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Previous thread: >>45628059
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>Duet cover of Ghost Rule with Kiara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOsFw-00l4
https://lnk.to/holo27_Covers_Vol1
>Duet cover of Queen (Kanaria) with Bae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnr0ReWfVQ
>The Forgotten Song (Whoo / Hatsune Miku)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-bBKa8Bb_Q
>First original song - A New Start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py21QCndbxc
https://cover.lnk.to/anewstart
>List of Songs / Karaokes
https://rentry.org/uoar4
>Chapters, Clips & Music Videos
https://rentry.org/Mumei-Karaoke
>Holo 4th Fes
https://rentry.org/who_4thfes
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>Youtube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3n5uGu18FoCy23ggWWp8tA
https://www.youtube.com/@NanashiMumei
>Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en
>Merch
https://rentry.org/who_merch_

Reminder: >>1
Do not reply to bait and 'invitations' to doxxshit, shitstirring or dramafaggotry (the general jargon for these individuals are 'printers'). Be it inside AND outside the thread - hide, report and move on.

>> No.45681870

I love moom, she’s so silly

>> No.45681925
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>>45681809
COOM
IN THE
MOOM

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>>45681809
Streams / M.E.S.
>【BIRTHDAY STREAM】 Birthday kirin on your screen!!
https://youtu.be/Dte5lhiMD7A?t=1893
>Holo 4th fes. rentry
https://rentry.org/who_4thfes
>Post Fes zatsu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyGTjsmw1-o
>HoloSpy with EN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWCaIKiwU3U&t=7230s

Useful links
>Schedule
https://teamup.com/ksua2ar4zft49pdn7c
>Fanart hunting links
https://pastebin.com/p0xDLG8K
>Tools : YouTube & Twitterspaces recorders
https://rentry.org/35q46

Database
>Library of /who/LEXandria
https://rentry.org/46mci
>Most recommended streams if you're new.
https://rentry.org/cgy92
>List of members streams + brief descriptions
https://rentry.org/7tb3o
>Database Backup
https://mooms.neocities.org/

OP template: https://rentry.org/7uy87
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Updates / additions :
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What the heck. Was having dinner and the thread suddenly died.

>>45681951
Updates / additions :
- Updated M.E.S. rentry with the Fauna birthday group call-in.
- Fixed an oopsie with the links in M.E.S. page, EN Year 1 should be linking to the updated one now.

>> No.45682043

Intern-kun is a BAKA!

>> No.45682084
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>>45681809
Blessed OP

>> No.45682154

owl difference

>> No.45682359

>>45682084
Girls putting their hair up into ponytails is distilled SEX

>> No.45682502
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>>45682359
Moom

>> No.45682627

Tatta futari...

>> No.45682832

>>45682359
Based. I see people who shit on ponytails but they are my favorite style for women

>> No.45683057
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WE ARE NANASHI MUMEI'S LEGION! HOLDING THE FORT UNTIL SHE RETURNS IN GOOD HEALTH! AVE MUMEI! AVE! AVE!!!


>>45682359
I love girls with ponytails. But I also like it during the rare times when they pull their hair down. I don't know if there's a word for it, but there should be. THERE SHOULD BE....ya'll ever seen Mai Shiranui with her hair down. Hot.

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>>45683057

>> No.45683300
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Moom baby

>> No.45683376

>>45683300
>pissbag started as a diaper

>> No.45683420

>>45683300
babu

>> No.45683906

>>45682832
Big poofy ponytails are the greatest hairstyle imaginable, and the single reason why Black and White are the best Pokemon games.

>> No.45684575

>>45683274
I see you are a man of culture as well.

>> No.45684755
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>>45684575
actually I started yakuza zero as my first game in the series yesterday. I just got to chapter 4 and don't know any spoilers

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>>45683274

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Rewatching GC and it's hilarious how dated the writing and direction is looking back

>> No.45685208

>>45684810
You know if you take away the sewer
and the knife
and the blood
and the mask

That's a really really cute mumei image

>> No.45685318
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she changed twitter header

>> No.45685484

>>45685318
She's bored when she's not streaming

>> No.45685519
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>>45685318
I actually like the old banner...

>> No.45685544

Mumei uses me as her handkerchief

>> No.45685564

>>45685318
You now remember that Sana is the only Council member with a non-default youtube header.

>> No.45685625
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I LOVE MUMEI!

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>>45685564
Yeah like is it company policy that dictates that they still need to use the default banner or is it just because the girls nearly use youtube outside of streaming that they just don't really care? I've always found the default corporate banner to be a bit stiff and weird.

