/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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A thread for the discussion of the fetus deletus reaper yeetus of vods herself, Mori Calliope, and the members of her deadbeat tech team.

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I FUCKING LOVE KAWAIIOPE MORIRIN AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER

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pregnant mood swings

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Rene is having fun rolling some dice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqaDxLPF6rk

Roki is still good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nI1CDsNZI0

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MORI

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Mori love!

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The storm will pass, until then, remember to keep banging to her songs, and to ignore the /hlgg/ tourists.

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>>4606753
This is the post redditors were chimping out over? The whole damn essay's worded so soft I could wipe my ass with it. He could've gone much harder and been a lot less nice with his wording.

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>>4608339
the schizos from >here that always feel the need to write thesis papers on off-hand comments she made or whatever dumb fuckup she does and post them in her comments are 200% more cringe than any redditor

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>>4608085
Right now as we speak. Mori is going to do a crash course with Linus and his Tech Tips™

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why did she delete the stream? the phasma part was fine

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>>4608396
Again, always astounded that Mori can say she welcomes constructive criticism and yet deadbeats are the first to scream at you if you actually deliver it to her.

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>>4608470
it's the same few dudes who make a mountain out of a molehill and then get on their high horse about it and wont shut up about it for days

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>>4608325
This thread lives the most rentfree in hlgg’s head. Even more than hlg sometimes

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she sounds upset on twitter I hope shes okay

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MORI LOVE

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>>4608470
Same, Mori will learn or not it's a whatever. People are giving her a chance to learn and they're being very vocal about it

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>>4608339
It was actually the best comment I could've seen that actually worded everything concisely and made a good point without it sounding like complaining. Niko's based in that regard.

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I just feel really bad for her rn and I hope she's okay

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>>4608453
So she can be passive aggressive about it on her T12 streams and get a shitload of pity superchats.

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>>4608453
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>>4608470
menhera

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>>4608514
>>4608568
She's an adult she suffered much worse

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>>4608502
No even some regulars were agreeing. I don't think the particular stream was that bad, I think people are just mad about karaoke continually being pushed and the pretty average streams we've had since she came back. Maybe the week off gave some dead beats some perspective on her stream quality, who knows.

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>>4608453
I caught the phasma stuff at work when I tuned in late and was confused but it was fun for the 30ish min I had it on

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Asking in the deadbeat thread. You guys don't actually think her saying "clearly I needed more time off" was passive aggressive right?

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>>4608657
I figured karaoke is just getting pushed around because she's recording shit off-stream and doesn't want to screw up her voice before she's done.

She's done 3 streams since coming back. The phasmo collab was good, the chatting stream was fine and the bubble drama is absolutely retarded. I didn't watch the FNF stream but 3 is still a shitty sample size.

Also she was off a week so she could take care of medical shit. Idk why people got it in their head she's going to have some grand re-debut and blow everything out of the water because she didn't stream for a week.

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If she can take getting booed off-stage, which she has been, then YouTube comments criticizing her mistakes aren't going to make her suicidal. The only downside to getting called out by pink skulls is if she doesn't actually improve on her issues or doubles down.

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>>4608744
Nah, it was just a form of self-depreciation.

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>>4608744
what else would it be, other than a way of making people who criticize her feel bad?

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>>4608316
I need to make a new folder for Yandere Moris

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>>4608804
I really hope she doesn't genuinely feel that way

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>>4608744
I think that was just roasting herself, she's not really the type to be passive aggressive/snide in this way (unironically)

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>>4608744
I got a massive sense of self hate from it, which fits her pretty well

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>>4608788
I don't know, I thought it was a bit weak for a Mori zatsudan, and Fnf was worse than the first stream, she basically spent an hour fighting Tankman and then quit because she had an appointment she was almost late to. Personally I didn't expect something grand, but I was at least hoping for her usual quality. It's not like she had no break since she said she went into the mountains.

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>>4608744
The entire tweet seemed passive-aggressive but it was also self-deprecating. Shit clearly got to her and I just hope she doesn't feel too bad about it.

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>>4608927
About needing more time off? Not genuinely. I'm going out on a limb here but I feel like its self-depreciating as a coping mechanism, the line of thought being something like 'wow Mori you took a week off to recharge and here you are making the same fuckups again!'.

Of course this is just speculation based largely on my own use of self-depreciation as a form of cope.

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>>4608174
BVoxx also released an Alien Alien cover and it slaps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ciKGTCXoos

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>>4609055
It was a poorly worded tweet and probably something she shouldn't have tweeted. I'm actually surprised management didn't ask her to delete it considering how much it baits concernfagging.

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>>4608744
>passive-aggressive
No, just her being stupid.
>first stream back, get showered with praise (and money, literally $15k) and practically nothing but good comments
>second stream back, get showered with praise even though it got cut short because you still can't manage your schedule
>third stream back, fuck up the first 20 minutes because you don't listen to anybody and think you can will a solution into existence, rest of the stream goes perfectly fine, some people finally start voicing their frustrations over issues that have been present since September in your comments, not randoms either but your members
>the only thing that sticks in her mind is the last stream because people are calling out her worst habits

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>>4609165
>I'm actually surprised management didn't ask her to delete it considering how much it baits concernfagging.
Why would they? Her sudden message before she took off baited concernfags too and it got her over fifteen hundred dollars as a result.

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>>4609181
it wasn't even particularly scalding criticism either, just 'you talked about wanting to improve streams, here's some things you can improve that are cropping up regularly, even in the return streams'

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>>4608744
What is it if not passive-aggresive? What the fuck did she mean by it anyway? Is she implying that the stream would somehow have been better if she took an even longer break? We don't even fucking know what caused the fucking break.

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>>4609244
It wasn't and I've said as much. Deadbeats were tossing Mori softballs as far as criticism goes, and everything that was mentioned in those posts is something she herself has talked about.

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>>4609131
It is pretty fucking good.

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>>4608339
how the tide turns, last comment I seen was a very positive one on Roki

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I bet Calli is upset these days because Cover wont let her read "pride month" superchats

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>>4608339
You'd have a point if this wasn't the same guy seething for the past several threads because of the delayed karaoke and Shadowverse. The other comment floating around was actual constructive criticism while Nikodem's did nothing but point out flaws without offering advice. Nothing based about some herebeat wanting to make Mori depressed so he can groom them.

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>>4608163
Based as usual kawaiiope poster

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>>4609403
Bull fucking shit. Eat an ogey, rrat.

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Hell, if we're talking about things that are actually annoying, I find it far more grating that when something easily avoidable goes wrong people just excuse it as "scuff".
>haha classic EN curse the scuff we love the scuff bros the scuffffffff
No, that's not fucking scuff. Polka having a shit PC and having to work around it, that's scuff. ISP issues that can't be resolved by just switching to a different provider, that's scuff. Choosing to just not do something, like make sure everything works before it's showtime, isn't scuff, it's just being dumb.

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>>4609072
i read it that way and then when I saw how people here spun it I had to rethink it, but I still think this is correct
if she was actually being passive aggressive I would be really disappointed in her for it. especially then because it would mean she took away the vod from everyone as a extra gut punch and I REALLY dont think she would be that petty EVER

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she really should have delayed the whole collab instead of trying to download cuphead on the fly

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>>4609399
cute rrat.

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So realistically, who were "they" that shat on Mori's botched morning stream?
>Reddit takes it in the ass for her
>Twitter swallows her spunk in praise
>She allegedly doesn't even come here
The only place i could think of are from within her own company or maybe some disc servers she visits?

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>>4608600
I find funny that you call her that...
menhera killer

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>>4609403
>he's here
>she's here
>they're here
>EVERYBODY IS HERE
Take your meds. /vt/ is not the center of the universe.
>while Nikodem's did nothing but point out flaws without offering advice.
What's the advice for checking to remembering to download a game before you make it your back-up for a stream that's not going to kick off properly? To do it? Most people wouldn't need to be told that. Same with making sure games work, not scheduling streams in such a way that you feel the need to rush through them because you have a meeting in a few minutes, etc.

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>>4609403
nah he's alright

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>>4609403
they actually left positive gameplay advice under SV streams/was SCing tips in the stream, so I don't think they're part of the shadoba seethe brigade

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>Finally watch the archive of the stream
>mori made a thumbnail for Phantasma
>She literally has enough time to prep making one but not enough time to click on the install button
Going to be frank here. Mori totally does set aside time for prep work shes just fucking dumb and all of us here need to make peace with that.

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>>4609532
Some members in the youtube comment section. Or if you want a rrat J Chad. Some people also thought Gura, but she just said on her stream she went to sleep after the collab and from the way she was talking it doesn't sound like she even knows it was privated.

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>>4609403
I don't really see how you make the mental connection between wanting Mori to stop timelooping herself and grooming

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Even if you separate the rrats from everything else, Mori's issues are almost all wholly self-inflicted. She gets in her own way, points how she does it, says she'll work to fix it, and then does it again at a later date.

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>>4609768
I'd be willing to accept the Steam-version of RCG mighta taken her for a spin though. She seemingly asked for every other version of permission for it but didn't think Steam would be a subset permission

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>>4609752
Yeah, besides. If anyone here's grooming Mori, it's me.

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>>4609752
Everyone is grooming everyone while simultaneously being groomed anon. get with the times!

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Morippippi, the magnoliguh state

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FUCK /HLGG/ except the takobros, they're cool, and their oshi is even cooler.

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>>4609403
>>4609542
honestly, since the issues are mostly tied to scheduling, how was he supposed to suggest a solution when he isn't aware of their schedule?
at that point you can only really point out perceivable flaws/potential problems with current setup and let Mori or J-chad sort it out

the scuff part seems to reference the multitude of times Deadbeats provided relatively clear advice, only so they could be put aside so she could try doing her thing - and that's how we got people playing Xrd, or Gura playing Cuphead under 11-15 frames of delay, both cases leading to Mori apologizing profusely and beating herself up for not listening
what advice do you offer afterwards after what was already provided?

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>>4609752
Lesbianbeat was freaking out in the last thread that people wanted to make Mori depressed so she's rely on her fanbase and go further menhera for her fanbase and rely on those that are looking at Mori more romantically inclined/Breeders. I don't know if thats lesbianbeat freaking out again but that is where the line of thought started.

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I don't know how I should feel about Mori's constant casual mentions of committing suicide

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>>4610236
tl;dr : Bully her into becoming GFE?

