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>> No.46195420
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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This thread will be better, I believe

>> No.46195472

>>46195360
Seems like a waste using bots to shit on shit tier level streamer like tempiss members kek

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>> No.46195505

so, how far removed are our dear burgerbros for being thrown in prison for browsing 4chan?

>> No.46195513

>>46195030
Male vtubers were a scam and cover fell for it (again) despite the only blight on their record being...the first time they fell for male vtubers

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>71,239: Ayame (Hololive)
>36,784: Marine (Hololive)
>28,932: Koyori (Hololive)
>27,844: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,958: Miko (Hololive)
>26,639: Korone (Hololive)
>26,220: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>23,024: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,053: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,489: Miko (Hololive)
>17,164: Nene (Hololive)
>16,521: Suisei (Hololive)
>16,188: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,010: Watame (Hololive)
>14,407: Choco (Hololive)
>14,187: Ui (Indie)
>13,573: Nerumero (Indie)
>12,221: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>12,041: Met (VSPO)
>11,540: Ema (VSPO)
>11,521: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,481: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,357: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,667: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,468: Sumire (VSPO)

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whatever happened to this?
i was promised a discord leak, a yab

>> No.46195546

"I Was Cheering My Oshi On But Then I Realized That She's My Slave!" is a light novel that tells the story of a die-hard fan of a popular idol group who finds herself in a surreal situation. The protagonist, a high school student named Anon, is a passionate fan of the idol group "Hololive" and is known among her friends for her unwavering devotion to the group's lead singer, or "oshi," named Gura.

One day, while attending a fan event, Anon has a chance encounter with Gura and ends up helping her out of a tricky situation. To Anon's surprise, Gura reveals that she has been sold into indentured servitude by her agency and is now legally bound to serve as Anon's personal assistant for a year.

Initially, Anon is thrilled to have her oshi living with her and helping her out in daily life, but as she spends more time with Gura, she starts to feel conflicted about the power dynamic between them. On the one hand, she wants to support Gura and help her achieve her dreams, but on the other hand, she can't help but feel uncomfortable with the idea of owning another person.

As the story progresses, Anon grapples with her conflicting feelings and tries to find a way to help Gura break free from her contract while also navigating the challenges of high school life and her own burgeoning feelings for her idol-turned-slave. The novel explores themes of power, agency, and the ethics of idol culture, all while delivering a heartwarming and engaging story about two girls who form an unlikely bond.

>> No.46195576

Anons, are we expecting any big announcements on 1st April from Cover??

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THIS is how a slave looks like

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>> No.46195607

>>46195513
kek I love how even Yagoo admitted that he doesn't have any idea how to actually grow the male branch on the investor call.

>> No.46195622

wtf jewcorp is really shill that new girl hard

>> No.46195649

>>46195546
That anon?
Me

>> No.46195659
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>>46195521
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata
7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 6
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports
11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine
12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live
13) Hal (Neo Porte) - 139,050 - VSaikyo 5 teams announcement
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 32,152 - Minecraft
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 106,097 - 3D birthday live
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,808 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,863 - Slither.io
18) Hololive (Hololive) - 103,296 - Hololive 4th fes day 1 free part
19) Hololive (Hololive) - 95,002 - Hololive 4th fes day 2 free part
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,617 - Minecraft
21) Chiroru (Indie) - 97,523 - WBC semi-final watchalong
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 160,044 - 5th anniversary 3D live
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,542 - PekoMoona off-collab cooking
24) Aqua (Hololive) - 39,020 - Minecraft
25) Marine (Hololive) - 34,292 - Karaoke + announcement
26) Miko (Hololive) - 49,612 - Soulcalibur 6
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,236 - Minecraft
28) Marine (Hololive) - 54,460 - Holomen relationship updates
29) Ayame (Hololive) - 71,239 - New outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
25x: Hololive
2x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Marine, Miko
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Suisei
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Gura, Hal, Koyori, Lamy, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
69x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
3x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
26x: Pekora
8x: Marine
4x: Miko, Subaru, Toya
3x: Hololive, Mio, Suisei
2x: Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>> No.46195668

>>46195540
>Expecting anything from a retarded leftist Genchink streamer
You played yourself.

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>> No.46195690

>>46194947
No people have said that no one wants to watch people like Enna because her personality is disgusting and she would be much more tolerable if she acted like a Hologirl. This was literally a talking point when Ethyria admitted to trying to act like hologirls early on

>>46194986
>Not really?
Well I just quite frankly disagree with your experience. What the fuck else do you think people are referring to when they praise Hologirls personalities but shit on indies? Can you not put 2 and 2 together that they want them to act like the thing they praise?
Whenever someone shits on a twitch indie and in the same post praises how hologirls act they are saying the twitch indie should act like a hologirl. Whenever someone says "thank god I watch hologirls and not indies, a hologirl would never act like this" they are saying the indie should act like the hologirl

If you can't logic that shit out you're just an autistic retard. Ehtyria wouldn't try to fake their personalities early on if it wasn't what was expected of them at the time.

>> No.46195707

>>46195596
Hololive isn't getting invited again is it

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>>46195546

>> No.46195716

>>46195546
I want this to be real LN.

>> No.46195721

>>46195596
This is kinda sad to watch honestly, she should just not made a big deal and ignore it.

>> No.46195723

>>46195607
I know how but that requires cover to let me pork a-chan

>> No.46195734

>>46195622
i'm out of the loop, what happened to the ghost girl?
why they stop shilling her?

>> No.46195740

>>46195453
thread blessed by the ghost of Chama

>> No.46195793
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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>3/29 DAILY TALLY
5,328: IRyS (Hololive)
5,179: Luca (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra
7) Kiara (Hololive) - 24,018 - Myth Offcollab
8) Shu (Nijisanji) - 10,195 - Return Stream
9) Ina (Hololive) - 14,532 - Minecraft
10) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,791 - Charity Stream
11) Pomu (Nijisanji) - 19,891 - Outfit Reveal
12) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,341 - Karaoke (w/ Towa)
13) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,742 - Minecraft
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 20,086 - Birthday Stream
15) Vox (Nijisanji) - 6,437 - Little Misfortune
16) Shu (Nijisanji) - 9,912 - NijiEN Boys Mario Kart
17) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,761 - Karaoke
18) Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,240 - Unarchived Karaoke
19) Ren (Nijisanji) - 12,746 - Unarchived Karaoke
20) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,205 - Post-Fes Zatsudan
21) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,942 - Birthday Countdown/Unarchived Karaoke
22) Fauna (Hololive) - 16,885 - Birthday Stream
23) Mori (Hololive) - 10,321 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Lui & Chloe)
24) Shu (Nijisanji) - 7,540 - Valorant (w/ Astel & NijiEN)
25) Ina (Hololive) - 8,656 - Post-Fes Zatsudan
26) Gura (Hololive) - 23,054 - Minecraft
27) IRyS (Hololive) - 13,254 - Unarchived Karaoke
28) Gura (Hololive) - 21,465 - Minecraft
29) IRyS (Hololive) - 5,328 - Megaman Zero

>PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Vox
3x: Fauna, Shu, Gura, IRyS
2x: Kiara, Mori, Ina
1x: Amelia, Hololive English, Pomu, Kronii, Baelz, Ren, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
35p: Fauna
27p: Vox
22p: IRyS
17p: Shu
15p: Gura
14p: Baelz, Mori
13p: Kiara, Ina, Mysta
10p: Luca
9p: Axel, Mumei
7p: Amelia
6p: Pomu, Ren
5p: Hololive English, Kronii
4p: Fulgur, Selen
3p: Uki
1p: Pippa, Elira, Rosemi, Nina

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>>46195734
Because the british girl started getting an insane amount of subs, pic related

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>> No.46195834
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I am Kson, and I'm here to ask you a question.

Is a chuba not entitled to the sweat of her brow?
'No!' says the man in Cover, 'It belongs to the the manager.'
'No!' says the man in the Anykara, 'It belongs to Riku.'
'No!' says the man in VOMS, 'It belongs to no one we're basically disbanded lol.'

I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different.
I chose the retarded. I chose... Vshojo.
A NT CORP DO NO CALL IT A CORP where the artist would not fear the censor.
Where the creative would not be bound by petty seisoness.
Where the great would not be constrained by the small!
And with the sweat of your brow, Vshojo can become your city as well.

>> No.46195838

>>46195734
from what some anon have said she got BLACKED RAW

>> No.46195857

>>46195707
Yeah, and even if they do it would be different girls anyway

>> No.46195877

>>46191348
The point of the Spiffing Brit's video wasn't that raids or ads are inherently bad. The point was that badly targeted raids and ads will give views with low watch time and tank your algorithm visibility. All NijiEN has to do is simply not have an audience that is split across gender and cultural lines that is constantly at odds with each other and has nothing in common. Very easy fix.

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>>46195793
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
59x: Hololive
27x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
9x: Mori
7x: Amelia, IRyS
6x: Baelz, Vox, Mumei, Fauna, Ina
5x: Gura
3x: Mysta, Pomu, Kiara, Kronii, Shu
2x: Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
76p: Fauna
60p: IRyS
59p: Ina
58p: Mumei
57: Mori
54p: Baelz
53p: Vox
50p: Amelia
37p: Mysta
31p: Kiara
26p: Luca
25p: Gura
22p: Kronii
17p: Shu, Selen
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki
10p: Axel
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira, Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper, Fulgur
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

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>drama, fleshstreamer "vtubers", slavery, preaching, support the cause or else
>vs
>comfy block game
which way, vtuber fan?

>> No.46195904

Fauna you are 70 ccv away from 10k Median of Peaks for march, please play Minecraft again then fuck off till april.

>> No.46195916

>>46195721
what do you mean anon, doing event collabs with males = they are marrying your oshi

>> No.46195931

>>46195707
Hopefully, the idea of PvP events in Minecraft can be executed well even without commands but this one was terrible

>> No.46195948

>>46195596
This almost feels like a Simpsons episode kek
I don't know whether I feel sorry for Kanata or not, it's her fault after all

>> No.46195951

Honestly, the basic answer to all of this Kson stuff is that Hologirls plays an anime character and other vtubers don't or can't differentiate it. That's it. Kson doesn't understand that people likes watching a vtuber playing a character. The vtuber isn't a slave to the corpo, nor are the fans a slave to the vtuber.

