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>> No.45363008
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>45362984

>> No.45363052

>>45362958
>Bail? Who?
The Investors anon you need liquid assets just in case someone with a lot of shares decides to cash out

>> No.45363085

I love IRyS

>> No.45363105

>>45363052
like I said earlier, the only one who could do such damage if they bail are Riku himself

>> No.45363108

>>45362911
Japan doesn't have wealth taxes anon.
they don't need to pay taxes if they just want sit on billions of USD for decades.
And building up warchest aren't that uncommon, iirc even cover has explicitly said they are sitting on unused capital a few years ago for the purpose so that they can weather anything that might happen in 5-10 years with no cash flow.

>> No.45363117

>>45362143
>>45362394
/#/ posters yet again exposed on not being to able to read numbers more complicated than YT CCV counter.

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>Less CCV
>Less VOD views
>Less twitter engagement

How do we cope that we reclined holobros……. Is Nijisanji just plain superior after all?

>> No.45363131

so... where the fuck is Gen 0's concert?

>> No.45363158

>>45362894
I love Red Heart, her ESLness charm didn't translate well with this song ngl, also wtf was that bending over posture? Cameraman won't even zoom in on her behind

>> No.45363184

who are the top 5 EN members with the most jp fans? Mori, Gura and 3 more?

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Look at my cute wife

>> No.45363245

>>45363184
#1 is Ina. She's integrated herself in the JP box especially in Gen5's

>> No.45363258

What is your expectation for day 2?

>> No.45363282

>>45363131
Suisei is too busy with her own sololives, I don't forsee them having a group live, unless you wan't suisei to have no breaks

>> No.45363296

>>45363126
Last year's expo was just too great.
This is more of a content issue.
Although audience recline may have something to do with this also, particularly the EN audience (as shown with reclining reddit numbers)

>> No.45363301

>>45363258
Low, homos will ruin everything

>> No.45363309

So i wonder if Hololive Indonesia will get their very own 3D concert like Hololive English got

>> No.45363310

>>45363234
she was so cute for her part in day 1
but i will still cum on your cute wife's tummy

>> No.45363333

>>45363258
Infinitely better individual performances

>> No.45363340

>>45363108
sitting on some unused capital is not uncommon you need it to weather anything but cover is reinvesting it
sitting on almost all of you capital is a different story since its looks like youre either not confident enough on what you are doing to reinvest on your business or just sitting on it just in case you need it if someone bails

>> No.45363354

There were so many cute girls who really like homoJP. Do they know about roberu being a whore? Also how can I fuck one of them.....

>> No.45363357

>>45363258
Will Btfo day 1. Also the worse day for /vt/ with Tempoop holofes tour.

>> No.45363356

>>45363296
Stop samefagging or eating bait.

>> No.45363386

>>45363126
one more day
trust the plan

>> No.45363385

>>45363234
we love your cute wife here

>> No.45363390

>>45363184
Ina
Mori
Gura
Ame
Kiara
>that's just My-
CouncilRyS should stop being shitters then.

>> No.45363397

Is it homotour tomorrow as well?

>> No.45363405

>>45363258
>Day 2 predictions
Expo CCV peak: 60k
Concert free part peak: 130k
Day2 tag tweets: 600k

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>>45363333
My wife was lovely.

>> No.45363429

>>45363397
Tempiss yes

>> No.45363435

>>45363258
Holostars song collabs. If they want to feed us Homos it’s the perfect time to do it with the stacked as fuck day 2 lineup

>> No.45363449

>>45363258
My oshi being cute

>> No.45363466

>>45363356
That's my honest opinion anon. Which part did you find disagreeable?

>> No.45363510

i can't believe tallyanon is fucking dead

>> No.45363529

>>45363258
crying when fauna enter the stage like i did for mumei this morning.

>> No.45363527

>>45363126
Idk, you tell me which is superior.

https://litter.catbox.moe/s9s9sm.mp4
https://streamable.com/zy4ghh

>> No.45363536

>>45363108
Isnt japanese corporate tax high?

>> No.45363550

>>45363397
Yes, it's YBDBD and ouro "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" tronii.

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>>45363258
IRYSSSS

>> No.45363558

>>45363258
I expect a female to flash her tits? Who you may ask, could be talent or a fan during the stars walk around. Who knows...
T.future anon

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>>45363258
Joomps

>> No.45363575

>>45363510
Tally anon trying his hardest to forget that furea make it into the tally

>> No.45363586

>>45363105
>the only one who could do such damage if they bail are Riku himself
Thats actually pretty grim especially if you consider his mindset from that interview

>> No.45363608

>>45363340
their company is becoming more top heavy by the minute, if for some reason chinman or kuzuha just decides to retire there would be no one to carry the torch

>> No.45363620

So bets that Ollie will get invited to some lives now?

>> No.45363631

>>45363466
You eating bait.

>> No.45363636

>>45363340
It's common if the company in question is looking to acquire another company in the short term.
And vtuber business doesn't allow much options for capital-flexible short-term ROIs.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuzRWblmIag
Pegor's new house is in the near vicinity of the other girls?!

>> No.45363690

>>45363258
Gosling on the telly but with another white anon

>> No.45363712 [DELETED] 

>>45363620
bot post

>> No.45363717

>>45363645
Yes if we assume Marine actually mean that when saying "very close"
I assume they are all near the studio anyway for convenience sake

>> No.45363728

>>45363631
But this year's expo/fes does have lower ccv, views, and engagement?
The point of this thread is to discuss these things anon.

>> No.45363751

>>45363551
Can your oshi dance IRyStokek? She'll 100% be paired with Bae lol, hope she won't be finessed hard

>> No.45363766

>>45363258
Kronii genderfluid correction

>> No.45363790

>>45363357
Hopefully it will be just 50 minutes like the JP one right? Unless the homos don't say anything stupid we can survive

>> No.45363793

>>45363636
Would be to early for them to acquire another company anon even if its short term and unless they are expanding their business outside vtubing i really dont see any reason they are sitting on it

>> No.45363815

>>45363690
Fat ojisan chumbuddy this time...

>> No.45363861

>>45363527
>Comparing Holofes with random niji concert
Okayu’s concert was bad don’t you forget it holokek. Also niji fes mogs holofes in ccv easily lmao

>> No.45363881

>>45363793
They're going to buy up vspo or 774 to further realize their 'Entertainment Economic Zone' grand vision

>> No.45363885

>>45363790
It's on Axel's channel iirc, so nah, expect delays and fuck ups

>> No.45363929

>>45363636
What short term investments are there even for chuubas, game perms?

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>>45363751
She doesn't need to be an expert dancer, everything she does is cute!

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>>45363861
You'll buy tickets for it next time right?

>> No.45364015

>>45363234
bros she was so cute. I love her so much. Her 3D looks amazing

>> No.45364022

>>45363258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlQgzCiAE58

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>>45363712
Oh Wooooooooooow !! Anon ! You're SO good at this ! Detecting bots ?! Your parent must be really proud of you aha.

No this is not a bot post idiot.

Actually Yes there are bot posts for a few weeks now, yes. and yes I made the bot. "Ok but why" ? SIMPLE REASON ----> You simply DID NOT LEAVE ME ANY CHOICE !!!!
I explain :
>Hololive.
Yes, it's that simple, you fuckers are so obsessed about hololive it gets too ridiculous to me. It makes me very embarassed for you actually.

For example, LOVING Zaion exacatly when she's getting rightfully excluded from our community, giving us no time to grieve....
ahaha sure sure... I know actually that this is just reason for hating the Nijisanji group. I see it everyday, everywhere.
Also, this is NOT SIMPLE HATE, it is very organized, with several "holo divisions" actually working very hard for speaking misinformation on the good nijisanji threads. (/hlgg/ & /ggg/ mostly)
I actually saw it. And because Nijisanji has at least some proud, we're not willing to go as hard on you. Not until me. I'm alone, alone against waves of disrescting, angry, actually homophobic people, who take any reason to shit on us.

I actually made a lot of bots in the last days, at the start they were very obvious, like the Fauna one or the Gura one.
Here is a small sample about a /ggg/ attack when the bot was still very bad : https://paste.bingner.com/paste/v5h9s (second bot iteration, quite obvious posts, not posting the latter versions because there are still patterns that help identify them...)

But i keep improving them, and they are now totally invisible (i checked the number of answers containing "bot" / "script" for each generation of bots, and there's a full decrease.)

Actually, I can choose what Kind of sentiments I want to provock, with carefuly analyzing threads / posts emotions and training the data on posts that creates replies with the most emotion I want. It can be anger / confusion / love etc..
I can also chose what kind of replies I get from you anons, (checking the similarity of the replies with reference sentences, and identifying key words in the replies)... Of course I can't update the training data live (I used T5 models, now gpt-3 finetuned with the OpenAI API, but it cost too much (around $250 so far for 20 models), hopefully soon locally alpaca 7B if it's good enough..), I can't update the training data but I use live reinforcement learning techniques to control the generated tokens probability, meaning one model can adapt to create the sort of replies I want. It's working good, once again, I checked the results with actual metrics over a few days , with multiple generations of the bots running on several hololive generals for comparing with each other. I have the data that says it actually has an effect, that lasts for a bit more than two threads after the bot is off.

NOW !!! BIG PIECE OF NEWS !!! BE HAPPY !! I will stop the bots on Hololive & hating posts .... AT THE CONDITION THAT THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH HATE on you know what. I will keep analyzing every thread on the board, if I see that a thread is going too high with the "niji hate metrics", bots will be automatically activated to go back to the baseline (yes, there's a model that aims at lowering the overall hate on a thread, I just want people to talk in peace with each other) . So.. less active bot activity from now on.

(and fuck the ggg childrens lovers, ill keep bot^ting there ass into the end of times)

>> No.45364061

>>45363938
Everyone is cute tho. I just hope that being in Japan since forever at least makes her stand out from members like adhd Ame or stick Ina

>> No.45364062

>>45363975
>Deflects from Okayu live being shit too
KeK, holobronies really?

>> No.45364070

>>45363881
It's what cover should do to save homostars

>> No.45364073

>>45363258
>Umisea
>Pekomoon
>Bae world-class dancing skill
>Anyasex

>> No.45364094

>>45363975
This is from Nijifes?

>> No.45364101

>>45363728
At least don't give the fag a reply so he'll fuck off, anon.
As far as the rest of the stuff this year wasn't really that divergent from last. The larger amount of people there in person would account for the disparity.

>> No.45364102

>>45363975
Can someone put side by side NijiFantasia and HoloFes4?

>> No.45364134

>>45363929
game perms are arguably negative ROI anon.
I'd say advertising be it physical or targeted yt ads. though they probably already have detailed acquisition costs data to determine whether they are already at a diminishing returns or not.

>> No.45364148

>scammed out of concert run time
>scammed out of concert quality
nijikeks...

