Cover's new sales pitch just dropped

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Cover's new sales pitch just dropped Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:39:44 2023 No.46012789 [Reply] [Original]

https://cover-corp.com/ir/news/230327_5253_COVER_Materials_for_Growth_Opportunities_and_Strategies.pdf

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:44:25 2023 No.46013087 File: 521 KB, 1557x857, 1679876671346916.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:45:26 2023 No.46013132 >>46012789 AIEEEEEE SISTERS DONT LOOK

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:46:54 2023 No.46013211 oh no no no nijibros?????

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:47:53 2023 No.46013275 >>46012789 Can someone explain this to me, I ain't a Business Major

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:48:08 2023 No.46013288 File: 1.93 MB, 1574x2000, 1654945394236.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46012789 those flex kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:49:46 2023 No.46013379 >>46012789 HOLY SHIT COVER YOU CAN'T FLEX LIKE THAT

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:50:06 2023 No.46013407 >>46013087 Do people actually like groups over individuals? I don't want pink woman in my gura merch

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:50:47 2023 No.46013455

>>46013275
Yes, given the aforementioned evidence, it is very highly logical to conclude that a select number of the values presented are larger than the other. However some values are smaller too, making one corporate entity more highly valuable than the other.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:50:58 2023 No.46013469 >>46013275 Hololive is doing better in every category except number of vtubers, which is actually a good thing. They're making a lot more money with a lot less vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:51:15 2023 No.46013486 >>46013275 Quality >quantity

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:51:23 2023 No.46013498 this reminds me that my among us merch from the amongus store still hasnt shipped yet. fuck you among us i sent them two emails and they said their shipping is indefinitely delayed because of covid

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:51:27 2023 No.46013502 File: 124 KB, 957x801, EA481D0A-5169-437C-991E-6A16A8BA8E76.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46012789 Fixed

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:51:52 2023 No.46013530

>>46013275
Nijisanji has more vtubers but a little under of a third of 1m+ sub channels, they get half the yearly revenue per vtuber and I may be wrong on the first one but it says they have 161 vtubers but only 66million total subs across all those channels while cover has more with 100 less channels

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:51:55 2023 No.46013538 you should probably not include that last statistics since every savvy investor will figure out that 68200 is less than 87161

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:52:05 2023 No.46013545 I love how they ignore ANycolor total revenue and cherry pick everything to make them look better. And then faggots who dont look at both financials dont know

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:52:15 2023 No.46013553 >>46013407 Groups are a business strategy, it prevent you from putting all your eggs in one basket and having it blow up like Laplus almost did not too long ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:53:00 2023 No.46013599 >>46013545 Nijicope

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:53:04 2023 No.46013608 >>46013553 True. Get people attached to groups over people and you can keep it going longer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:53:08 2023 No.46013615 File: 149 KB, 1214x973, anycover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Funny how this part they dont post, because you can't make it look better

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:53:42 2023 No.46013659 >>46013455 Thanks for the heads-up, man you know it's comical if the only thing Anycolor is beating Cover Corp at is the number of Vtubers releasing per year lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:53:48 2023 No.46013667 >>46012789 that chart is downright monstrous lmao >yeah basically we killing our direct competition in every metric besides number of employees

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:53:48 2023 No.46013666 >>46013545 Anon, it's the same exact cope that Intel is using, they're taking a beating on the major statistics, yet are completely coping with their bigger capital.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:54:07 2023 No.46013689 Where's Pekora? Isn't she the top vtuber?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:55:07 2023 No.46013760 >>46012789 HAHAHAHA nijisisters!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:55:38 2023 No.46013794 >>46013760 They are coping in this thread right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:56:01 2023 No.46013818 >>46013689 rent free

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:56:06 2023 No.46013826 >>46013615 Well yeah, that is only logical and marketing 101

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:56:16 2023 No.46013831 So did the /#/ thread orgasm already on this pdf?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:56:18 2023 No.46013832 >>46012789 >Other corpos advertising themselves - "We have le creative freedom you don't want to join the evil ones right?" >Cover advertising themselves - "We got the numbers more than you, you, you and you cry about it"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:56:25 2023 No.46013843 >>46013407 It's great when the group is good, but I'm a 5th gen fan so I'm biased.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:57:45 2023 No.46013924 cover raelly is doing comparisons, so i guess anycolor will do it for the next quarter. what fucking retards they were for doing that

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:57:45 2023 No.46013925 >>46013538 That's revenue, now deduct the cost of having 161 livers

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:57:46 2023 No.46013926 >>46013832 >Why is a presentation for investors talking about money?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:57:56 2023 No.46013946 based gura carrying the hololive on her child shoulders.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:58:23 2023 No.46013970 >>46013538 The entire point is to show your growth potential. Sure, Anykara makes more money NOW. But Hololive shows they have more room for growth and profitability. If you are an investor, it's obvious which is more attractive to invest in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:58:29 2023 No.46013978 >>46012789 Now post the HoloStars one

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:58:41 2023 No.46013989 >>46012789 dont really care about the bootlicking, the less cut a company makes is the more my oshi makes

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:58:48 2023 No.46013996 >>46013615 Growth potential matters more. Anycolor is magnitudes bigger with how many people they employ but generate revenue and profit at a monstrously reduced rate compared to Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:58:48 2023 No.46013995 >>46013545 >>46013666 Nijicope and nijiseethe

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:58:52 2023 No.46013999 >>46013925 anycolor doesn't care about their livers and probably spend far less on them than hololive does though

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:59:43 2023 No.46014054 >>46013794 coping by pointing out how they are cherry picking and making retarded comparisons with another business? while not showing the full picture? cover is hiding info

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:59:49 2023 No.46014063 >>46013924 Nijiseethe

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:59:55 2023 No.46014070 >>46013843 Cover is investing in gen-only shows, EN Connect is one of them and NePoLaBo concert will be the other. So yes, looks like group related content can get more revenue than one talent alone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:00:07 2023 No.46014078 >>46013970 Facts anon, can't way for NijiEN to close shop lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:00:29 2023 No.46014102 >>46014054 nijicope

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:00:43 2023 No.46014111 >>46013996 No, it doesn't

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:00:50 2023 No.46014120

>>46013615
Total revenue =/= attractive business partner. You made more total revenue, great. How does that benefit me, exactly? Will I get in on that revenue? Cover's thing is a sales pitch to make them interesting to partners and advertisers. Cover is demonstrating that advertising or partnering with their talents is, pound for pound, more worthwhile than anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:01:05 2023 No.46014135 >>46013995 Anon, I was equating Intel to Any color.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:01:07 2023 No.46014136 File: 37 KB, 1266x204, 1654371161246.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hololive to be the Youtube killer

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:01:35 2023 No.46014177 >>46013996 They have 2x higher profit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:02:53 2023 No.46014251 lol at having to show yearly revenue per vtuber to massage the number to look better