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>> No.45685704

>>45685629
Kiara has changed hers fairly often and a few other Myths have changed theirs a few times, so no I don't think there is any policy about it. They may need to get changes approved first but that's about it. Council just hasn't bothered.

>> No.45685768

>>45684810
Who you think Mumei is stalking to fight?

>> No.45685772

>>45685629
* the girls nearly never use youtube outside of streaming
tired pls understand

>>45685704
Guess that's probably it.

>> No.45685818

>>45685768
me, literally me, always me

>> No.45685921

>>45685629
It's pretty simple to change, I just don't think council cares about it, it's not like you look at it often

>> No.45686311

>>45685768
Towa.

>> No.45686956

>>45678221
>/who/ got cute owltism
i shouldn't feel as happy about that..

>> No.45687364
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>The owltistic girl has owltistic fans

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OWL LOVE

>> No.45689055

Coom on and in the Moom

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>> No.45689817

>>45689430
Don't pop owls.

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>>45689430

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>>45689937

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>>45691144
I want to yank her ahoge

>> No.45692816

how you moomin?

>> No.45693025

>>45691271
Ahoge are like a cat's scruff, grab them by it and you render them immobile

>> No.45694077

The ahoge is an erogenous zone

>> No.45694111

>>45694077
same as the wings

>> No.45694260
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The ahoge is a very important tool. Do not touch or remove ahoge.

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>> No.45696165

my mumei

>> No.45696347

>>45696165
Mumei graduation soon because she revealed company secrets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyGTjsmw1-o&t=5760s

>> No.45696436

>>45696347
Mumei will NEVER graduate, Hololive or otherwise.

>> No.45696464

MY mumei

>> No.45696557

>>45696165
>>45696464
You guys can have her while I'm at work. However you can only feed her healthy foods, I'm the one who spoils her with sweets and ice cream

>> No.45696616
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Mumei's twitter profile is blue now from mobile instead of brown.. it's over..

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>>45696616
damn blue women...

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>>45696347
>Moom does that
>Kiara spoils en concert
Based birds

>> No.45696926

>>45696813
vigorous bird spanking correction needed

>> No.45697332

>>45696557
>food
yea, 'food'. it's all natural and fresh.

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>> No.45699474

>>45698265
>Idowlbutt
Shame that's all we got this time

>> No.45699548

>>45699474
There's other butts to stare at

>> No.45699554
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Wanashi Mumei

>> No.45699744

>>45699554
stinky bitch

>> No.45699802

>>45699744
*smelly female dog

>> No.45700146

>>45699554
odorous canine

>> No.45700260

>>45685519
What's the old banner?
I forgor

>> No.45700318

>>45699548
I only want to look at the moombutt

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>>45700318

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>>45700347
Nice...

>> No.45700503

Moombutt belongs to me

>> No.45700549

>>45700455
>angry
h-hot

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>>45700260
Looks something like this

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Good morning hoomans and hooties!

Luv Moom!

>>45683057
AVE!

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>> No.45703917

Nakadashi Mumei

>> No.45705249

>>45699474
I remember someone in global claiming he caught a brief glimpse of default Moombutt during Ghost Rule.

>> No.45705832

>>45705249
could have a look but not really expecting too much with the cape

>> No.45706040

>>45701890
Howdy!

>> No.45706568
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Is Mumei sexy?

>> No.45706952
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>>45706568

>> No.45707896

>>45706568
There is nothing sexy about birds

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>>45707896
>There is nothing sexy about birds
You sure about that anon?

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>>45708005
What is it about bird girls that makes me gravitate towards them...

>> No.45708512

>>45708005
>>45708273
>fluffy hugs
I wonder why..

>> No.45708890

Hooties would never cheat on Mumei with other birds

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>> No.45710102
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Moom

>> No.45710374

Jigsaw
https://jigex.com/dvvEh

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>> No.45710884

>>45710374
shes staring at me and its making me feel uncomfortable

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>>45710670

>> No.45711896

>>45710892
Suisex love

>> No.45712941

>>45707896
LUI
NEE

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>>45707896
but that's just not true

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>>45708512
>>45708273
wingmei comfy and fluffy

>> No.45714316

>>45713512
wingmei art is the best art

>> No.45714353
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https://youtu.be/QJ_IBo9hMlo?t=2506

>> No.45714475

>>45714353
irohasu will need to thank the mumei for this

>> No.45714571

>>45714353
so is that actually a trap for people lmao

>> No.45714676

>>45714353
cute duo

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>>45714353
I love gozaro and la+ models, wish I knew japanese.