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>>4610221
Exactly. It's easy to say something empty like "provide a solution instead of just pointing out issues", not so easy to acknowledge that solutions have been provided time and time again and were disregarded because Mori's skull is too thick. At some point, you need to rip the band-aid off, tell it like it is, and leave things at the decision to either fix it or continue feeling bad over it. There are only so many ways people can say "You should've listed when everyone warned you that this would happen"

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>>4610356
Its common among people who work in the arts, don't worry about it.

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>>4610356
Think of it the same way as when >we tell you to kill yourself. We might want it really really bad. You won't do it though, faggot. You'll just go and live another day and there will be no consequence. Her own brain plays both sides.

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>>4610356
That's just her generation's brand of humor.

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You know whose fault this really is? That damn bird...

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>>4610236
they chose a weird target this time, outside couple ghostling moment the dude seems to keep it pretty real with her, generally supportive and even the critical comments don't come off particularly guilt-trippy
hell, he's probably as big of a saviorfag as her, still seen them in topsis stream today

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>>4610356
She's not serious anon, she just loves to pout.

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>>4610356
It's just a cry for help anon.

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>>4610356
Consider her age, the themes she's consistently rolled with, and the site she visits. Her sense of humor is as fucked as the rest of ours.

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>>4610356
that's just part of being a millennial, and probably why a lot of her audience is millennials too

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>>4610488
Kiddiebeats and SEAbeats are ghostlings in denial, they worship Mori like ghostlings here, but they genuinely place her on a pedestal, above themselves and any criticism anyone can levy at her. Herebeats and ghostlings can recognize when she does stupid bullshit and regularly post about how much they love their stupid bitch oshi. like me

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>Cuckbeats slowly coming to the realization Mori has zero passion for vtubing and will only begrudgingly improve if her fans actually complain
It's a thing of beauty. I look forward to all of you kneeling to me when it hits home I was right all along and you were all delusional retards blinded by a big titty Live 2D

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Moral of the story: DO Not throw shade on Mori before a "break". It tends to make doomposters and concernposters appear.

The real thing here is that it's growing pains that we're all too familiar with. >We all stumble and stumble, but Mori's character will not allow it to stick. She'll figure out something, and we'll kneel by the end of this month.

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>>4610615
Ogey Marco.

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>>4610615
ogey

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>>4610615
O to the GEY

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>>4608744
it kinda does seem like passive aggressive. a bit

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>>4610615
Nah I knew she was a shit streamer from the start. I embrace the scuff though now, especially since I can’t catch her live anymore anyways

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>>4610660
I'm not going to wait for some arbitrary time limit to be up before I post. If she fucks something up, something that's actually within her realm of control, I'm gonna say it. I'm not going to wait for her to fuck up again at some unknown time in the future so I can post it and hope it's convenient because I don't want her to fuck up again in the first place, I want Mori's streams to be a smooth experience for all sides.

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>>4610236
I can never take the word breeders seriously. Anyway that's such a weird thing to be concerned about of all the things that happened to Mori

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>>4608744
It can definitely be interpreted as passive-aggressiveness and that would be understandable, but it was probably not intended to be

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>>4610487
Still don’t understand why she wasn’t able to get a new visa like Mori

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Heres a take: none of this is Mori's fault.
She's a TALENT. she brings in big money. she shouldnt have to deal with permissions, or have to remember anything important. She should be able to put all her focus into songwriting and streaming, and all the prep and permissions stuff should be on J-Chad.
Yes, I am blaming J-Chad for all of this. How hard is it to send Mori a discord message telling her if something will work? or to remind her of something mori didnt have to think about for over a week?

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>>4610874
She chose not to. She missed her cats and family so she willingly decided to leave

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>>4610874
Kiara didn't want to renew, and her particular visa was Austr(al)ian specific to allow basically a 1-year "do whatever" travel visa. She went home by choice

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>>4610874
Didn't want one.

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>>4610615
Back to the containment thread.

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>>4610546
>the site she visits
twitter?

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>>4610221
If he doesn't know her schedule behind the scenes, how is he qualified to give actual criticism worth a damn then? We are just fans. He doesn't know, you don't know, I don't know her busy schedule outside of what she openly shares. So all this bitching because things have to get delayed or streams needing to be scheduled so close to meetings is pointless unless you're suggesting she completely overhaul her life to meet some critic's demands.

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>>4609025
>Fnf was worse than the first stream
It was always doomed to be worse than the first stream to be fair. The novelty of Mori experiencing every level for the first time and getting her ass whooped by tankman was only going to last one stream.
I'm sure whenever the full game releases and they get those holo mod permissions that stream will be significantly better.
>I thought it was a bit weak for a Mori zatsudan
I'm split on it. First half was meh but I enjoyed when she got on her "soapbox" later on.

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>>4610894
here's a real take, if calli is going to have her own manager because she does a bunch of music shit, lower the 6 STREAMS A WEEK MINIMUM requirement for her. or in fact, remove it from all the ENs, they're established, they can run their own channel.

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>>4610894
The scheduling issues are Mori's fault, she makes her own schedules. Making sure you have a game installed before a stream is also something she has control over. No one is blaming her for the RCG cancellation.

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>>4610894
This is true. It would really help if she has someone handle the prep for collabs because she isn't doing a good job at it. It's probably that she wants to do it by herself and not bother J-chad

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I want to have 1500ms ping sex with Calli with no client side prediction!

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>>4610894
>>4611017
These are both retarded takes and you should stop posting before I give you wedgies.

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>>4610392
I think that was what she was ranting about. Lesbian delusions are beyond me.

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>>4610894
I don't think this is how it works, but it should work. If they want the talents to be creative and put inspired content, it'll be nice for them to not need to be worried about that shit.

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>>4610208
I want to FUCK Ina.

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>>4610660
Pretty much. It's all good, she comes back feeling like she's ready to make stuff happen. She had something small blow up in her face (and that will happen occasionally to everyone, no matter how skilled) but she worked through it. It's just afterwards she thought "Wow that sucked. I was warned it would." and felt strongly enough to address it. In what I would agree with calling an overreaction.
We all want to see her fix those small things holding her back. She already gives so many reasons to kneel for her, this would just be the icing on the cake. I would feel bad for her antis because she would be approaching the level of unstoppable.

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>>4610894
Thing is, she has to tell J-chad, her manager, what she wants ahead of time. She admitted to not asking in time for Steam specific permissions. As in she needs to ask J-chad to get the permissions for her.
It's still her fault, but can understand since Steam should not be a standalone request

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>>4610584
I do hate that I love this bitch but I also wouldn't have it any other way.

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>>4611074
pff, imagine cumming in Mori with 1500ms delay. Oh wait, you can't, she'd be off your dick and cleaning up before you actually let loose.

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>>4610874
I believe it was a one year one which couldn't be renewed. She would have the go through the entire process again. Besides, she was also missing her home and cats. It was time for her to go back to them. When things stop being shit then the girls can visit each other.

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>>4611121
>felt strongly enough to address it. In what I would agree with calling an overreaction.
I think everytime Mori gets criticism, her response is her ending up focusing on the wrong thing, in this case privating the entire vod with no word on if it will come back instead of just editing out the first chunk

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>>4610991
>don't say anything at all because you don't know, maybe something is happening behind the scenes
>or maybe not, I dunno
What a stupid bitch mentality. Are you a woman? Mori is in charge of her own schedule, she sets the times and dates for her streams, she decides how long they go for (unless it's specifically a sponsorship with a time limit), the ball is in her court. Nobody tells her to pick up a thousand different side projects that split her focus. Nobody tells her she needs to be doing XYZ on top of ABC. This is exactly what I mean by Mori's problems being self-inflicted. Cover is hands-off with their talent, nobody is making Mori busy but Mori. Nobody is saying she'll be less busy soon(tm) but Mori. So, for example, if she chooses to schedule things in a way that conflicts with a stream, yes, I am going to call her on it, because it's just as easy to not do that as it is to do it.

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>>4610208
Fuck takos in particular though. They can't stop talking about how much of a perfect angel Ina is while comparing her to Mori

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>>4611089
Why do you want management constantly breathing down EN's neck? It's been 9 months almost

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>>4611134
Can you imagine being a western dev dealing with this autism
>Hello I am Yagoo from Hololive, can we have permission to stream Cuphead
>Sure! Go ahead
>Domo arigatogozaimasu

2 weeks later
>Hello it is me Yagoo again can we have permission to stream Cuphead on PS4?
>Uh, yeah sure, we already gave you the thumbs up dude, go for it
>Domo arigatogozaimasu

2 weeks later
>Konnichiwa Yagoo desu. Can we have permissions to stream Cuphead on Steam?
>For fucks sake YES
>Hai

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>>4609677
She kind of seemed on edge with j-chad during the Friday night funkin stream so I could believe this rrat

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>>4611279
I think its chumbuds honestly, which is a shame because Gura is good

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So that line about being a prisoner to her ambition was not an exaggeration huh?

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>>4611017
Its 3 streams minimum of at least 1 hour each.

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>>4610991
is pointing out 'when you schedule things far away so people can reserve time for it, there's an increased chance for things to fuck up' (so literally what happened last month) unreasonable?
at that point trying to hype the event up further really doesn't work great and we're talking about something that has been pushed back since February

with the meeting thing, funnily enough, it's being so absolutely open is what affects the atmosphere of the stream - it'd ring a little different if Mori went from the start 'we gonna beat Tankman on Normal, then depending on how long it takes we'll do some extra stuff' and ended the stream after 90 minutes compared to a longer stream, but the entire final part being filled with Mori seething about her meeting
also nearly completely clocking out of the last IT2 episode since she was arranging some meeting/outing while Kiara tried her best to squeeze out some banter wasn't great either

it's where the part of 'entertaining' from being an 'entertainer' should come in

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>>4611210
I don't really see any other way she could have interpreted it. She's left up streams with mistakes like that before. Privating the VOD was the overreaction (and it should come back, I hope) but the different way she handled it suggests something is different. She read criticism and it was likely the kind saying how to avoid those errors. Now she can start learning to solve it.

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>>4610894
Do you really have to remind someone to install a game she intends to play

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>>4611293
Japanese copyright is this autistic. But they have to follow it.

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The problem some of you hyper-sensitive twats have with criticism is that you assume it comes from a place of malice or ill-intent. You know why people are pointing out Mori's flaws and problems? Because they want her to fix them so the stream quality improves. It's not some mass conspiracy out to get her. The vast majority of people watch streams to enjoy them, not hope it goes poorly so they can write up the Bill of Rights, send it, hope for a second time that Mori sees it, and then hope for a THIRD time that she'll feel bad about it.