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:03:07 2023 No.46014269 File: 146 KB, 2762x1157, 1670761531235821.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:03:25 2023 No.46014287 >I'm faster because I operate at 4GHz >Actually, I can Do more @1.4GHz than you can This argument in a nutshell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:03:33 2023 No.46014293 >>46014136 that's their long term plan i don't know how they'll be able to handle traffic from all around the globe if they're creating everything from scratch (backend, servers, UI, etc)

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:03:53 2023 No.46014319

>>46013407
Yeah? Cover realized it's extremely profitable and Nijisanji has been trying to copy its success since Selejo.
Something else very important noted in the slides (and financial docs) is that they're going to start making localized merch for EN and build a supply chain in NA.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:03:58 2023 No.46014322 >>46013545 >document made to attract investors >we should make our competitors look like a more attractive investment what kind of autism is this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:04:15 2023 No.46014341 >>46012789 LMAO those stats are pure cope.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:04:17 2023 No.46014343 So many seething nijikeks itt kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:04:26 2023 No.46014354 File: 317 KB, 600x536, 1654516738604.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46012789 STOP STOOOOOOOOOOP THEY'RE ALREADY DEAD

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:04:33 2023 No.46014358

>>46014293
>i don't know how they'll be able to handle traffic from all around the globe
they won't. fans already hate moving over to twitch you think they'll go sign up for an account on hololive's shitty platform? they're over estimating how much people give a shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:05:01 2023 No.46014388 >>46014111 >>46014177 NTA, but stop being retarded. Any investor can see that Holo vtubers make a lot more money per talent. They're going to see that each one is successful compared to a lot of people in Niji that just don't make anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:05:10 2023 No.46014398 >>46014136 HoloEarth is probably what Cover mentioned here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:05:14 2023 No.46014406 >>46013831 Still orgamsing yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:05:18 2023 No.46014412 File: 102 KB, 1230x686, niji revenue.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46013996 LOL

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:05:52 2023 No.46014451 >>46014136 JESUS BATMAN HOLY SHIT! Cover just declared war on Youtube

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:05:56 2023 No.46014456

>>46014136
doubt it, the platform will probably be only for hololive and MAYBE some affiliated streamers
and they'll probably still stream on youtube even when their propriety app releases although they'll probably have some streams/content exclusive to their platform, growing without youtube would be very difficult

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:06:03 2023 No.46014461 >>46014136 >Therefore, we do not solely depend on a single platform It's just an additional thing for things like the fanclub, streams that are no good for Youtube, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:06:19 2023 No.46014484 >>46014136 Interesting. This has a very, very high chance of being a total flop but depending on how well this app does on mobile devices then it might give some returns on the long term. Youtube's copyright/ad hell is only getting worse after all

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:06:20 2023 No.46014486 >>46014412 Anon, it's the same GHz cope Intel has been spewing during the Pentium 4 era.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:06:29 2023 No.46014495 >>46014358 >in our platform, the chuubas will wear panties instead of spats and don't have to worry about youtube cracking down on booba and lewd asmr I'm in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:06:49 2023 No.46014517 >>46014269 Oh come on now

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:06:49 2023 No.46014516 >>46014388 >per talent Means absolutely fucking shit for investors. What matters is revenue and profit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:06:50 2023 No.46014518 >>46014136 Don't they already do that with their fan club streams?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:06:58 2023 No.46014527 >>46012789 I’m kinda surprised that they make more from superchats and memberships than merch

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:07:45 2023 No.46014590 >>46014388 You're wasting your time. This concept is completely foreign to nijiniggers and they just cannot compute. It's only all about the company, their oshi Anycolor, to them. Nothing, or anyone, else matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:07:53 2023 No.46014597 >>46014516 Anon, if that was the case, Sony, and MS would've tapped Intel for their console processors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:07:56 2023 No.46014599 >>46013087 >They're admitting themes are important. Hololive Legends when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:08:15 2023 No.46014617 >>46014518 Fanclub goes through niconico's backend. It's not reliant on youtube specifically, but it's still sharing revenue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:08:19 2023 No.46014624 >>46014136 That shit is way too expensive

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:08:26 2023 No.46014629 File: 37 KB, 256x256, 1649808036920.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doesn't this mean that cover has to please shareholders now? So like, they might start forcing talents to do certain things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:09:06 2023 No.46014663 >>46014136 >floatplane but hololive Uhh based?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:09:16 2023 No.46014670 >>46014629 Like stream? Haha just kidding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:09:34 2023 No.46014687 >>46014527 Why? It's literally free money. Merch costs money to develop and manufacture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:09:37 2023 No.46014691 >>46013615 >>46014412 Gotta love how these are the only two slides Nijifags are proud about and kept sharing Meanwhile Holochads are dropping the entire pdf link

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:09:38 2023 No.46014694 File: 333 KB, 1920x1080, 1671321374235.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46014629 Yeah. Like stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:09:43 2023 No.46014700 >>46012789 None of those stats make any money. This is pure desperation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:10:15 2023 No.46014739 >>46014700 Did you just say "revenue per vtuber" doesn't make money? Isn't that money?????? A lot in fact

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:10:26 2023 No.46014752 >>46014670 >>46014694 that or they could force them to become shitty react streamers and such cause it makes more money

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:10:27 2023 No.46014753 >>46014527 Because it means that the Holos are taking home most of the merch profit. It also explains why Cover doesn't feel the need to re-run bday/anniversary merch cause it doesn't make the company much money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:11:03 2023 No.46014783 >>46013615 something i find interesting cover revenue from stream and merch are almost equal and we know that talents get the most from merch and least from superchat This mean talents in hololive are really making bank

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:11:09 2023 No.46014789 File: 305 KB, 443x558, EiABWDuU4AEho-r.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46014629 >Nooooooooo don't make me stream noooooooo

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:11:20 2023 No.46014800 >>46014700 yearly revenue per vtuber???

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:11:52 2023 No.46014827 >>46014629 Does that mean I will get to sex my oshi if I became a big time investor? Hehe

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:11:59 2023 No.46014835 >>46012789 >almost 100 less chuubas Just wait for Anykara’s FOUR NEW WAVES

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:13:11 2023 No.46014899 >>46014783 We already knew talents in Hololive really make bank. Even if you're one of the lower tier holomems they still earn more than enough to live comfortably.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:14:08 2023 No.46014954 >>46014783 The runt of JP (Roboco) makes enough money to buy a house in Tokyo

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:14:42 2023 No.46014990 >>46012789 Do they have put anything about the sheer amount of times where a chuuba reccomending something immediately brought sites down from amount of people trying to buy something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:15:01 2023 No.46015004 >>46014700 >Profit got shared with the talents >Where's the money in this? Holy shit Nijifags, you think like this? No wonder the turnover rate is so damn high