>> No.45714791

>>45714571
It works quite well as a trap.

>> No.45714835

>>45714791
yeah but was that the intention of it?

>> No.45715241

>>45714676
irohasu reminds me a good bit of mubae

>> No.45715371

>>45686311
I got you now...TOWA-CHAN!

>> No.45715647

>>45714571
Did JP make it? Then there's a 90% chance its a trap.

>> No.45716759

>>45715647
Wasn't that Koyoris lab?

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>> No.45718148

>>45718102
Cuute

>> No.45718163

>>45718102
cute cute cute

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moom feet

>> No.45720305

>>45719985
stinky

>> No.45720552
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>>45719985
l-lewd

>> No.45720871

>>45688860
Beloved owl

>> No.45722074
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>> No.45722174

>>45719985
I always do a double take when I see this art... is just pure unfiltered sex... it's perfect.

>> No.45722199

>>45722074
cute and nice art style

>> No.45722875

>>45719985
too small

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>>45685629
>Cover
>having non-fucktarded company policies
Pick one.

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>>45685318
>>45685484
She's absolutely /here/ isn't she?

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>>45720552
stop lusting after owls

>> No.45723147

>>45723081
no, consider taking your meds

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>>45723137
Never. Look at this thing. Look how lewd it is

>> No.45723302

>>45723081
>>45723147
She never left.

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>>45723252
It's just an owl waking up.

>> No.45723376

>>45685318
I feel like she's REALLY enjoying this "idol" thing

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>>45723305
>tummy
>bellybutton

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>>45723081
In all honesty there has been somewhat proof that she lurks here. Though the most solid evidence is from before her debut when there was that odd message from an anon about watching her soon debut with cover. If that evidence does hold, it's about somewhat likely she knows about /vt/ and/or /who/.
I mean she could be anyone of us right now. In this very thread.

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>>45723376
Well she is an idowl after all

>> No.45723521

>>45723449
She's not /here/ you retard. Everyone knows Mumei shitposts on global

>> No.45723561

>>45723449
The Amber post does not match her writing style. Tripple dots,no plenks, not spaced emotes.. nothing of the sort. That said; she somehow knew about the owlcams and that is neither a global or tweeter thing.

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>>45723467
Do you think the next time she goes to Japan, she's gonna bootcamp hard like they did with Myth? I mean Bae stayed longer behind in Japan (after Fauna and Mumei left) because she basically bootcamped dancing/choregraphy

>> No.45723653

>>45723561
here >>45609410

>> No.45723670

>>45723608
Doubtful. She's always got multiple things going on, whether it is health or animol or civ duties which will draw her away. I mean she may get some training but it probably will be the same as her last trip

>> No.45723683

>>45723376
>>45723467
>https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637073181377961984
>I’m happy to be your idowl!!
It's literally her pinned tweet.

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>>45723561
I wouldn't be surprised. Honestly if that was true.
>>45723521
That's why I said if it holds true, a slight slight emphasis on "if".

>> No.45723707

>>45681809
>feather headband
Inaccurate from everything we've heard they are real individual feathers that she just sticks in her hair.

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>>45723707
Everyone knows Mumei just wears her own custom chompy headband

>> No.45723925

>>45723778
Mumei has way more than 1k chompy kc.

>> No.45724096

>>45723561
Mumei knows about owl cams because I'm subscribed to the channel, and she uses my laptop when she wants to watch other girls member streams.

>> No.45724226

Mumei’s karaokes make for nice background music while I’m going through my day, I especially like her birthday one

>> No.45724239

I am Mumei's stinkiest hootsie.

>> No.45724347

>>45723081
Very smooth, Mumei... I love you, btw!

>> No.45724397

What a sweet and silly girl she is.

>> No.45724431

>>45723081
>implying 70% of the 'mating press Bae' posts aren't written by her
>implying Mori isn't making all the 'cute shark wife' threads
>implying Wawa isn't the one drawing S.S. costume fanart for herself

>> No.45724463

>>45724226
I listen to her Halloween one from to time to cheer me up. Her cuteness singing the ghostbusters theme song brightens up my day.

>> No.45724743

>>45723683
>entire life, people treat you like shit
>be a mentally-ill loner that society abandoned and treated like trash
>suddenly, everyone's cheering for you
>chat treats her kindly because she's amazing and we want her to know it
Mumei's the most parasocial Hologirl for a reason, anon.

