

>> No.4648439

Ever since she got her new outfit she's been trying to deny her past "cool" persona as fake, all the while amping up her cuteness and claiming it is her true personality.

>> No.4649333

>>4621862
She's a lesbian and she's not that interesting.
She can sing well if she does it properly, but she rarely does.
She had a good design, but she hated it.
The only game she's good at is minecraft, and that can only carry her so far.
There's literally no reason to follow Flare other than brand loyalty.

>> No.4649701

Honestly? Low key GFE for people who don't want it in their face or like ASMR. I'm not sure how much of it is on purpose.

>> No.4650343

>>4621862
She's unironically one of the biggest filters in Hololive. She doesn't play up any dumb gimmicks like Rushia or Pekora and she doesn't try hard to be wacky and sexy like Marine or Noel so the clipfags are warded away from her and tastelets just think she's boring. Even worse are the numberfags who don't even give her the time of day and assume that she's a leech because she has slightly less subs.

>> No.4657945

>>4621862
she's middle of the pack and in term of superchat she got a lot of dedicated paypigs, more than even some of the popular holos right now.
18. Aki - $41,286
19. Aqua - $38,809
20. Flare - $38,323
21. Towa - $38,313
22. Korone - $36,645
she also got decent views hovering around 5k+, the reason she trail her genmates is because she's in the same genmates as marine, rushia and fucking pekora they're like the top 5 most popular member within hololive. i think she's completely fine where she is right now.

>> No.4658042

>>4621862
She would be number one if she didn’t stick with the cow.

>> No.4658332

>>4621862
Her old model looks like bulbasaur

>> No.4660113

Because Hololive is cold product.

>> No.4660242

>>4657945
Why does Flare get so many gachis?

>> No.4660245

>>4621862
when will people realize subs are irrelevant?

>> No.4660346

>>4637519
Other than Miko and Flare, every single one of the Hololive girls is striaght, bi at most, for cases like Marine and Kiara.

>> No.4660383

>>4660242
Good people inspire loyalty in their followers.

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>>4621862
flares a much more acquired taste. she's the luna of her gen, but she has her own charms. btw she has very dedicated followers

>> No.4660696

>>4621862
Unironically too manly for beta Jap, her voice and fist model just add to it, there are reasons why she has a lot of female fan.

>> No.4660721

>>4660242
GFE. Instead of doing it well and spicy she does it as some lazy cunt treating her chat like her boyfriend until she finds a real one.

>> No.4663265

>>4660242
usually the reason for chuubas that has low following but high earnings the answer are almost always GFE
unlike rushia that does yandere GFE or polka that does menhera GFE, flare GFE are quite unique. her GFE are born from the desperation of needing a boyfriend, she's been single for so long that as way to cope she delusionally start to treat her fans as a substitute boyfriend until she finds a real one. it's pretty endearing if you ever get a chance to experience it.

>> No.4663528

>>4621862
Original character model had scuffed rigging that hamstrung her early growth.

>> No.4664273
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4664273

I love my wife.

>> No.4664766

>>4664273
Noeru..

>> No.4665009

>>4664273
But that's my wife tho

>> No.4665879

>>4622074
> She pulls the average up
RRAT poster BTFOed.

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