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>> No.46195968

>>46195877
>Very easy fix.
Yeah... easy

>> No.46195970

>>46195596
she should've just not participate in the event, her manager deserves some slaps

>> No.46195979

>>46195834
Iine, I'm happy for you Kson
Now if you don't mind, I'll go back to watching my girls, good luck though

>> No.46196003

>>46195513
they can work but not in cover their audience is just to abrasive about the fact males can be near their girls like normals human beings

>> No.46196018

>>46195813
60 or 70 to 150k is insane for such a small agancy... but in order to not just collect dead subs she will have to stream her buffest content

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>>46195896
>blocc game with m*les
no thank you

>> No.46196051

>>46195707
Who gives a shit. Why would you even want them to collab with japanese dream and a bunch of shitters again anyway

>> No.46196054

>>46195970
It’s also her fault for not asking for details before accepting, she herself said as much

>> No.46196082

>>46195596
https://streamable.com/cs4bna
Here's a streamable version.

>> No.46196085

>>46195979
This is why vtubing slavery still exist anon, because you keep watching your slave

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>> No.46196107

>>46195513
Men don't watch male vtubers in the west (because Vtuber is basically synonymous with virtual idol in the West due to uncontrolled Hololive supremacy, this is part of what Kson was complaining about)
Also, Vesper and Tempus are competing with thousands of high-profile entertaining male streamers if you want the brotuber experience. A hypothetical supremely talented content genius might be able to attract and retain male viewers but Tempus isn't that, plus said hypothetical guy would be better off just being a flesh streamer.

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>>46195793
>5k gold
>2 entries
AAAAAAIIIIIEEEE THANK GOD GURA IS STREAMING TODAY

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>> No.46196174

>>46195951
Kson understands it very well, she used to do it as Coco. She even said that she doesn't want vtubers to be in relationships.
It's just that she's upset that she (and Mike) are becoming increasingly irrelevant after Holo.

>> No.46196180

>>46195415
I despise gyarus. There's something in them that utter disgusts me

>> No.46196189

>>46196082
The stinky orca is too good for this world, truly the best holoX

>> No.46196218

>>46196082
You're a good girl stinky, now take a bath

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>>46196189
Yes she is!!

>> No.46196285

>>46196082
ORCA CUTE
ORCA GOOD
ORCA STINKY

>> No.46196295

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HScSUo-vUK8
>No GOI

>> No.46196325

>>46195813
>generic chuuba gets addicted to numberfagging after stumbling into click baiting shorts meta
Hopefully she doesn't let this go to her head and realises they aren't there because of her

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>>46196082
Holy shit, what a good friend

>> No.46196356

>>46195951
>Kson doesn't understand that people likes watching a vtuber playing a character
This is why she seethes, very palpably, against her audience dumping her. In her mind she IS Coco so where tf is everyone

>> No.46196378

>>46196189
She was even the one who found the golden pig for the team, while having to watch over Laplus and Kanata while Pekora and Botan charge straight forward
She is pretty nice and competent, a silent guardian dare I said

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>> No.46196396

>>46196174
>It's just that she's upset that she (and Mike) are becoming increasingly irrelevant after Holo.
then she shouldn't have left unlike rushia who was kick out due to nda breaches, she choose to leave. She though she was hot shit and it wasn't the holo box that made her popular

>> No.46196420

>>46196295
Just stop playing this garbage-ass game (from a content perspective; the game itself is pretty good), for fuck's sake.

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>>46196295
Fauna to Gura funnel is back in the menu

>> No.46196434

>>46196082
And she has a lot unicorns in her stream. Kanata needs learn from her.

>> No.46196437

>>46195813
This faggot will go insane once the number stops pouring, much more severe than Mysta or Vox's case KEK

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>> No.46196492

>>46195896
Wait, are vtubers supposed to be fun and make you happy? I thought the whole point was to feel miserable and get yelled at all the time.

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>>46196082
Kore wa Hororaibu
This is what I want Kson, I don't want you shoving your shit down my throat

>> No.46196495

>>46195877
Did a niji say something about not raiding anymore? But they just need to stop raiding like there's no tomorrow, you don't need to raid a sc reading stream just because it's the only stream there. It will be good to see if their gamer wave will do better because of this or not.

>> No.46196503

>>46196325
Her jew overlords probably told her to publicly numberfag. This shitshow is their Salome moment.

>> No.46196504

>>46196325
meh, might as well strike while the iron is hot
she'll obviously slow down eventually (and maybe become mentally ill as a result) but I just hope she manages to pass Pippa

>> No.46196514
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Nice

>> No.46196518

>>46195951
Anon please every single holo member has multiple fans that they could enter a suicide pact or get them to build a pyramid.

>> No.46196529
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>> No.46196534

>>46195813
>numberfag whore
Oh yeah this always ends well

>> No.46196535

>>46196514
kek, fix your shit neal

>> No.46196583
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FUCKING SLAVES GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE

>> No.46196585

>This post should be in another thread but I posted it here
insider info, if any EN or ID holo members talk about money making MVs or cover songs and they state numbers, it's always in yen and some ENs make it unclear usually to make the audience assume they're in dollars and looks like expensive projects

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>>46196180
you can just say you're gay anon, it's 2023 no one cares

>> No.46196615

>>46196583
FAQ you~

>> No.46196627
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>>46195813
she knows exactly what she's doing

>> No.46196631

>>46196434
rushia had them too but she still did collabs with males in the past and there was no problem, i think it's because Kanata thinks she has no charm also that she does egosa and she should stop

>> No.46196640

>>46196583
tanigo-san?!

>> No.46196641

>>46196082
I've been subbed to Chloe for ages but I've never really watched her. I will now watch her. What a wholesome, kind orca.

>> No.46196662

>>46196627
like jews knowing 9/11 will happen

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>> No.46196699

>>46196585
pretty sure we never have anyone who state the cost, isn't it? Of course there's Gura Queen now-shelved project but everyone universally agreed that she's retarded.

>> No.46196705

>>46196514
which countries werent down?

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>>46196583
I'm back daddy

>> No.46196712

>>46195793
>5k gold
EN is back, baby!

>> No.46196748

>>46196082
Wait is that Kanata acting like collabing with males is bad while Chloe, who has A FUCK LOT more stupid fans in regards to that, is the one trying to care for Kanata?
It's time to change a little bit if she's that scared still then whatever.
But I do notice that there are a lot more HoloJPs that actually talk about males now compared to before. Usually it's only Matsuri and Fubuki.

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>> No.46196749

Homobeggars still seething about Kanata?

>> No.46196796

>>46196325
she's a perfect example of Filian, but a numberfag Filian. So I guess her peak subs is also around 1.5m~

>> No.46196806
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>> No.46196822

>>46195415
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>> No.46196828

>>46195546
fucking kek my sides hurt

>> No.46196843

>>46196627
>the Jew corp is playing both sides
a tale as old as time

>> No.46196863

>>46195793
A day with 0 tally entries will be funny

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>> No.46196886

I still find it funny how Shylily utterly dismantles a good chunk of arguments against hololive with her mere existence
>Lewd jokes every few moments
>Twitch streamer
>Convert
>Sexualized model
And yet
>Cute
>Funny
>Rising in popularity
>Drama free

>> No.46196889

>>46196863
Already happened.

>> No.46196914

>>46196796
If she can get to 1.5m it'll be an incredible, ridiculous success. That's upper-tier Holo territory.

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>> No.46196933

>>46195951
>Hologirls plays an anime character
Anon I'm pretty sure Peko stopped larping as a rabbit a long time ago

>> No.46196945

>>46195904
rip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HScSUo-vUK8

>> No.46196946

>Fauna in 2 hours
God is good

>> No.46196961

>>46196748
It's Kanata, she herself is the ultimate unicorn.
This isn't really about her fans, it's about her own principles. She thinks her fans are exactly like her which is why the situation is terrifying in her mind.

>> No.46196964

>>46195546
Would buy and wait for the manga and anime

>> No.46196970

>>46196914
that upper-tier is already reaching 2m

>> No.46196973

>>46196748
Most of her fans literally don't care, it's Kanata herself who is the schiziest schizo unicorn.

>> No.46196982

>>46195596
>>46196082
She’s made a big show of being unicorn friendly multiple times and when she’s put into collab she does this. She’s proved her point she’ll always try her hardest to not betray them. No reason to feel bad for her she put her money where her mouth is as autistic as it seemed.

>> No.46196984

>A-chan sang PET
My dick... The way her voice quivers makes it extra hard!

>> No.46196992

>>46196886
Whore with a heart of gold, a common and likable trope.

>> No.46196995
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>> No.46197013

>>46196748
Anon... is the same girls: Matsuri, Fubuki, Suisei, Towa, Sora and more and less Botan. Pekora last time was forced and Chloe is doing the Gura way: Just ignore it like never happen

>> No.46197030

>>46195904
What does she win if she gets a 10k median ccv?

>> No.46197029

>>46196631
Well, do you think her being too focus on her chest is a play?

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>using a japanese title
>tagging with every single wave hashtag

This is numberfagging shit right here

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>>46195659
>25x: Hololive
>2x: Indie
>1x: Neo Porte, Nijisanji
>Mar 30 - Pegor's Gacha
>Mar 31 - Senchou Outfit
Don't tell me it's going to be a sweep

>> No.46197059

>>46196843
Rin is the complete opposite of GFE and still manages to understand and appreciate the industry like a true fan.
It's incredible really

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>> No.46197073

>>46196631
>spoiler
it's purely this, despite being around for a while ppt is mentally still a newfag who can't tell the difference between actual fans complaining and retards falseflagging and is also unable to actually realize it and stop threadreading
that said I'm going to echo a post I'm too lazy to go find and reply to and say while she didn't need to lose her marbles her manager is also to blame, you gotta know who you're wrangling and how to do it before you yank them into stuff like this or it'll blow up in your face

>> No.46197071

>>46196961
>>46196982
The whole situation is so awkward, she clearly have the time to but don’t want to pull out because she don’t want to put other Holos in a tight spot

>> No.46197091

>>46196961 >>46196973 >>46197013
Well thank God Kanata mostly keep it to herself then

>> No.46197108

>>46195690
> no one wants to watch people like Enna because her personality is disgusting
True
> she would be much more tolerable if she acted like a Hologirl.
Any source that's not up your ass?