>> No.45724847

>>45724743
I'm trying to not let her down, even if I won't be more than a random line in chat to her.

>> No.45725154

>>45723683
it's not just about that, but also all the tweets before and overall hype about it
and she hasn't stopped retweeting idol art

>> No.45725200

>>45724743
>most parasocial
that's still probably lamy, anyways, being appreciative of your fanbase, which Mumei very much is, doesn't exactly make you "the most parasocial"

>> No.45725700

>implying that's not kanatan
i just dismiss anyone who uses the word "parasocial" as a retarded shitposter t b h

>> No.45725774

Give me the most bitcrunched Mumei you have

>> No.45725846
File: 2.02 MB, 720x720, moom[sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Fkvrpyv.mp3].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45725846

>>45725774

>> No.45725851
File: 2 KB, 411x520, ultra hd mumei.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45725851

>>45725774

>> No.45726008
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45726008

>>45725774

>> No.45726465

>>45724431
Girls cant mating press eachother

>> No.45726520

>>45725846
>>45725851
>>45726008
delicious thank you

>> No.45726623

>>45726465
maybe girls can't, but idols can.

>> No.45726771
File: 1.93 MB, 240x998, SwitchSportStrapless[sound=files.catbox.moe%2Fqu91jr.aac].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45726771

Idowls have options.

>> No.45727062

I wanna be pegged by Mumei

>> No.45727124

I think she's going to multiple doctors with mother owl until she gets cured.

>> No.45727156

>>45727124
She better does just that, until she is fully cured of her cough and Hootie AIDS

>> No.45728536

mumei cuteness levels should be illegal.

>> No.45728755

>>45728536
The law can't stop her

>> No.45728853

>The Wither group fight being resurrected, Mumei quickly dms Kiara back on stream
part of the summary of Kiara's latest stream

>> No.45729251

>>45681951
btw for Fubuki's 1st timestamp if you want to make it so that it's synced with the clip on the rentry page then use this timestamp instead.
https://youtu.be/4lkgPz3O5_Q?t=7288
>eplus start time
02:06:25.597
>spwn start time
02:06:09.962
---
Timestamp for the group song which is also synced with the clip on the rentry page.
https://youtu.be/4lkgPz3O5_Q?t=8677
>eplus start time
02:29:34.986
>spwn start time
02:29:19.384

>> No.45729757
File: 514 KB, 1280x720, JudgeMoom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45729757

>>45728755
Moom is the Law

>> No.45730129

>>45729757
Judge Moom, how many years in the isocubes

>> No.45730817

>>45730129
0.0684932

>> No.45731145

>>45730817
25 days huh

>> No.45731187

>>45731145
>600 hours

>> No.45731666
File: 851 KB, 1061x1245, 1647705830166.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45731666

>>45722987
Not now, fancuck

>> No.45732618

go back

>> No.45732722
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45732722

>> No.45732964

>>45685645
zeta has such a nice chest

>> No.45735518
File: 836 KB, 430x465, HowdyUppity[sound=files.catbox.moe%2Fkws74r.opus].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45735518

>>45706040

>> No.45735734

pettanmei when

>> No.45735733
File: 1.02 MB, 430x465, HowdyStern[sound=files.catbox.moe%2Fov91uf.opus].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45735733

>> No.45736081

>>45735734
Never, disgracing the premiums is a sacrilegious act.

>> No.45736154

>>45735734
I'd rather lolimei

>> No.45736296
File: 115 KB, 1000x1402, FMpoNRXaUAAiOcw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45736296

Lolimei is canon and cute

>> No.45736371

I want to go back in time and fix lolimei

>> No.45736700

bully lolimei

>> No.45736866

Pouring milk on lolimei's head while she's watching anime in the restroom

>> No.45737517

>last council birthday was yesterday
There is no more moom expected sightings this month...

>> No.45740290
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45740290

>>45723252

>> No.45741316
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45741316

>>45740290
YAMERO!