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>>4611293
I think Hololive/Cover has enough weight to swing around now for "bundle" permissions now. Still don't know how Mori fucked it up for a game her friend is the LEAD ANIMATOR to. Like not even a passing reference to 2 of the biggest VTubers on EN side playing your game and giving it amazing exposure....and you didn't even call Cover to see everything was kosher?

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>>4610991
>unless you're suggesting she completely overhaul her life to meet some critic's demands.
Isn't this the ideal, though?

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>>4611219
Ok, let's be real man.. Would you prefer that she doesn't have the side projects and just focus on streaming? If she were to do that I don't think she would last. What drives her is her passion for music and cool projects

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>>4611525
Not that you're wrong but I don't think the Cuphead devs really care about exposure at this point, it already went viral ages ago

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>>4611017
the 6 streams thing is actually entirely self-inflicted as well
the minimum is 3, and it can be short streams too
Calli could probably make a 4 stream setup work, with two longer ones actually falling on days when she doesn't have extra shit to do
but she tries too hard to be a variety streamer and ends up with some weird hybrid schedule that still makes average hours but she rarely gets anywhere with a game/drawing/any stream with a set goal because they're cut up into 2 hour-ish chunks that also usually land on the times where she is either still waking up or close to going to bed

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>>4611504
Talent perfect!
You no-one!
Unga Bunga!
No Bulli oshi!

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>>4611074
>ywn have sex with Mori using BLITZ Netcode

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>>4611504
Depends on the user. Some are dedicated to just sending bs criticism even when streams go well.

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>>4611210
From what I could tell it was well meaning criticism, if Mori is tilted by the feedback or struggling to understand the meaning then she should address how she wants us to give it in the future.

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>>4611592
Talking about River City Girls, they didn't have the Steam permissions for that

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>>4611279
I mean, compared to Mori, Ina handles her outside duties with more grace and professionalism, but that's part of actually being hired by a company rather than being an eternal freelancer

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>>4611582
No, I would prefer she did what she said she would on the stream that happened the day after she quit scythe-swinging for good - that she split her time properly between the two, even said she'd go at it 50/50, and learned how to manage that. I want her to do the thing she said would do with her own mouth, her own words. You're making it out to be this all-or-nothing deal when what I'm asking for isn't that in the first place.

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>>4611017
>6 STREAMS A WEEK MINIMUM
what are you talking about, the contract is 3 streams at an hour long.

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>>4611504
At some point it does become disrespectful on Moris part to not be able to do basic shit shes getting paid to do. Why does she spend so much time on stream planning for shit shes doing off stream and based on the amount of scuff she does virtually nothing off stream to prepare for her streams

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>>4611591
Yeah she doesn't have to do 6 streams. 3 is the minimum, 1 hour each. So that's a total of 3 hours a week she needs to stream. Any background work she needs to do to prepare for it should not even be more than a full days worth of work anyways. She probably just the type to feel like she is wasting her time away if she isn't constantly working on something.

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>>4611017
Would explain why Cover was looking for HoloEN managers. allegedly either JENMa or ENMa are pushing their way out?

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>>4611679
Fair enough, gotta admit that she's "prisoner of her ambitions".

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>>4611699
This also neglects to encompass holos who suffer other health issues and barely stream ever. If she really wanted or needed to, she could stream once a week with no issue. But she insists on 6 days a week with music and collabs and meetings and company projects on the side.

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>>4611591
She wants superchat money but without any effort put into making streams entertaining enough to earn that superchat money. Which is understandable her entire Hololive experience has been people throwing cash at her no matter the amount of fuckups

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>>4611695
True, she does this as a professional, this is her career. Deadbeats are very forgiving of her mistakes but if she was doing any other wage job this kind of scuff wouldn't be tolerated at this point..

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>>4611699
Somehow this reminds me of her saying that she wants to put more content for us and payment for the our support.

Am I wrong for thinking that in the end she doesn't have bad intentions or at least is too naive to figure that shit gotta hit the fan?

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I love my stupid bitch oshi. She's really fucking stupid though. God, she's so dumb. I love her though, nothing I can do about either point.

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>>4609246
>We don't even fucking know what caused the fucking break.
And we'll likely never know. I think whatever caused her break to start early caused her a lot of stress, likely emotional. If she's still dealing with those issues now, then it makes sense for her to think that she should've extended her break to clear her head before jumping back into streaming.

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>>4611913
nah, all the comments about Mori being malicious or coasting, or getting an ego really don't fit at all with how she always was as a person or how all her genmates and senpai see her
but she feels pretty aimless and always trying to do too many things at once

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>>4611963
that's kinda how I feel

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>>4611591
I would love if she switched to a 4 stream setup, 2 streams in her late night slot and 2 in an earlier slot for NA bros. Plan longer streams, one for each timezone, and leave the day open and focused on streaming. Would suck seeing her less, but her current way of cramming streams back to back isn't working.

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does anyone have gosling type clips of mori to share? I feel like feeling tonight

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The good since the break ended:
>She's back
>She has a set date for karaoke
>She's in the process of moving again to a place which will give her a little more freedom without worrying about neighbors
>She talked about friends who helped her get to where she is
>She wants to collab with some of them and is working towards it
>She sang
>She beat Tankman on normal
>She had a good time with Gura
>Over a million skeletons love her

The bad since the break ended:
>Had some kind of meeting that was weighing on her mind
>Couldn't beat Tankman on hard
>Stumbled at the start of a collab
>Took down a stream

It's all about perspective, Deadbeats. One rough part of one day. Like it never happened on the next stream. But it did happen and I hope she knows how to prevent it in the future. Now she gets a day off to relax, clear her mind and do whatever she needs. Then the next stream, or rather the next collab, she gets another chance to shine brighter. And if she doesn't learn? She's still awesome, just a bit of a bonehead.

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>>4612203
take your pick from the vault
https://pastebin.com/NNZ1QPiV

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Gura wants to invite Mori and Anya into a DBD collab. Either as together as a group or just paired with herself and one of them

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>>4611582
Not that anon, but 1000% yes. She's in Hololive now. She should either adapt to the environment, or leave.

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>>4612234
>>She has a set date for karaoke
I'll believe it when the stream goes live. The last time she set a date everyone thought it would be this massive BTFO for doubters and they got proven right in the end.

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>>4612198
It would be good if she asked us. Just like Kiara did with the Twitter pools back then. Data talks

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>>4611699
She can just copy Suisei. Suisei is always busy with the amount of work she has. Lessons, collabs, concerts, radio show and covers/orginal songs. She's always packed however she balances it out by just streaming the bare amount. She doesn't even read SCs. She plays whatever and just enjoys her time in 2hrs or less which is fine for everyone. Noone really batted an eye when Mori would play those simple games. Her just drawing stuff or answering maros or even just doing free talk is fine. She doesn't have to pile on 5-6 streams. It just makes her unprepared. She can't always rely on her manager to basically manage the permissions and assume everything will be fine up to she realizes it's not. It just makes either her look bad or her manager or cover or all three. It gets old as well knowing that not a lot of the other girls have this kind of mess up all the time. Marine even admits her manager is a pon so she checks up on tasks to make sure they are done.

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>>4612279
Fine with me, Mori seems to have become Gura's favorite collab partner since for some reason Gurame collabs have become rare and I'm down with Calligula anytime.

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>>4612354
The last time was something out of her control which made her pause for a week. So I'm not going to hold it against her. If she reschedules only it again then I will be asking "What the hell?"

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>>4611582
I like her songs but lets be real for a second. All her superchats and memberships are for the same reason Rushia gets them. If Mori wants to be a singer she can do that, but she won't have nearly the monetary success she will as a streamer. Look at Azki who finally cottoned on a few months ago, she pumps out a huge amount of music and did very little streaming. Does Mori want to go down that route? She can if she wants.

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>>4612255
>already bookmarked
jesas I forgot about this, thanks fellow deadbeat

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She just can't function with her only friend gone to Australia.

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>>4612473
>The last time was something out of her control which made her pause for a week.
And the times before that? You do remember that this unarchived karaoke was supposed to be in celebration of her hitting 1M subs, yeah? That happened back in January. The last delay may not technically have been her fault, but you're not gonna get me to believe that she had five months and not a single week was in her control enough to schedule one specific stream. That's just ridiculous.

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>>4612506
>All or nothing approach
You faggots always give the most hyperbolic advice.

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>>4612351
Holo allows her to work on her side projects though. And I'm sure a lot of her side projects are for Holo too. She doesn't have to give up on either, she just has to balance her life better.

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>>4611419
Again, no one knows her schedule but her and management. She said this month is also really busy for her so maybe that's the only week she could've scheduled it for. If she schedules the karaoke that far out in advance, she's giving everyone as much notice possible, and I honestly don't understand the cynicism regarding the delays. I'll give you March, but April we had the EP release, birthday stream and a concert, and May we had the new outfit and another concert. Whatever out of control shit happened last week was unavoidable and I hope anons here would be more understanding of that.
Regarding the meeting thing, there's nothing she could've said that wouldn't rub someone the wrong way. 90 minute stream? Someone would say she's doing the bare minimum. I'm going to chalk that up to her thinking beating Tankman on normal would take an entire hour and that there wouldn't be a need to mention her meeting. Unfortunately she was too focused on beating him on hard she likely lost track of time and had to address a cutoff point to the stream.

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>>4612255
for anyone looking thru this, I HIGHLY recommend the cute laugh section

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>>4610536
then where are the saviorfags at?

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>>4612473
But it has been pointed out before, the further she pushes it to "hype it up" the more chances something out of anyone's control can happen and fuck something up. A machine with more moving parts means there are more things that can go wrong and lead to a cataclysmic failure.

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>>4612663
Yeah she's a musical holo, I expected karaokes to be a staple but she hasn't done a single unarchived karaoke this year and we are halfway through. I understand this one is hyped up so much she's got a lot of pressure to make it good, but she could have been doing smaller more casual ones this whole time.

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>>4612733
>She said this month is also really busy for her
She says that every month, follows it up with "I'll finally have some free time in [future month]", and then we get to [future month] and to literally nobody's surprise she's once again talking about how she's busy.

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>>4612415
>She doesn't even read SCs
I get your general point but Mori could never do this. The guilt from not reading SCs would eat her alive.

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Anyone have a magnet for the deleted VOD?

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>>4612733
Isn't it fair to assume that the whole birthday celebration took a fuck toon of time too? I think she mentioned that she worked on that since the beginning of the year

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>>4612351
She's adapted and done more than fine. Others do stuff on the side and hololive doesn't care. It's what keeps a healthy relationship between the company and its talents, otherwise you risk burnouts and stuff when they can only do stuff through Cover and there's no guarantee Cover will say yes to things.

