/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Why are most vtubers terrified of the word parasocial?

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>>45905636
My oshi and others jp dont make a big deal so its a another dumb west taboo

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>>45905636
Only normalfaggots are afraid of that word

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Because he spoke the truth

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>>45905636
Because it has been subverted and used by people bashing anyone that dares to care about a chuubas

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>>45905636
Because most vtubers are women and thus believe whatever propaganda they are fed on social media.

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>>45905719
>defending your favorite eceleb's honor on the internet
>not parasocial

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>>45905636
Because of the people who frequent this board. Just wait until some chuuba's name ends up in a manifesto preceding some truly fucked up shit.

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>>45905636
Because they are retarded normalfags

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>>45905636
they dont understand what it means and they think parasocial is just a new word for "deranged superfan stalker who wants to dismember all your limbs to make trophies"

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>>45905636
theyre afraid of becoming like (you)

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>>45906160
Based

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I want to say the whole Vox akuma incident with his rabbid fans from a while back really stigmatized the word as something to stay away from, where in reality most vtubers are and probably should be some form of parasocial. The problem is they only understand parasocial at it's most toxic, where fans are fully convinced they're in some kind relationship with the streamer.
Any good streamer is gonna be parasocial with their chat to some degree. If they aren't parasocial then that means they have no connection with their chat/fans, and that's just another one of those shit communities where the streamer just bitches at chat all the time like some toxic bitch.

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>>45905719
How can someone this boring even exist without imploding?

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Some chuubas want to believe that they’re above it all. Like “they aren’t following me because they have a close connection of some sort with me, they just do it because I’m funny and entertaining!”
This medium though is heavily reliant on forming connections with a community. It doesn’t have to be in a romantic sense either which people believe = parasocial. There’s like studies about this well before the advent of internet streamers, it’s been a case since TV talk shows.

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>>45905636
Because it normally it is associated with an obsession that only the top 1% of fans can pull through.
It is also associated with copious amounts of (condom) money thrown at a streamer.
Luckily kiara is also just as, if not more, insane than KFP so they have a unhealthy (but based) two way dependency

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Because thinking about stuff yourself is hard, especially for "cute" women. You've got to rely on other people for brains, only problem is being a little bit dumb also means you have no clue who is feeding you bullshit.

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>>45905636
Another thing for westerners to feel entitled over.
>People spend hours watching me every day because I'm so entertaining and talented.
>Surely, it's not because they are using my streams to satisfy their need for human connection (I think human connection is toxic and cringe for some reason)

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>>45905636
Because they don't understand what the word means and instead rely on the false definition they hear parroted by others.

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It is a term strongly associated with nutjobs like pic related

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Or pic related

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>>45905636
kfp lucky as fuck

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>>45905855
He cares about their wellbeing but not their death are these people real?

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>>45909494
>I'm a well adjusted sociopath, not like you nutjobs

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>>45905636
Because western female streamers want the advantages of exploiting the growing number of lonely permavirgins for their money without any of the disadvantages.

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>>45905719
When you tell those people "OK but I won't donate or watch them anymore" they fucking lose it because they expect "incels" to keep their favorite streamer afloat.

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Oshi issue lol

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>>45905636
Very few people really understand what it means and twitter retards memed it into being a bad word.

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Parasocial became the new evil because of Rushia when all the western vtubers tried to defend her by saying it’s ok that she’s a whore you should’ve expected it and still support her was also a brief period that whales only SC during members to avoid being targeted.
Next was vox situation which attacking reimu was wrong but she called him in the middle of his own stream to help with her problem instead of asking chat or google. Then vox said both sides are wrong he gets attacked by vtubers some that are his friend and forced to say parasocial fans are weird then getting a pat on the back by nijien, also when finana did l+ratio parasocial fucks while being groomed in a discord.
Then ending with the Tempus/Kronii situation everyone knows that.
In all these situations you aren’t parasocial if you unconditionally support everything they say or do even if it runs counter to their actions over the last year but disagree and you’re definitely an evil parasocial. It has been working tho smaller new indies/corpo immediately think it evil and then they become it anyway

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But if the relationship is two-way, then it's not parasocial

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>>45905636
it has a negative connotation with people who are psycho, but just watching vtubers is a parasocial relationship regardless of how much you like them

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>>45909866
Prove it

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>>45910314
If your oshi isn't dumb they probably wouldn't do something like
>L + ratio you parasocial fucks
Or just downplay the situation as platonic. They'd probably be smart enough to realize what the situation is, maybe give throw those fans a bone every now and then, but at least mostly be professional.