>> No.45742204
File: 2.72 MB, 3053x1393, 1664165272587201.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45742204

>> No.45742439

>>45742204
LEX... but at what cost

>> No.45743289
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45743289

>>45741316

>> No.45744047

>>45742204
I don't get it

>> No.45744083

>>45744047
Strip poker, moom is winning

>> No.45744676
File: 22 KB, 738x85, I tried a bunch and I can't remember which combo of local and ffmpeg prompt yielded the best result so far.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45744676

can anyone explain what >>27598402 is doing with the "local" prompts? What is he trying todo there? what's with the asterisks, the $dur, the ${trim}, the k at the end of "targ_bv="
I've been throwing my brain at it for hours and all I got is a slightly decolored webm the size of 1.1M instead of the full 3.9-ish I wish to get.
my input file is a clipped yt-dlp webm that already has the sound removed, so I'm only concerned with the two pass lines to encode a shrunken video. I figured out how to show the log for troubleshooting by removing the -v quiet command. the problem seems to manifest in how my first pass keeps telling me that the output file is empty and the bitrate is N/A.
I didn't want to use the clipping program again because my laptop struggles to play video on it, and using ffmpeg probably could yield better result from what I've read

>> No.45744780
File: 3.95 MB, 1920x1080, Moomcute.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45744780

Moom

>> No.45744847

>>45744676
Sorry don't know ffmpeg, I use davinci resolve, handbreak and webmforetards

>> No.45744961

>>45744780
My idowl daughter on stage

>> No.45745169
File: 153 KB, 1181x903, 1654317757924.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45745169

>>45744780
I hope she gets to do a birthday live or at least perform another song with it later with that outfit. Mika did a good job

>> No.45745482
File: 1.73 MB, 100x100, THE GOOD OLE MOUNTAIN DEW[sound=files.catbox.moe%2F4rvvic.mp3].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45745482

>>45744676
If the original commenter doesn't appear in a few hours I'll attempt to help you out. For now though, start with hard-coding the values until you get it working instead of using the variables.

>> No.45745507

I am very proud of my cute idowlshi and I want to see her nipples.

>> No.45745848

https://youtu.be/TIa2gblNHWY?t=6859

>> No.45745908

>>45745848
>you can manually redeem characters
What the fuck

>> No.45746903
File: 2.22 MB, 2048x1536, 1668726683056744.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45746903

>>45743289
it's all over...

>> No.45747053

Feeling kinda moomish tonight

>> No.45747089

Just now watching the council call-in for Kronii's bday
What in the scuff

>> No.45747257
File: 363 KB, 1080x910, Mubae.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45747257

Aww she misses her

>> No.45747279
File: 385 KB, 500x500, 1661155123387726.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45747279

>>45747257
we are...

>> No.45747356

>>45747089
The moom phone call experience

>> No.45747394

>>45745908
DO NOT

>> No.45747753
File: 593 KB, 135x135, 1662655605250.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45747753

>>45744847
>>45745482
thank you guys
any comment is appreciated.

seems like it breaks when I tell it to do passes. without the -pass 1 option, it worked

>> No.45747807

Do you think Mumei thought about us today?

>> No.45747838
File: 1.42 MB, 450x350, MumeiEveryMinuteThinkingAboutHololive[sound=files.catbox.moe%2F5u4x9y.mp3].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45747838

>>45747807

>> No.45747837

>>45747257
She does, this is the second time she retweeted that video today.

>> No.45747887
File: 580 KB, 1080x1080, 1657687854341.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45747887

>>45747838
I am on her brain... I think I can squeeze in between the wrinkles. I think... I'll take a rest....

>> No.45748014
File: 1.73 MB, 540x304, Rowlet_donation.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45748014

Take care, /who/.

>> No.45748132

>>45748014
Rowlet isn't.

>> No.45748743
File: 835 KB, 1000x900, 1661992983708352.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45748743

>> No.45748918

>>45748743
is that Mumei as A FUCKING MONKEY?

>> No.45749135
File: 1 KB, 540x304, cogitoergosum.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45749135

>>45748132
What's that suppo-

>> No.45749151

>>45748918
QUICK
HIDE HER FROM PEKORA

>> No.45749182

>>45747257
>>45747837
She talks about it here
https://youtu.be/rd1UPPxMLhM?t=7196

>> No.45749218
File: 1.47 MB, 640x360, Mumeei[sound=files.catbox.moe%2Fmabz24.mp3].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45749218

>>45749182

>> No.45749328

>>45749182
She misses her wife...

>> No.45749883
File: 1.06 MB, 1000x1429, 1657604512893.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45749883

>>45749328
I miss my sisterwife...

>> No.45749956

im moomin

>> No.45750019
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45750019

I only permit Ame to take Mumei on a real proper date.

>> No.45750092

https://streamable.com/9x98ud

>> No.45750181

>>45750092
owl noises... home...

>> No.45750409
File: 1.80 MB, 498x373, rowletcute.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45750409

>>45748014

>> No.45750451
File: 34 KB, 321x182, afuckingmoomkey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45750451

>>45748918

>> No.45750477

>>45750451
maximum kek

>> No.45751881
File: 792 KB, 850x850, @vinca_99_1589996261520060421.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45751881

>> No.45752278

Hi, I miss Moom.