>> No.46197110

>>46197034
HOLY LEECH!

>> No.46197128
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>> No.46197133

>>46196082
This is pathetic. What the fuck is wrong with Kanata. She should have just dropped out if she was going to be a bitch about it and ruin it for everybody. Why didn't they just sub in somebody like Miko or Subaru?

>> No.46197138

>>46197056
Don't worry, Chinman is gonna pull a random tourney lottery stream out of his ass tomorrow.

>> No.46197155

>>46195659
HOLOSWEEP
HOLOMONTH

man, what the fuck happened to Niji?

>> No.46197159

>>46196886
>Cute
>Funny
You can't be cute and funny while also joking about cocks and vaginas, it's impossible.

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GOLD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh4s0bBrPx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh4s0bBrPx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh4s0bBrPx0

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>> No.46197201

>>46197138
YAB TOURNAMENT! HERE WE GO!

>> No.46197208

>>46195690
> What the fuck else do you think people are referring to when they praise Hologirls personalities but shit on indies?
Plenty of anons watch indies and small corpo girls anon, even I tune in to the occasional Tenma stream despite her timeslot usually being at ass end of 1am at night or something.
All people are asking for, is -
> professionalism
If you think non-holo girls can't be professional, you clearly haven't watched many chuubas outside of them.

>> No.46197210

All this talk about unicorns and shit makes me wonder if there will ever be a point where fans accept that an older Holo has to get married at some point (similar to where idolfags kinda just accept it when the idol gets too old) or if the Holo will just graduate. Of course, not talking about some newbie, more like someone whose been in the company for 8+ years or so.

>> No.46197212

>>46197172
Latechama...

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>> No.46197252

>>46196945
eeehhhh not surprised, the only hope to have a decent showing relies on the chumbud prime pipeline without ame overlap

>> No.46197259

>>46197159
Counterpoint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTbrwHfJIgk

>> No.46197260

>>46196914
nah she won't hit that anytime soon, maybe in 2years time. Filian been doing it for one and a half years, and she's the shorts queen

>> No.46197267

>>46196492
skill issue
this place makes me laugh a lot, and I can filter out the dumb shitposts made by threadreaders pretty easily since they stand out so much

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Some schizo baits about Kanata and retards take it hook, line and sinker while acting like they are psychiatrists.

>> No.46197290

>>46197210
Choco-tentei... I volunteer myself if I could

>> No.46197292

>>46197210
Chocosen exist, so...

>> No.46197304

>>46196434
Kanata had double her peak and all of them undershot what they normally get for minecraft. Safe to say if any were most of them watching Kanata

>> No.46197320

>>46197133
They probably have better thing to do then joining this. In a way the Holos who accepted this invitation are like sacrificial lambs cause Cover can’t really turn down THE game every Holo play

>> No.46197335

>>46197210
Choco...
But it's not like many fans care about their private life.

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>> No.46197349

>>46197210
>makes me wonder
Does it though? Like fr fr?

>> No.46197353

>>46196961
Is it Coco's influence? Or was she like that since forever?

>> No.46197372

>>46194028
Oh please, you won't do jackshit. You said the same thing about them doing Disney songs, but they still do them.

>> No.46197377

>>46197073
Well good thing she's changing her manager then

>> No.46197391

>>46195951
The whole Kson rant is a skill issue. Well, you can't expect much from e-thots behind an anime avatar

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>> No.46197411

>>46197304
>Kanata had double her peak
And Chloe has double unicorn whales than kanata

>> No.46197429

>>46197155
Anycolor dont care about ccv numbers but about revenue and profit

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And we're back

>> No.46197477

>>46195690
>What the fuck else do you think people are referring to when they praise Hologirls personalities but shit on indies?
That they like what the Holo girls do and dislike what these indies you mention do.

Your claim is that
>PEOPLE HERE
wanted those indies to act like Holo girls. People here most certainly doesn't and I'll explain why. by borrowing a classic line from a movie

(The setting is a frantic Bond, tied and under a laser, proposing to just give the evildoer any information he wants)
>Do you want me to talk?"
to which Goldfinger responded
>No, Mr. Bond. (laughs) I expect you to die!

People here expects fuck all from indies. Do like Holo, don't do like Holo, it genuinely would make no difference for the average /here/ anon which already "has Holo at home", except they really do.
>Ehtyria wouldn't try to fake their personalities early on if it wasn't what was expected of them at the time.
You are confusing a "reward dynamics" with "wanting them to do change and behave differently".

It's not hard to understand
>Streamers that behave like Holo have a chance to be rewarded with a big live audience, a big number of subs and the type of attention Holo girls get.
>Streamers that fail to do that, more often than not, have a harder path to acquire the same things.

tl;dr: nobody gives a fuck if an indie do like Holo or fail to do so because people here for the most part couldn't care less about them either way

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>> No.46197487

>>46195690
>No people have said that no one wants to watch people like Enna because her personality is disgusting and she would be much more tolerable if she acted like a Hologirl
not sure I'd agree, I know a few nijifags who liked her well enough for who she was(a fucking nutjob), like only turned into liked when the kyo arc started and everything got ten times worse
if anything this has been nijiENs actual problem, the status quo only seems to get worse with each new gen, rather than building onto each other they're tearing each other down

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>> No.46197544

>>46197478
Girls wearing these clothes are whores

>> No.46197549

>>46197320
The situation is so dumb either way. Even the most hardened unicorn tends to agree that contact with males in a professional context isn't a big deal. This was an officially sponsored Minecraft event. Nobody would have given Kanata shit over it but she had a melty and went all schizo about it anyway.

>> No.46197550

>>46197210
>Of course, not talking about some newbie, more like someone whose been in the company for 8+ years or so
Anon there a good chance hololive won't be around in eight years or changed so much we don't recognize it anymore. The vtuber landscape moves fast if you go back three years the top vtubers were people like Ai, Kaguya Luna, and Shiro.

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New holonews issue!
https://twitter.com/HoloNewsEN/status/1640760537104482305

>> No.46197564

>>46197544
yes, my whore and I'm their master

>> No.46197589

>>46196961
Make me wonder what happens if a Male from the news interview her. Not even Gura complained about interviews because really thats a good exposure for you and the company

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>> No.46197624

>>46197549
>waaa Kanata bad slave!!!

>> No.46197629

>>46197429
>The company who have total hours watched metric in their report and event ccv
Ruro rumao they care about ccv more than Cover

>> No.46197632

>>46197210
pretty sure some of the hags are already married and with children but they will never said anything in fear to provoque a massive meltdown that's why flare was so pissed about the fact rushia was leaking information to dramatuber

>> No.46197654

>>46197544
There is nothing wrong with whores.

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How's the war going lads?

>> No.46197688

>>46197589
Pekora basically took the hit for the entire team so that was never going to happen in the first place

>> No.46197694

Reminder that illustrators consider working for Hololive the biggest game changer in their career. They don't say the same in regards to Niji.

Checkmate Nijicopers.

>> No.46197700

>>46197549
Aren't all homo collabs a professional context then since they are coworkers?

>> No.46197702

>>46197549
>She had a melty
This is like the 5th time I've read this in the last day or two. When did this become phrase become a thing?

>> No.46197721

>>46197210
I don't think it would matter as much.
I'd think that some would publicize it and continue as usual (like Norio did), and just reduce the frequency of her activities.
BUT
Hololive is structured as a "girls high school".
There's going to be a fundamental dynamic shift between a girl who gets married and the rest of the girls.
This is why even former married girls are still in the "in" circle, because there's no "bf" or "husband" to make their "girls' night out"s awkward.
But if a girl gets married, they're no longer part of the "in" group, they have to be concerned about getting home for the husband, they can't do as many offcollabs, they can't hang out off-stream with the girls as much.

There will also be awkwardness in conversations because of this difference in status, some jokes and some topics may no longer be easy to talk about (growing old, baby jokes etc.).
And all in all, they will be severely distanced from the girls, so much so that they might as well graduate at that point.

I would say that, it's possible for the Holo girls to all stream into their 60s', and make a "nursing home" type of environment for when they grow old.
But there's also the more likely prospect that some will certainly get married and lose their link with the other girls. They might either stream only sporadically (like Gilzaren) or just straight up graduate to focus on raising their family.

>> No.46197728

>>46197544
*Ladies of the night

>> No.46197744

>>46197210
>if there will ever be a point where fans accept that an older Holo has to get married at some point
I WANT CHOCO TO GET FUCKING MARRIED, NOW!
She imposed the most complicated boundaries on a potential suitor tho
>to live in separate quarters (next door apartment is good)
>"joined beds" just for occasional sex, but other than that she sleeps alone
She disclosed wanting that type of salaryman that is rarely at home ...

>> No.46197754

>>46196886
Shylily is smart. Stop blaming others. It's your skill as an entertainer. And stop making drama.
She also recognizes the benefits of Hololive in the vtuber scene that provides a more seiso environment.

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>> No.46197764

>>46197676
Wei kingdom winning w/o doing anything

>> No.46197774

>>46197702
it's overblown
Not quiet a melty but it is indeed an overreaction from her

>> No.46197778 [DELETED] 

>>46197210
Anon we already knew that Azki is married and has a child but she won't say it and we won't care.

>> No.46197804

>>46197353
the Coco grooming experience perhaps leaves some side effects

>> No.46197809

>>46197702
Because certain audience is pushing this Kanata narrative and that audience uses that kind of language.

>> No.46197823

>>46197700
>coworkers
They aren't

>> No.46197827

>>46197744
She just want to get NTR experience isn't she?

>> No.46197831

>>46197676
This is pretty rude to Wu, they're more like the Dong Zhuo faction

>> No.46197830

>>46197210
For idols they usually graduate/retire when this happens what is your point? Are you saying they should marry and stay in hololive why. Don’t you think they should move on eventually

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>> No.46197853

>>46197700
No homobeggar

>> No.46197874

>>46197744
Where do I sign up?!