>>4612663
I am not defending those. It's almost a joke how long its gotten postponed so if it doesn't happen then time then she can expect more people digging into her for it. Not like it's a serious matter since she streams other stuff. It's just so many people want to hear it and she keeps lengthening a setlist. It's going to go for hours or she's going to have to schedule them more frequently.

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Looks like the VOD is back up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbo8zS8otzQ

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>>4612415
Maybe she can consult her about managing her time then. Suisei has been doing this for a long time and hasn't had any problems.

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>>4612835
At this point I legit think that she says that with the intention of calming the ConcernBeats, not because it's a reality

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>Ame is singing along to Gura singing Mori's Live Again
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THREESOME DISCORD SEX

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Your boy just really needs to stop chugging gallons of stupid bitch juice. Everything is fixable, she's even fixed some of these issues before, the problem is she relapses and then gets stuck in a timeloop.

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>>4613026
If Mori was actually able to consult her genmates for meaningful advice and help we wouldn't be here

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>>4613026
She also puts out 2 songs a year. She does other things as well, but they're both completely different people with different priorities.

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>>4612999
Interesting, wonder what got cut live chat isn't available.

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>>4612999
Good choice, Morripi. Don't let critiques get you down. The functional part of the collab was good. Just need to plan and test a little better.

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Mori does not have the mental toughness required to succeed in the entertainment industry. She will be the first EN to graduate.

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>>4612999
Great news! Tho seems she cut out something.

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>>4613069
We've been trying to hoard all the stupid bitch juice in this thread but somehow she keeps finding some...wait we had some right here where did it go?

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>>4613095
Different priorities doesn't mean some skills don't carry over. Knowing how to schedule things in such a way that you aren't rushing from one thing to another is one such skill. If you know how to walk, presumably, you know how to run too.

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>>4613082
I have a feeling a lot of Moris problems come directly from the fact Kiara is certainly the one she consulted with most about how to be a vtuber before debut

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>>4611419
Yeah that final ITT stream made me groan at times, which sucked because the other VODs were nice. Kiara probably bounced back real quick, but I felt bad for her when Mori talked about "getting this game over with today" and how she told the people she was meeting she'd reschedule with them for another day. I've been on that end with former friends. It wasn't cool when she did the same thing again with you deadbeats during the end of FNF.

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>>4613169
MORI NO STOP DRINKING IT!

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>>4612839
>but she could have been doing smaller more casual ones this whole time.
Yeah it's a shame. I think the problem is with her Rap God promise. She wouldn't want to do another unarchived karaoke until she can deliver on Rap God since it was supposed to be tied to her 1 mil celebration. However her perfectionism means that she doesn't want to do Rap God unless she's practiced it enough times...which wasn't doable due to her being so busy this year.
The whole thing causes a negative feedback loop that Mori doesn't seem to be aware of. Not trying to make excuses for her by the way.

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>>4613067
>Someday, 3D debut week, all in Japan, all staying with Mori, full HoloMyth singing

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>>4613131
And if that were to happen, you'll definitely would be laughing like a maniac and not missing the shit out of her, right anon?

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>>4613095
Certainly more impressive than suisei song output wise. Though I guess that comes with the downside of her not really having her shit together as a streamer preparing things.

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>>4613169

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>>4613245

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>>4613247
And yet we're still not getting Rap God because she took 5 months to realize Em said faggot in that song and she's not comfortable with saying it during an unarchived. Godzilla is nice and all, but she's still a fucking retard.

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>>4613171
>If you know how to walk, presumably, you know how to run too.
You mean if you know how to run, you presumably know how to walk, meaning if you can do the more difficult task first, you can do the easier one.
You're also paralleling someone who has been doing this for 3 years professionally with someone doing this for 9 months. She has improved in the past, and she will again.

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>>4613095
If you haven't been following Suisei then you must have missed all the concertsss that she has done. All the covers she has released and the radio show she has been doing. And also all the sponsorships she was involved in. Suisei isn't even the busiest Holo. There's a ton of them. The more famous you are the more demand you get. I'm not comparing them. I am simply stating that she can learn a thing or 2 from talking to people that has been successful at this industry already and since Suisei is also a musical holo it makes sense to talk to her

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>>4613213
And now she doesn't even consult Kiara these days.
Dammit woman, you have a friend who has had to seriously ask you on stream several times to speak to her and go to her for help.
And what does she do? Not that outside of maybe one time
We insult Kiara, but at least she actually has her shit together outside of surprise acts of god stepping in

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>>4612999
Looking through the comments since I already watched the VOD and it's hilarious to me that people sperged out about that one dude's comment because of its length when I can spot several that said ultimately the same thing but shorter and also way harsher.

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>>4612999
Just changed to unlisted

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>>4613348
I'm pretty sure she mentioned that she was preparing a special version of the song so she wouldn't have to say faggot. She was vague about it but it's obvious what she was referring to.

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>>4613279
I will be sad when she graduates. I want Mori to succeed but I do not believe in her.

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>(WARNING: There was very little preparation for this stream due to a last minute change in the game we wanted to play, it is a complicated situation but we still had fun! Just be ready for technical difficulties galor... Thank you!)

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>>4613095
>>4613283
To be fair Suisei has different restrictions on her songs, for example she had 5 written before she even joined Hololive, but wasn't allowed to release them all. JP Holos at least have stated they need permissions for both covers AND originals, not sure how it works for EN. I guess management has to go over original songs for...content? Maybe they want to match the tone or image of the Holo? We know Lamy's old manager was very strict about her image, as is Watame's manager, saying things like "You're not that kind of girl". In addition, Mori writes the lyrics for her own songs, something I don't think Suisei always does, so that's probably another set of permissions and contracts they have to work out.

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>>4612999
idk why unlisted but thank you Mori, people really deserve to see the phasmo part, you were both very cute and entertaining

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>>4613476
Man that's sad. At least put a little bit of faith in her. I'm not telling you to expect her to be in Holo for 10 years, but damn

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>>4613468
Yes, she said she was going to have to rewrite a song and that it wasn't going to be ready in time for the last karaoke. Maybe that's changed now it's another month of delay, but if she was actually practicing back in January and Feb, you would have thought she'd have read the lyrics at least once.

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>>4613445
Kiara actually has a lot of good knowledge and advice, and is on another level when connecting with her fans. She just makes a lot of stupid choices.

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>>4613131
Cute rrat

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>>4613465
She should just have made it members-only, like Kiara did with her scuffed VODs.

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>>4613444
Mori should be learning from a great streamer because Mori already had her music shit down even more so than suisei.

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>>4613476
>>4613590
Habit formation is a very hard thing to do especially in new environments. A lot of the vtubers in Holo weren't really amazing to begin with. They evolved. While I can get disappointed in Calli and will be open o remark on things she can improve on, that doesn't mean I think she's not able to learn. Anyone can. It's just a matter of understanding what you can improve on and consistently trying hard to work on them. The learning curve for everyone is different. I'm saying this because I have trained a lot of people in my day and newbies always react differently to stress and pointers of improvement

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>>4613638
She probably got the ok to just not say faggot when performing the song, and then they backtracked on it

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>>4613590
Why should I have faith in her? Instead of improving like all the other girls she is regressing. And this incident has proven that she is going to continue to deflect rather than improve as a streamer. I would be very happy if I am wrong about her future, but I am not.

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You cannot be a perfectionist and a streamer. It just doesn't fucking work no matter how big you are. Just make the scuff entertaining

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>NOTE: Comments are disabled because as I plan to make this stream public again, I don't want anyone going into the comment section and looking for "who might have caused Calli to private the stream." I privated it due to my own standards not being met. I hope you'll enjoy the Phasmo re-cut of the stream! :}

Mori updated the description

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>>4613590
Why are you responding seriously to someone who brings up graduation like this? Don't waste your time man.

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Can't someone just tell her that it's fine to tone down streaming to quality 2-3 streams a week on top of her music projects? It doesn't seem like she'd prepare for a game stream looking at how her games went last night. There should at least be basic level of knowledge of phasmo like what items to bring, level of difficulty to use and location.

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>>4611504
The problem is you faggots are like broken fucking records over shit that barely matters and then it starts to affect the talents, either directly or because management overreacts to a vocal minority.

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>>4613671
Just because you like Mori's music better than Suisei doesn't make her any less. And Suisei is a great streamer btw. She's a one-man show that did everything from the ground up. Just like Calli back in the day. Stop with your shitty remarks.

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>comments are now turned off
aight, now, that's just cowardice, come on

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>>4613873
>but I am not
>I am infallible and my opinion is a forgone conclusion
Ogey

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>>4612999
>comments turned off while I was writing one
God damnit

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>>4614007
Her songwriting ability has already improved massively since her debut, I actually wish she would just focus on that and not streaming so much.

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>>4614041
Same. This is what I was going to post.

>It makes me very happy looking through this comment section seeing legitimate critiques of all of the small problems that chip away at Mori's otherwise fun and high quality content. This was a very fun stream, moat of it was ejoyable. I REALLY wish Cuphead actually worked. Massive potential there, I feel teased, I want MORE! Phasmo is always fun to watch, especially for such a perfect personality combo. But of course there were issues, that, sadly, a lot of viewers have come to expect and are growing increasingly complacent with.

>You had not one, but TWO backup plans, WITH thumbnails prepared for both. There was a plan, there were contingencies, there were backup ideas and preparations were made. For some reason, though, no effort was made to test the connections ahead of time. One (or both) of you didn't even have Cuphead installed, It's strange how much thought can be put into certain aspects of a stream in case of failure, but the same can't always be said about the steams themselves.

>All this boils down to is a restructuring of priorities. Thumbnails descriptions can be made and altered later, but the things that need to be done for the stream to go smoothly are things that would ideally be done well before or shortly before the stream time. If you can publicly schedule a two-hour stream, you can squeeze an extra 15-20 minutes in beforehand to make sure things will work at least okay.

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>>4613989
>>4613990
guess that kills the rrat about the public execution? (>>4607106)

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this reaper is soft

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>calli and gura are borderline tech illiterates.
>never bother to test shit beforehand.
fucking hell, if you are going to be lazy at least don't get bothered by it.

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>>4614022
considering the threads/twitter already mentioned witch-hunts for people who might've upset her, I don't think that's the reason
especially since she dogeza'd over the negative feedback already

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I don't want Mori to cut down her streams to anything less than 4 a week and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

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>>4614022
Jesus, you faggots are always bitching about SOMETHING, aren't you?
>comments overwhelmingly positive
>some long-winded constructive criticism mixed in with some harsh critiques
>>4613990
>NOT GOOD ENOUGH

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>>4614016
Ahh yeah, just as Suisei is a better streamer as you'll say, I most certainly will call Mori a better musician. I'm just saying Mori doesn't need advice from suisei as a Musician. She could ask Korone who is an even better streamer than Suisei and probably has more in common with game wise.