>> No.45752357

>>45752278
Me too, Bae. Me too

>> No.45752595

Awesome life hack: Miss Moom? Just stop missing her lol

>> No.45752669
File: 304 KB, 2000x1300, 104401342_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45752669

Moom

>> No.45752906
File: 91 KB, 300x300, I miss (You)[sound=files.catbox.moe%2F9u54sx.mp3].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45752906

>> No.45753799
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45753799

>> No.45753882
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45753882

>>45753799
Tatta futari...

>> No.45755033
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45755033

>> No.45755820

>>45744780
Tried to do that segment at full resolution but was not too happy with the results. Same issue this webm got, blurry, block-y, not well defined transitions and let's not even get started on the pixelvomit the animated board produces. Absolutely not saying you didn't try but there is just too much going on in that scene to produce a clean looking result.

>> No.45755969

>>45755820
I tried to downscale it to 720p but it was going over the file limit

>> No.45756065

>>45755969
Hu, how did that happen? Neither the duration nor the target bitrate should have changed by scaling.

>> No.45756224

>>45756065
don't know. I'll try something different

>> No.45756367

>>45756224
What did you end up using? I'm kinda curious as to why it went over the size limit.

>> No.45756396

>>45756367
webmconverter

>> No.45756832

>>45756396
Alright, afraid I can't help with that. Just using plain ffmpeg and can't even really tell what thirdparty programs try to do. Sourcecode diving, if at all possible, is really not worth it.

>> No.45756906

>>45756832
They're gui versions of ffmpeg basically, I'm too retarded to use command lines

>> No.45757125

>>45756832
This was the source if you want to mess with it
https://files.catbox.moe/kzvb9l.mp4

>> No.45757241

>>45756906
>gui
disgosting.

>> No.45757440

>>45757125
I got the vod and did try messing with it before, that's why I gave up trying to do it on full resolution, just didn't quite look good enough to me. VMAF were somewhere in the low 70s/high60s, so even objectively really not good.

>> No.45757677

She never fixed the hair clip...

>> No.45758644

>>45757677
she forgor lol

>> No.45758840

>>45758644
I'm going to drain the marrow in your bones, shape it into a ball, freeze it, and then blast it at your head at 150 mph.

>> No.45758894
File: 3.37 MB, 3520x720, moom screens.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45758894

Moomers is always watching me :D

>> No.45759012
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45759012

>>45758894
>Dark Elf

>> No.45759104
File: 130 KB, 676x1000, 116110298_156655602663756_3513163963721160440_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45759104

>>45759012
Problem?

>> No.45759689

I really like how She sang Stellar Stellar on the -I'm in a mood karaoke-
she Sounds as if she is getting Bullied by the song itself from how hard it is

>> No.45760225
File: 54 KB, 158x198, Stellar Stellar (forma de nervous moom)[sound=files.catbox.moe%2Fvwz03w.m4a].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45760225

>>45759689
i want to give hugs and ice cream to nervous moom

>> No.45761736
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45761736

>> No.45761924

>>45744676
>>27598402
Not the Anon who wrote this but I'll try to explain what is happening here. It seems to be a part of a script, should be bash but not 100% on that. It's also as the date suggest and older script, staying withing the 3mb limit and using vp8 instead of the now available limit of 4mb and use of vp9 - also; don't recode the audio if you can help it, it's offering no benefit

>local target_bitrate=$((24000/$dur))
>local targ_bv=${target_bitrate%.*}k
The local is setting a value to a local variable i.e. local to the script or function in the script - not useable outside of that.
The 24000 can be broken down into 3 * 8 * 1000; 3 - kilo - byte. Slap another k for kilo at the end of it to turn kilo into mega and you got the final bitrate target.
It should >technically be 1024 not 1000 but encoding/muxing overhead is a thing and it's better to stick to a little too small rather than a little too large and not being able to use the WebM.
This is the part where the ffmpeg owltism starts. If switches occur a second time I'll ignore and skip over them.
Do also refer to the Documentation https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html

>ffmpeg -v quiet -stats -hide_banner -y -i streamclip* -vn -c:a libopus -b:a 168000 -ss ${trim} -t $dur output.ogg
'-v quiet -stats -hide_banner' Will hide all ffmpeg output but keep the encoding progress visible. Personally I'd reccomend 'fatal' over quiet in case something does go horribly wrong.
'-y' Global toggle to override the output file instead of asking what to do with it.
'-i streamclip*' Input source, the * will match anything starting with 'streamclip'. Stuffs not shared by that Anon.
'-vn' Ignore the Videostream
'-c:a libopus -b:a 168000' Encode Audio as 168kbs opus. If you have access to Stream/Vod Audio use that instead WITHOUT encoding it into something else.
'-ss ${trim} -t $dur' Start of the Stream Segment and Duration respectively. It's an offset from the start, starting at 0 will not need the -ss 0. trim and dur are variables defined outside the shared script and should not need additional explanation.