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>>45905636
Because it accurately describes the relationship between a streamer and their audience. Vtubers are terrified of the word because it's taken to mean "delusion of a relationship where none exists" but there are other ways to interpret the simultaneous but unilateral fan/entertainer dynamic while recognizing that there is genuinely no social connection between both parties. There is no possible way a real relationship could exist (the monkeysphere is an uncomfortable truth) but it doesn't prevent friendly interaction between two people who are essentially going to remain strangers to each other forever.

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>>45905636

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>>45905636
Because westerners are retarded

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>>45910314
Mumei is addicted to her fans, acts like a clingy gf.

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>>45905636
Don't know, but those who freely admit it and embrace the close relationship with their fans make watching chuubas worth it. That's what idols are all about, oshi brightening up fans' day and fans lifting up oshi's spirits in turn.

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>>45905855
Already parasocial, as much as he copes

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>this thread

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People think Parasocial means you fall in love with the vtuber, but in reality its just the type of interaction you have on the internet. It isn't fully social because you aren't physically together, but you're still interacting with individuals and as a community. There's nothing wrong with it, but as a vtuber in a corpo you have too many fans to give 1 on 1 attention and they keep their private life seperate. Infringing on the trust that you keep your relationship purely that of streamer and chat is where parasocial turns negative.

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>>45905636
I genuinely believe NijiEN heavily contributed towards the perversion of this word in the vtuber community.

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>>45905636
Because any extended discussion of the topic pretty much inevitably leads to uncomfortable questions related to how they make a living, how their methods affect their fans lives, and the causal effect it has on the negative fan behaviors that they most vehemently criticize.

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>>45905636
The term parasocial went from the image of a crazed schizo stalking some entertainer with photos of her taped all over his walls, to guys telling streamers "please don't act like a whore" and "stop talking about your boyfriend we don't care."

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I'm so glad the new vtuber company is parasocial as fuck
It's so good compared to retards like niji and their "L parasocial fucks, losers, btw valentines gfe stream come say hi haha" shit

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kiara should die

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NijiEN ruined it.

But realistically people like mori and ame always preferred a situation where people give them money, for existing, not because they liked them or anything.

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>>45914052
Nijien is just really toxic. People used to shit on vshojo but vshojo are just kind of slutty/one is a camwhore. Nijien is like "fuck you losers, give me moneyyyyy". Kinda messed up.

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>>45905636
The word "parasocial" is being used by Satan to trick humans into avoiding fellowship with one another. Divide and conquer.

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>>45911028
Westerners are just cold. Japanese can be cold but also understand affection. Westerners are like "all the women look like fat middle aged women and think you owe them for existing". It's just a bad, emotionally starved culture.

>>45910541
Most of them are openly retarded.

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>>45913998
you need to go back

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because the "para" part sounds scary and I'm convinced if the phenomenon were called something else it'd be a lot better understood

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>>45909678
>You have to lie back and accept these disadvantages and not complain about them because... well... YOU JUST HAVE TO, OKAY?!
btw kronii did nothing wrong and you know it

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>>45915696
>post reeks of basedjack
>retarded opinion

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>>45909751
I mean, did this person in particular? I would like to see screenshots of this guy in particular reacting like that.

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>>45905636
Because western normalfags assume that it describes only the most deranged fans or the most exploitative girls.

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>>45915696
Just start your first fucking stream by saying lonely men can fuck off and you don't need their money.
They won't because that would mean not enough people would watch them to make a living.

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>>45905855
Kek this is some sociopath shit. I'm pretty sure the girls would rather go out of their way for the fans that actually care about than the guy who goes "lol I wouldn't care if they died"

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>>45915696
>unfortunately, idol culture is a thing
>doesn’t even know Ahoy

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I unironically blame Ludwig for it.
But I also just think in general that westerners who don't understand what parasocial means have ruined the word

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>>45905636
Because twitter retard don't know definition of words.

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>>45913998
The term parrasocial went nowhere, both those are wrong and you need to go back.

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>>45915041
cybersocial seems to be a new term that was coined specifically for web video and streaming since it fits somewhere between the established social and parasocial.