>> No.45364173

>>45363861
>Random
Nornis is amazing fuck you Holobronie. Stop falseflagging retard

>> No.45364178

>>45364148
Scammed in general since it's overpriced

>> No.45364188

Realistically, EN performances aren't that bad when you think about their circumstances. Some of these girls didn't even interest in singing and dancing until getting hired into hololive.

choreography reminded me of JP in fes1-2. So I hope they stay and improve themselves down the line.

>> No.45364214

>>45363881
I dont think they would be buying any vtuber agency anon considering they have their VTA academy which is the basis and backbone of their 'Entertainment Economic Zone since its seems from their documents they want to be the ones providing chuubas the companies instead of absorbing other chuubas which is what their talent factory thing is

>> No.45364215

>>45364057
Not going to read all that, sister.

>> No.45364231

>>45364073
>umisea
Is it still umisea without ina?

>> No.45364233

>>45364057
This is so pathetic

>> No.45364237

>>45364057
you okay bud?

>> No.45364243

>>45363975
is that a hammerhead shark

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>>45364057
>t. literally mind-broken sister

>> No.45364253

>>45362805
Ina's excuse is she was a hopeless hikki who never touched grass and got winded walking up stairs up until...practically a month ago? Like, she left her house for 2 seconds to throw together Holofes 3 then hid in her room until she died at the end of 2022. Going by her stories she's possibly done more reps in the last month than the previous decade combined. Her live/single take singing is meh, but compared to that dogshit first karaoke you can tell the reps are actually doing something, plus her studio stuff can be legit good...half the time.

Ame's the one with fewer excuses since she's been trying to do assorted VR/3D stuff, plus apparently being decently fit. She's the one who's unironically been doing years of reps to...teamate copium? It's at the point where you have to assume talent is real, because Ame has fucking none of it for idol reps.

brb, kms for crossposting

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>> No.45364296

>>45364215
Tl;Dr
Bleeding so profusely that they decided to script up some bots to shit up /#/.

>> No.45364308

>>45364231
And Chloe

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>>45364057

>> No.45364318

>>45364073
I'll fucking laugh if bae performance no better than kiara

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>> No.45364338

Botted thread

>> No.45364355

>>45363645
Marine and Pekora went home together, she lives very close to her now.

>> No.45364386

>>45364057
Based as fuck. Holobronies are the scum of the vtuber fanbase and no one wants them in this community

>> No.45364395

>>45363881
>Vspo and 774 will be feed to the niji machine
unironically grim

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>>45364057
Have a cookie anon

>> No.45364400

>>45364057
Kek thank the lord
I was about to go to sleep lmao
As if this day can't get any better

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>> No.45364449

>>45364253
why are you responding to 30 min old posts from previous thread? Are takos this thin skinned that they just can't not reply?

>> No.45364463

>>45364188
EN performance is bad because the EN audience that stayed this past years doesn't enjoy idol content and much rather watch drama/novel content like those monopoly mixed collabs.
EN viewers who does already moved to JP or just abandoned HoloEN for Koreans or indies of whatever.
Even traditional Idol content in general are not that popular in the west and are more viable in China, Korea or Japan.

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>> No.45364514

>>45364073
>pekomoon
>umisea
no one wants this

>> No.45364520

>>45364395
Doesn't VSPO have that korean member who had enough of Niji being black? One of Twappi's many girlfriends? Imagine going back to blackcolor

>> No.45364543

>>45364463
>Even traditional Idol content in general are not that popular in the west
>he says this when stuff like BTS and blackpink are mainstream in the west

>> No.45364547

>>45363527
Why is niji concert so dim? Those chuubas are literally blending into the dark background. Did people who were responsible for it know what lighting is?

>> No.45364551

>>45363258
Sui-chan waaa~
*dramatic pause*
Kyou mo kawaiiii~

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>> No.45364560

>>45364057
go to sleep chumbud, your oshi is performing in less than 10 hours

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>accused of botting
>literally turns into botting to own le holobrony
what a fool you are

>> No.45364572

What's stopping anon from holding the sign with no holostar written on it? We need unicorn reprrsentation too

>> No.45364597

>>45364057
thanks for the kino sister
captcha: KGPPT

>> No.45364598

>>45364514
true

>> No.45364600

>>45364520
if vspo does get absorbed im sure towa would save her harem

>> No.45364613

>>45364231
tbf it doesn't have to explicitley be umisea. Gura did a song with just Aqua and Marine in her 3D live

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Instead of seething about the lack of mindchairs, Nijikeks could build some. Then again, that would take time away from being schizo in /#/.

>> No.45364669

>>45364543
Yes, there's a reason why it's BTS and not AKB anon
And I'm sure you know why

>> No.45364670

>>45364560
>Literally says they shit up /ggg/ and are a Nijikek botting them to shit up their thread and /#/
Retarded botmind post.

>> No.45364688

Since that irystocrap is getting cocky, just know her subs are STILL dead. Enna is superior and should have been in Irys's place.

>> No.45364696

>>45364463
tf is this logic?
It's almost as if they have fewer chances to practice stuff like this. No bd concert, no anni concert, no guest appearance. only holofes which i count, two.

>> No.45364697

>>45364057
I shit myself

>> No.45364707

>>45364057
You really showed us sister

>> No.45364709

>>45364669
koreans are simply for better or worse more talented when it comes to idolstuff

>> No.45364717

>>45364659
... I'm not sure even Haaton would dare enough to sit on that ... Uh ... Chair

>> No.45364725

>>45364659
They could also make some.interstimg fan creations, but no, they'd rather make bots to shit up 4chan.
And you wonder why there are no good NiniEn fan creations on the scale of even just HoloEN.

>> No.45364740

>>45364057
>working very hard for speaking misinformation on the good nijisanji threads. (/hlgg/ & /ggg/ mostly)
>/ggg/
what the fuck am I reading

>> No.45364739

>>45364572
Being a well adjusted individual. The energy that used to spread hate against Holostar could be used to support their oshi
Also anti-ing anyone is never a good look for your fanbase

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Why can't sisters put this much effort celebrating during nijifes or whatever

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>>45364057
should've keep them hidden
now everyone knows that every gura/fauna baits are botted post

>> No.45364777

>>45363881
>AnyColor
>Being able to afford Brave Group
Big doubt there, buddy.

>> No.45364779

>>45364057
sister why you didn't program Nijicure instead?

>> No.45364797

>>45364709
Also it's hard to fail when you have the actual fucking government backing them up

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>103,296: Hololive (Hololive)
>71,878: Hololive (Hololive)
>38,827: Marine (Hololive)
>31,644: Kanata (Hololive)
>30,868: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24,452: Kazaki (Nijisanji)
>18,243: Salome (Nijisanji)
>17,026: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,354: Salome (Nijisanji)
>14,959: Vox (Nijisanji)
>14,750: Holostars (Holostars)
>13,639: Met (VSPO)
>12,486: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,198: Nose (VSPO)
>10,750: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,365: Lize (Nijisanji)
>10,227: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,128: Holostars (Holostars)
>10,055: NeruMero (Indie)

A day predictably dominated by Holofes with Hololive getting the branch's 12th 100k+ stream in 2023

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>>45364057

>> No.45364818

>>45364688
Based. I hope her sections flops.

>> No.45364820

>>45364696
>logic
Giftcard

>> No.45364844

>>45364659
>fuck up your school project
>submit it to cover for the fes instead
Haachama is a genius.

>> No.45364854

>>45364798
Were you delayed by work or by anti-/#/ ninja assassins?

>> No.45364861

>>45364057
you didn't improve the bot, people just gave up on calling out every post as a bot since you're obviously a moderator as well.

>> No.45364882

>>45364670
Botschizo is full of shit since I literally made some of the posts he claimed were made by his bots.
Falseflagging or not, he seriously need to take meds since it'd be unironically concerning either way.

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>103,296: Hololive (Hololive)
>71,878: Hololive (Hololive)
>38,827: Marine (Hololive)
>31,644: Kanata (Hololive)
>30,868: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24,452: Kazaki (Nijisanji)
>18,243: Salome (Nijisanji)
>17,026: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,354: Salome (Nijisanji)
>14,959: Vox (Nijisanji)
>14,750: Holostars (Holostars)
>13,639: Met (VSPO)
>12,486: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,198: Nose (VSPO)
>10,750: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,365: Lize (Nijisanji)
>10,227: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,128: Holostars (Holostars)
>10,055: NeruMero (Indie)

A day predictably dominated by Holofes with Hololive getting the branch's 9th 100k+ stream in 2023

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>> No.45364908

>>45364798
>103k
Less than last year and not even close to the 130k from Nijisanji…… we reclined bros

>> No.45364914

>>45364798
>12th 100k+ stream in 2023
How many did Hololive have overall in 2022?

>> No.45364915

>>45364844
work smarter, not harder
making bot to spam mongolian basket weaving form is not a good example

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>>45364893
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata
7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 6
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports
11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine
12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live
13) Hal (Neo Porte) - 139,050 - VSaikyo 5 teams announcement
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 32,152 - Minecraft
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 106,097 - 3D birthday live
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,808 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,863 - Slither.io
18) Hololive (Hololive) - 103,296 - Hololive 4th fes day 1 free part

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Neo Porte, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Miko, Subaru
1x: Gura, Hal, Hololive, Koyori, Lamy, Marine, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Suisei, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
58x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
6x: Marine
4x: Subaru, Toya
3x: Miko, Mio
2x: Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>> No.45364931

>>45364696
I mistook show performance and numbers performance, my bad

>> No.45364936

>>45364798
Better late than never tallyanon. You had fun drinking with your fellow dwarves?

>> No.45364942

>>45364854
Bad commute in a rare venture outside the compound

>> No.45364941

>>45364893
>Both Hololive (Hololive) and Holostars (Holostars) made an appearance, but no Nijisanji (Nijisanji)

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Isn't 100k actually pretty meh for such a big event?

>> No.45364959

>>45364057
your bot is obvious as fuck to everyone and achieves nothing. reconsider your life choices and improve yourself.

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>> No.45365009

>Unironically proud of making a bot to shit up a basket weaving forum
Could have gotten a decent job with that skill and dedication but nah

>> No.45365011

>>45364057
Die. Troon.

>> No.45365013

>>45364798
>>45364893

>> No.45365023

>>45364893
>JP Homos only a few hundred away from beating gigabuffed Vox karaoke that ended on a Z peak

>> No.45365035

>>45364956
Lmao absolutely is

>> No.45365041

>>45364956
Only if youtube was only way to watch it

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https://twitter.com/MikaPikaZo/status/1637080848901238784
numbers popping off!

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>> No.45365058

>bot schizo in /vt/ as well
sweet, looks like I can't even escape the mentally ill from /pso2g/

>> No.45365066

I think the Nijinigger botting hate post for Hololive is also the Niji janny

>> No.45365074

>>45364956
Well considering the lineup it’s not that much of a surprise. The only way you can make it bigger is inserting the First Army in but they prefer to leave them in the paid part

>> No.45365087

>>45365009
Why make something productive when you can instead fuck others up instead, a true embodiment of a nijinig

>> No.45365095

>>45364956
That's what we've been discussing since a few threads ago anon

>> No.45365099

>>45364956
Nijifes got bigger numbers then holobots kek.