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>>4614097
take your meds

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She updated it again, specifically changing this line

>I privated it due to company and community feedback, but most importantly my own standards not being met.

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>>4613991
You right, bad on me for taking the bait

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Remember when Mori was talking about how tough she was and how much she climbed to be where she is, and ripped on VTweeters for basically being fragile
....i miss that Mori

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>>4614172
>>4614180
If they know the comments exist already then they know the names and the witch hunt would happen regardless because you can bet your ass there's some deadbeat discord circlejerk already happening.

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>>4613989
>I privated it due to my own standards not being met.
I don't understand this. Her first tweet after the collab showed that she was satisfied with the stream despite the scuff. The second tweet was clearly a reaction to criticism she read.
I'd understand this statement more had she not made the first tweet. Now I'm just confused.

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>>4613519
Suisei's songs are almost all released. Only one that isn't released was the one written for her by Bilibili. She writes the lyrics to all her songs too, you can check credits for her songs. They need permission to sing covers but none are needed for originals. A lot of what you said about management going over original songs are just assumptions so I won't even go over those.

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AME WANTS TO FIT INBETWEEN INA AND GURA.

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>>4614284
Damn J Chad really did chew her out.

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>>4614181
4 is too many. Her and her roommate's music projects is already overwhelming enough.

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>>4614370
It's damage control because the stream caused a flame war where hardcore deadbeats, reasonable people acknowledging the scuff and suggesting more prep, and antis wanting to capitalize

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>>4614385
They absolutely do need permission from management regarding original songs. Multiple Holos have stated as much.

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>>4614284
I think she just needs to leave it at this point and move onto incorporating feedback into future streams instead

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>>4614493
it seems retarded that management chews her out when they fucked up getting her permissions for RCG and at no point told her "you're being a retard, this won't work"

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>>4614496
SatanSquares projects can will be scarce, but I do think she'd make it work. Somehow. She just needs to be careful on technical stuff.

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>>4614234
Is your reading comprehension that bad? I never said one is better than other. I said just because you like someone that doesn't mean you have to put down the other. They are both great in their own right. Korone while is a great streamer is entirely a mismatch because her stream style is entirely different from both girls. Both Suisei and Calli work a lot on things that is outside of streaming. Calli needs to learn to manage stuff more efficiently to avoid these kind of problems and her getting pointers from someone like Suisei is exactly perfect because she can balance both her outside and holo activities very well

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>>4614315
eh, it's still contains it to those faggots compared to dramafags smelling blood in the water joining in

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In milder news, Mori liked that fucking cursed Cats fanart of Kiara and Ina on twitter.

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>>4614496
I already know people aren't going to like me saying this but fuck her roommate's music projects. She ain't some do-it-all superwoman chick, she needs to get that into her head and start prioritizing what matters. And if that means her roommate shit matters more to her than the 1.5M fans she has as Mori then she can go back to doing roommate shit full-time.

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>>4614097
>Criticism without hate, a little of defense to Mori and genuine advice
Nice deadbeat!

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>>4614471
I approve

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>>4614315
>you can bet your ass there's some deadbeat discord circlejerk already happening.
Found a funny comment

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>>4614610
Glad to hear that. That watchalong was legendary live.

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Mori since I know you're here, you should make it clear to your fans, probably in a T3 stream, about
1. when you want criticism. any time? or only when you ask for it?\
2. where you want it. youtube comment section? stream chat? twitter? letters only?
3. what kind/how harsh
you should let us know how harsh we can get with you, and maybe make it clear whether any pink t3's went too far or if they did what you wanted by giving criticism.

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>>4614678
>I was afraid of getting sucked into a circlejerk but then I joined one and it felt good so I guess I was wrong all along

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>>4614234
Talking about time management here, not anything else. Korone doesn't have to manage her time when she streams 14 hours a day. If calli asks her for advice she'll just tell her to stream more. It doesn't have to be suisei but there are a ton of people in Holo that stream minimally and work on other things but still have good streams. She could ask any one of them for advice on how to better schedule and manage her time.

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>>4614181
Taking on count that anything less than what she has now will relieve her... Fair enough

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>>4613990
How do y’all see this if it’s unlisted

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>>4614734
mori doesn't come to this thread

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>>4614780
Because it's unlisted and not private.

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>>4614734
She's never going to get serious criticism from Twitter, we can eliminate that one off the bat. If you think the overwhelming faux-positivity in the YouTube comments was something, Twitter comments are performative kindness taken to the Olympic level. Everyone's trying to one-up themselves in how hard they can prostrate in the hopes that she'll leave a like on their comment.

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>>4614734
This please Mori.

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>>4614780
the link to the youtube video is still on your twitter moririn

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honestly, if it leads to a single tangible improvement and her being happier thanks to that, I don't mind getting hounded by some Twitter army

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>>4614678
so all this charade boils down into leaving 4chan and replace it with discord?? I give it 2 months before they pull a Towa on her

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>>4614860
OH SHI- I mean.. s-word

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Mori since I know you're here
1. Stop making excuses, you don't work harder than the other Hololive talents. Your job is a lot of work, but a lot of people wish they had it, so consider yourself lucky.
2. Start preparing for your streams.
3. Show a little respect to your fans. They're what keep you going and you aren't entitled to their support.

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>>4614181
Same. I'd be pretty disappointed if she did less than 4 streams a week. She has always said that she loves streaming and I took that at face value.
If her problem is that she makes herself too busy, she should cut down on those other obligations first or cut down on everything a little bit. Gutting her streams first while leaving the rest of her busy schedule in tact would leave a sour taste in my mouth.

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any shadowverse players here wanna tell me the best deck? Is it dragon? I’m a tier whore.

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>>4614748
Well, I think it's less that Mori doesn't know how to manage her time, and more of her always doing too fucking much. All the advice won't matter if she not mentally able to get out of her habits. Yes, bad habits are hard to break and you do relapse back into them. Doesn't help that she is a retard when it comes to tech.

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>>4614940
You aren't entitled to her respect or content, loser.

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>>4614097
Well intentioned, but it's a good thing she never saw this. Don't post it as it will make things worse.

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>>4615082
There's a reason I said "they," not "we."

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>>4614748
Suisei, Coco, Matsuri, and Fubuki are all the girls that do multiple projects all at once that have great time management skills. Polka has a lot of projects but has resorted to guerilla streams.

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>>4615134
"They" deserve it even less.

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>>4614297
It's still the same Mori, but she's being tough on herself this time. that's what some of the songs in Your Mori where about you know. But now we get to see the other side of that, that was always there.

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>>4614940
>Show a little respect to your fans. They're what keep you going and you aren't entitled to their support.
Cringe

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>Meanwhile

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>>4615243
really cute

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>>4614968
I think 4 a week is perfectly reasonable, especially if two of them are shorter. Any less than that and she really might as well consider vsinger status unless her plan would be to have a long stream three times a week.

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Some of the comments before she turned them off.

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>>4615064
I've never been the type to overwork so I guess I can't really tell her how to get rid of her habit. I just hope she can get out of this mindset. Maybe treat resting as work she needs to do to be a better streamer/musician.

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why is every woman I really like retarded

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>>4615315
>Dude shut up. They had to switch games last minute with no time to check things up, and instead of cancelling the stream they decided to go with it to not disappoint anybody who was waiting for it. You just came here to spread hate and negativity. They both are hard working girls and you got no right to bash them bc problems out of their control.
kek

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>>4615315
>not censoring the names
cringe and tl;dr?

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>>4615315
>all those greynames

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>>4615315
>These pussy footing criticisms are what made are private and remove the video
Didn't she say she used to perform for like 5 people at concerts and sometimes even got hazed, but she still persevered?
How the hell are literal whos mad about a scuffed collab phasing her but being booed at something you've lived your whole life for not shake her core?

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>Greynames

Who would've known?Probably salty Laker fans

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>>4615411
I'd rather they had a zatsudan instead than an unprepared scuffed phasmo stream

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>>4615315
A lot of these are valid but the one in the middle by Backup&Containment is just comes off as intentionally trying to taunt her.

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>>4615482
She's literally been booed off stage in the past.

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>>4608339

For some reason people feel as if vtubers are the only content creators who can never be critiqued.

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>>4615482
She's an icon, and people are making a big deal out of it because of that.

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>>4615315
>they knew there would be connectivity issues but wanted to try anyway
You know when's the time to do that? Before the stream goes live.

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>>4615315
Damn they really chewed that ass up. I didn’t see most of the stream because I was working but I saw some of the scuff.. didn’t expect this reaction though

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>>4615533
really? what's this story

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>>4615315
tl;dr brevity is the soul of wit

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>>4614041
Same.

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Mori I know you are reading this.
1. Your boobs are big and I want to rub my face in them.
2. Make another slow & serious song like Live Again again.
3. May I please sniff your computer chair.

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>>4615499
I'll never get tired of this meme kek

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>>4615649
Based

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>>4615590
Mori and Gura are okay, but they're the two most Popular ENs. If these were Dagger and Iofi, it'll not cause as much of a shitstorm.

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>>4615540
honestly, this sentiment used to be fine before EN. if a JP idol acted like this, the EN fanbase would say "haha, shes cute so its ok" IF they even knew about it. any JP criticism would go unnoticed by EOP fans, and heavy criticism would basically be antis acting up
Mori said she wants criticism and she got some

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>>4615626
why would they try to be witty, that just gets Mori to try and be witty back like with the 'you said we won't get Cuphead to work, suck it!' situation

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>>4614940
guac

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>>4614370
Second tweet was more likely a reaction to getting chewed out by her boss/manager.

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>>4615701
wit1
/wit/
noun
noun: wit; plural noun: wits

1.
mental sharpness and inventiveness; keen intelligence.

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>>4615608
More than likely a gaijin trying to rap in the heartland of japan wasn't well received by the locals

>>4615533
Fucking Nope. Props to her times a thousand for enduring that, but fuck putting yourself in the public's crosshairs

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americans are fucked

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>>4615701
Didn't she literally said that on stream?

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>>4615326
Yeah, she needs to learn HOW to prepare properly, and then get into the habit of not streaming the amount she thinks she should stream, but the amount she's able to stream with proper preparation. As much as I and some people here would not want her to cut down, I think she'd be happier overall with much less scuff streams.