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>>45917816
It's the fate of every psychological term to be misused until its original meaning becomes obscure academic trivia. There are still enough people who remember what "parasocial" meant that sometimes its misuse gets corrected. Nobody bothers to do that anymore with "passive aggressive" or "repression" or...

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>>45905636
>Why are most vtubers terrified of the word parasocial?
Because they dont understand what it actually means.
There is nothing wrong with parasociality. Feeling an attachment towards a creator/chuuba is fine because its natural. If someone is constantly streaming and showing people a part if themselves, its natural the audience will grow attached. These are literally the people who give them money/support.
Hell people feel parasocial towards people like pim toole and alex jones, so it isnt just a "romantic" thing.
The only time its bad is if you are simultaneously mentally ill and lack self awareness, because that horrific combunation will lead to overattachment, trauma-dumping, and thoughts like "if I send them a shit load of money, they'll eventually be my gf/friend!".

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>>45910314
Have you watched a Mumei stream? 75% of what she talks about is her personal life and feelings. What she did today, how school went, how she did on that test last week, how she's been feeling, when she went to sleep last night, what she bought at the grocery store.
I agree with the clingy gf comment

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>>45905855
>I dont even care if they die
kinda based. theyre just entertainment at the end of the day

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>>45905636
Because normalfags think it means something different than what it actually means

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>>45905636
Because parasocial is the new word for incel/simp for most.
Every streamer relies on having a parasocial audience because it's the reason why they rake in donation money by the thousands. And no, parasocial doesn't only mean you want to fuck them. A lot of male fleshtubers tap into this by making their chat feel like their friend/buddy and you wouldn't let a bro down, right? Maybe if you sent him $5 your bro will respond to your message.

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>>45905719
Baiting for (You)s here too, redditard?

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>>45905636
Reminder that you paypigs are the reason women are so afraid of actually giving a shit about their fans. You give them too much money without they even giving a shit about you.

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>>45905855
>I only care about their well being and content
>I don't really care even if they die
>I sure will cry for like a day and forget about them after 2 years
Holy fucking schizo...

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>>45905636
allowing for some plausible deniability. yeah, they are making much of their money from lonely, desperate, psychologically unwell men whos unfortunate lot in life they exploit, but as long as they don't actually embrace parasocial behavior but rather just kinda let it happen by itself, they can always just go "oh no, that wasn't my intention at all, I never actively fostered that kind of behavior!" and so on.
Honestly have more respect for the unapologetic manipultor types selling engagement rings rather than dishonest cowards pretending to be something other than what they are

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>>45905636
Parasocial is just one of those words internet zoomers have picked up and used it so much, that the meaning is almost vanished. Same thing with "toxic". These words are meaningless now.

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>>45910138
The stuff with Vox I remember seeing on Twitter and people keep telling him to be clear even though he did after and there were still some not satisfied.Like what else he is supposed to do some of those people won't stop just because he says something.I just remember being tired of seeing some dumb comments.

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>>45919241
The way she’s been posting in her rebroadcast chat really cements it.

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>>45919241
why did nobody tell me this? this sounds great. I will now watch your chuuba.

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>>45909751
(You) are imagining things.

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>>45922031
he might be saying it in the most cringe way possible but I would think the core idea should be the baseline assumption, no?
pareto principle (80% of output results from 20% of input) would suggest that most of the money comes from a small fraction of the consumer base. What type of people spend huge amounts of money on these girls? the normie, psychologically stable viewer watching them more as entertainment or the mentally fked lonley desperate low status male?
untill I see some stats suggesting otherwise I'm gonna assume that "parasocial incels" are prob a large % of the people keeping the whole business model afloat.

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>>45918722
I think the thing that kills me the most is that no matter how many vtubers flat out correct it and say that the interpretation of it is wrong, it's still repeated

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PARASOCIAL FUCKS

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>>45905636
qrd?

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>>45905636
Because most are too stupid to understand retards on twitter spammed a word they don't understand the meaning of because zoomers need to feel like special snowflakes about everything so they needed a new word to say 'creep.'

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>>45919893
>Honestly have more respect for the unapologetic manipultor types selling engagement rings rather than dishonest cowards pretending to be something other than what they are
I awe at you fuckers being so open with being lied to and being conned out of your money by some corpo company.

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Being parasocial isn't inherently bad. It just that vtubers fans by far the most mentally ill. Western fans taking it to another level.