>ffmpeg -v quiet -hide_banner -y -i streamclip* -an -c:v libvpx -deadline good -cpu-used -0 -threads 4 -ss ${trim} -t $dur -b:v ${targ_bv} -pass 1 output.webm
-c:v libvpx -deadline good -cpu-used -0 -threads 4 -b:v ${targ_bv} -pass 1
>ffmpeg -hide_banner -y -i streamclip* -an -c:v libvpx -deadline good -cpu-used -0 -threads 4 -ss ${trim} -t $dur -b:v ${targ_bv} -pass 2 output.webm
'-an' Same as -vn earlier, just disregarding the Audio this time.
Video encode time. Encode Video using libvpx(WebM), use all available cpus, 4 threads using the bitrate calculated earlier as a first pass followed by a second pass using the information generated by the 1st pass
For VP9 this could look like this '-c:v libvpx-vp9 -row-mt 1 -threads 0 -deadline best -pix_fmt yuv420p10le -crf 20 -b:v ${targ_bv} -pass'... instead. Using multithreaded row encoding, a higher quality preset(it's slower), 10bit pixel format(will break hardware encoding on some old phones etc.) and use Constrained Quality mode over Average Bitrate used here.
First pass output being empty is normal; output into a video file can forgone altogether with -f null /dev/null(unix) or -f null NUL(windows) instead of output.webm - but keeping it in will make sure it works on either and just overwrite the file later.
More details about the exact details can be found at https://www.webmproject.org for both VP8 and VP9.

For attached picrel using 4mb (4*8*1000/7.5) ~4266. Let's go with 4250 here.
ffmpeg -i GuraEliteHoplite.webm -an -c:v libvpx-vp9 -row-mt 1 -threads 0 -deadline best -pix_fmt yuv420p10le -crf 20 -b:v 4250k -pass 1 output.webm
ffmpeg -i GuraEliteHoplite.webm -an -c:v libvpx-vp9 -row-mt 1 -threads 0 -deadline best -pix_fmt yuv420p10le -crf 20 -b:v 4250k -pass 2 output.webm
If that is for a non-cropped 1080p source the results should still be okay-ish unless it's something like >>45744780 or HoloCure etc that will just murderfuck the bitrate anyway.

>> No.45762069
File: 110 KB, 951x1270, 1661684692160711.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45762069

/who/'s video autism is a sight to behold.

>> No.45762398

>>45762069
Cutest owltism on all of /vt/

>> No.45762524
File: 398 KB, 1160x2048, 1650546250230.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45762524

>> No.45763568

I went a little nuts with this moom so enjoy.
https://files.catbox.moe/iuoa31.png

>> No.45763705

>>45763568
looks like one of those japanese youkai drawings, neat stuffs

>> No.45763731

>>45763568
kawaii

>> No.45763944 [SPOILER] 
File: 180 KB, 768x1024, 1678866943625.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45763944

>>45763568
Cute!

>> No.45764004

>>45763568
moomvore

>> No.45764543
File: 2.23 MB, 2000x1250, 1678341744511627.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45764543

Moom

>> No.45764598

>>45757677
She also selected "7" so the link expired after 7 days. For the other wallpapers she selected "100" so they expired after 100 days.

>> No.45764670

>>45764598
Shouldn't really be over 30 anyway.

>> No.45764695

>>45764598
Is the default 7 days? This silly billy... still glad she tried to draw something for us though.

>> No.45764889

>>45764695
>blush
>hearts
>looking directly at the viewer
>valentines day 'outfit'
I don't even mind the missing hairclip that much

>> No.45765149
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45765149

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/106393615

>> No.45765534

>>45765149
sniffing the moomtummy

>> No.45765696
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45765696

>>45765149
Fes week really gave us a lot of good tummies

>> No.45765739

>>45765696
It gave us Idowlbutt too

>> No.45765754
File: 2.52 MB, 1920x1080, 1679406966726952.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45765754

>>45757241
Ok but its idiotproof (designed for me)

>> No.45766492

>>45761924
NTA but this is a very nice post that I have now bookmarked. Thanks!