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>>4615595
Can't wait until she fixes those problems so I can see which ones will start acting high and mighty thinking they are the direct result her streams got better. It'll be easier to see if those criticisms came from a good place or not.

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Mori I know you're reading this.
1. Why?

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>>4615674
JPs actually regularly gets heavier criticism because japs are on another grade of autism
a fucking misplaced janitor joke or putting a book into a fridge can land you into suspension and have your streams baloon with thousands of dislikes
Moririn is getting lovetaps, really

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I'm just hoping the indie/nobody shadowverse collab and coco/ollie collab don't both go poorly for our boy. I'm really worried she'll get in a negative feedback loop and snowball things to be a lot worse

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>>4615755
it's literally the same few dudes who have been here since the split just trying to impose their will in some way

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When is EN2 coming so that Mori could be laid back in her streaming schedules? She should've played river city girls alone and collab with Gura on another day.

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>>4615755
1 year break for Mori! That'll show em.

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>>4615777
If the Shadowverse collab doesn't go well I get the feeling it's really going shake her morale on the whole "get out the bubble" thing

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>>4615744
https://streamable.com/ydsmof

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>>4615674
It did happen. With Miko and Korone but they made the best out of it by making that skit in the conference room. SMOK also did so they made an improptu zatsu. It was funny. So did Nepolabo so they restorted to playing in Stardew valley so they resorted to playing in pairs. They didn't stop because the hype for these groups are high so they resorted to pushing through in some way which salvaged the streams respectively.

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>>4615732
At least she makes considerations now, she used to exclusively stream 6am EST

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>>4615755
I don't care about comments until something like this happens and neither should you. Mori could improve and motherfuckers could be sucking their own dicks in the VOD comments talking about how they're responsible and I wouldn't even know.

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is it just my imagination or does Mori get 10x the flack for this kind of thing that anyone else does?

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>>4615626
Brevity is reserved for people who can understand things without a comprehensive breakdown. Last time people tried to keep things short we got a 3 hour (down from the 6 hours planned) Shadowverse stream.

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>>4615776
JPs literally get yabs out of nothing sometimes. Mori is lucky that some people criticizing her stuff are actual fans. If antis started to dominate the narrative it'll just cause a shitstorm again.

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>>4615944
yes it's literally samefags. notice how all of these posts are the exact same tone and writing style

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>>4615776
>putting a book into a fridge
What?

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>>4615836
Nah I think if the Coco/Ollie collab is shit that will fuck her up. She'll feel guilty for messing up another collab. She already knows a lot of people don't like SV so she won't feel as much pressure.
>on the whole "get out the bubble" thing
The bubble comment had nothing to do with the SV collabs though.

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>>4615608
Can't remember if she went into details about it but I think it was in a Q&A stream? The first one.

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>>4615919
Those comments get posted here constantly. When she stopped reading superchats during collabs there were a lot of boasting going around here.

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>>4615755
Even steamers that looks unproblematic get hate over trivial things so imagine when there's valid points that can be raised. It doesn't matter if there are. What matters is that she understands what failed and learn from them.

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>>4615994
I don't think it's all chumbuds, it's like this no matter who she collabs with

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>>4616072
same as in the same people, anon, not the shark

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>>4615789
said dudes are regular donators who stuck around through various timeloops and Mori's insistence on doing things her way, so your sentiment appears hella misplaced

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>>4615856
So like How Mori and Gura went to Phasmo then to keep the fans happy?

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>>4615776
The issues you're using as examples were blown out of proportion by Nijiniggers. Gookmoot is one of them and said on his twitterthe janitor comment deserved more than an apology.

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WATCHING MORI GET STRONGER!
Taking her job seriously, wanting to better herself, always trying to make it fun. Watch out antis/kiddies/dolphins/birds/talking books!

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>>4615944
seething americans

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>>4616108
If they had done it at the start instead of delaying for half an hour, and then suffering through it for another half an hour, sure. Guess what the difference is?

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>>4616097
they've been singing the same song since the fucking TT drama and every week its some new minor grievance that needs to be turned into a federal issue. if they're sticking around it's because they're in love with moaning and yelling "i told you so!" into the faggot void

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>>4615944
No. Not really. A lot of JPholos has faced more criticism and backlash over things that are just trivial. Coco, Fubuki, Matsuri, Haachama, Pekora, Miko and Marine to name a few. You must be a newfag to not know

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>>4616005
It's unrelated but I can see Mori's stupid bitch juice making her think "oh no I messed up my first collab stream with an indie that isn't a vtuber I'm the fucking worst"

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>>4616156
Your own cherrypicked arguements?

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>>4614940
Now this is some garbage

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>>4616162
it's time for meds anon, I think you're starting to go bit schizo over folks that are just trying to see the best from her
or do you not believe her when she says her own scuff bothered her too this time around?

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>>4616201
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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>>4615944
Until Mori actually gets suspended for something she said or did you really don't know shit at all about getting flack. Try having to watch your oshi be forced to apologize and then go on break for a joke that was taken out of context, spammed at the author, and then caused the author to make a statement that they then recanted but it was too late because the fire was already burning. Then you can talk about how unfair the world is.

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>>4616108
Sure. But JPs were able to handle things better and turn it around. It's not just about cute haha. They still got criticisms otherwise.

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>>4616162
>they've been singing the same song since the fucking TT drama and every week its some new minor grievance that needs to be turned into a federal issue.
Sounds more like hlgg desu

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>>4616258
everyone going
>criticism criticism criticism we just want her to improve!
has been doing this shit forever any time she trips up or shows weakness. she's a fucking videogame streamer. she does alright, she slips up sometimes. she very obviously has shit going on behind the scenes right now and while she hasn't put her best foot forward nothing she's put out is worth the levels of seethe she brought forth.

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>>4614620
You can't do the idol shit forever, especially not with a trigger-happy company like Hololive. So in a few years tops she'll have to go back to being a rapper/animator fulltime. She won't be able to do that if she lets things slide now.

Just look at Coco. She's the smartest of the bunch and has build a sidebusiness she could retire to after graduation.

Of course that doesn't mean Mori should prioritise her roommate's projects above her own, and she doesn't. Her roommate released what, a single collab song this year?

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>>4615856
It just comes down to experience and quick-thinking. They were able to entertain when something goes wrong. They are also quick on their feet to come up with alternate solutions in a few minutes. When EN has tech troubles, sometimes we're just sitting there watching them fix the problem or just starting at a blank screen sometimes. Pair that up happening multiple times almost every collab, it can get some people to get agitated.

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>>4615776
Japs are fucking schizos though

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>What kind of preparation would I do?
When I make my stream schedule I would make sure to have the perms ready first. Send them to my manager too. Then if they respond quickly I make whatever changes and post the revised schedule. If they respond after I post the schedule, I shouldn’t delay making the changes (i.e. finding a replacement game).
I would make sure to include a large buffer, like 30 minutes to an hour before the stream starts. Then I’d make a checklist for things that have to be done within that buffer time. Check my streaming setup. Is my desk a mess? Do I have my props with me? Is my OBS alright? Talk to my collab partner if I have one, check connections, check game errors, check perms again. In karaoke, check the delay. This buffer should not overlap with anything else. If I have a meeting, then I excuse myself even if there is time before the stream.
I think it might even be alright to start the game for five minutes off stream. Reacting to the game intro isn’t essential.
I do this unashamedly as a faggot who has never live streamed so take it with a grain of salt. But I just wanted to think about it.

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>>4616152
she'll make mistakes but she's the real idol experience in EN since we get to see her improve every stream sometimes backwards but thats how it goes

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>>4616374
they give criticism when stuff affects her stream negatively and props when they affect it positively, that's how you're supposed to do that shit

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>>4616374
That's the problem though. Is she really a video game streamer and why does she have to focus on games when we know her passion is music. Her best streams for me was when she was not playing games. Subaru for example feels relieved because her fans enjoys her other streams that are not game related. Calli doesn't have to play games when streaming. It can be a background for her to talk but it will always be scuffed like this she can just sit and talk. Everyone will still listen.

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>>4616532
Writing 2k words to say "prep your streams better" when she knows she fucked up so you can post the screencap on her for pats on the back is some real epic faggot shit, and it's not even close to the first time the same homos in this thread have done it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_nv-hpwaD8 (1:47:10)
Or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8Q-smqaUgA if you prefer the studio version.

And don't you ever forget it.

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>>4616374
>has been doing this shit forever
Because the issues didn't go away? I know this thread has a fascinating with parroting MUH TIMELOOPS every time someone has the audacity to discuss something more once but you're being kind of stupid. It sounds more like you just want to stifle discussion because you can't handle it. If this was the first time Mori came unprepared to a stream, sure, the reaction would be overblown, but this is months in the making.

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>>4616004
Miko had a present (a doujin she liked) for marine, but chat suggested it would be funnier if she put it in the fridge for marine to find. Miko did that and marine laughed at the prank. They read one line from the book and the title and both said they liked the doujin. Antis took clip out of context to make it seem like her and marine were laughing at the book instead of the "prank" itself. Twitter blew up thinking that popular chuubas like miko and marine were making fun of a doujin author. They literally can make yabs out of thin air in Japan.

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>>4616658
oh it's you again

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I'm glad she included the comment in the description. I think it's explanation enough. Addressed things, fixed the stream, time to move on, hopefully with a better foot forward.

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>>4616687
Ooo, here we go, it's time for you to pretend everybody's the same guy. Make sure to make up a nickname for me too!

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>>4616734
we've already done this dance so many times and i literally don't even remember because every time it's you chimping out over something incredibly stupid and minor. hide your aspergers better homie

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>>4616658
It's only retarded timelooping when some try to suggest an occasional mistake (Even repeated) is evidence that she doesn't care, won't improve, has gotten worse, or should otherwise leave streaming behind.

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>>4616554
maybe we should suggest her to do a poll about this

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>>4616874
Beyond maybe three or four posts I've yet to see a single instance of that in this thread.

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>>4616683
Don't even get started on the chinks that almost went to war over a word the woman didn't even say.

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>>4616683
Damn getting mad over shit taken out of context and pulled out of one's ass? Sounds awful.

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>>4616921
I feel like we should stop suggesting things for a while.

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>>4616554
Kind of agree, I watch her streams 90% for her, in general I don't give a flying fuck about the game. In general the game streams are actually worse (in my opinion) because she doesn't talk as much when gaming.
Wine party, music and karaoke stream are the best Mori streams. Unless she has a fuck ton of entusiasm about the game (then I enjoy seeing her happy).

tl;dr: Mori do the content that you want, we'll watch whatever if you're enjoying and giving good vibes

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>>4616948
In this thread. As it happened global had the usual trolls doomposting and some made their way over here.
It's usually easy to tell when criticism is nuanced and with good intention, and when it isn't. She knows that and she responded.