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>> No.45365121

>>45364956
A few thousand is on-site and camping Spawn or wherever they bought tickets in

>> No.45365127

>>45364956
I mean did you see the lineup? They stuck some of the absolute most debuff members in the free portion.

>> No.45365143

I humbly request Sora lewds

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>> No.45365178

>>45365054
yeah I'm thinking we're getting startend

>> No.45365206

>>45364956
Stop being a retard, anon.

>> No.45365219

>>45365143
out of all participant in the 1st day you ask for Sora lewds?

>> No.45365226

>>45364318
Kiara pretty much a disappointment for today and risu once again take crown for sidebranches, heck even ollie did better than supposedly ex-idol kiara

>> No.45365230

>>45365054
SHiTcast mogged!

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>> No.45365253

>>45365219
ok then noel DX lewds

>> No.45365257

>>45365023
You mean random Vox karaoke stream mogging the ultimate HoloExpo buffed HolostarsJP collab stream.

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>>45364893

>> No.45365287

>>45365253
Architect-chama...

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>> No.45365302

>>45365230
I mean CHADcast is literally just 1 person in terms of mindshare whereas as this literally has 2 first army's.

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>>45364893
>>45365270

>> No.45365326

>>45364463
>like those monopoly mixed collabs.

But that shit is not really that popular Kronii got 15K on solo minecraft not too long ago when last monopoly got 18K with 4 people ivolved if you consider that homo event box is around 8K and any girl collab is this gigabuffed event for them the numbers are not exactly crazy and would naturally go down the more you spam it removing the event aspect from it.

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>> No.45365389

So, I missed most of the show today, had to leave after 2-3 songs on the paid part. Any particular highlights after that?

>> No.45365404

>>45361410
>>45362143
>>45362394
Actually one factor that anons havent been taking into account with the whole why Anycolor doing this is China.
Back in Oct when Xi won his 3rd term as head of the CCP one of his goals was to have Chinese companies try to increase their investments in foreign companies more by giving them incentives as a way to mitigate the manufacturing drain that was happening in china by trying to increase their soft power. Fast forward to March, Xi has won his presidency and then Anycolor suddenly wants to open up to more foreign investors on the same month.
It was probably the reason why for a short while B2 softened their stance on Hololive (but for some reason did a 180 on that) and is also probably the reason why Anycolor decided to open up more for foreign investors.

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>>45364893
>>45365314

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>> No.45365417

>>45365302
ID has more likes too, ENshart.

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Easily the hypest moment of Day 1

>> No.45365426

come on anon, this is your chance to post lewds of rare holo like Mel/roboco

>> No.45365432

>>45364057
The absolute state of nijiniggers

>> No.45365443

>>45364696
And HoloID has even less of an opportunity as well, and yet Ollie killed it this year while ID1 blew away expectations last FES and kept it up. I personally hate people who fellate Risu and Moona, but they put on a good show at FES.

>> No.45365448

>>45365389
ChocoSubaLuna's group number

>> No.45365449

>>45365226
Kiara herself wasn't a fan or her performance but it was still good, just not as hype as last year.

>> No.45365469

Will Holo*27 also have a 30m free section?

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>> No.45365475

>>45365389
See >>45353132

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>>45364893
>>45365410

>> No.45365500

>>45365418
Nah, Shiraken > holoX > Mumei

>> No.45365512

>>45364057
based, another seethingpost to add to the whythey'recallednijiniggers collection

>> No.45365516

>>45365389
Subaru, Polka, Risu, Mumei solo
Olliechama, shubachocoluna, Holox, shiraken, soraWata

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numbers

>> No.45365534

>>45364956
for that debuff lineup? yeah

>> No.45365537

>>45365471
is that pinvise?

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>>45364893
>>45365484

>> No.45365559

People sure like using ID to shit on EN.

>> No.45365567

>>45365512
I don't think the retard think it though when he decided to expose himself like that

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>> No.45365604

>>45365475
>>45365448
>>45365516
thank you kindly

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>>45364057
>[Deleted]
You have already been enshrined

>> No.45365620

So from a pure numbers perspective which is the superior Suisei related group MiComet,Shiraken or StartEnd

>> No.45365621
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WHO WOULD WIN THIS BATTLE TO THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THIS BOARD AND THREAD?

>A TOP OF HIS CLASS INDUSTRY BEACON COMPUTER SCIENTIST BUILDING A FULL BLOWN MILITARY GRADE EMOTION ANALYSIS BOT TO DETECT SLANDER AGAINST HIS OSHI-COMPANY AND REPLY TO CLEAN THEIR IMAGE
>one humble sapling manually posting a single picture of his oshi and saying "UUUUUU I miss Fauna, when is her next stream"?

THE ANSWER WILL ANGER AND CONFUSE YOU!

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>> No.45365635

>>45365559
some kind of mental disorder from nijinigs im guessing considering their id branch is most likely on the verge of a revolt

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>>45364893
>>45365550

>> No.45365687

Ogey

>> No.45365691

>>45365417
>ENshart
Oh hey, it's the slant eye again. Cope, seethe and go back.

>> No.45365703

>>45365620
Suisei Toko

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nijimonkeys really did get mindbroken by the chairs huh?

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>>45364893
>>45365663

>> No.45365751

>>45365567
Who gives a shit about that fag? I am using this to shit on other nijikeks

>> No.45365792

Is Vox not a numberfag anymore? I was expecting some cope tweet over the low karaoke numbers

>> No.45365794

>>45365443
As one of the three people who watched Reine's mini-live, I hope she picks a good song for the one chance she has to show off being a good stage performer.

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>>45364893
>>45365741

>> No.45365833

>>45365500
Who the fuck was hyped for the HoloX forced meme, Suisei showing up during the Shiraken group song was probably the biggest individual moment in day 1 but the Ollie+Haachama duet was somehow the most exciting performance

>> No.45365845

>>45365443
that's why i talked about circumstances.
For ID/JP they hired people who are inspired to be idols. But for EN they went for entertainer or whatsoever first before pivotting to idol stuff
That's why I brought up FES1-2. Girls in early gens back then weren't expected to do idol stuff but with more concert and guest appearance, they had more chances to do their reps.

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>>45364893
>>45365811

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>>45364057
>Deleted
Oh no no no no
You don't get to run away like that

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>>45364893
Today is a free for all, no?

>> No.45365875

>>45365751
im bored of shitting on nijifags here
im actually having more fun joining their communities and spreading rrats which is especially easy when they dont watch or pay attention to any livers other than their oshis

>> No.45365878

>sees the bot pic got posted on catalog
>instantly deleted
KEK
so it's true that the faggot is a nijijanny

not only he seethe eternally, he also did it for free

>> No.45365896

>>45364739
It would make Cover and the girls think engaging with homo shit is just not worth it, why do you think homostars weren't merged into hololive years ago nijistyle? If homos weren't harrased they would never stay in their lane, they would have only this possitive feedback from redditors who don't even watch streams.

>> No.45365913

>>45364725
>He doesn't know about that cool megaman inspired fangame

>> No.45365922

>>45364057
What happened sister? Mindbroken?

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>>45365874
>>45364893

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>>45364893
>>45365856

>> No.45365943

>>45365443
>hates people who say Risu and Moona were good
>admits it himself that Risu and Moona were good
What mental illness do you have?

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>> No.45365958

>>45364057
I thought I already saw peak nijisister mental illness until now.

>> No.45365975

>>45365874
>not even trying to hide the fake boobs
Then what's the point?

>> No.45365982

>>45365620
miComet can't even get 50k ccv on 1 pov so they're out

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>> No.45366002

>>45365875
Based, larping always works better than shitting on them.

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>>45364893
>>45365935

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>> No.45366019

>>45365792
He freed himself. He realize being a numberfag man who’re is not worth it, he just want to play games

>> No.45366043

>>45364057
You could've made Nijicure or complete that rocksuki game with that amount of dedication, sister...

>> No.45366045

>>45366009
Wait a minute...why didn't they add rrat...

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>> No.45366067

>>45365792
He was basically forced to stop to not completely ruin his mental state

>> No.45366081

>>45365975
For the record, the eye lens, the horns and the hair are fake too.

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>>45364893
>>45366008

>> No.45366105

>>45365792
he doesnt want to anymore and found a perfect way to depart with his more schizo fanbase through hex
although he still has company mandated number streams like rape asmr

>> No.45366104

>>45365875
Get some rest holospy, you have an event tomorrow.

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>> No.45366139

>>45365833
HoloX might be forced but I like the individual members and the performance was really high energy

>> No.45366144

>>45365845
It's been two and a half years since Myth's debut, and they knew they were gonna have to dance at FES yet did zero reps. Meanwhile, Ollie certainly didn't aspire to be an idol, she's talked about what her dream was before joining Hololive and it was to be a voice actor, to the point that she was willing to voice eroges to get her foot in the door if that was what it took, but she took it seriously and did her fucking reps.

>>45365943
>Risu and Moona perform well on the FES stage
>Risu and Moona mog everyone every time they open their mouth to sing, the rest of Holo crumble in their presence because they're both technical experts and blessed with godlike voices

Which of these takes do you see posted more on this board?

>> No.45366151

>>45365532
I bought the ticket and watched it live and can archive it on my own, but I'm still tempted to torrent this just to bump up numbers
wtf is wrong with me

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>>45364893
>>45366082

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>> No.45366218

>>45365878
actually spent money to buy models to shitpost on a mongolian basket weaving site

>> No.45366232

>>45366211
IMPOSTOR!

>> No.45366242

>3rdFes Day1: 26 performances
>4thFes Day1: 33 performances
Holobrosssss
We're inclining!!!!!

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>>45364893
>>45366179

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>> No.45366262

>>45366151
piracy is a mental illness

>> No.45366273

>>45366232

>> No.45366289

>>45365532
The DDL has close to 1800 downloads.

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>>45366211

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>>45364893
>>45366244

>> No.45366302

I can't get parade out of my head

>> No.45366318
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>> No.45366332

>>45366151
are you the same anon who bought a ticket but then watched through the pirate streams?

>> No.45366338

EN will have minecraft arc after holofes, right?

>> No.45366341

>>45366144
>Risu and Moona mog everyone every time they open their mouth to sing, the rest of Holo crumble in their presence because they're both technical experts and blessed with godlike voices
Who the fuck says this, every Risuner knows that she has a ton of potential that is mostly squandered because she's a self sabotaging retard who refuses to take her singing seriously, and I don't think anyone considers Moona that good, she just does her reps and sings songs that stand out among the usual generic idol jpop tunes

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>> No.45366374

>>45365792
The 12hrs marathons of Bloodborne and Donkey Kong should have already clued you on Vox, he knows to have lost the Mandate of Heaven.