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>>45938181
kek, who got this one?

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>>45938750
Luca. He handled it very well.
https://streamable.com/r2dqkl

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>>45910188
>>45905636
That's why vtubers cannot be parasocial because they know you exist and interact with you.
It's a misuse of the term.

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>>45905636
Because they only ever heard about it from some dramatuber, or worse a vtwitter.

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>>45939830
>nO, yOu gRoW uP!!
This is how children respond to criticism

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>>45938181
Another example. Being so unhinged that you get jealous of your oshi playing their genmate and friend. Makes no sense, but this shit happens.

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>>45942399
>Y-YOu're a child!!
Actually childish response to criticism. Not everything is about you.

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>>45937832
But I wasn't? And the point was: they are all doing it to some extent, the more openly manipulative ones are at least leaning so far into it that they can't play coy, while the likes of Kroni still siphon money from the same type of men, but they don't face what they are doing.
They get the money but try to keep the moral high ground as well. Which I find even more repulsive.

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>>45942801
I don't watch Luca's streams, but if what the superchat is saying is true, it's good criticism. They point out behavior that they don't like (butting into female coworker's streams), says how it makes them feel (makes you look like a skirt-chasing creep), points out the negative affects (hurts their income/reputation), and says that their behavior so far (owning the haters) is childish.

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>>45943519
>I don't watch Luca's streams,
That much is obvious.
>but if what the superchat is saying is true, it's good criticism
Playing with girls is a bad thing?
>They point out behavior that they don't like (butting into female coworker's streams),
Who gives a shit about what some random shitter has to thing? Don't like it, don't watch it. Not even gonna talk about the rest of the post because I already know you're some dishonest piece of shit.

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>>45905719
This is gospel truth. You /vt/faggots are as bad as the faggots on /cow/.

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>>45906245
>4chan has been following vtubers since Kizuna AI
>there hasn't been a single 4chan related yab bigger than "ZOINKS SHE'S HERE!"

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>>45944160
Nigger

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>>45943519
the dono would have been on to something if it was sent 8 months ago when he was actually doing those things, but at the time this dono was sent luca's interactions with the girls had been the lowest EVER. also the unfair ultimatum at the end basically saying if he collabs with the girls its just to own the haters and not bc he enjoys collabing with them makes it just seem like a schizo outburst. it was dogshit criticism with even more dogshit timing

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>>45944872
>sending donos to your oshi thinking that she will fuck you or get a le funni clip on your Vtuber clipping channel.
>sending donos to Ethan Ralph thinking the Guntamale would let you fuck his horse wife or get a rise out of him and post a clip on your Ralph alog twitter account.

Similar isn't it?

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>>45944028
>Playing with girls is a bad thing?
Why are you pretending to be retarded? You know exactly what that SC is referring to. The guy has a bad habit of barging into VCs and streams unannounced.

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>>45945194
>>sending donos to your oshi thinking that she will fuck you or get a le funni clip on your Vtuber clipping channel
Holy projection. Most people send SC just to support a streamer they like or have their comment read.
Seek medical help unironically.

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>>45944028
Your post is the perfect example of what's wrong with Niji fans. You midwits are so narcissistic and obsessed with being better than other people that you are blind to your own faults.
>Who gives a shit about what some random shitter has to thing?
If somebody is generous enough to spend hours of their day watching you play games and talk about random topics, you should care about what they think. You don't necessarily have to agree with them or change the whole stream for one guy, but you should be grateful for your fans and want them to enjoy the stream. This is why NijiSanji will never even come close to Hololive. Every time a fan gives the most lukewarm criticism, you tell them to go fuck themselves.
>I already know you're some dishonest piece of shit
About what? I already made it clear that I don't watch the dumpster fire that is NijiSanji. This is exactly what the superchatter was talking about. Niji talents and the people who follow them are so obsessed with owning the haters that they act like children and can't even show basic human decency.

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>>45910114
It's really annoying how they turned the word into meaning "imagining that the streamer is their lover".

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>>45944028
>Don't like it, don't watch it.
If it's unnanounced they don't have the choice not to watch it;

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>>45945241
>The guy has a bad habit of barging into VCs and streams unannounced
It's a "bad habit" because you retards see it as one. Actual normal people don't fucking care.

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>>45945912
Normal people don't watch cartoon puppets play minecraft.