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:15:05 2023 No.46015008 >>46014752 That devalues the brand, I doubt it makes more money in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:16:06 2023 No.46015061 >>46013407 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:16:18 2023 No.46015079 File: 83 KB, 1724x233, 1679213589679156.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46015004 >Holy shit Nijifags, you think like this? See picrel. It's really how they think. Their oshi is Anycolor after all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:17:06 2023 No.46015129 >>46013275 Quality over quantity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:17:18 2023 No.46015140 >>46014783 didn't they straight up say YAGOO was making less than coco (and some other talents) around the time coco was graduating

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:17:39 2023 No.46015164 >>46013615 yeah let's show how blackkara gets pumped with chink money to manipulate the stock market. you dont actually fucking believe they legit made this much right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:18:06 2023 No.46015195 >>46015004 >>Profit got shared with the talents LOL how do you read revenue per talent as this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:18:12 2023 No.46015200 >>46015129 >muh quality over quantity Now show streams

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:18:13 2023 No.46015204 >>46015004 The fact that Pomu confirmed that donations are what give them the biggest cut and merch was the lowest was pretty sad. For Holos it's merch above everything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:19:14 2023 No.46015278 >>46015204 Show hard evidence, retard. I don't care about what livers say.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:19:49 2023 No.46015319 File: 385 KB, 1921x1153, holoJPaverage.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46014136 i mean, with all the bullshit youtube is throwing their way with shadowbans and ccvid im not surprised at all they would want a more reliable platform.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:21:03 2023 No.46015414 >>46013925 Niji doesn't invest in their talents so they have lower operating costs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:21:12 2023 No.46015429 >>46014269 ># of Vtubers >N/A Bruh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:21:22 2023 No.46015442 >>46014412 and where exactly is this money, smartass???? stop copying and pasting mindless graphs that dont mean anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:22:26 2023 No.46015512 >>46014629 >gura will have to build atlantis ahahahaha that bitch is done for

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:24:20 2023 No.46015633 File: 73 KB, 300x300, 1678770391331440.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nijiniggers on suicide watch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:24:56 2023 No.46015664 >>46015204 Ofcourse because nijisanji is a evil slave company

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:25:14 2023 No.46015683 >>46012789 Okay, yagoo... >https://cover-corp.com/ir/news/230327_5253_COVER_Materials_for_Growth_Opportunities_and_Strategies.pdf You convinced me. where can I invest?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:25:45 2023 No.46015709 Anycolor is like Nokia when the iPhone was introduced into the Market, They've been coping with their "numbers"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:26:08 2023 No.46015731 >>46015278 >Audience don't even trust what the Niji livers says now The only hard evidence I need, Nijisanji really is in shambles

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:27:00 2023 No.46015799 >>46015204 And that somehow makes the other source of revenue simply disappear, right? how do you think pomu herself pay for her shit? Voice packs, streamlabs, SC and merch all make money, even if merch is the lowest

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:27:27 2023 No.46015825

>>46013538
Holy fuck, that's not how you invest. When you look at which companies to invest into, you don't look at just "ok, which made more money". You find the most effective company that has the potential for growth, resulting in a greater RoI. You have two companies on display here. The first company has expanded significantly more. The second company has clearly some room to expand in the future but is still somehow significantly more effective than the other company, which makes the second company much more appealing to invest in.

Revenue means jackshit if you don't see other stastitics. Is that revenue being spent in house for greater expanding or improving of products? How much was their expenses? What was the breakdown for their expenses? Focusing entirely on revenue for investment purposes is literally the most idiotic investment advice possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:28:01 2023 No.46015862 I love how there's an entire thing showing brave group, vshojo and 774 but anons cut to just anycolor

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:28:27 2023 No.46015894 File: 477 KB, 1517x602, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46014783 >talents in hololive are really making bank no shit talents get money from everything

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:29:28 2023 No.46015960 >>46015862 > I can't believe Coke fans are focusing on Pepsi, when Dr Pepper, RC Cola and A&W exists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:29:31 2023 No.46015970 >>46014358 They are a VR tech company. HoloEarth is what YAGOO has been working towards, since his first VR ping pong game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:29:55 2023 No.46016004 >>46014495 >Reddit forced meme go back

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:30:07 2023 No.46016012

>>46015825
>When you look at which companies to invest into, you don't look at just "ok, which made more money". You find the most effective company that has the potential for growth, resulting in a greater RoI.
actually you look for companies that are undervalued compared to what their numbers are showing, then figure out why that is the case, and if you feel it's unjustified then you invest

"dude this is going to blow up i swear to god" is how room temp iq redditors invest

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:30:51 2023 No.46016056 >>46016012 Except that in this example. Anycolor is Intel, COVER is AMD.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:30:58 2023 No.46016063 >>46012789 This place is full of shills of corporations. Disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:31:28 2023 No.46016116 File: 57 KB, 1010x566, coversub.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the actual list

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:31:59 2023 No.46016166 >>46015894 oh shit that's a lot of money

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:32:20 2023 No.46016189 >>46015862 Because there's almost no relevant information about the other 3 and they're minnows compared to Anycolor/Cover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:32:51 2023 No.46016234 >>46016056 If this keeps up, Cover will become Intel though. Anycolor needs to keep themselves in the game

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:32:54 2023 No.46016236 >>46016116 Damn the girls make a bank over there in hololand

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:32:57 2023 No.46016243 >>46015894 Ah yes, the same thing that anycolor has in their sheets too, funny kek this is just default, its not telling anything about how much they got, just the company

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:33:45 2023 No.46016308 >>46016116 This is the first time I'm hearing about Brave group

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:33:49 2023 No.46016315 >>46015278 CEO TRUST Talent HAET

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:34:11 2023 No.46016346 >>46014899 >>46014954 >>46015140 They list that their revenue is 38.4% streaming, 16.1% event, 35.3% merch, 10% sponsored and collab so if we combine revenue from all talents, it could be higher than what cover get

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:34:52 2023 No.46016386 >>46012789 DELETE THIS AIIIIIIEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:35:00 2023 No.46016393 >>46016234 AMD is still beating up Intel in the Workstations, while Intel is actually gaining ground in value CPU's like the 12400/13400's, Where AMD actually abandoned the Ryzen 3

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:35:16 2023 No.46016408 >>46016346 None of that has anything to do with talents but showing that their revenue from these are divided with members. Anycolor has the same thing on their financial documents.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:36:17 2023 No.46016478 >>46012789 ratiocope

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:36:17 2023 No.46016477 >>46012789 But nijisisters told me nijis are more popular in Japan therefore more profitable there! How can this be?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:36:22 2023 No.46016484 File: 753 KB, 749x676, 1527852932506.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46012789 Revenue per vtuber is literally numberfag le average ccv tier cope. Holy fuck Cover this is looking grim.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:36:53 2023 No.46016520 >>46016308 Brave Group is VSPO (esports vtubers) + some other minor vtuber groups.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:37:21 2023 No.46016553 >>46016484 Anon, your cope is the same cope that Nokia said when the iPhone debutted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:38:34 2023 No.46016641 >>46015825 Niji revenue grew 50% yty. NijiEN revenue grew almost 800% yty. Cover is nowhere near that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:38:35 2023 No.46016642 Cover should debut 100 more vtubers in 2023 or they're leaving 20,000 MM JPY on the table

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:40:49 2023 No.46016793 >>46015164 Yes, I do, because im not a retard who never looked at financial sheets before, I look at those for years and know how they are real

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:40:58 2023 No.46016800 >>46014783 They earn more than their CCV counterpart in streamers because vtubing culture, especially for JP corpos, tends to buy more merch, donate more and have more YT vod views than the average twitch streamer's community.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:41:50 2023 No.46016850 File: 54 KB, 1007x528, anycolorcut.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46015894 so.. the same as anycolor

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:43:02 2023 No.46016918

>>46016553
You are so fucking stupid it's unreal. Anykara is not only making more money they are also growing faster. Revenue per streamer is literally the only financial stat Cover has over Anykara but it's completely meaningless when like half of NijiJP are small streamers that rarely stream.