>> No.46197885

>>46197804
Kanata to me really does seem like a victim of Coco’s influence, it left a scar on her
The name “Leech” is still there in her head

>> No.46197896

>>46197553
>homo news
ain't reading lol

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>> No.46197905

>>46197549
I feel like even legit unicorns would tell Kanata not to worry about it much because she's clearly acting more schizo than they are. The scenario is less "How dare she!" and more "Is she she ogey?"

>> No.46197907

>>46197758
Ahhhh I want to molest these girls so much

>> No.46197919

>>46195813
what's her ccv? Pippa is also at 200k and has 2.5k average ccv

>> No.46197932

>>46197744
Young people think this sounds bad, for some older guys this is a fucking fantasy ideal.

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HOLO GIRLS ARE NOT SLAV-
>BANTU MUSIC STOPS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0H2I8d3F-Q

>Otakimor-
I SAID "BANTU MUSIC STOPS"!

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>> No.46197975

Anon I have a really stiff shoulder that is already starting to sting, when can I get these slaves to massage my shoulders

>> No.46197978

>>46197853
Not a homobegger, but I don't see the difference between collabing with external male streamers and homos. Sounds like a cope.

>> No.46198006

>>46197059
Complete opposite means she’d be bragging about getting fucked.

>> No.46198013

>>46197629
no, they really dont. the only thing they show is koshien and thats because thats the highest number they got. other than that its all money related

>> No.46198016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-qKY5aR9gI
One thing I dont understand is, why did they disabled live chat and comments for this video???
Do they not want anyone to speculate about the project anywhere on Youtube??

>> No.46198022

>>46196295
oh a funnel
I wish EN3 would have someone who could funnel to Fauna

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>> No.46198038

>>46197975
we're the slavemaster Noel, not you

>> No.46198049

>>46197978
>Not a homobegger
Sure, beggar. Whatever you say.

>> No.46198060

>>46197978
Well if they don't talk to each other, then you right. No difference.

>> No.46198064

>>46198013
Cope, they have one page dedicated to the company streaming numbers, don’t “Doesn’t count” me

>> No.46198067

>>46197978
Lurk moar

>> No.46198099

What the fuck is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CqG3-3hiEQ

>> No.46198126
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>>46198038
You listen to what I say, you pig

>> No.46198149

>>46198006
I doubt she has ever touched a dick in her life.

>> No.46198153

>>46198126
noel should graduate already

>> No.46198154

>>46197071
Did you watch her stream might not seem awkward from her perspective besides chloe went to comfort her senpai. She wants to do this let her do this

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JgXpPBz2jY

>> No.46198178
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>> No.46198195

>>46198049
Keep telling yourself that while you keep coming up with more excuses for male collabs. I bet if Pekora or someone ever collabs with homos you'll find a reason why that doesn't count too.

>> No.46198196

>>46197688
Pekora is a great senapi.

>> No.46198202

>>46197553
>homo
easy skip

>> No.46198220

>>46198153
So for all the people who wanted Sana to graduate, were your lives improved after you got your wish?

>> No.46198228

>>46198153
to be my wife, yes. it might be in the near future too since she's been pondering about retiring her "night job" recently.

>> No.46198232

>>46198064
and none of that is ccv numbers retard but hours

>> No.46198233

>>46198099
>m*les

>> No.46198239

>>46198195
>If this happens
>when this happens
>2 more weeks
etc

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>> No.46198247

>>46196886
The best thing is she also proves what a shitshow Vshojo is, because Veibae just had to needlessly insulted her.

>> No.46198250

>>46197978
fuck off Oboretai

>> No.46198255

>>46197978
Here is one funny thing: there are people that don’t even care about their oshi to even straight up collab with male vtubers
>EXCEPT FOR HOLOSTARS
That’s amusing as fuck, and it is increasingly more frequent due to homobeggars

>> No.46198256

>>46197210
fans know that she will get married (maybe) after she graduates, that's why the drama happens if she has a boyfriend while she is still active. She is supposed to graduate and continue with her life as a non-idol
If she stays as an idol while having a boyfriend that's just being greedy

>> No.46198261

>>46198016
Gura say talented people. Mori and Kiara hints on members. We have to wait until the second week of april

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>>46197676

>> No.46198289
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So if they add every talent and other official accounts, how much money are they giving to Elon?

>> No.46198294

>>46198195
So do you want us to straight up tell you that the girls just don’t like your boys then? Does that sound better to you?

>> No.46198297

Are there any famous english voice actors/actors into vtubers like they are in the Japanese's side? One of the way hololive got popular was even famous seiyuu like sugita was shilling hololive and that got more people into it.

>> No.46198301

>>46197978
MR OBORETAI GET DOWN

>> No.46198324

>>46198289
Around 5 grand a month or so, or 60K a year. But being filtered from for you would be death.

>> No.46198330

>>46198195
What the fuck are you even talking about, beggar? Did you misquote? Make sense.

>> No.46198345

>>46198256
>If she stays as an idol while having a boyfriend that's just being greedy
Lot hologirls have boyfriends or married. But they won't say anything and is better in that way

>> No.46198346

>>46198255
That's what I don't get, I feel like there are some people who would be fine if there oshi was railed on stream as long as it isn't homos.

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Yep, this is where Pekora money gonna go next after she roll gacha tomorrow
Cover should get the Holos a collab with this creature

>> No.46198350

>>46198289
Around $3k / month

>> No.46198368

>>46198289
If they want to settle to blue checkmarks, $5K + $6K

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>> No.46198406

>>46198297
dunno about actors but if it's VA then it doesn't mean shit really. English VAs are only above hentai VA in the popularity totem pole.

>> No.46198416

>>46198350(me)
I forgot the homo exists

>> No.46198423

>>46198346
Read his post again “due to Homobeggar”

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>> No.46198447

>>46197702
>melty
i only heard nijifans/homofags using that

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Cover interns, the holofans have made their decision by a majority poll :
ABORT EN3

>> No.46198494

>>46198255
It's about intimacy. Not sexual intimacy, but like friendship intimacy.
When a holo is working, they should be their for their fans. The "male presence" in a Hololive stream is the VIEWER. Having another dude actually on the stream playing the game or whatever means that you aren't the "male presence" as the viewer, you're just watching some other people have fun. Which is why it always gets compared to cuckoldry.
Having Holos interact with male announcers or interviewers isn't intimate, which is why it's OK.
This gets explained often and still beggars don't get it, and I think it's because women fundamentally can't understand or relate to this psychology.

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>> No.46198540

>>46198289
They should just stick to blue ones for holos desu, not like they are getting any fans there

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>> No.46198560

>>46198297
The only "famous" VAs basically all drop anime once they get to a certain size and can start doing western games instead. The anime niche is basically the minor leagues for VAs and they don't bring it up again once they get big.
And even then famous VAs are F list celebrities

>> No.46198580

>>46198453
kek
I always knew /#/ was never the actual representation of the true fans and is just a minority

>> No.46198583

>>46198453
With fans like this who needs antis?

>> No.46198589

>>46198453
what an idiotic question is this, ofcourse I would still be loyal to my oshi, those 2 options are not mutually exclusive

>> No.46198592

here comes Fauna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HScSUo-vUK8&ab_channel=CeresFaunaCh.hololive-EN

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>> No.46198631

>>46198016
It's not EN3 but only thing people will talk about is EN3 and it's embarrassing to them, so better to disable.

>> No.46198640

>>46198453
very odd for you to not include what channel posted the poll, surely it's not from deflated nutsacki or some other parasite, right

>> No.46198648

>>46198494
Homobeggar behavior unironically is offensive, no fan of the girls go pressuring another girls to collab with another girls since that is considered rude, so why do these people think it’s fine to do so with the boys? Even the Stars fan back then used to make memes about the guys holed up in their fort keeping the girls out
I don’t know what changed or where these people came from but they clearly don’t even care about the guys themselves

>> No.46198656

>>46197932
>Young people think this sounds bad
here is one >>46197827

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>> No.46198703

>>46198453
>no need to rush
>don't want to be like niji
>pointless, then you will beg for EN4 "new toys"
>they couldn't find anyone in time
>tempus exists!!!!
nearly 600days

>> No.46198720

>>46198494
I agree with your overall post but
>friendship intimacy
is definitely a downplayed way of putting it lol. It's definitely about intimacy but not of the "friendship" variety kek
If it was about wanting to feel like close friends it wouldn't be JUST males people care about lol

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>>46198453
>Most influential thread btw

>> No.46198724

>>46198453
show us the channel faggot

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>> No.46198765

>>46198453
The options create a biased poll. I want more cute girls but I will be loyal to my oshi above all else

>> No.46198766

>>46198648
>rude
For those people being rude and disgusting is a badge of honor. That means they are so different and better than everyone else. Fucking snowflakes.

>> No.46198772

>>46198720
I only specified friendship intimacy because stars beggars will often go
>Look, they aren't fucking just because they're coworkers
And I want to make sure it's understood that yes, we know they aren't fucking, but it's still not what fans want because they don't want to see their Holos get "intimate" with any kind of dude on stream, whether it's friendship intimacy or flirting/sexual intimacy

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>> No.46198782

>>46197978
The reason is that professional outside collab don't become part of the girls content, if you allow a homo to be part of your stream he is now part of the culture of your streams forever, you don't see people asking Korone about the sonic VA or if Gura is hanging out with Matpat meanwhile you have Vesper being associated with Kronii in everything even in funny moments he wasn't part of

>> No.46198817

>>46198453
the options are retarded. of course if presented with "I'm loyal to my oshi" as one of the option then the fans just gonna choose it.

>> No.46198826

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/686/text
Imagine if a nijifag was in charge of this.

>> No.46198890

>>46197676
The hololive kingdom easter faction seems to be at an unbeatble spot however the western faction seems to be struggling with half of their heros recovering from sickness.legendary hero Gawr "chink slayer" Gura has made a temporal return to defend the manchurian gold mines from the niji western (actually southeastern) faction before travling back to her new homeland on the east.
In response the western faction of nijinsanji is planning on adding more untrained and unheard people to their forces in hope of the tide of the war to change also With a batallion with a mix of eastern/wester/dead factions ready to go next month to conquer the mines with the name of "puyopuyotetris". This is all going while the niji eastern faction prepares a sacrificial ritual to appease the baseball gods.