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>>45938181
This guy's one of the biggest pieces of shit I've seen unironically does shit just out of spite to shit on others like a retarded manchild and gives 0 fucks about anyone else but himself.
Honestly impressed the NijiEN audience actually had someone that would speak up about this shit since most of them are spineless bitches that do not dare criticize their livers unless they do a bad thought joke.

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>>45945912
Normal people don't watch vtubers to begin with. Ironic Vtuber fans need to stop larping as normalfags.

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>>45946117
If anything, true normalfags would watch Maury or anything from da sektur more than Vtubers because they would think 2D is for kids.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpZlgJbvY5k

Unironically one of the few vtuber takes on this that are actually thought out and know what the fuck they are talking about.
Most vtubers are parasocial, most viewers are parasocial, if you consistently watch the same vtuber and care about them you are parasocial.
It's all a matter of how far you let those feelings go.
Do you feel bad when something bad happens to a vtuber, give them comments of support and cheer for them?
Good.
Just don't take it to this level >>45919158

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>>45905693
This

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>>45938181
God, i hate Luca so much

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KIARA MY DOG DIED LETS GOOOO

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>>45946382
>video essay niggers are now infecting vtubers
grim. it was good while it lasted, bros.

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I thought ZEA did a pretty good job talking about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwJmgCowN4

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Streamers basically provide a parasocial relationship.

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Japan showed that they have the most parasocial baseball fans.

Hololive modeling an Idol Agency is embracing that relationship. Because it's what many seek. And why they took over and will remain at the top. They make celebrities.

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>>45905636
westerners turned the word into a boogeyman

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>>45945762
>they don't have the choice not to watch it;
They're not strapping to a seat, you dumb fuck. Just close the tab. Holy shit!

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>>45945969
>>45946117
Going back to what I said about vtuber fans being the most mentally ill. And you wonder why the term "parasocial" has a bad rap.

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>>45938181
We haven't reached the stage were flesh streamers have their fans go to their house to hangout thinking they're actually friends.

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>>45905636
I'm pretty sure anons here are also scared of the word parasocial.

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>>45905636
Because it means they've got a genuine emotional attachment to an entity that a cabal of psychopathic old shareholders could just arbitrarily decide to take away from them at their next board meeting.

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>>45946052
>>45948544
Gonna cry? He does what he wants and there's nothing you fucks can do about it. But hey, keep throw your hate supas at him. Let see how far that gets you.

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parasocial is a term to describe a structure of a one-sided relationship
>I am parasocial
what even

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>>45909662
Kek

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>>45962339
No shit they don't, it's because they keep that shit hidden. Why else most of Luxiem are deathly afraid of seeing fans irl?

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>>45909494
he hopes tehy are well but if they die they die. honestly good mentality if you can manage it for anyone

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>>45938181
This one will always be my favorite supa that Luca got

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>>45962483
I wonder if you’re Luca, some other bootlicker that’s part of NijiEN, or just a lucub.
Quite frankly that anon doesn’t need to do much. His stats tanked like the rest of Luxiem.

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>>45963092
All that is on his part. Women won't stop throwing themselves at him irl.

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>>45963184
>starts numberfagging for no reason

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>>45956806
>Hololive modeling an Idol Agency is embracing that relationship. Because it's what many seek. And why they took over and will remain at the top
Or they just have better marketing. But go off I guess.

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>>45938181
Imagine being so butthurt about Luca looking at your oshi that you send him $100+ to tell him to stop.

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>>45905636

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>>45905636
they've been gaslit into thinking it's a bad thing

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>>45964939
Being parasocial isn't bad on itself since it's better than no social interaction at all, but ideally what you want is a reciprocal relationship. I think the negative connotation comes in when it's implied/inferred that it's somehow incel behavior when it's just fan behavior, the same thing as liking Jenna Ortega for her role as Wednesday.

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>>45905636
Streaming is always parasocial and anyone who says otherwise is in denial. The very concept of livestreaming implies you are trying to build a connection with this person beyond just watching their videos. If you are actually anti-parasocial you would be watching prerecorded videos on youtube that offer you editing, better quality content, trimmed fat, and all that nonsense. If you willingly choose to watch hours of uncut livestreaming then you are being parasocial with that streamer.
Fuck you reddit.

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>>45912675
People need to understand what Parasocial means. Ever followed a TV actor / football team / pop star / whatever? Omg! How dare you take interest in someone you don't personally know and might never meet!