It's a different business model and it's obviously working much better for Nijis. Sure biggest Hololive girls are making more money than biggest Niji streamers but that means nothing for investors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:44:17 2023 No.46016995 File: 134 KB, 527x416, HololiveStreaming Platform.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I make new hororaifu app you wir rike it

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:44:33 2023 No.46017012 >>46014629 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:44:52 2023 No.46017036 >>46013455 >cope cope >words words >square root of the mephistopheles quadratic angle >cope cope ogey

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:46:23 2023 No.46017127 >Anycolor is literally Converse in the 1980's >Hololive is Nike after they signed MJ This is how it's going along.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:46:54 2023 No.46017159

>>46016408
yes, none of this that show here has anything to do with talents
but hololive talents gets more cut from merch and cover get less, i saw or heard somewhere that talent get 90% of merch which i think it might be exaggerating
if the cut is 75% talents 25% cover, then combining all talents revenue would be 105% of cover revenue

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:47:23 2023 No.46017188 >>46016918 Anon, imagine being a fan of the company instead of the talent. That's kind of hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:49:11 2023 No.46017291 >>46017188 But this is exactly what holofags are doing? NijiEN fans actually have streams to watch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:50:21 2023 No.46017375 File: 94 KB, 1200x900, Cover vs Anycolor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46012789 The best part is they used outdated stats to look better.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:50:27 2023 No.46017381

>>46013545
>I love how they ignore ANycolor total revenue and cherry pick everything to make them look better. And then faggots who dont look at both financials dont know
Yes retard, that is how appealing to investors works. Anycolor can take the exact same statistics and frame it in a different way to make them look better to invest in as well. Cover can focus on "sub number CCV big!" and Anycolor could say "total revenue big!" or whatever, or Anycolor could argue that more talents with half the average profit per talent is worth more than the opposite, or whatever. 95% of business is just being good with words

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:50:53 2023 No.46017417

>>46012789
The real question is why the fucking hell do you retards care about these numbers at all? Why don't you just watch the people you enjoy watching? Why do you seem to value the wealth of a company over your own personal enjoyment you get out of it? Are you so utterly autistic that any metric besides numbers makes no sense to you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:51:33 2023 No.46017464 >>46017375 nah anon it's still the latest stats but they just used "per vtuber" stats

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:51:35 2023 No.46017470 Riku >capitalist pig that kowtows to China >sweatshop boss that doesn't care about if his employees commit career suicide Yagoo >beloved meme CEO that said lick my sweaty balls to China >saviorfags broken talented girls and makes them rich

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:52:40 2023 No.46017543 >>46017291 >$10.00 deposited to Riku's yacht funds.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:52:50 2023 No.46017561
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>>46012789
Nijisanji is truly the Chinese economy vtuber agency.
A outrageous amount of people who earn pennies, but your earn is comparable to your rival because there's so fucking many of them.
While Cover are fewer people who individually earn more and still outgross them collectively.
It's like an analogy to the American vs Chinese economy

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:52:52 2023 No.46017564 >>46017464 Nah they used 2022 when fiscal 2023 just ended.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:52:58 2023 No.46017570 >>46017375 Niji -> Black bar

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:53:19 2023 No.46017586 >>46017417 Because nijiniggers started the whole numberfag braggging.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:54:00 2023 No.46017626 >>46012789 Yachtbros not like this.....

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:54:17 2023 No.46017650 File: 8 KB, 159x199, 1487708847920.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46017375 >black company represented by black bar

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:54:32 2023 No.46017665 >>46013275 Chinese swarm tactics with a shotgun approach isn't as effective as targeted marketing

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:54:35 2023 No.46017668

>>46014516
It matters when the money they make is comparable, Nijinig. They illustrate they can release a new gen and given their metrics it WILL be successful. With what they show here JP7+EN3 pushes them right over your shit, and with an environment where talents will actually want to stay rather than graduate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:56:53 2023 No.46017815 >>46014136 I hope they get masterfully fucked in the ass with copyright. You're no longer under the loose American copyright law my yellow friend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:57:03 2023 No.46017821 File: 299 KB, 1024x1017, kekwomega.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Nijinigger getting owned in their game again and again AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:57:26 2023 No.46017843

>>46013087
So collabs and licensing + group IP make more profit compared to direct revenue from individual talents in terms of SC and merch? Kinda curious how big the sponsorships are. I know Bushiroad's sponsorship at least is big enough to bankroll their past yearly HoloFes events.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:57:37 2023 No.46017858

>>46014629
I doubt their model will change much or at all since they show it's already very effective. They outcompete everyone easily on a vtuber by vtuber basis. They also strictly outline in the document that talent health is a priority as it's part and parcel of their business's integrity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:59:05 2023 No.46017941 >>46013978 He doesnt know..

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:59:09 2023 No.46017947

>>46014136
If Cover has their own platform and stream exclusively on that platform, they will slowly shrink
Cover still have to rely on third party platforms like YT to acquire new fans
YT might be shitty, but they are known to all internet users, even 5 years old kids know and use YT nowadays

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:59:41 2023 No.46017987 File: 35 KB, 653x434, 1679375362685108.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46017375 >They admit that they're niggers Toplel

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:59:54 2023 No.46018017 >Nijisanji >like your basic Chinese company >overwhelm the market with cheap solutions, no questions asked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:01:08 2023 No.46018102 >>46017941 which now completely makes the AMD/COVER vs Intel/Anycolor parallel, apt, as Holostarts is Literally Radeon Technologies Group.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:01:11 2023 No.46018107
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>>46017291
>NijiEN fans actually have streams to watch
>NijiEN : 2 active streams, barely over 1200 viewers in total
>HoloEN : 5 active streams, Baelz and Ame alone are around 9000 viewers in total
Kek Nijinigs, who's not watching streams now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:01:14 2023 No.46018108 >>46017815 >loose American copyright law laughs in Disney

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:02:16 2023 No.46018171 >>46012789 NIJISISSIES IN THE DIRT