Meanwhile the Freedom figther Kson realizes that culture of the holo kingdom is starting to be adopted by VS kingdom citizens. Realizing that if this doesnt change the kingdom will be lost in 5 years while also being in denial of her own kingdome heroes betraying the race of the vtubing world humans by joining forces with the flesh demons.


Yeah i was bored

>> No.46198922

>>46198453
It was retarded to put a question that challenges your loyalty, I won't drop my oshi when EN3 happens I just want her to have more girls to interact or to not make hololive look like a desert when she is too busy

>> No.46198947

>>46198255
Okayu did a collab with a male outsider because he was her friend anon, they do collabs with their friends

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>>46198453
My oshi literally said that she wanted new kohai (female). Why the fuck are these antis trying to make my oshi sad?

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>>46196082
Kanata is the hero we need. The savior of Hololive. Truly an angel.

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>>46195513
plave shows that male vtubers can work. you just need to broaden your audience and have personalities

>> No.46199044

>>46198955
Not giving a shit about new talents doesn't make you an anti you blithering retard. There is no fucking us vs them here. We're Mythfags antis when they didn't want a 2nd gen? No.

>> No.46199067

>>46198347
probably later this year...

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>> No.46199077

>>46198922
Then there no point of getting En3 just stick with your oshi. Like anons said for the homos that if they want to interact with people outside holos their plenty of indies or smaller companies to do so. So en3 is not a necessary for the branch.

>> No.46199079

>>46198782
This is definitely a good point. People will take any opportunity to shill their favorites and once you give them an inch they will firmly insert themselves at every opportunity
IRyS wouldn't be able to just talk about megaman, it would always have to become a conversation where red shota gets involved. Ina wouldn't be able to bring up holo purple without spic fag getting brought up. They become a recurring character once they're allowed in.

>> No.46199084

>>46198947
When?

>> No.46199085

>>46198346
Nah, that’s not it. It’s a simple reasoning
>the more the girls ignore the holostars the closer they get to total failure
Homos had a lot of goodwill, even in this thread but after Tempus and after the cross branch cross agency “overlap ban” on 3D debuts and debuts, it became clear for the audience that the faster they fail the faster they cease to be a nuisance.

>> No.46199118

>>46199044
>We're Mythfags antis
They're Hololive antis in general since they support talents who shit on what Hololive stands for. The venn diagram of homobeggars and mythfags is a perfect circle

>> No.46199128

>>46196003
Why can’t they just be interesting off of themselves like the girls do.

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>> No.46199157

>>46198453
>I'm loyal to my oshi
>BUT HEY, YOU CAN WATCH THIS NIJIEN VTUBER
>LOOK AT ALL MY OSHI MARKS ON MY TWITTER HANDLE
fucking retards

>> No.46199165

>>46199036
Why do they only have 134k subs? Do they have individual accounts?

>> No.46199175

>>46199036
now imagine plave 5 boys with Magni model... would they get the same numbers??

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>> No.46199176

>>46199044
Fans that are cheering for stagnation are even worse than antis. They basically want hobby to slowly die.

>> No.46199189

>>46196107
Who the fuck wants to watch an ugly male fleshperson if they are looking for a brotuber?
>he can't be my bro if he isn't at least as ugly as I am
This board is infested by normalfags, any real autistic guy would prefer looking at the anime guy for the bro experience but this board and thread are made up by trendhoppers who don't even watch clips let alone streams

>> No.46199190

>>46198346
You joke but I feel like I honestly have seen this sentiment in comment sections and shit
>I'm so happy she has an active and healthy relationship that she can share with us
like bro why the fuck are you invested like that

>> No.46199201

>>46195596
>>46196082
Luv my slaves
I will allow them to drink clean water for 3 days AND I will let them use the bathroom on their birthday

>> No.46199204

>>46198589
>>46198765
>>46198817
>>46198922
Doesn't that mean that the vtuber fanbase is saturated and EN3 will basically be sloppy seconds for the existing fans. They might get good viewership depending on being a good backup and which senpais they get closer to but when it comes to gachis that will buy only your merch and only SC you, that number will be very small and basically not worth it for Cover.

>> No.46199218

>>46198297
I only know one famouse english VA that the moment he got big he instantly talked shit about Japanese games and he said he won't ever worked for one again.
Troy Baker.

>> No.46199226

>>46196082
What a fucking queen, i kneel

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>>46198453
Holy mother of retard, the answer is not binary.

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>> No.46199249

>>46198346
Is there anyone in Hololive who actually collabs with a specific male outside Hololive multiple times? The whole point is that they're one offs and having bald hypnotist guy on stream as a special once doesn't mean he'll ever show up again or become part of the culture. Meanwhile Kronii has a massive problem with Vesper shipping in her own fanbase because people know there's no barrier to having Vesper on her channel whenever they want

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Let him cook

>> No.46199288

>>46198724
khyo

>> No.46199297

>>46199189
No straight person cares about how male looks, faggot.

>> No.46199310

>>46199204
nigga that's like every new gen ever, even back in JP early days. You can't build and expand the fanbase when you're not even exist in the first place.

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>> No.46199330

>>46198772
>because they're coworkers
My analogy about why stars are usally more hated is beacuse of this thing.
The stars are like direct neighbours of Hololive and if you don't like guys, they are the biggest threat. That's why this shit about pushing holopro creates stronger animosity, beacause it's no longer that they live in sepearte houses. No, they live together now.
That's also why the rationale that professional settings like sponsorships are generally ok, since they don't "live in the same street". Hololive and Holostars just have this close proximity being under the same company, that they are seen as the worst option.

>> No.46199329

>>46199189
Do you think it's normal for heterosexual males to want to look at prettyboi anime men? It doesn't matter if the dude is hot or ugly, idiot, a male viewer doesn't want to fuck them. It's about being entertaining. And the Tempus boys largely aren't, or at least not enough.

>> No.46199332

>>46199288
>Homobeggar prime
Fuck off man of course the results are biased

>> No.46199333

>>46199190
Reddit nice guys. The same people who spam "GO TO SLEEP" to show how much they care about the streamer because they want them to go to sleep instead of continuing to create content, and were so obnoxious about it Korone had to tell them to go fuck themselves

>> No.46199334

>>46199204
cmon anon, if you had a poll like this before Myth, the result would have been the same..... you dont want a new gen because you are oshiless, that just happens organically where you change your oshi because the new one fits you better

>> No.46199343

>>46199297
Okay, normalfag, kill yourself

>> No.46199367

>>46199249
Towa?

>> No.46199374

>>46197159
You can probably find clips of holos doing that. You can’t be cute and funny while talking about the amount of dicks you take or that you were sucking one before stream.

>> No.46199375

>>46195030
Isn't that the lowest numbers for Vesper's zatsudan up to date? He could go up to 2,3K not long ago but this one looks like 1800 peak without this raid.

>> No.46199379

>>46199288
Well now we know what the audience was and why the choices were biased, opinion discarded

>> No.46199408

>>46199204
Honestly I do think the "sloppy seconds" effect is a concern
But that's also a fucking problem created by Cover themselves by delaying EN3 so long. Of course I can't just give up my oshi and move to someone else after I've spent 3 years watching her and seeing her grow

That said, there does appear to be some form of "Myth box" and "Council box" that exists, so the goal of a new gen should be to drum up hype and capture people who maybe drifted off before and then keep them locked into a new box. They shouldn't try to just leech from the existing girls.

>> No.46199414

>>46199343
Go back to sucking dicks faggot

>> No.46199426

>>46199297
>No straight person cares about how male looks
is that what you tell yourself every night anon?

>> No.46199429

>>46199367
RPR is a massive leech and a faggot so I think there are people who have a problem with that. It's not in a "professional" capacity anymore since he's made it clear he's a fan looking to get closer to her as well.

>> No.46199431

>>46199375
his first sub 2k so far

>> No.46199437

>>46195596
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy fuck kanata is genuinely mentally ill

>> No.46199438

>>46197411
And they didn’t show up to watch that my point. He said they both have unicorns and more of kanata probably showed up.

>> No.46199467

>>46199343
It's fascinating that you're seething so much at the idea that men, even autistic ones, don't give a single fuck about how pretty an anime man is.
I think you're confused or lost.

>> No.46199482

>>46199189
>Who the fuck wants to watch an ugly male fleshperson if they are looking for a brotuber?
Asmongold is one of the most popular streamers in the world. Imaqtpie used to be around 5-6 years ago and the guy looks like a troll who crawled out from under a bridge.

>> No.46199491

This thread is currently running off pure speculation

>> No.46199514

>>46198244
With a very small thumbnail, it looks like ayame is sucking a cock which is nice

>> No.46199515

>>46199288
prime holo anti dramafag

>> No.46199526

>>46199491
numbers, what are they?

>> No.46199539

>>46199482
>>46199467
>I can only watch males if they are as ugly as me
Normalfags are always obsessed with outward appearance, that's why they care about numbers and doxx

>> No.46199563

Kek fucking Homobeggar will blame anything but their boys for their own shitter status
How about they stop being annoying and actually try to build up a good reputation for the boys fanbase huh?

>> No.46199574

>>46199437
Sisters seething. Kanata will defend Hololives purity. Reminder she's extremely close with Marine and Rurudo too.

>> No.46199585

>>46199426
Go back to /lgbt/.

>> No.46199606

>>46199539
Nobody wants to watch Tempus and there's nothing you can do about it. Continue to seethe.

>> No.46199633

Kekson really empowered the homobeggars and dramafags. Even once again sent them after Kanata. What a retarded cunt she is, I hope she is happy now.

>> No.46199658

>>46198772
Ok I can understand that. Still though, the intimacy that people are coming to Holos for that get upset about this the most is definitely more of "bonding" or "romantic" intimacy of sorts rather than a friendship one which is why I think this topic gets people especially wound up and schizo over

>> No.46199659 [DELETED] 

>>46199606
Dilate, troon

>> No.46199698

>>46196796
Is the shorts meta actually true or random? If just mention gura works, all holos can probably abuse it.