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>>4617109
Yeah some games she doesn't seem like she enjoy. It kinda feels like she's thinks she's obligated to stream games because she's a streamer? There are tons of streamers in Holo that don't stream games a ton, so she should be fine to do what she wants.

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>>4616374
There should be critic where critic is due and credit where credit is due.
While I would have liked them to highlight the good parts of the stream (like Mori deciding to switch to Phasmo and the entirety of that part) their criticism is at least a little valid.

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>>4616400
I remember a stream of Suisei collabing with Matsuri in Apex and just Suisei just waiting for the update. It was hella funny because Suisei went full on genki on Matsuri or when Suisei was talking over one of her streams commenting over it while she waits for the game to update. It was pretty funny to me. Noone really crucified her for that. She was very funny. If Mori just dropped attempting to start the game and just went full podcast with Gura, it would have been far better. Everyone would be enjoying if Calli just played her recorder while Gura sang.

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>>4617299
It's not invalid or wrong but the entire thing has become a huge fucking circlejerk where the same dudes who have sat in here moaning for months can go "I told you so!" and stroke themselves off about it because she tried to make something she really wanted to happen work and failed.

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I agree I will watch whatever she wants to do, because I'm there to watch her. I want to see her play games she likes and have fun, but it's like she's forgotten how to actually relax because she grinded for so long. If it's what the wants, I dream of those days where she can say "Today is a stream day" and go without a scheduled block, just playing and chatting. Or singing and chatting. Or whatever.

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>>4616152
based

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>>4617057
Almost all Holo yab is like this. Shit pulled out of thin air. And being a japanese company, cover has to apologize every time instead of defending themselves because in JP culture, defending yourself against complaints (even unvalid) is seen as disrespectful.

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>>4617106
okay, maybe after this depression arc

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So what was the big issue with her recent collab stream?
Don't care about cuphead so I just skimmed it but it seemed fine to me.

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>>4617256
Perfect example: Lyrics dive streams and the TTRPG
Those where damn good, and they're not tipical streamer content. Hearing her talk about anything is pure joy. She should do story reading streams. With her voice those will be amazing

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>>4617483
Well, Gura and Mori are the least prepared when they stream. It was bound to have tech issues, but the biggest thing was that the Devs of the game were eagerly awaiting, only to find out that they didn't have perms + the multiplayer aspect.

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>>4617359
We all know mori aint like that, she worries more about the game starting because the stream may be cancelled or if she's wasting the time of her collab partner

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>>4617359
I think her game was buggy so she had to reinstall. She played that buggy version of apex with aqua entire stream and no one really said anything until it became unbearable for her during the matsuri collab. It was like a texture thing where the shadows were overblown or something. But yeah, I guess it just comes down to just adaptability.

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>>4617483
She wanted to play Cuphead with Gura, was told it would lag like crazy by chat, it lagged like crazy, they switched games but Mori had to install it before they could play. That's it.
Totally minor stuff but it represents an ongoing trend Mori has where she doesn't prepare for some things as well as she could. Her even reacting to it is good and shows she is aware.

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>>4617109
>tl;dr: Mori do the content that you want
What are you people talking about? Multiple times Mori has said that she likes playing video games. She doesn't force herself to play games that she dislikes. Remember when she only wanted to play chill games so she spent all that time playing Spiritfarer?
Mori's "problem" is that it's hard for her to turn up her enthusiasm and display her emotions properly all the time. People then misinterpret that as her not caring about the game/stream.

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>>4617483
She was told a few hours before the stream that management didn't actually get permissions to play RCG on PC, so she had to change plans. She tried to force Cuphead to work and it was unplayably laggy so she pivoted to Phasmo.

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>>4617568
Was it explicitly said she didn't have the permission? I guess the devs probably won't know the permission part since it's up to the publisher but it's just weird devs were waiting for them to play a game they weren't even allowed to paly by their publishers.

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>>4617675
They were apparently only cleared to play the console version

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Hollow Knight will solve everything

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>>4614678
Sounds like a pussy to me.

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>>4617569
Is it really that bad to drop the game while in stream and just talk? I have seen Kiara also just stop the stream because of tech issues and then open another one. I mean, I'm assuming that Gura and Calli are friends and can just talk casually in a stream. I mean, this is roommate shit but Mori didn't seem to have issues talking about music with AO. It was just freetalk

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>>4617698
Fucking stupid

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>>4617698
Is that a problem? I thought they both had consoles and can just download it there? Does multiplayer not work on consoles?

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>>4615626
Fuck you, retard.

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>>4617782
The game doesn't even have proper multiplayer.

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>>4617782
The game has no online multiplayer. They needed the pc version so they could play through steam remote play.

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>>4617782
She thought they were allowed to play on PC and planned accordingly up to just before the stream. The fact that management didn't get blanket permission seems way fucking stupider

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>>4617782
The game doesn't HAVE proper multiplayer, if they want to do collab at all with it they have to do it on PC.

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>>4617606
>Mori's "problem" is that it's hard for her to turn up her enthusiasm and display her emotions properly all the time. People then misinterpret that as her not caring about the game/stream.
That. You're just seeing how she is. That personality is not for everyone and that's fine.
Anyone who has watched more than a few of her streams should pick up on it. She's not going to fake being interested or do a stream she isn't interested in.

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>>4617675
>it's just weird devs were waiting for them to play a game
Devs only care because Gura is seen as a big streamer who sells games.
It's why they're in her stream chats so often. It's just good generic pr.
This was a Cali stream so usually game devs would never care to watch it but it had Gura in it.

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>>4617782
River city has no online multiplayer naturally. you have to use remote play to get non-couch co-op.
The real issue is that if cuphead was lagging this bad for gura, then this would've been just as bad with river city, which means Mori never even tried to do a connection test when conceiving the plans for the collab. It's just like how she didn't test multiplayer with ina before doing lethal league (not blaze...still fucking confuses me)

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>>4615482
Getting a cushy job that makes you rich has made this bitch complacent. I liked it better when she still had the mindset that she didn't deserve it. Now it feels like she doesn't respect us as much as she used to. We lost a lot of good content. ASMR and Date streams were very popular, there was no reason to stop doing them. Drawing ASMR is nice but hopefully we get a proper one again soon. Hopefully, the criticism actually reaches her instead of getting to her. I know she can be an idiot sometimes but she definitely is the type that responds best to tough love.

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>>4617925
This is a point too many people are overlooking. Even if RCG went through, it would've experienced the same problem as Cuphead. Parsec, remote play, you can sub in as much software as you want but it's not going to fix hundreds of miles worth of latency.

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>>4617752
It seems like HoloEN seems afraid of just doing straight zatsudans. Mori is the only one who does zatsus somewhat regularly outside of SC readings. They usually have gimmicks or something to help drive conversation so its not just straight talking from a deck. It may be western stream culture influencing the way they learned to stream.

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>>4617712
Mori could act exactly the same as Ina from now on and I tell you people would still blame her for whatever rretarded shit they want to push

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>>4615944
She gets more flak because Deadbeats realized she responds well to criticism. Unfortunately, this also gave rise to faggots that think it means they can whine and talk shit while falseflagging as Deadbeats so they can get a free pass to do so.

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Mori could just DM kay to ask for instant permissions

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>>4617830
How does that even work anyway. This is my assumption but they probably ask for permissions to play the game as a whole and the publisher tells them they can play the game on PS4/Xbox. Managers email back asking for PC version but didn't get a response in time? I get why cover has to do this but japanese copyright is so stupid. They should just play the PC version even with permission for only consoles and then sort it out later. If it weren't for these vtuber antis scrutinizing every move, life would be so much easier.

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>>4611963
Fucking Based

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>>4618064
But that doesn't satisfy Cover's paperwork autism

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>>4617371
I’ll agree with that, I personally hate posting comments from her streams here because they generally encourage witch hunting and/or circle jerking.

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>>4617359
Miko had an entire stream of her just installing a new update for a game and talking over it.

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>>4617604
mori reads the comments and she doesn't always have to tweet that she reads the comments for to her to be aware of it ofc she's aware

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>>4617907
>games devs never show up for Calli streams
Really nigger?

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>>4617808
Getting really fucking sick of retarded devs making beat 'em up games and only including local multiplayer. Like this is supposed to be some homegrown nostalgia trip to the arcade. Fuck off, no one fucking goes outside anymore, especially now.

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>>4618107
I get it for cover though. There was a time when korone was allowed to play a game by sega but because the game changed to a different publisher or something, antis started emailing the new publisher about korone illegally playing their game.

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>>4618006
Every streamer will always get criticized for little shits that they've done

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>>4618064
The fact she actually did that for World of Darkness, and they thankfully were watching and granted her access on the spot was a miracle, and makes me think more than anything else Cover's management is just that fucking incompetent, but sadly Mori still relies on them to actually do their jobs.
Then we get shitstorms like this.

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>>4617907
>Omocat
>Not a Dev
Retard

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>>4618198
This is why they should've played a GOOD beat em up like Phantom Breaker
https://store.steampowered.com/app/329490/Phantom_Breaker_Battle_Grounds/

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>>4618345
Yeah say whatever you want about the Cuphead stuff but it's hard for me to give management the benefit of the doubt and blame it all on Mori when they've fucked her raw on permissions before for literally no reason aside from laziness/lack of organization.

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>>4618135
Poorly phrased on my part. She reads comments, yes. The dramatic reaction shows it had a larger impact than usual. Where she's saying it didn't meet standards. Kind of does lend some support to the idea someone contacted her, which if handled the right way could be a good thing.

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This is the second time within like a week that she's had a menhara breakdown on twitter at night only to backtrack on it in the morning.

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>>4618107
>>4618345
Sure, I get that they can't play on PC because of game permissions, but was there really a need for it to be multiplayer? Is the multiplayer better than singleplayer? I mean, they both could open RCG streams, talk normally on discord or play the game separately to see who gets to a certain point the fastest like how Korone and Marine played an old game over a time limit.

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>>4618345
I don't know if this entirely Cover. Only EN gets a lot of miscom with permissions nowadays. JP nor ID never have this issue since the holocaust.

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>>4618593
I mean they COULD do that but that isn't what they had planned. And last time they tried something like that we got the Lethal League collab that didn't work out as hoped for Mori.