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:02:28 2023 No.46018185
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>>46014136
Damn, I suggested it a lot of times before but never thought they would really go for it, thought it was just a unlikely dream but now it's going forward, maybe I should be a entrepreneur...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:02:36 2023 No.46018198 >>46016918 >Anykara growing faster >NIjiEN mandate of heaven over >stream and numbers trending down, down, down. >NijiJP numbers anemic at best, and compounded by dropping Apex interest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:03:37 2023 No.46018278 >>46017417 Nijiniggers started it and now they are whining that the boot is on the other foot

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:04:58 2023 No.46018365 File: 44 KB, 446x498, 1544672398084.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46018107 >getting beat by the bottom bitch femboy

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:05:31 2023 No.46018403 >>46016308 The legendary "black company" behind the Game Club Company. They seem to be well behaved now and have acquired other groups like RIOT Music, VSPO! and other groups

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:06:05 2023 No.46018460

>>46017843
Sponsorships are always massive expeditures since new customers are typically hard to come by. With holo fans (or idols in general), fan will scoop up what they can especially if there's some add-on merch attached to it. So it'd be reasonable to assume that holo-associated campaigns are pretty effective, meaning they can probably ask for even more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:07:12 2023 No.46018550 >>46018365 Isn't Aster a femboy too?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:09:00 2023 No.46018690 >>46017561 Anycolor is much closer to an American capitalists wet dream. The talents either sink or swim with minimal handholding or investment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:09:16 2023 No.46018714 >>46018550 I wouldn't know, I don't watch NijiEN outside of Rosemi and Selen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:09:27 2023 No.46018729 >>46014070 They saw it worked well and pushed Gen 0 and 1 to do stuff last year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:10:46 2023 No.46018824 I really dont like how it seems like theyre investing into this "metaverse" as their endgame.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:13:33 2023 No.46019018 >>46014495 I get to see full power choco? I'm also in

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:13:34 2023 No.46019019 >>46018824 That's how companies spell Tax Evasions

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:14:52 2023 No.46019111 >>46018824 not really an endgame probably just an alternative if somehow youtube fuck them over

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:19:48 2023 No.46019417 >>46018824 Just because dudebros and Meta ruined the term does not mean someone won't be able to find a good use for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:21:32 2023 No.46019544 File: 697 KB, 1082x739, cc48032e000b4ae8d4fd94f5d009ad9e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46013843 Based. NePoLaBo love.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:24:10 2023 No.46019712 >>46017947 They not gonna abandon youtube but they also not stupid enough to put all their eggs into youtube, this will be their fallback.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:25:10 2023 No.46019774
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>>46014456
>doubt it, the platform will probably be only for hololive and MAYBE some affiliated streamers
Here is my guess, and it's based on what I have seen this far, there is a big chance that cover is seeking to profit from indie chubas if they give a better cut than what yt and twitch have to offer, there may also be the chance that the offer doesn't have to be superior from what these platforms already offer IF that means that some random indie gets to stream on the same exclusive platform where the holo girls are also streaming, meaning, if they have to pay more to stream there, the hololive buff could make it worth it, but it will all depend on how reliable the service is and how new user friendly it is.
The other reason that leads me to believe that they seek to profit from indies is the new building for 3D they are making, if you're an indie, suddenly you don't have to pay tens of thousands to get a professional setting, just go to cover's room and rent a room and they lend you the tech, and again, the indies (or corporate too, why won't nijis go there instead of building their own) that decide to rent that building may get the holo buff too, maybe they would stack kek.
Huge initial investment but in terms of maintenance... maybe it could self sustain? or at least reduce costs because the expensive tech that would be used on holos only now can be shared and suddenly is not that expensive in the long run. But only time will tell if it will work, it's very ambitious and it could flop hard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:30:15 2023 No.46020099 >>46019019 >jp government endorse metaverse >cover embrace metaverse >tax evasion Lol, would be funny if you found out they got tax deduction instead

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:30:15 2023 No.46020098

>>46013659
200MM JPY x 68 from cover
vs
87MM JPY x 161 chuuba from anycolor
That means anycolor earn more overall

But despite the way they placed it we know damn well not even half of both corpos vtubers actually earn them 200/87MM yearly and some selective group earn cover/anycolor multiple times those figures

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:30:54 2023 No.46020137 >>46015140 Yeah, because Yagoo is based and pays himself a fixed salary while he let's his talent take a percentage onto of a lower fixed salary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:37:00 2023 No.46020509 >>46020099 Isn't that basically the same? Less tax to be paid at the end of the day, and better yet it's legal too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:37:31 2023 No.46020546 File: 1.11 MB, 200x192, 1657868726647.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46017291 God I love nijiseething

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:43:09 2023 No.46020943 >>46013087 Notice this people? Streaming is "relatively low" profit. This is why Gura never streams. Cover is busy "licensing" her out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:47:12 2023 No.46021200 >>46018550 I'm told he rejected that and is just a salty gamer

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:49:30 2023 No.46021334 >>46012789 PDF got removed from the site.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:50:08 2023 No.46021380 >>46018690 Go back commutranny

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:50:39 2023 No.46021427 >>46019774 You're looking at small money from struggling indies. They want the tech to go mainstream and license it to entertainment companies with deep pockets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:51:25 2023 No.46021481 >>46019774 interesting take

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:53:48 2023 No.46021630 >>46020943 Have u even read the pdf yet ? they're clearly mentioned the most money they make was from superchat and membership

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:54:38 2023 No.46021689 >>46013615 >>46014412 >posting stock manipulation schemes ngmi anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:54:47 2023 No.46021703 >>46014319 A funny fact, at one point holo was trying to copy the niji wave strategy. I can't find the pasta but it's basically the way the gamers gen came to be

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:55:18 2023 No.46021734

>>46013275
Cover leads massively in popularity and commercialization of their talent in comparison to Any color.

Though an 200 million yen for annual revenue is absolutely insane for cover. That's 1.5 million USD per year. If we were to assume the talent got just 10% of that on average that's over 6 figures.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:56:21 2023 No.46021815 >>46021334 oof why would they tho? most numbers were public info anyway if you were autistic enough to collect all of it just look at /#/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:57:02 2023 No.46021862 >>46014451 Not really, but even so cover hardly drew first blood in that fight

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:58:25 2023 No.46021930 >>46021630 no >>46021334

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:58:43 2023 No.46021947 >>46021815 Probably to remove the company namedrop

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:59:20 2023 No.46021996 >>46021815 Someone informed them of CookieSwirlC. Gotta fix everything now that they aren't the top NA vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:59:49 2023 No.46022029 >>46021815 jp document didn't list other companies when comparing subscribers and clip channels, while the en one did

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:59:50 2023 No.46022033 >>46021815 Only the English PDF. JP PDFs are still there. Probably found a mistake / mistranslation or two.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:59:50 2023 No.46022031 >>46017188 Nta, but this is what "Holofans" ITT are doing They are stroking the ego of a company, slowly becoming the nijiniggers that they hate Disgusting