>> No.46199700

>>46199408
They will try to leech gura and the males

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gotcha

>> No.46199705

Hello gentlemen, I hate Neal

>> No.46199719

What happened to people saying fans only watch the blue dorito. Now all of sudden the fans are trying to transform all vtubers into hololive to still not watch them.

>> No.46199726

I don’t want Holostars collab simply because it make beggar seethe, simple as
You don’t get collab by being annoying to people about it, never, even Twitch streamer look down on it

>> No.46199731

>>46199189
most of the male streamers I watch don't even use facecam, male anime avatars are worthless if you aren't into it

>> No.46199759

>>46199085
Personally I think the Stars brand ought to be completely separated from Hololive even if Cover still manages them, the Holo name does nothing for them and arguably hurts them more than anything.

>> No.46199775

>>46196796
Filian is now 1.71M tho.

>> No.46199774

>>46199719
You misunderstand and so does Kson.
I don't want your indies and 2views to be like Hololive. I don't care what they're like, period. I won't watch them either way.

>> No.46199787

>>46199633
sad reality
>how dare this woman that used to be beneath me surpass me

>> No.46199789

>>46199574
nah i just find it funny how over the top her actions are it's like im watching an over the top parody lmao

>> No.46199794

>>46199759
this. it directly compares them to an unreachable standard

>> No.46199822

>>46199726
Oh yeah, then watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm40LpY-vPg

Savor it as much as you can

>> No.46199836

>>46199759
they will never do that because they know that the stars name is cursed, holopro is like 90% of the time mentioned when they can make the stars gain something out of it

>> No.46199858

Stfu /#/, I heard from /hlgg/ that YT is shitting the bed, how does that affect numbers?

>> No.46199867

Have the scum actually gaslighted themselves to believe that people don't want EN3? I thought it was a meme but then again, scum goes apeshit by the mere mention of EN3 so...

>> No.46199875

>>46199658
I was specifically referring to intimacy between a Holo and a collab partner. I would agree that for many fans, the intimacy between Holo and viewer is much more blurred into the romantic territory.

>> No.46199881

>>46199431
Seems like youtube is dying today so perhaps it played a role here but either way zatsu is not really a buff content for this dude anymore, people got bored. He needs another suspension I guess.

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>> No.46199889

>>46199822
Ngl they sound good together. Their voices are a perfect match for each other

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>>46199858
Has been happening like a couple of times now

>> No.46199943

>>46199858
I posted a graph earlier. One person was interested. this is /kekson/ now.

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>> No.46199960

>>46199915
what in god's name is this shit?

>> No.46199961

>>46199915
Jesus I have never seen a graph so…square

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>>46199915(me)
From a moment ago

>> No.46199997

>>46199759
They should be cut loose for sure, but without the association the Stars lose access to a bunch of useful shit paid for by the revenue of the women. Like the Super Expo, for example. Almost nobody goes to that for the dudes and they don't have the clout to host an event anywhere close to the same size alone. So Cover will be very reticent to disassociate them.

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>>46199822
That is... so pathetic

>> No.46200016

>>46199915
>>46199971
based neal

>> No.46200019

>>46199330
That coworkers argument never made sense anyway because it allows you to more easily get intimate than meeting randomly at a club.

>> No.46200023

>>46199563
homobeggars don't watch streams.
They would rather have others to watch something that they don't want to watch.

>> No.46200024

>>46199044
By the time Council rolled in I wasn't a "mythfag", I just had a Myth oshi. So I didn't care and hoped to see more combos (which I got).

New holos refresh the old ones, FACT

>> No.46200028

>>46199971
How? This is so different from the lag in JP server, it basically recovering after the lag in mere second, and pretty accurate too

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You all now remember
>BARCODING
People didn’t even care when it hit, they were too glad numbers were back from CCVID

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>>46200084
Oh yeah, that happened

>> No.46200133

>>46199997
Do we have an IPO bingo? A year ago when Anykara went IPO we were talking about what would happen if Cover go IPO
Might be a good time to brought that up again and see if any of our speculation gonna came true

>> No.46200159

>>46199044
>Kiara and Mumei both felt forced to stream sick in December because of dead hours, which were caused by the lack of new members while the other girls were in Japan
>other HoloEN talents explcitly stating that they want new female kohai
>HoloEN reclining to an absolute low because of the lack of streams and events
>somewhat ledditors still insist that we don't need a new gen while telling others to just watch NijiEN and Tempiss
yes, literal unironic antis

>> No.46200166

>>46199719
what Kson meant is that Vtubing outiside of hololive is going to die because only Hololive generates Gachikois
gachikois (according to her) being mindless drones that watch every single stream and defend their oshi agaist evil regardless of the content she does
Kson dreams of a world where everyone can get those gachis without being Hololive

>> No.46200181

>>46200005
why so mad?

>> No.46200213

>>46198153
This but Marine

>> No.46200217

>>46200166
Pure cope
She didn’t make this statement to benefit anyone, she made it for herself. She is selfish and want everything for herself

>> No.46200228

>>46200129
lol, seismogram youtube

>> No.46200240

So Kobo's new original song is now at 521k views and also she is catching up to Moona in total combine views Moona is currently at 92,317,636 views and Kobo is at 86,785,853 views

>> No.46200245

>>46200159
Don't bring up numbers for ledditors and globalfags, they just go LALLALALALA THEY'RE DOING GREAT LALALALALA

Globalfags will reject any numbers, while redditors will tell you starsEN are doing amazingly and Kiara is some sort of big vtuber

>> No.46200246

>>46200166
>what Kson meant is that Vtubing outiside of hololive is going to die because only Hololive generates Gachikois
Well then make better content retard, if you want gachis you have to pander to them. So stop being a whore.

>> No.46200248

>>46199961
You've never seen versen's graph?

>> No.46200253

>>46199794
More like if they're Holo-whatever everyone just thinks of the girls first anyway. Maybe if they had been VirtuStars or some other name and had no connection all all with the girls they could have had a chance of getting out from that shadow.

>> No.46200256

>>46200024
From Cover's POV, you didn't generate any new revenue. Only shuffled it from some holos to others.
When Council debut, the EN vtuber market was still small and there were plenty of new folks to attract.
However, right now the vtuber scene is more than saturated, it is overpopulated especially with people preferring to watch new small corpos and indies. I highly doubt there is anymore NEW fans in the scene and would only steal fans from the others.

>> No.46200257

>>46200213
Fuck off to /jp/ Marineschizo

>> No.46200260

>>46200166
But her defense force work hard here lately

>> No.46200270

well at least we finally have a subtle confirmation that Omegay is indeed fired/demoted from A-chan

>> No.46200287

>>46199249
Aki and her guitarist friend, I guess

>> No.46200292

>>46200270
Where did you hear that?

>> No.46200293

>>46200166
now don't tell me you believe what she said about she having no gachis

>> No.46200298

>>46200166
easy, be a better content creator, be entertaining

>> No.46200319

>>46200181
Mad? Was just taken aback by the level of cope on display

>> No.46200326

>>46200270
what did I miss?

>> No.46200331

>>46200166
Women have long dreamt of spineless worms that give them everything in exchange for nothing, why is this news?

>> No.46200337

>>46200292
There is no real confirmation but A-chan is taking over the EN channel and doing English Programs and actually trying to breathe life into the HoloEN channel. You know, the thing Omega should've been doing

>> No.46200343

>>46200159
It's attempted sabotage, pure and simple. These people don't care about Hololive, they would happily see it all torn down if their bois and Nijjis could get a little extra CCV.
Fucking Tempus was basically letting foxes into the henhouse of the fanbase, they seen an opening and they're trying to press it.

>> No.46200346

>>46200256
So there should not be EN3 and we should all watch Tempus when HoloEN doesn't stream? Am I getting this right?

>> No.46200362

>>46199997
If they were still under Cover they'd continue to have access to a lot of the same stuff like the studio. I'm saying that their branding should be split off more than anything.

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>>46200166
>everyone can get those gachis without being Hololive
how about they try to be cute instead of bitchy?

>> No.46200371

>>46200166
>Kson dreams of a world where everyone can get those gachis without being Hololive
It’s not. She wants that NOBODY get them and get an undeserved competitive advantage just because they have a carefully manicured public image.

>> No.46200376

>>46200166
Ironic to hear a person who got wiped from Vtuber site talk about Vtubing like she is the center of it
She should wise up and just stream as a normal person

>> No.46200387

>>46200346
That's their plan it seems, saddly for them it clearly didnt work.

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>>46200337
>You know, the thing Omega should've been doing
He liked some tweets, stop being so entitled.

>> No.46200390

>>46200256
Shut up already retard, new gens are coming anyway so why done on this copy pasta again and again?

>> No.46200408

>>46200326
What this anon's said >>46200337

>> No.46200447

Numbers.
How well will the spics RE4 stream do?

>> No.46200446

>>46200337
A-chan taking over the HoloEN channel is kinda cringe since she's ESL as fuck but it does show that the eye of the main branch is upon EN branch wondering what the fuck maangement is doing

>> No.46200450

>>46199077
Are you dumb more girls equal more fun moments. Might bring back Christmas streams or better halloween streams or get someone that can match gura/mumei in their particular feminine autism for new dynamics. I have given up on EN3 cause they will probably have to do the obligatory I’m a fan of holostars ruining any collab with them out the gate but I understand why people are still waiting.

>> No.46200453

>>46200391
Where’s Nodoka tho?

>> No.46200460

>>46200362
Yeah but not stuff like the Expo, the New Years countdown, etc.
Honestly that stuff didn't really incline them anyway but it's part of the reason the split probably will never happen.

>> No.46200468

>>46200447
sub 1k take it or leave it

>> No.46200478

>>46200256
ID growth looked just as bad before ID3.

>> No.46200492

>>46200343
solution is
>i want new girls in holo to collab with my oshi
>no, my oshi doesn't collab with males
>what, do you want to force her to do it? *shows holopro tweet about free of collabs*
>no, i will not watch others, i'm loyal to my oshi

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>>46200446
>since she's ESL as fuck
She's gotten much better and is still studying and her doing this will only improve her English. I fucking applaud her for stepping up when no one else will.