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I think people just got too used to holojp girls ability to adapt to emergency situations and their super good chemistry in collabs. The holojp girls' ability to make something out of nothing or to appear seamlessly in collabs are actually pretty hard to achieve and probably took a lot of reps behind the scenes. As talented as holoen is, they are still a bit behind in terms of streaming skills.

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>>4618593
Yeah, they should've pushed the collab in this direction instead when they can't play multiplayer to keep everyone happy

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>>4618517
This is a menhera breakdown and an overreaction for you? or am i missing something?

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>>4618418
I was actually thinking of Phantom Breaker when I made that post. When the game first came out it was also local multiplayer only until a bunch of people (including me) complained to the devs. Took like a year for them to finally include it.

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>>4618719
Don't respond to obvious bait idiot. He's gonna try to drag you down into another retarded argument.

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>>4618688
That and the JP girls and even IDs actually hang out IRL often to make those chemistry work

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>>4618719
It kind of is. She goes from "I'm happy we're ending on a good note" to "This is so fucking bad, it shouldn't exist. It was a MISTAKE. I shouldn't have come back so soon." That's definitely a breakdown if I've ever seen one.

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>>4618750
nah there are people who genuinely think this is an overreaction lmao

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>>4618804
It's a single tweet. Relax. Didn't we go through this just a week ago where a lot of people freaked out because of ONE tweet?

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>>4611525
Wait Mori is friends with the lead animator? I'm friends with some of the devs... does this mean i'm 3rd degrees of separation from Mori?

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THEY ARE

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>>4619284
TERRIBLE AT COMMUNICATING

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>>4619284
Fed up with upper management!

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>>4618791
>>4618688
This is why I won't really doompost about the EN girls. Their JP have been doing this for many years now even before joining Hololive. En were all newbies in streaming in general including Ame. There is a learning curve and that can be different for everyone. And since this is a public job, criticisms will come from left and right. A lot are valid and many aren't. All they can really do is to take the bad with the good and learn from them.

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>>4619063
Not sure about friends, but Kay's been a big holofag for quite some time. Honestly was looking forward to what dumb shit Kay was gonna make specifically for the collab.

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>>4618848
Why is there is over emphasis on "paragraphs", are people just that incapable of reading more than 10 words?
Some of the comments were a little wordy, sure, but it doesn't make what they were saying somehow worse.

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>>4619872
Twitter/Social Media culture has ingrained a "more words=bad" mentality on people. It infects videogames, movies, card games, and even books.

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>>4619872
If it can't fit in 140 characters of a Twitter post, it's too long to read and you're trying too hard.

t. zoomer and ESL social media addicts

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Impregnating Mori!

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>>4620196
Making out with and feeling up Mori!

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>>4616475
>I would make sure to have the perms ready first. Send them to my manager too.
Considering that whole kerfuffle with the TTRPG permissions, where it took MONTHS for them to notice that she didn't actually have the autism-approved permissions, I don't really think asking her manager would help.

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>>4619284
BUFFOONS (but we still love them)

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>jwu
>600 new posts
Shit, you guys went nuts as they say
>>4597294
>server side live2d
Wouldn't it run into the same issue today's Cuphead did?

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>>4609131
Based af, never failed to deliver

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>>4620826
It's ogey. You did not miss much. Just some light concern interspaced with love.
Supposedly there's some other things they could try to stream games across that distance but I would know zero about it.

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>>4608502
>make a mountain out of a molehill
That's both sides

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>>4609403
>make mori feel like shit
>saviorfags swoop in and start groomin'
keikaku doori

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https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1401048638021783564

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>>4610356
...That's not normal?

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>>4611074
>>4611174
>>4611607
bizarre kek

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>>4611504
>hyper-sensitive twats
Are you sure you get to say this, anon? I mean, they're not the ones triggered by a virtual youtuber of all things.

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>people moved on from yesterday's stream
>mori reuploaded the archive cutting out the bad parts
>morig somehow still in meltdown mode
Sasuguh deadbeats. You guys really are worst fanbase in all of hololive. You guys can't make shit and do nothing but whine all day. Except for you dojinbeat, peanutsbeat, bgmbeat and papers please beat, you guys are cool.

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>>4610894
Idk probably because she should know at least this much by this point! You dont see the other girls ask their manager to wipe their ass do you? Fucking deadtard! Ofc everyone else is at fault except for you retarded oshi

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>>4621034
>still have the tab open from before
>can freely scroll through deleted parts
I wonder how Youtube actually works....

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>>4614587
>Calli

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>>4621034
Sa-su-guh, Mori. Appreciate the honesty when she's not happy with something but she should learn to not pick up her phone to post something she's just going to counter later.

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>>4621260
Guac

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>>4621252
Peanutsbeat?

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>>4620998
I've been saying this since yesterday. They are actual insane deadbeats here. They're the ones making anti threads, posting walls of text containing schizo ramblings, they get a kick out ofc
bringing her down and shitting on her and being the only people left to save her after everyone hates on her.

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>>4609532
"Allegedly?" she almost certainly doesn't come here. /vt/ is pretty marginal in the community.

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>>4621413
meds

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>>4621384
That one drawbeat who usually posts here, his artstyle reminds me of Peanuts the comic strip. He's the one who drew that picture of her sleeping in a bed of plushies

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>>4611301
That's because J-chad scold her about her constant stream scuff. She focused too much on her roomate stuff. Ofc it's okay to take her "mori" job as a side hustle, but please fucking take it seriously geez..

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>>4621450
That’s a pretty cool nickname, I’ll be sure to call him that next time he pops up.

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>>4621284
You probably have it cached.

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>>4621432
Did you miss the past threads where deadbeats were posting walls of text about how lazy she's become only to later admit they were overreacting and felt bad for starting anti threads. They also admitted to baiting people in global to hate on her.

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>>4621465
Now stuff like this is just shitposting. Using specific info and pretending to care and then trying to turn it against her. The worst kind of post.
Not a skeleton, some fleshy wearing a cheap Halloween store costume.

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>>4615649
Hope this makes its way into the comments desu

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Engage in physical contact with the greenery growing from the ground outside.

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>>4615775
kek

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>>4610660
She'll come back with a mid song that everyone praises, and nothing will be solved.

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>>4621535
You can tell they're tourists when they still assume she'a working on roommate stuff when she actually robbed her old fanbase of a cover song and posted it as mori instead kek

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>>4621533
that you believe everything you read here, or even worse that you only believe things that confirm your predetermined biases, just strengthens my argument that you should take your meds

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>>4621465
What’s with the roommate rrat?
She’s focused too much on her hololive stuff. Ofc it's okay to take her "dice" job as a side hustle, but please fucking take it seriously geez...

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>>4621608
>when she actually robbed her old fanbase of a cover song and posted it as mori
I mean, if you want to be FACTUAL, it was never theirs in the first place. It was made with the intention to be posted as Mori and the only reason she even considered releasing it on another channel was that she ran into difficulties. It was never her roommate's in the first place.

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>>4621608
>>4621651
And by "theirs" I mean roommatefags, as in it wasn't "their" cover and they weren't robbed of anything because it wasn't made for them in the first place.

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>>4621604
>>4621465
Guac
>>4621535
>>4621637
>not replying with guac
Ngmi

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>>4621680
quack. brap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKvwsVwVkoU

[Anonymous No.]

[Good News] K’s woke up after passing out busting to Roboco’s new outfit
https://youtu.be/SltLz7Vwd_4

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>>4612506
She really should just request transfer to INNK or lessen her schedule to less taxing streams like Karaoke with freetalk inbetweens, light gaming like among us with deadbeats, or mario kart (streams that involves interactions with her audience) and save the long stream for a game she really love like she did with omori. Most music oriented vtuber do that.

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>>4621608
>when she actually robbed her old fanbase of a cover song
stfu, UNITY > Voland Voxel Cover
I still wanna see D666’s the MV art though

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>>4610479
>her generation
what the fuck my dude stop calling us old

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>>4612506
>>4621760
Guac

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>>4621771
I kind of want to gently squeeze the lucimelon and hear it squeak
There's got to be a few versions of that MV. Since it had the new outfit and then included all the girls. Plus the one you mentioned. Big ups to Savi for doing the job, possibly twice.

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>>4620899
Well, I'm done catching up now. Not enough Mori love. Not nearly.

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>>4621953
This is dope

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>>4620826
>Wouldn't it run into the same issue today's Cuphead did?
I mean that's how they've been doing it right. As long as ther devs are competent and they use servers all over the world it's pretty feasible to sell as a service.

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>>4621953
Gonna let you in on something, slowbeat.
There's never enough.

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>>4621953
Gomenyasorry. I tried my best (once I stopped drinking the SB juice and got over those few hours of thinking it was worse. We all got to stop doing that...)

>That pic
The thought of spider-Mori scares me. She did say she has invisible hands though so she probably could multitask like crazy. She should still get rest though!

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K’s is seriously so good

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>>4622309
Is this a remix of diy? Is there a full version of it?

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>>4622450
No idea I think he’s just mixing it with his regular dj setup now

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>reuploads the phasmophobia part
do I kneel?

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>>4622733
with respect

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>>4622733
It's best part, it just took too long to get there

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>>4621760
INNK is dead tho?

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>>4623019
don't worry, Mori will move to Vsingers isntead

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Am i imagining things or did she say she wished she extended her break in a tweet? And no i didn't bother reading this thread[/ spoiler]

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>>4623144
It's more like " i thought i was ready/had my shit together after the break but it seems i am not".
Don't read too much into it.
She's gonna keep streaming and whatnot.

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>>4623233
Ahh okay thanks

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>>4623233
It's like she was saying that she had a hangover, not that she's going to take a break again. Anyone who thought about extensions should be shot.

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>>4623127
That'd be pretty cool, do a FBK style of being involved in 2 gens. Imagine if one of the Vsingers forte is rock, we could've had a Vtuber Linkin Park.

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>>4623315
Your Boy can be rather ominous when she speaks, all three tweets about this (and even some normal ones) sound way too formal and serious than she actually intends.
But yeah, take a deep breath and read it slowly, nothing worth worrying over.
SV is going to be fun, since we have someone that has experience guiding her.
Next streams are going to be good too

[Anonymous No.]

Deadbros RIP just reached 20 million views

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>tfw made the mistake of reading through an entire new thread I haven't been caught up with after "drama" happened....AGAIN
fuck me, I should know better by now

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>>4608085
>A thread for the discussion of the fetus deletus reaper yeetus of vods herself, Mori Calliope, and the members of her deadbeat tech team.

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>>4608085
Mori's milkers make her streams more enjoyable. A nice pair of reaper tatas. Deathtits. Best breasts in the game. I don't even like boobs much.