>> No.45366378

>>45364882
I'm pretty sure those posts being displayed are used as training data, and are not actually the posts made by the bot. It says that the bot isn't even running at the moment on the top right.

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>>45364893
>>45366301

>> No.45366388

>>45366302
Shittiest hololive ensemble song by a country mile

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What an exciting hour!

>> No.45366401

>>45366242
Note that 4thFes has 25 solo+opening/closing song.
So the fact that there were going to be group songs at all were a genuine surprise.

>> No.45366410

>>45365845
>Girls in early gens back then weren't expected to do idol stuff but with more concert and guest appearance, they had more chances to do their reps.
I would agree with you had Council, the most recent EN gen, not debuted FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO DAYS AGO

To put that in context, 572 days is the EXACT number of days between Marine and Coco
>I'm horny!
collab, which happened in Aug 24, 2020, and Holofes 2022, which happened in March 19 2022.

That's enough time for some improvement.

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>> No.45366431

>>45366341
>[fandom] says [their favorite person] has tons of potential

wooow no shit?

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>>45364893
>>45366381

>> No.45366450

>>45366397
>mogged by indog playing pozzard game

>> No.45366464

>>45366401
It was only an surprise for fucking retards

>> No.45366472

>>45366332
No, even if numberfagging has corrupted me, I'd never settle for flaky restreams

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Why does she get to be in both days?
It's not fucking fair.

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>>45364893
>>45366442

>> No.45366513

>>45366410
The problem if they just have access to proper training facilities for what? less than half a year.

>> No.45366520

>>45366338
No but from what some of the en said in their members stream we might get a company of heroes arc

>> No.45366519

>>45366495
blue woman privilege

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>>45364893
>>45366496

>> No.45366573

>>45366495
She asked
Literally just asked
A lot of time Holo get cool stuffs from Cover because THEY ASKED

>> No.45366581

>>45364057
>this seethe over Gura "pedos"

Reminds me of that famous sistercord leak, guess using bots is easier than steam giftcards. Pretty sure same person shilled bettel /here/.

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>> No.45366595

>>45366341
Moona doesn't even act like an idol, both her singing and dancing is more similar to standard pop singers, but people still use her to shit on ENs for not doing reps.

>> No.45366598

>>45366513
>proper training facilities
Mate, there are dancing studios and voice coaches in every single city and town in the western world except maybe the 5 people rural village in the middle of Cornfield, Iowa.
You don't really think the JP girls do all of their sing and dance reps in Cover overpacked 3D studio, do you?

>> No.45366608

>>45366520
>spoiler
Don't give me hope

>> No.45366611

>>45366495
because she asked anon
same reason why subaru got a mech

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>>45364102
I only have nornis and these old nijifes ones...

>> No.45366615

https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1637158285014089729
>achan is staying awake to post the main channel 2M celebration pic she made
Just go to bed, eugene...
Also
>main channel is going to hit 2M while having 666 videos

>> No.45366629

>>45366584
bwo, I can see it...

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>> No.45366633

>>45366431
What the fuck are you trying to say retard

>> No.45366640

>>45366338
No. More likely to have a RE4 arc and then after the Zelda arc.

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>>45364893
>>45366555

>> No.45366660

>>45366338
more like no stream arc

>> No.45366665

>>45366615
and tomorrow is hologra 200, what a lucky coincidence

>> No.45366671

>>45366598
People can learn to dance from youtube tutorials if they really wanted.

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>>45366595
>both her singing and dancing is more similar to standard pop singers, but people still use her to shit on ENs for not doing reps.
I'll go out of a limb here (not being one that compares Moona to the EN girls) and say people that uses Moona to bash other girls do it because Moona clearly did her reps

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>> No.45366681

>>45366581
Well, what did you expect? Like true insects, they don't want to work to earn money, just turn on a bot and claim the credit.

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>>45364893
>>45366642

>> No.45366687

>>45366573
>Just ask
Doesn't work if your name is Pekora

>> No.45366689

>>45366595
>but people still use her to shit on ENs for not doing reps.
Yeah?? Moona does her reps and the EN girls don't, what does Moona's preferred dance style have to do with that conversation?

>> No.45366706

>>45366598
Glorious nippon dance studio folded over one thousand times can't be compared to silly gaijin. It's not like one of the best dancers in the company in Aki learned to dance from an overseas school of belly dancing or anything.

>> No.45366714

>>45366674
yup let's use someone with precedent experience to dunk on a bunch of autistic girls, totally organic.

>> No.45366736

>>45366608
just believe anon fauna and bae have been doing their Kampfgruppe Lehr reps in members stream

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>> No.45366749

>>45366595
Wut. How is that shitting on EN? EN clearly didn't do their dancing reps

>> No.45366750

>>45366687
Oh fuck off schizo why tf you keep bringing Pekora into every conversation

>> No.45366753

i LOVE ID vs EN!

>> No.45366757

Can someone tell me how did Yagoo got two talented singers for ID1 and an okayish singer for ID2?

>> No.45366760

>>45366612
>That second Kiara clip
Holy shit

>> No.45366761

>>45366598
If the girls spend all their time training then we would have no streams anon. People already complain about lack of streams if holoen goes full idol mode than the lack of streams are only going to worst. Using the reddit as a guideline the vast amount of viewers have little to no interest in idol activites

>> No.45366770

>>45366671
Nah, proper reps involve a 43 years old blonde deep voiced failed ballet dancer from East Germany using a wooden yand rule to bash the girls in the legs when they fail their routines.
>and I'm only half kidding
It is very rare for a person to have enough self discipline, motivation and determination to master a subject on their own without external incentive

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>>45364893
>>45366688

>> No.45366782

>>45366757
wym, Anya is the best singer in ID2

>> No.45366785

>>45366757
Who is the okayish singer?

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>> No.45366797

I'm just so tired of mentally unhinged retards always making everything about EN. If tomorrow you'd put a JP next to an EN and they both shat themselves live we'd have threads upon threads of debate on why the JP shit smelled sweeter. What makes you hate this "irrelevant sidebranch" so much that you've spend days of your lives (in total hours) downplaying everything they ever did ever?

>> No.45366822

>>45366612
iirc even the girls from kamitsubaki live moved more actively than the 3 stooges from nornis

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>>45364893
>>45366771

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>>45366761
>If the girls spend all their time training then we would have no streams anon.
I genuinely don't know if you are being sincere or taking a dig at the EN girls.

>> No.45366843

>>45366674
I don't get why people say this dancing was so impressive, because it seems pretty ordinary to me.

>> No.45366858

>>45363258
Expo? None, will maybe watch 5 mins of the camera stream and just play some games.
Fes? Hype as hell, all the big hitters will be here, gonna be kino.

>> No.45366883

>>45366843
What's an impressive dance, Nijifriend?

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>>45364893
>>45366830

>> No.45366893

>>45366785
Ollie sounds great with Haato

>> No.45366892

>>45366612
I love how the other EN girls just gave Kiara a dance solo segment in their song lmao

>> No.45366896

>>45366761
The girls being lazy fuckers who excuse themselves with "muh behind the scenes" shit shouldn't be surprised they get shit on when the time to showcase those behind the scene trained skills and fall flat.

>> No.45366900

>>45366843
It’s impressive, but rather “mass-produced” if you ask me. Most K-pop dancer do those same movements

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>>45363126
>less ccv
You won't get away with this nijikek

>> No.45366915

>>45366785
3rd worse singer overall

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>>45364057

>> No.45366930

>>45366893
She's the worst singer in Holoro

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>> No.45366940

>>45366338
EN Minecraft is dead
At least some ID confirmed they're returning to Minecraft soon

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>>45364893
>>45366888

>> No.45366955

>Aqua's rm is playing apex with lap's rm
What does this mean?

>> No.45366960

>>45366883
nta but you must admit that the Nornis chicks not even managing to be driven to move a little bit just by the music is a feat in itself

>> No.45366967

>>45366930
That's irys.

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>>45364057
least schizo nijinigger

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>> No.45367005

>>45366797
Because a certain segment of posters here are forever mad about the 2020 EN sub numberfags who probably don't even watch vtubers anymore.

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>>45364893
>>45366942

>> No.45367037

>>45364057
But what does /ggg/ have to do with homos or nijifags? They tell everyone who brings that shit up there to fuck off. Holy rent free.

>> No.45367040

>>45366967
Nijisister holoro is ID gen2

>> No.45367059

>>45366714
I don't and I agree with you. It would be like comparing the rest of the girls rapping skill with Mori's if that was the trade from the company instead of (essentially) pop sing and dance.
But in the same analogy, if the trade of the company was rapping, it would be expected that two years down the road the girls would have at least made some effort to improve their rapping skills. It would be unfair to compare them to Mori (or even Watame and Haachama) but it would be reasonable to take a dig at them for not being able to do even 1/10 of what's needed

>> No.45367068

>>45366797
Filthy gaijins entered "their" glorius nipponese 1000 times folded entertainment. Now it's ruined and only thing left to do is to sperg out online.

>> No.45367076

>>45366927
>above average IQ
>choose to be Nijinigger
I'd say that this result isn't accurate

>> No.45367079

>>45366573
Gura asks but she gets denied 9 times out of 10

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>> No.45367091

>>45366612
Even Suisei performed better than these three stooges

>> No.45367092

>>45366955
https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1637096173952696320
Probably this.
Aqua did say she might play/stream Apex again in the near future.

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Will she kneel?

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>> No.45367150

>>45366955
>>45367092
>Check /hlg/
>No reaction
Well now that weird, if there’s RM shit usually they will be the one who catch it first

>> No.45367156

>>45367079
EN management =/= JP management
she literally have to ask the JP management to get her dakimakura

>> No.45367169

>>45366883
Never watched Niji, but seriously, she's just moving her arms slowly and gyrating a bit, there are multiple better dancers in Hololive. That entire performance is overrated in regards to the dancing (singing was good).

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>> No.45367180

>>45367097
She'll phone it in for appearances sake, but obviously we know her heart isn't in it.

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>>45367150
I mean...

>> No.45367191

>>45367150
>Nijinigger spergout
>Sudden RM rrats
What did you expect?

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>>45366900
>Most K-pop dancer do those same movements
That's the beauty of the trade. It is very hard to be original, 99% of the pop industry is to be good enough to ace a mass produced step.
There is a reason Michael Jackson got such a good rep and it was not for his singer but for his choreo.
You know the AWESOME "Smooth Criminal" choreography? Not only Michael Jackson came with it but he also invented (and patented) the shoes that make it possible.

Impressive is easy, innovative is hard as fuck

>> No.45367195

Why are you Anons shitting on Nijis? They obviously don't train for dancing and singing, doing so is to please retarded otakus. Streaming is all you need as a vtuber.