>> No.45766670

>>45759689
I like that one a lot too. I isolated it the other day if you're interested. most of the panik noises stayed in
https://litter.catbox.moe/16uwwk.flac

>> No.45766768

>>45766670
>spoiler
Those are a feature.

>> No.45766810
File: 2.30 MB, 2480x3508, @antsplorer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45766810

>> No.45767566

>>45763568
post to twitter, she'd love it.

>> No.45767623 [SPOILER] 
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45767623

don't open, heresy inside

>> No.45767757
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45767757

>> No.45768623
File: 1.41 MB, 1389x1964, 75cd0454e6e427fe289d00e43b26b6da.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
45768623

Good morning hoomans and hooties!

Luv Moom!

>> No.45768894

Mumei is dying...

>> No.45769068 [SPOILER] 

>>45768894
proof?

>> No.45769133

https://youtu.be/80Qcs_2zVhA?t=23224
>TL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdFjjxaWJ_Q

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>>45769068

>> No.45769345

>>45769322
>I'm dead, you see
kek

>> No.45769560

At least she's not Chammers-dead...

>> No.45769645

Can't wait for semi-capable AI to end clipshits existence

>> No.45769676

>>45769322
kek

>>45769560
bruh

>> No.45769717

>>45769645
AI will be used for clipniggery, it will automatically clip the stream sections that had the most chat messages and deduce the start and end of the relevant part from the stream transcripts.

>> No.45769784

>>45769717
still good enough to cut out the shitters creating that junk

>> No.45769901

https://youtu.be/ln4lTMBQa5g?t=14275

>> No.45770344

>>45769901
My terminally online owlshi...

>> No.45770949

>>45769901
>bored out of her mind
>can't stream
i can save her...

>> No.45770982 [SPOILER] 

>>45770949
she should be doing her nihongo reps (you too)

>> No.45771161

>>45769784
It will just make their job easier

>> No.45771231

>>45769784
>>45771161
just report to cover

>> No.45772480

moomin' on moom moomers

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>>45772480
what did anon mean by this

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>> No.45773568 [SPOILER] 

>page 10

>> No.45773784

>>45773568
moom is finished

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>> No.45773891 [SPOILER] 

umm akshually, we're dying every second

>> No.45774250

>>45773891
slowly burning to death, feels good man

>> No.45774785

>>45774736
Jump in anytime

>> No.45775032
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>>45761924
I did notice that re-typing local after closing a prompt removes the variables I've set earlier.
I did figure out 24000 sounds like something I should divide by x(2^10.2^3) , but I was confused as it leaves a value nowhere near the max file limit (it's been through so much division so I thought I must be wrong somewhere while dividing it by a serie of 2s)
Thanks for the tip about not encoding the audio and about how asterisks work. For this instance I skipped the audio portion because I meant to use meme audio.
I still used the vp8 and legacy options though, except for changing libvpx to libvpx-vp9. I'll try using the vp9 lines you sent for next time. I used the ffmpeg wiki quite extensively to figure out each prompt after posting here. Now I have a bunch of edited bookmarks so I can find guides without the tedium of syntax omitting search engines. Ah... constraint quality mode as opposed to AVB... I was still confused about how bytes are calculated. Is it that 1MB=2^10KB or 2^3KB (because Kilo to Mega rises by 3 decimal places)? Is 1 byte = 10 bits? I'll refer to your equations first for now.
I initially always stopped the process whenever the bitrate says 0x. But at the end when I start being more confident in the things I'm doing, I just let it process both passes even if the first output is said to be empty.
I was clipping a hologra episode and turns out the raw resolution was 1440p which is too big for /vt/. So in the end it didn't even matter and I just learned to use -vf scale -1:720 which lowered my filesize to 1.5M lol. Also, the 7.5 sec duration was from a wrong cut version that's just over a second longer than what i intended.
I do wonder what happens if I try to do noisy clips too. Maybe it would be better if I learn how to crop out their avatar then.
Thank you very much for explaining it all. I'm trying to learn about video creating with the limited hardware I have so I hope this whole ordeal will contribute to my knowledge
And to top it off let's add "compress" and "webm" in this post so people can easily search this through the archives like how I found that hlgg post

now let's see if anyone gets how I connected the reference with the hologura clip (ggg didn't get it)

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>>45775032
PROSTAGMA?

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>>45775063
Uhhh... close enough

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