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:00:53 2023 No.46022095
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>>46015894
I already know this when suisei knew that her mochidoru plushie is not in production. That mean they need talents permission for merch, suisei even need to correct one of the same of her figurine because the boobs are too big.
>>46016850
Then, why pomu asked pomudachi to stop buying her merch?
Like, come on, i dare you to post pics of nijisanji's merch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:02:43 2023 No.46022245 >>46014136 >one stream key >shows up on kick,youtube and twitch imagine

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:04:02 2023 No.46022343 >>46014752 I thought they couldn't react because of fear of copyright?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:04:24 2023 No.46022373 >>46018107 >>NijiEN fans actually have streams to watch It's always funny when they watch that shit, yet didn't have the time to watch nijisanji talents.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:04:28 2023 No.46022378 >>46021703 Never heard this cope before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:05:31 2023 No.46022447 >>46021947 jp version is still up with same content, so probably some error in english

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:06:47 2023 No.46022547 Getting into nijisanji through pomu's streams was a mistake and makes me feel sad Like I am neutral to negative toward the majority of nijisanji and hate what they did to zaion but it still stings especially when I know pomu and Rosemi are stuck there

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:07:59 2023 No.46022649
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Am i the only one that don't give a fuck about corpo but only the talent in it

Just discovered Pippa and Lisa and they seem way better interacting with each other than everyone in EN. And i prefer to listen to them than listening to ina or gura ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:09:43 2023 No.46022765 File: 216 KB, 1080x1941, 1679886521375.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:09:58 2023 No.46022781 can't we analyze these things as interesting data on the media we consume as the consumers we are? people fight as if it were an investor competition

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:11:05 2023 No.46022857 >>46022781 my oshi > your oshi

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:13:03 2023 No.46022998

>>46013545
>I love how they ignore ANycolor total revenue and cherry pick everything to make them look better.
Of course they do, they're trying to please their investors.

Frankly I think their strategy is a winning one, but both Cover and Anycolor are relatively minor players in the world at large.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:13:46 2023 No.46023041 >>46017815 >loose American copyright law I hope this was a joke anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:13:50 2023 No.46023043 >>46017417 Because nijiniggers on /jp/ used to CONSTANTLY numberfag against hololive and it's eternally hilarious seeing them lose their minds

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:16:15 2023 No.46023191 >>46012789 Wow, numberfagging clipper channels? So how investors can get money from those channels?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:16:42 2023 No.46023222 >>46013407 Cover vtubers are tech workers and Niji vtubers are burger flippers

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:20:23 2023 No.46023441 >>46022765 Anyone have a backup?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:22:22 2023 No.46023553 >>46013275 Pretty much Hololive is doing well with less vtubers than Nijisanji with more vtubers. Makes perfect sense. That means if they steadily increase more gens to even just under half of Nijisanji, they'd overtake them overall everywhere else.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:22:33 2023 No.46023561

>>46013407
>Do people actually like groups over individuals?
No, but most Japanese corporations have an obsession with brand name. The cynical business reason is that any talent could potentially graduate but it's unlikely that an entire idol group would have a graduation. Cover is simply using the idol business model but in English it does sound odd to downplay the agency of the individual vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:23:15 2023 No.46023605 >>46022378 What cope? This was back when holos were 2views, it obviously worked out for them in the long run

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:25:08 2023 No.46023709 File: 1.37 MB, 2762x1157, 0238689573-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46012789

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:28:36 2023 No.46023903

>>46021427
That could be an option too... but, which company has used vtubers successfully until now? Netflix maybe? I think it's too soon for that until there are more companies that figure it out how to use them correctly, the only one that comes to mind that could try that right now and be a hit, is pokemon by using Iono to promote merch, be it games or plushies or the card game, maybe even konami if they want to break the 4th wall with their LIVE/EVIL twin archetype (kek, were they inspired by .LIVE?) and also promote merch, but that's a long stretch and they probably are busy right now with some VR shit, outside of those niche applications, I don't see why toyota for instance would want to invest in this.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:32:36 2023 No.46024119

>starts EN male auditions immediately after nijisanji tests the waters for them
>JP talents stop cross company interactions immediately after hitting it rich
>directly calls out anycolor in their stock report despite Anycolor not doing the same to them
Wow it's almost like Pomu was entirely correct in feeling like this is an all out war

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:33:52 2023 No.46024198 File: 523 KB, 2598x1066, 1679880400546133.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That's my girl. Dino plushie destroyed

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:35:32 2023 No.46024304 >>46023441 check /#/ and search for the catbox, people uploaded backup copies

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:36:02 2023 No.46024333

>>46013407
That's just talking in revenue terms. Groups can capture the combined audiences of each member, so you can push more merch for the less popular members if they're part of a popular group. Not only is it cheaper to produce group materials, but the audience is bigger just by default. Holo audiences also love group interaction and "tee tee", which increases engagement.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:36:09 2023 No.46024342 >>46024198 I guess if they were qualifying the revenue from initial dinoguras as unearned revenue until they delivered them. If not, the timing is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:37:17 2023 No.46024427 >>46024198 And the sisters in /nijiEN/ will still defend everyone's b-day merch becoming increasingly small acrylic plates

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:37:29 2023 No.46024438 >>46023903 Live action animated content or something. It just isn't like an IPO company to have a business plan that doesn't shoot to have sharp growth. I imagine they will have to experiment. Live2D stuff is already all over games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:38:11 2023 No.46024484 >>46023191 Free mindshare and marketing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:38:29 2023 No.46024505 >>46023191 Literal free advertising and an indicator of popularity and brand awareness/recognition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:39:02 2023 No.46024544 >>46023903 >which company has used vtubers successfully until now? Does she count? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj9AkNxxBbM

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:39:55 2023 No.46024603 >>46024119 Kek, maybe don't throw stone in glasses house

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:44:31 2023 No.46024913 >>46017586 >>46018278 >>46023043 >b-but muh nijiniggers started it!!1 pathetic kindergarten-tier excuse. so you're admitting you're as bad as nijiniggers then. Not a surprise since all tribalniggers are equally shit anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:44:58 2023 No.46024945 >>46014412 >NIJIANJI my eyes can't stop shooting right at that one whenever i see this posted, god damnit

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:45:51 2023 No.46025009

>>46012789
I just saw this pdf.
Yo you guys told me does not care much about their talent.
They keep reiterating that it's better to make sure their talents have the best, healthiest streaming environment and that they know how much help clippers actually do for them.
They also said that it's better to expand slowly than just going wave by wave because it makes sure talents are well cared for.