>> No.45367214

>>45367059
go watch holofes 1 nigger, the EN girls (even myth) got truly incensed in the Hololive system 3 months ago with their JP arc, they have less expertise than holoX, sending mocap data for holofes3 isn't idol reps. and i repeat using moona against ame or mumei is like using kiara against iofi or kaela, thread carefully.

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>>45364057

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>>45364893
>>45367031

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>> No.45367251

>>45366750
Am I wrong? It's an open secret management has favorites and Suisei is one of them and Pekora is not.

>> No.45367257

>>45366612
>That Ame clip
I still don't understand why she did it

>> No.45367266

>>45367195
then ask them why are they aiming for that idol pie?

>> No.45367269

>>45367236
kek

>> No.45367301

>>45366955
practicing for the saikyou anon

>> No.45367304

Is it just me or does HoloFes unironically need a 3rd day? The first 2 hours was spent on solo performances with the last hour being quartet and duet performances. It made me realize that assuming JP7, EN3 and ID3 (and maybe ID4) get added to Fes5 your looking at 16 additional people performing on stage. That's at least an additional hour minimum for each day that needs to be added to accomodate everyone and that's assuming they don't get their own set of group performances. I honestly don't think I can handle a 5 hour fes (at least not with my timezone). How open do you think Yagoo is about adding a day 3?

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>> No.45367331

>>45367257
Dorky and autistic is Ame's brand, might as well lean into it

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>>45364893
>>45367244

>> No.45367353

>>45364688
>>45364818
wow it can even samefag
why not use this tech to build an Enna coombot or something anon?

>> No.45367358

>>45367251
You are wrong since 2021

>> No.45367366

>>45365620
startend

>> No.45367371

>>45367304
ask him to debut more gen so that we can have 3rd day

>> No.45367376

>>45367304
I believe they will end up with branch specific festivals in the future but that will probably not happen for a long time

>> No.45367380

>>45367331
actually scratch that it's al of HoloEN's brand

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>> No.45367432

>>45367304
They would need 20 more holos to fill a third day

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>>45364893
>>45367337

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>> No.45367469

You guys mocks people who can't buy the ticket as third worlders living in shithole but the seeders from the torrent are mostly american and european.

>> No.45367471

>>45367304
>EN3
>fes5
At this rate they aren't appearing in fes5 since they won't even debut soon or at all.

>> No.45367476

>>45367304
The real solution is to do away with solo parts other than the new Holo debuts.

>> No.45367484

>>45366332
that wasn't me but I did the same thing, just had one restream as a backup in case SPWN shit the bed.

>> No.45367500

>>45367376
HoloEN concert is the first step toward that. They want to see if they have enough logistic to pull an EN concert off. If they can then holding other branch-focused concert would be piece of cake

>> No.45367513

>>45367376
At least if they did that I wouldn't need to get up at 5am to watch EN.

>> No.45367528

>>45367304
Honestly a 3 day Holo Fest that takes place from Friday to Sunday might be necessary next year

>> No.45367533

>>45367500
That was pretty much what made me think that

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>> No.45367540

>>45367214
>go watch holofes 1
I did, contemporarily. I gave an even more recent example at >>45366410, even in August 2020 weeks before Myth's debut, several Holo girls had no aptitude AT ALL and even less stamina.

My whole contention with the whole thing is: >the EN girls (even myth) got truly incensed in the Hololive system 3 months ago with their JP arc
there is no reason for why that was the case. Maybe COVER is to blame, for not demanding them to do it earlier, maybe they themselves are to blame, for not picking it up earlier but the reality is that for the past full two years at very least (since Bloom) it is clear that doing sing and dance reps are a valuable asset for the Holo girls to have, the EN girls clearly mention "behind the scenes" work (which was assumed to be reps for the longest time) but, at least so far, very little improvement was shown.

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>>45364893
>>45367443

>> No.45367590

>>45367304
Not really open. I think Deco concert is test to see if they can split performances into 3 parts, but still managed it in 2 days.

>> No.45367600

>>45367304
you get your 3rd day but is just the homos

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>> No.45367610

>>45367376
It's a logical answer but I really don't want the Hololive branches segregated since it kind of defeats the purpose of HoloFes (except the homos, they can go stand in the corner or some shit).

>> No.45367611

>>45367304
Yeah there's no real way around it so long as they keep doing solo parts, but axing the solo parts would also fly in the face of how Cover has always wanted to handle hololive and the girl's individuality

>> No.45367618

>>45366495
>Suisei shows up
>half the audience flips penra to her blue

Hoshiyomi are the strongest fanbase, and I'm not even one of them.

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>>45367194
>Michael Jackson
most of mj moves were copie from fred astaire , gene kelly james brown etc
and his smooth criminal lean was "inspired" by the wizard of oz lean

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>>45364893
>>45367567

>> No.45367653

>>45367304
Day 3 is a bit hard since you'd have to include Friday night which isn't that great compared to weekends.
Solution is to either remove solo parts or change it to centers (every holo gets a group songs where they are the center performer, no need for additional group songs)

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>>45364956
eh doesn't matter
all i see is fake numbers anyways

>> No.45367679

>>45367304
Just make it all group songs, holofes people come to watch the talents mingling with each other after all.

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>> No.45367745

>>45366782
Kek. I hope anya do her idol rep for tomorrow stage

>> No.45367753

>>45367469
Its a gift for your shitty internet

>> No.45367786

>>45367679
Well there’s a small problem, and the at is the fact a lot of fan favorite groups have overlaps
Startend and Umisea both have Aqua for example

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>>45367643

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>> No.45367811

>>45367610
I don't really want that either but at some point something must change as they add more members and but the nature of that change is is up in the air.
It certainly doesn't help that hololive doesn't have the same turnover factor as other idol agencies have

>> No.45367878

>>45367631
>most of mj moves were copie from fred astaire , gene kelly james brown etc
As I mentioned, there is no true originality in art, everything is an homage, inspired by, improved from earlier works.
You missed the true inspiration for Michael Jackson btw.
Here is a video on that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-qUMzMVzdw

Employing something in a new context is disruptive in itself tho, and you can see the state of pop choreographed dancing before and after Michael Jackson to see the impact his video clips and live performances had

>> No.45367940

>>45365404
China is literally behind everything bad happening in vtubing industry.

>> No.45367949

>>45367745
I need to see how that autist moves in 3d

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>>45367798

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>>45364893
>>45367973

>> No.45368137

>>45366615
>666 videos
Really? Did you count the expo and live tomorrow?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMg4WsZfASI
MY ONAHOLE

>> No.45368172

>>45367940
The chinks have had a meltdown in over 109 communities and actively made them worse, surely they can't all be wrong?

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kek, the Holo girls disclosing a little bit of their current purchase power
>800$ for UberEats?! Talk about Holomem's food costs & eating habits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvhxn8tCP80

800 bucks for Uber Eats in a month is a little too much even in my very white very european country. These girls are loaded as fuck even for western standards

>> No.45368275

>>45367304
Cut homofaction from idolshit and put them in holostars event, it's easy.

>> No.45368297

>>45367940
Currently yeah.
Reason why i found some slight connection was that a few weeks ago when anons posted the bilibili thing here i was looking for a reason why they would suddenly approve of a hololive video getting trending there.
Though I cant explain why they did a 180 and deleted the video the coincidence of Xi winning the presidency and Anycolor suddenly opening up to more chinese investors was just too much of a coincidence

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>>45364893
>>45368121

>> No.45368389

day 2 concert predictions
>Anya will give a spectacular performance and steal the show
>Aqua will sing Aquairo pallete
>Suisei will end the whole concert with a solo
>PekoMari singing pkmk daisensou
>Mori performs EoaL in her casual outfit
>Fauna bombs her solo part, ame-tier performance. Will be depressed and on-hiatus for 6 months right after

>> No.45368429

>>45368240
Depending on the Holo, that money can be made in just one stream. I find it normal, for the high tier holos.

>> No.45368453

>>45368240
I get paid a good office worker's wage in a rich EU state and I only spend at most 50$ a week for food
i cook my own food

>> No.45368470

>>45367304
Doable. Most convention divided into morning/afternoon section. They just need to up the scale of it
HoloExpo at the morning, lunch break, then the concert begin on the afternoon, then in the future if there’s more Holo they can expand it to night as well
It’s all about time management, 48 hours is not as little as you think

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>>45364893
>>45368363

>> No.45368487

>>45368389
Disregarding everything else, i do hope Anya have a kino appearance

>> No.45368490

>>45368240
tbf from what I've seen all streamers are like this. You know how streamers eat on cam while watching tiktoks? Yeah they order uber eats for that every time.
They're obviously loaded but even not loaded streamers order a shit ton of uber eats because cooking unironically cuts into time you could be doing other shit

>> No.45368541

>>45368389
>Pekora singing PekoMiko song
Already wrong, try again. Not even Micomet sing ship song in HoloFes

>> No.45368585

>>45368389
>PekoMari singing pkmk daisensou
that would be schizo as fuck wouldn't it. I kind of like the idea.

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>> No.45368610

>>45368490
What if the streamer makes cooking into content between their usual streams? Is there anyone that does that?

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I hope my cute tsun dagger steals the show.

>> No.45368620

>Nijinigger got so mind broken by Hololive, he literally admitted to have been spamming with his shit bots non stop
LMAO. Nijinigger seethe truly is eternal.

>> No.45368629

>>45368389
Sankisei will have a surprise group song tomorrow and for 1 time only will have rushia as the guest and they will sing secret base

>> No.45368630

>>45368453
I cook at home as well, but I like to treat my wife to a nice meal outside.
Even for both of us, even if we went out every Saturday and every Sunday to decent restaurants, it wouldn't add up to 800 bucks per month

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>>45364893
>>45368486

>> No.45368649

>>45367540
Or maybe Ame and some other EN just don't have a talent for dancing and would require a lot of effort for minimal gain
For Ame in particular, her dancing wasn't even that bad compared to some JP holomem

Her overall performance was lackluster due to the combo of:
- mediocre dancing
- mediocre singing
- mediocre song (imo)
- mediocre audience interaction - I actually got second hand embarassment from the lack of calls from the audience during the parts intended for them

Meanwhile you have Gura whose idol reps do appear to be working (at the extreme expense of streaming)
Her dancing, if not stellar, is fairly adequate from what we've seen so far

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>> No.45368694

So I have to admit I know to little of all the holos originals/covers. Was day1 a mix or did we only se one or the other?

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>>45368490
>because cooking unironically cuts into time you could be doing oth-
CHOCO COOKING MUSIC STOPS!

Can a girl be any more perfect?
>Cooks well
>Is a good host
>Gets 20k CCV to cook delicious meals!

>> No.45368700

>>45368585
No that sound wrong, first of all, Pekora don’t sing ship song. Second of all, her song pick are usually song that is about loving her audience, happened in last year HoloFes, her anni and this year birthday

>> No.45368709

>>45368610
>What if the streamer makes cooking into content between their usual streams?
really not as easy as it sounds since preparation for cooking streams alone takes a lot of time
>t. used to do cooking streams during the pandemic

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>> No.45368734

>>45368649
Gura is going blunder too chumbud.