>> No.46200510

>>46200447
3view

>> No.46200524

>>46200166
>Kson dreams of a world where the people that do a shit job get rewarded as much as the employee of the month
In short, she's a communist. I guess she has more in common with the chinks than I thought.

>> No.46200527

>>46200446
>cringe
lol no
>she's ESL as fuck
anon, half the branch is ESL-tier
having the manager being cute ESL will just breathe life into the EN main channel (not saying it'll incline it, with the absolute state of it, that'd be a miracle)

>> No.46200529

>>46200460
Unironically trying to make Stars-only Expo sound impossible. I’m not sure if they can even return the cost
So there are certainly budget reason to include them in HoloExpo

>> No.46200544

>>46200446
>cringe
This word is a massive shibboleth, you can smell the stench of Twitch, react content and pog-tier memes

>> No.46200554

>>46200446
>kinda cringe since she's ESL as fuck
Only one cringe is (you).

>> No.46200591

>>46200529
Didnt they mde one a couple years ago? Or was that a concert thing only?

>> No.46200593

>>46200524
she's not smart enough to be a communist
she's just a woman (3D)

>> No.46200599

Birthday Sets:
Females: $322,763.83
Males: $988,228.54

Lazulight: $106,172.06
Obysdia: $92,730.41
Ethyria: $100,777.42
Luxiem: $704,257.95
Noctyx: $209,937.65 - No Fulgur/Yugo
Iluna: $77,209.44 - No Ren
Xsoleil: $19,907.44 - Doppio Only

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>>46200391 (me)
whoops fucked up the soundpost filename

>> No.46200619

Ah shit I suddenly kind of miss Shinove
Making a Vtuber manager figure really is hard isn’t it? Stars haven’t had a new manager figure leading them ever since Shinove left

>> No.46200623

>>46200446
Source? Why are people believing a post with no evidence?

>> No.46200630

>>46200446
>cringe
>>>/f/uck
>>>/o/utta
>>>/h/ere

>> No.46200632

>>46200544
>>46200554
>>46200527
Faggots please, people will whine IDs are too ESL, let alone A-chan. Ah well, I hope she proves me wrong, but most importantly I hope she's a harbinger of things to come.

>> No.46200651

>>46200453
Nodoka is in charge of holoplus

>> No.46200650

>>46200623
>Why are people believing a post with no evidence?
A-chan member stream. Unironically.

>> No.46200654

>>46199204
People that have abandoned the current girls for whatever reason might like the new girls same thing happened with council. Amount of sc don’t matter it’s the ones with deep pockets IRyS picked up a new semi whale about 4 or 5 months ago that man donates 1-2 red supers every stream at minimum

>> No.46200678

>>46200619
Why the fuck hasn't Omega nutted up and gotten on stream?
It's obvious why he couldn't for the girls, but now he has precious boys to interact with. What is that dude's problem? Why did he make the company pay for a model and design to never use it?

>> No.46200682

>>46200591
It’s a concert
Expo require actual venue being hired out and not just a stage, and given the size of Stars even the smallest venue still wouldn’t be worth it for them

>> No.46200696

>>46200446
>>46200337
A-chan did a watchalong of the Tempiss debuts and made thirsty Tweets about bara Yasuo's pecs. All while her right hand was busy shipping herself with the tard dingoman. Why are you acting like she had nothing to do with the shitshow in HoloEN and she's going to somewhat fix things?

>> No.46200741

>>46200630
>>46200554
>>46200544
>suddenly the word cringe is illegal
You wouldn't care if you didn't think it was an attack on A-chan(it ain't, girl did her best to learn English, she's just not "decent for an extended interaction with ENs" there yet).
Then again i can't keep up with what you niggers call twitch or leddit or whatever. I like a-chan, is AWKWARD a better word for you to convey what I meant?

>> No.46200743

>>46200696
Hello absolute retard.

>> No.46200746

>>46200478
Kobo is a true 'ID vtuber' that appeals and speaks indonesian. The ID market was not overpopulated with ID speaking vtubers.
In the case of Kaela and Zeta, I am convinced they stole viewers from Moona, Ollie, Reine, Anya etc..
So EN3 should have someone charismatic in a completely untapped market like 'Sports' (NBA, NFL, PL) or 'India' etc..

>> No.46200749

>>46200166
Why is she relevant again?

>> No.46200750

>>46200599
Damn, no wonder Luxiem runs the show over there

>> No.46200761

>>46200632
I’m not even talking about whatever the fuck you’re talking, what I’m saying that calling something “cringe” in this place is the equivalent of calling vtubers “livers”, except for twitch retards instead of niji retards

>> No.46200771

>>46200696
Yellow fever

>> No.46200776

>>46200678
Who know?
There are thousands of possible reasons. But I really don’t want to make baseless assumption again

>> No.46200773

Sucks to be you faggot, I'll be enjoying her ASMR while pandering to my kagai ass

>> No.46200793

>>46200447
Tempoop star had probably his lowest gaming stream numbers for it.
Expect similar situation here, unless raid happens.

>> No.46200798

>>46200632
>people will whine IDs are too ESL, let alone A-chan
What does that even mean, ESLchama?

>> No.46200815

So why there are anons that want us to hate A-chan? do we really hate A-chan and Nodoka?

>> No.46200833

>>46200696
Because Omega was THAT bad, A-Chan is instantly an improvement to him

>> No.46200840

>>46200815
negros, the lot of them

>> No.46200853

>>46200773
?
who are you talking to?

>> No.46200854

>>46200696
Who knows. Bothers me how uncomunicative Cover is with the fanbase. We never have any fucking insight what they are thinking.

>> No.46200856

I think a member stream where Nodoka licks AZKi's thighs while she's trying to sing would boost official channel's memberships significantly

>> No.46200871

>>46200603
do the girls actually hate him too

>> No.46200890

>>46200599
These stats literally don’t even matter anymore because of the great freefall of 2023. Back in 22 homos were all getting 3-4k ccv each and luxiem were all 9-10k streamers outside of Ike. Now luxiem can’t even pull 5k or even 4k sometimes and noctyx is pretty much dead outside of Fungus.

The drop in revenue is going to be very apparant this year

>> No.46200897

>>46200815
Tempus fans don't like the insinuation that Omega is in trouble and got replaced or is being more closely scrutinized, because the implication would be that his mistake is the existence of their oshis

>> No.46200903

>>46200815
They are afraid that she will clean Omegas mess.

>> No.46200904

>>46200871
Every time anyone refers to omega it is neutral at BEST, never any level of praise

>> No.46200910

>>46200746
>So EN3 should have someone charismatic in a completely untapped market like 'Sports' (NBA, NFL, PL) or 'India'
I don't know why I bother reading posts in this thread, some of you are genuinely so stupid it causes damage

>> No.46200913

>>46200696
Putting official channel under Kronii's control would be an improvement over it's current state anon

>> No.46200941

>>46200741
See >>46200761. Also
>illegal
What a retard

>AWKWARD
Yes, retard, it conveys much better the idea you’re trying to push instead of a genericized catchall zoomer label

>> No.46200970

>>46200761
And I say bullshit, you just had a knee jerk reaction to a word cause you thought it attacked A-chan. It gets thrown around plenty /here/. But oh well i'm sure you'll contest this and we can point at each other calling each other newfags blah blah let's just skip it.

>> No.46200987

Let me get this straight. /#/ went on an insane shitposting spree during the event saying"Oh no no male voice on Pekoras stream!" and saying that they were all whores for appearing in it. Now you're clutching your pearls about Kanata going out of her way to avoid that exact thing?

You fucking faggots are unreal

>> No.46200995

>>46198453
Most people are loyal to their oshi this is already wrong people want it to see integrate with SNOT or CHaD or maybe make something with Kiara

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>>46200746
>untapped market

>> No.46201020

>>46200599
Gura/Miko/Peko outsold this entire branch rumao

>> No.46201057

>>46200987
hello sister, i'm glad you are back from shitting other threads

>> No.46201074

>>46200650
>We have people unironically membered to the Hololive main channel in here
The worst thing is that I can't check if you guys are bullshitting because no one else on this board is talking about this

>> No.46201083

>>46200970
NTA but you seem like your pwecious feewings are wittle bit hurt.

>> No.46201093

>>46200987
>/#/ went on an insane shitposting spree during the event saying"Oh no no male voice on Pekoras stream!"
Those were shitposters

>Now you're clutching your pearls about Kanata going out of her way to avoid that exact thing?
These are also shitposters

>> No.46201096

>>46200987
Nice way of selecting your narrative sister, maybe you should go dumpster diving and thread again

>> No.46201115

>>46200941
Whatever mate, first time I ever saw you fags react like this and I've been here for a year+(in /#/, not just 4chan). You just thought I was some nijinigger shitting on a-chan and acted like I said incel. Cringe

>> No.46201149

>>46201074
>i'm gonna say that you are making shit because i don't want to do archive reps from last night

>> No.46201171

>>46201074
>because no one else on this board is talking about this
It was getting talked about when she said it earlier today retard

>> No.46201183

>>46201115
aww, the tourist thinks his opinion matters

>> No.46201193
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>>46200890
Maybe in their debut month and May. Within his second week Regid was getting 2k streams

>> No.46201219

>>46200970
I genuinely didn’t even read what you say for the most part, but based on the widespread rejection of the word I was not the only one to assume you’re some sort of twitchtard

>> No.46201218

>>46201115
>incel
But enough about you.

>> No.46201250

>>46201183
Me
I am the tourist
I regularly visit generals and blend in, pretending to be different fanbases after studying up their behavior

>> No.46201249

>>46201074
It's like how many threads just this day if you did your archive reps

>> No.46201253

>>46200746
>Lucrative Indonesian Market

>> No.46201255

>>46200987
Those were shitposters anon. You got baited in by shitposters.
Though you shouldn’t expect much consistency out of /#/ to begin with. For whatever reason, after the Kronii drama this thread became infested with unicorns who go batshit about even the slightest mention of males or any girl being involved.