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>>45905636
I'll just quote myself
>This happens all the fucking time, a new buzzword is discovered and people immediately proceed to run it to to the ground. Everyone starts calling everyone and everything the buzzword, and everyone becomes super paranoid of someone calling them the buzzword and start overcompensating to avoid such fate.
It's just dumb hysteria over a new (in public consciousness) concept but eventually there'll be a market correction and it won't be treated as the most important thing in the world anymore.

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>Vox: Fuck off you parasocial assholes
>Also Vox: No, wait, I love you all and I can't live without you, let me do a rape asmr to prove it!
>Finana: Fuck you parasocial FUCKS
>Also Finana: Please buy my wedding ring for San Valentine!
I honestly can't tell who is the worst between these two.

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Lucy Pyre actually did a good video about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpZlgJbvY5k

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>>45905693
This

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>>45970005
>vox was harassed by schizo "fans" and calling them out
>finana taking a swipe at those thinking she's their gf

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>>45967848
>Ever followed a TV actor / football team / pop star / whatever? Omg! How dare you take interest in someone you don't personally know and might never meet!
Yeah, not like there's ever been crazed celebrity fans doing insane shit. Oh wait! >>45909349 >>45909436

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People misconstruing something that is very fucking obvious and I'm not sure if they're doing it on purpose. If your first reaction to hearing of rumors or hints of your oshi being in a relationship is jealousy or hatred, then you need to take a step back. Even more so if they're simply talking with their co-workers!

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>>45905719
That last part actually makes me die inside, reddit vtuber fans are the most goofiest fucking losers ever I can't take it

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>>45971611
They purposely misunderstand the term because it strokes their ego. It makes them think that by putting down down others that they themselves are elevated in comparison. You see the same shit with how 4chan and reddit talk about each other respectively.

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>>45940078
I know this is just a troll post but those people are the most parasocial and likely to be dangerous or mentally ill. The distinction with vtubers is the vtubers themselves are parasocial whereas with old-school celebrities only their fans are parasocial.

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Remember when nobody knew about parasocial or that it was even a thing? I feel like this shit just blew up overnight and I can't remember what the trigger was.

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>>45971992
Looking at google trends it was relatively unknown up to 2019 and started ticking up in 2020, I think started when Ludwig started using the term to make content with "I am not your friend" stuff. Early 2021 seems to be when it really started taking off though with a huge spike in search around September 2021, might be OTK or other female streamers related. Only other major streamer related thing I can remember from back then was the Twitch leaks but I think that was later that year.

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There aren't many parasocial viewers. Most times it's just one literally mentally ill person in the chat.

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>>45973310
if you've ever felt bad for a streamer telling a sad personal story, you're parasocial
if you've ever felt happy or proud of a streamer achieving somthing, you're parasocial
if you follow a streamer on twitter and like/comment tweets about their everyday life, how they feel, you're parasocial
not everyone is parasocial, but a good chunk of viewers is, and almost the totality of people that donate/member

streamers conveniently forget this, encourage parasocial behaviour, until the parasocials start asking something in return
it's just public figures terrified of the responsability of being a public figure

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>>45971980
The fuck are you talking about, if the vtuber interacts with a member of chat, neither can be parasoical. That's a fact.

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>>45971311
Vox is actively encouraging his schizo fans tho

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>>45974366
>encouraging
Where were you when he told his schizos "fans" to fuck off if they are harassing his other fans or telling him to stop doing totsu collabs?

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I honestly don't know how people donate money to streamers.

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>>45974524
>but he told them to stop being shitty people
And then he told those same fans how much he loved them and rewarded them doing a few more rape asmr streams. Vox is the very definition of an attention whore, he won't stop encouraging his deranged fans because he loves too much getting his dick sucked off.

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>>45944276
Millie...

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>>45974772
>And then he told those same fans how much he loved them and rewarded them doing a few more rape asmr streams
You weren't here in November when he went off at shitheads harassing his fans during his rules update stream.

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>>45974873
>but he told them to stop being shitty people
>and then he kept showering them with love
Vox can say whatever he wants, but his actions are what matters the most, and he has the same volume of schizo fans as always.

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>>45905719
This is for him. What a king.

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>>45905636
>Kiara
Based but I still feel sorry for KFP

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>>45974967
You are conflating two different groups here and you know it. Stop being retarded.