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>>45364893
>>45368642

>> No.45368742

>>45368610
Watch Tyler1 variety era. Vtuber cooking mogged

>> No.45368763

>>45368694
It was mixed but with slightly more weight towards originals i think

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>>45368629
>Rushia shows up
>everybody is cheering and it's the highlight of the day
>but something's wrong
>Mikeneko's having another menhera fit on Twitter, insisting that wasn't her on stage

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>> No.45368844

>>45368793
Discussion about her should be banned during big events

>> No.45368852

>>45368389
Replace Fauna with irys

>> No.45368863

>>45368470
Expanding all the way to night time is kind of too much for me famalam. The only online event that I ever do all nighters for is EVO (and E3 back when it actually meant something) and even then I rarely have my full attention on the screen unless it's for Tekken or SF. HoloFes requires your full attention all throughout since it's basically like one big, continuous party. Having that extend all the way to night time is asking a lot from your online audience.

>> No.45368866

bibibi will be the best song for the deco concert

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>>45364893
>>45368741

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>> No.45368895

>>45367304
Next year instead of the holo27 stage it's just three hololive stages

>> No.45368918

>>45368852
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1637168682593058816

>> No.45368933

>>45368389
Replace Fauna with Kronii

>> No.45368938

>>45368793
>None of Sankisei say anything about it
>Become the first genuine creepypasta of Vtubing

>> No.45368953

>>45368389
I kinda want a Fauna depression arc but without the hiatus part

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>>45364893
>>45368881

>> No.45368971

>>45368630
I mean if it were those luxurious restaurants I can see it happening but even then it'd be a hard stretch as well

>> No.45368974

>>45363527
Toko is so pretty, she deserves better desu

>> No.45368988

>>45368793
>>45368938
>Mikeneko was actually just a rushia skinwalker
>The real rushia was actually hitomi chris

>> No.45368991

>>45367940
>China is literally behind everything bad
ftfy

>> No.45369006

>>45368891
<3

>> No.45369025

god i hate how fucking fake everything about nijisanji is. everything to appeal to investors, to squeeze every drop of water from a stone, no matter how immoral it would be. fake engagements, bribe artists, release bots and sabotage other agencies. they even bribe hal to let kuzuha cheat and have a better team so that he gets better numbers and bigger watchtime to be able to compete with pekora and other streamers in those metrics that appeal to investors. there is just so much shit i've been thinking about lately. All the culls, all the drama and shadowbans, literally the reason why your oshi does not stream regularly anymore or doesnt have so much passion, is because of anykara and their chinese investors. think about it. you can trace most of the bad things that hapened to hololive back to nijisanji.
in another timeline that investor picked hololive.
think how beauitiful that timeline is.
but the retards picked niji in this one.

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>>45364893
>>45368960

>> No.45369094

>>45369006
><3
those are my balls hitting up her coochie and spreading those lips

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>> No.45369152

>>45369025
I could not give a rat ass about what Anykara is doing. I see Hololive number and my oshi number going up, I am happy

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>>45364893
>>45369082

>> No.45369182

Here's my prediction for tomorrow. Pekora will sing Rushia's Og song omoikou

>> No.45369195

how to get high res channel emotes without membering?

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>>45368702
I want to see the numbers AZKi could get on a cooking stream since all the other Holomen talk her up and the things she's shown on Twitter look really nice.

>> No.45369252

>>45369182
Already wrong, Pekora don’t even sing her original song, let alone others orisong
No one know what she going to do, so let’s just leave it at that

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my cute wife

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>>45364893
>>45369175

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>>45364893
>>45369299

>> No.45369359

>>45369182
Nah she will sing secret base

>> No.45369364

I wonder what announcements there will be tomorrow, the ones from today were basically confirming what we already knew and also the holo city stuff

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>>45368649
>just don't have a talent for-
I'll be very blunt. There are some girls (and some boys too) that have a natural talent for some stuff: drawing, singing, dancing, it just come very easy and natural for them.
For all the 99% of the rest of us maggots, results come from practice and rote memorization.
For the record, anons were mocking "thousand folded japanese idol reps" up in the thread but that's silly as fuck, nips picked it up from western boy bands and girl bands.

Here is an example of "how are babbies formed", aka how a complex choreography is learned and rehearsed.

Final result
>Jordan Knight - Give It To You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijXcYLV1aNg
Superb choreography, one of the best in the tail end of the 90s (despite Jordan himself not have done his reps and pretty much just is there because he's the titular artist).
The black dude in the red shirt, HE (Darrin Henson) is the main choreographer of the whole thing (and also Bye Bye Bye by NSync, Crazy by Britney Spears and pretty much any pop choreo back then).

Here is him teaching the choreography to a class
> MTV - Darrin's Dance Grooves
https://youtu.be/Lx3HRvS2ch4?t=1959
>ONE ... TWO ... THREE ... FOUR ... FIVE ... SIX ... SEVEN ... EIGHT
(now repeat ten thousand times)

It's not talent that's required, it's repetition and effort

>> No.45369396

HoloUnity lewds time?

>> No.45369409

>>45369273
ameshirt anon pls

>> No.45369410

>>45368389
>>Fauna bombs her solo part, ame-tier performance. Will be depressed and on-hiatus for 6 months right after
She's going to have hundreds and thousands of fans cheering her on and saying how good it is in the free chat she puts up, this isn't going to happen

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>>45364893
>>45369356

>> No.45369462

>>45369364
best bets are something about HoloAlt and a new gen

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>>45368734
Wanna bet your balls on that?

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>>45364893
>>45369424

>> No.45369491

>>45369469
Boobs too big

>> No.45369519

Risu here the announcement tomorrow will be EN3 but they will all be korea focused

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>> No.45369581

>>45369519
>EN
>korea focused
Dumb treerrat!!

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>>45364893
>>45369489

>> No.45369641

>>45369409
idk who ameshirt anon is did I miss something? first time ive been back on vt in like 20 hours to cleanse myself of this places general negativity which skimming the thread does not seem to have changed.

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>> No.45369647

>>45369195
Click join button then Inspect element on the emote, open the link
at the end of the link of the emote you will see
>w48-h48-c-k-nd
change the "48" for the resolution you want

>> No.45369656

>>45369378
I hate it when in clips they cut from the singer in the middle of a dance move to a clearly unconnected closeup and back to dancing. Do editors not see how utterly shitty that looks?

>> No.45369658

>>45367811
Desu the lack of turnover is one of greatest strengths hololive has when it comes to keeping dedicated fans and keeping a good image

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>>45364893
>>45369622

>> No.45369684

>>45369519
The announcement is Cover has enacted a hostile takeover of Anycolor and Yagoo shows up with Riku in chains on a leash

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>>45369641
An /here/ anon got caught looking like a gosling while watching Lacunny

>> No.45369714

>>45369581
koreans speak english and is an american colony
also there are people in hololive who dont want korean dedicated branch

>> No.45369718

>>45369273
Tell your wife to improve herself, she was disappointing today

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>>45364893
>>45369666

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>>45369273
Why is she so cute

>> No.45369770
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They have seasonal corner?

>> No.45369776

>>45369658
That's true but it also makes it hard to compare to other agencies where the talents regularly retire and search for greener pastures

>> No.45369786

>>45369697
oh that fuck, he was actually a /here/ anon? jesus lmao
>>45369718
I thought her performance was fine, the backing vocal track was a bit too quiet compared to the parts she sang.

>> No.45369789

>>45369656
Welcome to the 90s school of pop edition. My theory is that they wanted to minimize the number of takes so they would do one or two takes for each scene, pick the best seconds they could, cut right before the fuckups and stitch it together in a hundred and twenty cuts 3 and a half minutes clip

>> No.45369802

>>45369684
>tainting hololive with the garbage that is nijisanji
disgusting its better if the company would go up in flames

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>> No.45369806

>>45369378
>repetition and effort
Yeah that's not gonna happen for those that consider idol stuff just fun (or tedious) side adventures
Not just a EN problem
Also talent isn't binary - it's a whole spectrum

>> No.45369822

good morning comrades, i am ridiculously pumped for holofes day 2

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>>45364893
>>45369723

>> No.45369852

>>45369273
>wife
cyka

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>>45364893
>>45369823

>> No.45369896

>>45369152
who is your oshi?

>> No.45369895

>>45369770
Yeah each of the seasons

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Oh hey apparently they showcasing plushies as well

>> No.45369908

Plusmates are extra horny today, huh.

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>> No.45369921

>>45369378
the pants from those times were really shit

>> No.45369950

>>45369899
I really want an SSBR plush.

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Oh, it ticked over at last

>> No.45370014

>>45369908
nah, that is in honor of holofes gosling contemplating at life while ogling at lacunny

>> No.45370022

>>45369908
Well did you see her on stage lol, I'm not even a plusmate and I couldn't stop thinking about sex.

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>> No.45370077

>>45369896
Nijisanji Official

>> No.45370085

>>45367653
>>45367679
I figure there might be a concern of some girls getting overshadowed by other girls in group as well. Solo part exist to give each girl screentime, it it all become group songs, some girls will inevitably overshadowed the rest and kind of defeat the purpose of HoloFes

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>>45364893
>>45369889

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>> No.45370107

>>45370004
Achan can finally sleep now.

>> No.45370109

>>45367257
I don't care it's cute and sovl

>> No.45370113

Anyone of you have catbox links for shiranui kensetsu and bright parade day 1 performances?

>> No.45370118

>>45370077
You mean Nijisanji accounting department right?

>> No.45370145

>>45370118
No, Nijisanji Anti-slander Department

>> No.45370146

>>45370113
you'll find them here >>45353132

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>>45364893
>>45370089

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>> No.45370202

>>45370118
That's my kami-oshi

>> No.45370215

>>45369806
>Yeah that's not gonna happen for those that consider idol stuff just fun (or tedious) side adventures
I would say that's true for some of the JP girls as well like Choco, Lui, Botan and a couple of others.
>Not just a EN problem
The problem is that even those mentioned above are showing improvement and people aren't asking for more than that.
Marine and Luna aren't sucking as hard in dancing, Choco and Noel showed SLIGHT improvement in their singing and they all got celebrated for that.
And it ends up in one of those situations where those who are NOT putting the effort will get criticized and measured against those who do.

Also: if sing and dance are "side adventures" for some of these EN girls, what is their main adventure.
I'll preempt a potential answer here and say one of the exculpatory statements for the EN girls low number of streams is that
>Cover is not a streaming company and streaming is not their main activity
which could have some truth into it.