>> No.46201287

>>46201020
Yeah, I'm mean that's why they put out new wave every 3 month

>> No.46201289

>>46195877
How much do corpo chuubas even rely on the algo other than for music and shorts perhaps? I always thought it's mostly about clips, few people come through browsing yt gaming because it's so shit etc. constatntly raiding each other keeps people in nijibox instead of going to holos so it makes sense, same reason why raids are so important for homos to create their own homobox.

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>>46200987
Exactly, I can't believe anons are already memoryholing all those organic and authentic complaints during the event

>> No.46201302

>>46200987
>>46201255
Samefag?
Samefag.

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>>46201250
Goddamn

>> No.46201333

>>46201255
Damn, sis really loves to rewrite history huh

>> No.46201347

>>46201093
Doesn't matter if you say you're just shitposting when those posts are actually used to smear Holos by accounts lile bannedvtmemes

>> No.46201359

>>46201115
>I've been here for a year
kek, ia this the 2023 version of
>I’m not a newfag, I’ve been here all summer
?

I can only dread the idea of people having parachuted in this thread after fucking Noctyx debut and based on your vocabulary it might have been DUE TO Noctyx debut

>> No.46201368

>>46199774
My boy that’s my point they were originally saying people only watch the blue dorito and won’t watch people that are more entertaining, not really. Now they or people who think kson meant hololive claim fans are trying to turn vtubers they don’t watch into hololive. This is the disconnect

>> No.46201386

>>46201255
I never engage with shitposters, like, imagine feeling like you have to defend your oshi on 4ch of all places, we all know nothing here affect anything. We are even being used as contents to farm views

>> No.46201393

>>46200446
>cover invested money in a design
>some poor artist had hopes that he made into the big leagues by becoming a holo papa
>a channel was made
>a twitter was made
>All to fill the ego of some secret manager only for it to never be used
Meanwhile you have Fauna begging for people to watch things like the Halloween project so they can get support for more

>> No.46201430

>>46201368
Oh I see, sorry, misread your post.

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>>46201255
>t.

>> No.46201456

>>46201255
Kronii deliberately becoming Vespers cum bucket to prove a point is a little bit different than Pekora appearing in official event and having a male MC on her stream for a few mins

>> No.46201488

>>46201074
do your reps retard, it hasn't even been a day since she talked about it

>> No.46201495

>>46201250
wise up, faggots, we got a 4chan intellectual in the thread

>> No.46201515

>>46201074
here retard >>46175668 now fuck off

>> No.46201521

>>46201437
no need to gore-post

>> No.46201549

>>46201521
gomen, i'll spoiler next time

>> No.46201567
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>>46201393
>some poor artist had hopes that he made into the big leagues by becoming a holo papa
His artist is pretty good too, really a horrible waste.

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>>46201347
>Doesn't matter if you say you're just shitposting
The people shitposting wanted that exact outcome.

The sandniggers have an appropriate saying tho
>The dogs bark but the caravan moves on

Today was just another day, with another Holo beating 70k on a run of the mill outfit reveal.
That’s a number very few vtubers outside of Hololive could dream of achieving in a live stream but for Holos? Just a regular ass Wednesday

>> No.46201673

>Yagoo attended every EN management meeting (to practice English)
>A-chan took over main EN channel
>EN actually got something as close to JP treatment as possible
Is it now beyond reasonable doubts that JP management is now using more direct approach with EN. fr?

>> No.46201692

>>46201617
Please specify HoloJP to avoid giving the impression the failed EN branch is included in that

>> No.46201703

>>46201673
Fucking hope so. It's been a long time coming that they actually at least pretended to give a shit about EN

>> No.46201744

>>46201673
I agree this is probably true.
I think something changed over the winter, after Gura's NotGura scare tweet and then her big break along with the huge fuckup of Tempus2 and the bad reception. Somebody finally realized that EN management was a raging dumpster fire about to collapse the whole branch. All just speculation, of course.

>> No.46201757

>>46201393
You forgot
>has a distinctive ESL holier than thou typing style
>drew ire from a large chunk of the people aware of him
combined these two ensure they can't even like, slot Jenma in there or something

>> No.46201782

>>46201744
Think it started around HalloweEN honestly, that shit was out of fucking nowhere.

>> No.46201821

>>46201250
you should have studied /#/ a lot better, human chameleon

>> No.46201844

>>46201673
Giving credence to the rrats that the EN girls meetings in JP was packed filled with grievances about their branch management

>> No.46201849

ENTER
OVERLAP GOLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cKtiicBHyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cKtiicBHyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cKtiicBHyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cKtiicBHyg

>> No.46201878

>>46201821
Nah I just need to be myself in here and no one would notice

>> No.46201879

>>46201782
halloweEN stories were commissioned to Fauna end of september, around the time holoEN management did the tweet

>> No.46201883

>>46201849
sasuga, overluffson

>> No.46201894

>>46201849
Kek of course she's overlapping her favorite prey Fauna

>> No.46201910

>>46196356
She doesn't really act like Coco though, her whole approach to Vtubing seem to be just avatar fot no-makeup day similar how it was advertised to flesh streamers on twitch and really what she did before holo but that's not what hololive fans came to expect.

>> No.46201913

>>46201849
I swear this girl only wanna stream when she can overlap something.

>> No.46201919

>>46201849
Yes, yes, stream Oblivion THIS Fucking early when they were always late night before, Ame! Just fuck over Fauna for no real reason!

>> No.46201923

>>46201673
Oh it's beyond a reasonable doubt that they're getting more hands-on with EN now. It's all speculation on how much of that comes down to the main branch feeling like the EN branch has been mismanaged, but either way something has changed

>> No.46201931

>>46200256
Let’s say that retarded take is true it would mean introducing council led to no drop in revenue from the year before. Why would he think introducing males would reach the same revenue as opposed to more girls

>> No.46201936

>>46201744
Unironically i believe the NotGura tweet was a powerflex. A literal sleeping giant awakens moment

>>46201782
Reminder that all that shit was going on while Tempus 2 was being onboarded

>> No.46201937

>>46201849
>>46197252
i fucking knew it

>> No.46201968

>>46201673
You forgot, A-chan (creative director) has also been in the EN management meetings with Yagoo.

>> No.46201973

>>46201849
Unironically based to be this consistent at debuffing yourself, GO AME GO

>> No.46201980

>>46201849
Is she still seething because Cover did not invite her back for more recordings or what??? KEK

>> No.46201997

>>46201849
>She hasn't even talked to her ISP yet despite it being over a fucking day since her last stream which got fucked over because of the ISP
I actually genuinely hate this woman

>> No.46202025

>>46201744
That was at the same time that Vesper got himself suspended in record time as well.

>> No.46202026

>>46201936
Imagine the horror JP management would have if Gura complained to them and expressed being miserable at her job due to constant management incompetence and interference. They were probably in the process, right that moment, of making her one of the centerpieces for their HoloFes4 ad campaign and a big feature of their IPO presentation.

>> No.46202029

>>46201744
>In this post we pretend that the decision to debut 8 Homos didn't come from upper management

>> No.46202054

>>46201878
It’s not different to impersonate the average dweller of this thread

>〇〇k DORIYAAAH AH AH
>〇〇, I kneel!
>OH NO NO NO NO, 〇〇 MOGGED!
>nijinigger (x24)

>> No.46202053

>>46201849
I'll be watching Fauna

>> No.46202061

ID4

>> No.46202098

>>46202029
Yes, but probably at the "advice" of their supreme expert EN management team, responsible (kek) for the overwhelming success of HoloMyth!

>> No.46202107

>>46202061
HOLY SHIT

>> No.46202108

March median CCV in NijiEN, with quantity of stream per month
Shu - 7,202, 10 streams
Mysta - 5,400, 13 streams
Luca - 4,941, 17 streams
Vox - 4,716, 26 streams
Ike - 2,853, 17 streams
Pomu - 2,801, 25 streams
Selen - 2,777, 23 streams
Fulgur - 2,755, 20 streams
Enna - 2,635, 12 streams
Alban - 2,486, 18 streams
Uki - 2,234, 24 streams
Elira - 2,120, 27 streams
Rosemi - 2,052, 19 streams
Nina - 2,041, 21 streams
Ren - 2,080, 11 streams
Sonny - 1,915, 19 streams
Millie - 1,674, 32 streams
Hex - 1,459, 24 streams
Kotoka - 1,412, 24 streams
Kyo - 1,358, 19 streams
Meloco - 1,342, 17 streams
Doppio - 1,164, 19 streams
Petra - 1,140, 21 streams
Scarle - 1,139, 38 streams
Ver - 1,094, 16 streams
Finana - 1,043, 20 streams
Maria - 860, 15 streams
Reimu - 804, 25 streams
Aia - 674, 26 streams
Aster - 544, 25 streams

>> No.46202123

>>46201936
I believe in the NotGura powerflex. Out of nowhere and that was it. I wonder if she actually contacted any of the leeches in her replies

>> No.46202128

>>46202054
if by purely going by shitposts sure at least you'd be easily identifiable

>> No.46202137

>>46201744
>I think something changed over the winter
during Ina and Gura break... Then JP visit happens, Ina and Gura were also the first two who met A-chan

>> No.46202136

>>46202029
I mean, it's also possible that omegay and xer goons actually convince the upper management about it. Remember how Yagoo said that apparently "Western fans has different expectation for Hololive"?

Like who the fuck even told him that?

>> No.46202146

>>46201923
Yagoo did say that their growth plan involves increasing their overseas business. It's only natural that he gets more hands-on with the overseas branch.

>> No.46202151

>>46201782
NotGura tweeted around the time they got the last two members of T2. Which probably caused a whole lot of panic and EN management wanted something to distract from it.

>> No.46202171

>>46196003
When you look at regular "flesh" male streamers almost none of them would rely on collabing with females to get numbers (quite the opposite really thots come to them), why would homos be different?

>> No.46202197

HoloEN horserace today. Gura > Fauna > Debuffson > Bae

>> No.46202215

>>46202197
This isn't a horse race and Bae will beat Fauna

>> No.46202217

>>46202151
wasn't that tweet after the vesper suspension?

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