You guys seriously tried to convince people that Niji cares more for their talents than Cover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:46:00 2023 No.46025017 >>46024913 Is this the legendary "nijicope" I have heard of?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:47:03 2023 No.46025094 It's no secret that Cover is a smaller company than Anycolor, so why anon cope hard?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:50:02 2023 No.46025290 >>46024913 About the same justification they needed to hate enfags before they even got bad because of muh aloe

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:54:37 2023 No.46025579 >>46024913 >spend 2 years shitposting nonstop >get btfo >people point and laugh >y-you are as bad as tribalfag nijiniggers

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:55:04 2023 No.46025606 >>46024913 the dumb part is the holofags using this defense weren't even around on /jp/ and the nijiniggers that "started" the numberfagging aren't even on this board

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:57:42 2023 No.46025741 >>46024913 Yeah doesn't feel so good now that the boot is on the other foot now does it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:59:45 2023 No.46025875 >>46014136 And do they expect me to pay for a different membership on all these different platforms? Because if yes, then fuck that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:00:19 2023 No.46025921 >>46017417 >>46024913 so WHAT anon? nta but you must know that numberfaggotry is running deep even before /vt/ was made. let these fags have fun.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:00:22 2023 No.46025928

>>46024198
wrong year
The part they're highlighting was Oct to Dec 2021. If they book revenue right away it would correspond to sales from late August through start of December 2021. If they wait to book until they ship then it will be merch from the spring/summer. Or in other words Coco graduation merch rerun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:00:44 2023 No.46025954 File: 350 KB, 1092x1364, numbers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46024913 >>46025606 Did you forget this post? because I don't I was there that day

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:04:41 2023 No.46026204 >>46023561 It seems to be just marketing and profitability angle. Groups require almost no additional content (the individual talents do the main content) but have great return relative to effort

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:05:53 2023 No.46026284 >>46025928 I don't remember when I got my dino, were they delivered dec or jan? If so, they probably fit in this Q3 2023 spot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:09:41 2023 No.46026525 The fact the link went dead means someone from there was in this thread and mods have the ip

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:10:36 2023 No.46026596 >>46025875 Also, clippers how?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:11:29 2023 No.46026659 >>46026525 Oh no, the IP... they're so exposed... ahh...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:12:02 2023 No.46026697 >>46025954 oy vey! shut it down!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:12:09 2023 No.46026706 >>46026525 Toothpaste is outta the tube now. That info is all over the Internet now

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:12:44 2023 No.46026753 >>46012789 Surely someone saved a copy before it 404'd? Link please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:13:56 2023 No.46026823 File: 191 KB, 1440x1943, edit_1679890351074.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This company has admitted that sales are literally falling, why are you guys coping so hard?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:14:16 2023 No.46026841 >hololive is making more per vtuber Isn't that obvious already?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:14:53 2023 No.46026874 >>46026823 I know you're probably being facetious, but notice how the bars are different colors?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:15:22 2023 No.46026903 >>46026841 Not to coping nijiniggers

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:16:13 2023 No.46026955 >>46013275 Maybe you should finish your highschool first…..

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:16:47 2023 No.46026995 >>46026823 Are you tell me people can't burn they money because of economic situation?? Oh no anon I gonna empty my bank account right now!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:17:39 2023 No.46027055 >>46026874 You can literally see the numbers... God...

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:19:25 2023 No.46027161

>>46013924
Cover in general is still smaller than Anycolor. Comparison is kinda the right given to second-stringer, and whoever produced their slides last. Anycolor had their chance to show off, Cover is showing on how it can beat Anycolor.

Also funnily, the company logo is redacted in JP version but released fully in EN version. I guess the EN guy producing the slides are not aware of the "JP business manners" lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:20:58 2023 No.46027253 >>46024913 Honorless dog. You land strike after strike upon an unwilling opponent, and now that their sword has been drawn from its sheathe, you cry foul.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:21:20 2023 No.46027273 >>46027161 Cover is 2020 AMD, Anycolor Is pre-Alder Lake Intel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:21:48 2023 No.46027298 Hololive isn't competitive anymore

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:22:53 2023 No.46027355

>>46013925
Just check their profit margin for that. Its probably not that big though. Its technically just an up-front L2D commissioning, and probably 1 or 2 group songs. They will invest more if they get big but otherwise, just minimal. I think their manager-to-talent ratio is also pretty high too with 1 manager managing alot more talents compared to Cover's (Cover had 3 for 5 girls in Myth.). Given the number of employees (somehow smaller than Cover) it kinda checks out

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:24:34 2023 No.46027451 >>46027355 So literally sweatshop treatment? NO Wonder Pomu regrets things.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:25:16 2023 No.46027492

>>46014319
>...is that they're going to start making localized merch for EN and build a supply chain in NA.
They sat on their hands for wayyyy too long to make this profitable/viable anymore. EN audience is shrinking, and they seem dead set on not growing it by not releasing EN3.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:25:46 2023 No.46027525

>>46014136
If you know about Floatplane made by Linus Tech Tips, its probably same thing.

They won't get off Youtube, but they prepared escape hatch so they can continue to be operational if Youtube somehow get broken like when Twitter bought by Musk. How long until Suisei's shadowban lifted? How long until Miko's account get unlocked? Twitter support is going to hell, and the thing is getting more and more broken with nobody patching the walls

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:27:28 2023 No.46027630 >>46014120 They won't. Just an example, look at Floatplane by LTT. LTT still upload things daily on Youtube but its also available on Floatplane. Floatplane also have exclusives, but its more like bloopers and behind-the-scenes contents

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:28:42 2023 No.46027696 File: 316 KB, 512x512, 1675293994751803.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46024913 >i-its ok when we did it!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:28:50 2023 No.46027705 how do I invest in cover now that I finally have an income?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:29:46 2023 No.46027755

>>46019774
The appeal for indies to get onto this Holo platform could be as simple as streamlined collab opportunities. Like, if they're on the Holo app it'll basically be a "approved by Holomanagers for collabs" badge and Holos could just do a collab with anyone on that platform without going through management. That would attract a lot of indies.
Being on the app could also potentially streamline the renting of 3D studios owned by Cover, essentially having access to professional stuff(so long as your 3D live doesn't clash with a holo event).