So if it is not singing and dancing and releasing music, if it is not streaming regularly, what is these EN girls main activity now?
>that is not about all of them BTW; company wide it is difficult to find a girl with a higher output outside of streaming than Mori, for instance

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>>45364893
>>45370174

>> No.45370296

>>45370240
One of the best illustrations of them. Did the artist made a full set, or drew other Holo girls

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>> No.45370313

>>45363258
Low, EN/ID shoehorned everywhere

>> No.45370338

>>45370004
why is holostats so behind? it shows 1.8M still

>> No.45370361

>>45370004
Kobo, Korone, and Suisei next. I don't think anyone else will reach 2M this year, maybe Miko.

>> No.45370362

>>45369378
none of this is going to make them more successful

>> No.45370379

>>45370145
maybe you meant, Anycolor's shell company

>> No.45370387

>>45362984
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

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>>45370296
https://twitter.com/Midnight_Snykb

>> No.45370434

I don't know what's worse, honestly.
Council not debuting their 3D outfits (forma de original outfit) or them, most likely, not being able to use their home 3D until their showcase.

>> No.45370448

>>45370362
>none of this is going to make them more successful
I'll point at the question here >>45370215 then.

If their success doesn't hinge on live streaming regularly, and if their success doesn't hinge in "side adventures", what is their long term success hinging on?

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>>45364893
>>45370247

>> No.45370503

>>45370398
Thanks anon!

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>> No.45370523

>>45364709
korean idols are the polar opposite of japanese idols

>> No.45370544

>>45370361
I still think it’s crazy that there’s this time period when 2 million was an EN-only achievement. And then all other branches started marching to it at record breaking speed out of nowhere like it’s nothing
In fact EN is no long the branch with the most number of Holo over 2 million anymore (Gura still hold 4 million tho)

>> No.45370549

>>45370448
>If their success doesn't hinge on live streaming regularly, and if their success doesn't hinge in "side adventures", what is their long term success hinging on?
the end game of all streamers which is being marketable

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>>45364893
>>45370501

>> No.45370577

>>45370448
>what is their long term success hinging on?
Ability to keep people attached to the living brand they are, maintaining their cult and it's image in other words

>> No.45370583

>>45370215
Chill, anon. Kiara has already said Ame is merely a beginner dancer and she expressed interest in learning idol stuff. She only had a month to prepare, there is no way to learn any complex choreography in that time. Ame's only experience dancing on stage is previous Holofes and a couple of guest appearances in other holomem 3D lives.

>> No.45370594

>>45370215
> The problem is that even those mentioned above are showing improvement and people aren't asking for more than that.
This is the main point.
Before and even during the first Holofes, and during a lot 3D streams at the time, Luna couldn't even do some very small moving around sections before collapsing out of breath.
Now? She's not an endurance monster by any metric but she can at least do some sing and dance numbers without collapsing.
Noel couldn't sing for SHIT, she was so bad that her first orisong had to be tailor made to be able to be sung by even elementary school kids.
Now? She's not Suisei or even Azki, but she has a second orisong which is a lot more complicated, can sing some other songs, and has even started getting joking fan comments complaining that she "improved her singing too much".
The Ame and Ina that we saw today were the exact same fucking Ame and Ina that we saw a year ago. Despite supposedly putting in a lot of effort into idol reps and lessons to the point that they don't stream regularly.
THAT's what frustrates a lot of EN fans I feel.

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https://twitter.com/suzuran_ro/status/1637080714872012800
Mr Paradise hitting up girls again

>> No.45370614

IS NOONE EXCITED FOR THE QUEENS OF #'S TO PREFORM TOGETHER!?

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>>45364893
>>45370568

>> No.45370663

>>45370614
Marine and Gura performing together is no surprise, but I doubt they will be in the free part

>> No.45370681

>>45370594
>Noel couldn't sing for SHIT
Anon, Noel still can't sing for shit, Her and Choco were both pitch corrected to hell and back. Come on now.

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>> No.45370706

any other interesting non-drama news outside of Hololive?

>> No.45370708

>>45370594
>Despite supposedly putting in a lot of effort into idol reps and lessons
so your just gonna skip the part where ina had a 3 month health break due to possible heart problems? chf most likely

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>>45364893
>>45370655

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>>45370594
Ina has improved somewhat

>> No.45370747

>>45370594
but noel still cant sing for shit though and it shows on her karaoke streams

>> No.45370755

>>45370681
She sound better than all of you guys “good singers”

>> No.45370757

>>45370594
You sound incredibly biased

>> No.45370761

I suffer from chuuba indecision

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>>45364893
>>45370717

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>> No.45370797

>>45370594
>joking fan comments complaining that she "improved her singing too much
anon pls everyone knows thats just fans teasing her when in reality she hasnt improved shit

>> No.45370802

>>45370755
I don't recall any anons here ever claiming to be good singers.

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>>45364893
>>45370765

>> No.45370859

>>45370594
I don't think people really said Ame and Ina were busy with idol reps. That's always been a Gura specific excuse. For Ame it was always her burn out and with Ina it was her 2nd job making her busy

I mean fuck Ame literally just got her 1st orisong in January and she probably only did it so she had an orisong to sing at fes. No one was expecting to her to be doing her reps that much

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>>45370594
>THAT's what frustrates a lot of EN fans I feel.
which circles of EN fans are we talking about here anon? If you mean this thread this thread is INCREDIBLY biased against anything EN.

>> No.45370875

>hololive centric board
>hololive centric thread

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>> No.45370890

>>45370614
Well no nousagi posted much on Twitter yet. They are there in HoloExpo and buy her merchs as well as leaving a lot of messages on her wall but like none of them post anything on Twitter or show up on the HoloExpo stream at all
Weird fanbase

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>>45370706
there was another vtuber idol fes today also aside from holofes

>> No.45370929

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf9R7IjwXbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf9R7IjwXbA
GOLD

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>> No.45370944

>>45370903
What's with people trying to overlap Holofes? Hasn't anyone taken the hint that it might not be a good idea?

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>>45364893
>>45370827

>> No.45370989

>>45370603
i think mr koro should sleep instead of flirting with girls on twitter

>> No.45370994

>>45370706
Not exactly news but this came out few days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQuS7z7ggRw

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>> No.45371044

>>45370594
>THAT's what frustrates a lot of EN fans I feel.
How is no one telling this guy to take his fucking meds? Dude made a sweeping generalization of how he sees some schizos on this shitty ass site feels as truth, when those fucking schizos don't even watch EN.

>> No.45371051

>>45370890
There is like no pekora or gen3 content on the expo though. With the exception of the sistermarine show, which they probably aren't allowed to photo/record while in the audience. Also if anything most nousagi would probably show up at day2 assuming they have either concert ticket.

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>>45364893
>>45370969

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>> No.45371070

>>45370755
magic of technology
try listening to her karaokes shee is still shit when it comes to singing
only sankisei that actually improved their idol reps is marine

>> No.45371077

>>45370929
To the trash it goes

>> No.45371081

what chrome add-on do you use to record spwn?

>> No.45371086

>>45370361
Rushia had a high probability of reaching 2M this year if not for her termination

>> No.45371087

out of curiosity, how much did the nijiEN AR tickets cost?

>> No.45371093

>>45370944
Having so many artists is a problem to reschedule, so I bet they were having just one date and had to run with it.

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>>45364893
>>45371056

>> No.45371126

>>45370944
that one was unintentional due to scheduling
and coordination problems

>> No.45371127

>>45371093
Does make sense.

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>>45371087

>> No.45371169

>>45370549
>being marketable
>>45370577
>Ability to keep people attached to the living brand they are
Holy fuck, that doesn't really say anything!

Actually, it is even worse, it seems to imply Ame (for instance) only quality is to have been part of the massively successful first serious generation of EN vtubers (Myth), lacking the ability to add anything to it.
I disagree in the strongest terms, this is just a restatement of Connors dig at the Holo girls
>no talent needed, just the blue doritos
I don't know if you guys are insulting them on purpose but if not, rethink your "defense" strategy because it is doing more harm than good for them

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=336RQelWvmE

>> No.45371203

>>45371070
I remember when Marine was regarded as the stamina black hole of Sankisei lol, how time flies
I wonder if Pekora still do her dance reps she mentioned one year ago

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>>45364893
>>45371121

>> No.45371259

>>45371169
retard

>> No.45371270

>>45371203
>I wonder if Pekora still do her dance reps she mentioned one year ago
She mentions reps every so often in her part C, it can't be just singing reps

>> No.45371282

>>45371051
Well but you tell me there’s not even a single Pekora cosplay recorded on camera? Now that is weird

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>> No.45371328

>>45371169
I feel like Amelias groupwide 3D collabs and shit was a big reason people who have watched EN this long have fond memories of them, Amelia had her place but has taken a backseat in the last 10 months so thats all you remember with recency bias.

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>>45364893
>>45371226

>> No.45371334

>>45371259
Think about it, the question was
>what does their success hinges on
and the answer was
>the ability of keeping their current audience still their audience on their brand and star power alone
If that's not a restatement of Connor "no talent, all blue dorito" I don't know what it is supposed to say then

>> No.45371336

>>45371270
Ngl but dancing reps is the only thing she can do lol. No amount of reps will make her voice sound good with any song

>> No.45371364

Do you think NijiEN girls watched HoloFes?

>> No.45371373

>>45371169
>I disagree in the strongest terms, this is just a restatement of Connors dig at the Holo girls
kek thats funny coming from connor who didd 2 180;s after trying to ditch the anime crowd and be more like otk/otf thinking that mr beast would adopt them to doing a 180 again and come crawling back to weeb stuff after falling flat on their face

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>> No.45371408

>>45371334
retard

>> No.45371413

>>45371328
The first few ones were magic. The ones one year down the road were not as magic.

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>>45364893
>>45371329

>> No.45371439

Do we know the reason behind Munei subs tick? Stop streaming and now she gain new subs

>> No.45371468

>>45370681
you weren't there for "early Noel" then.

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>> No.45371482

>>45371070
>only sankisei that actually improved their idol reps is marine
I wont claim pekora is good, she is average at best with singing. But you claiming that she hasn't improved over the years shows how little you paid attention. Christ her dancing and singing was worse than most at the start. Her dancing now is not god like, or even top tier. But she's better than the a good chunk of the other talent. Her singing isn't good, at best it's average. But that is a far cry better than it was before. Her reps definitely helped.
Please watch some older content and stop posting for a while.

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>> No.45371522

>>45371169
Why are you implying that its an en only thing when its a hololive thing? why do you think they are so keen on protecting the hololive image and not stepping into any drama? Its because they want to be marketable anon
Now its up to each holo to show and build up how marketable they are but the end game was always being marketable and not muh talent development nor muh idol journey

>> No.45371546

>>45371468
Yeah, it is hard to believe current Noel has shown ANY sign of improvement, but that's because people don't remember why she became infamous for her singing
Choco as well, both improved and today they only suck, instead of
>O̴̼̫̬̰͚̰͈̻̹͈̱̔͐̕͠H̶̢̡̫͈͉̙̹̗͇̰̠͕̐͗̾̏̈́̄̚͜ ̴̡̨͕̱̤͍͓̩͔͖̋̄̈́͋̊͗̈́̾͘͝͠G̸̹̦̣̞̠͈͉̿̓̊͝O̵̧̧̪̘͔̺͙͍̜͔̳͗̋̽̆̇͗̃͌͌̈̈́̓̕͝͠D̷̪͙̟͖͖͉͉͕̮̞̱͌͐̔͋̔͋̐͠ͅͅ ̸̡̫̘̼̖̭̠͇̣̗͌̈̇̆͌͘͜M̴̢̯͗Y̸͉̯͕͈̆̋̋̓́̈́̒̓̈̊̊̀̕ͅ ̷̢̢̛̝͔̻̪̠̱̰̣̱͚͋́̿͒͐́͌̌̐̈͝E̶̟̫͍͑A̸̢̖̺̮͇͚͔͓̪͍̼̻͙͔͛̔̄ͅR̵̡̡̖̘͔̳͗̋̽̿̒Ṡ̷̜͕͜͝ͅ ̶̢̬̗̳̰̳̬̙̱̩͑̐ͅÂ̴̢̰̦̼͚̰̰͍̝̼͓̼R̶̢̤͖̭̰͍̣̬͚̀́̽͗͌̓̎̾̉̕E̸̪̻̜͚̫̮̾͛͆̏̇̀́͐͘͘̚͝ ̸̧̛̤͋̾̏̌̂͗̐̿̈́́B̷̧̢͇̥̺̍͛͋̆͝L̴̡̨̦̫̘̙͉̪͙̯̳̫͙̞͆͜É̷̢̛̠̣̩̞͎̤̺͈̰͕̈́̇̊͂͑̂͂̇̈́̉͝͠ͅͅÈ̷̡̡̜̜͚̬̙͓̤͍̯̟͚̣̊̐́́D̵̯̏̾͌̃̿̎̌̿̂͒͑̕͘Ḭ̸̩̤̥͚͖͔̼̱̟̗̪̜̓̊̎̈̈́̄̇̈́ͅN̴̫̜̗͚͍̪͈͈̹̰̞͋͂͂̈̉̑̋͘ͅG̵̡̡̹̭̤͚͇͓̿͜͠ͅ ̶̡̡̢̡̟̟̙͉̠͍̖͊͐͋̃̆̄͋̒̒̀̽̈͝M̶̟̎Ą̴̧̖̭̤̩͇̣͎͕̀̀͂̆͝K̴̨̨̡̭̩͕̪̪̼̟̯̂̇̂͋̇̇̆͠Ḙ̶̡̥̱̪̯̭̀̽̄̊̉̌́̒́͑͑̕͘̚ ̶̢̡̤̰̖̖̯͖̩̞̱́͊͒̓̑͂̉́̊̈́͠͝Į̸̨̞̫͖͍̣̥̪͉̭̐͒͒̈́͊̇̈́̑͝T̷̡̡̡̗̺̝̥̭̱͙̳͓̙͓̦̍͒͠͝͠ ̵̥̟̇͂̆͒̎̄́̈̀͊͐̕͝Ś̵̡͖̟̩̭̘̋̏̔̌̀̌̽̓̕͜͝Ṯ̸̨͓̱̣͍̼̮̇̈́̽͒̉O̵̖̽͑̓̀͑̿̔̂̏̊̔̏͌͘P̴̧̡̨̫̽̃͝

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>> No.45371567

>>45370797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tamU2GKgYqg
Pretty sure it was teasing while praising her as well

>> No.45371598

>>45371169
>Actually, it is even worse, it seems to imply Ame (for instance) only quality is to have been part of the massively successful first serious generation of EN vtubers (Myth), lacking the ability to add anything to it.
I mean isnt that the same with JP as well? A good example would be pekora, her only quality is being a good streamer other than that she lacks the ability to add anything to it

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>> No.45371627

You people realize Noel overdoes her bad singing for karaoke streams, right?

>> No.45371649

>>45371270
i mean dancing is the only thing she can hopefully improve since her singing will always capped by her voice

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>> No.45371678

A-chan doko?...

>> No.45371694

>>45371413
you are right, last one I felt anything for was the first one with Council at Christmas end of 2021.

>> No.45371717

I know I am asking a lot but I wish Acaね was in the Holofes to sing Kira Killer with Mori and hear all the people in the crowd losing their mind.
But then again, Zutomayo is doing their own live on April and will have Mori.

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>> No.45371763

>>45369647
god bless you anon

>> No.45371764

>>45371482
Nah ive been paying attention to sankisei andd the amount of improvement pekora made especially with the tool she has access to is actually disappointing to say the least compared to other jp holos.
Her only redeeming quality when it comes to improvement is probably just dancing and even in that area its still lackluster considering that they are supposed to be more idol oriented than the EN branch

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>> No.45371790

>>45371649
Wonder if she secretly hate her voice, especially considering how Marine sped past her by having a hit song

>> No.45371794

>>45371522
>Why are you implying that its an en only thing when its a hololive thing?
I am not and I disagree with the premise entirely, I disagree that either the EN girls or the JP girls or the ID girls success hinges on
>not rocking the boat and letting the brand carry them

I'll use Mori as an example because she is the counter example for both claims.
1) She rocked the boat so hard I genuinely am baffled on how she didn't do some final yabe shit and graduated or got terminated.
2) An yet, she excels at her trade (being a whigger kakkoi rapper for a westaboo Japanese and partially western audience) so no matter how much she fucks up, as long as her output continues selling she will continue succeeding.

There is no way the EN girls are counting on being floated by the brand and there is no way they would succeed just by existing and not fucking up their "marketability"
That's a dumb theory, given enough time if the girls do nothing their "marketability" will recline .

>> No.45371804

EN3 at some point will be announced but there's no way they announce it on HoloFes.

>> No.45371811

>>45371567
that was just teasing anon
of course they wouldnt say that noel hasnt improved theyre her fans

>> No.45371827

I hope they sing Kawaikutte Gomen today again

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>> No.45371848

How sure are you that you're not talking to schizo bot anon?

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>>45364893
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>> No.45371867

>>45371764
Jesus, you're still here. Go watch old content since you have no idea what nonsense you're spouting.

>> No.45371880

Kek how the fuck is the discussion ended up being about Pekora again? And you guys said this isn’t a Pekora thread

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>> No.45371891

>>45371804
im hoping for jp7

>> No.45371893

No twitch streamer on HoloFes? I thought they will take this as opportunity to leech some contents

>> No.45371892

>>45371598
>her only quality is being a good streamer
That's a quality. But even Pekora improved in some respects, she used to be an island but, with enough time, she ended up warming up to the other girls and becoming part of various "ensembles".

Anons were claiming that Ame (for instance) has NO REDEEMING QUALITY, no willingness to improve on areas she lacks and that her success hinges on not fucking up what she got till now. That's dumb and there is no truth in it

>> No.45371931

>>45371794
>I'll use Mori as an example because she is the counter example for both claims.
What do you think Mori's brand is in Hololive anon? She's basically marketed herself being the anti-idol which is why her rocking the boat is on brand with her image and which is also why whenever she does her "gap moe" it also sells

>> No.45371941

>>45371893
They hate idol culture anon

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>> No.45371976

>>45371941
The more reason to attend it

>> No.45372004

>>45371880
Anon, this is her main general. Everyone knows it, those that claim it isn't are blind to reality.

>> No.45372019

>>45371931
You might have missed the point. The claim is not
>the girls have to be idols
Anon claimed that "some girls *do not need to be idols*", which is obvious and true, but also claimed "they need to show no improvement and can coast on their current marketability", which is not true

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>> No.45372022

Honestly, I can't think of any way to save nijiEN. Their destiny is stuck like the herd at twitch where you're just playing games for 8 hours a day, while HoloEN is able to stream, sing and dance. Not to mention, Holo is also winning the mindshare war with their unique thing and they're also from the group that has the top female streamers in the world.

>> No.45372029

>>45371364
didn't Kiara invite Nina?

>> No.45372043

This argument is dumb, Ame is literally the 3D tech support of Myth, and she been constantly improving the way she can use that tech
That is her quality, and an useful one too. Not everyone was born to be a super performer

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>>45371794
I mean Mori reclined really fucking hard lately, every single metric we have available shows that she's barely above Kiara tier. I think that her yabs kinda hindered her and that if she played her cards right she could've become a genuine international star.
Still makes me wonder why Cover doesn't bother trying to recreate a Mori, are they just not interested or are there no suitable hires? I know plenty of amazing struggling musicians who would kill for the visibility Cover offers. Then I look at Tempiss and see that their designated Vsinger gave up after a couple of gay covers and now just spams fucking Apex.

>> No.45372070

>>45371804
Imagine if they'll announce another Stars gen lol

>> No.45372092

>>45372029
>>45372021
Nina almost 100% watch HoloFes, it's obvious but how about the other girls?

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>> No.45372124

>>45372043
>That is her quality, and an useful one too.
For someone behind the scene. Specially now that the girls are one 14 hours plane trip from the proper 3D studio, and given that Ame studio is 8 hours away at least from most EN girls, I say that can't be what Ame hinges her future on.

>> No.45372161

so rather than schizoing the fuck out, when does the deco27 stage start

>> No.45372166

>>45372019
i mean you criteria of what to improve is so vague
like what are they supposed to improve their idol reps when you said that they dont need to be idols? their streaming reps when right from the start we know that they wont really focus on streaming? marketability rep? which is what cover is doing now by selling brand of the chuuba?

>> No.45372177

>>45372069
Nothing Axel can do when the music bombs for being Stars and the time takes to make a cover. At this point, if you want a singer Tempus, look at Hakka.

>> No.45372181

>>45371891
Why? There doesn't seem to be any indication that they can grow any further in Japan, Hololive's ceilings and floors have fluctuated in the same range for an entire year. More JP members are not going to miraculously attract a non-JP audience for more growth either because the vtuber market is more fractured by region than ever. All a new JP gen would do is further split and congest the current audience.

>> No.45372205

>>45372161
7 and a half hours

>> No.45372215

>>45372161
midnight eastern, right after holospy

>> No.45372223

>>45372205
thanks anon

>> No.45372226

>>45372181
Woah this writing style, I have seen it before

>> No.45372235

>>45363258
Shark Cunny is there
Will BTFO the streamer awards on twitter engagement.

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>> No.45372262

>>45372069
>if she played her cards right she could've become a genuine international star.
She already is an international star. To get any higher than that
>and I say this without ANY hint of exaggeration
she would have to such a full mile of LA song producers dick (like Kei$ha, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and other international superstars had before her).
She could do that even today if she wanted, with her NotMori persona.
A couple of (mutilated for religious reasons) dicks sucked and they would get her top open for Lil Nas X or whoever the colored minstrel of the day is (I don't really follow that scene).

But I don't think that's her thing, so being a regular international star with Holo will have to suffice

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