The biggest lowkey appeal for both Cover and indies would unironically be ease of access to the indies for scouting and auditioning. Cover would have the data of the indies on their platform for their scouting, and any indies auditioning for Holo would just submit their name in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:32:36 2023 No.46027902 >>46025606 Speak for yourself sister you're not fooling anyone. The simple fact that you're going to bat for niji here and not on /jp/ means you're exclusively an EN "all out war" tribalist

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:39:59 2023 No.46028298 >>46027705 privately held company, I don't think you can unless you're invited to their funding rounds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:52:19 2023 No.46028914 >>46026525 This confirms Cover reads /vt/. They are here collecting data on all you fucks preparing the lawsuits! You wait!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:02:24 2023 No.46029444 File: 282 KB, 452x640, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46024913 Reminder that nijiniggers are the absolute cancer of this community

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:04:34 2023 No.46029549 >>46026823 2022 : 4 quarters 2023 : 3 quarters They are about to beat 2022 with only 3 quarters so the grand total for 2023 will absolutely beats 2022

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:09:53 2023 No.46029813 So how much of Anycolor stock is public vs that of Cover? someone said its 70% vs 25% is that accurate?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:11:41 2023 No.46029883 Anyone got a copy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:15:27 2023 No.46030050 >>46025954 Sorry you can't rewrite history. There's a post numberfagging Aqua just before that one: >>/jp/thread/S22768513#p22770243 Holobronies have always been numberniggers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:15:51 2023 No.46030065 >>46029883 All these people posting pics and you'd think it would be out there, but I haven't found it yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:18:43 2023 No.46030162 File: 136 KB, 975x847, Fr-2dowaAAAXZNy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >2019 and 2020 newfags are still butthurt from eating threadsperg bait and fueling the console war that they're responsible for This shit will outlive vtubing

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:20:00 2023 No.46030215 >>46029883 https://litter.catbox.moe/kv2dfb.pdf

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:20:56 2023 No.46030247 File: 427 KB, 629x614, 1602996493362.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46030215 Thank you anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:21:14 2023 No.46030263 >>46026284 Yeah, December/Jan was when most people got their Dino

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:22:30 2023 No.46030310 >>46030050 Nijibronies: >>/jp/thread/S22768513#p22768611

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:23:04 2023 No.46030334 >>46029813 It's 25% for both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:23:22 2023 No.46030348 >>46016346 During her exiting interview with Yagoo, he straight up agreed that she probably made more than he did.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:24:13 2023 No.46030387

>>46022031
As long as Cover protects my oshi and lets her do what she wants, I will TOLERATE them. And I WILL shit on them for all their bad decisions including Tempus2 and the EN3 delay, as well as their retarded shipping prices they didn't account for when they moved distribution in house.
Nijiniggers lick the company boot at the expense of their supposed oshi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:27:22 2023 No.46030514 >>46030310 It's all posted by the same dude if you notice the filenames. He doesn't seem to have any particular allegiance to either but clearly leans more towards being a holobrony going by the Aqua post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:27:25 2023 No.46030517 >>46026525 It was posted openly on their website, anon. It's not a leak.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:29:15 2023 No.46030583 >>46023903 Hello Kitty(sanrio) has been a vtuber for a few years now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:32:13 2023 No.46030686 >>46030514 Also: >>/jp/thread/S22768513#p22769928 Post shitting on Mayuzumi for getting surpassed by Pekora later.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:34:14 2023 No.46030765 >>46030514 okay, let's go with the blatant nijiniggery: >>/jp/thread/S32049921#p32072559

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:37:38 2023 No.46030871 File: 1.24 MB, 1200x1200, aloe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Imagine throwing a once in a lifetime opportunity over a few mean comment kek Rushia too

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:37:47 2023 No.46030876

>>46014136
>the people who behind hololive's track and rigging will be behind a fucking streaming platform
Yeah, that's an absolute trainwreck in the making. At absolute best, all they're doing is creating a very expensive and time consuming way to host slightly lewd content and avoid youtube's 30% cut. If they mean to simulcast as well, I absolutely can't wait for the shitshow that will be the inevitable 10/1mbps internet + shitty laptop debuts, because they would rather waste money on dumb shit like this instead of getting their streamers what they need to stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:38:49 2023 No.46030911 >>46030876 *who are behind hololive's tracking wow I sea brained there hard for a second

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:39:58 2023 No.46030957 >>46030871 >over a few mean comment Was she not dealing with stalkers? Or are you talking about what started the drama?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:42:36 2023 No.46031047

>>46014136
I don't think they're going to abandon Youtube because they'd kill off there own fanbase but I think they want full monetization of certain things, No more SPWN, Full superchat %, Membership streams on the new platform etc.

They can paywall lives or other things on the new platform which you can't do on Youtube etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:44:35 2023 No.46031116 >>46030876 Japanese web development in general does not inspire much confidence before even getting into questions of Cover's competency. Best case scenario they just use it for their paid events and don't fuck up too much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:45:14 2023 No.46031140 >>46022378 It's only sensible to copy the current top dog when starting out. Good thing cover started to cook their own soup quickly enough and now everyone is trying to be like cover instead.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:47:33 2023 No.46031234

>>46030957
She was dealing with one stalker that was schizo enough to pose a real physical risk to her. I honestly wonder that due to how much time has passed now, if Cover could just move her into a new place on the other side of Japan and redebut her. Aloe was pretty cute.
Maybe even give Chris a real debut with a new performer rather then let her model go to waste?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:48:41 2023 No.46031274
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>>46012789
>Yearly revenue per vtuber in holo: 200, # of vtubers 68
>Yearly revenue per vtuber in Nijisanji: 87, with 161 vtubers
That means Hololive earns yearly 13600 and Anycolor earns 14007
ANOTHER FUCKING L FOR COVER
FUCKING LMAO HOLOKEKS

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:49:27 2023 No.46031311 >>46012789 Fun fact: CookieSwirlC alone is bigger than the last three shown in this page combined.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:49:37 2023 No.46031315 >>46030765 >a year later when the threads were already separate >meanwhile you have this extremely butthurt post about noombers in the holo thread one day before that one was made: >>/jp/thread/S32019968#p32021303

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:49:49 2023 No.46031323 >>46031116 That would be a horrible idea and I hope they do it. The sudden surge of tens of thousands of people who just spent money to watch will set what dinky servers they got on fire, as a million other things all break at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:58:23 2023 No.46031643 >>46031274 One not only that the number for Nijisanji is wrong even this year they don't have 161 talents, as it says last year which wouldn't have any of the newer gens from en or jp which is 20 people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 05:59:31 2023 No.46031685 File: 359 KB, 1263x711, Elu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46024119 >JP talents stop cross company interactions immediately after hitting it rich Retard-sama...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:00:40 2023 No.46031738 File: 1.21 MB, 1280x720, ip4aRxtoDaX.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46031685

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:01:30 2023 No.46031779 >>46029444 Kek

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:03:40 2023 No.46031866

>>46014783
Mori bought a house,Marine was willing to pay the rent of a separate house for her NEET sister and give her an allowance, Pekora has a fucking monkey.
For all the criticism Hololive gets, not paying their talent what they are worth is not one of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:10:40 2023 No.46032149 >>46014136 Its probably so they can do events safely outside youtube like Hololive Summer, if they do simultaneous streams it wont hurt their numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:13:17 2023 No.46032257 >>46031685 >>46031738 doesn't count

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:17:30 2023 No.46032418 >>46031315 here's from 2019 for you, nijibro: >>/jp/thread/S22658386#p22664613

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:17:53 2023 No.46032431 File: 246 KB, 1224x1445, 1520302778100.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>46032257 >retard statement >proven wrong on multiple accounts

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:27:00 2023 No.46032751 >>46030871 The harassment was so bad and her mental health so poor, that she spent weeks at a time at the hospital recovering from stress ulcers. It was bad.

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